Hello, Thanks for posting this video. If you ever make a second edition of this chart, it would probably be relevant to include movements emerging in the wake of Demos Shakarian's Full Gospel Business Men's Fellowship International. Notably, these include the prosperity gospel (Oral Roberts and his followers) and the Branhamist movement (following William Branham and his disciples). Although these movements do not have large denominations that fit your requirements, as movements they largely pass these requirements and are very relevant (especially the prosperity gospel movement). Another relevant addition would be the Tokoist Church, an offshoo6of the Kimbaguinist Church which you included.
I got the chart, and was surprised by the quality of the poster material itself! i watched the videos as they came out, so i knew what to expect as far as content, but the paper you printed on was really nice and sturdy! i appreciate that quality greatly
My only tiny quibbles are, firstly, that Spiritism (not to be confused with Spiritualism) should have been acknowledged as another major post-Swedenborgian religious movement distinct from but ultimately descended from Christianity within the non-Nicene box, seeing as it is actually extremely popular in Brazil in particular; and secondly, that it would have been fun to include the Fujian Manichaeans as the other branch out of Gnosticism which survives to the present day, seeing as while the aesthetics of their practice have been influenced by attempting to remain undercover during the purges of the Song Dynasty against non-Buddhist groups, it is clear that they continue to revere Mani (originally an early Christian himself, although also heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism) as their primary religious figure.
I'd say this is, without hesitation, some of the best educational lecturing I've ever seen in my life. It's not only ridiculously good UA-cam content, it's just great material, unbelievably well presented. You explain these disparately-connected, sometimes-murky historical timelines in such a way that makes everything feel easy-breezy and digestible, while still maintaining nuance and breadth. You're infinitely clear and concise, not ever over explaining, gracefully walking us through complex histories without once tangling the web or losing the thread. Your steady tone is neither light nor heavy, and you somehow simplify without condescending. I'm in awe of your abilities. Thank you for this. (Not to mention the fucking _wildly_ beautiful chart, holy shit. Not florid, not cloying, not boring...just beautiful and instantly readable like the MTA Subway map. A triumph!)
Not to mention that, to my ears, it's presented with very little bias and in a way that respects every group without passing judgement on what they believe or the "correctness" of their beliefs and practices. Which, in a video where you are talking about every Christian denomination to ever exist, is an impressive feat on its own.
By the time this study "ends" we will have arrived at Doomsday! There won't be time to choose the right "CHURCH" that belongs to Jesus the founder of Christianity!
I appreciate your continuous tweaking throughout after audience feedback! It shows your commitment to delivering the most accurate information possible.
Thanks again for making this wonderful series! What a wonderful resource for anyone who wants to study this issue. It really is the best chart in existence on this topic.
@@caseycrowe3805 I was an atheist but all this religious content... Lots of good theology once you get past the mechanic mid husband chemist pterodactyl hunters and the Hovinds. I still like logicked videos mostly. I love the hive mind bringing ppl together.
What a devoted scholar! I can't believe I get to soak all of this in tuition free...his attention to detail is next-level, and his gracious adjustments after he is given feedback is endearing. His continued fine-tuning is indicative of the passion he has for his topic. So fortunate I stumbled across this 💚
The whole thing is a trip for sure. Watching which forms of magic are accepted from the perspective of those in their time period. In other words, god is the dude picked by our ancestors; giving some, a sense that god himself picked it. Yes, the bible taught slavery, and how to treat your slaves. I can't wait to see Christians pick that option again, because they will say the bible taught it.
@@brano2times My 'Invisible Santa for adults' COMMANDS I go forth and do this...or I go to hell. It's kind of important. This invisible dude may command me to whip out other nations, sacrifice animals in a temple, etc. In all honesty, it would be way more "chill" if you would understand the ACTUAL power these different version of Invisible dude really are. Some times Invisible dude tells us to get rid of people that follow the Invisible dude of the same name...its a real trip.
@@brano2times Just noticed you changed your youtube profile pic. In the first one you are flipping off the camera, and now you are holding up two fingers. What caused the change - you just realized the the invisible god is watching, you realized religious people are watching, or you just did it for this post? Did the other invisible bad santa make you flip people off?
@@brano2times Interesting. The fear of "hell" is what gets the least amount of motivation to change a picture...after how long with flipping the bird? Your public facing consciences was still the more powerful motivator. The god you promote/demonstrate is one super weak cheese dude. You haven't even gotten into the being a good person yet. Let me guess at why, you were already so frustrated with people not following your personal version of invisible guy?
Amazing that you correct the mistakes that you have made in previous parts. You actually listen, admit, and change your mistakes. Unlike most on UA-cam.
@@Robespierre-lI If that were the case most religious channels would have to change what they say too because they all believe they are right, and that is not intellectually honest or accurate. You actually want a, "Rules for thee, and not for me," scenario.
I guess you should’ve been more specific. I’m just seeing this late, so I would be interested to know. Historical facts can be mistakes, religious believers don’t make mistakes. Be warned.😆
I am Syrian Orthodox and you represent the Eastern Christian Churches very well. You do the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox a great service. Thank you
My brother, I am Coptic Orthodox. Hello! I believe there was actually an inaccuracy in his explanation of our churches. I have a Coptic prayer app on my phone, and In the app, there is a prayer for confession. It says that his divinity made itself one with his humanity without mingling or confusion. To mingle means to mix. Forgive me, I am very likely wrong. God bless you.
@@tecumsehcristero And if we believe that Christ has one nature that is fully human and divine without mingling or confusion, we don't believe in a mix.
I’ve been looking for this explanation for my entire life. While it only begins to scratch the surface of the subject, it provides a clear structure to very complex lineages.
My mother was raised Lutheran. The Lutherans wouldn‘t do her wedding because my dad was divorced. It turns out my dad is a descendant of Martin Luther‘s brother. 😂
@@milobem4458 Oh yeah, humans are involved so they have divisions. There was/is Zoroastrian, Zurvanism, possibly Zandīks [extinct, and may have been another religion hiding as Zoroastrian], Mazdakism and split off Khurammites , Bihafaridhiyya, Muqanna, and others.
@@blazer9547 Most of Jewish torah/laws were already done before the Babylon captivity, although most of the commentary was later. The Zoroastrian Persians came afterward. 586-597 BC Pagan Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon conquers Jerusalem and Judah as prophesied. 522--330 BC Persian Achaemenid Empire becomes officially Zoroastrian religion instead of the fire worshipers magi before. 536 BC Zoroastrian Persian king Darius allows Hebrews/Jews to return & rebuild Hebrew temple in Jerusalem. 475 BC Zoroastrian Persian Haman, (he was a descendant of Agag, the king of the Amalekites who Isrealite Saul did not kill) tries to exterminate all Jews, memorialized in holiday Purim/book of Esther, he fails.
I'm not sure it is at all possible to do "Who wrote the Avestas" considering what we know. We can't place Zoroaster, if he did live, to a single *century,* and a good chunk of the Avestas has been lost. I think. Not entirely sure what the landscape in that particular academic field looks like.
amazing video. from someone who grew up pentecostal and looked into many many denominations before eventually coming home to the Catholic Church, I appreciate how absolutely thorough and academic this is. just incredible work!
I grew up in protestant central in the ozarks and somehow the Catholic Church has been calling me ever stronger. My greatest criticism of the god delusion would be Dawkins rushes past his problems with Aquinas quickly and I noticed it even in my most convinced atheism. You would love Redeemed Zoomer's "Every Christian Denomination in 15 minutes" For a prot he has some theological talent.
2:07:38 I don’t get why people continue to try to guess when Jesus will come back. It’s been tried so many times. And the Bible states in Matthew 24: 36-44 that no human shall know when he will return.
We don't know if he even returned in the lifetime of his followers as he promised he would. Turns out he was never the savior for the people that were alive. Maybe when he returned he was a failed messiah again.
Thank you for making this chart and you tube video. your research and collating this into one chart and the changes based off comments made have been so helpful for understanding the many churches existing today 👍
Interesting how many important words like denomination, species, country, or continent tend to be really hard to specifically define in practice, yet we all have a relatively good understanding of them. Great video anyway!
This is overwhelming - hard for me to find words! I was raised in an SDA family in Germany and had contacts to many groups of christians including LDS (mormons), JW, pentecostals, (buddhists), world wide church of god (Armstrong) etc. You really spent lots of time with these denominations and did a really great job! I really appreciate your work!
@@wendyleeconnelly2939 He stated that he would address pentecostal in another episode. Then he jumped right into Buddhism. (I'm pentecostal and looking forward to his take on it)
Omg Matt, I am a Jewish student teacher about to give my first ever lesson plan which is about the origins of Christianity and then a follow up of the early church. I know Christian history somewhat well from your videos and my courses, but the timing here is so helpful! Thank you!
@@MilaneseMoon Might want to see the UsefulCharts video on the history of Judaism, as there are quite a few different opinions on how Jewish law is to be interpreted and followed. I'm not Jewish so you're best checking his video. :-)
Excited about your interest in Zoroastrianism! A deep dive into 'Who wrote the Avestas' would be enlightening. Your series is a fantastic resource, and I share the hope that it never ends. Keep up the great work!
One point about the baptist split in 1845: it was not a difference of opinion about slavery. The baptist churches in the South felt like because they were under-represented at convention gatherings, which tended to take place in the North, specifically New York, so most Southern representatives couldn't make the journey. The split in 1845 in an effort to make sure the money they were contributing to missions would be used where they lived, particularly in missions work toward the native people in the South. The baptist churches in the South actually started the majority of religious abolition groups that existed before the split.
Matt, this is one of my favorite charts you've done. I especially like how in your original presentation you kept modifying the chart based on viewer feedback. It shows that you are responsive. Funny how everybody wants to pin their tail on your donkey - sometimes you found their tail to be relevant. This chart can be used as a roadmap to study how a idea, like a meme (e.g. method of baptism, Sabbatarianism, etc.) can move from one group to another. Memes don't need to flow through an org chart, but can appear spontaneously in one group and then jump (like being transported) across time and space to another apparently unrelated group. You've done a tremendous job here. Tx.
When did this Meme word come into common use? Never saw it in academia, only on the internet in recent decades. It's a ridiculous word without precision.
@@BlueBeeMCMLXIIt’s been used in parlance by some academics, but only since the term was introduced in “The Selfish Gene” by Richard Dawkins (which was published in the late 1970s if I’m remembering correctly). Some researchers (particularly in psychology I believe) have found it helpful in explaining societal and cultural evolution. There is more work by some researchers to focus on creating more empirical frameworks in memetics, to increase their usability in science studies.
Woww. Amazing job. You just summed up in a three hour crash course what some of us learn in many years of seminary and Bible College. Lol 😂 or maybe throughout our whole lives. Here I was a pastor for over 20 years, and studied all of this in depth.. though I’ve known most of this, I still learned a few things here and there. But though you just briefly touched on a few things, and didn’t go very deeply. But it’s still very informative! Everyone (especially Christians) need to watch this!! Phenomenal job! 👏🏽. I also studied Judaism in depth and Islam too very in depth (almost converted to Judaism too). Thanks for this!
This is by far the longest video I have ever watched on UA-cam! Fascinating! What would make this chart rock for me would be if at every schism there was a box leading to each side with a bullet point explaining the disagreement or reason for the break. I've learned so much from the video but am going to really struggle to remember without referring back regularly. Thanks for doing this!
The schisms are interesting. But to understand them properly actually requires quite a bit of historical context. There's often a superficial reason which functions as the official reason for the break, but the real story is more complicated and not emphasized by priests / pastors.
I really love that your doing this with your channel. This is one of the best ongoing series in this topic. I used to feel like I was the only “believer” who was interested in this history from an academic secular standpoint. This is awesome, keep up the great work.
I love charts like this that give us an overview of a topic. It leaves people the opportunity to investigate particular aspects without losing the big picture.
1:24:14 This is absolutely amazing. I have dedicated years of my life to the Flushing Remonstrance, because my last name is Thorn, and William Thorne is my 9th great grandfather. I never realized you talked about this here. I have been to Flushing, Queens myself to learn more about the Remonstrance. I am absolutely overjoyed by this.
As someone raised in the Churches of Christ (1906 edition), I gotta say that even in our obscurely small branch there were significant schisms that resulted in what I like to call "brotherhood" or "sisterhood" networks among CoCs, like the millennial interpretation of Revelation (e.g. Pre-millennial, Amillenial, and Post-millennial). These schisms were so religiously charged that back in the day someone from a pre-mil church would legit say that if you didn't believe in the pre-mil interpretation, you were lost and going to Hell. I also grew up hearing accounts of church splitting over communion/collection plate colors. Goes to show you that people will throw a fit about practically anything 😅
Thank you for representing the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in a welcoming and respectful light. I appreciate your efforts researching this video, and I love your Book of Mormon chart video as well. May God bless you and your family.
I really wish more Christians knew more about the history of their religion, Judaism, and the Israelite religion. Thank you for making this information accessible to the general public.
He said the history of the religion. That's not described in any of the biblical texts for the extremely obvious reason that they were all written before 250AD. @@Mark-sq1hj
@@Robespierre-lI I'm talking about the history also. I wish he knew more about the history of whatever his religion is and quit paying so much attention to someone else's religion unless he's considering becoming a part of it.
@@Mark-sq1hj why? Many religions have interesting histories and no the Bible has no mentioning of anything being talked about here old or new in fact much of the old testament stories ie moses or Noah are questioned by scholars and archaeologically to have happened as described or to be exaggerated stories
I really enjoyed this video! It was helpful in learning more about history. Quick note, the Gnostics didn't just "disappear" they were also killed (2nd-3rd century) by other Christians due to heresy (Irenaeus, 130-202 AD, was one of the major figures to declare it heresy later on as well). Their texts were burned, which is why we don't know much about it today, besides smaller surviving sects of it. I think it's important to note this, as no group has their "hands clean" in history. Plus, it's a personal fascination of mine and I wanted to share.
I hadn’t really paid attention to your videos after the second one as I was disappointed that the Russian Old Believers hadn’t been even mentioned. I didn’t know your charts were so dynamic and responsive to suggestions from UA-cam viewers. The community I live in has a large Russian Old Believer population as well as several other Christian denominations. Religion history is really interesting to me. Thank you for all your work on this!
Fun Quaker story, the Quaker Oats company once actually sued a small family farm in California called Quaker Oaks, which was actually owned by a Quaker. Just in case you needed more reasons to be upset with that company.
Woah! This is one in-depth, fantastic video about the breakdown of the churches. After watching the Open Door Baptist Church service this morning, I happened to see this on UA-cam. It is 3 hours long, but I thought I would only watch a little bit of it. I ended up watching the ENTIRE 3 hours of it all in one setting. It was amazing knowledge and explains a lot about the breakdowns of the different denominations of Christianity and churches. It also made me happy that my craving for learning is still intact. I was wondering about that lately, since life has been so monotonous. Makes me want to learn even more. 🙂 For several years, I always said that there are three major things to believe regarding Jesus Christ and whether or not you believe or have controversies in other segments of the Bible, as long as you believe this, it is what is important. Jesus Christ was born of a virgin and was half God. Jesus Christ died, innocent, on the cross to give us a blood sacrifice for our sins, everyone! Jesus Christ rose again after three days to conquer mankind’s worst curse, death, and is still living today. Watching this video, I want to include two things from Martin Luther, 1517 Reformer: Sola Fide: by Faith alone, relationship with Jesus with no other deeds Sola Scriptura: by Scripture alone, Bible is the ultimate authority My parents sacrificed and sent me to a Baptist School and a Wesleyan Methodist Church. I do not consider myself one specific denomination, but I thank the Lord for these good parents who gave me a good foundation. I believe in the existence of the Trinity as One but also as three parts, Individual. Just like humans, we have our physical, mental, and spiritual entities, all in one body, but each section has its own individuality. One thing that was not mentioned, but I am not surprised, was Intra-Denominational churches. I went to an Intra-Denominational church for 9 years, Fellowship of Love. It was wonderful that all of us from different denominations, even Catholic and Greek Orthodox, got together just to worship the Lord and the Bible. No one who had problems was turned away. Thank you for this video! Looking forward to watching more of them. PS I still wish you included the Davidians and others on the chart. Very knowledgeable to see where they fit in, even though we know their “Christianity” was extremely disgusting. And where does Jimmy Jones fit in the chart? Maybe you can do a video on the extremists and suicidal forms too?
Um... no. This is good, but professors of religion could give this speech with no prep and already know all of it. I'm a professor of something else entirely and could do the same. It's nice for UA-cam, but this isn't groundbreaking stuff.
@@jfo1740I think you misunderstood the Intent of the OP. In any event, this UA-camr is a religious studies PhD and this is part of his public education work. Obviously a religious studies 101 survey would bulk this out quite a bit. But as an OUTLINE for a historical survey of Christianity, sure. I think that's what the first commenter meant. I certainly would refer my undergraduate art history students to this if they asked me for a condensed outline of Christian sects. Sometimes they don't want a citation to a full-length text.
A compendium of amazing quantity and quality of scholarship. Congratulations and thanks. Parts of it remind me of Jonathon Swift's story about a country who went to civil war between one party insisting that boiled eggs should be cracked open from the round end, against the other party contending they must be cracked open from the pointy end.
@@Robespierre-lII’m Catholic and I don’t do this. Yes Catholicism is a true Church but it’s not The One True Church if you catch what I’m saying. By saying Catholicism is The One True Church you’re forgetting the fact that Judaism was around before Catholicism. The Catholic Church would not be be here if it weren’t for the Jewish people. I’m thankful to them for that. But I refuse to say it’s the One True Church.
47:00 What about the Celtic church before and after the arrival of St Augustine? Shouldn't that have been mentioned before the Reformation ? The difference between their calendars regarding Easter was a significant mini schism not mentioned so far, and what about the English Lollards or Mumblers as proto-Protestants? Maybe these things are mentioned or charted later in this complete video - I'm beginning Chapter 3.
Well, that's one of the best way to break it down...just a simple historical description of what it was and it is....By this virtue alone, it is a masterpiece....
Been going through rough and tough time for myself, specifically with my health. Listening to your videos has been helping me. Your voice is calm, and pleasant. I love listening to your videos. This is one of the most educational channels ever on UA-cam and I appreciate the depth of research you had gone through. They are all well constructed and explained. At night, I would play your videos and just close my eyes listening to your amazing lectures. You have taught me so much more about Abrahamic history than any of my local churches could. Thank you.
I’m a black Pentecostal Apostolic. The audio of tongues you played sounds quite different from what I speak and what I hear in the faith circles I’m affiliated with. This was a super interesting video!🔥
Nice chart. It would be neat to see another chart with specific Christian beliefs with each denomination checkmarked as holding or denying each specific belief. No doubt many denominations differ in one or two beliefs, some rather petty, but it would be interesting to see how each one adheres or varies displayed on a single chart.
This is what I'd be particularly interested in. And, between my upbringing and this video, I now understand that for most only care about specific tenets regardless of what is officially accepted. IOW, the ones they care about being followed is what, in their minds, makes people either a Christian or not a Christian regardless of the importance (or existence) of those things in scripture.
I'm glad I happened upon this. I appreciate your work. I used to own a book with a fold out chart which shows what each major denomination believes. At a glance I could see if they were Nicean, how people become members, baptism by immersion etc, beliefs on tithing vs donations, what they believe after death etc. I would love to see a program done like this. I@@RubelliteFae
Religious studies scholars pretty much never throw shade so his very slight snark aimed at Hubbard is quite something! It really is extremely difficult to take Hubbard seriously.
Joseph Smith should have also carried the same statement. Both creators can successfully control minds and tax-free millions. Probably make someone disappear too
A gargantuan undertaking - thank you. Some comments: a council is called to address a controversy/ heresy, e.g., Arianism was addressed at Nicaea; Nestorianism was addressed at Ephesus; Monophysitism was addressed at Chalcedon. Also, the other Apostles were quite active though they didn’t contribute much to the New Testament, e.g., Thomas went to India, Thaddeus & Jude went to the region of Armenia,& James went to Spain.
Holee sheet, I can't believe I actually sat down to watch through this for 3 hours straight! Jokes aside, this video has given me an immense insight into Christianity that no father, pastor or bishop has been able to before.
Speaking of Nestorianism, this branch of Christianity had a great influence on the Mongols and some of them were Nestorians, because Nestorian missionaries wandered through Central Asia. For this reason, when they appeared in the Middle East in the 13th century, there was a short-lived alliance between them and the crusaders.
Thank you Sir for this outstanding video on The History of the Christian Church. As it relates to the AME Zion; AME; CME there is a deeper history as to when they were formed. It would be advantageous to acquire the histories from each group. I do know that the AME ZION Ch has been in existence since 1796 New York City, 4/6/1784 is when the church recognized its first trustees,the name Zion was added to the denominational title in 1848. AME and CME, all histories again are found in the historical archives of the three denominations. Again thank you for your all inclusive comprehensive video. You are a God send
Thank you so much, this is so informative, I followed and downloaded all the episodes. Can you please, in another session, cover the different councils and what they discussed. Thanks again!
There are exceptions to the “one cathedral per diocese” rule! I grew up in the diocese of Houma-Thibodaux under the Archdiocese of New Orleans. There we had Co-Cathedrals. St. Francis in Houma and St. Joseph in Thibodaux
Greetings. Im not seeing where you identify the split/schism as it relates to the abandonment of the SeventhDay SHABBAT by the christians. There should also be in my mind a separation of the SEVENTH DAY BAPTISTS within the family tree of Baptists. Looking forward to your response. Peace
Maybe you can expand this chart into a full Abrahamic religions and their denominations family tree chart which includes the different sects of Judaism and Islam (and religions that branched out of both of them) that you tacked in previous videos. Technically, as the chart shows, you can group Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (along with other small traditions like the Samaritans, Mandaeans, Rastafari, Druze, Yazidis, Babis, Azalis, Baha'is, etc) into a single family of religions known as the Abrahamic religions because they all claim Abraham as their "common ancestor" (although Mandaeism does not consider Abraham, Moses, and Jesus as among their prophets, I think it still is considered an Abrahamic religion since it recognizes many figures also found in other Abrahamic traditions and it is considered to have originated from an early Christian Gnostic sect).
The Mandaeans are considered Gnostic and their status among Abrahamic religions is questionable. Although some scholars hold that Gnosticism has Jewish and Christian origin, and thus are Abrahamic, others claim an origin in either Zoroastrianism or Buddhism . So maybe, or maybe not. The Yazidis are classed as being one of the Iranian religions which are distinct from the Abrahamic religions. Apart from the Abrahamic religions the other major religious groupings are the Iranian religions, the Indian religions and the East Asian religions.
@@LawrenceEsq Gnostic was a bit of an umbrella term used by the orthodoxy against several early heretical faiths. They weren't like others we modernly call Gnostic; they were more concerned with baptism and claim older roots. As for Zoroastrianism, I don't know that we'd have any of the Abrahamic faiths (certainly not as we know them today) without Zoroastrian influence, particularly during Hebrew captivity in Babylon. Baha'i accepts the prophets of several religions including most of the Abrahamic prophets. So, to callit strictly Iranian or Indian is to misunderstand their faith. Also Rastafari doesn't fit into any of the categories you named. IDK about the others.
Man as someone who grew up Catholic bug doesn’t really practice anymore, these religion videos are just so interesting from a historical and archaeological perspective lmao
Wow this is really good. I just noticed that it's three hours long. I learned so much in the first 10 minutes. There's no way I'm going to not finish this but it might not be today.
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I greatly appreciate your honestly and accuracy in your portrayal of us! It’s hard to find people outside of my religion who can accurately tell me what it is we believe and who we are. Thank you!
This is probably the best video you've done and you have done so many great ones. I initially found you when looking up videos about Armstrongism to send to a friend after I told them I was in a cult (Intercontinental Church of God, founded by Garner Ted Armstrong, son of Herbert W. Armstrong). Since watching your Armstrongism video, I've been hooked on your content. Keep up the good work! I'd love to see a chart just on the Armstrong breakaway groups
I absolutely love these Charts! You are brilliant at it! I would like to add a disagreement with the Pentecost movements. You mentioned the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World as being in the Non Nicene category due to its rejection of the trinity. Often the “trinity” is assumed to be the accepted doctrine at that time and it was not. The Trinity embraced by the majority of historical Christianity was a development that took on a clearer definition in later church councils. The controversy at Nicea was over Arianism and Christology not the trinity. Many of the Bishops at the council had other Theological bents on Christology. One of them was a Modalist name Sabellius. He however gave definition (same nature) to theology of that time. His “same nature” theology added to the later development of the Trinity. Trinitarian doctrine added the piece of his teaching but rejected modalism. Sabellius and other like him accepted the nicene councils decree against Arianism but none of them were trinitarian yet as we now no it. That said, they all agreed to the father and the son and the same nature. The language three distinct co equal persons was not added until late. So if you are basing the oneness theology groups as out side of the nicene controversy you are mistaking. The trinity again, was a later development. At best you would need a category of 451 council and the later creeds to make that distinctions. The majority of oneness Pentecostals would agree to the nicene council unlike Jehovah witnesses and the other groups that clearly deny the divinity and nature of the Father and Son.
I just found this channel, and am smitten. I’m a super visual color-cody person who is going through a long phase of obsession with history and religion. Thank you for speaking the language and all of the obviously EXTENSIVE research! 💛
Another group you could put on here as one of those black and white symbols that represent groups that could be considered divergent from Christianity are the pilgrims of Arès. It’s a small religion that originated in France. A former orthodox priest who was living in the French village of Arès claims he talked to Jesus and wrote a book containing all of the teachings he says Jesus told him.
I grew up as Church of God Anderson and honestly had no idea why they was a separation between Anderson and Cleveland. This was FASCINATING. Thank you for putting this together.
I know this isnt related to the video but your videos are so good my country put the Evolution of the Alphabet chart on a STATE APROVED school book, and we learn from that book.
As a Christian I love how you take a neutral look at the faiths and present the facts, we need more people that are willing to speak with respect and present the historical facts of religious faiths.
The amount of research and information in your vidéos is astounding! As an atheist, I enjoy your videos very much as they're very informative about world history; and religions remain an important aspect of it! Thanks for your great work. From a fellow Canadian :)
The way you present these results of your studies is inspiring for me because of the way you speak of your investigative (forensical ?) process and procedures , combining a modular systems analysis that names each part of the system , uses the historical general timeline (chronolog) to coordinate and compare the (chronologously parallel) intervallic timelines representing the creation and genesis of each named node of the diagrammed relational map of the system network showing the relational paths that connect named individual primitive nodes nor nouned modular nodes related by the relational attribute shown in the network diagram : distinct positions on the map of the system indicates named nodes and nodal modules of the system distinct colours show historical nouned grupes of administratively regulated polities larger boxxes that encircle subsets of coloured boxxes seem to indicate distinct sets of affiliated philosophical beliefs about the nature of the relations between various aspects of personal entities commonly associated with principal social roles in the nouned congregational lives of church members the lines that join pairs of those nouned congregations indicate historically propagational relations between those congregations , relations of historical geographical relocation independent of whether or not the relocation was affected by philosophical changes at the times when the migratory propagations happened COOL ! That is some densely packed informatively presented data ! WOW !
This is absolutely amazing and explains the roots of something that indeed can become a universal "Christ" imo. Details that vary can be understood and tolerance can unite imo.
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Thanks for posting this video.
If you ever make a second edition of this chart, it would probably be relevant to include movements emerging in the wake of Demos Shakarian's Full Gospel Business Men's Fellowship International. Notably, these include the prosperity gospel (Oral Roberts and his followers) and the Branhamist movement (following William Branham and his disciples). Although these movements do not have large denominations that fit your requirements, as movements they largely pass these requirements and are very relevant (especially the prosperity gospel movement).
Another relevant addition would be the Tokoist Church, an offshoo6of the Kimbaguinist Church which you included.
My roommate and I got this chart, and it’s awesome! Thank you for creating this amazing work of art!
I got the chart, and was surprised by the quality of the poster material itself! i watched the videos as they came out, so i knew what to expect as far as content, but the paper you printed on was really nice and sturdy! i appreciate that quality greatly
My only tiny quibbles are, firstly, that Spiritism (not to be confused with Spiritualism) should have been acknowledged as another major post-Swedenborgian religious movement distinct from but ultimately descended from Christianity within the non-Nicene box, seeing as it is actually extremely popular in Brazil in particular; and secondly, that it would have been fun to include the Fujian Manichaeans as the other branch out of Gnosticism which survives to the present day, seeing as while the aesthetics of their practice have been influenced by attempting to remain undercover during the purges of the Song Dynasty against non-Buddhist groups, it is clear that they continue to revere Mani (originally an early Christian himself, although also heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism) as their primary religious figure.
Interestingly, the orthodox Pope is known in French as 'le pope', while the Catholic Pope is 'le pape'.
I couldn't sleep, so I started watching this, thinking it would knock me out quickly. Instead I learned the entire history of christian denominations
good luck with your insomnia
The history of cults*
@joey.99 Aww... what’s wrong? Did every christian denomination stole your lunch money at school? 😂😂😂
@@vh4990 no, they're just wrong. You shouldn't believe in something that has no truth/evidence to it.
Same.
I'd say this is, without hesitation, some of the best educational lecturing I've ever seen in my life. It's not only ridiculously good UA-cam content, it's just great material, unbelievably well presented. You explain these disparately-connected, sometimes-murky historical timelines in such a way that makes everything feel easy-breezy and digestible, while still maintaining nuance and breadth. You're infinitely clear and concise, not ever over explaining, gracefully walking us through complex histories without once tangling the web or losing the thread. Your steady tone is neither light nor heavy, and you somehow simplify without condescending. I'm in awe of your abilities. Thank you for this. (Not to mention the fucking _wildly_ beautiful chart, holy shit. Not florid, not cloying, not boring...just beautiful and instantly readable like the MTA Subway map. A triumph!)
Not to mention that, to my ears, it's presented with very little bias and in a way that respects every group without passing judgement on what they believe or the "correctness" of their beliefs and practices. Which, in a video where you are talking about every Christian denomination to ever exist, is an impressive feat on its own.
Really hope this religious studies series never ends, you're just too good at it
fr, i just came
The history videos are great too ❤
Then you need this stuff more than many...@@apxxg
By the time this study "ends" we will have arrived at Doomsday!
There won't be time to choose the right "CHURCH" that belongs to Jesus the founder of Christianity!
well, he's got a PhD in religious studies, so he's actually qualified in contrast to other UA-camrs floating in this space
Watch the 8 episodes: “not enough time”
Watch a single 3 hour episode: “yeah it’s only one episode”
I appreciate your continuous tweaking throughout after audience feedback! It shows your commitment to delivering the most accurate information possible.
Thanks again for making this wonderful series! What a wonderful resource for anyone who wants to study this issue. It really is the best chart in existence on this topic.
Hey “Ready FOR Harvest” 😂 Seriously thanks for your videos, I am an atheist but I love learning about Christianity from your channel thanks Joshua
I remember you did a video on various flaws in denomination charts sometime ago. May I ask what improvements you see in Matt's chart?
I believe a good chart is a hieroglyph. Worth a 1000 pictures.
@@caseycrowe3805 I was an atheist but all this religious content... Lots of good theology once you get past the mechanic mid husband chemist pterodactyl hunters and the Hovinds.
I still like logicked videos mostly.
I love the hive mind bringing ppl together.
This was very antichrist propaganda
What a devoted scholar! I can't believe I get to soak all of this in tuition free...his attention to detail is next-level, and his gracious adjustments after he is given feedback is endearing. His continued fine-tuning is indicative of the passion he has for his topic. So fortunate I stumbled across this 💚
The whole thing is a trip for sure. Watching which forms of magic are accepted from the perspective of those in their time period. In other words, god is the dude picked by our ancestors; giving some, a sense that god himself picked it. Yes, the bible taught slavery, and how to treat your slaves. I can't wait to see Christians pick that option again, because they will say the bible taught it.
@@brano2times My 'Invisible Santa for adults' COMMANDS I go forth and do this...or I go to hell. It's kind of important. This invisible dude may command me to whip out other nations, sacrifice animals in a temple, etc.
In all honesty, it would be way more "chill" if you would understand the ACTUAL power these different version of Invisible dude really are. Some times Invisible dude tells us to get rid of people that follow the Invisible dude of the same name...its a real trip.
@@brano2times Word Salad? Bless your heart.
@@brano2times Just noticed you changed your youtube profile pic. In the first one you are flipping off the camera, and now you are holding up two fingers.
What caused the change - you just realized the the invisible god is watching, you realized religious people are watching, or you just did it for this post?
Did the other invisible bad santa make you flip people off?
@@brano2times Interesting. The fear of "hell" is what gets the least amount of motivation to change a picture...after how long with flipping the bird?
Your public facing consciences was still the more powerful motivator.
The god you promote/demonstrate is one super weak cheese dude. You haven't even gotten into the being a good person yet. Let me guess at why, you were already so frustrated with people not following your personal version of invisible guy?
Amazing that you correct the mistakes that you have made in previous parts. You actually listen, admit, and change your mistakes. Unlike most on UA-cam.
If only there was quality control on UA-cam, scholars could have more influence setting higher standards for intellectual honesty and accuracy.
Ho hum
Uh... Ok
@@Robespierre-lI If that were the case most religious channels would have to change what they say too because they all believe they are right, and that is not intellectually honest or accurate. You actually want a, "Rules for thee, and not for me," scenario.
I guess you should’ve been more specific. I’m just seeing this late, so I would be interested to know. Historical facts can be mistakes, religious believers don’t make mistakes. Be warned.😆
🤯🤯🤯 Thank you! For 60 years I have studied what I could but you have explained more to me in 3 hours than I have gleaned in 6 decades. Bless you!!
UsefulCharts, Your videos always brighten my day, so I subscribed!
I am Syrian Orthodox and you represent the Eastern Christian Churches very well.
You do the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox a great service.
Thank you
Lies again? Help Company CDG Zig
My brother, I am Coptic Orthodox. Hello! I believe there was actually an inaccuracy in his explanation of our churches. I have a Coptic prayer app on my phone, and In the app, there is a prayer for confession. It says that his divinity made itself one with his humanity without mingling or confusion. To mingle means to mix. Forgive me, I am very likely wrong. God bless you.
@@mathan3559 I will rewatch the video.
But I would like to know what you disagree with in the video about our religion?
@@tecumsehcristero He said that we believe in one nature which is a MIX of full humanity and divinity.
@@tecumsehcristero And if we believe that Christ has one nature that is fully human and divine without mingling or confusion, we don't believe in a mix.
MATT BAKER, YOU ARE A LEGEND. This is such a wonderful gift to us all. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
Keep working , Baker .
You are doing good .
I’ve been looking for this explanation for my entire life. While it only begins to scratch the surface of the subject, it provides a clear structure to very complex lineages.
It’s really great how you update retroactively.
My mother was raised Lutheran. The Lutherans wouldn‘t do her wedding because my dad was divorced. It turns out my dad is a descendant of Martin Luther‘s brother. 😂
Can you do something like this on Zoroastrianism? Also, a "Who wrote the Avestas" would be extremely enlightening.
Are there many branches in Zoroastrianism?
@@milobem4458 Oh yeah, humans are involved so they have divisions.
There was/is Zoroastrian, Zurvanism, possibly Zandīks [extinct, and may have been another religion hiding as Zoroastrian], Mazdakism and split off Khurammites , Bihafaridhiyya, Muqanna, and others.
@@tommy-er6hhwow, I wonder how Judaism would differ if it didn't had Influences from zoroastrism.
@@blazer9547 Most of Jewish torah/laws were already done before the Babylon captivity, although most of the commentary was later. The Zoroastrian Persians came afterward.
586-597 BC Pagan Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon conquers Jerusalem and Judah as prophesied.
522--330 BC Persian Achaemenid Empire becomes officially Zoroastrian religion instead of the fire worshipers magi before.
536 BC Zoroastrian Persian king Darius allows Hebrews/Jews to return & rebuild Hebrew temple in Jerusalem.
475 BC Zoroastrian Persian Haman, (he was a descendant of Agag, the king of the Amalekites who Isrealite Saul did not kill) tries to exterminate all Jews, memorialized in holiday Purim/book of Esther, he fails.
I'm not sure it is at all possible to do "Who wrote the Avestas" considering what we know. We can't place Zoroaster, if he did live, to a single *century,* and a good chunk of the Avestas has been lost. I think. Not entirely sure what the landscape in that particular academic field looks like.
amazing video. from someone who grew up pentecostal and looked into many many denominations before eventually coming home to the Catholic Church, I appreciate how absolutely thorough and academic this is.
just incredible work!
I grew up in protestant central in the ozarks and somehow the Catholic Church has been calling me ever stronger. My greatest criticism of the god delusion would be Dawkins rushes past his problems with Aquinas quickly and I noticed it even in my most convinced atheism.
You would love Redeemed Zoomer's "Every Christian Denomination in 15 minutes" For a prot he has some theological talent.
This is deceptive in some ways against Catholic church.. The leadership and why the called Catholic
Wow and I'm the opposite...I left catholic church for pentecostal church
The Catholic Church worships humans and idols
@@Woodstock-53 may you find your way home :)
2:07:38 I don’t get why people continue to try to guess when Jesus will come back. It’s been tried so many times. And the Bible states in Matthew 24: 36-44 that no human shall know when he will return.
We don't know if he even returned in the lifetime of his followers as he promised he would. Turns out he was never the savior for the people that were alive. Maybe when he returned he was a failed messiah again.
Newsflash: He’s not coming back. 😂
Thank you for making this chart and you tube video. your research and collating this into one chart and the changes based off comments made have been so helpful for understanding the many churches existing today 👍
¡Gracias!
Interesting how many important words like denomination, species, country, or continent tend to be really hard to specifically define in practice, yet we all have a relatively good understanding of them. Great video anyway!
This is overwhelming - hard for me to find words! I was raised in an SDA family in Germany and had contacts to many groups of christians including LDS (mormons), JW, pentecostals, (buddhists), world wide church of god (Armstrong) etc. You really spent lots of time with these denominations and did a really great job! I really appreciate your work!
Sounds cool. But I'm super confused about how you put Buddhists in the list alongside Pentecostal unless I misunderstood
Buddhism is not a group of Christians. Simply, Buddhism is the only religion that does not believe God as a creator.
@@wendyleeconnelly2939 He stated that he would address pentecostal in another episode. Then he jumped right into Buddhism. (I'm pentecostal and looking forward to his take on it)
Omg Matt, I am a Jewish student teacher about to give my first ever lesson plan which is about the origins of Christianity and then a follow up of the early church. I know Christian history somewhat well from your videos and my courses, but the timing here is so helpful! Thank you!
Wait, you’re allowed to use omg??
@@MilaneseMoon Might want to see the UsefulCharts video on the history of Judaism, as there are quite a few different opinions on how Jewish law is to be interpreted and followed. I'm not Jewish so you're best checking his video. :-)
Cool, is this going to be in a secular school setting or yeshiva?
You just took the Lord’s name in vain.
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Excited about your interest in Zoroastrianism! A deep dive into 'Who wrote the Avestas' would be enlightening. Your series is a fantastic resource, and I share the hope that it never ends. Keep up the great work!
One point about the baptist split in 1845: it was not a difference of opinion about slavery. The baptist churches in the South felt like because they were under-represented at convention gatherings, which tended to take place in the North, specifically New York, so most Southern representatives couldn't make the journey. The split in 1845 in an effort to make sure the money they were contributing to missions would be used where they lived, particularly in missions work toward the native people in the South. The baptist churches in the South actually started the majority of religious abolition groups that existed before the split.
I can't believe this lasted only 3 short hours, I could have listened to you ALL day and wanted more. Excellent work, excellent! 👏👏👏👏👏
I've been praying for this work! Amazing scholarship, crazy timing for me!
Matt, this is one of my favorite charts you've done. I especially like how in your original presentation you kept modifying the chart based on viewer feedback. It shows that you are responsive. Funny how everybody wants to pin their tail on your donkey - sometimes you found their tail to be relevant. This chart can be used as a roadmap to study how a idea, like a meme (e.g. method of baptism, Sabbatarianism, etc.) can move from one group to another. Memes don't need to flow through an org chart, but can appear spontaneously in one group and then jump (like being transported) across time and space to another apparently unrelated group. You've done a tremendous job here. Tx.
Yeah he's been wrong before hopefully he gets humbled by it and repents of his sins in Jesus name i pray for him and for all those who view his work
@@johnrevelation37what does this even mean...
When did this Meme word come into common use? Never saw it in academia, only on the internet in recent decades. It's a ridiculous word without precision.
@@johnrevelation37The level of arrogance in your comment is off the charts. Great job setting the bar to a new level 👍
@@BlueBeeMCMLXIIt’s been used in parlance by some academics, but only since the term was introduced in “The Selfish Gene” by Richard Dawkins (which was published in the late 1970s if I’m remembering correctly). Some researchers (particularly in psychology I believe) have found it helpful in explaining societal and cultural evolution. There is more work by some researchers to focus on creating more empirical frameworks in memetics, to increase their usability in science studies.
Woww. Amazing job. You just summed up in a three hour crash course what some of us learn in many years of seminary and Bible College. Lol 😂 or maybe throughout our whole lives. Here I was a pastor for over 20 years, and studied all of this in depth.. though I’ve known most of this, I still learned a few things here and there. But though you just briefly touched on a few things, and didn’t go very deeply. But it’s still very informative! Everyone (especially Christians) need to watch this!! Phenomenal job! 👏🏽. I also studied Judaism in depth and Islam too very in depth (almost converted to Judaism too). Thanks for this!
At last! Thank you for explaining a complex topic in such an easy-to-follow way.
This is by far the longest video I have ever watched on UA-cam! Fascinating! What would make this chart rock for me would be if at every schism there was a box leading to each side with a bullet point explaining the disagreement or reason for the break. I've learned so much from the video but am going to really struggle to remember without referring back regularly. Thanks for doing this!
I had a 6-hour history of Eve Online (Down the Rabbit Hole) on and had to take a break from it and ended up here 😆
The schisms are interesting. But to understand them properly actually requires quite a bit of historical context. There's often a superficial reason which functions as the official reason for the break, but the real story is more complicated and not emphasized by priests / pastors.
I really love that your doing this with your channel. This is one of the best ongoing series in this topic. I used to feel like I was the only “believer” who was interested in this history from an academic secular standpoint. This is awesome, keep up the great work.
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@@YajunYuanSDA How are you doing my friend?
I love charts like this that give us an overview of a topic. It leaves people the opportunity to investigate particular aspects without losing the big picture.
1:24:14 This is absolutely amazing. I have dedicated years of my life to the Flushing Remonstrance, because my last name is Thorn, and William Thorne is my 9th great grandfather. I never realized you talked about this here. I have been to Flushing, Queens myself to learn more about the Remonstrance. I am absolutely overjoyed by this.
As someone raised in the Churches of Christ (1906 edition), I gotta say that even in our obscurely small branch there were significant schisms that resulted in what I like to call "brotherhood" or "sisterhood" networks among CoCs, like the millennial interpretation of Revelation (e.g. Pre-millennial, Amillenial, and Post-millennial). These schisms were so religiously charged that back in the day someone from a pre-mil church would legit say that if you didn't believe in the pre-mil interpretation, you were lost and going to Hell. I also grew up hearing accounts of church splitting over communion/collection plate colors. Goes to show you that people will throw a fit about practically anything 😅
Thank you so very much for combining all of the separate videos!
Thank you for representing the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in a welcoming and respectful light. I appreciate your efforts researching this video, and I love your Book of Mormon chart video as well. May God bless you and your family.
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Thanks for the charts and lesson Matt! You’re truly amazing. I wish the best for you and your family
I really wish more Christians knew more about the history of their religion, Judaism, and the Israelite religion. Thank you for making this information accessible to the general public.
It's told in the old testament and then the new testament.
He said the history of the religion. That's not described in any of the biblical texts for the extremely obvious reason that they were all written before 250AD. @@Mark-sq1hj
@@Robespierre-lI I'm talking about the history also. I wish he knew more about the history of whatever his religion is and quit paying so much attention to someone else's religion unless he's considering becoming a part of it.
@@Mark-sq1hj why? Many religions have interesting histories and no the Bible has no mentioning of anything being talked about here old or new in fact much of the old testament stories ie moses or Noah are questioned by scholars and archaeologically to have happened as described or to be exaggerated stories
I think he forgot the Black Hebrew Israelites!
I really enjoyed this video! It was helpful in learning more about history. Quick note, the Gnostics didn't just "disappear" they were also killed (2nd-3rd century) by other Christians due to heresy (Irenaeus, 130-202 AD, was one of the major figures to declare it heresy later on as well). Their texts were burned, which is why we don't know much about it today, besides smaller surviving sects of it. I think it's important to note this, as no group has their "hands clean" in history. Plus, it's a personal fascination of mine and I wanted to share.
This is such an amazing tool for understanding. Thank you! I really admire your patience and attention to detail here
I hadn’t really paid attention to your videos after the second one as I was disappointed that the Russian Old Believers hadn’t been even mentioned. I didn’t know your charts were so dynamic and responsive to suggestions from UA-cam viewers. The community I live in has a large Russian Old Believer population as well as several other Christian denominations. Religion history is really interesting to me. Thank you for all your work on this!
Brilliant! I've been looking for something like this for years. Thank you for putting this together!
I watched this entire video in one morning. Excellent work UsefulCharts!
This is so clear and understandable. You explain soooo well. Thank you!
YES I’ve been waiting for months for this thank you Useful Charts
Fun Quaker story, the Quaker Oats company once actually sued a small family farm in California called Quaker Oaks, which was actually owned by a Quaker. Just in case you needed more reasons to be upset with that company.
who won the suit?
The most useful chart on this entire channel.
Appreciate you getting the Church of the Brethren section correct, with heavy ties to the anabaptists, in addition to the pietists. Well done
Woah!
This is one in-depth, fantastic video about the breakdown of the churches.
After watching the Open Door Baptist Church service this morning, I happened to see this on UA-cam. It is 3 hours long, but I thought I would only watch a little bit of it. I ended up watching the ENTIRE 3 hours of it all in one setting. It was amazing knowledge and explains a lot about the breakdowns of the different denominations of Christianity and churches.
It also made me happy that my craving for learning is still intact. I was wondering about that lately, since life has been so monotonous. Makes me want to learn even more. 🙂
For several years, I always said that there are three major things to believe regarding Jesus Christ and whether or not you believe or have controversies in other segments of the Bible, as long as you believe this, it is what is important.
Jesus Christ was born of a virgin and was half God.
Jesus Christ died, innocent, on the cross to give us a blood sacrifice for our sins, everyone!
Jesus Christ rose again after three days to conquer mankind’s worst curse, death, and is still living today.
Watching this video, I want to include two things from Martin Luther, 1517 Reformer:
Sola Fide: by Faith alone, relationship with Jesus with no other deeds
Sola Scriptura: by Scripture alone, Bible is the ultimate authority
My parents sacrificed and sent me to a Baptist School and a Wesleyan Methodist Church. I do not consider myself one specific denomination, but I thank the Lord for these good parents who gave me a good foundation. I believe in the existence of the Trinity as One but also as three parts, Individual. Just like humans, we have our physical, mental, and spiritual entities, all in one body, but each section has its own individuality.
One thing that was not mentioned, but I am not surprised, was Intra-Denominational churches. I went to an Intra-Denominational church for 9 years, Fellowship of Love. It was wonderful that all of us from different denominations, even Catholic and Greek Orthodox, got together just to worship the Lord and the Bible. No one who had problems was turned away.
Thank you for this video! Looking forward to watching more of them.
PS I still wish you included the Davidians and others on the chart. Very knowledgeable to see where they fit in, even though we know their “Christianity” was extremely disgusting. And where does Jimmy Jones fit in the chart? Maybe you can do a video on the extremists and suicidal forms too?
I could see a college professor basing an entire course on exploring this series and chart.
Um... no. This is good, but professors of religion could give this speech with no prep and already know all of it. I'm a professor of something else entirely and could do the same. It's nice for UA-cam, but this isn't groundbreaking stuff.
@@jfo1740no I think she meant to pause on each denomination and present a more thorough explanation
@@jfo1740I think you misunderstood the Intent of the OP.
In any event, this UA-camr is a religious studies PhD and this is part of his public education work. Obviously a religious studies 101 survey would bulk this out quite a bit.
But as an OUTLINE for a historical survey of Christianity, sure. I think that's what the first commenter meant.
I certainly would refer my undergraduate art history students to this if they asked me for a condensed outline of Christian sects. Sometimes they don't want a citation to a full-length text.
I don’t want to sound repetitive here, but I’m a huge fan of this channel. Amazing work Mr. Baker!
A compendium of amazing quantity and quality of scholarship. Congratulations and thanks.
Parts of it remind me of Jonathon Swift's story about a country who went to civil war between one party insisting that boiled eggs should be cracked open from the round end, against the other party contending they must be cracked open from the pointy end.
I’m at 2hrs and 14min your academic approach is convincing me more and more to convert to Catholicism ! TY for doing this BTW! Very enlightening to me
We have problems but it’s the True Church.
@@theomegaman218Heh...
I think Matt might be a little surprised to hear that his attempt to present a very neutral account led to any conversions.
@@theomegaman218I really don't care either way, but why do Catholics do this kind of thing? Do you not see the arrogance in this kind of claim?
@@Robespierre-lII’m Catholic and I don’t do this. Yes Catholicism is a true Church but it’s not The One True Church if you catch what I’m saying. By saying Catholicism is The One True Church you’re forgetting the fact that Judaism was around before Catholicism. The Catholic Church would not be be here if it weren’t for the Jewish people. I’m thankful to them for that. But I refuse to say it’s the One True Church.
47:00 What about the Celtic church before and after the arrival of St Augustine? Shouldn't that have been mentioned before the Reformation ? The difference between their calendars regarding Easter was a significant mini schism not mentioned so far,
and what about the English Lollards or Mumblers as proto-Protestants? Maybe these things are mentioned or charted later in this complete video - I'm beginning Chapter 3.
Well, that's one of the best way to break it down...just a simple historical description of what it was and it is....By this virtue alone, it is a masterpiece....
Been going through rough and tough time for myself, specifically with my health. Listening to your videos has been helping me. Your voice is calm, and pleasant. I love listening to your videos. This is one of the most educational channels ever on UA-cam and I appreciate the depth of research you had gone through. They are all well constructed and explained. At night, I would play your videos and just close my eyes listening to your amazing lectures. You have taught me so much more about Abrahamic history than any of my local churches could. Thank you.
Terry Jones once stated " Jesus told us to love each other, and we've spent 2,000 years killing each other over how he meant it"
Why did you skip on the Armenian Apostolic Church?
I’m a black Pentecostal Apostolic. The audio of tongues you played sounds quite different from what I speak and what I hear in the faith circles I’m affiliated with. This was a super interesting video!🔥
3 hours on a Friday night and I watch the whole thing! Love your videos!
Nice chart. It would be neat to see another chart with specific Christian beliefs with each denomination checkmarked as holding or denying each specific belief. No doubt many denominations differ in one or two beliefs, some rather petty, but it would be interesting to see how each one adheres or varies displayed on a single chart.
This is what I'd be particularly interested in.
And, between my upbringing and this video, I now understand that for most only care about specific tenets regardless of what is officially accepted. IOW, the ones they care about being followed is what, in their minds, makes people either a Christian or not a Christian regardless of the importance (or existence) of those things in scripture.
I'm glad I happened upon this. I appreciate your work. I used to own a book with a fold out chart which shows what each major denomination believes. At a glance I could see if they were Nicean, how people become members, baptism by immersion etc, beliefs on tithing vs donations, what they believe after death etc. I would love to see a program done like this. I@@RubelliteFae
2:44:36 He throws so much shade when he says L. Ron Hubbard made the whole thing up from scratch 😂 I love it
@GrowingUpInScientology
Gotta say, I chuckled.
Nah ... I laughed out loud!
Religious studies scholars pretty much never throw shade so his very slight snark aimed at Hubbard is quite something!
It really is extremely difficult to take Hubbard seriously.
and i like where he said that christian science actually has very little to do with science
Joseph Smith should have also carried the same statement. Both creators can successfully control minds and tax-free millions. Probably make someone disappear too
absolutely stunning and connects the dots of what I've been self studying for 25 years Thank YOU for all your hard work !
A gargantuan undertaking - thank you. Some comments: a council is called to address a controversy/ heresy, e.g., Arianism was addressed at Nicaea; Nestorianism was addressed at Ephesus; Monophysitism was addressed at Chalcedon. Also, the other Apostles were quite active though they didn’t contribute much to the New Testament, e.g., Thomas went to India, Thaddeus & Jude went to the region of Armenia,& James went to Spain.
Holee sheet, I can't believe I actually sat down to watch through this for 3 hours straight!
Jokes aside, this video has given me an immense insight into Christianity that no father, pastor or bishop has been able to before.
Speaking of Nestorianism, this branch of Christianity had a great influence on the Mongols and some of them were Nestorians, because Nestorian missionaries wandered through Central Asia. For this reason, when they appeared in the Middle East in the 13th century, there was a short-lived alliance between them and the crusaders.
Thank you Sir for this outstanding video on The History of the Christian Church.
As it relates to the AME Zion; AME; CME there is a deeper history as to when they were formed. It would be advantageous to acquire the histories from each group.
I do know that the AME ZION Ch has been in existence since 1796 New York City, 4/6/1784 is when the church recognized its first trustees,the name Zion was added to the denominational title in 1848.
AME and CME, all histories again are found in the historical archives of the three denominations.
Again thank you for your all inclusive comprehensive video. You are a God send
Thanks!
Beautifully done. An excellent geneology of religion! A lot of work and though went into this chart.
Thank you so much, this is so informative, I followed and downloaded all the episodes.
Can you please, in another session, cover the different councils and what they discussed. Thanks again!
There are exceptions to the “one cathedral per diocese” rule! I grew up in the diocese of Houma-Thibodaux under the Archdiocese of New Orleans. There we had Co-Cathedrals. St. Francis in Houma and St. Joseph in Thibodaux
Fabulous!!! This was a lot of work to put together!
I'm impressed.
Well done!
God Speed.
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Greetings. Im not seeing where you identify the split/schism as it relates to the abandonment of the SeventhDay SHABBAT by the christians. There should also be in my mind a separation of the SEVENTH DAY BAPTISTS within the family tree of Baptists. Looking forward to your response. Peace
Maybe you can expand this chart into a full Abrahamic religions and their denominations family tree chart which includes the different sects of Judaism and Islam (and religions that branched out of both of them) that you tacked in previous videos. Technically, as the chart shows, you can group Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (along with other small traditions like the Samaritans, Mandaeans, Rastafari, Druze, Yazidis, Babis, Azalis, Baha'is, etc) into a single family of religions known as the Abrahamic religions because they all claim Abraham as their "common ancestor" (although Mandaeism does not consider Abraham, Moses, and Jesus as among their prophets, I think it still is considered an Abrahamic religion since it recognizes many figures also found in other Abrahamic traditions and it is considered to have originated from an early Christian Gnostic sect).
Sikhism as well.
The Mandaeans are considered Gnostic and their status among Abrahamic religions is questionable. Although some scholars hold that Gnosticism has Jewish and Christian origin, and thus are Abrahamic, others claim an origin in either Zoroastrianism or Buddhism . So maybe, or maybe not. The Yazidis are classed as being one of the Iranian religions which are distinct from the Abrahamic religions. Apart from the Abrahamic religions the other major religious groupings are the Iranian religions, the Indian religions and the East Asian religions.
@@LawrenceEsq Gnostic was a bit of an umbrella term used by the orthodoxy against several early heretical faiths. They weren't like others we modernly call Gnostic; they were more concerned with baptism and claim older roots.
As for Zoroastrianism, I don't know that we'd have any of the Abrahamic faiths (certainly not as we know them today) without Zoroastrian influence, particularly during Hebrew captivity in Babylon.
Baha'i accepts the prophets of several religions including most of the Abrahamic prophets. So, to callit strictly Iranian or Indian is to misunderstand their faith.
Also Rastafari doesn't fit into any of the categories you named. IDK about the others.
Man as someone who grew up Catholic bug doesn’t really practice anymore, these religion videos are just so interesting from a historical and archaeological perspective lmao
You ever seen any of those UA-cam channels like Catholic talk show, Pints with Aquinas, Catholic answers etc?
Wow this is really good. I just noticed that it's three hours long. I learned so much in the first 10 minutes. There's no way I'm going to not finish this but it might not be today.
I'm back to try and finish this now.
Well done! Keep up this great work
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I greatly appreciate your honestly and accuracy in your portrayal of us! It’s hard to find people outside of my religion who can accurately tell me what it is we believe and who we are. Thank you!
This is probably the best video you've done and you have done so many great ones. I initially found you when looking up videos about Armstrongism to send to a friend after I told them I was in a cult (Intercontinental Church of God, founded by Garner Ted Armstrong, son of Herbert W. Armstrong). Since watching your Armstrongism video, I've been hooked on your content. Keep up the good work! I'd love to see a chart just on the Armstrong breakaway groups
If every Christian in the world buys a poster, please don’t stop making this kinda of content. Your work is a true testament.
I absolutely love these Charts! You are brilliant at it! I would like to add a disagreement with the Pentecost movements. You mentioned the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World as being in the Non Nicene category due to its rejection of the trinity. Often the “trinity” is assumed to be the accepted doctrine at that time and it was not. The Trinity embraced by the majority of historical Christianity was a development that took on a clearer definition in later church councils. The controversy at Nicea was over Arianism and Christology not the trinity. Many of the Bishops at the council had other Theological bents on Christology. One of them was a Modalist name Sabellius. He however gave definition (same nature) to theology of that time. His “same nature” theology added to the later development of the Trinity. Trinitarian doctrine added the piece of his teaching but rejected modalism. Sabellius and other like him accepted the nicene councils decree against Arianism but none of them were trinitarian yet as we now no it. That said, they all agreed to the father and the son and the same nature. The language three distinct co equal persons was not added until late. So if you are basing the oneness theology groups as out side of the nicene controversy you are mistaking. The trinity again, was a later development. At best you would need a category of 451 council and the later creeds to make that distinctions. The majority of oneness Pentecostals would agree to the nicene council unlike Jehovah witnesses and the other groups that clearly deny the divinity and nature of the Father and Son.
Interesting!
I just found this channel, and am smitten. I’m a super visual color-cody person who is going through a long phase of obsession with history and religion.
Thank you for speaking the language and all of the obviously EXTENSIVE research! 💛
Hey Matt Baker...can I ask you what your sources are for this very detailed information about church history?
Great work as always, thank you very much. 🧡
Someone should make a chart about the history of charts made by Matt 📊
Yeah
The fact that this triumph of a chart and video was done so perfectly by. Jewish person, is remarkable.
10/10. Excellent. Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷
Really shows how fake of a country Macedonia is too..
He converted from Christianity to Judaism
@@gloveses So he's Messianic or does he denounce Jesus and the Resurrection? That's dangerous territory for any believer.
@@DanMorgan-bh5fv if you listen to his Jewish denominations video he explains at the end what kind of Judaism he follows
@@DanMorgan-bh5fv why is it dangerous
13:15 also, the “Great Church” had many Greek elements, such as a god that had no body parts or passions. That’s a Greek idea.
I see the usefulness of these charts.
Another group you could put on here as one of those black and white symbols that represent groups that could be considered divergent from Christianity are the pilgrims of Arès.
It’s a small religion that originated in France. A former orthodox priest who was living in the French village of Arès claims he talked to Jesus and wrote a book containing all of the teachings he says Jesus told him.
I grew up as Church of God Anderson and honestly had no idea why they was a separation between Anderson and Cleveland. This was FASCINATING. Thank you for putting this together.
I know this isnt related to the video but your videos are so good my country put the Evolution of the Alphabet chart on a STATE APROVED school book, and we learn from that book.
What country?
@@UsefulCharts Romania
@@SomeoneOrthodox I hoped they double checked it to make sure it was correct.
@@watermelonlalalaof course it's correct. My God, what kind of PhD do you think Matt is?
Honey wake up, Useful charts just dropped a 3 hour banger history video
This is incredible. I appreciate the massive amount of work that's gone in to this. Amazing work, thank you!
These videos and these charts are just fantastic! Thank you!
Oooooh! Another greatest hits compilation!!!
As a Christian I love how you take a neutral look at the faiths and present the facts, we need more people that are willing to speak with respect and present the historical facts of religious faiths.
The amount of research and information in your vidéos is astounding! As an atheist, I enjoy your videos very much as they're very informative about world history; and religions remain an important aspect of it! Thanks for your great work. From a fellow Canadian :)
I've been scrolling down and looking for an Athiest. I wanted to ask you what you think about all the hard-core atheists that turned to Christianity?
The way you present these results of your studies is inspiring for me because of the way you speak of your investigative (forensical ?) process and procedures , combining a modular systems analysis that names each part of the system , uses the historical general timeline (chronolog) to coordinate and compare the (chronologously parallel) intervallic timelines representing the creation and genesis of each named node of the diagrammed relational map of the system network showing the relational paths that connect named individual primitive nodes nor nouned modular nodes related by the relational attribute shown in the network diagram :
distinct positions on the map of the system indicates named nodes and nodal modules of the system
distinct colours show historical nouned grupes of administratively regulated polities
larger boxxes that encircle subsets of coloured boxxes seem to indicate distinct sets of affiliated philosophical beliefs about the nature of the relations between various aspects of personal entities commonly associated with principal social roles in the nouned congregational lives of church members
the lines that join pairs of those nouned congregations indicate historically propagational relations between those congregations , relations of historical geographical relocation independent of whether or not the relocation was affected by philosophical changes at the times when the migratory propagations happened
COOL ! That is some densely packed informatively presented data ! WOW !
This is absolutely amazing and explains the roots of something that indeed can become a universal "Christ" imo. Details that vary can be understood and tolerance can unite imo.
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