64GB of DDR5 at 6200 CL26 with a Ryzen 9 7950X
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KingBank labels their RAM with the die name. I'm in love. 😂
While every other brand basically hides this information as much as they can and charges their customer for cosmetic meaningless things, KingBank doesn't do any of that and offers their RAM with actual chip information all the while being lowest on price. Fucking legend.
All Hail the King 🤴
Thanks for loving it! We want you to know what we're using so you can be sure which model could be your best fit, like if you're an oc enthusiast, A-Die should be a better pick, and otherwise, m-die or b-die is enough for your daily work boost~
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@@KingBankOfficial b650e-e works flawesly on newest bios 6400CL28 easily on 1.5V ! stable flck 2200
Arctic gets so much coverage on this channel with that first gen Liquid Freezer AIO, would be nice of them to notice and send over some new gear!
Really needed this dual rank timings. Thank you.
Nice! I have been waiting for dual rank content!
Hey BZ, very interesting observations in this video! Keep on uploading more YT content to keep us in the know!🎉😮😊
Friggin' amazing video! I've been hoping you'd post a video overclocking dual rank Hynix A Die 2x32GB kit with a 7950X. What fan are you using and how do you go about mounting a fan to the ram kit? I'd love to have a fan directly on mine as well but I'm not sure how to go about doing so. As always, thank you!
Your settings worked awesomely on MSI Tomahawk B650, thank you.
Nice one mate!
I'm playing around with VDDIO & VDDQ a bit more. What's the benefit other than temps to lowering them so much? As I'm testing now, it seems to be better when I follow BZ & have them matching. Any input?
I've had WHEA 17s on Zen4 after enabling Advanced Error Reporting in bios on an Asrock board. I'm not sure if they are FCLK related tho, because i've only had them at like 102BCLK. Also tried unstable FCLK and they didn't appear, but maybe i didn't test enough idk.
Does this insight mostly apply to trusty M-die Kits at 6200? ( higher trfc i know) what about typical voltages? maybe final performance comparison video of both types of kits would be great:)
Hi. Building on asus x670 hero and a 7950x3d and 2*32 corsair titanium CMP64GX5M2B6000Z30. Will this work? Also What timings for a ok level (not too hot)
Adjusted my own RAM timings and voltages based on yours and got my Kingstons to 6400 30/38/38/28
Hello. Will this work on 7500F and 6000 MHz 32 CL (2x16) 32 GB XMP ram?
Gonna make a desktop woth x670e-i and 7950x3d. I picked 2x32gb 64gb kingston fury beast 6400mhz cl32 woth amd expo and intel expo, with a safe profile of 6000mhz cl30 to run at the sweet spot if 6400 wont work as many says, both at 1.4v. they should be hynix a-die. At this point i'm wondering if they will work at 6400MHz CL26 as yours?
Buildzoid, do you ever load up the infinity fabric when doing ram stability testing?
I find that with a high fclk (2100 to 2133) I am stable with prime95 (memory controller stress) and karhu. But then when I load up the infinity fabric by running furmark on my 4090 I start to get errors.
Now I do stability testing with and without IF loading.
furmark wont load the IF. More likely that electrical noise being generated on the card is getting picked up on the board somewhere.
@@NVMDSTEvil the CPU cores need to go through the IO die to talk to pcie devices.
So a GPU stress test would add additional data on the IF that would need to be shared with the RAM stress test.
PCIE and RAM traces need to be well shielded, noise doesn’t seem plausible or Intel would have similar issues.
@@plushquasar653on Ryzen 5000 running folding@home while doing linpack was the fastest way to get the infinity fabric to hate me.
@@twanheijkoop6753 thanks for the tip!
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking With my B650 Aorus Pro AX with 6400mhz A die, no matter what settings I use, if I change the Vcore SOC on the main page, I was never any to get 6400mhz to work. After using the AMD OC page I was able to have way more freedom with OC'Ing my ram. 6400 1:1 & 8000 1:2m
would it be too complicated for you 6to post your videos at 1440p?! it would be very much appreciated
hey there ACO.... if your still checking the commends on this video.. i have a quick question for ya.
Im making a bit of a 'upgrade/rebuild' on my current PC that i both game on and stream on (single-pc streamer/gamer). Ive been running an old i9 7900x for years and its served me well (and still is running strong) though its showing its age...
Soooo i decided to update and am trying to future-proof myself as much as possible.
That said, im getting:
Ryzen 9 7950x
ASRock x670e Steel Legend MB
And a set of 2x 32GB 6600 Dominator Titanium's from Corsair. CMP64GX5M2X6600C32W's to be exact.
I know people have mentioned (and you mentioned it here as well (your video was actually a recommendation to people by someone in the comments on another channel), that current Ryzen chips seem to hate going much faster than 6400. The difference in the 'cost' between the 6000 and 6600 Dominators is only like... 30$ at max?... So im deciding to go ahead and get the 6600's and just 'dial down' the Speed of the sticks down to 6400 and see if that makes the build stable, that way, as time goes on, if they manage to make the BIOS updates become stable enough to run past 6400.. i'll already have the RAM for it.
Only thing is, its been ages since ive messed with memory timings and such, and ive never actually 'intentionally slowed down' RAM before.
Is it as simple as setting up the EXPO 1 profile, then simply telling it to only run at 6200/6400 instead of its 6600 its listed as being able to do?
Or do i need to also give myself a crash-course in how to set up the timings (tightening the timings as you called it) as well?
Hynix A Die 2x32GB Dual Rank can do tRP 30 at 6200 and 6400 for me, with a Kingston Fury kit and 1.4 volts. So your bad tRP findings are definitely not related to Hynix dual rank at least. Maybe it's related to motherboard.
Can I have these results with my 7800X3D ?
So, over 6000mt/s would you still recommend a-die, is it still the same theory that m-die will get tighter timings are around there?
M die has now been seen as worse with more recent information on OC, when BZ made that video his kits of A die were bad bins / early modules but now A die is overall better except like 1 maybe 2 sub timings which it just needs a bit more voltage for
That A die must be pretty bad though as far as A die goes, 6400/CL32 at 1.4V is your bog standard Hynix M die config.
Is this working for 7950X3D? :o
whats better to lower on ddr4 timing trcdwe or trfc ?
trfc
but as always..."it depends..."
Ive been trying out running 6400 CL26 with 1.7 VDD, havent had time to test lower voltages but 6600 CL28 also works with 1.7 so maybe 6000 CL24 might maybe work
on this kingbanks ? GDM disabled ? i cant disable this option so far no matter what i change in bios
@@Malklaw naw this was on a gskill kit, but I ended up getting a teamgroup kit that was way better for thermals
@@pwrcowfeeder yup i get it my kingston were much colder than this kingbanks and gskills are hot from what i saw too like u said...
anyway i am happy with this kingbanks timings like in the video except trp 30 53.9 54.1 NS aida64 so nothing bad for 64 gb and everithing on 1.41V and max temps 42C
only gdm makes me wonder why its not booting ....
@@Malklawwhat’s your fclk & ram frequency ?
@@silfrido1768 2200 flck 6200 max tuned gdm on 54ns Aida
6400 gdm on is possible but probably higher voltage and worse timmings
This video earned my subscription. I have been watching this channel since quite a while by now (possibly more than a year) but I could not find much practical use of it. When Hardware Unboxed published its video about AM5 RAM scaling using BZ's advice I tried those but it was not successful. That was disappointing because I could run the 6400 MT/s CL32 XMP profile of my Corsair Vengeance kit in 1:1 mode at 2067 FCLK, thus I believe the IMC of my R5 7600 (non X) is pretty good.
Now, with the hints about single rank, slightly loosening tCL (at this point all of us should know BZ's rant about CAS latency does not matter, right? 😉) and tRCD I managed to get stable tuning.
I am really happy with it. 🤩
Im so frustrated i got a 7800x3d with asus 650e-i mobo and cant get my 64 gb cl30 6000 mhz corsair to run stable.
I tried expo 1 and 2 .
I get freezes and sometimes even crashes during browsing never during intensive work loads. I turned on memory context restore. And turned of fast boot now i got clean fast stable boots but just idling and light browsing is still a problem
. My fabric runs at about 2900 it seems to not really like 3000. Is it possible i got a faulty cpu ?
I try to o/c 128GB (4x32) which is a difficult setup. So far got stable 4200@1.26V (Vdd,Vddq). CAS auto-increased to 36 from 30 @ 3600. The memory is 1.1v Adata AD5U560032G-S, dogmother's brand of chips. Runs cold (no heat). Strangely, @1.3V it won't POST, probably because I kept in sync all mem voltages and CPU Vdd_IO. MB: MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi.
RAM OC/Fine tunning depeds 80% on motherboard and 20% on chip lottery on the ram, right ?
more like the reverse
@@Neucher thanks for the response
9:44 my 64GB A die kit can do tRP of 36 at 6200 with just 1.4V. Can’t remember if I experimented with lower tRP at 6200 but it can do tRP of 28 at 6000.
I have my 2x48gb at tRP 40 and it doesn't crash.
I got 35 stable on this kit exacly 6200cl28 1.415v with even better subtimmings but anything past 6200+ or disabling gdm is not possible at resonable voltages and temps but anyway 53-54NS in Aida is really głód i think
@@Malklawwhat’s your value for fclk ?
@@silfrido1768 2200 1.15 SoC but it depends jest from CPU RAM has nothing to do with that
@@Malklaw oddly enough 2200 can post with a low vsoc on my setup but I’m not sure if my 6200 would work.
i have 6200 CL26-35-31-30-61 stable with fclk at 2100. Furthest i can go is 2167 but latency is worse by 1.1ns after 2100. for what ever reason you get lower latency when going 1 tick above the 3:1 ratio. you drop 1.1ns. and if you set nitro to 1/2/1 then that’s another .4ns drop.
you think I’d be able to post with 1.15 @ 2200 ? lol
My memory sometimes not showing in different software like cpu-z, hwinfo64 etc. It works fine, no errors. Another problem, reboot or shutting down sometimes doesn't work - PC hangs at code 44. Any ideas?
Asus rog strix b650e-e MB
7800x3D
16x2 Team Group t-create expert Hynix A-die
That usually happens due to software conflict, I remember I had shutdown issues with icue installed, uninstalled and all fine now. Also sometimes cpu-z gets stuck or shows nothing when I open it at the same time with ryzen master.
@@ymnPRhmeDWxX I have Asus aura and lconnect 3. Will try to delete them
Why is it that some mobos (specifically B650 Creator and X670 Tachyon) are able to push RAM to 7200+ (support page proved QVL) with 8XXXG CPUs? According to Buildzoid, my 7900X should only get to 6200 at best due to the chip on the CPU being a lottery. Am I missing something?
To get to those higer speeds you need to run in uck/2 mode which looses you a ton of performance making higher speeds not worth it unless you can go to 8000+
Have you found out why in the past 2033MHz for Infinity Fabric was better?
My 2X 16GB DDR5 A-Die
tRC: 34 (32 no post) ASUS has presets tRC: 38
R7 7800X3D
ASUS ROG Strix X670E-F
6200MT 28 36 32 30 / 2200FCLK
VDD: 1.45v VDDQ/IO: 1.30v VSOC: 1.24v
Aida64 latency:
6200 CL28: 57.2ns
6200 CL26: 56.7ns
Can run 6200 cl26 at VDD: 1.55v
looks like it's low bin a die kit. 4800 mhz at jedec mostly m-die. A-die - 5600.
18:55 from my experience 2067 @ 6200 and 2133 @ 6400 offer the best latency. This isn’t true on 6000, however, where a higher fclk always reduces latency.
2200 at 6200 in my testing wins both PyPrime and Ycruncher. AIDA is a terrible benchmark and should not be used.
Hows that Ram Cooler mounted ?
gravity
😂😂😂@@TheBackyardChemist
@@zayetsvolk201 😂😂
horizontal test bench. So the fan just sits on top of the memory sticks.
Who the f*ck needs sag on the most expensive component.
unlike you, in my case trp goes down from 39 to 29 steadily, while trcd from 36 to a higher value of 37, twtrl from 16 I have 12. trdwr from 16 I have 14. twrrd from 4 I have 2
quite good results especially at 1.41V, but the 6400+ is uncontrollable without high voltage and temperature 1.6V+ and 52-57 C
maybe someone have this kit and this information will be useful.
oh for the record latency in aida almost same in everyt test so its stable as rock at 54.2 54,3 NS really good score but for full happines i wanted this at 6400 mhz hah
Do 256GB next!
Sorry, I gonna say Kingbank sounds like a knockoff brand of Kingston, but A-die is A-die.
Kingbank is Kingbank,Kingbank is good and the price is also very favorable
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