Hey everyone, I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for watching my video and for taking the time to hear my story. It's not easy to admit when we've made a mistake, but I believe that being honest and relatable is the best way to help others. If even one person learns from my experience and avoids making the same mistake, then sharing my story was worth it. So please, take this as a cautionary tale and remember to always prioritise safety on the road. Thank you again for your support, and ride safe out there.
I got done speeding about 8 months ago and lost my license got suspended for a year and a half so i have finally hit half way point, was getting followed by a helicopter unknowingly then I did a 250km/h run In a 100km/h zone, 10 minutes later had the highway patrol knock on my door and impound my bike and serve me with a court summons
I got caught doing 53 mph outside Buckingham Palace on Constitutional Hill (then a 30mph road). I also got 6 points and a massive fine (a bit more than yours!). Had to ride extra carefully for 3 years but a big relief when they expired.
@@TheHabz did you confess or what? I lost the police in a chase but they couldn’t prove it was me so charges dropped. I’m in the U.K. though. America is a bit more totalitarian…..
The problem with speed enforcement in the UK is how dispassionate the police are in this day and age. I miss the days where the police used to take in the totality of the circumstances before deciding to nick you. For example in the mid 80’s I was caught doing 114 in a 70 on an RD400E. The officer said “I saw you look over your shoulder, and there was no traffic and you took off.” He let me off, what a relief. Today I’d probably be in prison when a violent offender would get a slap on the wrist. I’m glad I don’t live in the UK anymore.
The coppers were often bikers and would give you a bollocking rather than points unless you were doing something really stupid. Totally different times now.
Sadly the old bill deal with the aftermath of reckless speeders like this mug Most motorcycle accidents are single vehicle on country roads and yes speeding They have to knock on your loved ones door and give that awful news you lot getting this yet
Banned twice for doubling the speed limit on a motorway, the second ban was a full retest. I moved to Gibraltar, took all my retests there, and now have a Gib license. Every time I get a speeding ticket I fill out the forms with my Gibraltar address and then never hear anything more about it.
I've represented myself in court twice now for being naughty on bikes (twice in over 20 years riding). I'd recommend it, both my cases were really well received by the judges and getting the chance to honestly hold my hands up, accept full accountability and negotiate my punishment directly with the law... was seen as a breath of fresh air by the procurator fiscal and I got very light and fair penalty both times. Lawyers are utter bullshit merchants and I wouldn't trust one to represent me. The judge was amused at that one. Weaseling your way out of a situation with a lawyer is a waste of money and an insult to a judge's intelligence. They appreciated the way I did it and my cop mates pissed themself at how lightly I was punished and how small my fines were!
I did the same years ago. Got a small fine when it could have been worse. The courts probably see lots of people trying to defend the impossible. Not acting like that when you are guilty can result in a bettter outcome.
I got caught doing just over 90mph on a 60mph road just after lockdown ended. I was on a Ninja1000 and literally just gave it a handful to overtake a car doing 50mph. The police pulled me over and I was told I would receive a court summons. I received a letter from the court but due to covid they were trying to deal with things out of court as much as possible and offered me 3 points and £100 fixed penalty. I was very lucky.
Same thing here ! I was on way home on my Monster 1200R after visiting my Ma for a chat through the window of her care home 😢 On the way back I passed an old red Corsa on the back road . Stopped at my mates wee workshop in the village , and a female and male cop approached me . The guy said “ Are you ok?” I said yea fine why ? He said I’d passed them rather quickly on the brow of the road and was going a bit too fast ! I told him about my visit , and politely pointed out that my heads probably 3ft above his so I can see further ahead . He put his hand on my shoulder and said “ I can see you’re upset , but just take it easy on the bike pal “ Not all cops are heartless 👍
Respect you for not complaining or making excuses. I've known so many guys over the years get points and bans then whine about it as if it was someone else's fault. I got pulled for speeding as well during the shutdown but I was classed as an essential worker and was coming back from work, It was also only a patrol car so no camera or I don't think they'd have had any choice but the Cops that pulled me were good as gold,not least when they knew where I was coming from,just told me to keep an eye on my speed and let me go, that was around 50 in a 30 so could have been serious.
I had a similar thing happen to me. I was working through lockdown in the city of London, and I commute on my bike 14 miles to work every day. I got caught down 38mph in 20mph zone, (Which used to be a 30mph zone). I haven't had any points on my licence since 1997. The cop that caught me with a speed gun hiding behind a tree, was determined to prosecute me for it, even though there was nothing on the road. I ended up getting 5 points and a £350 fine. I regularly see police vehicles speeding in these zones while not in a emergency. Seems like there's one rule for us and another for them?
The 20mph zones are a pisstake going in and out of the square mile. If the roads aren't congested to the point of barely walking pace, nobody does 20mph.
I got pulled years ago for 105 in a 60 on a demonstrator Ducati 848. Filmed by an unmarked car and stopped by uniformed bikers. First question: Is this your vehicle sir? Me: No……. They were decent lads and I was soon on my way. Went to court suited and booted which must have been a pleasant surprise for the magistrates given the state of some of the scrotes in the waiting area. And the end of the copper’s statement it read that I had been polite and courteous throughout. 1 month ban and 330 quid fine. Bike insurers didn’t care, girl on the phone said I was quite restrained only doing 105 on a new 848.
Nice of you to be open and honest about it, I think many have done 93 in a 60 zone at some point especially when a flick of the wrist on most super naked a now will get you from 60 to 93 in seconds. I was a tear away when I was younger getting up to 9 points then I got another 3, I won’t go into how I got away with not getting those last 3 points 😂 but now at 53 years old I try to stick to the limits, and it’s hard to speed now as lots of average speed cameras springing up in Lancashire.
Did anyone suffer a loss when you were speeding through time ? NO. Did anyone complain you were speeding through time? NO, Was anyone harmed when you were speeding through time? NO. Was anyone adversely effected by you speeding through time ? Still NO? Was there a victim when you were speeding through time ? NO. How can speeding be a crime with no victim? You are the victim of law that punishes victimless crimes. Of course had they’re been a real victim the story would be different but the fact is there was no victim.
I got caught speeding some years back and attended a speed awareness course run by two coppers. I was taken by the thinking and thought processes they were taught as police drivers that I decided to do an advanced driving course (IAM). Got so much enjoyment and engagement in my driving without having to speed excessively that I did my advanced riding course too. I enjoy my riding now more than ever, without those ‘oh shit’ moments or worries about a brown envelope arriving in the post. At least no where near as often😂
So I got done at 127 mph on the M69. I had actually been up to 169mph . Not great but there you go . 9.month ban £890 fine. I ignored the ban. Never got stopped while still riding. That was 6 years ago.
Wheelied my H2 past an unmarked traffic car in 2017. I ate some serious humble pie and ended up being offered a driving course so took that for the win. Little did the policeman know 2 min earlier I was maxed out on the rev limiter in top gear( had the ecu flashed) Man that bike could shift. Sold it shortly afterwards as I knew it was only a matter of time till I got properly caught. Love my current bike Z H2,, hasn't got the top end of the original but enough to keep an old duffer like me happy! Great channel, enjoying the Blackbird resto, I had a ZX12R and a Busa back in the day and am lucky enough to have a Gen 2 ZZR 1400 tucked away for the odd mad flat out in top rip once or twice a year!
Thats the Problem with a Rocket between your legs. You are going always to fast to have fun. Especially with superbikes where the first gear easily goes up to 80mph
So glad Rye you were able to get through the legals without too much trouble.. and and still be able to create solid content for your hungry subs on an ever growing channel. Seriously, thank you. Also loving the mix up of a build video here, a review there and an update thrown in every once in a while to keep us informed. Nice Rye, keep up the superb work👏
Thought you had to be going over 100 for a court summons? If anything I thought that was a bit harsh. About 50% over limit. Bit like 45 in a 30. Easily done if overtaking.
Thanks for sharing, bud. Story from over here in Switzerland, couple of years back. There were road works between our local town and Berne, bit like a B road. Normal speed limit is set at 60kph and due to said road works, it was reduced to 30kph. I went through on a Saturday afternoon (of course, no work being done, road open), doing 45kph (shock, horror, 28mph) and was caught by a mobile radar. Because it was 15kph over the limit within an urban area, the fine was 650CHF + about 250CHF admin fees (about £810 altogether). I could either pay or go to jail for 3 days 😟. There are no points over here and they take speeding very seriously. It's almost a capital offence...
Defo , 90 mph isn’t even fast , even if you sit at 70 mph it’s still slow,! I think the speed limit should be 130 mph ! I bet you no one would sit on the motorway at 130 mph , I reckon most people would do 70/90 mph 99% of the time!
We live in a society where we're scared too, and more disturbingly, not allowed to have any fun. The speed limits were set at a time before driver aids; better road surfaces, tyres etc. I think they should be revised. I'd like to see a national motorway limit of 125mph, I think that's plenty. The police really should focus their efforts on solving crime and not simply using the motorist as a cash cow.
And unfortunately, it's only gonna get worse from here on in. We need to get the system overturned, and go back to being reasonable, "live and let live", people.
Charlotte grieff. Absolutely. The old bill always say that "speed kill" but this is rubbish. Its all a conspiracy to raise money and make sure that the rich get richer and the porr get poorer. I was reading the other day that a county in America made all the traffic department rudundant and following this the amount of motorists being caught for speeding fell significantly. It just goes to show that if you leave people alone they start to take responsibility for their own actions. The UK has got it all wrong when they keep trying to protect people from harm and keep people safe.
Owned my R6 for ten months and have clocked up nearly 6000 miles but putting it up for sale because I,m nuts on it. As soon as the tires are warm, I'm flat out everywhere and so far been lucky. 172mph the other week....it's got to go now !
Thought you’d got nicked on the R! What a relief! Rozzers were hiding on my local loop today in its ridiculous 50mph. Road is straight and should be a 60mph but tax is tax I guess 😮
Great video mate. That’s crazy that your insurance didn’t go up. Do you think there’s a possibility that you could go full time on UA-cam one day or will you just keep it as a hobby and side hustle?
Having a Solicitor to defend you shows the Judge that you're showing respect to the Court. Defending yourself without a Solicitor can end very badly. Glad to see it turned out OK
Unfortunately we’ve all been there. Getting caught speeding for more than a couple of mph over the limit is very stressful until the punishment is final; the 12 months of waiting and uncertainty is far worse than the actual points or ban. Out of interest, how much did the solicitor cost?
Thank you for sharing this with everyone. I am in a similar situation right now with 6 points on my licence. What insurance company did you use as you have mentioned it hasn't went up for you? Thank you in advance for your answer
@@BikesofRye I got away with doing a speed awareness course as it was "minor speeding". Really annoying as I remember the day vividly, I just blipped the throttle gently in boredom and the copper must have just been waiting for me to do something stupid as it was a brief moment. I'm grateful I have not been caught in the act of a spirited ride on B-Roads though as I don't think I would have got off as lightly. Nowadays I just go and track my bikes and get my speed out there, way more fun and makes riding fast on roads a bit less inticing 😎.
Same here, I went by a bush the other day and there was 3 coppers hiding in there, one was smoking a fag while on duty. I couldnt believe my own eyes. It was a rhodedendron.
Many years ago I got stopped for 99.7 in a 60 limit, I knew my zxr 750 speedo was accurate as it was indicating exactly 100, the guy I was riding with had a brother who is a solicitor, he wrote me the most grovelling letter ever, I got 3 points and £100 fine, I was expecting a ban as not long previously it had been publicised that any more than 30 over the limit would be a ban. Currently have a clean licence.
Such an honest and down to earth video by a bike lover like myself. I have subscribed a while back. I have a number of comments to add: I have been driving/riding bikes since 1979 (yes I am not a young man), and in that time have had 3 speeding offences (all in a car though). However, it is almost impossible on today's roads to keep track of speed limits (they go up and down so much), and I also like to keep an eye on the road, NOT the speedometer. I do, yes I do, try to keep to speed limits, but it is easier said than done when on the wrong side of the road overtaking, especially on a bike (I ride a BMWR1250R). If I am over the limit after the overtake, I slow down, I will not share what speeds I have been at, but like your bike, my bike can pull 100 mph very quickly, it has so much torque. One other point, I ride in sport (dynamic) mode all the time, even in the wet. The only big thing I notice is I do not have to turn the throttle so much, which is kind on the the wrist. Once you know your bike, as I am sure you do, you use the throttle responsibly, even in the wet, I do not have issues. A final point, is I have never comes to terms with everything the TFT offers, however I am due a service (booked in next week), 1500 miles under the 6000 miles, but 3 weeks over a year. The TFT is rendered useless by a 'big service due ' screen', which will not respond to input, and I have searched the internet how to turn it off. Pardon my french, but it really pisses me off. PS. Your blackbird project is an inspiration. PPS. One final point to test the patience. Lockdown was evil for so many like yourself. When lone dog walkers or joggers or riders were penalised by the police it was an easy catch, and I never saw them as a threat, but when big demonstrations (such as BLM, and I am not against BLM), which were a brewery for the virus, went unchecked, the bigotry was nauseating. You were not a threat to anyone being out alone on your bike.
I understand your opinion that you are not a threat to anyone while out there riding by yourself, but what if you came off the bike?. Then you have the Police, the Ambulance staff, the people in the Emergency department and the ward (if you are admitted), the Radiographers and surgical team if you need an operation etc. While we have put all of this behind us now, it still doesn't hurt to think of how many people can be effected by your own actions, and of course the effect this could have on the people who love and care about you. I came off my bike and spent time in hospital and TBH the hardest part was having my 5 year old son coming in to visit and wanting to know when I was coming home, it was absolutely heartbreaking. Stay safe.
@@onecookieboy that’s why they take £1100 out of my wages every month and council tax so it’s not free , we pay for the services so I say go out on your bike and be free , if you crash you crash that’s the risk that’s life , enjoy,ride safe 👍🏾
@@pcarts232 I don't know if you have kids, perhaps not, but one day you might and believe me when I say that changes everything, bikes are still fun and a great escape when you need it, but I have found that I have slowed down a lot.
Fair play Rye! You're only human like the rest of us! I think not getting a ban was a blessing as when I was qualifying customers for motorcycle test rides, the question was always - have you obtained more than 6 points in the last 3 years or a ban in the last 5. Obvs every motorcycle showroom test ride insurance is different but at least you could have said... I've not had MORE than 6 points in the last 3 years and be on your merry way on the test ride :D
Thanks for the honest upload, I thought the insurance company would have gone to town on you and not brought the vasoline! This shows it's not necessarily the end of world if you get caught speeding, which is so easy these days.
That’s a really great outcome mate. I’m happy for you. Now I’ve spent a lot of time on the previous gen 1 S1000r and this is exactly why I believe that 1000cc in-line 4’s are pointless on the road. There’s torque but it’s not nearly as exciting as the HP at the top and power delivery is so linear. This is also why I got rid of my T V4 Factory 1100 as it was just to efficiently fast and I really couldn’t get my kicks. The bike got to triple figures far too quickly with hardly any time on the throttle. Traded it in for a Superduke gen 2 and to me it’s riding nirvana. Ferocious torque as soon as you open the throttle and you aren’t chasing that screaming HP. It allows me to have the most fun and keep it semi-sensible.
We've all been there bud. I was caught doing more than double the speed limit twice, luckily we don't have the point system. But I did go to court & paid a heavy fine.
Got caught twice in the first 2 years of driving , 6 points and took my license off me, eventually done my test again and since then I have also got my bike license , not proud of it but the way I look at it , it taught me a very good lesson! Love the vids 👍
@BikesofRye Just discovered your channel and I'm really enjoying the vids. This one struck a chord with me as it's so similar to me and my brother getting done about 20 odd years ago. We got done for 100.9mph in a 60mph limit. There was not a thing on the road and we were in the middle of nowhere. Like you, I didn't try and wriggle out of it or make excuses; I was on my relatively new R6, I was young (and daft) and just wanted to open it up, but there was a copper in an unmarked car hiding up a dirt track and, well, he got us. It was part of a targeted programme by the police to catch speeding bikers. We had go to court on different days and we both represented ourselves (a solicitor even said it was a waste of money to pay for representation). I got a 2 month ban and £300 fine (this was in 2000 remember) and my brother got 6 points and a £300 fine. So what did I learn from it? A few things: 1) don't ride like dick or be prepared to take a punishment, 2) the law isn't consistent, we got done by the same cop for the same offence at the same time but got different punishments, 3) and this is the one that sticks in my throat, when I watch things like Traffic Cops on the TV I consistently see people riding/driving with no licence, no insurance, while disqualified etc etc who get less of a penalty in 2024 than we got is 2000. Speed is regarded as evil, regardless of whether it was done safely, and is the main 'crime' that most law abiding normal people will get done for. So be careful!!!
for me its the two weeks you have to wait after you think you got caught speeding that kills me the whole did I didnt I, waiting for the letter of doom. I got lucky a while ago I was following an audi on my bike and we both went past a camera pointing at us but I think he got clobbered as his car was shielding me and the bike from the radar gun. lesson learned :)
I had a speeding conviction in 2014 for doing 62mph on a section of the A414 in Essex by Onger, it has a zebra crossing where the speed limit drops from 60mph to 30mph for about half a mile. And the Police were monitoring speeds at the start of that section. I had checked my speed as I saw the police officer, and thought I was ok! Ended up with a probable ban as double the speed limit is automatic ban, where 50-60mph is ban or points at Magistrate discretion. I represented myself and put forward a case of exceptional hardship as I was the main earner for my family with children at Senior school. The Magistrate accepted my plea and got 6 points and £300 fine
Just got my fine and points for getting caught at 89 in a 60 zone, £671 and 5 points. What surprised me was the fine for speeding was £415 & £90 court fees but adding on £166 to top up the victims of crime fund was taking the piss, I guess they have to find ways of topping it up but adding it to a speeding fine!
Don't apologise for speeding mate.. at some point, we all do it. Saying that there's worse crimes out there. Cops used to have some degree of tolerance... now it's revenue collecting ££££ Got caught on the Blackbird at 150mph a few years back. 3 months disqualification ...£300 Fine... its all stories for the bike camping trips though😂🏍. Stay safe dude.
Or speeding is killing more bikers than ever maybe and if there was no enforcement everyone would take the piss. I agree with the poxy 4mph over a limit tickets but big speeds they should slap people
Steviejinx12 A few years back I was in a similar situation. I was on the pedal cycle going down a steep hill and pedaling like a mad man. I obvious has no speedo on the bike but I must have been doing at least 32 mph. I was hanging on for crim death and did not see a Police officer on my left untill I was almost past him. For the next 2 months I was shitin myself I may get in trouble. I can tell you I learnt my lesson good and proper, since the incident I have not pedalled while going down hill. Its just not worth the risk
The fact is we will always brake the speed limits , from time to time, knowingly or not, it's just a case of if you get caught or not, just be sensible and safe.
Got followed by an unmarked Golf R during 2020 lockdown on my old bike Gsxr600 Srad. Didnt realise it was an unmarked car as they were following real close, just thought it was some boy racer. Dropped it into 2nd gear and took off, was doing 100mph in a 50, when I saw the blue lights come on in the grilles. Long story short, I got 6 points and £400 fine.
Thanks for the video, it comes at just the right time fof me, as I was caught yesterday for an average of 89 in a 60, riding down a road with zero traffic in excellent road conditions and excellent visibility apart from my own eyes not spotting the unmarked bike half a mile behind me timing me over a mile distance, i don't know if I'll go to court or not but I'm hoping I get a reasonable outcome like you did 🤞
Thanks for sharing. Reminds me of me in the nineties on a Fireblade. Don’t be embarrassed. The law was an arse then and it’s worse today. You were right about the logic of employing a solicitor. They are parasites. The court prefers tie wearing apologetic victims when it comes to handing out punishment, without a flash Gucci suit wearing brief. That was my experience anyway. I’m still riding today, and if safe I don’t give a flying f#ck about breaking the speed limit. It’s what bikes are for 😁
Warren4 The same thing happened to me. In the 80s I had a Honda 250 super dream. I drilled some holes in the exhaust which made it sound and perform like a dragster. I got caught by old bill who clocked me at 185mph. They tailed me using the Police helicopter as this was the only thing fast enough to keep up. I was summond before a court and due to a tecnicality got off with the speeding but the fu**ers done me because the horn on my bike had a loose connection. I suppose we all have to live and learn
Over here in NSW 30 km/h over is a 3 months suspension instantly and I think 40 km/h is 6 months instant suspension. Of course that's only like 20mph. Very draconian. About ten years ago I lost my licence twice that way - particularly because they dropped the speed limit on my favourite ride by 20 km/h and made it like crawl - so if you rode at 10 km/h over the old speed limit that's 30 km/h over... At that point I got sick of walking to work and it seriously inconvenienced people so I sold my VFR750F and BMW K1300s, cried... (I'll admit it - they were like my children) and didn't own a bike again until I retired which was early at the age of 47. I totally sympathise mate although you are lucky you got off lightly except for the legal costs, anxiousness and hassle of course. All the best Ryan - glad to be your friend mate - even if I live so far away.
Just watch out with posting forward facing footage with your speedo visible. I've resorted to blurring out any footage on my videos that I upload because there have been cases where chaps have been nabbed by using their footage posted onto social media. Thankfully where I stay, the local Leo's are still far behind everyone else, until one day they are not. 😅
88 in a 60 doing one brief overtake, nabbed by a dirty parked camera van, 8 points, £600 fine. No difference to insurance fortunately. Rode like a fanny for 3 years, clean again now 👍
That's awesome that you only got the 6 points. A ban is guaranteed to put your insurance up so that's a good outcome I'd say. Know people who have got 6 points for 55 in a 40
I would class that as a right result fella. I don't speed in 30/40's. That's where the heavy fines and punishments are apart from all the dangers. I did ride all through lockdown as I was a key worker. I miss it so much!!!!!!!
I got caught on the M1 on lockdown at 117mph on my motorcycle on a 70mph got a solicitor to come with me. Never had any driving offences got a 21 day ban and 500£ fine with 0points is what I wanted because I had my car driving license for less than 2yrs and 6point would lose it. Always different ending with traffic offences weird
I have gotten pulled over and got a ticket. I felt so violated because it was just a second around an open curve just so I could feel the curve. with my 2001 Honda Magna 120 KM in an 80 km Zone
simple lesson i got from being caught speeding was dont fu***** speed in areas your dont know well ! and try your best to look out for cameras or slow down for blind bends that could potentially have cameras up them
about 10 years ago i had 6 points for mobile phone and speeding, didn't tell the insurance. couple of years later i renewed van and go compared it with and without offence codes, was over £100 cheaper with the offences on, couple of months later did the same with the car and again it was over £100 cheaper. even the insurance company couldn't understand it but honoured it
I got 6 points for checking a text while at a traffic light, my experience however was very different to yours, I couldn't get insurance for less than £5000 for my streetfighter and my van insurance went up by 40%
Have the y shirt, the lesson is just don’t exceed the speed limit and you won’t get caught, book a track day or three, it’s way more fun and you can test your confidence over your ability to the full
Just for info, a Ban doesn't wipe the points off your licence, You can recieve a ban AND points for the speed you were recorded at. You were very lucky.............this time. Ride safe
Great video and good you could you faced upto the problem. Its quite obviius where the problem is, its the bike, its far to fast for you. Have you considererd selling it and buying a bike that its much harder to speed on. How about a Honda cub C50. They have very low power and are very suitable for folks that have genuine difficulty riding within the speed limit. They are also quite a sporty looking machine so are the perfect match for an owner who is concerned about image and wants to project himself as sporty. Thanks for posting Andy
I own a street triple rs 2023 model which is great fun. Almost as much fun is my Aston Martin DB11 which I have recently been caught speeding (officially clocked at 104mph), on an empty dual carriage way in bright weather conditions. In 2021 received 3 points for 80 and 2022 caught at 80 obtaining another 3 points, both occasions on empty motorways in good conditions. Unfortunately I think I’ll receive a ban but intend to attend the inevitable court appearance with grovelling apologies and hope for leniency with a minimal ban period. Anyone else had similar totting up issues and what did you experience punishment wise? 🤦🏻♂️
My mate got done on his GSXR 750 in 2000 he was doing 113 in a 60, he lost his license for a month and got a £600 fine. It was on his way to a weekly biker meet and gas the fastest one of 30 odd lads pulled that night!
Hahaha. Yes, I remember it well. Many years ago I got pulled doing 92 in a 60…in a car. Two week ban which I took as holiday from work, luckily. A few years back got snapped at 58 in a 50 on the bike and was again lucky, Speed Awareness Course. We all do stupid things on the road from time to time but,… just imagine some old fart pulling out in front of you. There are so many poor drivers/riders on the roads now and although there’s nothing to beat being a hooligan anyone riding a bike has to be so aware.
the only thing you can do when banged to rights is admit it, say you are sorry, and accept your punishment quietly. I've been in court 3 times for motoring offences (none for 30 years though lol). unless you are really brewstered you should realise you are going to get done and can't do anything about it, so all arguing and excuses are going to do is antagonise them, they have heard it all a million times before, so unless you have a real need, dont waste money on a solicitor, it won't do you any good at all. GL
S1000R looking mint👌🏻 How’s that new Puig smoke screen been so far? Looks pretty good! I bet it looks even better in person? Does it deflect the wind over your helmet?
I have a question I have a 2022 Triumph triple RS. Which I am thinking of getting rid of for a BMW S 1000 R or a Ducati street fighter V2 what are your thoughts
Just watched your post ,and thought I would mention that while the points are valid for 3 years ,as you stated they stay on your license for 4 ,but a lot of insurers state they count them for 5 so just check with your insurers.
Yes, I agree this is the case. It’s not the initial fine that gets you but, repeated increased premiums times 5. It’s like the law hands you over to the insurers and they rub their hands.
The letter has not come yet but it’s in the post 💯 wasn’t going crazy but well over the 50mph at least 80 😮pesky vans, did it effect your riding after ?
Just finished my 2nd totting up ban, London riding and mostly 40 in 30s. 3 points x 4, 6 month ban each time. Bit harsh sometimes as was a courier, didn’t have the 2k the solicítese wanted for a exceptional hardship case that they may not win anyway
I know it's an old video but I got caught speeding on my Suzuki 750F in the early 90's at well over a ton, I were banned for 28 days can't remember how much the fine were I think £150 ish, then almost a month to the day later my mate got caught speeding at 125mph on a GPZ 600 as he were on his way to my place & he managed a lesser ban of 3 weeks but had a more expensive fine.
Normally you'll got court if you do double the speed limit. Why did it go to court? Normally the police will offer X points and a fine, unless you wanted to go to court?
I got caught doing 91 in a 60 in a fully loaded van on the duel carrigeway as vans have to do 60. I didn't go to court but i wrote an apology letter and why I need my licence. I got 6 points and like £300 fine was back in 2018.
I got caught exactly the same at 93 in a 60! 6 points although an £850. This was back in 2015. Represented myself as i didnt see that a solicitor would be much help haha
I got caught but it was at a speed that I took a speed awareness course instead. Very interesting to do, but there was a lot of idiots in the session I had.
actually they dont expire, they are still visible on the PNC system so, be careful n maybe calm down a bit. (ZZR1400 and zzr1100 rider..) Lincs Near cadders ;)
I've been caught doing 60 in a 30 and got let go, and 100 in a 50 and got let go and, 35 in a 30 and had to do a speed awareness course and £100 fine. makes no sense 😂
Younreally don't want a ban mate. You're insurance will be sky high if you're lucky enough that to even get insurance and you can't rent a car for 5 years. That was my experience of a 6 month T99 totting up ban. Thankfully that was a about 15 years ago now 👍. Take care
Back in 2014 I bought a m3 after 20mins of owning it I was coming down the M5 by Kidderminster & decided to open her up, 3 miles down the road I had a unmarked cop car behind me who had been trying to catch me up for just over 2 miles then when he did he did his 1/4 speed check 🙄🔫. I over took him at 130.8mph when he finally managed to do the 1/4 speed check I was doing 111.66mph 🤬. It took just under 2 years to finally get summoned to court so I thought do I take a solicitor or not I decided not to take one & just plead guilty as everything was on his camera. A few strange things happened, I was given a 3 week ban, my fine was £247 & my insurance as you stated didn't go up talk about dodge a missile. Needless to say I thought as I was that lucky I'd go put the lottery on I did but sadly so I've been told luck only ever comes in 3s 😂
Hey everyone, I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for watching my video and for taking the time to hear my story. It's not easy to admit when we've made a mistake, but I believe that being honest and relatable is the best way to help others. If even one person learns from my experience and avoids making the same mistake, then sharing my story was worth it. So please, take this as a cautionary tale and remember to always prioritise safety on the road. Thank you again for your support, and ride safe out there.
How did you get caught? Camera? Undercover? A Karen?
I got done speeding about 8 months ago and lost my license got suspended for a year and a half so i have finally hit half way point, was getting followed by a helicopter unknowingly then I did a 250km/h run In a 100km/h zone, 10 minutes later had the highway patrol knock on my door and impound my bike and serve me with a court summons
I got caught doing 53 mph outside Buckingham Palace on Constitutional Hill (then a 30mph road). I also got 6 points and a massive fine (a bit more than yours!). Had to ride extra carefully for 3 years but a big relief when they expired.
@@TheHabz did you confess or what? I lost the police in a chase but they couldn’t prove it was me so charges dropped. I’m in the U.K. though. America is a bit more totalitarian…..
The problem with speed enforcement in the UK is how dispassionate the police are in this day and age. I miss the days where the police used to take in the totality of the circumstances before deciding to nick you.
For example in the mid 80’s I was caught doing 114 in a 70 on an RD400E. The officer said “I saw you look over your shoulder, and there was no traffic and you took off.” He let me off, what a relief. Today I’d probably be in prison when a violent offender would get a slap on the wrist. I’m glad I don’t live in the UK anymore.
lucky you this place is a shit hole
This was a speed camera, nothing to do with police officers.
@@tezmcg17 Cameras are even worse when it comes to discretion. My comment about the police is still relevant.
The coppers were often bikers and would give you a bollocking rather than points unless you were doing something really stupid. Totally different times now.
Sadly the old bill deal with the aftermath of reckless speeders like this mug
Most motorcycle accidents are single vehicle on country roads and yes speeding
They have to knock on your loved ones door and give that awful news you lot getting this yet
Banned twice for doubling the speed limit on a motorway, the second ban was a full retest. I moved to Gibraltar, took all my retests there, and now have a Gib license. Every time I get a speeding ticket I fill out the forms with my Gibraltar address and then never hear anything more about it.
I've represented myself in court twice now for being naughty on bikes (twice in over 20 years riding). I'd recommend it, both my cases were really well received by the judges and getting the chance to honestly hold my hands up, accept full accountability and negotiate my punishment directly with the law... was seen as a breath of fresh air by the procurator fiscal and I got very light and fair penalty both times. Lawyers are utter bullshit merchants and I wouldn't trust one to represent me. The judge was amused at that one. Weaseling your way out of a situation with a lawyer is a waste of money and an insult to a judge's intelligence. They appreciated the way I did it and my cop mates pissed themself at how lightly I was punished and how small my fines were!
That’s the main thing, you have to admit your mistake and apologise sincerely.
I did the same years ago. Got a small fine when it could have been worse. The courts probably see lots of people trying to defend the impossible. Not acting like that when you are guilty can result in a bettter outcome.
I got caught doing just over 90mph on a 60mph road just after lockdown ended. I was on a Ninja1000 and literally just gave it a handful to overtake a car doing 50mph. The police pulled me over and I was told I would receive a court summons. I received a letter from the court but due to covid they were trying to deal with things out of court as much as possible and offered me 3 points and £100 fixed penalty. I was very lucky.
Same thing here ! I was on way home on my Monster 1200R after visiting my Ma for a chat through the window of her care home 😢
On the way back I passed an old red Corsa on the back road . Stopped at my mates wee workshop in the village , and a female and male cop approached me .
The guy said “ Are you ok?” I said yea fine why ?
He said I’d passed them rather quickly on the brow of the road and was going a bit too fast !
I told him about my visit , and politely pointed out that my heads probably 3ft above his so I can see further ahead .
He put his hand on my shoulder and said “ I can see you’re upset , but just take it easy on the bike pal “ Not all cops are heartless 👍
im fucking lucky lol I did 120 in a 60 and somehow the police didn't pull me lol
Why dont you bribe?)))
@@666Victor777 lol try bribing In UK its all recorded on body cams they'll just arrest you straight away xD
Respect you for not complaining or making excuses. I've known so many guys over the years get points and bans then whine about it as if it was someone else's fault.
I got pulled for speeding as well during the shutdown but I was classed as an essential worker and was coming back from work, It was also only a patrol car so no camera or I don't think they'd have had any choice but the Cops that pulled me were good as gold,not least when they knew where I was coming from,just told me to keep an eye on my speed and let me go, that was around 50 in a 30 so could have been serious.
I had a similar thing happen to me. I was working through lockdown in the city of London, and I commute on my bike 14 miles to work every day. I got caught down 38mph in 20mph zone, (Which used to be a 30mph zone). I haven't had any points on my licence since 1997. The cop that caught me with a speed gun hiding behind a tree, was determined to prosecute me for it, even though there was nothing on the road. I ended up getting 5 points and a £350 fine. I regularly see police vehicles speeding in these zones while not in a emergency. Seems like there's one rule for us and another for them?
The 20mph zones are a pisstake going in and out of the square mile. If the roads aren't congested to the point of barely walking pace, nobody does 20mph.
Same here. 43mph going over a deserted Blackfriars Bridge. Six points, £650 fine and £150 costs.
@@longshanks4833 The police are always on blackfriers bridge, that's one of their favourite hot spots.
yes thats the most aids thing , best thing no plate or plate flipper and just dip
@@longshanks4833 pure theft right there
It's hard not to speed on a bike. I do try to be careful and pick my times and places, it's probably just luck I've no points yet.
My thoughts exactly. It's probably a question of when rather than if I get caught.
I got pulled years ago for 105 in a 60 on a demonstrator Ducati 848. Filmed by an unmarked car and stopped by uniformed bikers.
First question: Is this your vehicle sir?
Me: No…….
They were decent lads and I was soon on my way.
Went to court suited and booted which must have been a pleasant surprise for the magistrates given the state of some of the scrotes in the waiting area.
And the end of the copper’s statement it read that I had been polite and courteous throughout.
1 month ban and 330 quid fine.
Bike insurers didn’t care, girl on the phone said I was quite restrained only doing 105 on a new 848.
Nice of you to be open and honest about it, I think many have done 93 in a 60 zone at some point especially when a flick of the wrist on most super naked a now will get you from 60 to 93 in seconds. I was a tear away when I was younger getting up to 9 points then I got another 3, I won’t go into how I got away with not getting those last 3 points 😂 but now at 53 years old I try to stick to the limits, and it’s hard to speed now as lots of average speed cameras springing up in Lancashire.
Did anyone suffer a loss when you were speeding through time ? NO. Did anyone complain you were speeding through time? NO, Was anyone harmed when you were speeding through time? NO. Was anyone adversely effected by you speeding through time ? Still NO? Was there a victim when you were speeding through time ? NO. How can speeding be a crime with no victim? You are the victim of law that punishes victimless crimes. Of course had they’re been a real victim the story would be different but the fact is there was no victim.
I got caught speeding some years back and attended a speed awareness course run by two coppers. I was taken by the thinking and thought processes they were taught as police drivers that I decided to do an advanced driving course (IAM). Got so much enjoyment and engagement in my driving without having to speed excessively that I did my advanced riding course too.
I enjoy my riding now more than ever, without those ‘oh shit’ moments or worries about a brown envelope arriving in the post. At least no where near as often😂
So I got done at 127 mph on the M69. I had actually been up to 169mph . Not great but there you go . 9.month ban £890 fine. I ignored the ban. Never got stopped while still riding. That was 6 years ago.
Wheelied my H2 past an unmarked traffic car in 2017. I ate some serious humble pie and ended up being offered a driving course so took that for the win. Little did the policeman know 2 min earlier I was maxed out on the rev limiter in top gear( had the ecu flashed) Man that bike could shift. Sold it shortly afterwards as I knew it was only a matter of time till I got properly caught. Love my current bike Z H2,, hasn't got the top end of the original but enough to keep an old duffer like me happy! Great channel, enjoying the Blackbird resto, I had a ZX12R and a Busa back in the day and am lucky enough to have a Gen 2 ZZR 1400 tucked away for the odd mad flat out in top rip once or twice a year!
Thats the Problem with a Rocket between your legs. You are going always to fast to have fun. Especially with superbikes where the first gear easily goes up to 80mph
Try riding under 20mph in London early morning when there's hardly any traffic. It's a nightmare. 😢
20mph zones are where you find all the supercars on London... ironic really
It is the problem when going down unfamiliar roads to not get carried away :(
So glad Rye you were able to get through the legals without too much trouble.. and and still be able to create solid content for your hungry subs on an ever growing channel. Seriously, thank you. Also loving the mix up of a build video here, a review there and an update thrown in every once in a while to keep us informed. Nice Rye, keep up the superb work👏
Thought you had to be going over 100 for a court summons? If anything I thought that was a bit harsh. About 50% over limit. Bit like 45 in a 30. Easily done if overtaking.
Thanks for sharing, bud.
Story from over here in Switzerland, couple of years back. There were road works between our local town and Berne, bit like a B road. Normal speed limit is set at 60kph and due to said road works, it was reduced to 30kph. I went through on a Saturday afternoon (of course, no work being done, road open), doing 45kph (shock, horror, 28mph) and was caught by a mobile radar. Because it was 15kph over the limit within an urban area, the fine was 650CHF + about 250CHF admin fees (about £810 altogether). I could either pay or go to jail for 3 days 😟.
There are no points over here and they take speeding very seriously. It's almost a capital offence...
Think I'd go to jail for 3 days rather than pay that 😂
Defo , 90 mph isn’t even fast , even if you sit at 70 mph it’s still slow,! I think the speed limit should be 130 mph ! I bet you no one would sit on the motorway at 130 mph , I reckon most people would do 70/90 mph 99% of the time!
We live in a society where we're scared too, and more disturbingly, not allowed to have any fun. The speed limits were set at a time before driver aids; better road surfaces, tyres etc. I think they should be revised. I'd like to see a national motorway limit of 125mph, I think that's plenty. The police really should focus their efforts on solving crime and not simply using the motorist as a cash cow.
Exactly this
And unfortunately, it's only gonna get worse from here on in. We need to get the system overturned, and go back to being reasonable, "live and let live", people.
Charlotte grieff.
Absolutely.
The old bill always say that "speed kill" but this is rubbish. Its all a conspiracy to raise money and make sure that the rich get richer and the porr get poorer.
I was reading the other day that a county in America made all the traffic department rudundant and following this the amount of motorists being caught for speeding fell significantly. It just goes to show that if you leave people alone they start to take responsibility for their own actions.
The UK has got it all wrong when they keep trying to protect people from harm and keep people safe.
Owned my R6 for ten months and have clocked up nearly 6000 miles but putting it up for sale because I,m nuts on it.
As soon as the tires are warm, I'm flat out everywhere and so far been lucky.
172mph the other week....it's got to go now !
Thought you’d got nicked on the R!
What a relief!
Rozzers were hiding on my local loop today in its ridiculous 50mph. Road is straight and should be a 60mph but tax is tax I guess 😮
Great video mate. That’s crazy that your insurance didn’t go up.
Do you think there’s a possibility that you could go full time on UA-cam one day or will you just keep it as a hobby and side hustle?
It's a great question that I don't know the answer to
Having a Solicitor to defend you shows the Judge that you're showing respect to the Court. Defending yourself without a Solicitor can end very badly. Glad to see it turned out OK
I did think this myself actually. Sadly though they didn't consider the solicitors costs when giving me a fine
@@BikesofRye thats a pity
Unfortunately we’ve all been there. Getting caught speeding for more than a couple of mph over the limit is very stressful until the punishment is final; the 12 months of waiting and uncertainty is far worse than the actual points or ban. Out of interest, how much did the solicitor cost?
Thank you for sharing this with everyone. I am in a similar situation right now with 6 points on my licence. What insurance company did you use as you have mentioned it hasn't went up for you? Thank you in advance for your answer
Kinda feels better than my speeding story. Got caught by a bloke hiding in a bush doing 44 in a 40. 🤦
What was the penalty?
@@BikesofRye I got away with doing a speed awareness course as it was "minor speeding". Really annoying as I remember the day vividly, I just blipped the throttle gently in boredom and the copper must have just been waiting for me to do something stupid as it was a brief moment. I'm grateful I have not been caught in the act of a spirited ride on B-Roads though as I don't think I would have got off as lightly.
Nowadays I just go and track my bikes and get my speed out there, way more fun and makes riding fast on roads a bit less inticing 😎.
Same here, I went by a bush the other day and there was 3 coppers hiding in there, one was smoking a fag while on duty. I couldnt believe my own eyes. It was a rhodedendron.
lawyers/solicitors words carry a lot more weight than yours would in court. It's always a good idea to have representation.
Many years ago I got stopped for 99.7 in a 60 limit, I knew my zxr 750 speedo was accurate as it was indicating exactly 100, the guy I was riding with had a brother who is a solicitor, he wrote me the most grovelling letter ever, I got 3 points and £100 fine, I was expecting a ban as not long previously it had been publicised that any more than 30 over the limit would be a ban. Currently have a clean licence.
Such an honest and down to earth video by a bike lover like myself. I have subscribed a while back.
I have a number of comments to add:
I have been driving/riding bikes since 1979 (yes I am not a young man), and in that time have had 3 speeding offences (all in a car though). However, it is almost impossible on today's roads to keep track of speed limits (they go up and down so much), and I also like to keep an eye on the road, NOT the speedometer.
I do, yes I do, try to keep to speed limits, but it is easier said than done when on the wrong side of the road overtaking, especially on a bike (I ride a BMWR1250R). If I am over the limit after the overtake, I slow down, I will not share what speeds I have been at, but like your bike, my bike can pull 100 mph very quickly, it has so much torque.
One other point, I ride in sport (dynamic) mode all the time, even in the wet. The only big thing I notice is I do not have to turn the throttle so much, which is kind on the the wrist. Once you know your bike, as I am sure you do, you use the throttle responsibly, even in the wet, I do not have issues.
A final point, is I have never comes to terms with everything the TFT offers, however I am due a service (booked in next week), 1500 miles under the 6000 miles, but 3 weeks over a year. The TFT is rendered useless by a 'big service due ' screen', which will not respond to input, and I have searched the internet how to turn it off. Pardon my french, but it really pisses me off.
PS. Your blackbird project is an inspiration.
PPS. One final point to test the patience. Lockdown was evil for so many like yourself. When lone dog walkers or joggers or riders were penalised by the police it was an easy catch, and I never saw them as a threat, but when big demonstrations (such as BLM, and I am not against BLM), which were a brewery for the virus, went unchecked, the bigotry was nauseating. You were not a threat to anyone being out alone on your bike.
Superb comment this 👏🏼 thank you for sharing some great points made here
I understand your opinion that you are not a threat to anyone while out there riding by yourself, but what if you came off the bike?. Then you have the Police, the Ambulance staff, the people in the Emergency department and the ward (if you are admitted), the Radiographers and surgical team if you need an operation etc. While we have put all of this behind us now, it still doesn't hurt to think of how many people can be effected by your own actions, and of course the effect this could have on the people who love and care about you. I came off my bike and spent time in hospital and TBH the hardest part was having my 5 year old son coming in to visit and wanting to know when I was coming home, it was absolutely heartbreaking. Stay safe.
@@onecookieboy that’s why they take £1100 out of my wages every month and council tax so it’s not free , we pay for the services so I say go out on your bike and be free , if you crash you crash that’s the risk that’s life , enjoy,ride safe 👍🏾
@@pcarts232 I don't know if you have kids, perhaps not, but one day you might and believe me when I say that changes everything, bikes are still fun and a great escape when you need it, but I have found that I have slowed down a lot.
@@onecookieboydoesn't have to be on bikes mate it can be anything but most accidents happen in the home so lockdown was a double negative.
Fair play Rye! You're only human like the rest of us! I think not getting a ban was a blessing as when I was qualifying customers for motorcycle test rides, the question was always - have you obtained more than 6 points in the last 3 years or a ban in the last 5. Obvs every motorcycle showroom test ride insurance is different but at least you could have said... I've not had MORE than 6 points in the last 3 years and be on your merry way on the test ride :D
That's a damn good point I never thought about!
I miss Letchworth, my hometown ❤
Know the town well. Parking fees had a big impact in the 1990s, it was brill for gift and curiosity shopping.
It's a beautiful town.
Thanks for the honest upload, I thought the insurance company would have gone to town on you and not brought the vasoline! This shows it's not necessarily the end of world if you get caught speeding, which is so easy these days.
That’s a really great outcome mate. I’m happy for you.
Now I’ve spent a lot of time on the previous gen 1 S1000r and this is exactly why I believe that 1000cc in-line 4’s are pointless on the road.
There’s torque but it’s not nearly as exciting as the HP at the top and power delivery is so linear.
This is also why I got rid of my T V4 Factory 1100 as it was just to efficiently fast and I really couldn’t get my kicks. The bike got to triple figures far too quickly with hardly any time on the throttle.
Traded it in for a Superduke gen 2 and to me it’s riding nirvana.
Ferocious torque as soon as you open the throttle and you aren’t chasing that screaming HP.
It allows me to have the most fun and keep it semi-sensible.
We've all been there bud. I was caught doing more than double the speed limit twice, luckily we don't have the point system. But I did go to court & paid a heavy fine.
Which country is this?
@@BikesofRye next video "moving to country X"
Thats definitely a country I want to relocate to.
Cape Town South African. Some of the best mountain passes to ride on.
A really cool, honest video. Thanks for the insight. Your S1000R looks and sounds awesome. +1 subscriber!
Got caught twice in the first 2 years of driving , 6 points and took my license off me, eventually done my test again and since then I have also got my bike license , not proud of it but the way I look at it , it taught me a very good lesson!
Love the vids 👍
@BikesofRye Just discovered your channel and I'm really enjoying the vids. This one struck a chord with me as it's so similar to me and my brother getting done about 20 odd years ago. We got done for 100.9mph in a 60mph limit. There was not a thing on the road and we were in the middle of nowhere. Like you, I didn't try and wriggle out of it or make excuses; I was on my relatively new R6, I was young (and daft) and just wanted to open it up, but there was a copper in an unmarked car hiding up a dirt track and, well, he got us. It was part of a targeted programme by the police to catch speeding bikers.
We had go to court on different days and we both represented ourselves (a solicitor even said it was a waste of money to pay for representation). I got a 2 month ban and £300 fine (this was in 2000 remember) and my brother got 6 points and a £300 fine. So what did I learn from it? A few things: 1) don't ride like dick or be prepared to take a punishment, 2) the law isn't consistent, we got done by the same cop for the same offence at the same time but got different punishments, 3) and this is the one that sticks in my throat, when I watch things like Traffic Cops on the TV I consistently see people riding/driving with no licence, no insurance, while disqualified etc etc who get less of a penalty in 2024 than we got is 2000. Speed is regarded as evil, regardless of whether it was done safely, and is the main 'crime' that most law abiding normal people will get done for. So be careful!!!
for me its the two weeks you have to wait after you think you got caught speeding that kills me the whole did I didnt I, waiting for the letter of doom. I got lucky a while ago I was following an audi on my bike and we both went past a camera pointing at us but I think he got clobbered as his car was shielding me and the bike from the radar gun. lesson learned :)
I had a speeding conviction in 2014 for doing 62mph on a section of the A414 in Essex by Onger, it has a zebra crossing where the speed limit drops from 60mph to 30mph for about half a mile.
And the Police were monitoring speeds at the start of that section.
I had checked my speed as I saw the police officer, and thought I was ok!
Ended up with a probable ban as double the speed limit is automatic ban, where 50-60mph is ban or points at Magistrate discretion.
I represented myself and put forward a case of exceptional hardship as I was the main earner for my family with children at Senior school. The Magistrate accepted my plea and got 6 points and £300 fine
Thanks for sharing, need more vids on the R!
On it!
Just got my fine and points for getting caught at 89 in a 60 zone, £671 and 5 points. What surprised me was the fine for speeding was £415 & £90 court fees but adding on £166 to top up the victims of crime fund was taking the piss, I guess they have to find ways of topping it up but adding it to a speeding fine!
Don't apologise for speeding mate.. at some point, we all do it.
Saying that there's worse crimes out there.
Cops used to have some degree of tolerance... now it's revenue collecting ££££
Got caught on the Blackbird at 150mph a few years back.
3 months disqualification ...£300
Fine... its all stories for the bike camping trips though😂🏍.
Stay safe dude.
Or speeding is killing more bikers than ever maybe and if there was no enforcement everyone would take the piss. I agree with the poxy 4mph over a limit tickets but big speeds they should slap people
I’ve been pulled for speed twice in a year not even a warning. Depends on behaviour.
Steviejinx12
A few years back I was in a similar situation. I was on the pedal cycle going down a steep hill and pedaling like a mad man.
I obvious has no speedo on the bike but I must have been doing at least 32 mph. I was hanging on for crim death and did not see a Police officer on my left untill I was almost past him.
For the next 2 months I was shitin myself I may get in trouble. I can tell you I learnt my lesson good and proper, since the incident I have not pedalled while going down hill. Its just not worth the risk
@@andypicken7848 Fcuk that was funny.. had a bad day, just the tonic I needed, fantastic humour that seems to have flown under the Radar..
The fact is we will always brake the speed limits , from time to time, knowingly or not, it's just a case of if you get caught or not, just be sensible and safe.
Got followed by an unmarked Golf R during 2020 lockdown on my old bike Gsxr600 Srad. Didnt realise it was an unmarked car as they were following real close, just thought it was some boy racer. Dropped it into 2nd gear and took off, was doing 100mph in a 50, when I saw the blue lights come on in the grilles. Long story short, I got 6 points and £400 fine.
Thanks for the video, it comes at just the right time fof me, as I was caught yesterday for an average of 89 in a 60, riding down a road with zero traffic in excellent road conditions and excellent visibility apart from my own eyes not spotting the unmarked bike half a mile behind me timing me over a mile distance, i don't know if I'll go to court or not but I'm hoping I get a reasonable outcome like you did 🤞
You are why I published this video. Glad it helps you out and know you're not alone
Thanks for sharing. Reminds me of me in the nineties on a Fireblade. Don’t be embarrassed. The law was an arse then and it’s worse today.
You were right about the logic of employing a solicitor. They are parasites. The court prefers tie wearing apologetic victims when it comes to handing out punishment, without a flash Gucci suit wearing brief. That was my experience anyway.
I’m still riding today, and if safe I don’t give a flying f#ck about breaking the speed limit. It’s what bikes are for 😁
Warren4
The same thing happened to me.
In the 80s I had a Honda 250 super dream.
I drilled some holes in the exhaust which made it sound and perform like a dragster.
I got caught by old bill who clocked me at 185mph. They tailed me using the Police helicopter as this was the only thing fast enough to keep up.
I was summond before a court and due to a tecnicality got off with the speeding but the fu**ers done me because the horn on my bike had a loose connection.
I suppose we all have to live and learn
Bullshit.
Over here in NSW 30 km/h over is a 3 months suspension instantly and I think 40 km/h is 6 months instant suspension. Of course that's only like 20mph. Very draconian. About ten years ago I lost my licence twice that way - particularly because they dropped the speed limit on my favourite ride by 20 km/h and made it like crawl - so if you rode at 10 km/h over the old speed limit that's 30 km/h over... At that point I got sick of walking to work and it seriously inconvenienced people so I sold my VFR750F and BMW K1300s, cried... (I'll admit it - they were like my children) and didn't own a bike again until I retired which was early at the age of 47. I totally sympathise mate although you are lucky you got off lightly except for the legal costs, anxiousness and hassle of course. All the best Ryan - glad to be your friend mate - even if I live so far away.
Just watch out with posting forward facing footage with your speedo visible.
I've resorted to blurring out any footage on my videos that I upload because there have been cases where chaps have been nabbed by using their footage posted onto social media.
Thankfully where I stay, the local Leo's are still far behind everyone else, until one day they are not. 😅
88 in a 60 doing one brief overtake, nabbed by a dirty parked camera van, 8 points, £600 fine. No difference to insurance fortunately. Rode like a fanny for 3 years, clean again now 👍
That's awesome that you only got the 6 points. A ban is guaranteed to put your insurance up so that's a good outcome I'd say. Know people who have got 6 points for 55 in a 40
I would class that as a right result fella. I don't speed in 30/40's. That's where the heavy fines and punishments are apart from all the dangers. I did ride all through lockdown as I was a key worker. I miss it so much!!!!!!!
I got caught on the M1 on lockdown at 117mph on my motorcycle on a 70mph got a solicitor to come with me. Never had any driving offences got a 21 day ban and 500£ fine with 0points is what I wanted because I had my car driving license for less than 2yrs and 6point would lose it. Always different ending with traffic offences weird
I have gotten pulled over and got a ticket. I felt so violated because it was just a second around an open curve just so I could feel the curve. with my 2001 Honda Magna 120 KM in an 80 km Zone
How did they catch you bud? I’m guessing camera van?
simple lesson i got from being caught speeding was dont fu***** speed in areas your dont know well ! and try your best to look out for cameras or slow down for blind bends that could potentially have cameras up them
about 10 years ago i had 6 points for mobile phone and speeding, didn't tell the insurance. couple of years later i renewed van and go compared it with and without offence codes, was over £100 cheaper with the offences on, couple of months later did the same with the car and again it was over £100 cheaper. even the insurance company couldn't understand it but honoured it
Take it to court, no matter what… that was the best advice I’ve ever gotten.. I’m an American, however.
I got 6 points for checking a text while at a traffic light, my experience however was very different to yours, I couldn't get insurance for less than £5000 for my streetfighter and my van insurance went up by 40%
4 points and $1040 fine in qld Australia 🇦🇺 for that .
Have the y shirt, the lesson is just don’t exceed the speed limit and you won’t get caught, book a track day or three, it’s way more fun and you can test your confidence over your ability to the full
When I got caught speeding and spoke to a solicitor, he said “just pay the fine”
Been watching since the triumph days, happens to use all mate good out come to be honest 🙌
Legend!
How much was the solicitor?
£1000
Just for info, a Ban doesn't wipe the points off your licence, You can recieve a ban AND points for the speed you were recorded at. You were very lucky.............this time. Ride safe
Thanks for the info!
Got pulled doing a stupid speed and was let off, why I don't know, the copper said we ain't all bad. I was staggered.
Great video and good you could you faced upto the problem.
Its quite obviius where the problem is, its the bike, its far to fast for you.
Have you considererd selling it and buying a bike that its much harder to speed on. How about a Honda cub C50. They have very low power and are very suitable for folks that have genuine difficulty riding within the speed limit. They are also quite a sporty looking machine so are the perfect match for an owner who is concerned about image and wants to project himself as sporty.
Thanks for posting Andy
I'm sure you was relieved it was only 95mph .....I bet you did more that day! , I find it hard to keep out of triple figures when I'm in the zone! 😃
I own a street triple rs 2023 model which is great fun. Almost as much fun is my Aston Martin DB11 which I have recently been caught speeding (officially clocked at 104mph), on an empty dual carriage way in bright weather conditions. In 2021 received 3 points for 80 and 2022 caught at 80 obtaining another 3 points, both occasions on empty motorways in good conditions. Unfortunately I think I’ll receive a ban but intend to attend the inevitable court appearance with grovelling apologies and hope for leniency with a minimal ban period. Anyone else had similar totting up issues and what did you experience punishment wise? 🤦🏻♂️
My mate got done on his GSXR 750 in 2000 he was doing 113 in a 60, he lost his license for a month and got a £600 fine. It was on his way to a weekly biker meet and gas the fastest one of 30 odd lads pulled that night!
Hahaha. Yes, I remember it well. Many years ago I got pulled doing 92 in a 60…in a car. Two week ban which I took as holiday from work, luckily.
A few years back got snapped at 58 in a 50 on the bike and was again lucky, Speed Awareness Course.
We all do stupid things on the road from time to time but,… just imagine some old fart pulling out in front of you.
There are so many poor drivers/riders on the roads now and although there’s nothing to beat being a hooligan anyone riding a bike has to be so aware.
How many points and fine did your mate on the Ducati get?
the only thing you can do when banged to rights is admit it, say you are sorry, and accept your punishment quietly. I've been in court 3 times for motoring offences (none for 30 years though lol). unless you are really brewstered you should realise you are going to get done and can't do anything about it, so all arguing and excuses are going to do is antagonise them, they have heard it all a million times before, so unless you have a real need, dont waste money on a solicitor, it won't do you any good at all. GL
Went riding during lockdown best rides i ever had
I wonder how much the fine would be if I got caught at 172 in a 60
S1000R looking mint👌🏻 How’s that new Puig smoke screen been so far? Looks pretty good! I bet it looks even better in person? Does it deflect the wind over your helmet?
I have a question I have a 2022 Triumph triple RS. Which I am thinking of getting rid of for a BMW S 1000 R or a Ducati street fighter V2 what are your thoughts
Aaah dude, I presume it was a speed camera. I've a k1600 caught on average speed down the A1 and in Lincolnshire A17. Not in lock down.!!😢
Just watched your post ,and thought I would mention that while the points are valid for 3 years ,as you stated they stay on your license for 4 ,but a lot of insurers state they count them for 5 so just check with your insurers.
Yes, I agree this is the case. It’s not the initial fine that gets you but, repeated increased premiums times 5. It’s like the law hands you over to the insurers and they rub their hands.
The letter has not come yet but it’s in the post 💯 wasn’t going crazy but well over the 50mph at least 80 😮pesky vans, did it effect your riding after ?
I was lucky - I rode my bikes all through the lockdown - but just to go shopping on - which is usually an 8 mile round trip.
I live in Switzerland…. Make short blasts…. Not prolonged foolery. Just a tip. Of course you can still be unlucky.
Not many cameras in the corners 😊
Just finished my 2nd totting up ban, London riding and mostly 40 in 30s. 3 points x 4, 6 month ban each time. Bit harsh sometimes as was a courier, didn’t have the 2k the solicítese wanted for a exceptional hardship case that they may not win anyway
I know it's an old video but I got caught speeding on my Suzuki 750F in the early 90's at well over a ton, I were banned for 28 days can't remember how much the fine were I think £150 ish, then almost a month to the day later my mate got caught speeding at 125mph on a GPZ 600 as he were on his way to my place & he managed a lesser ban of 3 weeks but had a more expensive fine.
Quick question..who on earth actually keeps Thier original plates on a bike when going for good blast...🤔
Normally you'll got court if you do double the speed limit. Why did it go to court? Normally the police will offer X points and a fine, unless you wanted to go to court?
Some insurance companies will take into account any points accrued in the last five years. Even though they are no longer on your licence
I got caught doing 91 in a 60 in a fully loaded van on the duel carrigeway as vans have to do 60. I didn't go to court but i wrote an apology letter and why I need my licence. I got 6 points and like £300 fine was back in 2018.
Motorcycle sounds amazing 😮😮
I got caught exactly the same at 93 in a 60! 6 points although an £850. This was back in 2015. Represented myself as i didnt see that a solicitor would be much help haha
Cheers for the story good to know! Was your solicitor through your insurance? Also did they what would of happened if over 100?
Over 95 in a 70 is usually a court appearance and a ban
I got caught but it was at a speed that I took a speed awareness course instead. Very interesting to do, but there was a lot of idiots in the session I had.
actually they dont expire, they are still visible on the PNC system so, be careful n maybe calm down a bit. (ZZR1400 and zzr1100 rider..) Lincs Near cadders ;)
Thank you for sharing! Can you share where you got your windshield and how do you like it? It is the first time i see that on you s1000r
I’m waiting for my results.70 in a 50.first offence in 40 years driving
I've been caught doing 60 in a 30 and got let go, and 100 in a 50 and got let go and, 35 in a 30 and had to do a speed awareness course and £100 fine. makes no sense 😂
I love ur blackbird project. I cant wait for each episode. Build faster lol. I need more
Younreally don't want a ban mate. You're insurance will be sky high if you're lucky enough that to even get insurance and you can't rent a car for 5 years. That was my experience of a 6 month T99 totting up ban. Thankfully that was a about 15 years ago now 👍. Take care
Back in 2014 I bought a m3 after 20mins of owning it I was coming down the M5 by Kidderminster & decided to open her up, 3 miles down the road I had a unmarked cop car behind me who had been trying to catch me up for just over 2 miles then when he did he did his 1/4 speed check 🙄🔫.
I over took him at 130.8mph when he finally managed to do the 1/4 speed check I was doing 111.66mph 🤬.
It took just under 2 years to finally get summoned to court so I thought do I take a solicitor or not I decided not to take one & just plead guilty as everything was on his camera.
A few strange things happened, I was given a 3 week ban, my fine was £247 & my insurance as you stated didn't go up talk about dodge a missile.
Needless to say I thought as I was that lucky I'd go put the lottery on I did but sadly so I've been told luck only ever comes in 3s 😂
That’s a very old helmet, I had the same lid had to replace it some years back as the interior had started to disintegrate 🤔