I want to share three builds for £250, £500 and £750 that will suit most users looking at cracking into #unraid and #TrueNAS on a budget! Find out more in the video here - ua-cam.com/video/Gb-jM2hxczw/v-deo.html and the article here - nascompares.com/2023/09/08/top-jonsbo-n2-nas-builds-for-250-500-750-and-1000/ Have an excellent weekend!
30:47 For the sake of my sanity I've sworn I'd never again use any PSU that is not either a Seasonic, Silverstone, Corsair or EVGA. The juice of saving a few dimes is not worth the inevitable squeeze.
@nascompares Great video, I love DIY NAS solutions, rocking a 20-bay Silverstone with 150TB myself - I'm not normally a nitpicker, but I don't want people to get the wrong idea about the cool little Jonsbo case. You state "the N2 does utilise different connectors [...] than those traditionally found on your motherboard" I'll give you some degree of free pass on this if you were intending to say "than those found on this motherboard" and had a slip of the tongue. However, I'm reasonably confident in saying that Jonsbo are using the industry standard USB-3-FP header (wide black one) which has been around for over 10 years now as well as the industry standard USB-C-FP header (the one that looks like a really wide H --> l--------l) Both of these are commonly found on most modern socketed CPU ITX boards. I suspect they are missing from the board you have due to not being included in 'cost saver' level mobile platforms (Celeron and Pentium being below the 'Core' series and all) Another minor note (more for the viewers) would be that if you are going to use a converter to make them work with your motherboard you will naturally limit their transmission speed to whatever they are converted to - in this case, they would be getting converted to the positively antique USB2-FP header.
I subscribed when there were only a couple thousand subs. I thought to myself that this channel would never break 10K because NAS is such a small market. But here you are, 100K. Congrats!
Man I would have thought the same, but tbh since 3y ago I did not even know what a NAS was, then I got a DS220j and it completely changed the way I handle my files, it is worlds apart compared to what a normal cloud subscription can do. This little (and arguably cheap) devices have so much to offer even for home users and students such as myself. I hope to see this community grow
This video is really well done. I have been trying to give an answer to this question for four years now. The problem is summarized at the end of the video. My time costs much more than what I save by building it myself "from scratch". But on the other hand I am too stingy , and I like to build things myself. Frustration.
Just a couple notes on this as I have the same case. First if you did NOT use the angled sata cables on the backplane they won't warranty the case. Second I found a flat dual molex adapter that saved me even more room. Between the angled sata cables (same slim blue your using with 90 degree one end), and the molex adapter I was able to replace that loud inefficient 15mm fan with the standard 25mm one. Also replaced those grates on both side with basic wire grills. Both those things got me better air flow as well as less noise.
“Nas is like” for the ringtone is just sublime! 😂 Congratulations on 100K subs! This channel guided me on HDD choices for my Jonsbo N1 NAS. Keep up the great work!
One recomendation I would make is using a way better power supply like an FSP or Sparkle to enhance the reliability and stability of the build (start with a good foundation) and to turn the power supply around so the vents allow the power supply to suck in cool air and the rear to exit the heat. Most newer motherboard do use the USB3 connectors provided by Jonsbo. The rest of the video is great. Congratulations to your subscriptions! Dr. Dave
@@wyattarich Well I do not know how your basing your opinion (rated power maybe?) but I have been in the industry for 35 years and used Sparkle and FSP in an industrial environment and they have been very reliable (some machines working continously for 7 to 10 years). They are the manufacturer for many good names including Antec, Thermaltake, OCZ, Silverstone and Zalman and probably many others. When you open them up they generally use big heat sinks and quality fans and the switching transformers use larger than average wire. The problem with the power supply industry is what a power supply is rated at and what it will deliver and deliver over heat extremes. If you look at just the difference in weight between the 2 power supplies (2 pounds versus 2.7 pounds which is probably mostly heat sink) should give you somewhat of an idea. I am not saying that Sparkle and FSP are the best power supplies on the market but in general for the price you get a conservative rated power supply that will deliver what they say it will, deliver that power over wide range of temperatures and will last a long time. I get what the UA-camr was trying to do is build for a particular price but since it's for storing your data being conservative using a good power supply to start with is important. In otherwards go with a cheaper case or just say the build cost more.
@@nascomparesI had a computer power supply blow up about 2 weeks ago. I found a deep fried insect that was walking across the circuit board. I've ordered a 1 meter roll of silk screen fabric and decided to put filter mesh over all air vents in all my future builds and caulk all seams along the case edges. I've always gotten tired of vacuuming pet hair and dust out of my systems so it's time to add filtration and silk screen fabric is the finest I could find without restricting airflow. It's fall now and seems like all the bugs are looking for warmth and I'm going bonkers without my computer until I get a new power supply and hope it didn't spike anything else in the system.
Congrats on 100k subs! I also built a NAS/HTPC (with TrueNAS) in this case recently. For the most part, I love it and would absolutely recommend it for DIY NAS/HTPC builds. Regarding the not-so-quiet case fan: if your motherboard has an extra fan header, connect the fan to that instead of the drive backplane. The backplane has no speed control and runs it at 100% speed 100% of the time. But hooked into the motherboard you can set the speed in the system's BIOS. Mine now runs very quietly while still keeping the drives at 30-45°C (depending on load). My only gripes with the case are: 1/ I wish the shank (the unthreaded part) of the bolts for the drive track grommets were longer so that they could be screwed in tightly. 2/ Why is the dust-catching mesh only on the side grills of the motherboard section but not on the top grill? It should be the opposite since the top is where most air intake will be happening and the sides would be exhaust (or they could have put mesh on all the grills). I removed the mesh from the sides of the motherboard area and hot-glued a mesh to the top. 3/ Too many different bolt types for the exterior. One part has Phillips thumbscrews, another has small hex flat head bolts, another has Phillips truss head bolts, and still another uses the standard Phillips hex head case bolts. If those hex flat head bolts were Phillips instead, the whole case could be managed with a single Phillips screwdriver. And the truss head bolts could have just been standard case bolts.
@@mrtechie6810Air convection at computer temperatures is so weak that a gentle wave of your hand can overwhelm it. It's not something to worry about unless you're planning a passively cooled build.
I do not yet have my first NAS. Even so, to my mind, these videos are informative, helpful and entertaining . Well done and Much appreciated. 100K well deserved.
UI've built Jonsbo N2 nas a couple of months ago. It is important to order the angular SATA cables. I also advise 65mm cpu fan. I've also decided to mount psu with fan facing to the outside of the case. Front connectors for usb c and usb3 were matching these found in MSI Edge z790, so I had no issues mentioned in vid at 34:00
Thank YOU for being insanely generous man. Massively appreciate the donation man. You could have just trusted the UA-cam ads to pay the bills and carried on, but NO, you went the extra mile! Seriously, I'll be impressed if this video makes $100 in a year...staggered in fact. So, it was always going to be a net loss for me and Ed to go ahead and buy the components..but it's a passion thing. Always has been, always will be. I say this because we are human and from time to time, the motivation to attack some projects might be less than it could be (that's life). But when people donate overtly in the way that you have done, it makes us REALLY pleased/proud of what we have made and I really want to thank you for appreciating it and supporting us. YOU are brilliant!
Quick follow up, especially for you and 3 others man - ua-cam.com/channels/FyP17HoU-vpxhIpGXnXx2g.htmlcommunity?lb=UgkxeuXgwHhXRYGo3Lq1dUE5KyfkpxwODY6s
Great video. A few notes though: * the metal thing you call "backplane" is actually called "i/o shield". There's a backplane on this case though and that's the green board on the drive bay where you connect your HDDs * truenas would've worked, although it'd have complained about not enough memory. it would've probably been fine though, ZFS arc cache is not strictly necessary and for a home NAS 2GB is probably plenty * never, ever cheap out on the PSU! Spend a little extra for a good brand with better reliability and power efficiency And congrats on 100k subscribers mate.
congrats on the 100k I can't believe you don't have more. You've been around for a long time and have helped tons of people me included. Thank you for all you do.
Thank you so much for this detailed video. I used it for my own Jonsbo N2 build and it was so helpful with the step-by-step instructions and guidance on the gotchas. It saved me so much time to pre-plan. Excellent video!
Congratulations mate. I'm a recent subscriber, and I don't watch every video (I mainly skip the ones on low-end NAS's like the Synology 225X or whatever, as I know I'll never get those), but you've provided great information and even when I feel I have a pretty different lean on a lot of things, I enjoy it nonetheless. And here I was expecting the 100K special would be Robbie embarking on The Great Seagull Massacre of 2023. Maybe an idea for 200K!
I've built many computers over the years. For me, assembling the hardware is fairly easy, configuring the software/OS is what will be a challenge for me. I have two old synology NASes and they're ok. I'm looking to upgrade, so having the option to build a new NAS is a good thing to have. Knowing me, I probably won't build because the software seems like something I would have to invest time into learning (and I don't have the time unfortunately). The detailed guide on the website is really good and I will be bookmarking it in case I change my mind.
Have a look at Spaceinvader One on YT, he has a lot of tutorials on Unraid, and it is actually quite user friendly. I was in your situation about a year ago and decided to go for something else than Synology, and I'm very happy I did. I would have outgrown the Synology system I could have bought for the same money as my current Unraid system, and I get the benefit of having enough compute power to run a desktop as a VM plus a ton of docker applications. If I want to try something new, I just spin up a new VM Basically my Unraid is future proof for the next many year to come where the Synology XS system I could have bought, would be outdated already (especially with the VM's in mind)
Thaks a lot for this! It made building my N2 NAS a breeze. Different motherboard, different power supply, but this video is an excellent resource in any case.
Beautiful build, nicely done, and I love the "on the cheap" side of things (so much, must be the Scottish in me 😁) Makes me want to do this rather than get another Synology. I have the skills, but Synology just made things so "easy" that I got lazy. Thanks for the video and congrats on 100K! Here's to the next 900K 🥳
Pretty Nice Video of this build! But the most important question i have is how high is the power consumption ? Is it the same like the Qnap / Synology or is the power consumption much higher because Qnap / Synology did some optimization of their used components ?
Congratulation on 100K subscribers. Keep it up and thank you for sharing quality contents and mainly your passion to share unbiased info with us! Fantastic job! 😊👍
@@nascompares how did you put tforce a4440 in the ps5 ? And use elecgear heatsink ? The a4440 has a graphene heat spreader did you just put that in and on top the elecgear heatsink ?
Greetings from Germany. I also discovered your channel a few months ago and subscribed. Congratulations on 100k subscribers. I like to watch your channel and it has also helped me in the decision which NAS I buy and then landed on the Synology DS 920+. Self-build is no longer an option for me. I used to assemble my PC myself, but that's long gone. The professionals can still better assemble a system than me and it's enough for me if I then only perform the one or other upgrade.
Thank you for your kind words and (forgive the potential xenophobia) it genuinely always makes me pleased when a German comments on my vids, as I consider the Germans easily among the most IT aware nationalities in the world! The general standard of tech knowledge I've observed when visiting DE (both in end users and right the way down to the detail in tech advertising) is top tier! Thank you for your kind words!
"Sorry Captain Planet" you had a few clever comments. I have a Synology DS213 that I now realize is 10 years old but it's all I need with 2 1TB WD Red drives in hybrid. If I had the need I'd be into building my own.
Great video! I’d love you to do a higher spec version of this video and see what you can put together on a £1000 budget. Even if it’s just a demo of what components you’d put together on that budget without the actual build! Would be great!
@@Qibbles awesome. I’m looking at going with a fractal design define 7 XL so that I can continue to expand in the future. With UNRAID now offering ZFS and the ability to add vdevs to the pool it seems like the perfect high performance solution for video editing directly from it and running Plex etc.
@@nascomparesthe matx board with intel mobile 12th gen that craft computing has been raving about might be a good start and igpu for transcoding is promising
Thank you. I'd love to see the next steps: actually connecting the box to the internet and your in-house network and configuring the system to function as intended. Good job!
Congratulations on the 100K it is quite an accomplishment. Brilliant video. Fantastic presentation. I have a big Unraid system featuring a Xeon E3 with 16 bays. but I do EVERTHIING on this. I have never regretted building my own NAS. I spent way more than 350 quid but that build, I might build one myself to have as a secondary NAS to play with. I loved your video so much I subscribed. How you presented your information was a lot of fun. I am always watching SpaceInvader One and love his channel as well.
Hey - nice job here. There is also the value of the learning that is in depth - you can also upgrade individual components to go with as you need. The cost of upgrading a turn key is quite a bit larger - you have about the same 2x factor I think. Interesting - worth the hour invested to watch here! And congratulations!
Thanks for the great info. I have just built my home made NAS based on this tutorial with Unraid and it is spinning away happily on my table. I deviated slightly by going with the Node 304 case which I purchased locally from eBuyer for £74 delivered and the same board with 4 GB memory and the 128 GB NVME from Amazon for £151. With the saving I also added a 10 Gbe PCI card from Ali Express for £71 and a Hisource 4 port 2.5 Gbe + 2 10 Gbe uplink ports for for £29 from Ali Express I have to admit that getting the 10 Gbe link working with Unraid (!***!) was a bit stressful, but everything now works as it should. Onwards and upwards and thanks again.
Robbie, thanks a lot for doing this! I have a couple of questions: (#1) About 23:18 you stacked up all the PSU wires (of the DOA PSU) behind the fan intake guard. Are you concerned about the reduced airflow from the cabling obstruction, and if not, why not? (#2) The RMA PSU came without cables, how did you handle that? One last note, your closing comments on being time rich-money poor and the expertise needed to do all of this are GREAT! So many people just forget about all of that and it's really important to remember. Thanks again for another very informative video.
Good Qs. 1, the cables from the first PSU were funneled at the top of the fan inlet, so although they were obstructing some of the fan, it was maybe 10-15% tops. 2, Regarding PSU #2, it did arrive with cables and I attached them ina similar style/placement, though they did not arrive with mesh covers. Hope that clarifies it bud
Congratulations on 100K I have been interested in building my own NAS and have been watching your channel for some time now. Tons of information you guys are doing a great job!
Fun! Wish I had build it like this myself last year, but that motherboard didn't exist back then. Man, what a beautiful case. Mine is huge. Just as you've described, both NAS solutions have their ups and downs. I like both. My Asustor has been nice to me. The ones I built are used to back it up.
I just built one for my friend, N6005 + 16 RAM + H6 case + 1 TB NVME SSD + 250W PSU + Unraid Plus, and spent nearly £330. Of course, I was building this while in China, so the shipping cost is way lower, but spent another £25 mailing it to UK.
This is the spec that I am looking at, what is it like and how is it's 4k playback? I have a spare fractal Design Node 304 case and a 450w SFF sat doing nothing... Hopefully waiting for this board?
@@jonh6671 If you are not doing HDR tone mapping, it won't break a sweat with 4K. But I would suggest going with n100 or even Pentium 8505, because I built this almost a year ago, and it's a bit outdated.
@@jonh6671 Sure, for this type of board（n6005, n6412, n100 or n300）, mainly just check if it has enough ports for your needs since you can't ask much from their performance.
I can afford to buy a branded NAS, but I prefer to go through similar to what you see in this video, not because I want to appear tech savvy, but because of the drinking involved during and after the build. I especially relish the heavy drinking involved when it fails and I have no one to blame but myself. Cheers! 😂😂
@@nascompares I think adapter cards are needed from a NAS perspective because motherboards max out at only 4 NVME slots. But that adds complexity and maintenance work later on.
Helpful hints: 1) first boot the motherboard outside of the case. If it is dead you don't want to be wasting time installing it and routing cables 2) never use a cheap USB drive. Use a Samsung Fit or Bar USB Drive. You can do a search for the guy who tested them out and they beat out the rest. I am not sure but I think you can clone the USB. If so get two so when the first one dies you are not scambling looking for configurations. 3) update the BIOS. If the board dies it can be RMA'ed. 4) Use the Preclear tool in Unraid on the hard drives before using them. Side note, if you want a really nice NAS case SuperMirco offers a 4 bay one. It is not cheap but it will last and also keep your drives cool. best of luck.
It’s really crazy how budget you can go! ATM I’m looking at a total budget of 200usd for a NAS with 16TBs of storage in a raid 6 config no idea how I did it but it’s an amazing thing crazy utility.
Congrats! You've read my thoughts with this DIY NAS. But I had some doubts about noise level of each part (PSU fan, motherboard fan, etc.), then got tired of reading reviews for each potential part of this build... Finaly, I've bought terramaster and cleaned up my shopping cart at Ali. )))
No, thank you for the fantastic video. Hope you hit 200k soon you guys deserve it. Really appreciate the thorough details My one tip would be to invest in a build mat for that poor old scratched table, helps dampen noise, stops things rolling, can be anti static or have a brand logo.
I'm currently weighing up building a NAS, with the cost of electric just wondering how the power consumption at idle and in use, compares to the likes of Synology, have you done any tests for these recent builds for power consumption? If so could someone point me in the right direction@@nascompares
Sorry mate. Tbh I wanted thia vid live last weekend JUST as we crossed the 100K line...but the PSU failure was Friday and ended up delaying things. Fair play to the N2 case... One of the nicest 'multiuse' server tower cases I have ever seen. Wasn't a big fan of the N1 and tunneled chassis packing, but this one has had some serious forward planning for cable management and component placement. That said, not a big fan of the SATA bay rubber straps.aybe they reduce vibration and/or noise a bit...bit they also feel like they could snap pretty easy on a hot swap in a hurry.
@@nascompares Yeah, agree with the rubber straps - although I'm hoping I won't need to remove drives too frequently! I was tempted by the N1, but I wanted to use the NAS a home server - just wanted a little extra cooling, which it looks like the N2 had. suprised to see how easy it was to build it, too. (although I've gone mainstream with an i5-12400 for a ittle more ooomph.)
Mate! If I had been making a video about making affordable powerhouse builds...THAT or a Ryzen would have been choice #1. Even toying with a new build altogether for another vid (ie custom build vs £2K Syn/QNAP NAS), but it felt like more of a challenge for this particular vid to go 'as low as possible, but emulate the turnkey options). Pretty sure Ed @spaceinvaderone is looking at this build like it's some kind of nursery level time waste lol
Hmm way less money then i thought. Built my own stuff sense my early teens but never looked in to NAS. Now days whit all the data we have on our hands this might be a good time to start my first NAS project. Grats on 100k and thanks for the info.
Another great video, and congrats on the 100K subs. You're gonna have to do A LOT more content with this new bad boy. Detailed setup, apps, containers etc. Can't wait for more!!!
I *loved* this build video. So much detail, great explanation, and it is clearly a done with love for this topic. I'd be interested in a similar build video if you can find a low-cost build with drive trays rather than those off rubber-pull attachments.
I have just built a TopTon board (Same version) with a Jonsbo case. One note is you can actually fit that board out with 64Gb Mem so Truenas has plenty of spare capacity. I also spec'd out a lot better power supply just for the peace of mind. Wish you had done this review earlier as I would have gone with the case you had.
New to your channel. NASCompares and you've never built a NAS from scratch before?! You can build one better than any QNAP, Synology, etc. for less. As for the USB connectors from the case. They match EXACTLY what they are since one is USB 3.0 and the other is USB-C 3.2. There is nothing non-standard about them. The issue is your motherboard only has USB 2.0.
Brilliant video! This is the best tutorial and guide I've seen for building a fully-functional, do-it-yourself NAS. I especially appreciated the step-by-step details, and your objective, brand and device-specific recommendations, evaluations, and critiques of each of the components. The Unraid solution allowing the use of such an enormous variety and size of SATA disk drives is likewise amazing. You have motivated me to take this on myself. Thank you! Now subscribed.
What a fantastic guide! I THANK YOU! I've assembled PC last time probably 35 years ago - not many things have changed since then I can see. Btw why did you go with 5105 rather than 6005? No big price difference there... You have kept the t-shirt but you have changed the watch between the recordings - even 2 times !!! ;-)
It's not just about the time spent. It's about how much your data is worth. If you're not thinking about things like patrol reads and notifications on disk failures. Rebuild processes for the array. Those types of things... you can end up with bit rot or data loss when not noticing hardware failures.
I swear! If you donated JUST because of my watch, you sir are Brilliant! Jokes aside, thank up for supporting us and our content. The Jonsbo N3 and components for the scales up 10G build are in progress and I hope this will be put there as soon as possible. In the meantime, there IS a follow up Jonsbo N2 piece coming this Friday and likely making a weekly piece on this system/build, as we explore what it can/cannot do. It's ALOT of time and energy to commit to a project that (unlike alot of other vids) starts with me and Ed in the minus (financially)..rather than 0. That's why it's so bloody great when people donate and why...and I'm gonna repeat myself...you are bloody brilliant!
Great video, exactly what I was looking for. I would like to point out a detail that was left out about the total cost, standard low budget PSUs normally have abysmal power efficiency under light load which means that the PSU could even pull double the required wattage from the wall (so, half goes to waste because of inefficiency), over a span of 5y or more this could add up to a substantial difference in the final price. (this is based on the fact that normally a NAS comes with a 12V power supply which is designed for that type of load while a standard PSU for PCs has 3V, 5V and 12V rails and the unit normally has its peak efficiency around 50-65% load)
The price of the shipping from Aliexpress not only varies, but can make or break your budget so it should definitely not be left out. For example here are the prices as of Nov 2023: Jonsbo N2 (Aliexpress): $93 + $97 shipping to the US = $190 Jonsbo N2 (Amazon): $150 Jonsbo N2 (Newegg): $140 Jonsbo N3 (Aliexpress): $117 + $99 shipping = $216 Jonsbo N3 (Amazon): $170 Jonsbo N3 (Newegg): $162 As you can see, if you are in the US it's a no-brainer to buy the case from Amazon/Newegg as Aliexpress offers an inferior shipping experience.
Congrats! Pretty soon you can slap a shiny plaque behind you, or maybe make a NAS case out of it!. A channel I run needs just 8k to hit 100k. Man is it slow going once you start watching the subscriber count :D
Wow. another great video. Thanks so much for all the excellent content. I've been gearing up to replace my old Dell PowerEdge r510 12-HDD server. It's such a noise generator and power hog. I wonder if you could maybe do a video that focuses on daisy-chaining servers for more space. I don't want to manage multiple Unraid instances. What I'd like to do is set up one server and then attach multiple SANs as my library grows.
It is a lot more work to set up your own but it is so much more powerful and cheaper. There is no comparison really. I used a retired PC and bought a multibay drive caddy.
Would you make an episode about what's better? UnRAID or TrueNAS? What gives more possibilities? What is updated more often? And what, in general, will be a better solution?
Thanks for sharing. You've had it for at least a month now. How have the drive temperatures been? Cooling on that case seems like it might be an issue.
FINALLY...someone spotted this. I made a point of switching them constantly over the record. I have like 50+ variants, but original swapped through x9 in this video. Thank you for spotting this and making me feel better!
@@nascompares I used to wear some crazy watches. The hardest one to read time was a binary one. It displayed the hours and minutes in little light-dots. After a few months I got actually pretty good at with the binary system.
Congrats on 100K subscribers. Yeah, I can easily see 10+ hours of build time which at any reasonable hourly rate would easily add $200 to $400 dollars unless one was doing it as a learning experience and was extremely cash poor and time abundant (a student or someone laid off in a severe recession). Reminds me of the old Heath Kits for radios and other electronic devices. Even if one would do it once, would one do it twice, let alone half a dozen times? I am still puzzled by the price disparity between a laptop and a NAS. If I go to my local Target department store I can see laptops from an i7 all the way down to a Celeron. A NAS doesn't have a large screen or a keyboard why does it cost more to manufacture than a laptop? Or the disparity between a NAS and an Apple Mac Mini. A NAS is brain dead, but has lots of storage, while an Apple Mac Mini has lots of processing power, but little storage and needs a "Time Machine" (which Apple no longer manufactures) for backup. Perhaps there is a synergistic setup between an Apple Mac Mini and a NAS. But, unless there is a new Apple product announcement Docker X86 is crippled on Apple Mac Mini with Apple Silicon (M1, M2, etc) and one is dependent on a limited and aging supply of Apple Mac Minis (which are soon going to lack security upgrades).
Now THAT is a fantastically detailed comment and EXACTLY the kind of things that's a delight to read (from a storage and component enthusiast POV). Thanks bud
Heath Kits... you're showing your age. And, I'm showing mine by recognizing the name. Do you recall the magazine adverts for Heath Kits telling readers that they could build their own colour TV's ?
I'm pretty sure most current NAS systems, including Synology, QNAP, UnRaid, and TrueNAS all have software that allows them to appear as a Time Machine destination for backups for any Mac (Apple Silicon or Intel), in case you weren't aware
@@compudude Yes, you are correct. My error. I should have said Apple no longer makes TimeCapsule hardware, but you are correct Apple still has the TimeMachine software.
@@DavidM2002 My dad gifted me Volt Ohm Meter (VOM) kit which I built in 5th grade and Shortwave radio kit (with vacuum tubes) which I did not complete until 7th grade. I think I had Heathkit catalog. My dad warned me off Color TV. I was drolling over Altair Computer Kit which fortunately I did not get.
Been down both paths for 20+ years. If I want to impress my peers I build my own servers. If I want to impress my family get a Synology. Played with Unraid to make hardware pass through setups with Windows XP/98 systems and 3DFX and Creative EAX cards and its an ongoing project, fraught with many many issues. They are fun projects, but you will get to the stage that other hobbies call you and a Synology is the way to go. After all, we don't live forever and the kids will inherit them, so they need something less IT knowledge base intensive.
Synology easy to use and Hybrid file system made them my choice to implement for production back up for my wife’s UA-cam content. 1 hour max setup, can increase drives in a piecemeal fashion, system mirror when time to upgrade entire system made it an easy decision. Built many servers and NAS in the past, but don’t have the time to be full time IT Support now.
Likewise, I had all the parts and most of the skills to build one. But I didn't want to turn my data storage into a project relying upon my skills. So I bought a commercial NAS and it's worked flawlessly, knock on wood, for a decade or so. It has one job. It does it. The drives got replaced solely due to age. Seven years of no errors was pushing luck. Good excuse to find out what does happen when a blank drive gets swapped into an array. The process worked. I have never had to fuss with it, not even once. My goal was met. I have never had to pull an all nighter sweating like a pig trying to troubleshoot why my "NAS project" is down and wondering if my data is lost.
I want to share three builds for £250, £500 and £750 that will suit most users looking at cracking into #unraid and #TrueNAS on a budget! Find out more in the video here - ua-cam.com/video/Gb-jM2hxczw/v-deo.html and the article here - nascompares.com/2023/09/08/top-jonsbo-n2-nas-builds-for-250-500-750-and-1000/
Have an excellent weekend!
30:47 For the sake of my sanity I've sworn I'd never again use any PSU that is not either a Seasonic, Silverstone, Corsair or EVGA. The juice of saving a few dimes is not worth the inevitable squeeze.
@nascompares Great video, I love DIY NAS solutions, rocking a 20-bay Silverstone with 150TB myself - I'm not normally a nitpicker, but I don't want people to get the wrong idea about the cool little Jonsbo case.
You state "the N2 does utilise different connectors [...] than those traditionally found on your motherboard"
I'll give you some degree of free pass on this if you were intending to say "than those found on this motherboard" and had a slip of the tongue.
However, I'm reasonably confident in saying that Jonsbo are using the industry standard USB-3-FP header (wide black one) which has been around for over 10 years now as well as the industry standard USB-C-FP header (the one that looks like a really wide H --> l--------l)
Both of these are commonly found on most modern socketed CPU ITX boards. I suspect they are missing from the board you have due to not being included in 'cost saver' level mobile platforms (Celeron and Pentium being below the 'Core' series and all)
Another minor note (more for the viewers) would be that if you are going to use a converter to make them work with your motherboard you will naturally limit their transmission speed to whatever they are converted to - in this case, they would be getting converted to the positively antique USB2-FP header.
I subscribed when there were only a couple thousand subs. I thought to myself that this channel would never break 10K because NAS is such a small market. But here you are, 100K. Congrats!
Thanks man. I feel/felt almost exactly the same. Cheers!
Man I would have thought the same, but tbh since 3y ago I did not even know what a NAS was, then I got a DS220j and it completely changed the way I handle my files, it is worlds apart compared to what a normal cloud subscription can do. This little (and arguably cheap) devices have so much to offer even for home users and students such as myself. I hope to see this community grow
This video is really well done. I have been trying to give an answer to this question for four years now. The problem is summarized at the end of the video. My time costs much more than what I save by building it myself "from scratch". But on the other hand I am too stingy , and I like to build things myself. Frustration.
Just a couple notes on this as I have the same case. First if you did NOT use the angled sata cables on the backplane they won't warranty the case. Second I found a flat dual molex adapter that saved me even more room. Between the angled sata cables (same slim blue your using with 90 degree one end), and the molex adapter I was able to replace that loud inefficient 15mm fan with the standard 25mm one. Also replaced those grates on both side with basic wire grills. Both those things got me better air flow as well as less noise.
Do you have a link to the flat dual molex adapter?
@@jarylsim1973 I do, but youtube keeps deleting any message with even a remote hint of a link.
“Nas is like” for the ringtone is just sublime! 😂 Congratulations on 100K subs! This channel guided me on HDD choices for my Jonsbo N1 NAS. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for your fantastically minor joke on part...really worried that no one would catch that one! You legend!
One recomendation I would make is using a way better power supply like an FSP or Sparkle to enhance the reliability and stability of the build (start with a good foundation) and to turn the power supply around so the vents allow the power supply to suck in cool air and the rear to exit the heat. Most newer motherboard do use the USB3 connectors provided by Jonsbo. The rest of the video is great. Congratulations to your subscriptions! Dr. Dave
The irony of this statement is that FSP/Sparkle are both considered a generally lower quality. The point you make is correct though.
@@wyattarich Well I do not know how your basing your opinion (rated power maybe?) but I have been in the industry for 35 years and used Sparkle and FSP in an industrial environment and they have been very reliable (some machines working continously for 7 to 10 years). They are the manufacturer for many good names including Antec, Thermaltake, OCZ, Silverstone and Zalman and probably many others. When you open them up they generally use big heat sinks and quality fans and the switching transformers use larger than average wire. The problem with the power supply industry is what a power supply is rated at and what it will deliver and deliver over heat extremes. If you look at just the difference in weight between the 2 power supplies (2 pounds versus 2.7 pounds which is probably mostly heat sink) should give you somewhat of an idea. I am not saying that Sparkle and FSP are the best power supplies on the market but in general for the price you get a conservative rated power supply that will deliver what they say it will, deliver that power over wide range of temperatures and will last a long time. I get what the UA-camr was trying to do is build for a particular price but since it's for storing your data being conservative using a good power supply to start with is important. In otherwards go with a cheaper case or just say the build cost more.
X 1.5 is the correct speed to watch this.
You sound like everyone I have ever met! I think I need to just BE faster....sigh
0.50 gotta get the view time up.
😂 disagree but… my finger was tempted lol
1.25 still sound natural 😂
@@nascomparesI had a computer power supply blow up about 2 weeks ago. I found a deep fried insect that was walking across the circuit board. I've ordered a 1 meter roll of silk screen fabric and decided to put filter mesh over all air vents in all my future builds and caulk all seams along the case edges. I've always gotten tired of vacuuming pet hair and dust out of my systems so it's time to add filtration and silk screen fabric is the finest I could find without restricting airflow. It's fall now and seems like all the bugs are looking for warmth and I'm going bonkers without my computer until I get a new power supply and hope it didn't spike anything else in the system.
I've been wanting to build a NAS for months. Why has it taken this long for the algorithm to recommend this channel? - Subbed
Congrats on 100k subs! I also built a NAS/HTPC (with TrueNAS) in this case recently. For the most part, I love it and would absolutely recommend it for DIY NAS/HTPC builds.
Regarding the not-so-quiet case fan: if your motherboard has an extra fan header, connect the fan to that instead of the drive backplane. The backplane has no speed control and runs it at 100% speed 100% of the time. But hooked into the motherboard you can set the speed in the system's BIOS. Mine now runs very quietly while still keeping the drives at 30-45°C (depending on load).
My only gripes with the case are:
1/ I wish the shank (the unthreaded part) of the bolts for the drive track grommets were longer so that they could be screwed in tightly.
2/ Why is the dust-catching mesh only on the side grills of the motherboard section but not on the top grill? It should be the opposite since the top is where most air intake will be happening and the sides would be exhaust (or they could have put mesh on all the grills). I removed the mesh from the sides of the motherboard area and hot-glued a mesh to the top.
3/ Too many different bolt types for the exterior. One part has Phillips thumbscrews, another has small hex flat head bolts, another has Phillips truss head bolts, and still another uses the standard Phillips hex head case bolts. If those hex flat head bolts were Phillips instead, the whole case could be managed with a single Phillips screwdriver. And the truss head bolts could have just been standard case bolts.
Thanks for the tip.
Why would intake be from the top? That would be fighting convection!
@@mrtechie6810Air convection at computer temperatures is so weak that a gentle wave of your hand can overwhelm it. It's not something to worry about unless you're planning a passively cooled build.
I do not yet have my first NAS. Even so, to my mind, these videos are informative, helpful and entertaining . Well done and Much appreciated. 100K well deserved.
Thank you Buddy. Have fun on your NAS journey
UI've built Jonsbo N2 nas a couple of months ago. It is important to order the angular SATA cables. I also advise 65mm cpu fan.
I've also decided to mount psu with fan facing to the outside of the case.
Front connectors for usb c and usb3 were matching these found in MSI Edge z790, so I had no issues mentioned in vid at 34:00
100% fresh cool air from the side vent (which i feel is designed for this reason)
what 65 cpu fan? i have the default fan and its very noisy
Robbie & Eddie - congratulations on 100K and thank you both for the incredible NAS content!
Thank YOU for being insanely generous man. Massively appreciate the donation man. You could have just trusted the UA-cam ads to pay the bills and carried on, but NO, you went the extra mile! Seriously, I'll be impressed if this video makes $100 in a year...staggered in fact. So, it was always going to be a net loss for me and Ed to go ahead and buy the components..but it's a passion thing. Always has been, always will be. I say this because we are human and from time to time, the motivation to attack some projects might be less than it could be (that's life). But when people donate overtly in the way that you have done, it makes us REALLY pleased/proud of what we have made and I really want to thank you for appreciating it and supporting us. YOU are brilliant!
Quick follow up, especially for you and 3 others man - ua-cam.com/channels/FyP17HoU-vpxhIpGXnXx2g.htmlcommunity?lb=UgkxeuXgwHhXRYGo3Lq1dUE5KyfkpxwODY6s
@@nascompares Well done thats alot of youtube i hope eddie made a back up
Great video. A few notes though:
* the metal thing you call "backplane" is actually called "i/o shield". There's a backplane on this case though and that's the green board on the drive bay where you connect your HDDs
* truenas would've worked, although it'd have complained about not enough memory. it would've probably been fine though, ZFS arc cache is not strictly necessary and for a home NAS 2GB is probably plenty
* never, ever cheap out on the PSU! Spend a little extra for a good brand with better reliability and power efficiency
And congrats on 100k subscribers mate.
All good points. I am adding not to go cheap on USB drive to as they were not meant to be used so heavily.
I know I'm a year late, but fantastic walkthrough - inspired me to build one myself! Subbed and will dive deeper down this rabbit hole, thank you!
congrats on the 100k I can't believe you don't have more. You've been around for a long time and have helped tons of people me included. Thank you for all you do.
Thanks man for the incredibly kind words!
Thank you so much for this detailed video. I used it for my own Jonsbo N2 build and it was so helpful with the step-by-step instructions and guidance on the gotchas. It saved me so much time to pre-plan. Excellent video!
Congratulations mate. I'm a recent subscriber, and I don't watch every video (I mainly skip the ones on low-end NAS's like the Synology 225X or whatever, as I know I'll never get those), but you've provided great information and even when I feel I have a pretty different lean on a lot of things, I enjoy it nonetheless.
And here I was expecting the 100K special would be Robbie embarking on The Great Seagull Massacre of 2023. Maybe an idea for 200K!
Pfft... If I can stop the seagull noise, I'll do that for a 101K special... *polishes cricket bat*
I've built many computers over the years. For me, assembling the hardware is fairly easy, configuring the software/OS is what will be a challenge for me. I have two old synology NASes and they're ok. I'm looking to upgrade, so having the option to build a new NAS is a good thing to have. Knowing me, I probably won't build because the software seems like something I would have to invest time into learning (and I don't have the time unfortunately). The detailed guide on the website is really good and I will be bookmarking it in case I change my mind.
Have a look at Spaceinvader One on YT, he has a lot of tutorials on Unraid, and it is actually quite user friendly.
I was in your situation about a year ago and decided to go for something else than Synology, and I'm very happy I did.
I would have outgrown the Synology system I could have bought for the same money as my current Unraid system, and I get the benefit of having enough compute power to run a desktop as a VM plus a ton of docker applications. If I want to try something new, I just spin up a new VM
Basically my Unraid is future proof for the next many year to come where the Synology XS system I could have bought, would be outdated already (especially with the VM's in mind)
Thanks for the video. I watched it until the end. Skipped some during the video but watched minimum 90%. I may try this at home. 👍
Thanks for the honest feedback and comment bud
The good thing is that the fan is not at all cluttered by all those badly managed cables, and the air circulates perfectly well.
Well you got great musical taste... That NAS ringer is 🔥🔥
Really glad someone spotted that reference
Thaks a lot for this! It made building my N2 NAS a breeze. Different motherboard, different power supply, but this video is an excellent resource in any case.
Beautiful build, nicely done, and I love the "on the cheap" side of things (so much, must be the Scottish in me 😁) Makes me want to do this rather than get another Synology. I have the skills, but Synology just made things so "easy" that I got lazy. Thanks for the video and congrats on 100K! Here's to the next 900K 🥳
Pretty Nice Video of this build! But the most important question i have is how high is the power consumption ? Is it the same like the Qnap / Synology or is the power consumption much higher because Qnap / Synology did some optimization of their used components ?
Congratulation on 100K subscribers. Keep it up and thank you for sharing quality contents and mainly your passion to share unbiased info with us! Fantastic job! 😊👍
THAT is a lovely comment..you humble me sir!
@@nascompares how did you put tforce a4440 in the ps5 ? And use elecgear heatsink ? The a4440 has a graphene heat spreader did you just put that in and on top the elecgear heatsink ?
Greetings from Germany. I also discovered your channel a few months ago and subscribed. Congratulations on 100k subscribers. I like to watch your channel and it has also helped me in the decision which NAS I buy and then landed on the Synology DS 920+. Self-build is no longer an option for me. I used to assemble my PC myself, but that's long gone. The professionals can still better assemble a system than me and it's enough for me if I then only perform the one or other upgrade.
Thank you for your kind words and (forgive the potential xenophobia) it genuinely always makes me pleased when a German comments on my vids, as I consider the Germans easily among the most IT aware nationalities in the world! The general standard of tech knowledge I've observed when visiting DE (both in end users and right the way down to the detail in tech advertising) is top tier! Thank you for your kind words!
"Sorry Captain Planet" you had a few clever comments. I have a Synology DS213 that I now realize is 10 years old but it's all I need with 2 1TB WD Red drives in hybrid. If I had the need I'd be into building my own.
Great video! I’d love you to do a higher spec version of this video and see what you can put together on a £1000 budget. Even if it’s just a demo of what components you’d put together on that budget without the actual build! Would be great!
Already started speccing that up for a new vid!
I did a 12600k on a asus b760-i motherboard in a jonsbo n2 as well and it's purring along with everything i am throwing at it
@@nascompares awesome!
@@Qibbles awesome. I’m looking at going with a fractal design define 7 XL so that I can continue to expand in the future. With UNRAID now offering ZFS and the ability to add vdevs to the pool it seems like the perfect high performance solution for video editing directly from it and running Plex etc.
@@nascomparesthe matx board with intel mobile 12th gen that craft computing has been raving about might be a good start and igpu for transcoding is promising
Thank you. I'd love to see the next steps: actually connecting the box to the internet and your in-house network and configuring the system to function as intended. Good job!
@35:00 - I love the very cool special effects in your video.
Congratulations on the 100K it is quite an accomplishment. Brilliant video. Fantastic presentation. I have a big Unraid system featuring a Xeon E3 with 16 bays. but I do EVERTHIING on this. I have never regretted building my own NAS. I spent way more than 350 quid but that build, I might build one myself to have as a secondary NAS to play with. I loved your video so much I subscribed. How you presented your information was a lot of fun. I am always watching SpaceInvader One and love his channel as well.
Hey - nice job here. There is also the value of the learning that is in depth - you can also upgrade individual components to go with as you need. The cost of upgrading a turn key is quite a bit larger - you have about the same 2x factor I think. Interesting - worth the hour invested to watch here!
And congratulations!
Thanks for the great info.
I have just built my home made NAS based on this tutorial with Unraid and it is spinning away happily on my table.
I deviated slightly by going with the Node 304 case which I purchased locally from eBuyer for £74 delivered and the same board with 4 GB memory and the 128 GB NVME from Amazon for £151. With the saving I also added a 10 Gbe PCI card from Ali Express for £71 and a Hisource 4 port 2.5 Gbe + 2 10 Gbe uplink ports for for £29 from Ali Express
I have to admit that getting the 10 Gbe link working with Unraid (!***!) was a bit stressful, but everything now works as it should.
Onwards and upwards and thanks again.
Thanks for the kind words man! Genuinely appreciate it
How many hard drives were you able to use with the 304? And are you using the same psu?
That front USB3 is standard, it's just not included on the board you chose.
Robbie, thanks a lot for doing this! I have a couple of questions: (#1) About 23:18 you stacked up all the PSU wires (of the DOA PSU) behind the fan intake guard. Are you concerned about the reduced airflow from the cabling obstruction, and if not, why not? (#2) The RMA PSU came without cables, how did you handle that? One last note, your closing comments on being time rich-money poor and the expertise needed to do all of this are GREAT! So many people just forget about all of that and it's really important to remember. Thanks again for another very informative video.
Good Qs. 1, the cables from the first PSU were funneled at the top of the fan inlet, so although they were obstructing some of the fan, it was maybe 10-15% tops. 2, Regarding PSU #2, it did arrive with cables and I attached them ina similar style/placement, though they did not arrive with mesh covers. Hope that clarifies it bud
Congratulations on 100K I have been interested in building my own NAS and have been watching your channel for some time now. Tons of information you guys are doing a great job!
Hope you also like the vid from an hour ago - ua-cam.com/video/Gb-jM2hxczw/v-deo.html
Fun! Wish I had build it like this myself last year, but that motherboard didn't exist back then. Man, what a beautiful case. Mine is huge.
Just as you've described, both NAS solutions have their ups and downs. I like both. My Asustor has been nice to me. The ones I built are used to back it up.
Lovely summary and bang on point! Cheers for your input mate
Nice set up ... both the intro and the target NAS Jonsbo N2 build idea ;-)
Thanks man. Genuinely appreciate your kind words
I just built one for my friend, N6005 + 16 RAM + H6 case + 1 TB NVME SSD + 250W PSU + Unraid Plus, and spent nearly £330.
Of course, I was building this while in China, so the shipping cost is way lower, but spent another £25 mailing it to UK.
This is the spec that I am looking at, what is it like and how is it's 4k playback?
I have a spare fractal Design Node 304 case and a 450w SFF sat doing nothing...
Hopefully waiting for this board?
@@jonh6671 If you are not doing HDR tone mapping, it won't break a sweat with 4K.
But I would suggest going with n100 or even Pentium 8505, because I built this almost a year ago, and it's a bit outdated.
@@Bytional AsRock n100?
Thanks
@@jonh6671 Sure, for this type of board（n6005, n6412, n100 or n300）, mainly just check if it has enough ports for your needs since you can't ask much from their performance.
and if I wanted tone ,apping?
@@Bytional
I can afford to buy a branded NAS, but I prefer to go through similar to what you see in this video, not because I want to appear tech savvy, but because of the drinking involved during and after the build. I especially relish the heavy drinking involved when it fails and I have no one to blame but myself. Cheers!
😂😂
Great video. Intrested to see if you can build an all-NVME model without the x1 bottle neck of the consumer models in the market 😮
No THAT sounds intriguing! Are we talking sister card mounted or native board slots? Either way...colour me interested
@@nascompares I think adapter cards are needed from a NAS perspective because motherboards max out at only 4 NVME slots. But that adds complexity and maintenance work later on.
That's exactly what I want to achieve, a video on this would be really helpful
Good video but it’s missing something very important at the end.
And it’s speed test on sub file system for example.
Also with/without cache
Congrats on the 100k subscribers. BTW i've contacted the Build Police so expect a visit anytime soon lol.
*hides under table from the in coming flames*
Great review, you will save alot of people countless hours money and effort to find this info out
Helpful hints:
1) first boot the motherboard outside of the case. If it is dead you don't want to be wasting time installing it and routing cables
2) never use a cheap USB drive. Use a Samsung Fit or Bar USB Drive. You can do a search for the guy who tested them out and they beat out the rest. I am not sure but I think you can clone the USB. If so get two so when the first one dies you are not scambling looking for configurations.
3) update the BIOS. If the board dies it can be RMA'ed.
4) Use the Preclear tool in Unraid on the hard drives before using them. Side note, if you want a really nice NAS case SuperMirco offers a 4 bay one. It is not cheap but it will last and also keep your drives cool. best of luck.
"Nas Is Like" at the beginning. Excellent touch 😆👌
Seriously, you are like one of about 4 people, total, that noticed this. Thank you for being awesome bud!
It’s really crazy how budget you can go! ATM I’m looking at a total budget of 200usd for a NAS with 16TBs of storage in a raid 6 config no idea how I did it but it’s an amazing thing crazy utility.
BIG Congratulations on 100K, well deserved! Keep it up with the very interesting content!
Thanks bud. Appreciate the kind words
Congrats!
You've read my thoughts with this DIY NAS. But I had some doubts about noise level of each part (PSU fan, motherboard fan, etc.), then got tired of reading reviews for each potential part of this build... Finaly, I've bought terramaster and cleaned up my shopping cart at Ali. )))
Gonna follow up on this build later on in another vid, so I'll be sure to touch on noise long term
@@nascompares that's great! Thanx in advance)
Been waiting for this video... Same as intro, surprised you haven't done one 😮
Great vid, thanks very much Robbie
I got there in the end!
No, thank you for the fantastic video. Hope you hit 200k soon you guys deserve it. Really appreciate the thorough details My one tip would be to invest in a build mat for that poor old scratched table, helps dampen noise, stops things rolling, can be anti static or have a brand logo.
Tbh I think that's a bloody good idea...the table is...well..it's seen better days!
I'm currently weighing up building a NAS, with the cost of electric just wondering how the power consumption at idle and in use, compares to the likes of Synology, have you done any tests for these recent builds for power consumption? If so could someone point me in the right direction@@nascompares
Congrats on 100k - well deserved! Loved the video and it was very cool to see the whole process - especially for the price!
Thanks man! Hugely appreciate the kind words, especially from a fellow NAS'er like yourself! Look forward to getting you on the channel soon!
Congrats on 100k! Could have done with this vido, when I built in my Jonsbo N2 a few days ago!
Sorry mate. Tbh I wanted thia vid live last weekend JUST as we crossed the 100K line...but the PSU failure was Friday and ended up delaying things. Fair play to the N2 case... One of the nicest 'multiuse' server tower cases I have ever seen. Wasn't a big fan of the N1 and tunneled chassis packing, but this one has had some serious forward planning for cable management and component placement.
That said, not a big fan of the SATA bay rubber straps.aybe they reduce vibration and/or noise a bit...bit they also feel like they could snap pretty easy on a hot swap in a hurry.
@@nascompares Yeah, agree with the rubber straps - although I'm hoping I won't need to remove drives too frequently! I was tempted by the N1, but I wanted to use the NAS a home server - just wanted a little extra cooling, which it looks like the N2 had. suprised to see how easy it was to build it, too. (although I've gone mainstream with an i5-12400 for a ittle more ooomph.)
Mate! If I had been making a video about making affordable powerhouse builds...THAT or a Ryzen would have been choice #1. Even toying with a new build altogether for another vid (ie custom build vs £2K Syn/QNAP NAS), but it felt like more of a challenge for this particular vid to go 'as low as possible, but emulate the turnkey options). Pretty sure Ed @spaceinvaderone is looking at this build like it's some kind of nursery level time waste lol
Hmm way less money then i thought. Built my own stuff sense my early teens but never looked in to NAS. Now days whit all the data we have on our hands this might be a good time to start my first NAS project. Grats on 100k and thanks for the info.
I was planning to build exactly the same thing with the same board. This will be useful once I got around to building mine. Thanks much!
Sit tight, N3 case build with an Intel Core board is next
Congrats on 100k subs
Another great video, and congrats on the 100K subs.
You're gonna have to do A LOT more content with this new bad boy. Detailed setup, apps, containers etc. Can't wait for more!!!
The to-do list on this puppy is extensive and intimidating in equal measure!
One of the best channels on youtube
I *loved* this build video. So much detail, great explanation, and it is clearly a done with love for this topic. I'd be interested in a similar build video if you can find a low-cost build with drive trays rather than those off rubber-pull attachments.
Did you get the PSU in the right way? Looks like the fan is blowing in to the case? Good job and congratz to 100 000.
I have just built a TopTon board (Same version) with a Jonsbo case. One note is you can actually fit that board out with 64Gb Mem so Truenas has plenty of spare capacity. I also spec'd out a lot better power supply just for the peace of mind. Wish you had done this review earlier as I would have gone with the case you had.
Which power supply and case did you go with?
Well done & congratulations! Thanks for all the great vids 👍
Cheers buddy!
New to your channel. NASCompares and you've never built a NAS from scratch before?! You can build one better than any QNAP, Synology, etc. for less. As for the USB connectors from the case. They match EXACTLY what they are since one is USB 3.0 and the other is USB-C 3.2. There is nothing non-standard about them. The issue is your motherboard only has USB 2.0.
Congratulations on 100K Robbie! Well deserved!
Thanks man, appreciate the positive words!
What an epic intro!!! And congratulations 🎉
Brilliant video! This is the best tutorial and guide I've seen for building a fully-functional, do-it-yourself NAS. I especially appreciated the step-by-step details, and your objective, brand and device-specific recommendations, evaluations, and critiques of each of the components. The Unraid solution allowing the use of such an enormous variety and size of SATA disk drives is likewise amazing. You have motivated me to take this on myself. Thank you! Now subscribed.
Great video, and the case has standard USB 3 and Type C cables and plugs, the board is the problem, with only 1 USB 2 socket onboard.
Robbie & Eddie congratulations and thank you for the always interesting videos!
Cheers dude for the kind words!
What a fantastic guide! I THANK YOU!
I've assembled PC last time probably 35 years ago - not many things have changed since then I can see.
Btw why did you go with 5105 rather than 6005? No big price difference there...
You have kept the t-shirt but you have changed the watch between the recordings - even 2 times !!! ;-)
It's not just about the time spent. It's about how much your data is worth. If you're not thinking about things like patrol reads and notifications on disk failures. Rebuild processes for the array. Those types of things... you can end up with bit rot or data loss when not noticing hardware failures.
Thank you so much for the videos, appreciate your thorough and critical takes!
Thanks guys. Congrats on 100k subs.
I swear! If you donated JUST because of my watch, you sir are Brilliant! Jokes aside, thank up for supporting us and our content. The Jonsbo N3 and components for the scales up 10G build are in progress and I hope this will be put there as soon as possible. In the meantime, there IS a follow up Jonsbo N2 piece coming this Friday and likely making a weekly piece on this system/build, as we explore what it can/cannot do. It's ALOT of time and energy to commit to a project that (unlike alot of other vids) starts with me and Ed in the minus (financially)..rather than 0. That's why it's so bloody great when people donate and why...and I'm gonna repeat myself...you are bloody brilliant!
Great video, exactly what I was looking for.
I would like to point out a detail that was left out about the total cost, standard low budget PSUs normally have abysmal power efficiency under light load which means that the PSU could even pull double the required wattage from the wall (so, half goes to waste because of inefficiency), over a span of 5y or more this could add up to a substantial difference in the final price.
(this is based on the fact that normally a NAS comes with a 12V power supply which is designed for that type of load while a standard PSU for PCs has 3V, 5V and 12V rails and the unit normally has its peak efficiency around 50-65% load)
Exceptionally true and I will endeavor to address this in the next part of this video series with the N3
The price of the shipping from Aliexpress not only varies, but can make or break your budget so it should definitely not be left out. For example here are the prices as of Nov 2023:
Jonsbo N2 (Aliexpress): $93 + $97 shipping to the US = $190
Jonsbo N2 (Amazon): $150
Jonsbo N2 (Newegg): $140
Jonsbo N3 (Aliexpress): $117 + $99 shipping = $216
Jonsbo N3 (Amazon): $170
Jonsbo N3 (Newegg): $162
As you can see, if you are in the US it's a no-brainer to buy the case from Amazon/Newegg as Aliexpress offers an inferior shipping experience.
Cool video idea. It would have nice to see some performance testing on the DIY vs professional NAS. Nice budget build for sure though!
Part 2!
Well done to reach 100k subscribers!
Cheers man.
Congrats! Pretty soon you can slap a shiny plaque behind you, or maybe make a NAS case out of it!. A channel I run needs just 8k to hit 100k. Man is it slow going once you start watching the subscriber count :D
Bear of luck man and I hope you smash 100K soon. Great stuff!!!
Congrats on the 100k subscribers!
Cheers bud! Appreciated.
Wow. another great video. Thanks so much for all the excellent content. I've been gearing up to replace my old Dell PowerEdge r510 12-HDD server. It's such a noise generator and power hog. I wonder if you could maybe do a video that focuses on daisy-chaining servers for more space. I don't want to manage multiple Unraid instances. What I'd like to do is set up one server and then attach multiple SANs as my library grows.
It is a lot more work to set up your own but it is so much more powerful and cheaper. There is no comparison really. I used a retired PC and bought a multibay drive caddy.
Would you make an episode about what's better? UnRAID or TrueNAS? What gives more possibilities? What is updated more often? And what, in general, will be a better solution?
Trying to do this, but my schedule keeps getting massively over filled. I will definitely TRY!!!!!!
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Thanks man that was super helpful
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Thanks for sharing. You've had it for at least a month now. How have the drive temperatures been? Cooling on that case seems like it might be an issue.
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I *love* your watches!
You switched them a couple of times. How many retro-watches do you have?
FINALLY...someone spotted this. I made a point of switching them constantly over the record. I have like 50+ variants, but original swapped through x9 in this video. Thank you for spotting this and making me feel better!
@@nascompares I used to wear some crazy watches. The hardest one to read time was a binary one. It displayed the hours and minutes in little light-dots. After a few months I got actually pretty good at with the binary system.
Very helpful thanks for taking the time to put this together 👍🏻
Very nice tutorial. So thorough and complete. My hats off to you.
Still laughing at the floppy disk drive sound.
Congrats on the 100k!!!
THANK YOU FOR NOTICING THAT! I've been waiting almost a day for someone to spot it
Congratulations on 100K subscribers.
Thanks playa'h!
Sweet! What’s the idle power consumption on this bad boy?!?
Currently got it chugging along in the test area. I'll add this to the future tests
Congrats on 100k sub!
Cheers man!
Congrats on 100K subscribers.
Yeah, I can easily see 10+ hours of build time which at any reasonable hourly rate would easily add $200 to $400 dollars unless one was doing it as a learning experience and was extremely cash poor and time abundant (a student or someone laid off in a severe recession). Reminds me of the old Heath Kits for radios and other electronic devices. Even if one would do it once, would one do it twice, let alone half a dozen times? I am still puzzled by the price disparity between a laptop and a NAS. If I go to my local Target department store I can see laptops from an i7 all the way down to a Celeron. A NAS doesn't have a large screen or a keyboard why does it cost more to manufacture than a laptop? Or the disparity between a NAS and an Apple Mac Mini. A NAS is brain dead, but has lots of storage, while an Apple Mac Mini has lots of processing power, but little storage and needs a "Time Machine" (which Apple no longer manufactures) for backup. Perhaps there is a synergistic setup between an Apple Mac Mini and a NAS. But, unless there is a new Apple product announcement Docker X86 is crippled on Apple Mac Mini with Apple Silicon (M1, M2, etc) and one is dependent on a limited and aging supply of Apple Mac Minis (which are soon going to lack security upgrades).
Now THAT is a fantastically detailed comment and EXACTLY the kind of things that's a delight to read (from a storage and component enthusiast POV). Thanks bud
Heath Kits... you're showing your age. And, I'm showing mine by recognizing the name. Do you recall the magazine adverts for Heath Kits telling readers that they could build their own colour TV's ?
I'm pretty sure most current NAS systems, including Synology, QNAP, UnRaid, and TrueNAS all have software that allows them to appear as a Time Machine destination for backups for any Mac (Apple Silicon or Intel), in case you weren't aware
@@compudude Yes, you are correct. My error. I should have said Apple no longer makes TimeCapsule hardware, but you are correct Apple still has the TimeMachine software.
@@DavidM2002 My dad gifted me Volt Ohm Meter (VOM) kit which I built in 5th grade and Shortwave radio kit (with vacuum tubes) which I did not complete until 7th grade. I think I had Heathkit catalog. My dad warned me off Color TV. I was drolling over Altair Computer Kit which fortunately I did not get.
Congrats on 100k! Another great video of course but one complaint...... holy ads!
if you review NAS, would'nt average power draw, and especially "IDLE" power draw be a pretty important topic?
I think the biggest pro for Synology is the software package and ease of use and not only putting together a case, a board and a JOBD.
I recommend you check out the Jonsbo N3 i9 build vid I just made live...kinda insane what $599 gets you.....
Been down both paths for 20+ years. If I want to impress my peers I build my own servers. If I want to impress my family get a Synology. Played with Unraid to make hardware pass through setups with Windows XP/98 systems and 3DFX and Creative EAX cards and its an ongoing project, fraught with many many issues. They are fun projects, but you will get to the stage that other hobbies call you and a Synology is the way to go. After all, we don't live forever and the kids will inherit them, so they need something less IT knowledge base intensive.
Synology easy to use and Hybrid file system made them my choice to implement for production back up for my wife’s UA-cam content. 1 hour max setup, can increase drives in a piecemeal fashion, system mirror when time to upgrade entire system made it an easy decision. Built many servers and NAS in the past, but don’t have the time to be full time IT Support now.
Likewise, I had all the parts and most of the skills to build one. But I didn't want to turn my data storage into a project relying upon my skills. So I bought a commercial NAS and it's worked flawlessly, knock on wood, for a decade or so. It has one job. It does it. The drives got replaced solely due to age. Seven years of no errors was pushing luck. Good excuse to find out what does happen when a blank drive gets swapped into an array. The process worked. I have never had to fuss with it, not even once. My goal was met. I have never had to pull an all nighter sweating like a pig trying to troubleshoot why my "NAS project" is down and wondering if my data is lost.
am i missing something about how it performs and power consumption? Will that come in a later upload? Thinking of trying the motherboard/cpu combo
Congrats on the 100k,. Keep going!
Thanks mate!
Great content! Congratulations on a well-deserved 100K!
Thanks man...also...10/10 username
Kudos to everyone who made this video to happen
Also resale value of turn key is something worth considering. DIY resale close to zero once components get old. Whereas synology keeps value well.