@@lightningshinobi1665 but the comment stated the misty encounter. That encounter was with caterpie with misty quote, bugs are one of the most disgusting things. Ash replies, besides you, what are the others
It always amazed me as a kid that the human drinks like water and lemonade healed more health than a dedicated healing item, and cost significantly less.
Actually, I wonder what the best Pokemon would be with equalized stats. Crucial break points would probably mainly be a special attack (or at least something not resisted) before Brock, a good growth rate (unless those are standardized too), and general midgame options. Also, between stab body slam and psychic, being a normal or psychic type would be preferred.
4:50 for those wondering, in Gen 1 if a damage calc comes back as a number less than 1 the move just misses. "But it failed!" This can also happen if they use defense curl too many times as well, plus Poison is a physical type in these games too.
So, I want to suggest something: a comparison run with max stats on a Pidgey, with only its level-up moves. So what this run showed is that max stats on a Pokémon with a truly abysmal moveset is far superior to 0 stats on a Pokémon with a really phenomenal moveset. But I also think that this run doesn't really show just HOW busted max stats would normally be, purely because Weedle is the literal worst possible Pokémon that could potentially complete a run. It would basically be showing just how done dirty Weedle was to show just how much easier it would be with a Pokémon that has a generally bad moveset but still something that isn't outrageously handicapped like Weedle is. Why Pidgey? Because it learns no offensive moves that are not Normal or Flying, with the highest base power being 40 by level up. It would be an absolutely dreary Pokémon to ever attempt minimum battles with normally - but I bet that it would wreck EVERYTHING with max stats, far better than Weedle did. I propose Pidgey rather than something like Caterpie or Magikarp because they are literally impossible on solo runs due to being unable to hit ghosts (unless you did shenanigans with Magikarp), while Pidgey can if it reaches level 28 and learns Wing Attack (which it will do before Rival 4 if Weedle did, since Pidgey is in Medium Slow while Weedle is in Medium Fast). Essentially the idea would be, if Pidgey just utterly annihilates everything in front of it, then you can pretty much guarantee that any Pokémon with access to even one or two good moves or TMs would do as good or better. You basically wouldn't have to run any other Pokémon on it because it's more or less a guarantee that every other Pokémon is either outright impossible on minimum battles or would be even better via having better level-up moves or being able to learn any modestly useful TM.
I like the logic of this. I think there are a couple of cases to check though - Pidgey makes sense for one, but then a Pokemon like Rhyhorn would be another, just to see if the weaknesses to Ice, Water, and Grass prove to be too much in the late game.
25:25 Imagine being this opposing trainer. Your fighting a weedle probably on every steroid there is, it shreds 2 of your pokemon, then it just starts repeatedly spitting string at your third pokemon, as your pokemon tries and fails to beat the crap out of it. Then you lose, to a weedle. Random lil intrusive thought I had.
The lesson I got here is: holy crud Poison sting is an awful move, especially in gen 1. If you had any other non-nornal move this may have been possible with minimum battles. Oh yeah, but also base stats matter a ton. More so than moveset.
Yeah, at extremes, I think Stats can really trump moves. And honestly just about anything is better than Poison Sting due to resistances - I'd rather have Leech Life
This is very silly and I enjoy it greatly. To avoid having to change other trainers’ Pokémon you could replace Mew with whatever weirdo you want to do the run with. It would be its own kind of work, but you’d at least be able to run into the most one-sided mirror matches ever.
20:00 Somehow that Weedle at level 29 has stats comparable to what fully evolved starters have at level 65 or 70, so yeah it's the stats that count sometimes!
This mainly seems to prove that struggle isn't that bad of a move. Try this with poison sting only, no struggles, and we'll see how far raw stats get you with a bad move.
34:50 not gonna lie, you took more damage from struggle than the psychic moves, so chances are, you could probably beat him in your first attempt if you just used poison sting instead.
I can't remember if you purchased Lemonades for healing when you got to Celadon, they would help in runs like this since they're 4× as good as regular Potions and only ₱150 more expensive each.
RIP, you're absolutely right, Lemonade was the way to go. I just went potions since money wasn't really a concern (no buying vitamins or TMs etc), but in some runs that could really help.
I'm not sure how you would think of this but; buying Lemonades takes quite a lot longer than buying Super Potions and waiting to go get Hyper Potions. I think you made the right call in the run. @@RBYPokemonChallenges
Yeah, I was more interested to see exactly how it would end up. Everyone has done Weedle runs before o. UA-cam, myself included, so it was interesting to see if even Perfect stats could overcome the massive walls like Giovanni 3 and Agatha.
c'mon game freak just give Weedle poison jab already in legends ZA so it doesn't have to rely on a 15 base power move just to use its poison STAB. It's got two big horns just let it have something other than bug bite on the physical side PLEASE so it can actually have some sort of niche I just want to use the funny bug...
is it possible to modify the game so that you get the starter at level 4 and then have a rare candy in your bag to level up with before the first fight so that your stats update correctly
I appreciate all the work you put into these! Having all the stats and stuff on the screen has to take a lot of time so mad props! Btw, the video description says "PREFECT" rather than "PERFECT."
This is my first time seeing one of your videos, this was really cool! I played this game all the time when it came out as a kid. I just now noticed Brock has rock in his name cause of this… my mind is blown how I’ve never notice that… Even with the best stats with a Weedle, Agatha is still like playing the lottery. Lol
Thanks for checking out the channel! Yeah the type theme name is there for Brock, Misty, and Surge, but unfortunately tails off from there (though there are possible Japanese connections to their typings and less obvious connections in the localizations). Agatha is brutal for sure.
Oh my lord.. I. LOVE. THE WEEDLE LINE! Beedrill has been my favorite Pokèmon for YEARS ever since i even found out about the game series in general. And here you are, making its absolutely adorable might i add, first form, absolutely god-like ((as Weedle should be.)) and destroying the game with it! Absolute cinema. I am so glad i stumbled upon this. I love seeing the Weedle line get appreciation! It may be one of the weakest, but down in my heart, it's the real champion. Long live Godle42069. Long live the king.
Yesss!!!! I agree completely and I used to destroy the Caterpie line with my Weedless, Kakuna, and Beedrill as a child. Still think Beedrill is legit good with Swords Dance and STAB bug moves.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Can't wait for the day Beedrill gets brought back. And when it does, hopefully they keep some of the moves it could learn from like, the let's go games. ((Like Drill Run and Outrage.)) This line has a special place in my heart for a reason. And I'd love to see that reason be shown off again.
This is how I feel about eevee and jolteon. Maybe not as niche (but I've had a few friends who loved weedle over the years as well). But, every game I've played or fan made game, I always make sure to get a jolteon. And if it's not available, I'll always cheat in an eevee / thunderstone.
@@cheetah219 I can respect that. Out of the original three Eeveelutions I always thought Jolteon was the coolest and would use one if I was ever playing and could. The spark dog fox thing is awesome. 👍
to me, the worst part is him using the ethers, saving, and then just giving up on the battle. completely wasting them. and look at that, at the end of the game, when those items would be useable, he didnt have them. forcing him to use max ethers at the wrong time. its that and the "minimal battle" added with "i will just use these rare candies now, even though i know its the worst decision, just because lolz", that made this so hard to watch. its one thing to go unprepared to a challenge, its another to actively use the worst decision multiple times, KNOWING they are the worst decisions for no good reason.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges i would disagree. at one point you ended up a full pp restore, which restored points to string shot. which was useless for you. and in the fight against lorelai, you ended up having to use a full pp restore, while you only needed a normal ether, which you did not really have at hand. so you ended up being forced to use poison sting against both lorelai and bruno's entire team.
If you ever do a tombstoner challenge: I think that should be the best possible move, that is, combining fissure with swift. So it's a one-hit-KO-move but it can't miss
For sure, it would be pretty easy to do. Basic badge boosts are just a +12.5% modifier, bit that can become really good late even before we get into badge boost glitch
This is a serious debate in which I think the opinion changes over time. 10-year-old me: Sabrina. 13 year-old me: Erika, 20 year-old me Lorelei, 35-year-old me: Sabrina or Lorelei depending on the day.
This was a lot more interesting than I expected it to be. I really thought 255 attack would carry Poison Sting a lot harder than it ended up doing. And it still carried pretty hard, I just didn't expect this many roadblocks. Part of me wonders if perfect DVs would have bridged some of the gaps here. I'm thinking yeah, probably, as most of the time all you needed was a few more numbers to make the impossible possible. Move base power matters, way more than I thought it did.
Yeah, I think DVs wouldn't have done anything against Brock and Giovanni since they don't scale that much. But the later fights with Giovanni and Agatha could have been helped by Max DVs and early vitamins...
Double the stat total is kinda deceiving, because the stat increases stack multiplicatively, kinda. The benefit each stat gives doesn't just add to the mix, they all interact with the other benefits. If you double everything, then your only issue will be poison sting. And it will be AN issue, likely.
Well Magi Carp with 255 stats is MORE doable then Weedle since Poison sting does CRAP damage even though Magi Carp would be stuck with Tackle as its ONLY ATTACK move since Splash its only OTHER move does nothing at all and both Weedle and Magi Carp can't use ANY HM/TM's at all.
@@veghesther3204 its not, its literaly impossible to beat the game in gen 1 with a magicarp, even if it had stats in the thousands. it only has access to normal attacks, making it completely useless against the forced channelers in the ghost tower. dude isnt even able to beat more than half the game, that alone make it far less useable than weedle. by a LONG shot. even if poison sting is bad, its still a diferent type than normal. allowing it to bypass that.
What I'm learning from this is that high stats seem to matter a lot defensively. It seems like the importance of offensive stats scale with how good your moves are. Godlike stats didn't seem to make a huge difference with poison sting, but with struggle it seemed to matter a lot more, but not as much as I really expected it to matter. Seems like with a good enough move after a certain point you'd just always one shot. Not sure what point that would be, though, and we aren't going to find out from this video. Seems like the biggest problem is that struggle's recoil does a percentage of your health, so it doesn't matter how high your stats are, you have a limited number of struggles before you lose.
Basically, yes. Offense is more about move power, whereas defense it more about stats overall. It's because on the damage calcs, the offensive stat is calculated as a ratio over the opponent's defensive stat, so unless the target has a really lower defensive stat, the value of the attacking stat isn't as important. the calc is (2*level* move power/5) *(attacking stat/defensive stats) * type effectiveness * critical, so there are lots of other factors that increase attack power beyond the attacking stat.
Yeah I take the second fastest route due to playing sped up. It's much harder to avoid unnecessary fights with diagonals whilst uses the up down down left is completely consistent while avoiding trainers
I feel like a more optimized run definitely could have gotten a score above 90 with this scoring system. Not being able to remove paralysis definitely lowered things by the end too.
Yeah that was a mistake at the end, but honestly Lance and the Champion weren't much of an issue in the end. It was Agatha and Giovanni that really caused us trouble.
I answer yes to both, but then again sometimes I want to see the world of Pokemon burn in the unrelenting rage of the forgotten Pokemon that was the one and only lord Bongzilla.
I wonder how Weedle would do if it had it's normal stats, but had access to butterfry's moveset. If it could use all the TMs butterfry can and the same HMs (excluding fly obviously). Weedle is so bad because it has to use the worst move in gen 1, not so much it's bad stats as has been demonstrated here.
23:14 "We're also getting confused which could be bad if we hit ourselves because we have really high attack" _Does 13 damage to itself_ You forgot you also have really high defense as well
5:39 WOULD that help? IIRC, Brock has ten Full Heals (& no Potions?!) for some reason, & Poison only does 1/16th each turn in Gen 1, right? Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
It would because 1) he can't attack the turn he uses a Full Heal, so that's another turn you get to damage him for free and 2) he only uses 5 Full Heals per Pokemon, so with the right luck you can get 6 Poisons early in the fight, and then have him take Poison damage as you whittle him down. That was my original strategy when I tested this, and I could get to the Onix about 1 in 10 attempts.
Subbing; what a Chad runner. Can't wait to browse your back catalogue. Edit: That's not a euphemism, I'm married 🤣 Single folks, make sure you try "I can't wait to browse your back catalogue" as a pickup line. Guaranteed to have an outcome.
Lots to watch! I didn't even think of that as a euphemism until you said it 😂. But I'm married too, so I wasn't even thinking in that way. Good advice for those still on the hunt though!
Sheesh youre an animal! Im not skilled enough to come up with strategies like this. I just get good enough to beat the champion. I even suck at doing like battle tower and stuff. Subscribe earned my brother
@@RBYPokemonChallenges been enjoying all your videos brother! Thank you for replying! Check out mah-dry-bread pokemon runs if you havent already. Hes been a favorite of mine since 2019.
The live data feed is accessed directly through the rom by a software called Gamehook (which is no longer publicly available, but Scott's Thoughts recently released PokeByte, which basically does the same thing. As far as the actual data display, that is a custom application that I wrote to translate the raw data of the game and data from the PokeAPI. I haven't released my overlay application publicly at this point.
Regulation Red, a hack of rb that lets you do a variety of challenges, has a code that forces you to play the game with just a regular weedle. You can only get up to celadon because of hms, but it's doable. Although, the hikers in rock tunnel are some of the most horrible fights imaginable, and I only got through them through sheer dumb luck.
How can you manually edit the base stats of the Pokemon? I figured that it was the link on the description but that link is dead and when I tried to download it from somewhere else it's not giving me the option to manually edit base stats, just giving me the option to randomize it.
The base stats were edited in a Rom Hack, sorry I didn't include more info in the description. Google pokeyellow and it will get you to the right place.
What i have learned this adventure, being on steroids causes you to have pp issues and struggle. Just like IRL
See, Pokemon is fun and teaches real-life values
20:58 👻
This mf just won the Internet. Pack it up and go home, everyone.
Don’t forget that boosting yourself at 69 helps you beat an old lady
Damn thats funny. Good shit.
this is the Weedle that scared Misty early into the Anime.
She hates bugs because she knows Weedle is far to powerful!
You mean caterpie???
^^^^^^^^
@@kylewilliams8644 no, ash encountered a weedle before he caught caterpie, that weedle ends up being why the beedrill attack
@@lightningshinobi1665 but the comment stated the misty encounter. That encounter was with caterpie with misty quote, bugs are one of the most disgusting things. Ash replies, besides you, what are the others
It always amazed me as a kid that the human drinks like water and lemonade healed more health than a dedicated healing item, and cost significantly less.
True, such is the world of Pokemon
Potions must be those over the counter medicines with no scientific basis for the claims and just rely on placebo effect
@@tobiasmills9647 stay hydrated, king 💪
With potions you're just paying for the Pokemart brand name.
@TheDrCN 🤣
Finally, Eternamax Weedle.
This is why they never did that 😂
Eternamax Eterna-dle😭😭
Gamefreak: "Powercreep isn't that bad."
The powercreep:
Power creeping Gen 1 to the limit 😂
Too bad Eternatus Eternamax isn't playable.
Now we just need the logical consequence. Mewtwo with 255 Base Stats, to see what would be the theoretical fastest.
For sure. I have a concept around this in the works, both to find the speed and to test a few other things.
Gotta use the Fast growth rate too.
fast growth rate mew2 with max dvs and the ultimate moveset
@@TripDering Mew doesn't start with Psychic, so it could be slower.
Actually, I wonder what the best Pokemon would be with equalized stats. Crucial break points would probably mainly be a special attack (or at least something not resisted) before Brock, a good growth rate (unless those are standardized too), and general midgame options. Also, between stab body slam and psychic, being a normal or psychic type would be preferred.
Are we gonna ignore the fact that Godle42069's stats were in the 420's at level 69?
Nailed it!
"A small eternity" to beat Agatha with a Weedle, my brother in Christ that woman murdered me 400 times and that was with me using x-attacks lmao
Yes. She is truly the bug exterminator of Gen 1.
37:52 "could not beat giovanni without items"
Jrose11 : W E A K §
Rival, after that championship match: "I quit. I'm going into pokemon research"
The true story of Gary Oak, revealed
@@shadeblackwolf1508 infinite loop moment
4:50 for those wondering, in Gen 1 if a damage calc comes back as a number less than 1 the move just misses.
"But it failed!"
This can also happen if they use defense curl too many times as well, plus Poison is a physical type in these games too.
Yep, it generally happens only when a move is 4x resisted, but that is exactly the case with most Poison Sting users on Brock fwiw
So, I want to suggest something: a comparison run with max stats on a Pidgey, with only its level-up moves.
So what this run showed is that max stats on a Pokémon with a truly abysmal moveset is far superior to 0 stats on a Pokémon with a really phenomenal moveset. But I also think that this run doesn't really show just HOW busted max stats would normally be, purely because Weedle is the literal worst possible Pokémon that could potentially complete a run. It would basically be showing just how done dirty Weedle was to show just how much easier it would be with a Pokémon that has a generally bad moveset but still something that isn't outrageously handicapped like Weedle is.
Why Pidgey? Because it learns no offensive moves that are not Normal or Flying, with the highest base power being 40 by level up. It would be an absolutely dreary Pokémon to ever attempt minimum battles with normally - but I bet that it would wreck EVERYTHING with max stats, far better than Weedle did. I propose Pidgey rather than something like Caterpie or Magikarp because they are literally impossible on solo runs due to being unable to hit ghosts (unless you did shenanigans with Magikarp), while Pidgey can if it reaches level 28 and learns Wing Attack (which it will do before Rival 4 if Weedle did, since Pidgey is in Medium Slow while Weedle is in Medium Fast).
Essentially the idea would be, if Pidgey just utterly annihilates everything in front of it, then you can pretty much guarantee that any Pokémon with access to even one or two good moves or TMs would do as good or better. You basically wouldn't have to run any other Pokémon on it because it's more or less a guarantee that every other Pokémon is either outright impossible on minimum battles or would be even better via having better level-up moves or being able to learn any modestly useful TM.
I like the logic of this. I think there are a couple of cases to check though - Pidgey makes sense for one, but then a Pokemon like Rhyhorn would be another, just to see if the weaknesses to Ice, Water, and Grass prove to be too much in the late game.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Water weakness late game shouldnt be relavent with god stats as t-bolt should ohko all the water types.
25:25
Imagine being this opposing trainer. Your fighting a weedle probably on every steroid there is, it shreds 2 of your pokemon, then it just starts repeatedly spitting string at your third pokemon, as your pokemon tries and fails to beat the crap out of it. Then you lose, to a weedle.
Random lil intrusive thought I had.
Yeah, we were kind of disrespectful, weren't we...
@@Hamburger-f9u
That's not an intrusive thought that's just a normal thought unless you were thinking of a NSFW version of string shot
sptting string you mean spitting seed....
The speed tied to crit is really helping this lil guy out
Absolutely. Gen 1 crit rates were sometimes insane, capping out at 49.8% in this case.
The lesson I got here is: holy crud Poison sting is an awful move, especially in gen 1. If you had any other non-nornal move this may have been possible with minimum battles.
Oh yeah, but also base stats matter a ton. More so than moveset.
Yeah, at extremes, I think Stats can really trump moves. And honestly just about anything is better than Poison Sting due to resistances - I'd rather have Leech Life
I had a 999 base Stat weedle back in the day. Just for link battles.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Now we gotta see if we can customize weedles normal base stat total to guarantee a success.
this is what Youngster Joey is missing out on, he shoulda been a Bug Catcher
Fact! Weedless > Rattata
@@RBYPokemonChallenges I think it would only be right to try this again but with a top percentage Rattata next lol
Weedful > weedless
Absolutely love the editing you did on this vid! Really clean and informative, keep up the great work, dude!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is very silly and I enjoy it greatly.
To avoid having to change other trainers’ Pokémon you could replace Mew with whatever weirdo you want to do the run with. It would be its own kind of work, but you’d at least be able to run into the most one-sided mirror matches ever.
For sure. I need to learn the ins and outs of the disassembly better, but it should certainly be possible
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Is the pikachu player has as first partner different in the code of Yellow, or is it just a normal pikachu?
This is just Weedle's canon stats when Werster is attempting a speedrun of Pokemon Blue.
We finally gave him the correct stats!
20:00 Somehow that Weedle at level 29 has stats comparable to what fully evolved starters have at level 65 or 70, so yeah it's the stats that count sometimes!
Yeah, the stats were insane, since everything goes up by at least 5 per level.
17:55-17:57 I can imagine us going into work one day, and the boss goes boom as in angry, and we say we don't care. 🤣🤣🤣
This mainly seems to prove that struggle isn't that bad of a move. Try this with poison sting only, no struggles, and we'll see how far raw stats get you with a bad move.
IDK, Struggle is still pretty bad, it's just the massive HP that makes it manageable
Loki: I have an army.
Gamefreak: We have a weedle.
Weedle struggles, but gives Loki that CTE treatment
34:50 not gonna lie, you took more damage from struggle than the psychic moves, so chances are, you could probably beat him in your first attempt if you just used poison sting instead.
Far enough .
@@RBYPokemonChallenges or, perhaps, not far enough.
Taking "win with your favorites" to another level.
We do what we must lol
This reminds me of those bootleg Pokemon cards where its a Weedle with 40,000HP
Clearly this is all legitimate.
Intro to Lt. Surge was longer than a fight itself xD
I mean, he's a garbage man, not a Gym Leader, so it only makes sense
obviously now you need to do max stats for mewtwo with an ideal moveset from the start, just to see how fast it can blitz the game
Sounds fun
bongzilla at 0.000000000001% power moment
Bongzilla wishes he had this level of power 😂
@@RBYPokemonChallenges if only bug bite existed in gen1, then maybe he could 😂
@@RBYPokemonChallenges ✊️✊️✊️
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a while.
Something about this video bugged me... It was a Weedle farfetched for me...
😏👏
I can't remember if you purchased Lemonades for healing when you got to Celadon, they would help in runs like this since they're 4× as good as regular Potions and only ₱150 more expensive each.
RIP, you're absolutely right, Lemonade was the way to go. I just went potions since money wasn't really a concern (no buying vitamins or TMs etc), but in some runs that could really help.
I'm not sure how you would think of this but; buying Lemonades takes quite a lot longer than buying Super Potions and waiting to go get Hyper Potions. I think you made the right call in the run.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges
It takes some time to buy them one by one, so my intuition is that it may actually be slower than selling expensive items to buy Super Potions. 🤔
Something to consider is that the crits are hard carrying Poison Sting, which are really only procing because of the insane base Speed.
Yeah, Gen 1 Crit rates are kind of insane. But it works in reverse by ignoring stat drops and badge boost glitch.
@@RBYPokemonChallengesI mean yeah, but by the time you hit the 3rd/4th gym, you pretty much outstat everything anyway it wouldn't matter
To see recognition of Lord Bongzilla brings a tear to my eye. May all your weedle videos be blessed with bugtastic fortune!!!!!
Appreciate that, and yes, we recognize the GOATs on thsi channel.
Im so happy this video has been uploaded. It was the easiest prediction of my life.
Yeah, I was more interested to see exactly how it would end up. Everyone has done Weedle runs before o. UA-cam, myself included, so it was interesting to see if even Perfect stats could overcome the massive walls like Giovanni 3 and Agatha.
Man you have some the BEST ideas for solo/challenge runs! 10k subs as well WOOOT!! I've been here since you were around 2k subs I think?
Legend! Thank you for supporting for so long!
c'mon game freak just give Weedle poison jab already in legends ZA so it doesn't have to rely on a 15 base power move just to use its poison STAB. It's got two big horns just let it have something other than bug bite on the physical side PLEASE so it can actually have some sort of niche I just want to use the funny bug...
We need to start a petition.
"We ended up using all our pp and it screeched multiple times" 😅
Perfect sommentary
Don’t know how this was recommended but this is amazing content
Welcome and I hope you enjoy even more shenanigans
is it possible to modify the game so that you get the starter at level 4 and then have a rare candy in your bag to level up with before the first fight so that your stats update correctly
Probably, yes
I appreciate all the work you put into these! Having all the stats and stuff on the screen has to take a lot of time so mad props! Btw, the video description says "PREFECT" rather than "PERFECT."
I write PREFECT descriptions lol
Would it not have been easier to convert Mew into the Weedle since Mew isn't used in any battles anyway instead of replacing trainers' Weedles?
This is something J will try in my next run like this
Could you do this with a weedle that has thundershock as a substitute for electro web and twinneedle as a replacement for bug bite ?
I was messing with this exact idea with a Caterpie. stay tuned...
With these stat buffs, Weedle might finally have a niche in PU!
That would be incredible, wouldn't it?
This is my first time seeing one of your videos, this was really cool! I played this game all the time when it came out as a kid. I just now noticed Brock has rock in his name cause of this… my mind is blown how I’ve never notice that…
Even with the best stats with a Weedle, Agatha is still like playing the lottery. Lol
Thanks for checking out the channel! Yeah the type theme name is there for Brock, Misty, and Surge, but unfortunately tails off from there (though there are possible Japanese connections to their typings and less obvious connections in the localizations). Agatha is brutal for sure.
"255 BST?? That's probably a buff but it's not gonna do much..."
"Oh. Oh I see now.
You got it!
Hey this is still NOT GSC Pokémon Challenges!!!
Oh my lord..
I. LOVE. THE WEEDLE LINE! Beedrill has been my favorite Pokèmon for YEARS ever since i even found out about the game series in general.
And here you are, making its absolutely adorable might i add, first form, absolutely god-like ((as Weedle should be.)) and destroying the game with it! Absolute cinema.
I am so glad i stumbled upon this. I love seeing the Weedle line get appreciation! It may be one of the weakest, but down in my heart, it's the real champion.
Long live Godle42069. Long live the king.
Yesss!!!! I agree completely and I used to destroy the Caterpie line with my Weedless, Kakuna, and Beedrill as a child. Still think Beedrill is legit good with Swords Dance and STAB bug moves.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Can't wait for the day Beedrill gets brought back. And when it does, hopefully they keep some of the moves it could learn from like, the let's go games. ((Like Drill Run and Outrage.))
This line has a special place in my heart for a reason. And I'd love to see that reason be shown off again.
This is how I feel about eevee and jolteon. Maybe not as niche (but I've had a few friends who loved weedle over the years as well). But, every game I've played or fan made game, I always make sure to get a jolteon. And if it's not available, I'll always cheat in an eevee / thunderstone.
@@cheetah219 I can respect that. Out of the original three Eeveelutions I always thought Jolteon was the coolest and would use one if I was ever playing and could. The spark dog fox thing is awesome. 👍
this weedle cannot be contained
Don't stop me now...
The first thing that comes to mind seeing this thumbnail: 255 speed sounds like a solid crit chance.
Yeah, just short of a 50% crit rate
Using PP ups on Poison sting has to be the worst thing i've ever heard it used on in my life XD
to me, the worst part is him using the ethers, saving, and then just giving up on the battle. completely wasting them. and look at that, at the end of the game, when those items would be useable, he didnt have them. forcing him to use max ethers at the wrong time.
its that and the "minimal battle" added with "i will just use these rare candies now, even though i know its the worst decision, just because lolz", that made this so hard to watch.
its one thing to go unprepared to a challenge, its another to actively use the worst decision multiple times, KNOWING they are the worst decisions for no good reason.
There were still plenty of PP restoration items to be used. Restoring PP was never really an issue.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges i would disagree. at one point you ended up a full pp restore, which restored points to string shot. which was useless for you.
and in the fight against lorelai, you ended up having to use a full pp restore, while you only needed a normal ether, which you did not really have at hand. so you ended up being forced to use poison sting against both lorelai and bruno's entire team.
If you ever do a tombstoner challenge: I think that should be the best possible move, that is, combining fissure with swift. So it's a one-hit-KO-move but it can't miss
I'm planning it as a OHKO move with priority (think Quick Attack).
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Oh, that might be even stronger. Maybe. If it still gets it's failure possibilities, it is situational. Depends on the pokemon
But can you beat every possible game of Pokemon Yellow at the same time with OP Weedle on 255 base stats and 15 DVs? (ignore rules 1 through 3)
I saw that video of beating every possible version at once in Red/Blue iirc. Not sure how to set that up, but it's probably pretty similar...
With such high base stats I figured this would be an easy run.
Never woulda thought it'd be such a struggle.
Haha, this comment is perfect! 😂
Don’t know how I got here
But the editing is amazing and love the video so you earn my like and subscribe
That's awesome, thank you!
I'd like to see a run showing the power of badge boots were a pokemon has no bage boosts and one that starts the game with them
For sure, it would be pretty easy to do. Basic badge boosts are just a +12.5% modifier, bit that can become really good late even before we get into badge boost glitch
Probably a boring idea but this video got me thinking about a video idea of how OP a Magikarp would be if Splash was a base 255 water move?
Something similar is in my plans at some point.
This is a really nice layout for Pokemon challenges I kind of wish more UA-camrs would do this
Cheers, lots of guys have overlays these days, but everyone does them a little differently
Lorelei is the ultimate Kantō waifu.
This is a serious debate in which I think the opinion changes over time. 10-year-old me: Sabrina. 13 year-old me: Erika, 20 year-old me Lorelei, 35-year-old me: Sabrina or Lorelei depending on the day.
Shorts are comfy and easy to wear!
This was the best line of dialogue in the history of the Pokemon franchise - I dare anyone to prove me wrong 😂
This was a lot more interesting than I expected it to be. I really thought 255 attack would carry Poison Sting a lot harder than it ended up doing. And it still carried pretty hard, I just didn't expect this many roadblocks.
Part of me wonders if perfect DVs would have bridged some of the gaps here. I'm thinking yeah, probably, as most of the time all you needed was a few more numbers to make the impossible possible.
Move base power matters, way more than I thought it did.
Yeah, I think DVs wouldn't have done anything against Brock and Giovanni since they don't scale that much. But the later fights with Giovanni and Agatha could have been helped by Max DVs and early vitamins...
Double the stat total is kinda deceiving, because the stat increases stack multiplicatively, kinda. The benefit each stat gives doesn't just add to the mix, they all interact with the other benefits. If you double everything, then your only issue will be poison sting. And it will be AN issue, likely.
Next up, how mind numbingly absurd would a mewtwo with 255 base in everything be (slap 65565 on stat experience in all stats for extra comedic effect)
Truly absurd. But I have other plans for that
Keep it up! I run when watching pokemon content, the champion intro felt so long ^^.
Cheers.
IT would still SUCK and still possibly BE Impossible due to it ONLY having Poison sting as its ONLY attack which even with 255 stats is still CRAP.
There are worse ones out there. Quite a few, really
Well Magi Carp with 255 stats is MORE doable then Weedle since Poison sting does CRAP damage even though Magi Carp would be stuck with Tackle as its ONLY ATTACK move since Splash its only OTHER move does nothing at all and both Weedle and Magi Carp can't use ANY HM/TM's at all.
@@veghesther3204 its not, its literaly impossible to beat the game in gen 1 with a magicarp, even if it had stats in the thousands. it only has access to normal attacks, making it completely useless against the forced channelers in the ghost tower.
dude isnt even able to beat more than half the game, that alone make it far less useable than weedle. by a LONG shot. even if poison sting is bad, its still a diferent type than normal. allowing it to bypass that.
Finally, my lore accurate self
You are the legend the anime always made you out to be!
Weedle if game freak knew what they were doing
What is the song that comes in at 16:03?
I'd like to know too
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What I'm learning from this is that high stats seem to matter a lot defensively. It seems like the importance of offensive stats scale with how good your moves are. Godlike stats didn't seem to make a huge difference with poison sting, but with struggle it seemed to matter a lot more, but not as much as I really expected it to matter. Seems like with a good enough move after a certain point you'd just always one shot. Not sure what point that would be, though, and we aren't going to find out from this video.
Seems like the biggest problem is that struggle's recoil does a percentage of your health, so it doesn't matter how high your stats are, you have a limited number of struggles before you lose.
Basically, yes. Offense is more about move power, whereas defense it more about stats overall. It's because on the damage calcs, the offensive stat is calculated as a ratio over the opponent's defensive stat, so unless the target has a really lower defensive stat, the value of the attacking stat isn't as important.
the calc is (2*level* move power/5) *(attacking stat/defensive stats) * type effectiveness * critical, so there are lots of other factors that increase attack power beyond the attacking stat.
I guess it's splitting hairs but Bug isn't weak to Psychic; Poison is.
Doesn't matter much with Weedle, I guess.
RIP, I must have misspoke in the commentary. Sorry for that, you are 100% right!
@RBYPokemonChallenges it technically doesn't matter with Weedle, just a minor thing that doesn't change the choices you made in the run.
For Sabrina's gym: Try diagonal, diagonal, vertical.
That's the fastest way to get to her room.
Yeah I take the second fastest route due to playing sped up. It's much harder to avoid unnecessary fights with diagonals whilst uses the up down down left is completely consistent while avoiding trainers
@RBYPokemonChallenges that makes sense! :) ty
I would have preferred the name "WeedGod" over Godle personnally. Guess that would leave less spaces for funny numbers.
Yeah, I thought about something like that or a play on Bongzilla of some sort, hut really wanted the nicest numbers in the name lol 🤣
Ah, so Weedle wasn't included in the OG because he was Saiyan training in another dimension and is just now emerging back into Realspace. Got it.
Yeah, he was clearly in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for a couple decades to reach this point.
It’s crazy how movepool is more important than stats you should do a comparison with an average weedle but he can use earthquake lol
Sounds like a fun challenge.
i thought this video was a hypothetical on the competitive scene if god weedle was in it.
It might just make PU
You're almost up to 10k subs!
As a lifelong Weedle lover, this was just a really fun and cute video! Thank you for showing the true value in our little wormy buddy to the world.
He deserves I think one or two more runs, just for balance purposes, like a level 255 Weedle for a thought experiment.
I watched this video about 6 times and still don’t know what happened. Gotta keep watching
Perfect!
I feel like a more optimized run definitely could have gotten a score above 90 with this scoring system. Not being able to remove paralysis definitely lowered things by the end too.
Yeah that was a mistake at the end, but honestly Lance and the Champion weren't much of an issue in the end. It was Agatha and Giovanni that really caused us trouble.
Very interesting, you sir have a new subscriber 👍
Awesome, thank you!
58:23 so we beat the old lady with a level 69, that was rough lol hahaha duuuuude, think about all the MEMES, the MEMES
Yeah, we needed the PP Up on the old woman. I have the best commentary, and Pokemon is a literal goldmine
the question is not only, can we,
but should we?
I answer yes to both, but then again sometimes I want to see the world of Pokemon burn in the unrelenting rage of the forgotten Pokemon that was the one and only lord Bongzilla.
I wonder how Weedle would do if it had it's normal stats, but had access to butterfry's moveset. If it could use all the TMs butterfry can and the same HMs (excluding fly obviously).
Weedle is so bad because it has to use the worst move in gen 1, not so much it's bad stats as has been demonstrated here.
I think it would benefit more from Beedrill's set - Swords Dance, Bug STAB, give it Kakuna's Harden and I think we're cooking.
LT Spooge had no chance against Godle42069. Rumor has it he went back to being a garbage man after this fight.
Confirmed
Will you do the youngster Joey challenge max stat ratata
Maybe someday
Godle42069 is just three mewtwos in a trench coat
I think you may be right lol
congrats on 10k subs
Thank you so much 😀
>Lord dome
DOME?!?
HERETIC
23:14 "We're also getting confused which could be bad if we hit ourselves because we have really high attack"
_Does 13 damage to itself_
You forgot you also have really high defense as well
Yeah... RIP
5:39 WOULD that help? IIRC, Brock has ten Full Heals (& no Potions?!) for some reason, & Poison only does 1/16th each turn in Gen 1, right?
Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
It would because 1) he can't attack the turn he uses a Full Heal, so that's another turn you get to damage him for free and 2) he only uses 5 Full Heals per Pokemon, so with the right luck you can get 6 Poisons early in the fight, and then have him take Poison damage as you whittle him down. That was my original strategy when I tested this, and I could get to the Onix about 1 in 10 attempts.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Nice! Thanks for the info!
Subbing; what a Chad runner. Can't wait to browse your back catalogue.
Edit: That's not a euphemism, I'm married 🤣
Single folks, make sure you try "I can't wait to browse your back catalogue" as a pickup line. Guaranteed to have an outcome.
Lots to watch! I didn't even think of that as a euphemism until you said it 😂. But I'm married too, so I wasn't even thinking in that way. Good advice for those still on the hunt though!
Sheesh youre an animal! Im not skilled enough to come up with strategies like this. I just get good enough to beat the champion. I even suck at doing like battle tower and stuff. Subscribe earned my brother
Appreciate the sub! Thanks for hanging out!
@@RBYPokemonChallenges been enjoying all your videos brother! Thank you for replying! Check out mah-dry-bread pokemon runs if you havent already. Hes been a favorite of mine since 2019.
I like the editing.
What is that software called that keeps track of your pokemons and your opponents pokemons stats and updates them real time?
The live data feed is accessed directly through the rom by a software called Gamehook (which is no longer publicly available, but Scott's Thoughts recently released PokeByte, which basically does the same thing. As far as the actual data display, that is a custom application that I wrote to translate the raw data of the game and data from the PokeAPI. I haven't released my overlay application publicly at this point.
I know it's a pain to get a large number of them, but wouldn't Lemonades have been much more cost-efficient than Super Potions or even Hyper Potions?
Yeah, it was certainly a mistake on my part.
Regulation Red, a hack of rb that lets you do a variety of challenges, has a code that forces you to play the game with just a regular weedle. You can only get up to celadon because of hms, but it's doable. Although, the hikers in rock tunnel are some of the most horrible fights imaginable, and I only got through them through sheer dumb luck.
That sounds truly terrible 😂
Lord bongzilla, when he tries
Yeah, I think Jake McCauley gave up and just evolved into a Beedrill on Giovanni iirc
How can you manually edit the base stats of the Pokemon? I figured that it was the link on the description but that link is dead and when I tried to download it from somewhere else it's not giving me the option to manually edit base stats, just giving me the option to randomize it.
The base stats were edited in a Rom Hack, sorry I didn't include more info in the description. Google pokeyellow and it will get you to the right place.
Doing some back-of-the-napkin maths, I don't think perfect DVs would have changed much for Godle42069 anyway... A difference of about 20 at level 70?
Yeah, it's exactly 21 points at level 70.
45:04 something no man has ever said before.
Making history with this one 😂