Can women really have it all? Is Kemi Badenoch suitable material for leader of the opposition?

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  • @sheetalsilveira9554
    @sheetalsilveira9554 3 дні тому +25

    I’m so so glad that Catholic unscripted discussed this topic. Not addressed enough today. Even the clergy aren’t addressing this. We are constantly fighting against what God created us to be and the ones who should really speak aren’t speaking at all. I see this craze and desperation amongst women who just want to get out in the workforce undermining their role as a mother. They just want to be like everyone else. Thanks to Our Lord and His grace that He opened my eyes to see things different..and of course it’s hard. There is always a price to pay. But there’s also a beautiful outcome which we will see sooner or later. But the biggest peace comes from the fact that we are striving to live as God has called us to be fulfilling our role as mothers, as nurturers. Whilst the world is constantly pulling us away from the home.

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому +3

      The questions remain what is the morally acceptable "price to pay" and what is the "beautiful outcome" in the balance between work and parent? The balance may be lopsided for mothers who must work simply for economic survival. For others it may be by choice. It has been pointed out, too, that fathers are not excluded from having to make the same choices.

  • @fleuromeara4924
    @fleuromeara4924 3 дні тому +29

    In my humble opinion Katherine is right. A mother's place is in the home caring for her children. All the arguments she put forward make sense.

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому +2

      It is nice for someone in the middle or upper income brackets to state what you have, but for mothers who must work simply for economic survival? I may be mistaken, but Katherine does not seem at all clear just how government may make it easier for mothers who must work simply for economic survival? Specifics?

    • @johnbolwell5969
      @johnbolwell5969 23 години тому

      You are absolutely right - that is the best arrangement for the children; but the feminists won't like you saying it!

  • @johnbolwell5969
    @johnbolwell5969 2 дні тому +11

    G K Chesterton wrote: "There is only one thing really worth doing with the ideal - do it." The big lie of the feminist movement is that women can have it all. Gavin is spot-on about fathers and the important role of discipline. Wonderful discussion.

  • @Hope20249
    @Hope20249 3 дні тому +9

    Thank you. Great to listen in here. God bless.

  • @juphy7525
    @juphy7525 3 дні тому +10

    “A whole generation of women who stamped their feet and said: ‘I will not be dictated to’ and became stenographers…” 😂

  • @christianleblanc2842
    @christianleblanc2842 2 дні тому +6

    I can't bear children, and my body would never make food for them. I can't have it all, and neither can my wife. But together, we can, and do, have it all.

  • @MarianneTomlinson
    @MarianneTomlinson 3 дні тому +9

    This was great! I’m a SAHM and it was my idea but people assume I was made to give up my glittering career as a…teacher! 😅 the state wants our children, and the easiest way to achieve it is to convince parents that the best place for children are state institutions.

  • @danmillar9582
    @danmillar9582 3 дні тому +15

    You have a great channel. I love Catholics!

  • @marygr8064
    @marygr8064 3 дні тому +19

    I was a single mother of two sons after divorcing an abusive husband. I still grieve that my sons didn’t have a strong father in their lives. I see those unfortunate fruits even now as they enter their thirties.

    • @thadtuiol1717
      @thadtuiol1717 2 дні тому

      You chose poorly. The rest of us shouldn't have to suffer for that.

    • @mrbaker7443
      @mrbaker7443 2 дні тому

      @@thadtuiol1717harsh

    • @lightowl4345
      @lightowl4345 День тому

      @thadtuiol1717 how callous or out of touch with reality you are.

  • @shortferal
    @shortferal 3 дні тому +17

    I'm weary of hearing and talking about what women need - and I am a woman. Women in the workplace might be alright, but only after any children reach a level of independence.
    There's another taboo topic, as I know firsthand how much a single woman in the workplace becomes a distraction to married men who work beside them. It's unavoidable because it is a reality: most men notice women. Seems an obvious detriment to work performance overall. And to the marriages of working men. And ultimately negatively affects the lives of those children who are not even related to the woman in the workplace. They sense the insecurity and strife between their parents when the woman at work is someone dad talks about at home. It never was like this before feminism turned the workplace upside down.
    Each of us have a responsibility to the society we live in, simple fact. Just think about healthy children, and the raising of more of them, and a traditional family structure quickly reasserts itself as the most practical setup.
    Furthermore, even after children are grown, I contend it remains the duty of a wife to remain at home and nurture her still working or retired husband. Surely, as he's a mature adult, he requires less monitoring than children would, so women have their own opportunity to slow down the pace and rigor of their work as well. It seems to me it would be a harmonious arrangement.
    Why oh why do women want to leave their children? Nothing in the arts, sciences, military, or manufacturing fields offers comparable returns. It's the ultimate creative outlet, shaping children's character. Men do it best by example, women through conversation.
    Great show. I love hearing from the men, Katherine you're brilliant to have them here to give their perspective and life experience.

    • @sheetalsilveira9554
      @sheetalsilveira9554 3 дні тому +1

      Very well said..

    • @racheljames7
      @racheljames7 3 дні тому +4

      Well said. As a woman, I'm also sick of hearing about what women need, as if we're not grown ups and we need to be mollycoddled. To be fair alot of women are childish and do require mollycoddling but those are the ones who needn't be told to grow up and stop being so selfish.

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому +2

      About attraction in the workplace, I suggest that dress, behavior, and etiquette have something to do with it. Some women seem to react that it is sexist to suggest that dress, behavior, and etiquette have anything to do with it. We, as Christians, may exhibit our Christianity by our conduct. I am not idealizing Victorian neck to ankle, but there is moderation. There is balance.

  • @marygr8064
    @marygr8064 3 дні тому +12

    Katherine is on fire in this episode. Well done!!!

  • @racheljames7
    @racheljames7 3 дні тому +9

    Katherine is a lady after my own heart. I don't understand a woman who would choose to dump her own children with strangers or her aging parents so she can have a stupid career in which any moron could replace her.

  • @Catholicspeaker
    @Catholicspeaker 3 дні тому +7

    Great discussion - Agreed!!! Women can’t have it all! This diabolical lie that woman can, seems to me started in a garden: “when you eat your eyes will be open and you will be like God”. A promise to have it all, resulted in the loss of everything.

    • @borderlands6606
      @borderlands6606 3 дні тому

      Women are less inclined to have-it-all, than drop out of human reproduction and stable relationships entirely.

  • @camvanzanten2058
    @camvanzanten2058 3 дні тому +5

    100% great job guys, people do forget that a lot of things have to give if a mother/wife wants to pursue a career and it's usually their husbands/kids, not a good trade-off in my opinion

  • @happyme2000
    @happyme2000 3 дні тому +10

    As a male it’s marvellous to hear a woman lead this topic. Why the two gents are both very careful. I know the feeling. I think about this topic a lot and what’s said makes sense. Speak out about the logic and be prepared for the avalanche of reprisal. This the conversation mostly happens in my head. 😀

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому +2

      Yes, it seems some women want it both ways, i. e. to be acceptable professionally and attractive beyond the boundaries of moderation. Men must tread cautiously.

  • @fleuromeara4924
    @fleuromeara4924 3 дні тому +4

    Yes, i agree royquick. Too many mothers simply have to work. I am referring to the position of PM. It is not a position for a young mother who must put her family first. The very fact that she has put herself forward to take on this position tells you something.
    The govt' should give financial support to mothers from low income families to keep them at home.

  • @AB-kc3yc
    @AB-kc3yc 2 дні тому +1

    Thank you, a great much needed discussion. 'Consequences' a forbidden word excluded from the new liberal woke dictionary. God Bless 🙏🏻

  • @dianastevenson131
    @dianastevenson131 3 дні тому +6

    Sadly I don't know any family who could afford to live on one income, so that the mother could be at home as a full-time mum. We managed it for a total of 4 years, but if you're paying rent or a mortgage it's impossible to do for long. Families need a lot more financial support because we live in a "rentier" society with such unequal land ownership (the UK is as unequal as Brazil).

    • @borderlands6606
      @borderlands6606 3 дні тому +3

      Indeed. The reality of the working father earning enough to support a wife and several children and a home, while providing the necessities of life, hasn't been a realistic vision for many years. My father achieved it, but only by working 12 hours a day for forty years, while we lived in what was even then recognised as poverty. It's an excellent aspiration to return to the single provider, and it worked when people still lived in close-knit communities where everyone looked out for one another, and possessed very little. Or among the professional classes of Metroland. Today it's the preserve of those with surplus cash, typically with the highly qualified wife who can drop in and out of a career as child rearing necessitates. That is not the reality of the masses, who have few choices, and muddle through as best they can while society picks up the pieces.

    • @whiteheatherclub
      @whiteheatherclub 3 дні тому +4

      I managed it for many years after 1978. Once our children were born my wife never went back to work apart from an occasional bit of part-time working such as invigilating exams. We had two children and we owned our own house. Whether that would be possible today I don't know. Interestingly there is now more working from home so the mother does not always go "out" to work. But whether there is any benefit to the children I could not say. If the mother is working she is hardly looking after her children. But here's another thing. I frequently see women, presumably mothers, pushing a child in a buggy. But they are too busy using their mobile phoes to talk to the child. Very sad.

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому +1

      @@whiteheatherclub Does bring up the question whether quality time is being spent at home --applicable to both fathers and mothers.

  • @carolewalker4587
    @carolewalker4587 3 дні тому +2

    Thank you , God bless. I can express the truth of this foundamental truth because I’m old and invisible and what I say is of no worth, no threat, but I’ll continue to express it.

  • @deelot1
    @deelot1 3 дні тому +5

    Money is the bottom line for the State - the State receive more tax from more women working.

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому +1

      For some "states" the bottom line is more than revenue. It is control, ideological control.

  • @andrewnelson3681
    @andrewnelson3681 3 дні тому +1

    Not being able to fly a plane should be no barrier to getting a job as a pilot.

    • @whiteheatherclub
      @whiteheatherclub 3 дні тому +3

      Or not being a competent seawoman should be no barrier to becoming captain of a warship. Witness the lady who was the captain of a ship in the New Zealand Navy and ran it onto some rocks as a result of which it sank. But there was no crticism of the captain. Instead she was praised because all members of the crew survived.

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому

      Sorry, incompetency is not restricted to gender, obviously.

  • @seansheehy6725
    @seansheehy6725 2 дні тому +4

    Perhaps all this confusion between the natural role of the male and the role of the female reminds us that they are not the same nor can one be the other highlights the need to get back to the Bible where the God-given role of the man is to be the husband, father leader, protector, defender, and provider, while the God-given role of the woman is to be the wife, mother, nurturer, formator, lover. The man is the head the the woman is the heart and both need and complement one another. Man's leadership is seen while woman's leadership is unseen - both are equally real.

    • @imeldatobin7243
      @imeldatobin7243 2 дні тому

      Sadly, when women take on "high powered" careers , they risk pushing their husbands into the "wimp" category. (I know I will be devoured for saying this!) When roles in the family are reversed , we end up with a generation of very confused children. Bishop Williamson addresses this powerfully in some of his sermons but he is just an old fuddy duddy schismatic. God help us when we reject His Plan for Humanity! The "woke" are alseep.

    • @imeldatobin7243
      @imeldatobin7243 2 дні тому

      Why was my reply removed??

    • @imeldatobin7243
      @imeldatobin7243 2 дні тому

      Sadly, the roles have been reversed in our modern "progressive" Western Society. Women who take on "high powered" jobs, risk pushing their husbands into the "Wimp" category ( I will be devoured for saying this) Confusion reigns when God's Plan for Humanity is thwarted, Bishop Williamson highlighted this on many occasions.God help the next generation. No wonder they are unsure if they are boys or girls.

  • @SaintOsburg
    @SaintOsburg 3 дні тому +3

    Former Wimbledon Pirate is a much better introduction than former Queen's Chaplain.

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому +1

      I still have respect for Gavin as a bishop. How? Why? Mt 12.31-32. Anglicans as well as Roman Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit is operant in a sacrament, of which ordination is one. For fellow Romans, the Church once required converts from Anglican churches to undergo conditional baptism. Not too long ago, round sixty years ago. It does not now. Tread carefully in opposition. Look round. In meetings of Roman Catholic and Anglican clergy, do you see either treating the other as less than a minister of God, a priest a priest, a bishop a bishop? I have known both for many years. Has Pope Francis treated even women Church of England bishops disrespectfully in meetings? Would a "trad" clergyman go out of the way to treat one differently?

    • @SaintOsburg
      @SaintOsburg 3 дні тому

      @@royquick-s5n A Wimbledon pirate wouldn't care about any of that. They just roam the streets.

  • @wendyharrap8771
    @wendyharrap8771 3 дні тому +1

    Behind every man there is a Great Woman!

  • @helenkingman7842
    @helenkingman7842 2 дні тому +1

    The very high cost of living and stagnant average low wages also need to be factored in. Many women want to stay home with their young children but now mortgages and bills are so high it requires two working parents to meet living costs. Many families can no longer live on a one parent wage. Men’s wages are not high enough. Politicians and elites have little care for families in our society. Sunday opening has also fractured family living and cohesive families. Can’t see this improving until economic factors are addressed.

  • @RosWeeks
    @RosWeeks 2 дні тому

    At last we hear from Mark!!!Katherine needs to remember God gave mankind 2 ears and
    one mouth, so we should listen 2x as much as we speak. Thanks to Mark for being a great listener😊

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      @catholicunscripted  День тому

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  • @savinggift158
    @savinggift158 3 дні тому +2

    Men just know that you need to put the correct woman in your home no more counterfeits

  • @conceptualclarity
    @conceptualclarity 3 дні тому +1

    After their most recent experience why would the Tories consider putting another foreigner in charge of their party?

  • @JohnStarkey-u6z
    @JohnStarkey-u6z 7 годин тому

    Any man who can argue that women can't administer discipline never had a nun as a teacher!

  • @annemorton4731
    @annemorton4731 2 дні тому +1

    Some of these Catholic mothers also home-school.

  • @mikeryan3701
    @mikeryan3701 3 дні тому

    It was a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition that brought forward the Bill to legalise same-sex marriage. 132 Conservative MPs voted in favour, 139 against. It was passed through the help of MPs from other parties. Admittedly quite a number of the Conservative MPs who voted against later announced that rhey had changed their mind. It would be a very brave or unambitious Conservative to now make it known that they oppose the legalisation of same-sex marriage.

  • @HelenWilliams-x6r
    @HelenWilliams-x6r День тому

    As Gavin said, our man/woman complementarity is inscribed in nature. In fact it’s one of the most beautiful and romantic things in in all of Creation. It’s the reflection of the Trinity - the imago DEI. If we abandon that, what do we become? (Anthony Williams)

  • @stephenkeay1868
    @stephenkeay1868 3 дні тому +1

    "An enemy has done this".

  • @CadyAnBlack
    @CadyAnBlack 2 дні тому

    If the traditionalists were willing to philosophically abandon the pursuit of state power, might the moderns be willing to philosophically abandon the pursuit of church power?

  • @CadyAnBlack
    @CadyAnBlack 2 дні тому

    Till work vs warehouse work isn't the issue. The commercialization of labor is the issue. Equality of pay is relevant to your equal dignity and membership in the tribe, not to the marginal value of your labor.

  • @CadyAnBlack
    @CadyAnBlack 2 дні тому

    As a trans woman², I'm not the nicest woman¹ in the world, but I'm definitely the nicest transgender catholic woman² who can't resist the call to celibate sisterhood anymore in the world. And I'm not abdicating that congenial footbath for anything. ❣️🙇‍♀️

  • @stufen11
    @stufen11 3 дні тому +3

    You guys can be wacky. Good show. Great fun.

    • @carolewalker4587
      @carolewalker4587 3 дні тому +1

      What a flippant reply.

    • @stufen11
      @stufen11 3 дні тому +3

      Flippant? I was being appreciative, I love this trio, I watch them all the time. They can display a self-deprecating sense of humour, what is wrong with that?

  • @stella-maris64
    @stella-maris64 3 дні тому

    Yes the money could return to the 'child benefit' as not every family gets it and of course its currently for up to 2 children

  • @poetmaggie1
    @poetmaggie1 День тому

    No one can have it all, in this world. There jobs for men and women but that does not include house work, both sides have to do house work and should and when the kids get big enough they should too.

  • @luciadegroseille-noire8073
    @luciadegroseille-noire8073 3 дні тому +2

    Gavin is clearly the descendant of Pugwash.

  • @Fidelisjoff
    @Fidelisjoff 2 дні тому

    No. In Nigeria, maybe. Here, no. I want someone that empathises with me and oromotes my people.

  • @groggy8369
    @groggy8369 2 дні тому

    Mark’s audio is very low

  • @avilapatricia2639
    @avilapatricia2639 3 дні тому

    Very interesting topic in these liberal times! I like to compare marriage with a football soccer team: not everyone can play the striker or the goalkeeper although those positions are the ones that get the most attention. A good team needs also good midfielders, central midfielder, etc. If the midfielder aren’t good, the striker can’t perform his best. So is a marriage in the family field. And most women are definitely at their best raising their children!

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому

      And where are the fathers in some cases?

  • @SusanLangridge
    @SusanLangridge 3 дні тому

    Problem is. Alot of women earn more than their husbands??? I.e my friend is a head of school and her husband works in Tesco!! Common sense for her to work when the children are young. Years ago mens wages were more? Hsve u thought of this? Good videos

  • @hollythebordercollie2257
    @hollythebordercollie2257 2 дні тому

    I do think it is important that women with children are involved in politics - but I do not understand how someone with young children could be both. Women without children don't represent/understand mothers and cannot fully represent them 9just as a man cannot)

  • @joehouston2833
    @joehouston2833 День тому

    The UKs greatest ever PM was Thatcher.. lol.

  • @angelicacalvet6708
    @angelicacalvet6708 3 дні тому

    The Conversatives are over. Finito.

  • @SusanLangridge
    @SusanLangridge 3 дні тому

    Birth rate going down. Not in all religions in this country (this Is never mentioned)especially not on tv) so think!! What will the population/AND the main religion be???in years to come!!

  • @edwardbell9795
    @edwardbell9795 3 дні тому +1

    I hope Katherine is doing something about her cough. It seems to have been troubling her for weeks.

  • @minujohn3579
    @minujohn3579 2 дні тому

    Bring back catholic monarchy

  • @luciadegroseille-noire8073
    @luciadegroseille-noire8073 3 дні тому

    Mark was baffled by intelligent people who laugh at reason but I might have something to suggest. In my case I still, as a Catholic, find myself avoiding studying the miraculous since it seems to me that then credulity beckons. These studies might have the best evidence to support them, such as the visible Eucharistic miracle: however I find scepticism sticks me to the conventional like elastic. I conjure that a glamour is thrown over us that blinds our sight to holy things. History indicates it was not previously so and the reports that follow down from then indicates a fine understanding of the standards of evidence whilst betraying no inherent disbelief in the miraculous, only a prudent belief in its inevitable rarity. We have faith and prayer to dispel the glamour in our own eyes and in those of others.

    • @royquick-s5n
      @royquick-s5n 3 дні тому

      Does not the Church teach acceptance of apparitions is optional, not mandatory?

  • @thomism1016
    @thomism1016 День тому

    Christopher ‘Choke’ 😱😡☹️😤

  • @LS-xs7sg
    @LS-xs7sg День тому

    She's not even British