Very well done and well put together! Much appreciated and I'd agree to say that it's unethical to use the Swarm Magnum combo to take down a deer but under extreme survival circumstances we at least should get to know our rifles very well to place the perfect shot necessary to make such an ethical kill.
A full grown mule deer, yes a big assed mule deer, was just found dead in thick brush by the Idaho Fish and Game dept. It was killed by a .177 caliber pellet. It was a thru shot that penetratrd both lungs.
@robertwylie5567 They can certainly do it. Not the most ethical choice and that is why they are illegal for that use in most states but they can do it with the right shot placement.
You completely answered all of my questions and then some. One of the best videos made. I thank you, sir, for your time, patience and expertise! Well done!
I've done a bunch of penetration test with the same gun. The Rocket has good penetration, but the H+N Hornet is the ultimate 22 penetrator. At 10 yards it will go through 8 gauge steel or pass completely through a coconut with ease.
@@HuntShootLive the Rocket would put a helluva dent in the 8 gauge, but not go through. In other tests the Hornet went through 2 coconuts at 10yrds but I was never able to replicate it. The best I got was passing through the first and getting stopped in the middle of the second coconut. But that tells me it would probably pass right on through a deer's skull at 20+yds. 🤠
Anything is good at 10 yards. :) But I am with you with the Hornet in this gun. If you are good with springers and have a good scope, this sucker with that pellet is a 70-80 yard small game head shot gun. It flies as well as any great domed pellet, (to my amazement foe a tipped pellet), and the quality is fantastic. The Hornet skirts are thicker than the rockets and it is often I get a 200 pc tin with no dented skirts. The thin skirts are the downfall of the otherwise very good rocket pellet. This gun has enough pressure to blow up the Hornet skirt for a good fit with the riflings/barrel bore. The Hornet flies so well, I bought over 2000 of them,---then my gun broke. After you clean your barrel, make sure there is no oily grime under the magazine system and the breech face,---or the gun will get damaged. The plastic covers up the breech face, and it was out of sight, out of mind for me. The first shot I did after cleaning it dieseled and sounded like a .22LR. I found the pellet in the snow, (I think a JSB dome), and the skirt is blown up like a perfect ball room dress to .300" in diameter, (2mm larger than the barrel, from the dieseled pressure). I think that is the ID of the plastic muzzle.
Yessir I shoot them in .177 and .22 both go straight thru a 400 page paper back. Love the hornets just wish they could make em a lil cheaper I cry every time I run out and have to buy more
Appreciate you taking the time and effort to do this test. Also I believe the myth buster guys have another saying, “ Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”. 🔥
Thank you for your hard work. I like to do a lot of research before and after a purchase and just love getting information like this that I haven’t seen anyone else do before.
The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.
Great video. Very interesting. I personally own Gamo Swarm Magnum 22 gen1, Gamo Magnum Jungle 22 (single-shot rifle), Gamo G-Magnum 177 (single-shot rifle) and Gamo Swarm Maxxim 177 gen1. I like Gamo because for a relatively small amount of money you get very powerful rifles. At a short distance, I get the deepest penetration with Gamo Magnum in 177 caliber with H&N Hornet pellets that achieve high subsonic velocity. With 22 caliber Gamo rifles also H&N Hornet pellets give excellent penetration. God bless!
Better with a cross bow. Whether or not the air gun/rifle projectile combination penetrates for a kill, depends on the combined engineering of both gun and/or projectile/bullet. That is if they are meant to do so. Air guns are meant to be restrictive in killing power, that is by the powers that be. I have found over my 76 years, that hardened led balls work the best in the combination of penetration and energy transfer.
Thanks for all the work you've put in to this. Social Media rules dictate that no matter how well you cover your bases, someone will be offended and/or threaten violence to you and your family. Just like with 22LR, these types of questions will no doubt continue to be asked as long as airgun hunting continues to exist. It's important that we continue to investigate them. 👍
The swarm magnum gen 3I is coming out sometime soon It looks more ergonomic than the gen 2 an they removed that steel finish that good because that just rusts.
Love that your little one popped in! I have 6 kids and one of the only reason I haven't created content at home is because they pop in whenever they want, may reconsider my content shooting options haha 😂
@@reflectivesessions Haha! Let them pop in. The only time UA-cam has a cow is when I’ve tried to show my kids shooting. Most of that content gets removed so I stopped trying. But they can definitely be in videos. I have my kids hunt videos on the channel also I just can’t actually show them independently shooting a firearm unassisted.
I’ve taken 2 white tail down with Gamo varmint stalker .177. It’s not easy, you need to be very precise in hitting the heart. After hitting one in the heart, it only ran about 20’ before dropping dead. The second one ran off to about 40’ away before dropping dead. Both were accurate dead shots using Gamo Raptor gold plated pellets in .177.
When I was young a friend's family owned a local slaughterhouse, they stunned cows, and hogs with 22 short. After the slid to the floor their throats were cut, and they bled out. The animals never showed any sign of pain, much more humane kill than a center mass shot typical of hunting. The problem with hunting with a 22 short, or 22 pellet gun is getting that perfect shot between the eyes. Their are hunters who do use air rifles for wild pigs using between the eyes head shots, they are very successful. Even small pigs have a very hard scull, probably tougher than a deer.
I was like 15 and got sent to Pennsylvania to stay out of trouble and I worked at a dairy farm and every once in a great while a cow would step in a woodchuck hole and break its leg. The farmer was so busy that he didnt have time to deal with her so he said I could have her . so I got my family together and my uncle used a .22 and shot her between the eyes and it knocked her out cold. I jumped on her and cut her throat. The idea is that you knock the cow out instead of killing so when you cut the throat the heart will pump most of the blood out. Because there is so much blood in a cow. IV had people call me a lier and say that .22 go through the skull everytime but iv shot 3 cows with cheap federal brick ammo and it didnt go in the skull. I never tried .22 shorts but I'm sure it knocks em out cold just the same. But they damn sure dont suffer. I think that you would drop a smaller deer with this guys air rifle if you hit it in the head from a shorter distance. IV seen .22 shorts and .22 CB caps drop a deer from 40 yards with head shots.
Yeah the .22 doesn’t actually kill them. It’s the knife to bleed em that actually kills them. It only knocks em out. Ive seen slaughterhouses where the guy was shooting a horse and on many occasions it would take multiple shots to the head before it would get knocked out or killed at that point.
I have this gun. It is a 100 yard gun, (but not much energy left that far out). When you get the technique down for shooting a springer, (basically, don't touch the gun at all,--lighten the trigger cause a gun just floating on your hands is easy to move.), you will get those groups at 80 yards, (if the scope and all is working properly). The gun shoots a lot of good pellets well, but I found most of the H&N pellets to have the best quality, (no dented skirts like those rockets, that's a 20fpe difference), and those Hornet pellets with the metal tip fly as well as any great domed pellet I have used. Accurate enough for head shots to 70 yards on small game,---if your not touching the damn gun! :) PS, when I took my cheek and shoulder pressure off the stock before pulling the trigger,---groups got smaller. Can't get parts easily from Gamo though, so I will buy an extra gun.
Very satisfying great video sir!!! As a Gamo swarm magnum gen 2 owner!!! I think i am going to watch this great video again and again for maybe a thousand times!!!hehehe. More power and God bless sir!!! and of course more videos about Gamo Magnum tooo...
FYI -- I also have the Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen 2 .22 cal. (27 FPE). It's a good break barrel, but the scope is not. I also have the Umarex Gauntlet 2 .25 cal. (56 FPE) which can place 5 rounds within a nickel diameter at 60 yards with a 6-24X Hawke scope (which costs 1.5X more than the Gauntlet 2). Penetration using JSB King Heavy 33.95 gr pellets at 60 yds will pass through two 3/4-inch pine boards. The Gamo Swarm will just +/- pass a pellet through one 3/4-inch board at point blank range. Gamo Swarm = No Deer, No pigs. You would need head shots with at least 50 FPE for small pigs, and 100 FPE with a .30 cal. pellet or .22 cal. LR for a medium sized deer in order to be humane.
Y’all keep putting the magnum against a PCP rifle price doesn’t compare a compressor (a good one not that Chinese junk 6-700 plus for a portable a airtank (one that you will get more than 1.5 charges from 600+) a hand pump 300 plus and that separates the boys from the men this is a working man price vs a real investment also absolutely will knock down smaller hogs coyotes medium game with no problem and who is trying to hit anything further than 50 yards without the intent to be inhumane anyway
@@Whatthedread Yong heng Chinese compressor, $200-$400 wherever you may get one. Or you get yourself a hand pump for $40. And a diana stormrider for $210 BRAND NEW. Getting into pcp isn't necessarily an investment. But it sure as hell can be if you want it to be. And you can definitely take humane shots past 50yds.
@@HuntShootLivethanks i will tjeck your video out ... do you know if the Swarm Mag Gen3i .177 is worth the money i mean can it hit precise enough for small game ty in advange
In the video titled '177cal vs Deer Headshot Point Blank & 20yd' the guy shows that a deer can be killed from a distance of 20 yards, even with a slightly weaker type of Gamo rifle in caliber 177 (I mean, slightly weaker than Gamo Whisper, a lot weaker than Gamo Magnum). There are more videos on youtube where they kill wild boars and domestic pigs with 177 caliber rifles weaker than Gamo Magnum (guys in Brazil shoot domestic pigs in the head with air rifles before slaughtering pigs), kill coyotes or pierce the heads of deer and wild boar. And they do it all with break barrel air rifles in 177 caliber. There is even a video on youtube where a guy in Brazil kills an ox with a shot to the head with a .23 caliber brazilian 'CBC nitro six' break barrel air rifle before slaughtering an ox and there is video where the guy kills a cow with CBC nitro x 1000 air rifle in 22 caliber (CBC nitro six and CBC nitro 1000 rifles are slightly weaker than the Gamo Magnum). I have some of those videos saved. Today’s Gamo air rifles really aren’t toys.
Excellent testing! Definitely took into consideration different parameters and variables to be valuable within a scientific scope as well as a practical survival scenario. Myth buster would have little to add. Appreciate the effort and the work you put into this.
@@HuntShootLive what about lung and internal organ damage? if pellet not stuck in rib it will go as knife through butter, otherwise deer will painfully die of infection
@@user70331 the pellet is so small I wouldn’t count on an organ shot resulting in quick expiration. Groundhogs and squirrels can get away if not shot in the head with a pellet rifle so it’s safe to assume a deer would go very far before dying.
You totally deserve a subscribe for this video! Good work brother. Thanks for the info. I just bought a .22 Swarm Magnum to plink around in my backyard(I have woods behind my house).
Well done. The results show why deer hunting with a small caliber air rifle should probably not be legalized. However, deer hunting with a big bore air rifle is an entirely different story.
Well there you go, good test. I would recommend that if you must take a between the eyes shot with a weak round. Try to be elevated or wait until the head is vertical eating. Don't ask me how I know but, as you see here deflection is highly likely.
@Shootin’ with Uncle Dan Thank you sir! I agree. The between the eye shot was 100% effective in this test at that angle. As you said, still tremendous room for error though. I may be able to do it but I believe I’ll pass. My 7mm works just fine! What’s the old saying… speak softly but carry a big stick!
@@HuntShootLive That is another good thing about the Hornet pellet, with the sharp metal point, it will stick on some angles that domed pellets would deflect off of. I think that Hornet is the best skull shot pellet for that gun period, and it really is accurate enough, like 1" groups at 65 yards. I think that gun is probably in the top 3 for a flat pellet trajectory for a break barrel gun, (and better than some PCP's). I like to sight mine in at 40 yards, use one mill dot at 65 yards, and another 90 yards, with the 16gr Hornet, (865fps). A 18gr JSB, (835fps), took 3 mill dots at 90 yards, sighted in at 40. So I use one mill dot about every 24-25 yards with the Hornets. My old Hatsan .30 cal. (585fps) Break barrel was the other end of the spectrum, at 8 yards per mill dot, and there were 9 of them on that scope. You get lost in the mill dots with anything over 5 I found. :)
Yes you are right. At my begining deer hunting with airrifle, i never get one frontal shot. After gun upgrade( heavier pellets more speed up to 30 Joule in 0.22 calibre Pcp, better accuracy ( under inch group at 35 yard distance) results improved. Not recomended shoot beyond 40 yards distance, if posible 25-30 aim on eye when deer is in angle and if its side shot, two inches behind eye to ear, drop instantly. Neck shot not recomended and lungs or heart its sure, you never find that deer. Hogs are in my area rare, not had oportunity test them. Fox are little bit tough even headshot, if they come close on mouse sqeeking.
The two Palace I wouldn't prefer to use would be the h&m hornets and the GTO lead free only because they both are solid hard and won't deform and we'll go through anything
You should definitely do this test again! Lol except next time use a PCP they're much more accurate and try a few different caliber's,. 177 maybe . 25 & .30, with different types of ammo. I'm sure a lot of your viewers would agree, that they'd like to see another test. For science
@Andrew Avellino I wish I had access to some pcp rifles. I do have access to a .177 swarm magnum. May try to do that one this deer season. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Whether or not the air gun/rifle projectile combination penetrates for a kill, depends on the combined engineering of both gun and/or projectile/bullet. That is if they are meant to do so. Air guns are meant to be restrictive in killing power, that is by the powers that be. I have found over my 76 years, that hardened led balls work the best in the combination of penetration and energy transfer.
What's funny is I have read on UA-cam that people think that on some animals you couldn't penetrate an animals skull with a 7.63x39 they think the round would just bounce off
@BBC MAN It never ceases to amaze me how often I encounter people who have opinions just based on their own thoughts. I don’t even respond to people like that anymore.
@@HuntShootLive Opinions are based on our own thoughts or it would not be your opinion. It's just that most people can't figure out a damn thing anymore. :)
Opinions are based on our own thoughts or it would not be your opinion. It's just that most people can't figure out a damn thing anymore. :) So they rely on the opinions of others, who probably don't know how to figure anything out either. We call the "teachers" today, and it is considered "progressive" to not be sharp enough to figure out they are stupid. :)
@@HuntShootLive you know DeWayne 2022 is going to be the year of 22LR for me at least. I have been running thousands of rounds through my AR's using the CMMG 22 Conversion Kit. I have had it for year's but, for some reason...was not using it. It is reliable, easy to clean and needs little to no cleaning. The accuracy in every AR I have tested has not only been spot on but, if the gun is on with 5.56 at 100 yds. She is on with 22 at 50 yds. Now she is Minute Of Squirrel but, maybe not Minute Of Squirrel Head. Anyhow, if you don't have one....get one. 169 bucks for that with 3 25rd mags. Bargain. The place to get it is Botach and extra mags through them 19 bucks. I order 7 more mags so I can load up 250 rounds. That will put in a decent range session and never have to load. Talk about the ultimate survival tool. A short AR in 5.56 with a silencer and the CMMG. I am gathering up parts to build a 5" 5.56. 1 in 5 twist. I am not sure how 22lr will respond to that twist rate but, I do know most all 22 ammo will be subsonic. I am expecting better terminal performance. A 22 traveling with those rpm's should really act up when it makes contact with flesh. If you have any questions shoot me a text.
I’ve got the gen 1 gamo mag in .22, from what I’ve seen..it could take a medium deer within 20-40yds. Use the right ammo, such as the power flight penetrators or hades rounds.
As usual great video and I expected those results it's a great break barrel and your expertise with guns played a major part in this 👍 the h&n hornets penetrate better than the gamo rockets and I too don't endorse shooting a dear with an air rifle but it appears to be able to take medium size game if the need arises can't see it ever being legal though
Umarex guanlet .25 you can up the pressure to about 905 to 927 fps. After that, the hammer & trigger spring that holds the air back loose thier integrity resulting in unreliable trigger pull. 27 full power shots. Polishing the bolt will make it easy to reload. Use a drier and the handpump to 3000psi. Sorry Gamo, the gauntlet will out perform the rifle tested for $300.
@rocknrollguitar Watch the whole video. This video is me doing the test on a deer that had been killed less than 30 minutes from the time I started the test with the pellet rifle. It was not a dried skull. The results were basically the same as with the dried skulls and no skin and muscle.
Congrats for an incredible amount of patience and effort! In the meantime, Gamo came out with a Swarm Gen 3i break barrels, which includes a model "Fusion magnum", claiming 60+ fpe in its caliber 22 version.
I don't think so. I saw a confused vid about that. The magazine was changed. The power is the same. If it is possible for a break barrel to make 60fpe with ambient air with a piston behind it, it will probably have to have 2 pistons and cock it twice. There is just not enough air with on piston to do that. But one piston in the mag guns can compete with many PCP guns to .22 cal. Bigger than that, and the piston air just can't fill the larger diameter barrel. The only way a single piston/cylinder can make that kind of power is if it is huge, (has to be over twice the size), or the ambient air in the chamber is actually pressurized first somehow.
@@undeadaeon9992. Why should anybody screwing Gamo? AEA HP is a completely different category of gun (high power pcp type). People who need/like brake barrel airguns will find this Gamo model quite appropriate. Others, who need much more powerful gun will go for AEA or some other brand's pcps.
@Joe Botz It is still shooting well. I believe I like the swarm whisper better but it is slower than the magnum. The whisper is less expensive and still very accurate out to 30-40 yards though.
What part of Virginia u from? I stay in suffolk and I would love to go hunting with my fx 35cal . I have nobody to shoot with and don't know where to go to go shooting
I have a Benjamin trail np. Shooting jsb exact 18.3 gr 22 cal. Went completely through a squirrels heart at 60 yards. I've shot a day old for skull at 35 yard's between the eyes. It penetrated the brain no problem. All with the same gun and pellets.
There is a video about a guy with a gamo magnum in .22 taking out 2 hogs. I wouldn't do that unless my survival would depend on it (i'd use the pcp for it, because it's easier to shoot accurately) It won't kill a bear, but i can imagine it killing a human sized animal at a short distance.
@jdmbraceyourself695 People love the swarm magnum but I prefer the whisper. The magnum is so loud and shakes (recoils) badly. Their pcp, the Arrow, is my favorite by far.
Thank you for this extensive testing. I found your channel around the time of the previous tests, I'm pleased to see the results of this one now. I feel quite confident my Crosman F4 (with RC bearing trigger mod and CVLife 3x9-40 airgun scope it's a pellet sniper rifle) using my modified Venturi pellet pens (with velcro to attach and detach from the gun, and the rubber from a 510 vape cartridge placed on the end of the pen to help prevent accidently wasting all of your pellets) pre-loaded with dieseled Crosman 7.4g pointed pellets generating an estimated 26 FPE muzzle energy could produce similar results. I need to make a video shooting that thing, I love my .177 break barrel, I can shoot a hundred rounds and still want to shoot it more.
@gookoo.. oh son.. it's alright to own such an example of an "airgun", and even to have such a poor example of a scope on it. But it's like a moped and fat chicks, fun to ride but you never admit to it, let alone brag about it! Number #1: Never diesel an airgun, the seals weren't designed for that much pressure. Number #2: Never brag about it's accuracy, Crosman barrels are sourced from China and are extremely inaccurate because of the crown cutting. Number#3: Step up to a 22caliber, are you trying to kill mice? Number #4: at the bare minimum spend atleast $300 on a springer to even mention it in a forum. And I'm not a purist, I started off with crap guns too, but I knew better than to brag about them.
@Mr. Doctor Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. In case you haven’t seen it, here is my newest one with the new swarm magnum and a black bear… ua-cam.com/video/n7kDW0ehmGY/v-deo.html
@UPPERDECK89-1 Thanks for the comment! I miss my turkey as well. I really was sad about that. I can’t seem to keep any birds in the mountains where I live. The raccoons and bear make life pretty rough for the birds!
@Flatline I did a video a few weeks ago dieseling 15 grain pellets with the magnum and gained 200+ fps on some shots. That certainly would help any pellet penetrate significantly better.
I bet Lewis and Clark had no issues dropping wild game with their air rifle back before any of us were here. We need to see air rifles make their way back into the hunting world.
They are used for hunting all over the world, with some PCP guns, ("Pre Charged Pneumatic", with a mounted air tank with approx 3000psi in it), able to take the largest game in the world. Some well over 1000 fpe, (foot pounds of energy), but 300 fpe will drop anything in Michigan. They can be great "set-ups" for "pesting" too, a private business that kills off varmints and other unwanted pests around farms and other peoples private land. Air guns are a lot more versatile than a firearm for a job like that, as you can adjust the power, so the lead stays "local" if you shoot in the air, or do not want to damage property behind the target.
I just discovered Tim Wells blowgun and blowfishing setups as well. If you can kill a bear with a blowgun, that's worth looking into as a hunting method!
@@jeremyblackwater439 that's wonderful to hear I'm an air gun Hunter as well I got the Benjamin Bulldog 357 and the aea 50 caliber Challenger it's 4,500 PSI that's my dear rifle
I've been shooting 25-75 pellets everyday with my swarm whisper and Ruger air hawk 2. I can now shoot half quarters consistently at 30 yrds. It's fun but also feels like a useful skill.
@@MichaelSmith420fu You may be disappointed with the magnum as compared to the whisper. The magnum is faster but recoils (actually more like a shake) so much more than the whisper.
How is reliable cooking that sistem Gen2 is it same as cooking classic springer or does rifle has many parts to fill that barel. Only thing why I don't want Gamo cos I don't know how it's reliable air gun gen 2
@@HuntShootLive perfect! I'll look at getting one then! There are quite a few rabbits out by where I live so if I decided to get into gardening I may get one.
@@HuntShootLiveHave you done a trigger upgrade on your gamo rifle yet.I just upgraded both of mine for less than $11,the trigger on one was 3 1/2 and the other was 3 pounds,now both triggers are at 2 pounds
@@HuntShootLive I have fx impact 25 cal 700mm mk2 power plenum that puts out about 95 to 100 fpe if I crack it up with 55 gr slug I think that will kill a deer at 25 ,35 yards with the right shot placement I would shoot one in a survival situation if I really had to because here in TX it's illegal with an air gun
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Very well done and well put together! Much appreciated and I'd agree to say that it's unethical to use the Swarm Magnum combo to take down a deer but under extreme survival circumstances we at least should get to know our rifles very well to place the perfect shot necessary to make such an ethical kill.
a Gamo Magnum with .22 H&N Hornet brass tip pellets should work on Alligator head shots if it is zeroed and accurate
A full grown mule deer, yes a big assed mule deer, was just found dead in thick brush by the Idaho Fish and Game dept. It was killed by a .177 caliber pellet. It was a thru shot that penetratrd both lungs.
@robertwylie5567 They can certainly do it. Not the most ethical choice and that is why they are illegal for that use in most states but they can do it with the right shot placement.
You completely answered all of my questions and then some. One of the best videos made. I thank you, sir, for your time, patience and expertise! Well done!
@LeadingEdge777 Thank you very much! I am glad you found it helpful. Thank you for watching and for the comment!
I've done a bunch of penetration test with the same gun. The Rocket has good penetration, but the H+N Hornet is the ultimate 22 penetrator. At 10 yards it will go through 8 gauge steel or pass completely through a coconut with ease.
@Frank Maze I keep hearing a lot of very good reports on the hornets. Probably gonna have to get some.
@@HuntShootLive the Rocket would put a helluva dent in the 8 gauge, but not go through. In other tests the Hornet went through 2 coconuts at 10yrds but I was never able to replicate it. The best I got was passing through the first and getting stopped in the middle of the second coconut. But that tells me it would probably pass right on through a deer's skull at 20+yds. 🤠
Anything is good at 10 yards. :) But I am with you with the Hornet in this gun. If you are good with springers and have a good scope, this sucker with that pellet is a 70-80 yard small game head shot gun. It flies as well as any great domed pellet, (to my amazement foe a tipped pellet), and the quality is fantastic. The Hornet skirts are thicker than the rockets and it is often I get a 200 pc tin with no dented skirts. The thin skirts are the downfall of the otherwise very good rocket pellet. This gun has enough pressure to blow up the Hornet skirt for a good fit with the riflings/barrel bore. The Hornet flies so well, I bought over 2000 of them,---then my gun broke.
After you clean your barrel, make sure there is no oily grime under the magazine system and the breech face,---or the gun will get damaged. The plastic covers up the breech face, and it was out of sight, out of mind for me.
The first shot I did after cleaning it dieseled and sounded like a .22LR. I found the pellet in the snow, (I think a JSB dome), and the skirt is blown up like a perfect ball room dress to .300" in diameter, (2mm larger than the barrel, from the dieseled pressure). I think that is the ID of the plastic muzzle.
Yessir I shoot them in .177 and .22 both go straight thru a 400 page paper back. Love the hornets just wish they could make em a lil cheaper I cry every time I run out and have to buy more
True that fam, the Hornet with the gamo magnum in 22. is a deadly rifle.
Appreciate you taking the time and effort to do this test. Also I believe the myth buster guys have another saying, “ Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”. 🔥
@Let There Be Fish Truth!!!
Thank you for your hard work. I like to do a lot of research before and after a purchase and just love getting information like this that I haven’t seen anyone else do before.
The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.
@MrEmarioyoshibro Definitely not a toy!
Excellent video! thank you very much. THAT pellet gun is a beast and since ammo is so damn expensive it is actually a very fun alternative
Amazing! Very well put together and incredibly informing. Thank you man! I appreciate watching real educational videos about guns.
@Hrroman Slaparsso’ Thank you for watching and for the comment! I am glad you found it helpful.
Great video. Very interesting. I personally own Gamo Swarm Magnum 22 gen1, Gamo Magnum Jungle 22 (single-shot rifle), Gamo G-Magnum 177 (single-shot rifle) and Gamo Swarm Maxxim 177 gen1. I like Gamo because for a relatively small amount of money you get very powerful rifles. At a short distance, I get the deepest penetration with Gamo Magnum in 177 caliber with H&N Hornet pellets that achieve high subsonic velocity. With 22 caliber Gamo rifles also H&N Hornet pellets give excellent penetration. God bless!
@KatolikKreacija I have seen a lot of comments about the hornets. I’ve not tested them but they look like they would penetrate very well.
@@HuntShootLive in 22 nothing even comes close to the Hornet when it comes to penetration, even fairly thick (8 gauge) steel at 10yds.
Best hypothetical survival scenario, “orange parachute cord snare traps on frequent deer trails” save the gamo ammo for for rabbit, squirrels, etc
Better with a cross bow. Whether or not the air gun/rifle projectile combination penetrates for a kill, depends on the combined engineering of both gun and/or projectile/bullet. That is if they are meant to do so. Air guns are meant to be restrictive in killing power, that is by the powers that be. I have found over my 76 years, that hardened led balls work the best in the combination of penetration and energy transfer.
Thanks for all the work you've put in to this. Social Media rules dictate that no matter how well you cover your bases, someone will be offended and/or threaten violence to you and your family. Just like with 22LR, these types of questions will no doubt continue to be asked as long as airgun hunting continues to exist. It's important that we continue to investigate them. 👍
MAN YOU ARE AMAZING TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT TO DO THAT FOR ALL OF US MAN I GIVE YOU THUMBS UP ON ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS
@David S Thank you! I appreciate you. It did take some time but it was fun. And I just had to know if it would do it!
The swarm magnum gen 3I is coming out sometime soon It looks more ergonomic than the gen 2 an they removed that steel finish that good because that just rusts.
@Hardy B I’ll have to look up the Gen 3. Have not read about it yet.
Love that your little one popped in! I have 6 kids and one of the only reason I haven't created content at home is because they pop in whenever they want, may reconsider my content shooting options haha 😂
@@reflectivesessions Haha! Let them pop in. The only time UA-cam has a cow is when I’ve tried to show my kids shooting. Most of that content gets removed so I stopped trying. But they can definitely be in videos. I have my kids hunt videos on the channel also I just can’t actually show them independently shooting a firearm unassisted.
I’ve taken 2 white tail down with Gamo varmint stalker .177. It’s not easy, you need to be very precise in hitting the heart. After hitting one in the heart, it only ran about 20’ before dropping dead. The second one ran off to about 40’ away before dropping dead. Both were accurate dead shots using Gamo Raptor gold plated pellets in .177.
When I was young a friend's family owned a local slaughterhouse, they stunned cows, and hogs with 22 short. After the slid to the floor their throats were cut, and they bled out. The animals never showed any sign of pain, much more humane kill than a center mass shot typical of hunting. The problem with hunting with a 22 short, or 22 pellet gun is getting that perfect shot between the eyes. Their are hunters who do use air rifles for wild pigs using between the eyes head shots, they are very successful. Even small pigs have a very hard scull, probably tougher than a deer.
I was like 15 and got sent to Pennsylvania to stay out of trouble and I worked at a dairy farm and every once in a great while a cow would step in a woodchuck hole and break its leg. The farmer was so busy that he didnt have time to deal with her so he said I could have her . so I got my family together and my uncle used a .22 and shot her between the eyes and it knocked her out cold. I jumped on her and cut her throat. The idea is that you knock the cow out instead of killing so when you cut the throat the heart will pump most of the blood out. Because there is so much blood in a cow. IV had people call me a lier and say that .22 go through the skull everytime but iv shot 3 cows with cheap federal brick ammo and it didnt go in the skull. I never tried .22 shorts but I'm sure it knocks em out cold just the same. But they damn sure dont suffer. I think that you would drop a smaller deer with this guys air rifle if you hit it in the head from a shorter distance. IV seen .22 shorts and .22 CB caps drop a deer from 40 yards with head shots.
Yeah the .22 doesn’t actually kill them. It’s the knife to bleed em that actually kills them. It only knocks em out. Ive seen slaughterhouses where the guy was shooting a horse and on many occasions it would take multiple shots to the head before it would get knocked out or killed at that point.
Thanks for your efforts!!!!! alot of work went into this!
I have this gun. It is a 100 yard gun, (but not much energy left that far out). When you get the technique down for shooting a springer, (basically, don't touch the gun at all,--lighten the trigger cause a gun just floating on your hands is easy to move.), you will get those groups at 80 yards, (if the scope and all is working properly).
The gun shoots a lot of good pellets well, but I found most of the H&N pellets to have the best quality, (no dented skirts like those rockets, that's a 20fpe difference), and those Hornet pellets with the metal tip fly as well as any great domed pellet I have used. Accurate enough for head shots to 70 yards on small game,---if your not touching the damn gun! :) PS, when I took my cheek and shoulder pressure off the stock before pulling the trigger,---groups got smaller.
Can't get parts easily from Gamo though, so I will buy an extra gun.
Very satisfying great video sir!!! As a Gamo swarm magnum gen 2 owner!!! I think i am going to watch this great video again and again for maybe a thousand times!!!hehehe. More power and God bless sir!!! and of course more videos about Gamo Magnum tooo...
@Jim Olarte Thank you! And God bless you and yours!
True dedication and effort was put into this video. Thank you for your work and info 🙏
@@daddyj7901 Thank you for watching! I’m glad you found it useful.
FYI -- I also have the Gamo Swarm Magnum Gen 2 .22 cal. (27 FPE). It's a good break barrel, but the scope is not. I also have the Umarex Gauntlet 2 .25 cal. (56 FPE) which can place 5 rounds within a nickel diameter at 60 yards with a 6-24X Hawke scope (which costs 1.5X more than the Gauntlet 2). Penetration using JSB King Heavy 33.95 gr pellets at 60 yds will pass through two 3/4-inch pine boards. The Gamo Swarm will just +/- pass a pellet through one 3/4-inch board at point blank range. Gamo Swarm = No Deer, No pigs. You would need head shots with at least 50 FPE for small pigs, and 100 FPE with a .30 cal. pellet or .22 cal. LR for a medium sized deer in order to be humane.
You should watch some of keith warrens and tim wells videos hunting hogs with airguns.
Y’all keep putting the magnum against a PCP rifle price doesn’t compare a compressor (a good one not that Chinese junk 6-700 plus for a portable a airtank (one that you will get more than 1.5 charges from 600+) a hand pump 300 plus and that separates the boys from the men this is a working man price vs a real investment also absolutely will knock down smaller hogs coyotes medium game with no problem and who is trying to hit anything further than 50 yards without the intent to be inhumane anyway
@@Whatthedread Yong heng Chinese compressor, $200-$400 wherever you may get one. Or you get yourself a hand pump for $40. And a diana stormrider for $210 BRAND NEW. Getting into pcp isn't necessarily an investment. But it sure as hell can be if you want it to be. And you can definitely take humane shots past 50yds.
i think the Gamo Swarm Magnum Pro Gen3i 10X Air Rifle 177cal with gamo lethal pellets could do just the same :)
@sapientemsapientem80 I did a similar test on a black bear using the Swarm Mag Gen3i .177.
ua-cam.com/video/n7kDW0ehmGY/v-deo.html
@@HuntShootLivethanks i will tjeck your video out ... do you know if the Swarm Mag Gen3i .177 is worth the money i mean can it hit precise enough for small game ty in advange
Thanks for all the tremendous work that you put out in the making of these videos 😊
@dana44169 I appreciate you watching.
In the video titled '177cal vs Deer Headshot Point Blank & 20yd' the guy shows that a deer can be killed from a distance of 20 yards, even with a slightly weaker type of Gamo rifle in caliber 177 (I mean, slightly weaker than Gamo Whisper, a lot weaker than Gamo Magnum). There are more videos on youtube where they kill wild boars and domestic pigs with 177 caliber rifles weaker than Gamo Magnum (guys in Brazil shoot domestic pigs in the head with air rifles before slaughtering pigs), kill coyotes or pierce the heads of deer and wild boar. And they do it all with break barrel air rifles in 177 caliber. There is even a video on youtube where a guy in Brazil kills an ox with a shot to the head with a .23 caliber brazilian 'CBC nitro six' break barrel air rifle before slaughtering an ox and there is video where the guy kills a cow with CBC nitro x 1000 air rifle in 22 caliber (CBC nitro six and CBC nitro 1000 rifles are slightly weaker than the Gamo Magnum). I have some of those videos saved. Today’s Gamo air rifles really aren’t toys.
Excellent testing! Definitely took into consideration different parameters and variables to be valuable within a scientific scope as well as a practical survival scenario. Myth buster would have little to add. Appreciate the effort and the work you put into this.
@TJ Greene Thank you! It took some time but was definitely fun.
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@@HuntShootLive what about lung and internal organ damage? if pellet not stuck in rib it will go as knife through butter, otherwise deer will painfully die of infection
@@user70331 the pellet is so small I wouldn’t count on an organ shot resulting in quick expiration. Groundhogs and squirrels can get away if not shot in the head with a pellet rifle so it’s safe to assume a deer would go very far before dying.
Agree
You totally deserve a subscribe for this video! Good work brother. Thanks for the info. I just bought a .22 Swarm Magnum to plink around in my backyard(I have woods behind my house).
@andrewlightbody4221 Thank you! Check out my playlists. Should have a few more you will enjoy I hope.
I put a mildot scope on mine. Hitting dimes at 35yards. 3 inch targets at 50 yards and smacking 6 inch metal pot lids at 100 yards !!
Que perdigón utilizo Amigo
Well done. The results show why deer hunting with a small caliber air rifle should probably not be legalized. However, deer hunting with a big bore air rifle is an entirely different story.
Well there you go, good test. I would recommend that if you must take a between the eyes shot with a weak round. Try to be elevated or wait until the head is vertical eating. Don't ask me how I know but, as you see here deflection is highly likely.
@Shootin’ with Uncle Dan Thank you sir! I agree. The between the eye shot was 100% effective in this test at that angle. As you said, still tremendous room for error though. I may be able to do it but I believe I’ll pass. My 7mm works just fine! What’s the old saying… speak softly but carry a big stick!
Yep@@HuntShootLive
@@HuntShootLive That is another good thing about the Hornet pellet, with the sharp metal point, it will stick on some angles that domed pellets would deflect off of. I think that Hornet is the best skull shot pellet for that gun period, and it really is accurate enough, like 1" groups at 65 yards. I think that gun is probably in the top 3 for a flat pellet trajectory for a break barrel gun, (and better than some PCP's). I like to sight mine in at 40 yards, use one mill dot at 65 yards, and another 90 yards, with the 16gr Hornet, (865fps). A 18gr JSB, (835fps), took 3 mill dots at 90 yards, sighted in at 40. So I use one mill dot about every 24-25 yards with the Hornets. My old Hatsan .30 cal. (585fps) Break barrel was the other end of the spectrum, at 8 yards per mill dot, and there were 9 of them on that scope. You get lost in the mill dots with anything over 5 I found. :)
Yes you are right. At my begining deer hunting with airrifle, i never get one frontal shot. After gun upgrade( heavier pellets more speed up to 30 Joule in 0.22 calibre Pcp, better accuracy ( under inch group at 35 yard distance) results improved. Not recomended shoot beyond 40 yards distance, if posible 25-30 aim on eye when deer is in angle and if its side shot, two inches behind eye to ear, drop instantly.
Neck shot not recomended and lungs or heart its sure, you never find that deer. Hogs are in my area rare, not had oportunity test them. Fox are little bit tough even headshot, if they come close on mouse sqeeking.
I THINK THE SHOT PLACEMENT MUST BE A PRIORITY NO MATTER IF YOU ARE SHOOTING A AIRGUN OR A FIRE ARM..the deal is take the game down fast and clean.....
🔥 damn brother... You're the modern day deer slayer. Great job keeping meat in the freezer.🔥
The two Palace I wouldn't prefer to use would be the h&m hornets and the GTO lead free only because they both are solid hard and won't deform and we'll go through anything
thanks for all that hard work
You should definitely do this test again! Lol except next time use a PCP they're much more accurate and try a few different caliber's,. 177 maybe . 25 & .30, with different types of ammo. I'm sure a lot of your viewers would agree, that they'd like to see another test. For science
@Andrew Avellino I wish I had access to some pcp rifles. I do have access to a .177 swarm magnum. May try to do that one this deer season. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
You are so f***** awesome! Thanks for this. Its great for young kids and all people to see these are very lethal and meant to be treated as real guns.
Whether or not the air gun/rifle projectile combination penetrates for a kill, depends on the combined engineering of both gun and/or projectile/bullet. That is if they are meant to do so. Air guns are meant to be restrictive in killing power, that is by the powers that be. I have found over my 76 years, that hardened led balls work the best in the combination of penetration and energy transfer.
I been watching, respect your motives, answer is complete for survival for me
. Thank you, and good health.
@Wayne Westfall Thank you!
Great Honest Review!! U Never know until you know.. Keep it up.. New Subscriber here.
@keepitreel Thank you! Glad to have you on the Hunt Shoot Live team!
What's funny is I have read on UA-cam that people think that on some animals you couldn't penetrate an animals skull with a 7.63x39 they think the round would just bounce off
@BBC MAN It never ceases to amaze me how often I encounter people who have opinions just based on their own thoughts. I don’t even respond to people like that anymore.
@@HuntShootLive Opinions are based on our own thoughts or it would not be your opinion. It's just that most people can't figure out a damn thing anymore. :)
Opinions are based on our own thoughts or it would not be your opinion. It's just that most people can't figure out a damn thing anymore. :)
So they rely on the opinions of others, who probably don't know how to figure anything out either. We call the "teachers" today, and it is considered "progressive" to not be sharp enough to figure out they are stupid. :)
I took a 120lb spike at 50-60yd with 22 trail Benjamin break barrel in Alaska. Heart shot right in the arm pit
@Chapo What type of pellet did you use?
It was crossman Walmart stuff. Probably round nose.
@@chapo1855 I'm sure a pellet with good expansion on impact would do the trick in the vitals.
🔥🤗 little man gonna be a UA-camr like daddy 🤗🔥
I really like your videos would love a update to the gamo wisper 22 just got it the other day and there's only a few reviews of it thanks!
@Dallas Boyd Thank you! I will be working on an update with the whisper probably with the Gamo rockets.
Very good video, I’ve been wondering about this ever since I purchase my gamo magnum…
Moral of the story, probably not a good idea to go deer hunting with a 22 break barrel.
No question it can kill a deer in a pinch but, a 22LR would be
much better.
Definitely. And you could still reasonably carry a crazy amount of 22 rounds without much inconvenience.
@@HuntShootLive you know DeWayne 2022 is going to be the year of 22LR for me at least. I have been running thousands of rounds through my AR's using the CMMG 22 Conversion Kit. I have had it for year's but, for some reason...was not using it. It is reliable, easy to clean and needs little to no cleaning. The accuracy in every AR I have tested has not only been spot on but, if the gun is on with 5.56 at 100 yds. She is on with 22 at 50 yds. Now she is Minute Of Squirrel but, maybe not Minute Of Squirrel Head. Anyhow, if you don't have one....get one. 169 bucks for that with 3 25rd mags. Bargain. The place to get it is Botach and extra mags through them 19 bucks. I order 7 more mags so I can load up 250 rounds. That will put in a decent range session and never have to load. Talk about the ultimate survival tool. A short AR in 5.56 with a silencer and the CMMG. I am gathering up parts to build a 5" 5.56. 1 in 5 twist. I am not sure how 22lr will respond to that twist rate but, I do know most all 22 ammo will be subsonic. I am expecting better terminal performance. A 22 traveling with those rpm's should really act up when it makes contact with flesh. If you have any questions shoot me a text.
I’ve got the gen 1 gamo mag in .22, from what I’ve seen..it could take a medium deer within 20-40yds. Use the right ammo, such as the power flight penetrators or hades rounds.
Don’t do it.
As usual great video and I expected those results it's a great break barrel and your expertise with guns played a major part in this 👍 the h&n hornets penetrate better than the gamo rockets and I too don't endorse shooting a dear with an air rifle but it appears to be able to take medium size game if the need arises can't see it ever being legal though
@Jibril Saifulah Thank you for watching and for the comment!
Very accurate and informative video.
Good to see a future hunter there with you!
Umarex guanlet .25 you can up the pressure to about 905 to 927 fps. After that, the hammer & trigger spring that holds the air back loose thier integrity resulting in unreliable trigger pull. 27 full power shots. Polishing the bolt will make it easy to reload. Use a drier and the handpump to 3000psi. Sorry Gamo, the gauntlet will out perform the rifle tested for $300.
Thanks for doing all the work on this man! 🍻
@Akira Thank you! Just did another with a black bear…
ua-cam.com/video/n7kDW0ehmGY/v-deo.html
Keep in mind that dried skulls are way more brittle,
but I do think it is possible to make an ethical shot. With a decent air rifle
@rocknrollguitar Watch the whole video. This video is me doing the test on a deer that had been killed less than 30 minutes from the time I started the test with the pellet rifle. It was not a dried skull. The results were basically the same as with the dried skulls and no skin and muscle.
Super awesome Review....and what it does to the air gun community is very valuable. Great video Subscribed!!!! God Bless...Amen
@Crimson_626 Thank you!
thank you. Informative. Decent, hands on tests. Good info.
@1thatdreams Thank you!
Hey Mr man nice video really like it. What kind of scope do you have on that gun ?
@orion m42 Thank you! That is the factory Gamo scope that came with the rifle.
@@HuntShootLive thank you for your quick response. New subscriber. Be blessed
@@orionm427 Thank you! Same to you!!!
Congrats for an incredible amount of patience and effort! In the meantime, Gamo came out with a Swarm Gen 3i break barrels, which includes a model "Fusion magnum", claiming 60+ fpe in its caliber 22 version.
I don't think so. I saw a confused vid about that. The magazine was changed. The power is the same. If it is possible for a break barrel to make 60fpe with ambient air with a piston behind it, it will probably have to have 2 pistons and cock it twice. There is just not enough air with on piston to do that. But one piston in the mag guns can compete with many PCP guns to .22 cal. Bigger than that, and the piston air just can't fill the larger diameter barrel.
The only way a single piston/cylinder can make that kind of power is if it is huge, (has to be over twice the size), or the ambient air in the chamber is actually pressurized first somehow.
@@EarthSurferUSA Well, that's what official info says: they claim 1650 fps with a light (PBA) .22 pellet...
Lol screw gamo. Go over to AEA. I use the HP max 50 cal. 4500PSI 235 grain @760FPS.
@@undeadaeon9992. Why should anybody screwing Gamo? AEA HP is a completely different category of gun (high power pcp type). People who need/like brake barrel airguns will find this Gamo model quite appropriate. Others, who need much more powerful gun will go for AEA or some other brand's pcps.
@@DrAgan_tortojed AEA makes .22. still no point getting a gamo unless you like cheap entry stuff.
Got to love those Gamo's man, I have the Magnum and Maxxium haven't taken a deer, yet 😁.
I have a Hatsan .22 cal. magnum 125 that shoots at at almost 1,000 fps . That will kill anything 100 lbs. and under .
How is the gun holding up? Really thinking about getting a generation 3
@Joe Botz It is still shooting well. I believe I like the swarm whisper better but it is slower than the magnum. The whisper is less expensive and still very accurate out to 30-40 yards though.
@@HuntShootLive thanks for the reply
Enjoyed your video bro 👍 thank you
What part of Virginia u from? I stay in suffolk and I would love to go hunting with my fx 35cal . I have nobody to shoot with and don't know where to go to go shooting
@Roy Crowe I’m in Southwest. Hard to find places here also unless you have access to private land. I’m not familiar with your area.
@@HuntShootLive yes u have ro have private land . I didn't know it is illegal to hunt with a airgun .
I have a Benjamin trail np. Shooting jsb exact 18.3 gr 22 cal. Went completely through a squirrels heart at 60 yards. I've shot a day old for skull at 35 yard's between the eyes. It penetrated the brain no problem. All with the same gun and pellets.
@Bobby Rainey Sounds like a good combo! I hear a lot of good about Benjamin.
Can you hunt with a larger cal. air rifle?
Yeah here in Virginia the caliber is .35 minimum
I have a barra arms black ops sniper s in 22 caliber and it punches thru a 200 pg phone book at 100 yards there wild
Yeah I just looked those rifles up under ideal conditions they move a pellet at 1250 fps … That’s .22 long rifle speeds
There is a video about a guy with a gamo magnum in .22 taking out 2 hogs. I wouldn't do that unless my survival would depend on it (i'd use the pcp for it, because it's easier to shoot accurately) It won't kill a bear, but i can imagine it killing a human sized animal at a short distance.
Good job, Gen2, 10x, I"m shooting the .177 Maxxim. I don't believe the use of an air rifle is legal here in Missouri either.thanks
This is awesome Works great is it a store easy to clean
@21dirtyj Follow the link in my video description for the product.
I would think a good heavy hollow point to the neck would be the way to go with a air 22.
I'm definitely a fan of the Gamo
@jdmbraceyourself695 People love the swarm magnum but I prefer the whisper. The magnum is so loud and shakes (recoils) badly. Their pcp, the Arrow, is my favorite by far.
Thank you for this extensive testing. I found your channel around the time of the previous tests, I'm pleased to see the results of this one now. I feel quite confident my Crosman F4 (with RC bearing trigger mod and CVLife 3x9-40 airgun scope it's a pellet sniper rifle) using my modified Venturi pellet pens (with velcro to attach and detach from the gun, and the rubber from a 510 vape cartridge placed on the end of the pen to help prevent accidently wasting all of your pellets) pre-loaded with dieseled Crosman 7.4g pointed pellets generating an estimated 26 FPE muzzle energy could produce similar results. I need to make a video shooting that thing, I love my .177 break barrel, I can shoot a hundred rounds and still want to shoot it more.
@Gookoo Sounds like you have a solid setup. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
@gookoo.. oh son.. it's alright to own such an example of an "airgun", and even to have such a poor example of a scope on it. But it's like a moped and fat chicks, fun to ride but you never admit to it, let alone brag about it! Number #1: Never diesel an airgun, the seals weren't designed for that much pressure. Number #2: Never brag about it's accuracy, Crosman barrels are sourced from China and are extremely inaccurate because of the crown cutting. Number#3: Step up to a 22caliber, are you trying to kill mice? Number #4: at the bare minimum spend atleast $300 on a springer to even mention it in a forum. And I'm not a purist, I started off with crap guns too, but I knew better than to brag about them.
Just hypothetically I’m pretty sure a good shot of a 177gamolethal pellet with the gamo g magnum will take out a roe dear
@Urri You are probably right.
@@HuntShootLive ohh I can tel
In 2023 my guess is that most people have a .22 and 45-50 fpe...That can hit where you aim..
@sel724 Then they have a deadly weapon for sure.
Sharing, we will all need things like this, to hunt with very soon!!!
Badass video man
@Mr. Doctor Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. In case you haven’t seen it, here is my newest one with the new swarm magnum and a black bear…
ua-cam.com/video/n7kDW0ehmGY/v-deo.html
I definitely gotta pick on of these up
@Freedom1776 It’s a great air rifle. Inexpensive way to scratch the trigger finger itch!
I just ordered one friday. It should be shipped tomorrow.
@kareem ebanks It hits hard for sure!
@@HuntShootLive t
Thanks
@@HuntShootLive What's the biggest game you killed with it?
@@kareemebanks3785 We can’t hunt big game with it where I live. I have only killed squirrels and groundhogs with mine.
@@HuntShootLive ground hogs are a decent size 👌
I would want the .30 cal. AEA Challenger . air rifle .
HEY BROTHER I MISS WATCHING YOUR GAMO VIDEOS AND I MISS HEARING YOUR TURKEY THAT THE BEAR GOT TO BACK THEN.
@UPPERDECK89-1 Thanks for the comment! I miss my turkey as well. I really was sad about that. I can’t seem to keep any birds in the mountains where I live. The raccoons and bear make life pretty rough for the birds!
So then I think a 25 would do the trick . great video. stay safe.
Top rear quarter of the skull is the brain box!! Aim for the centre of that!
One could only imagine what a dieseled H&N Hornet would do. I imagine a good 20% increase in velocity.
@Flatline I did a video a few weeks ago dieseling 15 grain pellets with the magnum and gained 200+ fps on some shots. That certainly would help any pellet penetrate significantly better.
I bet Lewis and Clark had no issues dropping wild game with their air rifle back before any of us were here. We need to see air rifles make their way back into the hunting world.
They are used for hunting all over the world, with some PCP guns, ("Pre Charged Pneumatic", with a mounted air tank with approx 3000psi in it), able to take the largest game in the world. Some well over 1000 fpe, (foot pounds of energy), but 300 fpe will drop anything in Michigan. They can be great "set-ups" for "pesting" too, a private business that kills off varmints and other unwanted pests around farms and other peoples private land. Air guns are a lot more versatile than a firearm for a job like that, as you can adjust the power, so the lead stays "local" if you shoot in the air, or do not want to damage property behind the target.
They’re getting to be pretty popular for taking game. I personally hunt with air guns exclusively
I just discovered Tim Wells blowgun and blowfishing setups as well. If you can kill a bear with a blowgun, that's worth looking into as a hunting method!
@@theschmidts7727 that cold steel blowgun is very lethal. I’ve only killed mice and wasp with mine though 😆
@@jeremyblackwater439 that's wonderful to hear I'm an air gun Hunter as well I got the Benjamin Bulldog 357 and the aea 50 caliber Challenger it's 4,500 PSI that's my dear rifle
I'm considering buying a swarm Magnum today. It's Amazon day or w/e so I should get a good discount.
I've been shooting 25-75 pellets everyday with my swarm whisper and Ruger air hawk 2. I can now shoot half quarters consistently at 30 yrds. It's fun but also feels like a useful skill.
@@MichaelSmith420fu You may be disappointed with the magnum as compared to the whisper. The magnum is faster but recoils (actually more like a shake) so much more than the whisper.
How is reliable cooking that sistem Gen2 is it same as cooking classic springer or does rifle has many parts to fill that barel. Only thing why I don't want Gamo cos I don't know how it's reliable air gun gen 2
I have about 500 shots in this one. Works well so far.
Next year.. Try neilson speciality ammo (NSA) slugs....
Would the Gammo be a good first air rifle for pest control?
@Riley McGuire Yes, it would be a great first air rifle.
@@HuntShootLive perfect! I'll look at getting one then! There are quite a few rabbits out by where I live so if I decided to get into gardening I may get one.
Well done video.
@telcomscott Thank you! Thanks for watching and for the comment.
You can take down a sasquatch with that gun 😀👍
@Angels Devils Haha! It’s my weapon of choice when I hunt squatch!
I have a sort attention span so would you say that air gun would kill a deer? How heavy is the deer I’m curious
@Jose0o Oh come on! You can skip to the end.
Great info
Just wondering where in VA you are located. I'm in Grayson Co. myself. Take care.
@MANPAD I’m in Tazewell.
You should really try air dieseling with just a tiny dab of petroleum jelly
@Joseph Valade Several others have mentioned trying petroleum jelly. I do plan on trying that. Thank you!
Have you ever tried the jsb exact jumbo beast 33,956 grain,they shoot great in my gamo 22,nice video 😊
@dana44169 I have not tried those. Will have to check them out. Thanks for watching!
@@HuntShootLiveHave you done a trigger upgrade on your gamo rifle yet.I just upgraded both of mine for less than $11,the trigger on one was 3 1/2 and the other was 3 pounds,now both triggers are at 2 pounds
@@dana44169 I have not. I will have to look that up.
@@HuntShootLivelook up gamo match trigger for under $10.00 ? From Air gun detectives and I ordered my screws from eBay 2 screws less than $11 😊
I have a Benjamin Maurader .25 cal. I’m willing to bet, this would penetrate the skull on a more regular basis.
Awesome video sir great info 👍thanks for sharing bsafe buddy
@Chris Figueroa Thank you for watching!
@@HuntShootLive I have fx impact 25 cal 700mm mk2 power plenum that puts out about 95 to 100 fpe if I crack it up with 55 gr slug I think that will kill a deer at 25 ,35 yards with the right shot placement I would shoot one in a survival situation if I really had to because here in TX it's illegal with an air gun
Can it-yes, in the perfect situation. Should it-never, there is never a perfect situation in real world scenarios.
Awesome video
Man really said he’s not dead enough
@Clapped Squirrel What?