Imagine being a legendary trainer who has battled... everyone, has scary strong pokemon and has secluded himself in a cave because like Saitama is depressed no one can challenge him. And then you lose to Misty's sex toy.
Gold & Silver is probably the best generation for metronome, the movepool isn't as shallow and broken as in R/B/Y but it's shallow enough that there are more good options than bad
@@patg148 sure in a vacuum, truth is the games are SO flawed they arent even close. but it definitely is a competitor with imo the best music, incredible polish, and new mechanics.
@@patg148 Ahh yes the games with an atrocious level curve,give the Johto leaders mostly Kanto pokemon, lock most of the new ones until after Lance, and having gym leaders weaker than the champion league are the best. AHAHAHA no.
@@ronnieriosstayshredded7410 I skipped on R/S/E and didn't get back in 'til Platinum, but I won't lie that I thought secret bases seemed like a cute, cozy little addition.
33:07 Just to let you know, Fire Blast would not thaw you out if you're frozen. The only two moves that self-thaw in Gen 2 are Flame Wheel and Sacred Fire. Outside of those, you have a 1-in-5 chance of defrosting on your own. Game Freak put that in there to prevent freeze from being the virtual death sentence that it was in Gen 1.
@naaat You had NO chance at all of thawing. The one and only way to defrost (without items) is for the opponent to hit you with a Fire-type move that *also* has a chance to burn... so funny enough, Fire Spin would not cause a thaw despite literally wrapping you in flames. If the opponent didn't hit you with a Fire move, your Pokémon was completely and utterly helpless until it was KOed.
You glossed over how insane STAB return is in gen 2. It's not 102 plus stab. It's 102 plus stab, plus plain badge type boost. Making it a 172 base power move. Unless you are hitting 90 base power super effective moves, or a quad effective move. Return is always better.
That is not taking stats into consideration though, but just pure power. Like when he used HP against Onix. Onix almost has 4 times the Def than Sp Def. Special moves matters at that point.
Rollout and Return are insanelly broken in Gen 2. I just love how different generations have different exploits that breaks the game. As an 30's person, badge boost glitch will always be my favorite
I think this run showcases how good being part of the fast level up group is, and how important having a wide move pool is. You almost always had a move that did what you needed, and that's not often the case in your runs. Unofficial Gold/Silver Rankings: 1) Togepi 2) Shuckle 3) Zubat 4) Wobbuffet
@@matissimoj1190 Yes he did. I had forgotten it. Based on the level to where he beat Red, the Magikarp would be above Zubat, but Jrose doesn't provide time for these runs.
Recently did an emerald nuzlocke and my strategy for most of the second half of the game was guts swellow using return. That move can carry you through most of the game as long as you get stab on it.
Omg I loved using metronome in Silver. I love how the madness affects both the opp and Togepi. I always felt bad for the self-destructs... But it was such a fun gamble.
Ever since the GS beta came out, Togepi has the most interesting development, first it didn't have an evolution, meaning its base stats could've been between Farfetch'd and Heracross and second, it had an actual moveset: (1) Peck, (8)Withdraw, (15) Mirror Move, (22) Charm, (29) Spike Cannon, (36) Protect, (43) Recover, (50) Skull Bash. Not great, but way better than its final.
@@UltraAryan10 Ironically though Heracross sucks eggs to actually use. Nothing but an unimpressive array of Normal-type moves. Until mid-game Gen 3 anyway.
I did some calculations yesterday and despite the fact that this is not a red/blue run I wanna tell you about it anyway. Not acknowledging the stat multipliers from the moves used. If a pokemon in generation 1 got 36 badge boosts (6 for attack, defense, special, speed, evasion and accuracy) it could get an attack stat (or any other stat) from 9 all the way up to 624 which I was honestly shocked to see (Edit: I'm bad at typing)
Heya, nice to see some math being done on this! Did you factor in the initial badge boost from just having the badge as well as the normal boost from having the stats actually boosted? I got something in the thousands doing this, so I wanted to see how you did stuff.
Might just be me but I love how you're recording Gen 2 the colours look really nice without oversaturating the hell out of it like other content creators that I've seen. Reminds me a lot of how I remember playing it as a kid but in HD
The GBA and GBC produce colors differently. So playing a GBC game on the GBA actually does look a little different on the handhelds themselves. Most emulators will default to the GBA colors but some people are nostalgic for the GBC colors. I believe VBA is the only emulator that lets you select a more accurate GBC look. Which is surprising as BGB's goal is emulation accuracy.
Really happy to see a GSC run. I inherited a copy of Gold as a kid from an older cousin and I still own it to this day along with my gameboy color. By far my favorite pokemon game ever, so its only natural I should love this one more than I love your other videos.
@@Mattdoc15210 Man thats pretty funny! Too bad im breaking the tradition. Not even my kids are going to touch my gold cartridge.. at least not for awhile.
Return on normal types is ridiculously broken in gen 2, it's so fun. I did a Rattatta/Raticate solo run, and towards the end, anything that didn't resist normal, I oneshot with Return, and anything that did resist normal, I killed with Super Fang + Return.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 it was a while ago, but i think for things like rock pokémon i'd use super fang once or twice and then return until dead. i don't think i killed rock pokémon with one of each.
Once the strategy for red was figured out, it was smooth. And it's impressive to see Bruno actually have something he is effective against. Honestly I don't remember the last time I was this excited during a jrose11 video. It had everything it needed from the commentary to the game play to the quality of the pokemon itself. Think I am going to have to reconsider using it.
So, you sweep a Gym with a move that the Gym itself gives you AFTER beating it? I think you are a bit confused, unless you transferred that Togepi to another file.
Right? The amount of effort they put into this game alone is insane. It sucks to think about how much you hear about how game freak dev's are always over worked and spread super thin these days, yet their games feel like they have barely half the love and care that gen 2 had. Hopefully SV changes that
@@AS34N Generation 2 was supposed to be the finalé to the series; that's why the final boss is _You_ from the previous game. Once the GameBoy Advance was developed, Nintendo was instantly "oh we NEED a Pokémon game for this", and made _Creatures Inc._ start again; which, as nice as some of the other games can be, means none of them have as much care & dedication Generation 2 had.
@@haroldhall1517 They used some of the better ones like Silver Gyarados but some of the worse ones like Gold Lugia. Gold in general had worse sprites I think
2:30 I could write a scenario where Bugsy's team comp could work in a remake scenario- if this was using the "gym leader uses their own TM" situation, and this was a gen with u turn, then it could work. Scyther is fast and hard hitting. Many of us might be tempted to just tank a hit and try to retaliate with a fire or flying move. But bam- the scyther switches to a kakuna that takes the hit for it. Then the kakuna does a poison sting, poisoning your one good typed pokemon, and they weapon you down with stall tactics until the scyther comes back to finish you off.
We've had the great droughts between his bursts of uploads but this really seems promising for the future. He has an editor editing his videos for him, he has a long streak of interesting and diverse challenge runs with of course, his trademarked Gen1 runs. And he doesn't seem burned out at all, his commentary is full of vigor. This is the 2nd golden age of Jrose content and I'm grateful for that.
Metronome is my absolute favorite move in all of pokemon just because of how random it can be. If it doesn't already, they need to update it to be able to use moves from every single generation as long as it's not a signature, z-move, or dynamax/gigantamax only move Pure chaos is absolutely amazing, so an updated metronome would be the absolute best move ever
Metronome battles were a thing in gens 6 and 7. Is that not a thing in sword and shield? Nothing like a snorlax using acrobatics somehow or a clefairy using judgment. I think gen 7 is the best because with normalium Z you basically use the Z version of whatever moves it calls
Nah, it absolutely should be able to use signature moves. It's so rare anyways. The others I agree with. It can already copy some exclusive moves as it is.
Honestly? I spend an unhealthy amount of time watching your videos. I've had a pretty rotten last two months and these videos have almost been a tonic, so thank you.
I remember doing something similar with Aipom in a Gold Nuzlocke (Called Mandy). Gave her Return, Shadow Ball, Cut and Thief. She was surprisingly strong and bulky for a Pokemon that didn’t have a ton of base stats. But she went all the way to the Elite 4 and to Lance. I got into trouble with Dragonite, and thought the best thing was to let Aipom go out in a blaze of glory by taking on the Champion’s ace Pokemon, chipping it down for Typhlosion, Tentacruel or Espeon to get the revenge kill. Hit it with a Return which does lots of damage and it attacks with Outrage…AND SURVIVED!! I was screaming the place down with shock that Aipom took a non-defuffed Dragonite and not only lived, but defeated it too. I have no idea how it happened, and quite frankly I don’t want to know. But Aipom bringing down a pseudo legendary was honestly one of the best moments I’ve had as a Pokemon fan.
Great vid as always jrose. Really surprised how well Togepi did, especially since I feel like baby Pokémon were designed to be even weaker than normal stage 1 Pokémon!
Jrose, you are truly one of the greatest content creators of all times. I watch each video a minimum of 2 times and I can't wait to see what all else comes from this channel.
watching these are crazy for me. not only the memories this shit brings back but how the hell are you still doing these??? the content literally doesnt get old at all
The content never gets old just like how starting over a new Pokemon game game never game never gets old. Every new game is a the start of a new adventure, full of possibilities.
Since you're banking for winning with 5turn rollout anyway, why not use Safeguard to prevent Sleep for 5 turns and use a Berry or an item to increase your attacking power or accuracy? Since the most dangerous part is Haunter using Rollout 1 and Curse ticking 25%, an ordinary Berry could have very well saved you
He has an odd number of health so no matter what, he gets 5 turns of curse before he dies. A berry heals for 10 hp, which is nowhere near the 21 health he would need to survive a 6th tick of curse.
Love to see another video! I enjoy watching every one you’re putting out! Would love to see a Red/Blue Pinsir run! My favourite gen 1 and some decent stats for hopefully a good run!
It seems like there are simply too many mandatory battles. That, combined with Togepi's level-up group is what caused the major 'issues.' Still, it's strange that Togepi was doing so much damage. Like, in your Rattata run, it wasn't doing much at all by the Elite Four. I don't know. It just felt like Togepi was doing too much damage for its stats. Then again, these Pokemon are 1/2 to 2/3s your level and you are 3 shotting them. So, I dunno...
I thought about doing this run but I learned it is such a nightmare to grind a metronome run of this so I kinda stopped at ecruteak I did learn about memento being a Gen 2 move that's fun to reset
i have just started a play of that, i am loving it so far, nice to start with Houndour instead of waiting till beyond the halfway point, seriously, what the f**k was with adding NEW pokeomon, into the PREVIOUIS region? they clearly thought it was fine cos HG/SS KEPT IT!
2:52 Funny story about that. In one fangame, there's a virtual Johto League you can play through using premade teams. The devs improved all of the Leaders' teams: Bugsy does indeed have Ariados, Ledian and Scyther, Morty actually has a *Mismagius*, Jasmine has a team of five including a Scizor, and so on. It's cool.
I wondered why you went for headbutt instead of double edge on poliwrath that one time. My only thought was Dynamic punch is going to ohko you either way lol
Chuck got my Typhlosion with surf. He had swept the rest of my poorly trained team so I sent Togepi last, ready to accept my fate. Chuck's move misses, I go metronome and boom hyper beam and I win. Togepi goes up a bunch of levels and it evolves. One of the only battles I remember from my childhood lol
Metronome is just hilarious. It's like during the show Metalocalypse when the band gets some mail. Nathan Explosion is going through the mail and says "Naked lady fan mail. Could be awesome, could be horrible." Metronome really is the same. Could be awesome, could be horrible. But that's part of the fun.
.. I'm shocked for just how well Togepi did, but I guess it makes some sense considering just how versatile it's learnset can be, and partially because of how wonky Johto can be in terms of Levels. Would love to see a redo of this in gen 3 - I feel like Togepi would likely struggle in Emerald a bit more than FR/LG due to Brawly, Norman, Tate/Liza and hell, maybe even some of the E4 like Phoebe.
have you ever considered trying out "crystal clear"? its a romhack of crystal that lets you start in any town (johto OR kanto), has level scaling gyms and gym rematches, trainers levels scale (wild pokemons do NOT), character customization, and even a built in nuzlocke mode if you felt inclined. tms arent infinite use, but theyre all still renewable (you have access to more tms at the dept stores as you get more badges) and theres a move relearner. theres also 3 tutors: one for kanto only tm moves (so any gen 1 mons can still learn their gen 1 tm moves), one for event-exclusive moves, and one known as the "battle tutor," which is basically "hey why doesnt X learn Y? here i made it so X can learn Y :)" oh and ofc all 251 mons are catchable. theres even a "tradeback guy" in the dept store who will let you do trade evos. i could go on and on and still not mention all the added features QoL stuff. but. yeah. id highly recommend taking a look!
GSC always feels like they originally intended the Elite Four to be challenged after having ALL SIXTEEN badges, given the weird experience curve. It would explain a bit about the Kanto gym levels and the difficulty in grinding to be on par with the Elite Four after just Johto.
Fun fact: in the G/S beta, Togepi was evidently intended to be a Legendary, appearing at the end of the Pokédex next to Ho-Oh with whom it shared a base stat total of 550.
I was literally actively looking for a good togepi run to watch like two days ago, out of what I found by far most exciting no disrespect to others, please do Togekiss in the future, I wanna see how good Serene Grace could be!?! (If you want anyhow :'> )
Also i noticed dragon fang in your inventory probably to boost hidden power dragon, however the item that does that in this game is the dragon scale despite what the text says. Its a gen 2 bug, dragon fang only works in stadium 2.
The Pokemon randomizer I use allows you to increase the levels of all the trainers by up to 50% (so a level 40 Pokemon becomes level 60). It might be fun to try that on a gsc game and use like Mewtwo or something.
Love this run. The first time I beat the elite 4 on crystal as a kid was because my last pokemon in my party, a level 9 Togepi, managed to get a damaging move with metronome on Lance's last Dragonite while he was recharging his hyperbeam. This was after killing my Feraligatr which had left him with what must have been 1 hp.
This was way too entertaining 😂. I'm an old school gamer so gen 1 and 2 are very nostalgic for me. Now do a Missingno in the impossible series already! Lol
(33:38) Heh, Civilian Surge. Is it even possible to demote him any further? (44:44) Huh, Detect? Why not Protect instead? It has 10 PP instead of 5, and is buyable at Celadon, and nearly every Pokémon can learn it. Meanwhile, Detect is not a TM that you can obtain again, has fewer PP, and not every Pokémon can learn it.
Jrose: No one: "Jrose, I'm super sus of your RNG." Legit if people question your integrity after *ALL* the challenges you've done, all the time you've wasted on many Magikarp runs, the time you're *going* to probably waste on Weedle, just, man.
I'll be honest. Was expecting two things from this run. 1- Keeping Metronome the entire run. 2- Wondering how long before Metronome inevitably triggered Selfdestruct/Explosion. While I was disappointed with the former, I was more than pleased with the latter! Nevertheless, this was a very entertaining run. One of the best for sure. The hype was justified.
Imagine taking over your Elite Four Father's Gym, trying to make him proud, and losing to a Pokemon that hasn't fully hatched yet.
Hey, that father was in the Elite 4 and lost to the Pokemon that hasn't hatched yet. That's worse
They both lost to the same unhatchling, but neither of them know it because they’re both too ashamed to say it
None of the Elite 4 are confirmed as his father. It's just a baseless theory.
Imagine being a legendary trainer who has battled... everyone, has scary strong pokemon and has secluded himself in a cave because like Saitama is depressed no one can challenge him. And then you lose to Misty's sex toy.
@@jimcanterak7349
MISTYS SEX TOY!?!
WAHT THE 😭
Gold & Silver is probably the best generation for metronome, the movepool isn't as shallow and broken as in R/B/Y but it's shallow enough that there are more good options than bad
Gold & Silver is probably the best generation
@@patg148 yea no bullshit side content like secret bases, shows, etc
@@patg148 sure in a vacuum, truth is the games are SO flawed they arent even close. but it definitely is a competitor with imo the best music, incredible polish, and new mechanics.
@@patg148 Ahh yes the games with an atrocious level curve,give the Johto leaders mostly Kanto pokemon, lock most of the new ones until after Lance, and having gym leaders weaker than the champion league are the best. AHAHAHA no.
@@ronnieriosstayshredded7410 I skipped on R/S/E and didn't get back in 'til Platinum, but I won't lie that I thought secret bases seemed like a cute, cozy little addition.
33:07
Just to let you know, Fire Blast would not thaw you out if you're frozen. The only two moves that self-thaw in Gen 2 are Flame Wheel and Sacred Fire. Outside of those, you have a 1-in-5 chance of defrosting on your own. Game Freak put that in there to prevent freeze from being the virtual death sentence that it was in Gen 1.
I didn't know that self-thawing was actually possible; it has only ever been a death sentence every single time I've seen it executed, always.
In gsc you actually have a 1/10 chance of defrosting.
how bad was it in gen 1?
@naaat You had NO chance at all of thawing. The one and only way to defrost (without items) is for the opponent to hit you with a Fire-type move that *also* has a chance to burn... so funny enough, Fire Spin would not cause a thaw despite literally wrapping you in flames.
If the opponent didn't hit you with a Fire move, your Pokémon was completely and utterly helpless until it was KOed.
What's Sacred Fire?
You glossed over how insane STAB return is in gen 2. It's not 102 plus stab. It's 102 plus stab, plus plain badge type boost. Making it a 172 base power move. Unless you are hitting 90 base power super effective moves, or a quad effective move. Return is always better.
It’s actually about 167.3 base power since the badge type boost is a 10% bonus.
don't forget the pink bow
Yeah it makes every normal Pokémon super OP. Like Togepi looks good now but I bet other Pokémon could easily beat the game at a lower level.
That is not taking stats into consideration though, but just pure power. Like when he used HP against Onix. Onix almost has 4 times the Def than Sp Def. Special moves matters at that point.
Fun fact, Ratata is a god tier pokemon to start Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Rollout and Return are insanelly broken in Gen 2. I just love how different generations have different exploits that breaks the game. As an 30's person, badge boost glitch will always be my favorite
1930's??? Or do you mean a person IN their 30's??
@@TheWizardMus Or both? 🤔
an 30’s person? 🥴
@@TheWizardMus maybe a 30s B.C. person
What is broken about Return?
Togepi uses SELFDESTRUCT.
So the translate function puts a space between SelfDestruct lol. (SELF DESTRUCT)
I think this run showcases how good being part of the fast level up group is, and how important having a wide move pool is. You almost always had a move that did what you needed, and that's not often the case in your runs.
Unofficial Gold/Silver Rankings:
1) Togepi
2) Shuckle
3) Zubat
4) Wobbuffet
didn't he use magikarp as well?
@@matissimoj1190 Yes he did. I had forgotten it. Based on the level to where he beat Red, the Magikarp would be above Zubat, but Jrose doesn't provide time for these runs.
You should probably update this
Zubat is insane in gold/silver
@@faulsname8869 these ranking are based on his other times when I made the comment.
With Return, it turns out that friendship really was the strongest power all along.
just like in his Bidoof run
Maybe the real friends were the asses we kicked along the way
Recently did an emerald nuzlocke and my strategy for most of the second half of the game was guts swellow using return. That move can carry you through most of the game as long as you get stab on it.
I'm gonna defeat you with the power of friendship and this tm I found
Oh wow I remember waiting forever watching the show to see that egg hatch. Hearing the first "togepreeee!" was truly a momentous occasion
Same tbh
Omg I loved using metronome in Silver. I love how the madness affects both the opp and Togepi. I always felt bad for the self-destructs... But it was such a fun gamble.
I liked seeing Sacred Fire being called via Metronome in Stadium 2.
"It's 4 AM babe, it's time for your Jrose video out of nowhere"
"Yes honey!"
Every time Jrose says "I'm going with a bit of a different strat" it's rollout. It's always rollout lol
Ever since the GS beta came out, Togepi has the most interesting development, first it didn't have an evolution, meaning its base stats could've been between Farfetch'd and Heracross and second, it had an actual moveset: (1) Peck, (8)Withdraw, (15) Mirror Move, (22) Charm, (29) Spike Cannon, (36) Protect, (43) Recover, (50) Skull Bash. Not great, but way better than its final.
I’m gonna have to try and see if togepi actually learns it’s moves
Why do you think it could have been between Farfetch’d and Heracross?
@@Justpassingby204 Farfetch'd was among the worst monoevo before Gen 7 buff while Heracross is among the best statwise
@@UltraAryan10 Ironically though Heracross sucks eggs to actually use. Nothing but an unimpressive array of Normal-type moves.
Until mid-game Gen 3 anyway.
@@acumenium8157 It was probably for gen 2's style of balance, I like using Heracross in HGSS but its bad like every other johto pokemon in GSC
I did some calculations yesterday and despite the fact that this is not a red/blue run I wanna tell you about it anyway. Not acknowledging the stat multipliers from the moves used. If a pokemon in generation 1 got 36 badge boosts (6 for attack, defense, special, speed, evasion and accuracy) it could get an attack stat (or any other stat) from 9 all the way up to 624 which I was honestly shocked to see (Edit: I'm bad at typing)
You dont have to be good at typing as long as you are good at maths
@@bentaylor3554 I'm gonna be honest I used a calculator cuz percentages is like 1 of 2 things I'm bad at doing in my head (the other being division)
I'm bad at math but I'm good at meth
Gotta be careful with those. It’s possible to boost into an integer overflow and end up with super low stats instead.
Heya, nice to see some math being done on this! Did you factor in the initial badge boost from just having the badge as well as the normal boost from having the stats actually boosted? I got something in the thousands doing this, so I wanted to see how you did stuff.
What an egg-celent run. You left your opponents scrambled.
Quit cracking so many yolks---er, jokes
Omelette you have this one..
This is egg-xausting
@@BobTheAnimator101 these jokes crack me up
I've egg-xaminated this sentence and it cracked me wide open
Metronome. Feeding childrens' gambling addictions since the 90's
Might just be me but I love how you're recording Gen 2 the colours look really nice without oversaturating the hell out of it like other content creators that I've seen. Reminds me a lot of how I remember playing it as a kid but in HD
The GBA and GBC produce colors differently. So playing a GBC game on the GBA actually does look a little different on the handhelds themselves. Most emulators will default to the GBA colors but some people are nostalgic for the GBC colors. I believe VBA is the only emulator that lets you select a more accurate GBC look. Which is surprising as BGB's goal is emulation accuracy.
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What about Pokémon Stadium 2?
Really happy to see a GSC run. I inherited a copy of Gold as a kid from an older cousin and I still own it to this day along with my gameboy color. By far my favorite pokemon game ever, so its only natural I should love this one more than I love your other videos.
I got my copy of Silver from my older cousin too. Extreme nostalgia...
@@Mattdoc15210 Man thats pretty funny! Too bad im breaking the tradition. Not even my kids are going to touch my gold cartridge.. at least not for awhile.
I bought it on Nintendo 3ds so good
With no exaggeration, seeing a new Jrose video in my feed makes my day exponentially better than it ever could be any other day.
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I really hoping too see some Fire Red runs soon. I would love to compare them to the Red/Blue runs
Me too, they’re my favorite
Togepi!! The Togepi line is my absolute favorite, so happy to see how good the little guy can do on its own!
Return on normal types is ridiculously broken in gen 2, it's so fun. I did a Rattatta/Raticate solo run, and towards the end, anything that didn't resist normal, I oneshot with Return, and anything that did resist normal, I killed with Super Fang + Return.
Wouldn't you only need to use return twice if super fang got it in range?
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 it was a while ago, but i think for things like rock pokémon i'd use super fang once or twice and then return until dead. i don't think i killed rock pokémon with one of each.
@@hoodiegalFun fact: Rat learns Dig to crush Rock-types and get around Ghost-types since Levitate doesn't exist in Gen 2.
@@autobotstarscream765 Right, I was using Dig to hit ghosts! I had forgotten about that
Once the strategy for red was figured out, it was smooth. And it's impressive to see Bruno actually have something he is effective against. Honestly I don't remember the last time I was this excited during a jrose11 video. It had everything it needed from the commentary to the game play to the quality of the pokemon itself. Think I am going to have to reconsider using it.
I actually used the Togepi line (Gen 2) for the fun of "metronome" in a run before. And I felt the "selfdestruct" may times during the run.
Togepi and its line have always been some of my favorites, I always taught it shadow ball and felt so proud when it swept Morty's gym in Gold :)
So, you sweep a Gym with a move that the Gym itself gives you AFTER beating it? I think you are a bit confused, unless you transferred that Togepi to another file.
So you traded for shadow ball to beat Morty?
oh you guys are right i got it backwards. togepi would sweep the gym and THEN learn shadow ball. sorry, it's been 20+ years
Another thing that is wild watching this is realizing Gold and Silver really had their own set of sprites for each Pokémon.
Right? The amount of effort they put into this game alone is insane. It sucks to think about how much you hear about how game freak dev's are always over worked and spread super thin these days, yet their games feel like they have barely half the love and care that gen 2 had. Hopefully SV changes that
@@AS34N
Generation 2 was supposed to be the finalé to the series; that's why the final boss is _You_ from the previous game.
Once the GameBoy Advance was developed, Nintendo was instantly "oh we NEED a Pokémon game for this", and made _Creatures Inc._ start again; which, as nice as some of the other games can be, means none of them have as much care & dedication Generation 2 had.
G/S is my favorite generation, nothing will ever surpass it in my eyes.
And Crystal's sprites are much better
@@haroldhall1517 They used some of the better ones like Silver Gyarados but some of the worse ones like Gold Lugia. Gold in general had worse sprites I think
2:30 I could write a scenario where Bugsy's team comp could work in a remake scenario- if this was using the "gym leader uses their own TM" situation, and this was a gen with u turn, then it could work. Scyther is fast and hard hitting. Many of us might be tempted to just tank a hit and try to retaliate with a fire or flying move. But bam- the scyther switches to a kakuna that takes the hit for it. Then the kakuna does a poison sting, poisoning your one good typed pokemon, and they weapon you down with stall tactics until the scyther comes back to finish you off.
Not sure if I remember correctly, but isn't that literally what happens in Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver?
I love that you use actual cartridges with your challenges
been watching since the first minimum battles video and I’m amazed that you make things interesting every time, I can’t wait to finish this one!
We've had the great droughts between his bursts of uploads but this really seems promising for the future. He has an editor editing his videos for him, he has a long streak of interesting and diverse challenge runs with of course, his trademarked Gen1 runs. And he doesn't seem burned out at all, his commentary is full of vigor.
This is the 2nd golden age of Jrose content and I'm grateful for that.
I'm so happy with how many videos you've been making!
Metronome is my absolute favorite move in all of pokemon just because of how random it can be. If it doesn't already, they need to update it to be able to use moves from every single generation as long as it's not a signature, z-move, or dynamax/gigantamax only move
Pure chaos is absolutely amazing, so an updated metronome would be the absolute best move ever
Metronome battles were a thing in gens 6 and 7. Is that not a thing in sword and shield?
Nothing like a snorlax using acrobatics somehow or a clefairy using judgment.
I think gen 7 is the best because with normalium Z you basically use the Z version of whatever moves it calls
Nah, it absolutely should be able to use signature moves. It's so rare anyways. The others I agree with. It can already copy some exclusive moves as it is.
@@gamermanzeake her? Mew is genderless
@@gamermanzeake plants are actually both genders. Or have both sex organs, female and male.
Now wonders where the move 'Egg Bomb' came from.
Honestly? I spend an unhealthy amount of time watching your videos.
I've had a pretty rotten last two months and these videos have almost been a tonic, so thank you.
And a fourth try victory for bruno.
Man, bruno's redemption story has been amazing.
Even when he isn't technically badge boost glitching he still finds a strategy to raise his stats. Bravo!
Thank you for all your videos!! I have been a fan for years! Glad you are back on a weekly basis!!
I remember doing something similar with Aipom in a Gold Nuzlocke (Called Mandy). Gave her Return, Shadow Ball, Cut and Thief. She was surprisingly strong and bulky for a Pokemon that didn’t have a ton of base stats. But she went all the way to the Elite 4 and to Lance. I got into trouble with Dragonite, and thought the best thing was to let Aipom go out in a blaze of glory by taking on the Champion’s ace Pokemon, chipping it down for Typhlosion, Tentacruel or Espeon to get the revenge kill. Hit it with a Return which does lots of damage and it attacks with Outrage…AND SURVIVED!! I was screaming the place down with shock that Aipom took a non-defuffed Dragonite and not only lived, but defeated it too. I have no idea how it happened, and quite frankly I don’t want to know. But Aipom bringing down a pseudo legendary was honestly one of the best moments I’ve had as a Pokemon fan.
Great vid as always jrose. Really surprised how well Togepi did, especially since I feel like baby Pokémon were designed to be even weaker than normal stage 1 Pokémon!
I just finished your nuzlocke video and now I see this, what a great night for some JRose content!
Jrose, you are truly one of the greatest content creators of all times. I watch each video a minimum of 2 times and I can't wait to see what all else comes from this channel.
Bruno has almost as many wins in this challenge as the entire red/blue solo series
I randomly found this video on my feed and it just makes me so happy that people still make content on the second gen pokemon games
watching these are crazy for me. not only the memories this shit brings back but how the hell are you still doing these??? the content literally doesnt get old at all
Gen 2 was terrible and so are you
The content never gets old just like how starting over a new Pokemon game game never game never gets old.
Every new game is a the start of a new adventure, full of possibilities.
Since you're banking for winning with 5turn rollout anyway, why not use Safeguard to prevent Sleep for 5 turns and use a Berry or an item to increase your attacking power or accuracy? Since the most dangerous part is Haunter using Rollout 1 and Curse ticking 25%, an ordinary Berry could have very well saved you
He has an odd number of health so no matter what, he gets 5 turns of curse before he dies. A berry heals for 10 hp, which is nowhere near the 21 health he would need to survive a 6th tick of curse.
Love to see another video! I enjoy watching every one you’re putting out! Would love to see a Red/Blue Pinsir run! My favourite gen 1 and some decent stats for hopefully a good run!
Love watching these challenge runs. Making me want to go back and play games I haven't touched in over a decade!
Love the Jhoto content lately, you've been on a tear lately with the content!
This was an egg-cellent run! 🍳🥚
Wow pleasantly surprised by Togepi! Always love the videos, hope you're having a blast making them :)
Got to see the first bit of the run live; just wish I'd been able to stay awake to watch the whole thing!
It seems like there are simply too many mandatory battles. That, combined with Togepi's level-up group is what caused the major 'issues.' Still, it's strange that Togepi was doing so much damage. Like, in your Rattata run, it wasn't doing much at all by the Elite Four. I don't know. It just felt like Togepi was doing too much damage for its stats. Then again, these Pokemon are 1/2 to 2/3s your level and you are 3 shotting them. So, I dunno...
It's all from Return with SameTypeAttackBonus.
Return has 102 base power + STAB + Plain badge adding another +10%. It's a 167 base power move, insanely strong
Jrose my man, back with another absolute banger. Thank you for the endlessly fun videos and your cool personality. ^-^ Hope you're well!
I thought about doing this run but I learned it is such a nightmare to grind a metronome run of this so I kinda stopped at ecruteak
I did learn about memento being a Gen 2 move that's fun to reset
If you're looking for a more balanced and flexible gen 2 check out Crystal Clear. Would love to see you do a run on there. Great vid as always.
i have just started a play of that, i am loving it so far, nice to start with Houndour instead of waiting till beyond the halfway point, seriously, what the f**k was with adding NEW pokeomon, into the PREVIOUIS region?
they clearly thought it was fine cos HG/SS KEPT IT!
"We have a *NICE* amount of HP left" -- Trust me JRose, I noticed that too!
> Togepi used Self-destruct!
Like an egg in a microwave.
I get so excited after I see you upload jrose, I gasped and went TOGEPI then clicked the video so fast 🤣🤣🤣
2:52 Funny story about that. In one fangame, there's a virtual Johto League you can play through using premade teams. The devs improved all of the Leaders' teams: Bugsy does indeed have Ariados, Ledian and Scyther, Morty actually has a *Mismagius*, Jasmine has a team of five including a Scizor, and so on. It's cool.
I wondered why you went for headbutt instead of double edge on poliwrath that one time. My only thought was Dynamic punch is going to ohko you either way lol
Chuck got my Typhlosion with surf. He had swept the rest of my poorly trained team so I sent Togepi last, ready to accept my fate. Chuck's move misses, I go metronome and boom hyper beam and I win.
Togepi goes up a bunch of levels and it evolves. One of the only battles I remember from my childhood lol
Return is so powerful in-game as it hits all but 3 types normally plus over 100 attack stat
Bruh why did i get an hour long ad. It had the option to skip after 5 but wtf
Metronome is just hilarious. It's like during the show Metalocalypse when the band gets some mail. Nathan Explosion is going through the mail and says "Naked lady fan mail. Could be awesome, could be horrible." Metronome really is the same. Could be awesome, could be horrible. But that's part of the fun.
This run was egg-cellent! Apparently Togepi is eggs-tra good. It egg-ceeded my eggs-pectations.
.. I'm shocked for just how well Togepi did, but I guess it makes some sense considering just how versatile it's learnset can be, and partially because of how wonky Johto can be in terms of Levels.
Would love to see a redo of this in gen 3 - I feel like Togepi would likely struggle in Emerald a bit more than FR/LG due to Brawly, Norman, Tate/Liza and hell, maybe even some of the E4 like Phoebe.
Yeah any Pokémon with Return and Rollout easily beats this game. Also he was pretty overleveled the whole time.
Bruno Two-no, Rival Five-al... what's next, Giovanni Three-o-vanni?
tOgePi. You can't spell Togepi without OP!
I'm excited to see Togepi go Super Saiyan and wreck Gen 2. LET'S DO IT!
have you ever considered trying out "crystal clear"? its a romhack of crystal that lets you start in any town (johto OR kanto), has level scaling gyms and gym rematches, trainers levels scale (wild pokemons do NOT), character customization, and even a built in nuzlocke mode if you felt inclined.
tms arent infinite use, but theyre all still renewable (you have access to more tms at the dept stores as you get more badges) and theres a move relearner.
theres also 3 tutors: one for kanto only tm moves (so any gen 1 mons can still learn their gen 1 tm moves), one for event-exclusive moves, and one known as the "battle tutor," which is basically "hey why doesnt X learn Y? here i made it so X can learn Y :)"
oh and ofc all 251 mons are catchable. theres even a "tradeback guy" in the dept store who will let you do trade evos.
i could go on and on and still not mention all the added features QoL stuff. but. yeah. id highly recommend taking a look!
Early game metronome actually looks really fun
you actually got a standing ovation from me in front of my computer screen for this last battle! damn, that was well done! bravo, mr. jrose!
GSC always feels like they originally intended the Elite Four to be challenged after having ALL SIXTEEN badges, given the weird experience curve. It would explain a bit about the Kanto gym levels and the difficulty in grinding to be on par with the Elite Four after just Johto.
Honestly an elite 4 Round 2 ala FRLG would’ve made a ton of sense.
Crystal Clear fixes that.
@@ShinyTillDawn I LOVED Crystal Clear
love the openness
Fun fact: in the G/S beta, Togepi was evidently intended to be a Legendary, appearing at the end of the Pokédex next to Ho-Oh with whom it shared a base stat total of 550.
This is a hood classic
Lance probably water gunned his pants when he saw a Togepi tank 3 Hyper Beams from a Dragonite..
Against Bugsy you maybe should have used Swift for last attack to guarantee killing the Scyther. Great vídeo as always!
Fun fact: in a nuzlocke with level caps, you do the ice gym before the Steel gym.
I was literally actively looking for a good togepi run to watch like two days ago, out of what I found by far most exciting no disrespect to others, please do Togekiss in the future, I wanna see how good Serene Grace could be!?! (If you want anyhow :'> )
Also i noticed dragon fang in your inventory probably to boost hidden power dragon, however the item that does that in this game is the dragon scale despite what the text says. Its a gen 2 bug, dragon fang only works in stadium 2.
oh yee I forgot about that
I love the meme-ing on Surge in this series. Has he been relegated to Cabin Boy Surge yet??
The Pokemon randomizer I use allows you to increase the levels of all the trainers by up to 50% (so a level 40 Pokemon becomes level 60). It might be fun to try that on a gsc game and use like Mewtwo or something.
That subscribe animation is pretty frigging cool subtle, yet noticeable and also tasteful... well done.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! I friggin love Togepi! Thank you for this :D I’m really enjoying these
I am not surprised you completed this, I am surprised just how well Togepi did though, nice video
Love this run. The first time I beat the elite 4 on crystal as a kid was because my last pokemon in my party, a level 9 Togepi, managed to get a damaging move with metronome on Lance's last Dragonite while he was recharging his hyperbeam. This was after killing my Feraligatr which had left him with what must have been 1 hp.
This was way too entertaining 😂. I'm an old school gamer so gen 1 and 2 are very nostalgic for me. Now do a Missingno in the impossible series already! Lol
The RNG Gods have blessed our scrambled egg boi on this day
I busted out laughing when togepi used self destruct lol
The sprites in this gen were on point
Is that Sunsoft Batman music during the Will battle?
Kind of a shame you got rid of metronome so early, would have been fun to see it being used for longer
Jrose11 likes consistency.
The anime order for the Kanto Gyms was a nice touch, excellent vid once again dude.
Another great run ;)
Can't wait for the scyther vs pinser rivalry to be settled 👌
Let's go team scyther 👌
Keep up the great work 😁
(33:38) Heh, Civilian Surge. Is it even possible to demote him any further?
(44:44) Huh, Detect? Why not Protect instead? It has 10 PP instead of 5, and is buyable at Celadon, and nearly every Pokémon can learn it. Meanwhile, Detect is not a TM that you can obtain again, has fewer PP, and not every Pokémon can learn it.
Jrose:
No one: "Jrose, I'm super sus of your RNG."
Legit if people question your integrity after *ALL* the challenges you've done, all the time you've wasted on many Magikarp runs, the time you're *going* to probably waste on Weedle, just, man.
The sheer comedy of a rotund cow and a baby bird rolling around and failing to hit each other
This says less about togepi and more about gsc, tbh. Would love to see more adv runs, where Pokémon actually get moves
I remember the first nuzlocke I ever did.
Togepi used metronome.
Metronome became explosion.
Togepi used explosion.
Togepi feinted.
I'll be honest.
Was expecting two things from this run.
1- Keeping Metronome the entire run.
2- Wondering how long before Metronome inevitably triggered Selfdestruct/Explosion.
While I was disappointed with the former, I was more than pleased with the latter!
Nevertheless, this was a very entertaining run. One of the best for sure. The hype was justified.
Do you think you'll be doing other baby runs? A Toxel run in Sw/Sh or S/V would be super-fun to watch! 🙂
how is something OP if all u do is grind levels before u can defeat something?