I'm not a ford fan but the Raptor looked rad getting in the front seat. Love the whole look inside. It looked like a comfortable ride yet capable. v6 power is always a plus over a 4 banger sound.
Zr2 bison for me. Can’t beat steal bumpers, full underside skid plates, sliders, and full lockers with 35s. Wish it had just a straight 6 cylinder engine though.
I have the regular zr2 and I agree, even if I had to lose a few HP a diesel i6 with peak torque coming earlier in the power can and fuel economy would make the zr2 a perfect overlander.
@@nm-qt2hb The 3.0 doesn't burn oil nor does it use a lot of DEF fluid. GM put out a TSB a while ago with a redesigned valve cover that fixes the oil usage on the LM2. The original valve cover had a defective internal weld that the supplier and GM didn't detect. Once the new valve cover is installed, the oil consumption goes away completely. New LZ0 engines that have had oil catch cans fitted by owners show basically no engine oil being carried into the intake after being in place for 1000+ miles. Even if those catch cans showed a bit of oil, it's far less than the 1 quart every 1200 miles that Toyota's warranty states is normal oil consumption.
ZR2 Bison for me, hands down. Most aggressive looking, over a foot of ground clearance, f/r lockers, jounce control, steel bumpers/skids, underbody cam, and on 35s. This is the most exciting video you've put out in quite a while!
Agree it is really good looking! I probably could not get in it with those 35's! I don't do much offroading so the Raptor appeals to me from a performance standpoint!
@@planoman0935It's all relative. All of these trucks are overpriced..however you get more with Bison than the other two. In my opinion, the only thing Ford has over the Chevy is the horsepower..fun..but not a necessity when going down off-road trails and over rocks, ect.
@@TREVORJB101 I am just observing comments. I don't think most commenters saw the price of 65K+ for the Bison in this video. There are more comments on price for the Tacoma and it was the least expensive in the group and completed the course just fine. I think the Ranger and the Bison look great! I would likely go for the Ranger if I didn't have a Tacoma and I have checked the prices and you ain't getting one for under 60+ with markups in Dallas! Also interested to see how they all retain their value in a few years. Everyone loves their truck when they are new!
Yup! about 6 weeks ago I picked up a loaded w/moonroof 2024 in blue. With 700mi on the clock I took it to Moab for 3 days wheeling, and did a 1/2 day last Saturday in CO. I'm a noob offroader (though I've "softroaded" my 2010 AWD V6 since new), and the capability of the truck is amazing, makes a noob like me feel a LOT more confident.
Like the interior of the Raptor better than the ZR2, but like the exterior of the ZR2 more than Raptor. Like Tim said I’d like piece of each put into one unit. 😬
@@kx8960 true. I just picked up the AT4 for $47,500 and I drive a lot. So the comfort seats and soft touch materials matter to me. Vented seats And leather. Dealer here gives lifetime power train warranty and an extra $25/month got 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty going GMC over local Chevy dealer..
You can take that 10k and put into other things and be fine. Can’t believe the Bisoon doesn’t have a bigger engin. Wish it had the twin turbo that early over sea models got.
The distinct difference in the Tacoma vs Raptor in the mud comes down to tires. Stock tires on Raptor are much more capable, but it’s nothing that the same tire on the Taco couldn’t fix.
The one thing Toyota/Nissan have going for them is that they offer a 6' box on their midsize trucks. That's a total game changer. I have no idea why the domestic brands fumbled the ball on that. Toyota is going to sell a TON of the Trailhunter trims because of that 6' bed.
@@robertopicsyup (but some of us would rather have a longer bed and less passenger room for the same packaging!) I think an f150 is still 5 or 6” longer than a dclb midsize btw which isn’t a lot but if you live in a big city it makes a difference for parking in tight spaces
Love my '21 Ranger fx4, built it similar to a raptor. 2.3 turbo with the 10 speed hauls butt. Superior payload and tow capacity. I think the lady's grin speaks for it. I'd try out the Raptor. Great video comparison. Thank you for sharing. (I totally agree about the lack of pillar handles)
Okay, the Bison is a great looking truck but for $63,000 to more than $66,000 depending on spec what do you really get over the base ZR2? Unlike the Raptor which gives you an engine you can't get in any other Ranger at least right now the Bison has the same engine that comes standard in the ZR2. Although a Chevy engineer at the Johnson Valley Chevy event did say the shocks were re-tuned for the added weight of the wheels and added accessories he also said the springs were the same as on the ZR2 which is why they used the Multimatic jounce control stops as secondary dampers. The Raptor at least has a unique suspension and the TRD Pro will as well. As pointed out in the video the Bison only has 1001 pounds of payload. This will be fine for ninety eight percent of buyers for any of these trucks as they are almost all going to do little more than pick up the occasional bag of mulch at Home Depot and drive it to the back yard flower bed. But for someone actually planning to off road and camp 1000 pounds is cutting it pretty thin. Not to mention there's a spare tire taking up part of the little bed space you have in these crew cab short beds. AEV also makes their own version of the Bison in which they re-gear to 4.10's for the larger and heavier BF Goodrich tires they put on it and they add tie rod stiffeners so you don't twist the stock ones up while trying to turn and climb at the same time. The Chevy version does not have upgraded tie rods and comes with the same 3.42 gears every other Colorado gets. In addition to this the actual AEV version comes with all the same things as the Chevy version and all for $11,999. Chevy's Bison package comes in at $11,700. So for just $299 more you get a stronger truck with better gearing. No word on the payload but seeing as they don't list doing much of anything with the rest of the truck I guess it would be roughly the same. The base ZR2 for right around 50K is the bargain off road midsize truck you want. The Ranger Raptor is actually the best overall performance value considering the unique engine for the price. People have no idea what they are talking about with the ZR2 and the Raptor being desert runners and not tough off roaders. Wheel travel, low end and slow speed control, lockers, overall clearances as well as armor make any truck a tough off roader. Watch any Australian Ranger Raptor video. It never takes a back seat to any brand in any situation. The Bison is a ZR2 with after market skids and a leveling kit. Literally. So why wouldn't the ZR2 equal the Bison? The Tacoma TRD Off Road is the best value Toyota off roader and will be more than enough for most people. But, Tim, seriously, stop with the resale and reliability thing with Toyota. We don't know if the Tacoma will be reliable. The new Tundra certainly hasn't been. Resale only matters if you get back an amount more than you would have paid for something else. After all, if I pay $49,000 for a TRD OFF Road and $45,000 for a Nissan PRO4-X and the Toyota brings $34,000 on trade two years later and the Nissan $30,000 then the Toyota's greater resale doesn't matter.
It’s sad seeing how high Toyota priced the current Tacoma. I think they even downgraded the underbody protection you get on the TRD Off Road now. The last generation got more metal underneath, the current one has more plastic shielding. I hope sales drop or are no where near what they expect and they’ll have to start incentivizing it a lot more.
The bottom line is power; the Toyota and Chevy are nice but I own a 24 Ranger Raptor, I have driven all 3. I like how easy Chevy makes it to engage the front and rear lock, I like that Toyota makes a manual 6 speed but the deciding factor is power and speed because that is what you are paying for. In that area there is no comparison, the RR destroys them, I know for a fact. It’s a Baja Ferrari.
Raptor for the win! All are really great trucks but all are also ridiculously priced and will struggle in sales as you can easily get a full-size 1/2 ton for same or maybe less
I think a nice ZR2 can be had for around 50k, I think the Bison package adds almost 12k to the price. The Ranger Raptor is around 57k with almost everything you would want (I don't know about dealer markups). The Tacomas are overpriced for what you get. The TRD Pro starts around 64k. Toyota is pretty much taking your added resale value upfront for themselves. Since most people spend 98-100% of their time on road, I would like to see how these ride and handle on the street. On road performance would probably be the deciding factor for me.
@@saywhatnow57 A Tacoma Off Road with the standard features the Raptor and ZR2 come with, would require the $8800 Premium package, and it still won't compete head to head with them. The 64k TRD Pro would be the equivalent trim level of the ZR2 and Raptor.
@@saywhatnow57 LOL a 2024 TRDOR is definitely NOT going to be found on dealer lots new for $43k. The information they showed on screen says this Tacoma TRD OR has an MSRP of $54,829. Dealers are trying to squeeze $50k out of 2024 SR5's with their markups, you definitely won't find a TRD OR for $5-6k less than that!
Paid the $53k MSRP for my 2024 Colorado ZR2, fully loaded with moonroof, paint protection, tint, and wheel locks. I plan on putting 285/75/17's (34's) on it, aluminum skidplates for the tank and rear diff, and MAYBE a 1-2" lift, and that's 95% of a Bison for a fraction of the cost.
The weight of a 5 7 frame also comes into play while seating in the back or front of the Bison. Plenty of room for me at 5 7 and 160 lbs. Chevy all day for me !
Ford Ranger Raptor 2024, I just got one in Black color, more leg room, $10,000.00 less than Tacoma, better looking exterior and interior and please a V6 405 horsepower, as a former Tacoma 2014 owner, the Raptor is a better Truck. Chevy has a 2.7 with same fuel economy, meaning a heavier truck with less power, the bison has that tire in the bed awful.
Haven't own a Ford for 30 years but I really like the Ranger Raptor. V6!! Coil-springs! Price! I am losing faith in the Tacoma due to Tundra engines having to be replaced. Credit to Toyota for standing behind there trucks for repair. Would pick the Bison if it had a V6.
Does the charger work in the taco? It doesn't in the tundra or ranger raptor. The AT4X canyon charger works without over heating depending where you set the phone but connection issues so you use a cable anyway. Ranger raptor if you put the truck into haul mode it selects 4A. Just found that out today moving my trailer
Tacomas are sitting on dealerships lots. Way too expensive and back seat is very tight. The other 2 trucks have way more power and back seats are more useable
Backseat on these trucks are all a joke. I dont care what people say. No midsize is adult friendly in the back 😂. As for power the trd offroad is mid trim level. Not even the most powerful available like the other two which are both top spec engines7k
I burst out laughing when I watched Toyota engineers show the TRD Pro and those seat shocks were taking up all the leg room so he had to kind of tuck his legs awkwardly around them.
It had more ground clearance than a highway overpass. It probably needs a good running board setup and some grab handles. Annoying when GM omits them when they definitely sell the grab handle part for the truck. It's probably in some stupid overpriced package.
For the mid size trucks if they needed stay the same overall length, should they sacrifice more bed length and give that to rear leg room? 3-6" sacrifice, I wonder if that would be a tradeoff people would accept.
I’ll stick with my 1st gen TRD-OffRoad double cab Tacoma. It’s way more capable Off Road than all three of those trucks especially with the upgraded aftermarket parts I added but I will admit they have my truck beat with mpg and street driving but I didn’t buy my truck for the streets that’s what my car is for.😂
I'd say none of them. I'd go with the Colorado Trail Boss for $40K then add a 1" lift and 33" tires. Just not sure about the auto locking diff. in sand.
Good to see the back seats in these midsize trucks work for someone. I would have to get the GMC ATX4 and remove the worthless rear seat package in any of these.
Not a mid size truck, however, not that Toyota just released this massive recall on the Tundra I have lost faith that any manufacturer builds reliable vehicles. And now, we gotta deal with these prices?? Smh
It was a terrible idea to make the Tundra and Tacoma share a platform. Too many compromises to make it work. The 3rd gen Tundra's bed is tiny compared to the 2nd gen and the Tacoma grew in size but feels cramped in the back seat and the factory ground clearance/approach angles don't look great compared to the 3rd gen Taco.
I think the best bang for the buck is get a "regular" ZR2 (like my loaded w/moonroof 2024) and put 285/75/17's (34's) on it so the spare fits under the bed, and if that's not enough, get maybe a 2" lift, get aluminum skidplates for the gas tank and rear diff. That'll basically make it equal to the Bison at a fraction of the cost, AND you don't have to waste space in the bed for the spare. You'll never miss that 1/2" of extra clearance you'd get with the 35's and unless you're racing, you won't miss those jounce dampers. I found the suspension to be amazing when I was ripping around the Valley of The Gods in Moab about a month ago! Just floating along, I even caught some air over a rise and it never felt close to bottoming. It was a blast! The $12k price difference (more expensive than the Raptor!) without an engine upgrade and the spare in the bed are the showstoppers for me. Love my "regular" ZR2 though!
The TRD Pro would be a better matchup with the Raptor and ZR2 but Toyota's insane pricing kind of breaks the comparison. $64k is insane. $22k more than the price of a 3rd gen TRD Pro when it launched in 2017.
Agree … even the TRD Pro looks anemic compared to these two. Other videos of the TRD Pro show that … really terrible exterior design from Toyota IMO; way too notchy & aesthetically awkward.
ZR2 for styling and suspension. Ford for its drivetrain and seats. Toyota for it's practicality :-) Combine those 3 and you would have the perfect mid-size truck!! GM, please give us better seats and a more special drivetrain!! I bet if they put the 6.2L V8 in it , that would be the answer 😁
For the price and me not being in love with the size of those trucks I’d save money and get an Outback wilderness and do the things they just did honestly
I don't think after watching tons of reviews the Ranger Raptor really has any real overall competition. It's like do you want the best or something different
Oddly - why make a new powertrain that does what a 6 Cyl does = same mileage, same toque, but add hybrid complexity. I don't get it. Plus people would possibly go for a hybrid with excellent gas mileage - Fingers crossed that the battery lasts the life of the truck... but why would I take those risks for no more power or mileage? That's what I think is odd.
You only have one vehicle here that’s a true representation. And that’s the raptor. I’m not sure why everybody keeps putting videos together like this. Ranger raptor, Tacoma, Trd pro and the ZR2without the bison package. Truck for truck brand for brand.
For less money than a 2024 TRD Pro! Shows just how insane their MSRP's are. I really wonder who came up with the prices. Did they think that would go over well when Tacoma fans are already upset with them for moving all production to Mexico on top of it. They cut labor cost by like 95% but raised the price of the TRD Pro by over $20k vs the 3rd gen TRD Pro.
Apsolutely no one knows what the reliability of a Tocoma is as of now. Dont get wrong, Im 61 and bought my 1st Toyota 4x4 when I was 18 and drove it every day for 16 yrs it was a 1980. I am currently driving my second, 94 4x4 extra cab bought in 97 so I have been a fan of thier reliability for years. But now? Who knows?
And once again... another comparison where the trucks are NOT set up the same. Its pointless! Traction is key, Tires should ALL BE THE SAME. Same tread, same size, same lifts, same mods. OTHERWISE its a BIAS. YOU know it, WE KNOW IT. So again, what is the point?
Huh? You want each truck to have the same tires? That's not going to happen. These are stock trucks from the manufacturer and they come with their tire choice. It isn't like we can pull of the tires and do the test.
@@karlschauff7989 Toyota has never been a huge fan of turbos. The problem is increasingly tighter and tighter emissions regulations. Even if mpg was the same, a similar V6 would have higher emissions and would not meet requirements. This is why Toyota and other OEMs are moving to turbos and hybrids and EVs.
I'm not a ford fan but the Raptor looked rad getting in the front seat. Love the whole look inside. It looked like a comfortable ride yet capable. v6 power is always a plus over a 4 banger sound.
Zr2 bison for me. Can’t beat steal bumpers, full underside skid plates, sliders, and full lockers with 35s. Wish it had just a straight 6 cylinder engine though.
I have the regular zr2 and I agree, even if I had to lose a few HP a diesel i6 with peak torque coming earlier in the power can and fuel economy would make the zr2 a perfect overlander.
The 3 litre diesel would have been perfect .
Outside of the 35s, both the Raptor and the Toyota TRD PRO OFF ROAD have similar things.
@@robertopics
The 3.0 burns oil badly and uses a lot of DEF fluid.
@@nm-qt2hb The 3.0 doesn't burn oil nor does it use a lot of DEF fluid. GM put out a TSB a while ago with a redesigned valve cover that fixes the oil usage on the LM2. The original valve cover had a defective internal weld that the supplier and GM didn't detect. Once the new valve cover is installed, the oil consumption goes away completely. New LZ0 engines that have had oil catch cans fitted by owners show basically no engine oil being carried into the intake after being in place for 1000+ miles.
Even if those catch cans showed a bit of oil, it's far less than the 1 quart every 1200 miles that Toyota's warranty states is normal oil consumption.
ZR2 Bison for me, hands down. Most aggressive looking, over a foot of ground clearance, f/r lockers, jounce control, steel bumpers/skids, underbody cam, and on 35s. This is the most exciting video you've put out in quite a while!
Agree it is really good looking! I probably could not get in it with those 35's! I don't do much offroading so the Raptor appeals to me from a performance standpoint!
Agreed. The tires sell it. Plus, such a great price for what you get.
@@Dusdaddy you do know the bison in the video was over 65K?
@@planoman0935It's all relative. All of these trucks are overpriced..however you get more with Bison than the other two. In my opinion, the only thing Ford has over the Chevy is the horsepower..fun..but not a necessity when going down off-road trails and over rocks, ect.
@@TREVORJB101 I am just observing comments. I don't think most commenters saw the price of 65K+ for the Bison in this video. There are more comments on price for the Tacoma and it was the least expensive in the group and completed the course just fine. I think the Ranger and the Bison look great! I would likely go for the Ranger if I didn't have a Tacoma and I have checked the prices and you ain't getting one for under 60+ with markups in Dallas! Also interested to see how they all retain their value in a few years. Everyone loves their truck when they are new!
Base ZR2 at $48.9k is best bang for the buck, and for the most part is loaded as is.
Yup! about 6 weeks ago I picked up a loaded w/moonroof 2024 in blue. With 700mi on the clock I took it to Moab for 3 days wheeling, and did a 1/2 day last Saturday in CO. I'm a noob offroader (though I've "softroaded" my 2010 AWD V6 since new), and the capability of the truck is amazing, makes a noob like me feel a LOT more confident.
No it’s not. It doesn’t even come standard with cruise control.
@@fanboiahoy260 My ZR2 has cruise, show where the base ZR2 DOESN'T, Cleetus...
@@fanboiahoy260 You might be thinking of the trail boss. ZR2 comes with cruise control. Adaptive cruise control is an upgrade if you care about that.
Agree, plus there are now plenty of ZR2 owners running 35s on bone stock suspension. 🤘🏻
Reliability you say, please uncheck that box for now but we will see later.
2.7 Ranger XLT FX4. That is the one I am waiting on.
I don’t need all the fancy options, but ford’s decision to not give Push to start until Lariat trim in 2024 is insane.
Ranger Raptor for me
Like the interior of the Raptor better than the ZR2, but like the exterior of the ZR2 more than Raptor. Like Tim said I’d like piece of each put into one unit. 😬
The GMC version has a better interior quality. That goes for all models. They use better materials for the GMC..
@@Mikef1969 And the price increase reflects that. I'm happy with my 2024 ZR2.
@@kx8960 true. I just picked up the AT4 for $47,500 and I drive a lot. So the comfort seats and soft touch materials matter to me. Vented seats And leather. Dealer here gives lifetime power train warranty and an extra $25/month got 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty going GMC over local Chevy dealer..
Chevrolet here for sure. The 2.7T is awesome, it's a lugger.
I think the ZR2 is superior without the Bison package save 10,000 +
You can take that 10k and put into other things and be fine. Can’t believe the Bisoon doesn’t have a bigger engin. Wish it had the twin turbo that early over sea models got.
Get my Ranger Raptor this week very excited 😁
Both hands on the wheel 😂. The Tacoma is overpriced for what it provides. The ranger or Colorado are better deals.
The distinct difference in the Tacoma vs Raptor in the mud comes down to tires. Stock tires on Raptor are much more capable, but it’s nothing that the same tire on the Taco couldn’t fix.
The one thing Toyota/Nissan have going for them is that they offer a 6' box on their midsize trucks. That's a total game changer. I have no idea why the domestic brands fumbled the ball on that. Toyota is going to sell a TON of the Trailhunter trims because of that 6' bed.
But a 6' bed on a mid size pick up+6"= full size pick up with crew cab and shirt bed.
Is that why no one is buying new taco's ?
@@robertopicsyup (but some of us would rather have a longer bed and less passenger room for the same packaging!) I think an f150 is still 5 or 6” longer than a dclb midsize btw which isn’t a lot but if you live in a big city it makes a difference for parking in tight spaces
Love my '21 Ranger fx4, built it similar to a raptor. 2.3 turbo with the 10 speed hauls butt. Superior payload and tow capacity.
I think the lady's grin speaks for it.
I'd try out the Raptor. Great video comparison. Thank you for sharing. (I totally agree about the lack of pillar handles)
Okay, the Bison is a great looking truck but for $63,000 to more than $66,000 depending on spec what do you really get over the base ZR2?
Unlike the Raptor which gives you an engine you can't get in any other Ranger at least right now the Bison has the same engine that comes standard in the ZR2. Although a Chevy engineer at the Johnson Valley Chevy event did say the shocks were re-tuned for the added weight of the wheels and added accessories he also said the springs were the same as on the ZR2 which is why they used the Multimatic jounce control stops as secondary dampers. The Raptor at least has a unique suspension and the TRD Pro will as well. As pointed out in the video the Bison only has 1001 pounds of payload. This will be fine for ninety eight percent of buyers for any of these trucks as they are almost all going to do little more than pick up the occasional bag of mulch at Home Depot and drive it to the back yard flower bed. But for someone actually planning to off road and camp 1000 pounds is cutting it pretty thin. Not to mention there's a spare tire taking up part of the little bed space you have in these crew cab short beds.
AEV also makes their own version of the Bison in which they re-gear to 4.10's for the larger and heavier BF Goodrich tires they put on it and they add tie rod stiffeners so you don't twist the stock ones up while trying to turn and climb at the same time. The Chevy version does not have upgraded tie rods and comes with the same 3.42 gears every other Colorado gets. In addition to this the actual AEV version comes with all the same things as the Chevy version and all for $11,999. Chevy's Bison package comes in at $11,700. So for just $299 more you get a stronger truck with better gearing. No word on the payload but seeing as they don't list doing much of anything with the rest of the truck I guess it would be roughly the same.
The base ZR2 for right around 50K is the bargain off road midsize truck you want. The Ranger Raptor is actually the best overall performance value considering the unique engine for the price. People have no idea what they are talking about with the ZR2 and the Raptor being desert runners and not tough off roaders. Wheel travel, low end and slow speed control, lockers, overall clearances as well as armor make any truck a tough off roader. Watch any Australian Ranger Raptor video. It never takes a back seat to any brand in any situation. The Bison is a ZR2 with after market skids and a leveling kit. Literally. So why wouldn't the ZR2 equal the Bison? The Tacoma TRD Off Road is the best value Toyota off roader and will be more than enough for most people. But, Tim, seriously, stop with the resale and reliability thing with Toyota. We don't know if the Tacoma will be reliable. The new Tundra certainly hasn't been. Resale only matters if you get back an amount more than you would have paid for something else. After all, if I pay $49,000 for a TRD OFF Road and $45,000 for a Nissan PRO4-X and the Toyota brings $34,000 on trade two years later and the Nissan $30,000 then the Toyota's greater resale doesn't matter.
It’s sad seeing how high Toyota priced the current Tacoma.
I think they even downgraded the underbody protection you get on the TRD Off Road now. The last generation got more metal underneath, the current one has more plastic shielding.
I hope sales drop or are no where near what they expect and they’ll have to start incentivizing it a lot more.
It has more protection than previous gen.
The Ford Ranger Raptor starts at $11,000 more than the starting price of the Tacoma they're driving in this video.
@@saywhatnow57 Have you seen what packages you need to add to the Tacoma to get the same features as the Raptor?
@@Fadic4 Probably about the same as a TRD Pro when you factor in the full cost of ownership. That Raptor is probably going to depreciate a lot more.
@@saywhatnow57 It doesn’t get as high as the TRD pro but fully optioned out TRD off-road is ~58k.
You’re 100% correct about the depreciation part.
The bottom line is power; the Toyota and Chevy are nice but I own a 24 Ranger Raptor, I have driven all 3. I like how easy Chevy makes it to engage the front and rear lock, I like that Toyota makes a manual 6 speed but the deciding factor is power and speed because that is what you are paying for. In that area there is no comparison, the RR destroys them, I know for a fact. It’s a Baja Ferrari.
The downside of the new Tacoma is that you can't get the manual transmission with the most powerful engine.
The tacoma has the most power.
This is a really strange comparison of packages.
I think it is Chevy biased.
They all good trucks. I feel the Raptor is overall a better truck.
Drivetrain wise yes, too bad that it will be extremely unlikely to get them for MSRP within the next year or so
The Raptor is a no for me due to the plastic oil pan, transmission pan and oil drain plug. Doubt it’ll make it to 100k without a leak. 😮
I'am not buy a Raptor for hot rodding around street or fire roading . Would take the BISON with more off road capability any day .
@@robertopicsI’m seeing a LOT going for MSRP in SoCal, I’m just trying to decide if I want one with or without the Raptor graphics package.
@@chrisb9478Colorado has the same thing
ZR2 for the win, hands down!!!
Raptor for the win! All are really great trucks but all are also ridiculously priced and will struggle in sales as you can easily get a full-size 1/2 ton for same or maybe less
Why is she so angry hahahaha
Thank you Jill for shutting down Tim’s silly comment about how the taco is just as good as the ranger. Not even close.
I think a nice ZR2 can be had for around 50k, I think the Bison package adds almost 12k to the price. The Ranger Raptor is around 57k with almost everything you would want (I don't know about dealer markups). The Tacomas are overpriced for what you get. The TRD Pro starts around 64k. Toyota is pretty much taking your added resale value upfront for themselves. Since most people spend 98-100% of their time on road, I would like to see how these ride and handle on the street. On road performance would probably be the deciding factor for me.
The Tacoma in this video starts at $43,000 in this video and it's easy to find nicely equipped ones for 44-45k...
@@saywhatnow57 A Tacoma Off Road with the standard features the Raptor and ZR2 come with, would require the $8800 Premium package, and it still won't compete head to head with them. The 64k TRD Pro would be the equivalent trim level of the ZR2 and Raptor.
@@saywhatnow57 LOL a 2024 TRDOR is definitely NOT going to be found on dealer lots new for $43k. The information they showed on screen says this Tacoma TRD OR has an MSRP of $54,829. Dealers are trying to squeeze $50k out of 2024 SR5's with their markups, you definitely won't find a TRD OR for $5-6k less than that!
@@karlschauff7989 I bought one for 44k. It's in my driveway. At least, I've put 1600 miles on it so far so I hope it's mine...
Paid the $53k MSRP for my 2024 Colorado ZR2, fully loaded with moonroof, paint protection, tint, and wheel locks. I plan on putting 285/75/17's (34's) on it, aluminum skidplates for the tank and rear diff, and MAYBE a 1-2" lift, and that's 95% of a Bison for a fraction of the cost.
The weight of a 5 7 frame also comes into play while seating in the back or front of the Bison. Plenty of room for me at 5 7 and 160 lbs. Chevy all day for me !
"My wife says that's 6 inches, great!" hahaha!
That’s funny she told me the same thing last night.
I think I like the raptor out of this group. It looks pretty sick!
Raptor 1st, ZR2 close 2nd.
Are you sure about the transmission on the Ranger, you stated it has an 8 speed, but I think it has a 10 speed transmission
Dammit. My bad.
ZR2 is the best off road mid size pickup along with the AT4X AEV.
I would agree except I feel like if I put 35’s and 2.5 lift on my ranger raptor then it will be the better truck.
How is it the best?
@@Pauly2Swole-1970 Multimatic shocks and spool valves and 35 inch tires.
@@chrisdriner True.
@@chrisdrineronly way to find out is do it instead of flapping your gums!!
As they sit. Raptor hands down. You could take the price difference and put it in and make it even more capable on 35’s.
Ford Ranger Raptor 2024, I just got one in Black color, more leg room, $10,000.00 less than Tacoma, better looking exterior and interior and please a V6 405 horsepower, as a former Tacoma 2014 owner, the Raptor is a better Truck. Chevy has a 2.7 with same fuel economy, meaning a heavier truck with less power, the bison has that tire in the bed awful.
Haven't own a Ford for 30 years but I really like the Ranger Raptor. V6!! Coil-springs! Price!
I am losing faith in the Tacoma due to Tundra engines having to be replaced. Credit to Toyota for standing behind there trucks for repair.
Would pick the Bison if it had a V6.
Chevy and ford engines bring replaced for the last 20 years is okay though
@@Mycameron2323 Can't argue your point! Just read that Ford has many new 5.0L engines with porous blocks, major recall.
Great video Tim and Jill. I. Hope the mosquitos of Wisconsin didn't get you too bad. It's been a wet year. Looks like y'all had fun.
I went with the ZR2 and the decision was easy. Truck has been flawless and the engine a beast on and off road.
Each truck offers something different. We drove all three and liked them but only one can be number 1 and that truck is…
Raptor for me, can still do off-road but for me would be more fun daily driving, its a little rocket on the pavement
Does the charger work in the taco? It doesn't in the tundra or ranger raptor. The AT4X canyon charger works without over heating depending where you set the phone but connection issues so you use a cable anyway.
Ranger raptor if you put the truck into haul mode it selects 4A. Just found that out today moving my trailer
Tacomas are sitting on dealerships lots. Way too expensive and back seat is very tight. The other 2 trucks have way more power and back seats are more useable
Backseat on these trucks are all a joke. I dont care what people say. No midsize is adult friendly in the back 😂. As for power the trd offroad is mid trim level. Not even the most powerful available like the other two which are both top spec engines7k
I burst out laughing when I watched Toyota engineers show the TRD Pro and those seat shocks were taking up all the leg room so he had to kind of tuck his legs awkwardly around them.
When will any of these trucks put in a V8? I don't want a 4 or a 6.
You should compare the Tacoma trd pro with these. The trd off-road cannot compete. The others are top of the line.
It wasn’t there.
Looks like you were struggling to get into the Colorado…could you rate your opinion the ease with getting into and out of each of the vehicles?
It’s just a height issue. Colorado was taller off the ground.
It had more ground clearance than a highway overpass. It probably needs a good running board setup and some grab handles. Annoying when GM omits them when they definitely sell the grab handle part for the truck. It's probably in some stupid overpriced package.
What a dumb question
ZR3 Bison hands down
For the mid size trucks if they needed stay the same overall length, should they sacrifice more bed length and give that to rear leg room? 3-6" sacrifice, I wonder if that would be a tradeoff people would accept.
The Colorado ZR2 Bison 🦬 design reminds me of my first truck a 1993 Toyota SR5 🤠
This is a great video as usual, keep it up!
Does the blonde in the back seat come with the Bison? If so I might trade my Raptor in.
I’ll stick with my 1st gen TRD-OffRoad double cab Tacoma. It’s way more capable Off Road than all three of those trucks especially with the upgraded aftermarket parts I added but I will admit they have my truck beat with mpg and street driving but I didn’t buy my truck for the streets that’s what my car is for.😂
You couldn't get a Nissan Pro4X?
I like both the Colorado bison and the ranger raptor.
The Raptor is huge in Australia and is reliable so give me the Raptor any day of the week.
She slammed the toyota while driving the ranger....slammed the taco huge
Good
The stats you published for the ranger are incorrect regarding transmission. Is the other information you have published correct as well?
Raptor is almost $90K in Canada. Bison is $72K
Ranger Raptor or the F150? Cause I can get a stock ranger rapture for 57-58k here in the states. Bison is over 60K
I'd say none of them. I'd go with the Colorado Trail Boss for $40K then add a 1" lift and 33" tires. Just not sure about the auto locking diff. in sand.
Good to see the back seats in these midsize trucks work for someone. I would have to get the GMC ATX4 and remove the worthless rear seat package in any of these.
Love these comparison videos
Not a mid size truck, however, not that Toyota just released this massive recall on the Tundra I have lost faith that any manufacturer builds reliable vehicles. And now, we gotta deal with these prices?? Smh
It was a terrible idea to make the Tundra and Tacoma share a platform. Too many compromises to make it work. The 3rd gen Tundra's bed is tiny compared to the 2nd gen and the Tacoma grew in size but feels cramped in the back seat and the factory ground clearance/approach angles don't look great compared to the 3rd gen Taco.
I think the best bang for the buck is get a "regular" ZR2 (like my loaded w/moonroof 2024) and put 285/75/17's (34's) on it so the spare fits under the bed, and if that's not enough, get maybe a 2" lift, get aluminum skidplates for the gas tank and rear diff. That'll basically make it equal to the Bison at a fraction of the cost, AND you don't have to waste space in the bed for the spare. You'll never miss that 1/2" of extra clearance you'd get with the 35's and unless you're racing, you won't miss those jounce dampers. I found the suspension to be amazing when I was ripping around the Valley of The Gods in Moab about a month ago! Just floating along, I even caught some air over a rise and it never felt close to bottoming. It was a blast! The $12k price difference (more expensive than the Raptor!) without an engine upgrade and the spare in the bed are the showstoppers for me. Love my "regular" ZR2 though!
You could’ve introduced the passenger in the back seat briefly. And stop hanging up on grab handles. Just step up and step in.
Jill, let the man drive. He’s an expert
“Expert” is relative. I’ve actually competed in two off road rallies and am preparing for my third. 🤷🏻♀️
@@jillciminillo Ohhhh snap! He got burned!!! Niiiice one Jill
She seemed to do really well on the course.
@@Dusdaddy 🙌
The Toyota just looks wimpy next to the other two
The TRD Pro would be a better matchup with the Raptor and ZR2 but Toyota's insane pricing kind of breaks the comparison. $64k is insane. $22k more than the price of a 3rd gen TRD Pro when it launched in 2017.
Agree … even the TRD Pro looks anemic compared to these two. Other videos of the TRD Pro show that … really terrible exterior design from Toyota IMO; way too notchy & aesthetically awkward.
My wife says that’s 6😂😂
In Australia we get grab handles front and rear.
Ranger Raptor 8 speed???? In Australia they're 10 speed.
Mistype on my part.
Interested to see the “will it fist” test….seems extreme for a midsize.
ZR2 for styling and suspension. Ford for its drivetrain and seats. Toyota for it's practicality :-) Combine those 3 and you would have the perfect mid-size truck!! GM, please give us better seats and a more special drivetrain!! I bet if they put the 6.2L V8 in it , that would be the answer 😁
Raptor for me!!;
Bison all the way
Why didn’t you keep it fair with the Toyota Tacoma Trd pro!!!
Because it wasn’t there at the event. Jesus. We said it like three times in the video!
Holy cow that lady is super annoying
I think she's a nice addition, JMO.
For the price and me not being in love with the size of those trucks I’d save money and get an Outback wilderness and do the things they just did honestly
Zr2 for me!
Great comparo Tim & Jill!
I don't think after watching tons of reviews the Ranger Raptor really has any real overall competition. It's like do you want the best or something different
toyota needs little more leg room in the back seats...then it will be the best midsized truck...imo
My Desert Boss is a bad ass.
If I really want an expensive throwaway disposable pick em up truck……..hands down the Tacoma!!👍🏻👏🏻
Oddly - why make a new powertrain that does what a 6 Cyl does = same mileage, same toque, but add hybrid complexity. I don't get it. Plus people would possibly go for a hybrid with excellent gas mileage - Fingers crossed that the battery lasts the life of the truck... but why would I take those risks for no more power or mileage? That's what I think is odd.
You only have one vehicle here that’s a true representation. And that’s the raptor. I’m not sure why everybody keeps putting videos together like this. Ranger raptor, Tacoma, Trd pro and the ZR2without the bison package. Truck for truck brand for brand.
A standard tacoma offroad against these?? Why no TRD Pro??
We said why at least 3 times in the video.
@Pickuptrucktalk I didnt have the volume so I couldn't hear the audio unfortunately as I was in the Dr's office. But, no worries🤙
ZR2 Bison ALL DAY EVERY DAY!!!!
Raptor for sure. Best midsize truck. Just can’t trust anything Chevy anymore unfortunately. Too many problems
Ford raptor of course!
After $16K in upgrades .
C’mon Tim, you gotta give us your own preference on which truck YOU would buy!
It should have been the TRD model
Ranger raptor 🦖 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks!
Ford ranger raptor alllll day long for my money.
Raptor is the truck for me. Way better then the Toyota.
For less money than a 2024 TRD Pro! Shows just how insane their MSRP's are. I really wonder who came up with the prices. Did they think that would go over well when Tacoma fans are already upset with them for moving all production to Mexico on top of it. They cut labor cost by like 95% but raised the price of the TRD Pro by over $20k vs the 3rd gen TRD Pro.
@@karlschauff7989 Thats for sure. Its not going to get better.
Wow, she got mad quick when you were doing 1mph and holding the camera. As a guy that was very concerning and a huge red flag. Scary.
I wonder if the group that was putting this on had specifically said not to record while driving.
Toughen hp psy
Ranger raptor all the way every day
Ranger Raptor 🙏👍 Power, Reliability and most importantly the cost. For that horsepower nothing beats it so cut ✂️ the story short.
Prefer my 3rd tacoma over all of these.
Apsolutely no one knows what the reliability of a Tocoma is as of now. Dont get wrong, Im 61 and bought my 1st Toyota 4x4 when I was 18 and drove it every day for 16 yrs it was a 1980. I am currently driving my second, 94 4x4 extra cab bought in 97 so I have been a fan of thier reliability for years. But now? Who knows?
And once again... another comparison where the trucks are NOT set up the same. Its pointless! Traction is key, Tires should ALL BE THE SAME. Same tread, same size, same lifts, same mods. OTHERWISE its a BIAS. YOU know it, WE KNOW IT. So again, what is the point?
Huh? You want each truck to have the same tires? That's not going to happen. These are stock trucks from the manufacturer and they come with their tire choice. It isn't like we can pull of the tires and do the test.
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk.... After Dark. Will it fist? Is this 6 inches? Jill dropping an F bomb. 😂
Raptor all the way❤
Bring a tow rope when the terrain gets real .
The ZR2 ! + its the 2024 north american truck of the year !
Toyota really dropped the ball on that pricing.
That's the biggest issue. Also, they should have offered a naturally aspirated V6 option.
@@karlschauff7989 Toyota has never been a huge fan of turbos. The problem is increasingly tighter and tighter emissions regulations. Even if mpg was the same, a similar V6 would have higher emissions and would not meet requirements. This is why Toyota and other OEMs are moving to turbos and hybrids and EVs.
apples to apples comparison you need trims that are close together