Every point you make here is basically on the XH2S as well, however the stacked sensor gives more additional perks. As an event photographer working under strong artificial light but also needing to be utterly silent (musicians/orchestras etc), using the electronic shutter in these situations and its 6ms read out speed means I can use the camera above 1/50-60 shutter speeds without banding occurring. To do the same with XH2 or XT5 you will get banding issues (first hand experience). So whilst the shutter is very dampened and quiet on all these recent models, having the ability to use electronic shutter at any shutter speed and shoot completely silent is a feature that is incredibly powerful, freeing and rewarding but seldom talked about. It's one of the reasons I keep getting repeat business, because I am so utterly unintrusive be it government conferences or rehearsals/performances. In terms of shutter speeds, going to 1/180,000 is pretty mental, but I don't know if it is really necessary. I get 1/32,000 with the XH2S and I live in sunny Australia and I have some very fast lenses like the IBELUX 40mm f0.85 and I still have not encountered a scenario I needed to add a ND filter because I was maxing out at 1/32,000. So being able to go to 1/180,000 is totally cool, but I'm not sure its an every day need, and even your examples show up to 1/32,000 is enough. But yes, you kinda think this is standard on many other cameras, then you go check out the competition and realise their ES mode is stuck at 1/8000 and you think to yourself 'what is even the point of your ES mode bro?' 😄
Thanks so much for watching!☺️ Shooting orchestra at ES and under artificial light is indeed a very particular case in which you will want to have that stacked sensor for sure!☺️ I have shot events under artificial lights but never in a scenario in which I could not shoot mechanical shutter. I agree that most Fuji cameras have sufficiently fast electronic shutters, even my X-T30 can reach that 1/32.000s that I usually do not go beyond either. I also would not choose an X-T5 based on that insane ES. I use the X-T5 over an X-H2s simply because I benefit more from higher resolution and slightly better photographic dynamic range than from very fast and sustainable burst and readout speeds! Might still pick up one in the future, because of its speed! Thanks for your engaging comment!☺️
@@pithaupert Yeh, stacked sensors are kinda niche, if you don't need them you probably do work that doesn't really need them. Having said that it can still be quite an experience to think of your camera as a pure ES machine (my MS count must be very low, I rarely need to opt in and use it over ES). Probably though the interface differences between the two cameras can be a stronger reason to choose one over the other. I did my tour of duty with my XT4 and I really couldn't wait to get back to PASM (and the Custom modes, which I use all 7!). No right or wrong here, just user preferences.
@@SummersSnaps I guess the lower the shutter count the better ;) For the type of videos I do, I would occasionally benefit from the PASM dial customisation too. But since I photograph 90% of the time, I really like the experience of the X-T5!
I really like the shutter sound of my XT3. It’s strong and has a satisfying click, making it easy to know when I’ve taken a photo. However, with my XT5, I rarely worry about switching to the electronic shutter in quieter settings-it’s so silent that you hardly notice it unless you're looking through the viewfinder. Overall, this has allowed me more opportunities to take 'discreet' photos. Sure, I could use the electronic shutter, but I really don’t like it under artificial lighting; I’ve had too many unpleasant surprises with it. After some adjustment, I hardly used my XT3 anymore and ended up selling it at the start of the year. (Translated with ChatGPT)
Thanks for your comment!☺️ I perfectly agree with you that you can operate the X-T5 much more silently without even having to use electronic shutter! I can also relate to the artificial light problem that‘s hardly an issue with the X-T5!😊
The Fuji shutter really is so so nice. I loved trying it during our photo walk and I think it's great for street photography! The dynamic range i such a cool feature, trying to see if my sony a6700 can do this as well after this video !! :D
@@Reckless917 Glad we have the same opinion on the shutter sound😉 I am fairly certain DR settings also exist on Sony, just under a different name! Thanks for watching Lina☺️
Do you have any opinion on the X-T50? Seems to be advertised as a smaller XT-5 but comparing my T50 shutter sound I think it is actually louder than the T5.
Dear Duncan, thanks for your comment!☺️ In many ways, the X-T50 is a baby X-T5 but it lacks the newer shutter unit and weather sealing to still set them apart! In my opinion, this actually makes the X-T5 the better deal, given the rather high asking price of the X-T50🙈
@@DarrylHebbes Thanks for your comment Darry! There is indeed no list, measure or degree of „underratedness.“ Yet, my own experience scrolling blog posts, forums, youtube comments and interactions with fellow photographers suggests that there is features that are very useful, yet very underused. The prime example is dynamic range settings: many photographers refuse to use them because they requires a higher ISO suggesting worse dynamic range. But they can be powerful when used properly. So I clarified how to use this tool while attracting viewers by calling it „underrated.“
Great video,specially about the electronic shutter use! I will just say, as much as I love my X-T5, its shutter sound doesn't hold a candle to the one from the X-T2 (mecanical shutters). It is not stealthy but my God... the sound rocks!
Thanks so much for watching!☺️ The mechanical shutter sound and feel is a very personal thing! While I like the one on the X-T5, I also liked the one on the X-T2!🤩
I jumped on the Sony ship from Fujifilm and right back to Fujifilm🙈 Sonys are great cameras in many ways but I did not like the ergonomics and was missing the fun of the Fujis! Make sure to try out the Sony before buying😉
@@rickslijkhuis6822 I believe this was after the introduction of the new color science. I don’t necessarily rely on great SOOC photos, and I think it’s possible to edit files from different systems in a similar way. However, I’ve found Fuji files easier to grade, as I often use film simulations as a starting point for my edits!
@@pithaupert I found out that Sony's creative looks work similar to film simulations in that regard. You can also select them as a camera profile and edit from there and use it in your life view as well. The only thing is that it's tucked away in the menu with Sony. This is all from reading reviews. I still need to check it myself.
@@rickslijkhuis6822 Good to know, thanks! I did not check it out myself admittedly but the Classic Chrome recipe on my Fuji is hard to beat🤣No seriously, I love that look so much haha
They are underrated due to some perfectionist characters, who proberly goes through all the settings in order to find their "perfection" setting, sets it all on auto, shoots Jpegs, with cinema bracketing and they wonder why their camera gets a slow AF and blame and demand Fuji should be as good a Sony, never read the manual. Completely absent from reality and makes all forums toxics. Quite annoying since Fuji actually made great cameras especially the newest generation.
Thanks for your comment! I also think Fujifilm cameras are fantastic and the features I mention in this video are part of the reason I shoot Fuji and not any other brand! And I agree with your point that the AF shitstorm is exaggerated especially since I rarely hear pro Fuji shooters complain about the AF😂 In my video I also really tried to emphasise the practical benefits of the ES, the DR settings and the shutter sound to not be part of those who go through the spec sheet and find underrated specs that are only theoretically valuable and not of any practical use😅 Thanks for watching!
Most you mention isn't specific the T5 , but for most recent Fuji bodies. X-T4 has also great shutter sound, probably the same or very similiar. X-T3 sounds like a sewing machine in comparison.
@@hejakma4682 Thanks for pointing that out! And yes, you‘re absolutely right! In the case of ES and DR settings, I just feel like the X-T5 is bringing already existing features a bit further! The X-T4 is a fantastic camera too though!☺️
I found the shutter noise of the X-T5 a downgrade compared to the X-T4. It‘s less „clicky“ but more something like a hissing sound. I am complaining though on a very high level.
These are hardly features to yell and scream about and justify an upgrade! TBH I’m struggling to make an argument to upgrade my XT2 to anything higher than an XT3 but accepted I don’t shoot video. And I waited so long for the 40MP XH2 and tried an XT5… I still can’t justify the 1300 euro I’d have to pay.
The features are not necessarily game changers, they just come in very handy in specific situations that I illustrate in my video! At the same time, the X-T2 is still an incredible camera in many regards, what I‘d miss most comparing it to a newer camera is IBIS as it gives me some more creative flexibility in my shots. If I didn‘t shoot handheld video, the X-T2 would get the job done for me too! Thanks for watching😊
Nice video, even I have to say that camera should first be capable to get a picture in a reliable and consistent manner. The feeling about sound and others should be an add on and not somethign to trade with the essentil feature like the AF. If you use the camera professionaly to make your money you have to be sure to can get that picture at that moment, claiming to have a silint system is not a good reason to take 5 or 6 time more shot. FUJIFILM need to address the focus issue as soon as possible.
I agree with you that the AF algorithms on other brands are much more robust than the ones on Fuji and the video was not intended to deviate from that fact. Yet, I value Fujifilm for producing experience-based cameras: retro dials, nice clicks, nice colours and shutter sounds. For me that's worth the tradeoff but I understand that some people put less value on experience and more on peak capability. In that case, it is not the right camera brand, agreed!
@@pithaupert Respect! But if I buy a car that car should be able to switch on and stop when I need, the feeling about the interior is a great add on ... but should not be the priority. So AF must work!
@@jackrussel9991 Agreed! Yet I feel you portray Fuji‘s AF as if it wasn‘t working at all, which is also inaccurate. Could it be better? Yes, absolutely! But I‘m still getting 99% of my shots in focus so I‘d argue that my car has style but also a solid engine. Is it best engine? No, but it gets the job done!
@@pithaupert a system that work in a reliable way is a system that you can trust, is a system that is there when you need. Do you really want to convince us that you will be happy with a car that will stop 99% of the cases? Well if you answer yes, good luck! If so many FUJIFILM user are moving to other platforms it should be a reason.
Haha amazing! The mechanical shutter of the X-T5 is just underrated... I heard that the one of the X-H2s is even more silent, hard to believe actually 😆
@@ShangleLP yeah fair! I do really love the 40MP sensor, especially with the right glass! But true, it is not as big of a deal as Fuji wants us to believe it is 👀
@@pithaupert yeat it just comes with a lot of disadvantages. actually the only feature i miss on my xt4 is the digital tele converter. But just fo this feature it price was not worth it for me in comparison to the xt4 haha.
@@ShangleLP I use the digital teleconverter for framing occasionally, but that‘s already it!😆 I agree that ‚upgrading‘ from an X-T4 to an X-T5 is not necessarily a straightforward upgrade!
The amount hype surrounding this camera is insane. There is nothing about this camera that is underrated. I'm fell for the hype. It's an overrated camera. My older Sony A7III is way better
The A7 iii is in many ways a fantastic camera. There is no one fits all camera. But for me, Sony cameras are too much of a tool, they are not as fun to use as the Fujis.
Great Video. I also love the shutter of the x-T5.
Glad we are on the same page! Thank you for watching!☺
Every point you make here is basically on the XH2S as well, however the stacked sensor gives more additional perks. As an event photographer working under strong artificial light but also needing to be utterly silent (musicians/orchestras etc), using the electronic shutter in these situations and its 6ms read out speed means I can use the camera above 1/50-60 shutter speeds without banding occurring. To do the same with XH2 or XT5 you will get banding issues (first hand experience). So whilst the shutter is very dampened and quiet on all these recent models, having the ability to use electronic shutter at any shutter speed and shoot completely silent is a feature that is incredibly powerful, freeing and rewarding but seldom talked about. It's one of the reasons I keep getting repeat business, because I am so utterly unintrusive be it government conferences or rehearsals/performances.
In terms of shutter speeds, going to 1/180,000 is pretty mental, but I don't know if it is really necessary. I get 1/32,000 with the XH2S and I live in sunny Australia and I have some very fast lenses like the IBELUX 40mm f0.85 and I still have not encountered a scenario I needed to add a ND filter because I was maxing out at 1/32,000. So being able to go to 1/180,000 is totally cool, but I'm not sure its an every day need, and even your examples show up to 1/32,000 is enough. But yes, you kinda think this is standard on many other cameras, then you go check out the competition and realise their ES mode is stuck at 1/8000 and you think to yourself 'what is even the point of your ES mode bro?' 😄
Thanks so much for watching!☺️ Shooting orchestra at ES and under artificial light is indeed a very particular case in which you will want to have that stacked sensor for sure!☺️ I have shot events under artificial lights but never in a scenario in which I could not shoot mechanical shutter.
I agree that most Fuji cameras have sufficiently fast electronic shutters, even my X-T30 can reach that 1/32.000s that I usually do not go beyond either. I also would not choose an X-T5 based on that insane ES. I use the X-T5 over an X-H2s simply because I benefit more from higher resolution and slightly better photographic dynamic range than from very fast and sustainable burst and readout speeds! Might still pick up one in the future, because of its speed!
Thanks for your engaging comment!☺️
@@pithaupert Yeh, stacked sensors are kinda niche, if you don't need them you probably do work that doesn't really need them. Having said that it can still be quite an experience to think of your camera as a pure ES machine (my MS count must be very low, I rarely need to opt in and use it over ES). Probably though the interface differences between the two cameras can be a stronger reason to choose one over the other. I did my tour of duty with my XT4 and I really couldn't wait to get back to PASM (and the Custom modes, which I use all 7!). No right or wrong here, just user preferences.
@@SummersSnaps I guess the lower the shutter count the better ;) For the type of videos I do, I would occasionally benefit from the PASM dial customisation too. But since I photograph 90% of the time, I really like the experience of the X-T5!
I really like the shutter sound of my XT3. It’s strong and has a satisfying click, making it easy to know when I’ve taken a photo. However, with my XT5, I rarely worry about switching to the electronic shutter in quieter settings-it’s so silent that you hardly notice it unless you're looking through the viewfinder. Overall, this has allowed me more opportunities to take 'discreet' photos. Sure, I could use the electronic shutter, but I really don’t like it under artificial lighting; I’ve had too many unpleasant surprises with it. After some adjustment, I hardly used my XT3 anymore and ended up selling it at the start of the year. (Translated with ChatGPT)
Thanks for your comment!☺️ I perfectly agree with you that you can operate the X-T5 much more silently without even having to use electronic shutter! I can also relate to the artificial light problem that‘s hardly an issue with the X-T5!😊
The Fuji shutter really is so so nice. I loved trying it during our photo walk and I think it's great for street photography! The dynamic range i such a cool feature, trying to see if my sony a6700 can do this as well after this video !! :D
@@Reckless917 Glad we have the same opinion on the shutter sound😉 I am fairly certain DR settings also exist on Sony, just under a different name! Thanks for watching Lina☺️
Do you have any opinion on the X-T50? Seems to be advertised as a smaller XT-5 but comparing my T50 shutter sound I think it is actually louder than the T5.
Dear Duncan, thanks for your comment!☺️ In many ways, the X-T50 is a baby X-T5 but it lacks the newer shutter unit and weather sealing to still set them apart! In my opinion, this actually makes the X-T5 the better deal, given the rather high asking price of the X-T50🙈
Crazy Videoquali 🤝
Thank youu!☺
Where do people find these “underrated” statistics? Is there a big list of things “no body is talking about “ and “most underrated “ somewhere?
@@DarrylHebbes Thanks for your comment Darry! There is indeed no list, measure or degree of „underratedness.“ Yet, my own experience scrolling blog posts, forums, youtube comments and interactions with fellow photographers suggests that there is features that are very useful, yet very underused. The prime example is dynamic range settings: many photographers refuse to use them because they requires a higher ISO suggesting worse dynamic range. But they can be powerful when used properly. So I clarified how to use this tool while attracting viewers by calling it „underrated.“
Wonderfull video. Thank You.
Thank YOU for watching and for the lovely feedback! ☺
Great video,specially about the electronic shutter use!
I will just say, as much as I love my X-T5, its shutter sound doesn't hold a candle to the one from the X-T2 (mecanical shutters).
It is not stealthy but my God... the sound rocks!
Thanks so much for watching!☺️ The mechanical shutter sound and feel is a very personal thing! While I like the one on the X-T5, I also liked the one on the X-T2!🤩
It sounss like a butterfly 🦋 ✨️...its why i use my XT5 for weddings
that's a fun comparison!😉 love it! thanks for watching!☺
@@pithaupert no problems 😊 👌
Very true. This is why i'm hesitant to jump ship to Sony due to the AF issues at Fujifilm right now.
I jumped on the Sony ship from Fujifilm and right back to Fujifilm🙈 Sonys are great cameras in many ways but I did not like the ergonomics and was missing the fun of the Fujis! Make sure to try out the Sony before buying😉
@@pithaupert thanks! Was that before or after the "new color science" by Sony?
@@rickslijkhuis6822 I believe this was after the introduction of the new color science. I don’t necessarily rely on great SOOC photos, and I think it’s possible to edit files from different systems in a similar way. However, I’ve found Fuji files easier to grade, as I often use film simulations as a starting point for my edits!
@@pithaupert I found out that Sony's creative looks work similar to film simulations in that regard. You can also select them as a camera profile and edit from there and use it in your life view as well. The only thing is that it's tucked away in the menu with Sony. This is all from reading reviews. I still need to check it myself.
@@rickslijkhuis6822 Good to know, thanks! I did not check it out myself admittedly but the Classic Chrome recipe on my Fuji is hard to beat🤣No seriously, I love that look so much haha
They are underrated due to some perfectionist characters, who proberly goes through all the settings in order to find their "perfection" setting, sets it all on auto, shoots Jpegs, with cinema bracketing and they wonder why their camera gets a slow AF and blame and demand Fuji should be as good a Sony, never read the manual. Completely absent from reality and makes all forums toxics. Quite annoying since Fuji actually made great cameras especially the newest generation.
Thanks for your comment! I also think Fujifilm cameras are fantastic and the features I mention in this video are part of the reason I shoot Fuji and not any other brand! And I agree with your point that the AF shitstorm is exaggerated especially since I rarely hear pro Fuji shooters complain about the AF😂 In my video I also really tried to emphasise the practical benefits of the ES, the DR settings and the shutter sound to not be part of those who go through the spec sheet and find underrated specs that are only theoretically valuable and not of any practical use😅 Thanks for watching!
Most you mention isn't specific the T5 , but for most recent Fuji bodies. X-T4 has also great shutter sound, probably the same or very similiar. X-T3 sounds like a sewing machine in comparison.
@@hejakma4682 Thanks for pointing that out! And yes, you‘re absolutely right! In the case of ES and DR settings, I just feel like the X-T5 is bringing already existing features a bit further! The X-T4 is a fantastic camera too though!☺️
I found the shutter noise of the X-T5 a downgrade compared to the X-T4. It‘s less „clicky“ but more something like a hissing sound. I am complaining though on a very high level.
Shutter sounds are very much based on personal preference! Admittedly, I never owned the X-T4 so I just trust your judgement ;)
As to the shutter sound check x-h1.
@@ziga1218 Is it nice?☺️ Old but gold, I love that generation of cameras!
I think xt5 is rated
over or underrated? 🤣 Thanks for watching!
These are hardly features to yell and scream about and justify an upgrade! TBH I’m struggling to make an argument to upgrade my XT2 to anything higher than an XT3 but accepted I don’t shoot video. And I waited so long for the 40MP XH2 and tried an XT5… I still can’t justify the 1300 euro I’d have to pay.
The features are not necessarily game changers, they just come in very handy in specific situations that I illustrate in my video! At the same time, the X-T2 is still an incredible camera in many regards, what I‘d miss most comparing it to a newer camera is IBIS as it gives me some more creative flexibility in my shots. If I didn‘t shoot handheld video, the X-T2 would get the job done for me too! Thanks for watching😊
Nice video, even I have to say that camera should first be capable to get a picture in a reliable and consistent manner. The feeling about sound and others should be an add on and not somethign to trade with the essentil feature like the AF. If you use the camera professionaly to make your money you have to be sure to can get that picture at that moment, claiming to have a silint system is not a good reason to take 5 or 6 time more shot. FUJIFILM need to address the focus issue as soon as possible.
I agree with you that the AF algorithms on other brands are much more robust than the ones on Fuji and the video was not intended to deviate from that fact. Yet, I value Fujifilm for producing experience-based cameras: retro dials, nice clicks, nice colours and shutter sounds. For me that's worth the tradeoff but I understand that some people put less value on experience and more on peak capability. In that case, it is not the right camera brand, agreed!
@@pithaupert Respect! But if I buy a car that car should be able to switch on and stop when I need, the feeling about the interior is a great add on ... but should not be the priority. So AF must work!
@@jackrussel9991 Agreed! Yet I feel you portray Fuji‘s AF as if it wasn‘t working at all, which is also inaccurate. Could it be better? Yes, absolutely! But I‘m still getting 99% of my shots in focus so I‘d argue that my car has style but also a solid engine. Is it best engine? No, but it gets the job done!
@@pithaupert a system that work in a reliable way is a system that you can trust, is a system that is there when you need. Do you really want to convince us that you will be happy with a car that will stop 99% of the cases? Well if you answer yes, good luck! If so many FUJIFILM user are moving to other platforms it should be a reason.
i literally shoot portraits of my friends in front of their face without them noticing and that WITH MS. It was just magical :D
Haha amazing! The mechanical shutter of the X-T5 is just underrated... I heard that the one of the X-H2s is even more silent, hard to believe actually 😆
@@pithaupert yeah I would have loved to have the xh2s sensor in the xt5. dont need the high mp. buts its fine :D
@@ShangleLP yeah fair! I do really love the 40MP sensor, especially with the right glass! But true, it is not as big of a deal as Fuji wants us to believe it is 👀
@@pithaupert yeat it just comes with a lot of disadvantages. actually the only feature i miss on my xt4 is the digital tele converter. But just fo this feature it price was not worth it for me in comparison to the xt4 haha.
@@ShangleLP I use the digital teleconverter for framing occasionally, but that‘s already it!😆 I agree that ‚upgrading‘ from an X-T4 to an X-T5 is not necessarily a straightforward upgrade!
The amount hype surrounding this camera is insane. There is nothing about this camera that is underrated. I'm fell for the hype. It's an overrated camera.
My older Sony A7III is way better
The A7 iii is in many ways a fantastic camera. There is no one fits all camera. But for me, Sony cameras are too much of a tool, they are not as fun to use as the Fujis.