Cardo Packtalk Slim Installation on Shoei Neotec II Helmet
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- In this video I swap my helmet comm's system over from a Sena SRL to a Cardo Packtalk Slim. It required a bit of adaptation to the helmet - nothing structural - but resulted in a really neat and functional installation.
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Now this was an informative and worthwhile endeavor. Thanks for sharing it.
No worries, cheers for watching!
Great job fitting that Slim!
Cheers! I love it! Thanks for watching👍
Nice work. Camera angles in the helmet helped a lot. Thanks
Hello,
I just watched your installation of the Packtalk Slim on the SHOEI NEOTEC II; very clean job, and I appreciate the tutorial.
Thanks again,
Loyal.
Thank you very much and thanks for watching!👍
Genius! Subbed! This exactly what I was looking for
Hallgeir Bakken excellent, cheers!
thanks for the video, you have given me the courage to now buy the GT air2, and install my pack talk slim
Excellent, go for it!
Perfect and very handy video, exactly what I needed.
Glad you liked it, cheers for watching!
Well made vid👍 I've got the Neotec and GT Air helmets both currently wired with Interphone F5s. Wife and I want to upgrade to the Cardo mainly because of poor battery life on the Interphones. It certainly looks more difficult to fit than our current system. You got it to fit nice in the end.
We also have a vlog set up wired in and I've definitely found I can get better (less wind noise) from the full face GT Air than from the flip front.
Yes, I agree, the flip front definitely adds an element of complication to a vlog set up, I went through lots of different mic configurations before settling on what I have now, which is completely basic - just a bare mic gaffer taped into the front of the helmet. I am tempted to go down the route of external audio, just weighing up funds! The Cardo works well by the way, the clarity of the radio signal is better than Bluetooth. Cheers for watching!
Ohhh very interested to see a flip up helmet vlog setup. It looked fairly fiddly getting the Sena out!
Tasty Dremel work there :P I really must invest in a Dremel at some point :) turned out properly nice! :) The mesh system is class. Very well done anyway :)
The GorillaBiker cheers fella, you’re right, getting the Sena out was the most difficult bit! Thanks for watching!
I bought a Dremel when I was 14 years old to do port work on two strokes then I got a die grinder when I was 16 years old some serious power there..
Thanks man, gonna copy what ya did here for my Shoei Gt air 2
Nice one!
Thank you I have the same issue at the moment so I plan to follow your example.
Thanks for this walk through installation on the Neotech II. Then i know if the next helmet will be one. I have a Neotech I with the Packtalk Slim, no modification needed for that version
No worries, cheers for watching!
@@TheBoltHoleBiker Hi - do you know if the same modification have to be done to the Shoei GT Air II?
@@thunderace97 Hi, I don't know, sorry.
I own a GT Air 2 identical issues not withstanding the front section of the lid, neat job and looks like a great fit👍. That said in the end after trying a few systems I did what Shoei wanted and went the Sena
Nothing wrong with the Sena, and they do mesh now as well, so probably the best decision!
Great T shirt met Bruce the other evening 😎
Cheers! Yes, he's a good guy.
That was bulls eye for me, receiving the GT air and Cardo tomorrow. Althogh Bold Black edition, but that might be an installation that follow your path 👍😀
Good luck with the installation!
Thank you for this video. Just can't handle the Sena programming issues anymore!
It's the little things in life that can frustrate!
Thank you so very much! I am looking for help with setting up a Cardo Packtalk Bold/ Slim with a Shoei Neotec 2 and there is very little help available. Just hate Shoei for marrying with just Sena. However, your video helps out tremendously. Thanks again!
No worries, I'm glad it has helped! Good luck with the set up.
"Just hate Shoei for marrying with just Sena."
For real, what the hell... figured that something like that would be so stupid as to not warrant research prior to purchase of the Neotec 2, but here I am, the one looking stupid I guess.
It's on though, so whatever.
respect man, i wanted to do this config but didn have the guts to do it.
Cheers. I must admit it felt a bit weird cutting into bits from a helmet that cost a small fortune, but all worked out in the end!
Great video I just ordered the slim looked easy enough to fit as u said its only a bit of plastic can b replaced easy if it goes wrong fingers x
Exactly, risk free!
I did this install on my wife’s Neotek II and it went together well. I was able to make the cutout for the Slim control in the side cover without having to piece the cover onto the helmet. Can you provide the type and manufacturer of the double faced tape that you used to mount back unit please? Thanks this was the most helpful videos I’ve seen in awhile.
The quality of your presentation (sound, video and narration) is excellent. I feel sick having just bought a Neotec 2 and now having to decide being going with the sena integrated or fitting a packtalk to ride with friends who have packtalks. I noticed (on my helmet) that the channel groove for the boom microphone passes straight through the ear speaker with NO EXTRA SPACE for OEM microphones that are longer, fatter or have the sticky pad sections. Sadly I saw you couldn't successfully route your boom into the groove either. I saw mentioned in the comments. Would you still go this route or install the mesh version of the sena. Kind regards from OZ.
I just fit a packtalk slim into my neotec 2. I just able to get the slim unit into the helmet just behind where the sena inserts are located. It's back a bit, but still not too bad to reach.
Nice one! Cool name by the way!
I have a Shoei GT Air-2 with similar triangle side plates (made for a Sena - boo!), and the Cardo Packtalk BOLD (with JBL speakers). I stuck it on left side above and forward of that plate; it's a bit more forward than most put it but I find it easier to reach it to press the buttons. The advantages of it are no additional battery pack, and you can pop it off for security or charging (I don't think the slim battery disconnects for charging?). As the GT Air-2 is full face, I used the stick on mic into the cutout that Shoei thoughtfully put right in the center of the chin bar foam. Quite happy with it. It's a quiet helmet especially with a windscreen so I can even use it with ear plugs easily.
To anyone worried about drag from either unit, If you ride a touring or ADV bike with a larger windshield like me, you shouldn't have any noticeable drag or noise. Maybe if you have a sport bike where your helmet is out in the open air stream...
Cheers for that, very informative. I sometimes wish I'd gone for the Bold to be honest, partly for the reasons that you mention and partly because the buttons look easier to find with gloves on and, if I'm not mistaken, don't you have a wheel for the volume? I think that would be much easier. GT Air-2 is a nice looking helmet!
@@TheBoltHoleBiker I don't have an issue pressing the right buttons with gloves on, I have an issue remembering all the diff functions and combo button presses to do them all! Really I just use the one button to FF to next song, and YES the WHEEL for volume (more of a roller...). If I set up my bike as the Bluetooth "hub" I can use the handlebar controls for media and phone controls. I've lately been trying it without the bike, just Cardo to phone and that works too, just a little differently ('Hey Google' only works in this mode).
@@ToddGlasier I know what you mean, there's a lot that can be done with just those three buttons, it's a lot to remember. I've just learnt the bits I use and then hope that I don't hit the wrong buttons! What bike is it that you have that you can operate Cardo via the handlebar controls? I like the sound of that. Best way that I have managed to find for me is when I can get a three way bluetooth link between my phone, helmet and Garmin sat nav, as that way I can operate everything via the sat nav, but it is a black art working out how to get them all to connect! Hopefully it won't be too long before one of the companies finally manages to create a really good, solid system. That will be a good day.
Thanks for sharing, shows that perseverance and patience pays off. My questions is from a tech point of view, was the upgrade worth it? I am comparing the Cardo slim with the Sena 50R - i want to connect via BMW TFT screeen
Honestly, it was at the time, because it meant that I could use the mesh function whilst riding in a group, but now that I believe the Sena also supports mesh tech then no, I'd install the Sena, as it is a neater installation in the Shoei helmet.
You convinced me to try it! Thanks for sharing :-)!
Now worries, I hope it goes well!
Sena and cardo are similar to attaching pretty much, what I can notice, is that correct? I'm needing to buy a sena as I'm wanting to connect a radar detector to my sena. So, with that in mind, I be able to pretty much do what you done, but with the sena unit? Yes /no?
@@philippeek1129 I am not sure about how a stand alone Sena is installed - the Sena that I have is a unit that is integrated into the Neotec 2 helmet, which is why I had to adapt the helmet to allow the Cardo to fit. The Cardo kind of wedges around the outside shell of the helmet, which makes installation onto any helmet possible, you'd have to check if a stand alone Sena uses a similar system for fitting,. If it does then I'd guess you'd have no problem. I'm intrigued by the radar detector modification!
@@TheBoltHoleBiker would love to get the slr2 but like you(cleaner look) , would like to have the mesh function, not that I have anyone to ride with that has sena that I know of (just stated riding with a new group, so will see if any of them have it (winter here in nz)). Will need to get a Bluetooth dongle type thing, which cardo doesn't have to connect the Radar detector to sena(audio)
@@philippeek1129 Sena have just brought out a couple of new units with a mesh function by the way. I think it is the 50R and 50S.
I have freecom 4+ in my neotec II. Works good. I was worried if those JBL speakers would fit because they are quite big, but they fit just fine. Having whole device glued to the helmet is quite annoying, but that was the only way, because all my friends use cardo intercoms.
I guess it's just one of those thing that you get used to. Biggest issue for me with all comms systems is getting used to finding where the buttons are with gloves on!
Nice bit of fetling to get it to fit , I would be interested in your vlog set up as I have the same lid and have wondered how to get some nice filming. I love the Teapotone mercy too 👍👍👍
Funnily enough, I was planning on making a vid on the vlog set up, so watch this space! Cheers for watching!
Does the cardo speaker fit perfectly into the speaker hole? Thanks
Awesome built, almost looks like OEM. Have you refitted the sound insulation foam for the neck piece by now?
I guess so, everything that came off went back on again.👍
Very helpful - thanks. Bit of a faff with the dremel work on an expensive lid. Looks like you did a great job though! Amazon on standby should I need the same tool for my Arai Debut!
Cheers! Every garage needs a Dremel!
Thanks! This should work on the GT-Air II as well.
Yes, it should be the same I think.
How did you manage to get the clips on the Slim "box" to go in so far? Did you separate some of the liner from the plastic shell to the needed depth? What about interference with the sun visor mechanism?
Subscribed(#101) due to your tinkering, reminds me of what i love to do..👍
Excellent! Cheers for watching, tinkering is a compulsion!
Does the slightly lowered mounting of the side unit cause a rubbing against the collar when wearing a riding jacket? You took the comm. I am abou to buy and put it on the helmet I just bought. In fact I was hesitating because of my concern if I could make it work. Glad I found your vid. And when I saw you take the Dremel to the $750 helmet plastics without fear your sub count just went up +1. Kudos to you for findng a way to make up for a Cardo shortcoming (I wish Cardo offered e a conversion mounting kit for this helmet.)
Ha, ha, no worries, yes, a conversion kit would be a great idea. No, the position of the unit hasn't caused me any problems with rubbing on jacket collars etc. Cheers for the sub!
To those (like me) that area bit worried about cutting your new helmet, I managed to get the base covers from ebay for £10 before I had a go!
Now that sounds like a far more sensible way of going about things than my way!!!🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for being brave enough to dremel a $700 helmet! Having this for several months now, what is your assessment? Is it a good system overall in terms of sound and control (less concerned with intercom features) and does it add any noticeable drag?
Hi, yes, it works well - decent system, decent sound, buttons easier to feel than the Sena ones, and I haven't noticed any drag, so all positive really. The confidence required to start attacking the helmet with the Dremel came from the knowledge that I was really only cutting a plastic cover that I could easily replace if I messed it up! I'm not that brave!😂😂😂
Do you have any close up photos of the helmet panel cut out please? Looking to do the same to mine this weekend, could use a template or reference photo of how the panel looks with and without the unit attached.
Hi Jason, I've taken some photos for you, but I can't get them to save into the comments box - if you drop me an email at stephen@theboltholebiker.com I'll reply to it with them attached. 👍 Good luck with the adaptation! It isn't too bad to do.
How did you attach the batteri , did you as velcro so you can take if off or did you use dobbel adhesive tape?
Hi, I used double sided tape, if I remember rightly it was one of the 3M adhesive pads that you get with GoPro mounts.
I unscrewed the 3 screws holding the left side Sena mount and then the cardo slim fit without permanent modification. It was fiddly, I admit, using a small phillips screwdriver that I bent at 90 degrees wedging it under the padding to reach the screws. I also reinstalled the sena mount when the slim usb port gave up.
Nice one! I didn't even think of trying that, definitely one for next time!👍
Hello Stephen, thanks for the video. Something to contemplate on.
Now I’m torn between the sena and the slim. I wil use it mainly for solo riding. Music, calls, navigation. I ride without windshield. Highway and backroads. Are both systems equally adequate in that respect on the Neotec 2? Thanks!
Well, certainly both are adequate, speakers a bit better on the Cardo, buttons slightly easier for me on the Sena. In all honesty, if it wasn't for the mesh connectivity of the Cardo, which I wanted in order to mesh with the small group that I do tours with a couple of times a year, I would probably have stuck with the Sena. They are both excellent systems, I just wanted the mesh.
With the 50r/s with sena.... Would you have stuck with sena? The only thing I'm worried about is the waterproofing
@@philippeek1129 Having the Neotec 2 then yes, if mesh was available with Sena when I was needing it then I would have stuck with Sena as it is made for the helmet and is super sleek. There was nothing wrong with the Sena system at all, but at the time I wanted the mesh capability, which Sena just didn't do.
Hey - can I ask what helmet size you used. I’ve just done the same install and the cable between the control and battery is shorter or the helmet is bigger ! Mines xl . This means the battery pack doesn’t sit centred at the back.
Hi, mine's large, how far off centre is it?
Thanks for sharing 😀
No worries, cheers for watching!
hi mate, can I ask why you brought the boom mic out so high in the middle of the lid? Looks way to high for me, I currently have the sena in the same lid and I'm disappointed with battery life so considering this, my mic is definitely a lot lower in behind the chin, is it no possible to use the sena mic routing channel to clip the boom in or are you using this for vlog stuff already? Thanks for video good info
Hi Paul, not sure why they are different heights, I have used the Sena routing channel as you suggest. Generally I just bend the mic arm to sit right in front of my mouth before I put the lid down, it may be that in the video it was bent up a bit. Interesting that you are having battery life issues though, I didn't have that issue at all with my Sena - might be worth getting in touch with them, it might be a faulty battery. Cheers for watching!
@@TheBoltHoleBiker interesting that you mention that, as I sent the unit back to sena Just last week and they are sending a full replacement unit, but reading online I'm hearing a lot of the same complaints, my 1 and only friend that i talk with on rides has an old sena 10r and he will get the full day out of his, we pay much chat constantly and are out around 7-8 hours no problems for him, I'm getting about 3-4 hours before I get low battery warning and it constantly nags about low battery never shuts up. I have also had it charging for a few hours got the blue led light gone out and had low battery warnings in about half an hour! So I'm hoping it was faulty, the fact you can't charge via power back whilst it's switched on is annoying too. I'll give this new one a whirl and see how it is, it sounds like what you charge with is a real factor and add they don't give you anything to charge with I used my phone charger and maybe over done it a bit.???
Thanks
@@adv-nomad Definitely sounds like they had a dodgy batch of batteries, I used to get a full day out of mine, no problem. Hopefully the new one will sort the issue.
Nice job but would of liked to seen close-up shots of the finished cut job and controls once you put it back together.
What was your thought process and approach when masking the plastic cover to fir the slim? I am all but sold on getting this unit for my neotec2. Did you use any sealing compound to bond the slim to the plastic piece?
I fitted the Cardo without the plastic cover first to position it correctly and then marked the initial cut somewhere close to where it needed to be and then continued to just trim small amounts from the plastic and keep trying the Cardo in place until it was a good fit. It was a little bit fiddly, but not bad and didn't take long at all. I didn't bond the Cardo in place, as it just holds itself in place fine, as it does on other helmets, but I did end up bonding the plastic cover pieces in place, just because I was a bit paranoid that if they vibrated their way out at any time I didn't have replacements.
@@TheBoltHoleBiker Makes sense. I mean bonding the plastic to the cradle, not so much the unit itself. This break down has made me decided. Slim it is! I want waterproof(resistant) unit and Sena just doesn't offer that. Cheers!
SignoreMookle no worries, good luck with the installation!
You mentioned that the Bold would have been easier to install than the Slim, please can you say why this is. I’m on the cusp of buying a Neotec II but don’t want to install Sena. I haven’t bought the Cardo yet but it is by far, my preferred comms system. Cheers 👍
Basically because it sticks to the outside of the helmet, so it does away with the Dremel work trying to integrate it into the helmet, as I have with the slim.👍
Do you guys think it's possible to install a Cardo Slim in a Shoei NXR2
Hi, I'm not 100% sure about that to be honest, as the helmet has a sort of apron piece at the bottom and I'm not sure how that would affect the piece that attaches the slim to the helmet. It might be completely fine, but without seeing one up close I wouldn't like to say one way or the other. Lovely helmet that though, I love Shoei helmets.
I have the same helmet and I want something. I just want music and use of the phone bug I Herd the SRL is not that good. I don’t think I can cut that side like you did . What if I got the packtalk black ?? I have a black helmet..
I've not seen the Packtalk Black in the flesh, but from what I can see it has various fitting options including a glue plate, which basically sticks it to the side of the helmet, so it certainly looks like it would work fine. Looks like a very good unit as well.
Thanks for the video, I'm interested to hear how you like it after a month.
Well, so far, so good! I have used it in a mesh group of four on a short tour through France and Germany and it worked well, and I am using it daily for phone calls and navigation and so far all good. The only thing I can't make it do is respond to the 'Hey Cardo' commands, but it does respond perfectly, via my phone, to 'Hey Siri', so I have been doing everything through that. Bit weird, but no hardship. All in all really happy with it.
@@TheBoltHoleBiker Is the Sound Quality way better then the sena? Im considering the shoei neotec ii plus a coms system and im wondering if the sena srl ist kind of outdated by now in terms of functionality/sound quality etc. would you sitll go for the srl since its so nicely integrated? Cheers!
@@JayP66775 The sound is very slightly better with the Cardo, but not massively, the Sena is still excellent. The only reason I swapped to Cardo was for the mesh function. If you don't need that then the Sena is a sleeker fit and the functionality is pretty much the same.
@@TheBoltHoleBiker Perfect! Exactly the type of answer I was hoping for. Thanks!
Hey have you thought about a review of the helmet? Would be interested in hearing what you think of the ventilation, quietness, comfort, etc of the helmet. It's the one I'm thinking of buying. Cheers!
Funnily enough you're the second person to mention doing a vid on the helmet recently, so I'll see what I can do!
I would've tested the Cardo before taking a Dremel out. Well done on the setup, I presume it has worked well for you. I've ordered this helmet but already have a Sena 50S so will have to work something out.
Yes, your way would have been far more sensible, I should've thought of that!😂😂😂. Luckily it has worked out okay. Cheers for watching!
I priced up new caps in the UK £5 before I cut them lol
@@jamiek9907 Very wise.
I’m super confused. Why not use the Sena that costs the same and fits into the helmet? I own both the pactalk slim and the sena and neither one is better than the other. The jbl speakers are decent at best. Use them both in gt air one and two helmets
kurbaniak it was because of the mesh function - I was going away with three other people and we all wanted to communicate and two of them already had Cardo’s. The mesh facility is excellent.
Excellent! Thanks. I bought the Neotec and Sena SRL-2 because of the clean installation. My buddies then all went out and bought cardo packtalk bolds. So a very similar problem as you described. Given you have done this, would you still go this route, or would you go with the bold unit? If not, are you still happy with this? Any things you would do differently?
Also I note on Cardo site they have different clamp and skirt lengths: www.cardosystems.com/packtalkslim-compatible/ did you follow this?
Hi Andy, cheers for watching, I wasn't aware of the different clamp and skirt lengths to be honest, so no, I didn't follow the compatibility guidelines. I guess I must have been lucky with the ones that came with it, as they work fine. Having not ever used the Bold I'm not sure which I would prefer, but I can confirm that I am still happy with the Slim installation and it works well. I personally don't like the look of big blocks stuck on the side of helmets, so I would still go down the Slim route. In terms of things that I would do differently, initially I didn't glue the plastic parts that I had to cut into place, as the Cardo seemed to wedge them in well, but I did do a retro gluing of them as I was worried that they could vibrate out eventually. Other than that, no problem. I have developed a habit of pressing up on the bottom of the unit occasionally to ensure that it hasn't slipped down from the helmet, but I think this is just paranoia, as it never seems to move! Let me know which way you go.
@@TheBoltHoleBiker Thanks for taking the time to respond and provide an update. I ordered a slim yesterday, so I will follow your approach. As for the compatibility part, the product now ships with two different size clamps and two different width skirts (long and short). Will keep you posted. Cheers!
@@andyjames1699 Cheers Andy, good luck with the installation, I look forward to seeing how it goes!
@@TheBoltHoleBiker I was able to do the installation of the control unit yesterday. Those extra clamps and skirt only apply to the battery module, so the installation was exactly as you describe it. I was able to retain about 1mm between the rear piece of the plate and the front piece as it profiled around that Packtalk control unit. This means I have a single piece vs 2 separate plate pieces.
It feels very hard to pull down, so I don't think slipping out will be a problem.
While not as elegant as the Sena SRL-2 fitting, overall - as you say - I'm happy with the result, so thank you for taking the time to share this hack.
Now, if only Sena and Packtalk could just agree on an intercom standard and we wouldn't have these shenanigans to deal with.
Actually it was so easy I just used the self-adhesive plate which after leaving for the adhesive to set ( they say four hours) the unit went on fine I used the sticky velcro pads to anchor the speakers which they did fine I cut one of the plastic ribbon edges for the top pad and the wires fitted neatly into and under the pads.
Are you selling your SRL?
So which one is better.....the Sena SRL or Cardo packtalk bold?
For what I want it for, ie the mesh facility, the Cardo is better because the Sena doesn't have it. The JBL speakers are a bit better on the Cardo as well and the buttons are a bit easier to feel through gloves. But they are both good and the Sena looks better, as it completely integrates into the shape of the helmet. I'd say functionality-wise they are the same, they both do exactly what they are meant to do.
@@TheBoltHoleBiker can you do voice command on the SRL and how is the sound for music?
@@nycowboy2288 Yes, you can do voice commands on the SRL, for me the music was always a bit quiet on the Sena, especially at motorway speeds, but bear in mind that my bikes are both nakeds, so there is a fair bit of wind noise to factor in to the equation. I can certainly hear the Cardo speakers a bit better though.
I cut a couple of slits in the battery cover and bent the two prongs over to mount the rear unit, fits securely with no worries of a stickey pad becoming un-stickey, haven't been brave enough to cut down the infill panel yet but really appreciate the video.
I hadn't thought of that, nice one! Cutting the infill panel is easier than it looks, you'll be fine with that. Incidentally, I did end up gluing mine in after a few rides, which isn't shown in the video. This was just a precautionary measure, as I was getting paranoid about them vibrating out and getting lost. Good luck with the cutting!👍
Fitted the bold into my Bell Star MIPS sound with the JBL speakers is good but the placement from Bell does not suit me the best and am getting earfold That sucks. Having a hell of a time getting it to connect to anything. But radio and music from phone is good 👍🏻🇦🇺
Interesting that you're having trouble getting it to connect, as the whole mesh connectivity is one of the big selling points. Unfortunately I don't think I am going to be able to test the intercom connection on mine until next month, so I'll have to keep my fingers crossed for that! Bummer about the earfold, that's one of life's little annoyances that makes something so simple, like putting a helmet on, a complete pain in the arse!
The Bolt Hole Biker I believe the mesh will be fine I was trying to connect non Cardo units with no luck. But it was the first time so will have another crack.
Funnily enough one of the reasons I have gone for a Cardo is that I have trouble connecting with my brother's comms with my Sena. His is Cardo, so I'm hoping they will talk now! The different brands don't seem to link too well by the looks of it.
I’m gonna give to a go
Go for it! I've got close up pictures if you need them, just email me on stephen@theboltholebiker.com and I'll send them on.
i fitted my sena to my neo tec helmet ..man i hate putting them back together
The part where the cable runs into is the antenna.
Oh, okay👍
Nice install, shame Shoei has gone down the Senna route, making Cardo installs harder. But nice job.
You need to start selling dremmeled side covers for the Neotec 2………
Ha, ha, yes, but I'm not sure how big a market there will be for them!🤣
@@TheBoltHoleBiker the issue with the pack talk slim is the only reason why I didnt buy the helmet couple days ago….. anyway….
Hia any up date on this set up? I'm looking at investing in the same set up when the shops open up again. If so can you do a close up of the mod you done on the side cap.👍 great well put together vid....also a clan member...🤗
No worries, I've got some photos I can forward over. Could you email me on stephen@theboltholebiker.com please and I'll reply with them attached - I can't clip them to a YT comment. 👍
@@TheBoltHoleBiker done...I think...lol
@@jamiek9907 Excellent! How did it go?
@@TheBoltHoleBiker I haven't got the helmet or coms yet as I'm waiting for the shops to open, need to try the helmet on as I have a big head and need to see if it fits properly 🤣🤣 but I have found the spare bits on tinterweb that need to be cut up even the back/ clip for the buttons to see if that can be cut / trimmed so they may be stuck on.🤞 So as soon as I can get in the shops my money is spent....lol
@@jamiek9907 Very wise. I have the large helmet and to be honest, could have probably got away with the medium, but I think I am somewhere in-between - I ended up getting the thicker cheek pads and swapping them over to get a snugger fit (only after having the helmet for a couple of years and the padding compressing slightly). Shops opening tomorrow hopefully! Woohoo! I've got some purchases lined up as well! Happy shopping!😂
Actual video starts after 3 minutes of talking
Ha, ha, I've just watched it back and you are right🤣. It had never occurred to me when I was making it. I'll be aware of that in the future.
One Problem now you have paid for a Sena that you have no use for ....
Yes, that is a slight downside. I did use it for two years before changing to the Cardo though, so it wasn't a complete waste of money and I am considering getting another helmet in a different colour, which could possibly fit the Sena, so it might still be used.
@@TheBoltHoleBiker I wish I had a helemt designed to recess the Cardo Pack Talk Slim .. the batter int he back catches on the colloar of jackets and if I bobble my head while wearing anything with padded shoulders it turns the radio on and other carzy things..
That revving that the beginning was terribly loud. Definitely turn that down
I don't use that any more👍
Shoei has 70k members on its community fb page I just posted this vid into ;-)
Excellent, cheers! Numbers still creeping up! Just got back from a ride, bit chilly here today, but good all the same.
@@TheBoltHoleBiker They will continue to tickle up now almost without doing anything else
@@DukeOfTwist Looks like they are!
You have a very positive attitude I dont posses. Me? I am so sorry now I purchased the Shoei ...cause I am NOT about to cut pieces off and so damn the Cardo goes back to the store (who said nothing when I bought the Cardo either) I have to settle now for something else cause the helmet cant be returned at this poing ...I personally think it was very rude of Shoei not allow for the most popular brand of communication ....next helmet Shoei is off the bus But I also think Cardo does a crap job engineering a product to be universal ....you cant convince me they could not have done much better ....problem is everyone seems to accept chaos in their lives
u have exposed wires dude really?
I needed the mesh at the time and Sena didn't do it then, so it was the best option available. Now that Sena do mesh I don't disagree that the integrated system would be a neater option. I've got nothing against the Sena, they just didn't do what I needed at the time.
...so that big wad of money you paid for that integrated sena system was a total waste because it isn't as good as the cardo? The cardo does come out on top in most reviews, but really?........you clearly have money to burn upgrading to it.
I wish I did! I used the Sena for two years before swapping for the Cardo, so it got some decent use first and I wanted the mesh function of the Cardo. Every penny is still a prisoner here!
His money he could burn it to keep warm if he liked, fuck off