5 Ways to Make Realistic Wargaming Trees
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- I provide 5 techniques for making realistic looking trees for your wargaming table.
Patreon: www.patreon.com/Redbeardbaron...
Many of these techniques were borrowed or modified from the following channels:
Luke Towan's Coco Fiber Trees:
• Tall Forest Pine Trees...
Terrain Tutor Lichen Trees:
• Realistic Scenic Trees...
Mike937739 Twine Trees:
• MODEL RAILROAD IDEA / ...
Materials needed:
Clump Foilage Tree:
Hob-e tac
Spray Adhesive: Loctite High Performance Spray
Tree Armature: Woodland Scenics 6 inch armatures
Clump Foilage: Woodland Scenics Dark Green
Highlight: mixed green fine turf
Lichen Trees:
Lichen: Ashland light green Lichen
Tree Armature: Woodland Scenics 6 inch armatures
Hot Glue Gun
Spray Adhesive: Loctite High Performance Spray
Light Green coarse flock
Highlight: 4ground Loose Foliage Green Leaves
Coco Fiber Trees:
Tree Armature: Woodland Scenics 6 inch armatures
Spray Adhesive: Loctite High Performance Spray
Coco Fiber: 16" molded replacement coco liner from home depot
Light Green coarse flock
Highlight: 4ground Loose Foliage Green Leaves
conifer coarse flock
weeds fine turf
Twine Trees:
Tree Armature: Woodland Scenics 6 inch armatures
Natural Jute twine
Spray Adhesive: Loctite High Performance Spray
Burnt Grass coarse flock
Highlight: 4ground Loose Foliage Green Leaves - Ігри
Really good concise tutorial of these different methods. 2 questions:
- At 2:06 how does the highlighting flock stick to the clump foliage? Did you hit with spray adhesive right before?
- And after you make these trees how well do they hold up? Do they shed during game play and from storage/transport? Do you spray on a layer of sealant so they hold together longer?
Yeah I spray the trees down with some more adhesive before highlighting. To make them a bit more durable I spat them down with watered down pva glue. You can also use hairspray as a sealant, both will keep the flock locked in pretty well.
Woodland scenics water ripples
This is probably one of the best tree tutorials I've seen. Simple, varied, and excellent results.
Mini Terrain Domain Thanks for watching!
Same
Dude, these trees are sick. One improvement I can see is posting a list of materials directly so people like me that have little-to-no experience with stuff know what they're looking for without having to go back and find the spots in the video where you specifically name them.
Good idea! I'll put them in the description.
I know this is 2 years old but I still tell people to check this out. One of the best tree making vids out there with all its content. I agree the different materials and sizes make it like a real woodland. Well done Red.
Appreciate your continued support!
Without a doubt the BEST tutorial on making trees I have seen ! Brilliant, thank you for uploading this gem!
All the very best,
Del
+Del Bradley Thanks! It was a joy to make, learned a bunch of new techniques myself.
Really good quick tutorial for so many different tree styles, this is quite the service you've done for the gaming community; thank you!
Appreciate it, thanks for watching!
So impressed with your ideas and results
Exactly the video ive been looking for! Thank you
Fantastic work! I will be sure to share this!
Appreciate that!
I've been looking for a way to make cheap and easy coniferous trees, so thanks for this, definitely going to try it out.
Thanks for watching! Pines can be tricky to get a realistic look, but I think that coco fiber does a great job of simulating their smaller branches.
Fantastic work! So glad I found your channel
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video...this was the most accessible video ive found for making trees.
Very realistic looking trees! Thanks for sharing this tutorial.
Thanks for watching!
Great video. To the point, and very informative. Cheers!
Thanks for watching!
These tree's are fantastic looking and very cost effective! Nice work!
BTW: I'm loving this channel! I randomly came across this video and I've watched about 10+ more. Already I can tell I like what you do and gave you a Sub!
I appreciate that! Welcome to the channel! The best part of the channel for me is picking my viewers' brains and improving my techniques, so let me know if you ever have any suggestions or ideas.
Really liking your videos keep up the good work!
Appreciate it!
I picked up the clump and lichen techniques off Mel too on his Terrain Tutor channel. I picked up some great tips off him over the years
It's one of the best tree making tutorials. :D
Appreciate it.
Wow, it seems that this video is going viral! The style of all these trees look great, and putting all the different types together looks good. If you're going to make more of these you could try using some twigs instead of buying trunks, it might have a more natural look or just turn out being harder to work with, I don't know. Keep up the good work!
Thought about trying some natural branches...just worried about them potentially being less durable, but it would be an interesting experiment!
Nice overview I really liked the coco pine tree method I haven't seen that before
I really like how it turned out as well, the fibers simulate small branches better than any material I have used so far.
Using parts of one tree to make a miniature other type of tree. Powerful sorcery indeed.
Love the twine tree great idea tanks
The tree master, that is you. Thank you so much for this.
Haha I will gladly accept that title. Thanks for watching!
Simple guide, really useful for slot car scenery.
This is the best walk through video I've ever seen
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
Nice love how easy and simple the spray is. Prolly gonna do my own lil version of this with a lil more spray cus i hate when flock falls off when ur gaming or moving trees.
+Pootis Yea that is always a concern, that's why I coat it with some hairspray and watered down pva to lock in the flock. That being said the clump foliage tree still likes to shed some flock every once in awhile.
Red Beard Baron same, holds it all together but after that it's usually perfect. subscribed
Just seeing this...... great work, simple and effective...
Thanks for watching!
That first one is awesome.
And by far the easiest, can't go wrong with clump foliage.
Thank you for easy techniques
Most welcome, thanks for watching!
I love this video. So much.
Thanks! Means a lot coming from one of my favorite channels.
I like the grass you have on your game board.
Thanks, faux fur is my favorite method of simulating grass. Can't recommend it enough. Will be doing some more tutorials using faux fur.
Really nice trees looking good
Thanks, appreciative it!
Great video!!
Thanks!
New sub. Awesome ideas!
+Jered Jerris Thanks for watching!
Awesome really! Are you still active? Would love it if you would make some new videos. This is absolutely my favourite tabletop video on the internet. Salute!
I love it!
Thanks!
Excellent vid.
Thanks for watching!
Great video.
Appreciate it!
Just found your channel....have subbed ....I’ll try your tree effects as I need some for my Railway layout.....cheers from fred
Welcome to the channel!
Man I LOATHE snipping up twine BUT man does it make for GREAT looking hay and hay bales
Which spray adhesive are you using? Need one that dries clear. I need trees for war gaming so they need to be pretty solid. Not sure what to coat them with to harden them up. Scenic cement was a big mistake; the clumps just start falling off when they’re wet.
How resilient to damage and being thrown in and out of boxes are these trees. I love the trees some companies do but they seem so delicate.
I hairspray them and then load them with pva until they are rock hard, so far they have held up well.
Nice terrain all over ! Your channel reminds me a lot of my own terrain yet, you have a very unique and recognizable look.
Where are you based? It would be awesome to play a game together!
+il Camiciaro I play out of St. Louis, Missouri. Since nearly every convention is in the Midwest, I plan to make it to more cons this year. If I see you at one, we shall have to do battle!
HAH. "Spruce it up". Upvoted.
You have my attention.
+powersave2 thanks for taking the time to watch!
Forget the Hob-e-tac . Buy at $2.00 to 8.00 , the the style of rubber glue used for bike tyre repairs or Tile / shoe repairs .Its comes out like yellowy goop . Dries about 10minutes time . Apply using a spatula or stirring sticks . Keep the stringy bits across the branches as you jam it into a big box ,of clump foliage . Some of it you can break up into smaller pieces for a quality job . . I use latex gloves to save clean up during this suggestion . Then spray adhesive ( any brand from a Paint or craft shop ) . Then drop different shades of Flock from German railway landscape supplier , NOCH . Do that over a basin cause the loose stuff can be used on the bases .Either jigsaw some 3mm coasters that come from Art Supply or Hardware store, in to figure eight shapes or use old DVD's . Add Tiling plaster roughly ( you can stick trees down with this as well ) , paint it dark earth shades with acrylic paints and feature with the used flock and foliage from the basin and add Lichen , stones , sticks , farm or forest animals.
Rusty Gold Good tip! I'll have to give rubber glue a try.
Great video. Have you tried using Mod Podge or Tacky Glue to attach flocking/foliage?
Mod podge and pva never seem to have enough strength to attach the foliage, but are great to water down and apply later to protect the flock. Got glue however is a nice alternative.
How do you seal the foliage and lichen to make it gaming tough? PVA glue?
For these I used just pva. I’ve started using the flex seal rubber spray before flicking and that makes them completely solid.
@@RedBeardBaron flex steel rubber spray? I will have to look in to that. Do you have a name for the product?
Sure thing. Realized it is seal not steel. Flex Seal Spray Rubber Sealant Coating, 14-oz, Black www.amazon.com/dp/B00CD9FGNW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2OVvDb8HK2F95
Hey. Really nice video. Keep the good work up.
I got a question about the first technique though.
After applying the clump folliage. my experience is that hob-e-tac dosnt dosnt really keep the folliage in place. Meaning it will fall off over time or doing use. How do you secure it?
+Jesper Mogensen Yeah the hobby-tac does a pretty terrible job of keeping the flock on. I always end up giving it a once over with a hot glue gun in places with big clumps. Thanks for watching!
Liked the vid so much I subscribed very nicely done. Informative no time waste at all. For a few more ways to make trees check out Lukes Aps he does a couple more ways like using gutter guard for conifers and filler batting from sewing. He uses it over the form much like you use the planters coconut fibers.
Thanks for the sub! I agree, Luke aps has a ton of awesome videos. He recently put up a swamp tree tutorial that I will have to try some day.
Excellent tutorial, did you paint the trunks before or after adding the foliage? Cheers
I painted the trunks before the flocking just with a dry brush of Vallejo Israeli sand...it is a great grey brown.
Great video, going to give this a go. How do you stop the foliage falling off the trees? Do you have a method for sealing them?
I like to use a thin coat of clear flex spray after I get the majority of my flock in place. Then I come back and do one more layer over the flex seal as it can have a prettt rubbery look to the foliage.
B-but!...I .LOVE TO TWIST WIRES FOR HOURS AND HOURS! ...It's relaxing as all heck! :V
Ha! Not my idea of a fun time either. Thanks for watching!
Did you do a final coat of spray adhesive once all of the highlight flocking was added to seal it all together?
I spray it down first with a coat of hairspray and then I spray it with watered down pva, sometimes several coats of pva until the flock is pretty much rock-hard.
I've read elsewhere that the hob-e-tac doesn't work that well for long term durability - have you had better results with PVA as far as keeping the clump foliage down long term? Or are they about the same, and require a spray of watered down PVA no matter what to try to seal the tree and add durability?
I've got tons of terrain PVA, but no hob-e-tac, so if I'm going to make some trees for my table I want to make sure I run out and grab some if that's going to give me the best results.
I used the hob-e-tac and every time I move or touch them bits fall off. Not impressed with it at all.
@@teemo4876 Did you seal the trees at all after completing them? Such as with watered down pva sprayed on using a spray bottle hairspray or a flat clearcoat?
Looks great, but how durable are they? My past experience with flock trees/woodland scenics armatures resulted in good looking trees that lasted for a small handful of games before the adhesive started to give out and they started to shed their foliage all over the storage bin and gaming table. They did't take the wear and tear of being handled during the game especially well (as we moved them about during play on area terrain bases to make room for the minis) and basically fell apart right before my eyes. I ended up binning my collection within a month as a result.
Chris O I give them a liberal spray of hairspray and watered-down pva glue and I find that the flock stays pretty well locked in. They are definitely more fragile then the commercial bottle brush trees, but not by a significant margin.
Can you post links to the "Highlight: Mixed Green Fine Turf" and light green coarse flock that you used?
+Thomas Wall Sure thing! They are all woodland scenics flock, which I would recommend buying off eBay as they are nearly 50% cheaper.
woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/GroundCover
How did you paint the tree trunks and what colors did you use?
+Thomas Wall I painted the trunk with Vallejos Israeli sand primer and then put some brown wash over it.
What materials would you recommend to make general purpose armature trees? I’d like to make a few dozen on a budget since I have most of these materials in my inventory!
I think the easiest and best looking technique is using the plastic armatures with lichen hot glued on then covered in flock.
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Question for the first technique: I'm seeing a lot of mixed reviews regarding the WS Hob-e-tac online, most commonly it doesn't hold the foliage longer than a few months. Is there a technique that helps lock everything in place, especially since I intend to use these for wargames and they will be handled regularly?
Hob-e-tac isn't the greatest. I have moved away from using it. Tire glue works well but I prefer to dip my trees in liquid rubber now...LukeAPS has a great video on this. Turns your trees indestructible.
A spray varnish maybe?
Cool methods, one question on your coco-fiber, do you sterilize it before using? I saw some of these basket liners in the store and they are full of little bits of wood and dirt.
I don’t usually bother, but you could always bake them for 20 minutes or so to make sure.
@@RedBeardBaron Thanks for the reply, any particular temperature you would recommend? Need someone to blame in case I burn the place down.
Usually at 250 for anything wood, 350 for dirt.
Really nice, quick question, how did you do the ground cover? 20mm Static grass without applicator so it just feel down? I'm making a ground jungle for a pathfinder session and this ground looks sick as hell for it.
It is actually just use plain old woodland scenics flock. I put down a layer of fine turf and then sprinkle on coarse flock over it to simulate dense ground cover. If you check out my tree stand tutorial I king of run through my flocking technique that I used for the trees.
oh, i just your faux rug video and i thought that was the ground. Sorry i meant, the actual big base, not the tree bases :)
Ah yes the fur, the stuff is great and easy to make!
Great, thanks mate. Looks really good. I'll try to make a modular version of that rug :)
Hey, I'm working on a Iberian-inspired gaming board, and I'm wondering how you would make waist to head high vegetation like blackberry bushes (which should be impassable terrain....) or tree heath.
I would use that coco fiber and cut out circle swaths and pull it apart to create your bushes. I would then spray paint it a dark brown and then flock it with some fine turf to give a more vine-like look to the bushes.
I'll try that out! Might add some white flock for the Heath-flowers. Thank you very much.
How long do they last before they fall apart?
How durable are they?
Imagine a tabletop surrounded by excited ten year olds moving their miniatures through the forest and knocking half of it over in the process...
How strong is the spray-glue?
These actually are pretty durable and have lasted the years just fine, it's the sage brush trees I've made that require very careful handling.
where did you get those tree bases/how did you make those?
How do you make that grassy field at the end?
How durable are these? Could you transport them safely in a bin and not lose that much flock? Or would you need to seal them a bit more with watered down pva or something similar?
They have actually held up pretty much perfectly with just loads of watered down pva. If you want them to be indestructible, coat them will some liquid flex rubber.
Hey! Is there a way for applying glue on the twine without having spray adhesive? Thanks!
I like to use sticky tack, but I have also heard bicycle tire glue is even better.
they look good but they're kinda stylised in a way
Okay, but how do you seal them? They seem extremly fragile and prone to just seriously wear off over time. I was kinda dissapointed you havent included that, as I'm struggling with that problem and your video could have been the light in the tunnel.
Cheers!
Oh I missed the comment where you just answered that, nevermind then ;)
Elwo In my next video I plan on showing how to make a gw forest stand and I'll show how I base and protect my trees. Thanks for watching!
so the hobby tack has to dry before you apply the clump foliage?
+dudeski vandudenstein You just need to wait until it turns from white to clear, which takes around 5-10 minutes.
Red Beard Baron works great. thanks for the reply, and love the videos
Do you seal or harden them in anyway?
I spray them first with watered down pva glue and then hit them with odorless hairspray...turns the flock nearly solid.
Hi where to buy that tree amature?thank you
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Hey man do you know how to make coarse flock?
For this I used pre-made woodland scenic a flock. In the past I made coarse flock by using sawdust instead of wood flour.
Would you recommend not sifting it to get a more coarse effect?
Lichen? As in real lichen? It's an honest question, I have a whole field of it and I was wondering. Thanks in advance
Yep, real lichen. Not sure if hobby stores do something special to treat the lichen to kill microbes, but they definitely aren’t dried out or anything.
@@RedBeardBaron thanks a mil! I actually tried with vynilic glue. Takes about a day to dry properly but it becomes like plastic and can be painted afterwords 😁
what are you using for grass?
Darktoast20 It is painted faux fur mat. Check out my faux fur mat tutorial video if you are interested in how to make one. Thanks for watching.
Red Beard Baron yeah I kind of found a video for that after I asked but what's funny is I have a bunch of that fur from a sale or Jo-Ann's had about the whole roll for 60 bucks. So I know what my project this week will be thanks for all the info.
Are you sure the materials you listed are correct? It looks like you used fine turf for the lichen trees and there is no woodland scenics light green fine turf. Perhaps you were using the green blend fine turf?
+Thomas Wall I used the burnt grass fine turf for that lighter green color as well as the mixed green. Sorry if I said the wrong flock!
Red Beard Baron mixed green being the blended turf?
+Thomas Wall Yes sir!
What is the color of that flock?
I used the light green, medium green, mixed green, and burnt grass from woodland scenics.
Bruh, just drop a brocoli on the map.
I've seen worse trees on wargaming table 😂
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