There'll be a chance to see these trees up close and personal soon, although I'd be grateful if you could leave the axes at home! Parts of this monster-build will be on display to the public for the first time at Salute 2020/21 in London on 13th November. Do feel free to come and say hello if you're there...
@@GeekGamingScenics And the spray bottles get clogged at some point too so they don't spread evenly or with a fine mist anymore. Great idea for that garden sprayer Luke!
ya I've seen everyone who makes gaming boards switch back and forth between hands as they are sealing off the tables. and Luke just set it on auto...good stuff man.
This video has so much great info packed in. The liquid latex dip, the garden sprayer for the scenic cement, the contact cement vs super glue - this is why I love your content, thanks for this man!
Seconded. Regardless of how the trunk is made, you've set a high-quality standard for wargaming trees. The glimpses into your mass-production line for them was informative. Perhaps you could review how you plan and prepare for mass builds like that? Not in detail, perhaps a few minutes on your process.
As someone who also makes LARP props you could possibly speed up the process by adding craft acrylic in 3 to 1 ratio with your liquid latex you could colour and coat in one go
"a fat lad wi a load of wotsits on his fingers", love an unexpected laugh when I'm learning new things. You're so fab, thanks for all the brilliant tutorials.❤️
Brilliant vid. I live in Australia and use the uprooted roots of woody weeds (a byproduct of my work) as basic tree armatures (because free is cheaper than cheap) Many of the techniques you showed here are completely transferrable and will work well to make my next batch of trees better looking and harder wearing. Fanks bruvvah!
I did one of those tree armatures with seafoam using the geekgaming base ready glue. I found as long as you hold it in place for a second it held it to the tree much better than other glues.
Thank you for your videos they help me show my nieces and nephew that they can use their imagination in the hobby and that their projects will take time.
Liquid latex is fantastic. I used to use it back in the day for larp costumes and weapons. You can mix it with most acrylic or latex based paint just stay clear of paints with strong chemical scents (terpentine, etc) and untested spraypaints. Some of these can melt latex and results in a stickyness that can last for years. It can probably do everything PVA does. Just differently. Its a more flexible alternative. Fun fact for Larp weapons we found 3 dips was adequate to make a weapon that would last for years.
i use sponge to get stronger trees. First i mix it, then i use a mix of colour and white glue. Takes very long to dry but it's rocksolid. Since it gets smaller at it dries, a second passage is necessary. It's great for dense trees and hedges.
This was so fun! I have always wanted to make a gaming table that was coverd in trees but as you mentioned, I am always afraid of them losing too much flock all over the place. And honeslty 60 trees in two days! Wow, I feel like that is pretty managable, even for myself who is a small-time hobbyist. Thanks for another great video!
You've got a very robust bush, Mr Fellows. I bet it can take a right pounding. The latest Chuck Tingle book, "Pounded in the Bush by a Fat Lad with Whotsit Fingers"
After the liquid latex it's pretty similar to how I've done trees, but your starting point looks so much better! Definitely going to have to see how easily I can get the other materials, I love the woodland scenics armatures.
OK, so normally I just roll my eyes at the thumbnails on UA-cam videos, but I have to say that yours legitimately made me chuckle. Love your channel, your work is fantastic!
As a railway modeler I was surprised to see a wargamer using Woodland Scenics products as they a mostly known as a model railway scenery company. Although your trees are designed for wargaming they would also be perfect for a portable model railway that goes to shows. As for a home layout you could skip the last bit.
Don't know how you learned your skills but you've nailed it. I'm not a wargammer but I really like to watch your videos. No one I know around here plays games and that's a shame because it really seems like fun. Being a old guy with few friends sometimes sucks. 😂
@@GeekGamingScenics A small town in Southeast Kentucky. Lots of drug abuse and poverty. Have you ever done a video on how you got started and learned all your skills ? That would be interesting. You do amazing work Sir. And I'll be watching.
those latex skin webbings look like tent caterpillar webbing. So if you left them on, you could have trees suffering a severe tent caterpillar infestation. Or possibly Mirkwood spiders, if you're doing fantasy terrain. Add a few mini spiders to that, and it would look rather convincing.
Absolutely maganificient they look really good! Two questions. 1.Have you ever painted the trees after with an airbrush? 2. if its trade secret or whatever, how much did these cost to make minus all of your labour? Like if I wanted to make them here in Australia (yes I can't sleep) how much would it cost me?
That's amazing! I'd previously been dubious of sea foam's ability to stand up to the most destructive force known to humanity - players! Now though, I have to say I'm a convert. Great work Luke!
Whoever playes Warhammer Total War knows that all trees are the strongest elements on the battlefield, totally undestructible. Glad to see this represented in the tabletop too ;-)
Yes I'd 100% agree with Aaron R and for a change the end result is what will be looked at. What about shell damaged trees or had you forgotten about them on a battlefield? Cheers Luke and your mate.
Couldn’t stop laughing at “if it can take an axe, it can take a fat lad with wotsits all over ‘is fingers”. Even writing it made me laugh again. Brilliant. Great tutorial as well!
Interesting and informative as always. 👍 I don't really make trees, but have to give this a try. (: And, totally missed that you had opened up a site for EU. ❤
I was not convinced by the durability of Sea Foam so for my trees I used the same armatures but used a kind of 3D foam that is put in gutter to keep out leaves. Like a very porous sponge structure. Tore it bits then painted it before using. Might be good if someone isn't making so many trees that they can justify filling a bucket with latex.
Have you considered how Liquid Latex changes over time? I've used it a lot for prosthetics and they simply break down over 6 months because it's an organic material. Might be ok under all the varnish and sealer but just interested how they will stand up over time.
these are sick, man all your tutorials make me wish i had enough space to make big boards regularly. thanks for sharing def wanna try this in the future
Luke, what did you do to prevent or hide those unsightly drips of the contact adhesive? Rest of the build is pure genius, not least the garden sprayer!
They look great. How much do you think each tree costs in the end, £5 or £6? I'd love to have a good copse or orchard for my rank'n'file gaming but it's usability is a concern. Does a magnet solution work well for trees (so I can remove it for a 20 unit base). Or maybe a short bolt, with a nut on the base/ground that the tree could be screwed into (might take to long to do that during play).
I Love the Trees! Hell I Loved The Autumn Color Myself But MEH Either way, THERE AMAZING!!! GREAT IDEA! THE SPRAYER! MOOHAHAHA!! Nifty!! SAVED IT FOR FUTURE IDEAS!! THANKS!!
Hot damn!! That’s amazing. I have been losing flock off my trees like a gym coach loses hair. I need to order some of your glue. Will you ship to Okinawa?
Okay so what he's calling seafoam is actually supertrees. And it has a plant that smells like lichen and looks just like what you see except he's broken it off of the stems. On the stems they look very much like very real trees. But what he's doing with it is also impressively creative and I'm going to try it. This plant grows in Scandinavia and it can be ordered from Scenic Express in the United States. I'm not sure where he gets it I guess I could look in the details.
No vende los arboles sin las ramas? Quisiera saber de que material es o saber hacerlos o comprar gracias me gusta tu trabajo. Tienes mucha creatividad Felicidades!!
I tried making tree's with flock sponge once it was a pain, then i say Jermys from Black Magic Craft cheap dollar store tree's. I got bunch done in one night using a his idea. Thank you BMC
When you soak the trees, I have issues with the scenic cement running down into the armitures leaving white streaks . Did that happen to you and if so is there something I can do
You should put together a bundle with everything you need to do one full pack of armatures. I bet it would sell like hotcakes. Would one pack of seafoam, flock and sealant be enough do you think?
quick question on the foam flock - which size did you use? I see three on your site - thanks! Also, the dark green looks different in the 5 and 3 photos - which photo is more accurate to the original? trying to put together a purchase and want to match my existing stuff to some degree !
@@GeekGamingScenics okay sorry but still confused - the link to the foam flock brings me to 10 products - there is "foam scatter" and three different sizes of "tree foliage" - trying to pick what you did! thanks
I did that almost the same way with my teenage kids last weekend, the armatures are great, bit if you use poly fiber in sted of seafoam its farter and becomes tight packed in the leaves pretty fast. And a question, why dont you use graffiti spraycans? They are about 3-5 pounds pr 400ml and is the best paint they do in spraycans
@@GeekGamingScenics thats pretty cheep, and if the quality is okey, its not bad. But i tryed most hobby brands and most of the hardware store brands and i have not found any spraycans that comes close to the quality of graffiti paints, and they come in low pressure and normal(realy high pressure). And they have diffrent caps for diffrent spray patterns, its worth checking out. Molotow or Montana is the best two brands
@@GeekGamingScenics cool. I think you guys have a lot better selection of cheep cans in the uk than we have in norway, and the cheep cans here are still more expenciv than the graffiti once, i cant find any cans at all under 6 euros here
@@BloopTube yeh here in norway its actully the cheepest cans i can get, even the cheep autopart stores dont have cans under 7-8euros here. And if i look for sales i can maybe find some for 5-6euros. So Montana is a lot cheeper
Exactly how I made my trees a while ago, except I didn't have the liquid latex rubber. Mine still hold up to gameplay, but I wish I had that added step in there.
There'll be a chance to see these trees up close and personal soon, although I'd be grateful if you could leave the axes at home! Parts of this monster-build will be on display to the public for the first time at Salute 2020/21 in London on 13th November. Do feel free to come and say hello if you're there...
Garden sprayer is genius.
@@GeekGamingScenics And the spray bottles get clogged at some point too so they don't spread evenly or with a fine mist anymore. Great idea for that garden sprayer Luke!
There was a point where it looked like Luke working at a garden nursery hosing seedlings.
ya I've seen everyone who makes gaming boards switch back and forth between hands as they are sealing off the tables. and Luke just set it on auto...good stuff man.
I think the trees with just the seafoam on it looked great for an autumn look.
This video has so much great info packed in. The liquid latex dip, the garden sprayer for the scenic cement, the contact cement vs super glue - this is why I love your content, thanks for this man!
Seconded. Regardless of how the trunk is made, you've set a high-quality standard for wargaming trees. The glimpses into your mass-production line for them was informative. Perhaps you could review how you plan and prepare for mass builds like that? Not in detail, perhaps a few minutes on your process.
Dammit, I have GOT to get a shed!
7.40 ISH "If it can take an axe then it can take a fat lad with a load of wotsits on his fingers". Absolutely hilarious! Great tutorial!
Words of wisdom :P
I proper laughed out loud at that
There's nothing manlier than trimming your bush with an axe...
I really liked the autumnal look of the raw seafoam - those looked awesome too!
As someone who also makes LARP props you could possibly speed up the process by adding craft acrylic in 3 to 1 ratio with your liquid latex you could colour and coat in one go
"a fat lad wi a load of wotsits on his fingers", love an unexpected laugh when I'm learning new things. You're so fab, thanks for all the brilliant tutorials.❤️
Brilliant vid.
I live in Australia and use the uprooted roots of woody weeds (a byproduct of my work) as basic tree armatures (because free is cheaper than cheap)
Many of the techniques you showed here are completely transferrable and will work well to make my next batch of trees better looking and harder wearing.
Fanks bruvvah!
Stealing this to death. My chunky 90s board needs some indestructible trees!
I did one of those tree armatures with seafoam using the geekgaming base ready glue. I found as long as you hold it in place for a second it held it to the tree much better than other glues.
man that is so awesome, not jus for Wargaming but also dioramas for photography/action figure photography
Seeing you bust out the axe was great, haha. Nailed it!
Thank you for your videos they help me show my nieces and nephew that they can use their imagination in the hobby and that their projects will take time.
Awesome evolution of your old indestructible latex tree video! Love it!
Liquid latex is fantastic. I used to use it back in the day for larp costumes and weapons.
You can mix it with most acrylic or latex based paint just stay clear of paints with strong chemical scents (terpentine, etc) and untested spraypaints. Some of these can melt latex and results in a stickyness that can last for years.
It can probably do everything PVA does. Just differently. Its a more flexible alternative.
Fun fact for Larp weapons we found 3 dips was adequate to make a weapon that would last for years.
i use sponge to get stronger trees. First i mix it, then i use a mix of colour and white glue. Takes very long to dry but it's rocksolid. Since it gets smaller at it dries, a second passage is necessary. It's great for dense trees and hedges.
They look amazing! It looks like a forest from a distance and the trees look very organic.
Those are some strong trees! I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone make terrain at this scale using a water sprayer before 😂
It looked so nice before paint! Like a real forest or something!
This was so fun! I have always wanted to make a gaming table that was coverd in trees but as you mentioned, I am always afraid of them losing too much flock all over the place. And honeslty 60 trees in two days! Wow, I feel like that is pretty managable, even for myself who is a small-time hobbyist. Thanks for another great video!
What exactly is the Matte Scenic Sealant he references at 6:00 in the video. I am searching everywhere for something to seal my trees proper?
Late answer- but the sealant a product he sells at Geek gaming scenics.
You've got a very robust bush, Mr Fellows. I bet it can take a right pounding. The latest Chuck Tingle book, "Pounded in the Bush by a Fat Lad with Whotsit Fingers"
Making trees is always something I’ve struggled with when making terrain thank you for the video will give this a try
Perfect timing, was looking for a way to make affordable trees for a Mirkwood board!
After the liquid latex it's pretty similar to how I've done trees, but your starting point looks so much better! Definitely going to have to see how easily I can get the other materials, I love the woodland scenics armatures.
I have 3 dozen armatures ready for seafoam. I think I am going to order latex tonight. Thanks for this video Luke.
OK, so normally I just roll my eyes at the thumbnails on UA-cam videos, but I have to say that yours legitimately made me chuckle. Love your channel, your work is fantastic!
"He's a lumberjack..."
Those are some tough trees - great job!
“He flocks up trees, he seals up clumps, he makes the arbor-y. On Wednesdays he goes shopping and buys paint for a pound or three.”
Thats awesome man, can't wait to see those trees on the terrain. It's gonna look amazing!
I really liked the distanced view of the trees before you flocked them. Since it gave me such a late fall feeling
As a railway modeler I was surprised to see a wargamer using Woodland Scenics products as they a mostly known as a model railway scenery company. Although your trees are designed for wargaming they would also be perfect for a portable model railway that goes to shows. As for a home layout you could skip the last bit.
Outstanding! I'm definately trying out these techinques. A garden sprayer is a must buy for me now. Wow, that can save me a lot of time.
I’d skip the paint and flock and keep them in their brilliant autumn appearance seen at 2:37.
Don't know how you learned your skills but you've nailed it. I'm not a wargammer but I really like to watch your videos. No one I know around here plays games and that's a shame because it really seems like fun. Being a old guy with few friends sometimes sucks. 😂
@@GeekGamingScenics A small town in Southeast Kentucky. Lots of drug abuse and poverty. Have you ever done a video on how you got started and learned all your skills ?
That would be interesting. You do amazing work Sir. And I'll be watching.
@@GeekGamingScenics 👍😀
those latex skin webbings look like tent caterpillar webbing. So if you left them on, you could have trees suffering a severe tent caterpillar infestation. Or possibly Mirkwood spiders, if you're doing fantasy terrain. Add a few mini spiders to that, and it would look rather convincing.
Dang. Getting a garden sprayer. That's going to save hella time compared to unblocking a diffuser on commissions. Thanks!
At around 6:22 it kinda looks like you're watering your bonsai garden :D Another fun video!
Absolutely maganificient they look really good!
Two questions.
1.Have you ever painted the trees after with an airbrush?
2. if its trade secret or whatever, how much did these cost to make minus all of your labour? Like if I wanted to make them here in Australia (yes I can't sleep) how much would it cost me?
I can imagine leaving the webbing ON after the latex dip would leave a VERY interesting little specimen; good for an exoplanet board.
You've outdone yourself mate. Props to you and the guys.
That's amazing! I'd previously been dubious of sea foam's ability to stand up to the most destructive force known to humanity - players! Now though, I have to say I'm a convert. Great work Luke!
Whoever playes Warhammer Total War knows that all trees are the strongest elements on the battlefield, totally undestructible. Glad to see this represented in the tabletop too ;-)
Excellent tutorial, I swamp mine in PVA, but this way is much cheaper and looks loads better than mine. Great stuff.
Just ordered a bunch of your materials and very excited to try them out.
I love the looks of your trees.
They are always so great looking. And now they are indestructible too.
Looking forward to seeing this table finished can't wait 👍🏻
w0w man, You are like an encyclopedia ;) Awesome!! keep it UP!
Yes I'd 100% agree with Aaron R and for a change the end result is what will be looked at. What about shell damaged trees or had you forgotten about them on a battlefield? Cheers Luke and your mate.
Couldn’t stop laughing at “if it can take an axe, it can take a fat lad with wotsits all over ‘is fingers”. Even writing it made me laugh again. Brilliant. Great tutorial as well!
Interesting and informative as always. 👍
I don't really make trees, but have to give this a try. (:
And, totally missed that you had opened up a site for EU. ❤
"It can take a fat lad with wotsitts on his fingers"
I feel singled out.....
Link to Latex? Brilliantly executed Broseph!! You rock!!
@@GeekGamingScenics #GURU!! #TERRAIN NINJA
Love it! Amazing process!
Should totally do a forest board next
I was not convinced by the durability of Sea Foam so for my trees I used the same armatures but used a kind of 3D foam that is put in gutter to keep out leaves. Like a very porous sponge structure. Tore it bits then painted it before using. Might be good if someone isn't making so many trees that they can justify filling a bucket with latex.
Man, those are some fantastic looking trees. I'm going to have to look into that method.
Have you considered how Liquid Latex changes over time? I've used it a lot for prosthetics and they simply break down over 6 months because it's an organic material. Might be ok under all the varnish and sealer but just interested how they will stand up over time.
they looked so lovely and autumnal before paint...
these are sick, man all your tutorials make me wish i had enough space to make big boards regularly. thanks for sharing def wanna try this in the future
Luke, what did you do to prevent or hide those unsightly drips of the contact adhesive? Rest of the build is pure genius, not least the garden sprayer!
Great looking trees, will save this one and might do my own with your method. Thanks for sharing.
They look great. How much do you think each tree costs in the end, £5 or £6? I'd love to have a good copse or orchard for my rank'n'file gaming but it's usability is a concern. Does a magnet solution work well for trees (so I can remove it for a 20 unit base). Or maybe a short bolt, with a nut on the base/ground that the tree could be screwed into (might take to long to do that during play).
Love your way to share your content with us. Thanks Luke, amazing work!
I Love the Trees! Hell I Loved The Autumn Color Myself But MEH Either way, THERE AMAZING!!! GREAT IDEA! THE SPRAYER! MOOHAHAHA!! Nifty!! SAVED IT FOR FUTURE IDEAS!! THANKS!!
Love the casual walk up the stairs with the axe 😂 great vid Luke 👍🏻👏
Hot damn!! That’s amazing. I have been losing flock off my trees like a gym coach loses hair. I need to order some of your glue. Will you ship to Okinawa?
brilliant stuff, great tutorial! do you think they would be equally durable if you also added some leaf flake?
Will be using this method very soon!!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
Brilliant. Especially the garden sprayer. Cheers!
Where do you find that liquid latex? Is it the same as casting latex? And what is the dilution rate?
Any suggestions for what to use for the latex step if you're allergic to latex? Would multiple coats of PVA or wood glue work?
I had thought about using a resin dip for strengthening seafoam, but latex sounds like a good idea! Thanks, great video!
incredible job, one question, don't you sell some little trees??
Is the foam flock you use in the video just the "foam scatter flock" you have on the website?
Okay so what he's calling seafoam is actually supertrees. And it has a plant that smells like lichen and looks just like what you see except he's broken it off of the stems. On the stems they look very much like very real trees. But what he's doing with it is also impressively creative and I'm going to try it. This plant grows in Scandinavia and it can be ordered from Scenic Express in the United States. I'm not sure where he gets it I guess I could look in the details.
@@GeekGamingScenics have you ever dipped in latex once the spray adhesive as cured??
Can you flock a game board with this technique. Will the latex work with static grass?
This is the kind of OG Luke content I love to see!
Great work on the trees 🌲 can’t wait for next video!!
No vende los arboles sin las ramas? Quisiera saber de que material es o saber hacerlos o comprar gracias me gusta tu trabajo. Tienes mucha creatividad Felicidades!!
Great looking trees. Will have to give this a try.
I tried making tree's with flock sponge once it was a pain, then i say Jermys from Black Magic Craft cheap dollar store tree's. I got bunch done in one night using a his idea. Thank you BMC
Absolutely marvelous homie
To paraphrase "Fat Lad with Wotsits on his fingers". Might have to steal that as my new band name. Spat out my tea when I heard that.
Thought about setting up some sort of cottage industry making these somewhere labour is cheap and selling them as finished products on the webstore?
Love it...where do I find that much scenic sealant? 😂
Wheres the cheap varnish from shown at 5:30?
Love a bit of bush! Holy 💩 they're durable AF !
When you soak the trees, I have issues with the scenic cement running down into the armitures leaving white streaks . Did that happen to you and if so is there something I can do
You should put together a bundle with everything you need to do one full pack of armatures. I bet it would sell like hotcakes.
Would one pack of seafoam, flock and sealant be enough do you think?
The seafoam is gold.
Great work dude!
quick question on the foam flock - which size did you use? I see three on your site - thanks! Also, the dark green looks different in the 5 and 3 photos - which photo is more accurate to the original? trying to put together a purchase and want to match my existing stuff to some degree !
@@GeekGamingScenics okay sorry but still confused - the link to the foam flock brings me to 10 products - there is "foam scatter" and three different sizes of "tree foliage" - trying to pick what you did! thanks
Luke you’re a genius. Thank you for your tutorials!!
Love them. Now I want trees on my table.
The weird latex webbing could make for cool chaos/alien corrupted trees, maybe.
Buena tarde, podría decir que material utiliza para la elaboración de los árboles. Gracias
I like the “tree pounding” on the table feature. I need that when my elf army loses (as always).
At 1:03 you apply a powder to the screw on the base. What is that?
Bicarbonate Soda, just adds a bit of alkali to the superglue and helps it cure a lot faster.
I did that almost the same way with my teenage kids last weekend, the armatures are great, bit if you use poly fiber in sted of seafoam its farter and becomes tight packed in the leaves pretty fast. And a question, why dont you use graffiti spraycans? They are about 3-5 pounds pr 400ml and is the best paint they do in spraycans
@@GeekGamingScenics thats pretty cheep, and if the quality is okey, its not bad. But i tryed most hobby brands and most of the hardware store brands and i have not found any spraycans that comes close to the quality of graffiti paints, and they come in low pressure and normal(realy high pressure). And they have diffrent caps for diffrent spray patterns, its worth checking out. Molotow or Montana is the best two brands
@@GeekGamingScenics cool. I think you guys have a lot better selection of cheep cans in the uk than we have in norway, and the cheep cans here are still more expenciv than the graffiti once, i cant find any cans at all under 6 euros here
@@BloopTube yeh here in norway its actully the cheepest cans i can get, even the cheep autopart stores dont have cans under 7-8euros here. And if i look for sales i can maybe find some for 5-6euros. So Montana is a lot cheeper
Exactly how I made my trees a while ago, except I didn't have the liquid latex rubber. Mine still hold up to gameplay, but I wish I had that added step in there.
Thanks Lee great idea