I'm seeing a lot of people getting frustrated with, or even angry at, the A1A, abney317, or Dan for trying to stop Matthias for all those years. You're entitled to your opinion, and maybe I unintentionally did something in the video to frame it that way, but let me explain why I think that's a really bad take. At 2:07 in the video, you see a block of text that says "I guess it's just human nature to oppose something like this." That's taken from a Mario Kart 64 forum post from right when the alliance was formed. These people were trying to do this, not out of spite of Matthias (pretty much everyone in the community really likes the guy in fact), but because OF COURSE you'd want to stop someone from getting every record in the game you play. Imagine how embarrassing that would be, to be a record contender in a game but have one single guy hold ALL 32 records. It's human nature to want to stop something like that, and it was their right to try to prevent it. They didn't do anything against the rules, they didn't do anything against the spirit of competition - they simply banded together to try to get world records. Maybe you think "but by the 7th or 8th time, why did they keep going?" Well... why wouldn't they? It had become a quest to stop him over the years. Even 5 years later, players didn't want to see him hold all 32 records if possible - again, not because they disliked him, but because the community is full of capable players... nobody on the same level as Matthias for non-shortcut players, but still players who can get records if they put in the effort. So maybe by the end, "they should have let Matthias have it, just for a day." Imagine how that would feel for Matthias - if he got 32/32 only because the community stopped grinding to let him have it. Certainly wouldn't feel as good as if he had to work for it. No, the community wanted to make him really earn it, because as amazing as an accomplishment it would be, working against the other record contenders made it legitimate. I understand if you feel bad for Matthias, but I think your mind is going to the wrong place if you're getting angry at the alliance. So yeah, there you go. IMO there is no villain in this story - Matthias is awesome for doing what he did, and the alliance is awesome for being able to prevent it all these years. There's no hard feelings between the two sides whatsoever. Also, here's a link to their Twitch accounts if you want to follow the main players in this video. Matthias - www.twitch.tv/mk64mr abney - www.twitch.tv/abney317 Dan - www.twitch.tv/dansgame89 VAJ - www.twitch.tv/vajito
To people coming to this video, while at the time it was certainly true it was a fun competition between people who liked each other and played legitimately, this later changed. Dan ended up becoming the person to get 32/32, not because he finally did what Matthias couldn't, but because he finally did what Matthias wouldn't. Dan hoarded up to 22 times, getting or tying a record and then not posting it so no one knew he was grinding for 32/32, and then posted them all at once to crush Matthias' records. Heres a quote from Matthias about it: "Some people will call me a bad loser when I refuse to congratulate, but Dan lost all my respect last year. And, for me: Sportsmanship > Gamesmanship... He feared the fair battle and sneaked to the top so that I couldn’t defend properly, and although he became a very strong competitor it’s a loss.” So, to counter Salts pinned comment, it is now quite a good take to get mad, at least at Dan, and no it was no longer the nature of the game and the competitive spirit.
Dan is not an immoral person. There was no indication that such an approach would be dishonest or illegal. Even if there was he does not deserve this much hate for "cheating" a game. There is no Villain in this video. I think that comment from the producer of this content stands even in this new context.
@@SheepStar8Both are valid points and give some context to form your own conclusion. In the end the only fact that matters is that Dan won the 32/32 race. How he did it wasn’t immoral but the community was used dethroning Matthias in a sportsmanship way. Whereas Dan just dropped all of em at once. I mean obviously Dan wanted the 32 but what’s the point if no one is gonna challenge you. Might as well never post it. I respect Matthias and consider the better driver and better challenger
Thinking about it, Mathias being able to consistently hold 30/31 out of 32 records with a crap ton of resistance from the community is more impressive than if he were able to just get the 32/32 years ago with little competition.
"His name was Matthias Rustemeyer, and this was his quest to become Matt Turk" But honestly, when a single player can motivate an entire community to do better... that is some next level stuff right there. A really bitter pill to swallow on this ending, ngl.
So true, imagine being so good at something that it takes the combined efforts of the rest of the worlds best players to just BARELY keep you out, imo that's a greater achievement.
@@martinakapenny honestly, how is 31/32 being kept out? keeping him out would be if every time he posted a record, everyone else came together to beat it so he had no records. he was walking over everyone else. he had already won when he got 16/32
@George-gg4pb I wouldn't call stopping Matthias 8 separate times barely keeping him from anything. I mean, yes, it came down to just a matter of hours on the one occasion where if he'd posted that time the day before, it would've been 32/32... but it was more than once they stopped him.
EXACTLY this. As bummed as we all are that Matthias didn't get his 32/32 (or should I say, hasn't gotten it yet...) the dude was consistently battling multiple top-tier players at a time and took back the 31/32 EIGHT times. At this point the 32/32 is trivial because we all know it's within his grasp; the sheer fact that he can dominate by taking back records over and over and over from countless others is what's crazy impressive. It's basically one soldier vs an army, and the soldier continues to survive and thrive!
Matthias is thanos Moo moo farm was the soul stone the hardest one to get Dan is Ant Man or the rat AKA the one coming clutch to ruin his plan Zoran is Iron Man Abney is Thor Tjl with his moo moo farm original record is Dr strange for buying time so that the endgame could occur.
It’s crazy too how months of them working away at lowering world records an an international group was single handily taken away in weeks by one man with no one helping hin
This is one of the most insane stories in gaming that I’ve ever heard. It’s downright depressing to see someone come so close to their goal so many times but never reach it. Matthias is a true legend for his dedication and skill.
“In the spring of 2021 the MK64 speed running community was blindsided by the astonishing feat of a new player on the scene who in the space of 48 hours accomplished what MR so agonisingly came close to over a 5 year long on again/off again effort; all 32 records. That player’s name? Matt Turk”
@@MostDefinitelyAlbert Have you ever seen them in the same room at the same time? No? Then ask yourself, are they really different people or all one guy? WELL?
@@ZorrotheArtist The fact that these guys grinded for weeks to months to break a single one of these records and he would casually just pick it back up the next day no matter the course is absolutely insane to think about.
This is just the way summoning salt structures their narratives, they does a great job at immersing us and twisting and turning our perspectives at critical moments Notice how everytime mattias takes a break, summoning salt highlights his losses and sizes up his competition, only to narrate how he takes all his records back right after he returns while making it look easy
@@dogo523 then suddenly the narrative switched to mattias's side right at the end, it was weird but I somehow felt bad for him when he failed on the 8th lap
Eight times... EIGHT times he held 31 world records simultaneously. He might not have reached that perfect 32, but man, Mathias is nothing short of legendary.
@@p3chv0gel22 The current top champ, Dan Burbank, achieved all his records by secretly achieving multiple records one at a time, without publishing them, then submitting them all at once, to prevent Matthias from having time to break them one at a time. This was a very controversial action, since people didn’t think that Dan rightfully earned his championship spot as he didn’t allow Matthias to have the opportunity to beat them.
I got so emotionally invested in Matthias's quest, I got mad at abney watching this xD I think this is one of the best videos you've made. At different times in the video you had me convinced he wasn't gonna get it, then I thought he was, and then the bittersweet ending. Incredible work dude.
This is probably the saddest world record video I’ve ever seen. When he said “Mathias’ record total would never recover” all of the hope I had accumulated for 47 minutes straight came tumbling down. I feel almost as if the 32/32 was taken from me directly. I hope Mathias gets back at it one day and proves everyone his might.
@@vesper131 Can you give a link or something of this happening if you don’t mind? I really want to believe you but I haven’t seen anyone else mention this lol
@@RISK536 Yeahhh I did more digging and found out he hasn’t made it back to that point. The top reply was probably based on a misunderstanding. Thankfully he’s still active and setting records though.
"He was down to just 24 world records!" JUST 24 out of 32 possible records.... imagine being so good that you're disappointed at having 75% of the world records in a category...
It's discouraging, but him sticking around for as long as he did shows tenacity. Maybe he'll get it one day, but he'll have to drive like a god to do it.
If anyone can do it, it's him. But I can see how getting so close so many times only to be foiled at the last moment would start to get under your skin.
@@AndrewBlechinger I think he should've played the long-game smarter and grinded those 2 hardest ones until he got those records, not post them until he was 30/32, and then post them for the guaranteed 32/32
@@natenatenate10 I don't have a clue, but I feel like there is some sort of ruling about not keeping wr secrets on purpose over a long period of time without them being invalidated.
@@natenatenate10 while i'm kinda mixed on the keeping wr's a secret thing, I totally agree he should have attacked dk jungle and moo moo farm since for long periods NOBODY was on on his level.
30 minutes into this video and I'm dead set on believing that his whole pattern of getting to 31/32 and then taking the summer months off to let everyone grind up and take his records was just a really genius way to keep the community alive and active and full of friendly rivalries.
He could have had a summer job or something. But I think some of it probably was he was daring them to beat him. Otherwise he could have just hidden his best times until he had them all.
So from what I'm reading in the comments, Dan hid his world records until he posted them all at once, getting 32/32 and essentially making himself the villain. Destroying matthias' dreams and turning the fandom against him. That's uh, that's rough.
like we wouldnt be so mad if he like... hid the last 2, because he felt he was close to the last one, but hiding almost 10 ENTIRE WORLD RECORDS is well, rough.
Nobody's bringing up how generous it was for Matthias to post his records one at a time as he got them, instead of all at once only after getting the 32. This goes to show how much he cared about genuine competition, being truly the best at the game instead of using tricks, and pushing the game as much as possible. Pretty awesome. Frankly, I would've been okay with him suddenly dropping the "whoops, I have 32 now" bomb on everyone.
so true! he intentionally chose to play this like a big clunky raid boss because he cared! after like 5 years of this theres no way he didnt consider the "Whoops got em all" strat but he just chose not to use it because the guy had serious convictions
@@Happy-TeeF keep in mind, the community is incredibly tightly knit. if Matthias did that, it’d almost certainly be seen as a huge betrayal. Dan actually did that to get the champion title and it was hugely frowned upon
@@CowMaam i dont mind getting replied to thats a fair counterpoint, i guess its possible that he didnt use this strat out of fear of backlash, it mightve sullied the victory too. All things worth keeping in mind i think
My thoughts exactly. This whole story has the ebb and flow of a raid, and even if he never gets 32/32, it's insane that anyone could be that singularly threatening.
Ah, that takes me back to when WoW had that Ag-something guy who blocked off stranglethorn vale all the live long day by himself for months and people wrote guides on escaping him XD
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I felt genuinely sad for Matthias, I was desperately waiting for that sweet "We're finally landing" at his last crushed 32/32. I really hope he'll get it, even if it's just to lose it the next hour, the achievement is waiting to be done.
Me too.. the whole time I was rooting for A1A because I was sure he would ultimately get 32/32.. but when I realized that wouldn't be the case I just got sad for the guy. Seems like he was a good sport and 100% deserved it.
@@The_Holy_Wooomy I literally yelled out loud "this is an anime" while listening to this in my car. I have never before used the term nor do I watch anime
This video was a rollercoaster. Not gonna lie, the ending kinda broke my heart :( He sounded so chill and cool. I would have lost my mind at so many points of his journey.
It motivates me to see that he himself did not break. He just keeps going. Even if he held 32/32. I genuinely believe that his comebacks are way more impressive than actually achieving the WR total.
Matthias is an actual legend, the amount of skill needed to hold 31/32 records, AND take back ones he lost within weeks is insane. It’s a shame some people felt the need to go out of their way for a scummy, hollow victory
@@craigdavies2598 What he did was very Unsportsmanlike. He got it legit but he hoarded and refused to Post the Runs in order to keep people, Matthias in particular, from challenging his world records, until he had them all and posted them all all at once. It's like Whispering in Marco Polo. It's not cheating, but goes against all fairness and people will be rightly pissed at you for doing it.
@@rieldebonk1044he did, but it doesn't change the scuminess. dan will forever have the title of being the first player to hold 32/32 records, and that's never gonna change even if mattias has retaken several records back. dan took a legendary title away from people who truly deserved it by being too much of a coward to do it competitively yet fairly
I absolutely love when we get to see “returning” characters in the Summoning Salt Cinematic Universe. Something about the screen sliding over and seeing “VAJ” on the left put a big smile on my face.
Just imagine being so dominant in a game that all the other players have to join and work hard for 5 years just to somehow hold a single solitary record out of 32. Hats off to Matthias
Salt should really make a sequel about this, and about how the whole mk64 community went from seeing Mattias as an arch rival and to keep him from achieving perfection. To standing by Mattias’ side and sticking up for him after what Dan did.
Yeah it’s not worth bringing it up, people will just argue in the comments about how it’s not cheating. It was though, Mattias had everyone working against him because he was posting all these wrs, all he had to do was beat all 32 secretly and post it and there you go but because he was being honorable everyone else was able to take down prior records before he did it. If he didn’t announce no one would be trying as hard to beat those records. That’s what Dan did, he was able to take advantage of hiding it since everyone was focused on the records mattias was going for instead of the ones he secretly beat. It started as a guy taking on the rest of the community and then Dan comes in and nullifies all of that, it’s weak. Hoarding isn’t a big deal on its own, but when someone is trying to take all 32 and you knowing that if you hide it means that no one will try to beat those records until you post it, that’s just lame and should discourage anyone from ever attempting to take every record like this.
@@joro8693 hey! Curious bystander here... I could gather some of the context from your comment, but could you elaborate on what exactly happened? What did Dan do?
@@underworld13 okay so basically here’s the context Mattias originally was going for taking all the records, he announced this, because he did many other players, including Dan, decided to stop him from doing it. Every time mattias would break a record he would show it the minute he did it. Now Dan, knowing how hard they were making it for mattias decided to do a bunch of records but not announce them, the reason being is so no one would bother taking them or working on them since no one knew the record was beaten and mattias would have no reason to take that record back. So he stockpiles a ton of records and releases them all at once in order to not have to deal with the competitive aspect like mattias did. He didn’t want to go through getting all the records the same way mattias did, this wouldn’t be a big deal except he was part of the group that was thwarting mattias and it just made for a lame story. It’s one thing to take all records while fighting the whole community. It’s another to just say surprise i took all the records and you have no chance of stopping me because I took that competitive edge away from a community that’s about being competitive. Aka speedrunning That’s why people hate what Dan did, hope that explains it.
@@Steve-in1sb Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the mentality of speedrunning. If I was aiming for an achievement like that, I'd want to be fought every step of the way because it just wouldn't feel like I'd earned it if they hadn't. The challenger versus the community is how this is supposed to work.
@@daredaemon8878 yeah, but this doesnt mean that opponents should go easy on you for you to get the record. it just seems unfair that a whole community would gang up against you.
It seems like friendly rivalry. They usually congratulate each other for any new record. Also Mathias is not trying to get an "untied WR", he may tie old times like the Moo Moo one. So he basically shows he can replicate the best times. Others can reach this too and get the tied 32/32.
the last tumble was legit painful to watch. I was rooting for him this entire time, and I seriously hopes he comes back and finishes the job. You got this, dude!
I was too... but he still can do it and if not him then another. What's really important is how he brought new life into a community thats still going.
Throughout watching the whole video I'm thinking "wow it would have been so easy for this guy to just break all the records privately and release them all at once, he's really doing this the hard way." MFW I read the comments. 😮
Nobody's going to make a video about Dan except to shit on him. Dan might've held all the records, but nobody cares because of the way he did it. Now millions of people know the name Mattias Rustemeyer and Dan's exploits will fade from memory far quicker than the unbelievable competition this video showcased. The records are beside the point. The thrill of the competition is what makes this story so intriguing and so human. Mattias is the GOAT, simple as that.
@@domskillet5744 It's human because it combines envy, jealousy, power, our limits, and your own self-control. MR is cool. Dan bad, duh. A1A is cool but it pissed me off that it had to be branded that way.
@@domskillet5744in fact we just all remember Dan but for the wrong reason. As a sore loser who couldn't handle the competition because he's not as good as Matthias and did it the sleazy way just so he can hold that title. No one GAF about him and won't ever respect him again. Much like other legit cheaters he's been shunned, even if he didn't cheat his time he did cheat the leaderboards. And that is completely unacceptable.
I think it's a framing thing. Matthias wanted 32/32 to prove he was the best player across the board, but Dan hoarding records to prevent people from challenging him shows that he didn't actually want to be better than everyone, he just wanted the title of being 32/32.
I thought Mr. Salt did a very good job at making you cheer against Matthias in the beginning, but by the end you (or at least I was) were rooting for him.
Me too, but I feel.more embarrassed for the rest of the mk64 players that had to collectively team up against q person who was clearly head and shoulders above the rest of them
Matthias has brought that community together in a way that no one else probably could. His ability to push the boundaries and set records probably gave many players a new goal to strive towards, to beat the unbeatable. I think Matthias must have appreciated the challenge too; he never held back anything from the others within the community, even going so far as to let people know he was taking a break. I think he will always continue to strive towards the 32/32, but his legacy is much more than that at this point.
yeah Matthias definitely is the hero of the community and should be praised as such. Imagine one person inspiring so many others to be their absolute best they can be at the game.
Without the quest for 32/32 and without the subsequent forming of the A1A to stop said quest, MK64 would've been much less interesting to watch and follow. I think the game and community enjoyed an upswing thanks to the insane action. Of course it is sad that he didn't get it, because let's be real, HE DESERVED IT after that total domination, but the community as a whole and any people aspiring to get into karting should be grateful he didn't get the 32/32 because that means that maybe the chance will present itself again for someone, who knows it might even be MR clutching it.. It's like that saying goes, "9th time's the charm" right? :)
You know, this really shows just how many amazing stories there are hidden deep in these fanbases. This was an absolute rollercoaster, yet hardly anyone outside the Mario Kart 64 speedrunning community has ever heard of it! This might be your best work yet. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time, wondering what would happen next and how it would end.
My knuckles have dents in them because my teeth were lodged in them the whole time. Rarely have I been captivated by anything like this before. Salt is a true artist
Man, I was about to leave a comment almost exactly like this. The way Summoning Salt presented the story was just so beautifully done, I definitely agree it's probably my favorite of his work yet.
People are hating Dan because what he did wasn’t illegal or anything. However, it was unsportsmanlike and it left a bitter taste in everyone’s mouth. I still find Matt’s 31/32 more impressive than Dan’s 32/32.
well i mean, hearing it from the comment section is a lot easier to bear than knowing how it actually went down. dan kept almost a DOZEN world records private, not just like 3. it wasnt just unsportsmanlike, he made it seem like he was still stuck in the mid 20s, not 29 or 30, but like 24 records.
@@plutonicattic7995he didn’t hide the last dozen, he went from like 10 to 20 or so (MT had 10 uncontested, plenty more were tied) Think, not sure - either way it broke his spirit and with the biggest competition out the way, and most of the community having a bitter taste in their mouth they just avoided him
@@masterofdoots5965he hoarded records, as in didnt post him hitting them, so it made matthias unable to properly defend them, doing this is strongly looked down on in most speedrunning communities
@@vehemence. In other words Matthias Rustemeyer aka MR deserves is the real GOAT (because of his humility and dedication), not Dan Burbank who ruined the iconic moment to obtain MR's 32/32 before he reaches it. What a bad winner and a jackass. Sorry for insulting at someone it's frustrating and i'm frustrated but he deserves to be marginalized...and abney I respect him but he's not like MR and he will never be.
Amazing video from SS, I knew the facts of course but the way of presentation is top level. For the period of the quest in this video (until end of 2018), I had big respect for all the other players who formed the A1A and it was indeed their right to defend and make 32/32 the ultimately hard goal which only feels genuine to achieve against active opposition. If you followed the scene in 2020, you'll know that I lost respect for 1 particular A1A member, but during all 31/32 occasions it had been a fair game with sportsmanship on my side as well as the others' - the only way to write such a thrilling history in my opinion.
You truly did a phenomenal job! That record is absolute astonishing! It’s also really nice to see how much you guys all respected each other :) Good luck as you continue your quest to 32/32!!!
You are the best dude. Also Im curious, who did you lose respect for and why? Edit: 31 wr is great I have been trying to get 1 in mario kart ds but I cant even come close ;-;. Im like 3 seconds slower than the wr, which is a lot in mario kart. This game takes speedrunning to a hole different lvl. In mc wr are beaten by several seconds, but in mario kart is by 0.001 seconds sometimes. In mc nobody even counts anything smaller than a second
You’re an absolute legend, man. There’s no way I would have been able to pick myself up and keep fighting after getting so close so many times and go at it again
What a masterpiece. I felt myself rooting against Matthias and then rooting for him, only to be heartbroken when he came so close the final time. I hope he can get 1.000 at some point. He deserves it. Amazing video.
I feel the same! But the community must continue to fight as hard as they can to prevent it, because simply letting him take it would be an empty victory.
This is what the people saying the a1a are jerks are missing. Even with an alliance to stop him, with the best of the best actively trying to stop him, he maintained a major dominance over almost all the tracks.
@@niismo. You do understand though, he literally said "I am going to be the absolute best player of this community" by announcing his challenge for 32/32, of course, the entire community would try to prevent that.
You left out the part where the runners discovered an ancient mesoamerican tomb with inscriptions on the walls noting that Matt Turk held all 32 records, with better times than today's runners, 300 years ago.
Man, hearing about what happened after this video is pretty sad. Dan was the guy who took the title of "world record holder" too seriously and ended up ruining the competition for everyone, including himself and the A1A he was a part of. Shame.
It’s clear to me who is the underdog it’s MR The alliance was made up of many and many good players and Matthias was only one dude trying to challenge them Underdog story for the underdog Ends up losing
@@bluekirbyrocks But MR was so dominant he was able to get his WRs back in a matter of hours, even though he had to grind multiple stuff at the same time. No amount of good players was enough to truly stop his dominance. Seriously, he's so OP that he looks like a super villain, so I can't blame those who think A1A were the true underdogs. Some sort of Thanos vs Avengers. In my eyes, it's a bit of both. A1A looked like underdogs during the second or so 32/32 prevention, but after that, MR felt way too human to not be the underdog. The system started to seem rigged against him and the system can't be the underdog.
@@calamorta I agree, I think the skill was always there in the community but had grown complacent, and MR came in and showed how much more everyone could grow. I honestly love stories like this where the community kind of starts to think "We've hit the upper limit all we can do is optimize a bit" and then someone just breaks down the door and shows there's more room to improve than anyone was thinking.
It's so easy to forget when watching these clips that this isn't way in the past, and might still be going on. The crappy graphics and the summoning salt aesthetic make it feel like some strange forgotten memory. This was like... 2 years ago. Wild
Summoning's presentation style is like a dream, an absolutely timeless experience that if he didn't reference games and technologies released in specific times and talk about dates, it could be from any era.
@@kenb2957 It totally does feel like a fever dream, just a weird feeling that you can't escape but is somehow nostalgic. I think that's what keeps me coming back and watching these videos that I really don't care about at all and become invested
The alliance was formed to prevent Mathias from humiliating them, but the very act of forming an alliance against one man, is humiliating in itself in my opinion. That man was pure heat
I was thinking this exact thing the whole time. I’m not mad at individuals trying to take records since that’s the whole point, but that mindset of “it would be embarrassing to let him show us up like that, so let’s band the entire community together to try to fight back the looming threat of one guy” is equally embarrassing if not more so than him just getting the 32/32
It was a fun alliance. I really liked abney hes kinds like the underdog in the story with many allies but none can match at the bleakest of times. Matthias is like an overpowered monster and abney smh clutched at every important moment to stop the monster. 😂😂 Overall they are crazy plays
@@tygrenvoltaris4782even so they still formed a alliance meaning they all had to work together to stop one guy which kinda sucks, itd be better if it was individuals cause then in a group just downplays their skill
@@JimmyBusher I kinda disagree they're all extremely skilled which is WHY they're able to hold him just barely away from total domination they aren't co-op tracks they're just all coordinating what they're good at and doing what they'd do anyways as a team instead
@@jplayzow I see your point but the fact they're all so skilled yet they all have to coordinate everything together to stop one person still to me downplays them as a whole,if it was individuals it'd make for a more intresting story with how one person had to go through hurdles with other people who individually wanted to stop him and he just had to overcome them one by one. Any one not from the community just kinda hears that one guy was going for wr then really good players had to band up against him just because they couldn't do it alone, it just downplays them no matter what.
It truly is sad when something this fantastic doesn't come to pass. By 24 hours. By one frame. By half of a cart width. I feel so sad about this. He deserved that perfect rank, if only for a single moment.
If you think about it it was something like 5 against 1, and they could specialise in just a few tracks each. Matt did the most work, so sort-of deserved the 32.
@TomPen94 You know none of them actually hated each other, right? It was all for the sake of improving the World Record times on each track and for some good fun competition.
@TomPen94...yeah nah ur turning it into something it isn't. Matthias knew he was leagues ahead, it's speedrunning, the vast majority of people doing it do it for the competition, fun, and love of their game. it wasn't this clique bullying one guy and not letting him sit at their lunch table.
@TomPen94 this is basically the same as The Quest to Beat Matt Turk. Nigga hold all WRs on all my maps but was beaten by several dedicated people. *Truly the mighty have fallen.*
I'm heartbroken for MR. He is such a good sport. Nothing against A1A. They did their thing which was great too, and MRs run wouldn't have been nearly what it was without them. This story couldn't have been made without A1A. But man, 7 times to be so close. Its like Jim Kelly losing 4 straight Super Bowls.
Funny to think Matthias probably could have gotten 32/32 If he had just not published the last couple records until he secured them all Him being at 31/32 at any point would give the other runners way more incentive to cut him off Though it would’ve kinda been a dirty move Good sportsmanship on his part big time
I still respect MR’s perseverance towards keeping up with everyone even nowadays as there’s even MORE new strategies found even in 2020. MR was SO close to perfection many times, but someone yanked it away at the last moment every opportunity. Just goes to show how much depth a game like MK64 can still have. Your videos on WR’s in depth have become some of my new favorite videos to listen to Summoning Salt.
Never felt so personally attached to a person playing a game older than me for thousands of hours. Really sucked rooting for Mathias and knowing that he never got what he was gunning for. Speaks volumes about how well the video was put together
One of the most oddly poignant speedrunning stories I've heard. I am glad that it didn't end up with one side just "letting the other side win", or else it would not have felt earned in the end. And besides, time still marches on!
for me i would have not just "let him have it" more so, allow him to reach it. Even if I had a time that beat one of his records, i would not submit it, allow him to have the 32/32... and then post my record. The reason for that is it was his ambition. The A1A was trying to stop him from getting 32/32, and I get that. But i was rooting for him to get 32/32, even as a challenger, i would still root for him given how close he was. I would gladly smash his records if i could, but I would let him keep hope and get to the 32/32 (Trust me i know what it is like to have that ambition and then have that ambition lost. Having people out to get you.
I think people have a problem with the intent that it seems the A1A had. They weren't just playing the game and getting wr's all the time. They actively planned on how to keep him from getting it.
MR became a legend, while Dan is just some speed runner. True hero’s and legends are sometimes tragic, but that makes them not a bit less legendary. MR is one of the few in the speedrunning pantheon, right next to Matt Turk.
The only thing that would make this greater is if Dan or Abney went on an insane record breaking run and Mattias came back to join the Alliance to stop one of them from getting 32/32. This is already a Netflix quality gaming documentary though. Just so fun to watch.
I mean.... Dan technically did, but in one of the most controversial ways. For a bit of info on that, I recommend ManyKudos' "The Many Scandals of Mario Speedrunning".
@@AkadaJr He's legitimately held the records, but in a way where he didn't have any serious competition. It's like, say, winning a Street Fighter tournament where all the top competitors in the world refused to go to, except for three, and claiming your the best in NA. Except instead of that fiasco, It's making one but only telling one really really good player from Japan, who consistently beat high level American players, on a broken version of the game, beating them and claiming you're best NA. Technically yes but not only are you an asshole for doing so, and people will rightfully be pissed at you.
@@TaksytheGynoidthat's not remotely comparable. Dan got his records all legitimately, with proof. He just hoarded them. You might think that's bad, but dont lie to make them seem worse. It reflects on you poorly.
@@TheCompleteMental "He's legitimately held the records, but in a way where he didn't have any serious competition." The comparisons are reasonably accurate. Getting the record itself legitimately versus getting it, posting it, and getting the other records before others can take those records off you is extremely different. Thomanator definitely hyperbolized what Dan did (assuming he didn't actually claim that he's the king of 64 due to having these records), but saying "he got them legit...he just hoarded them" is similarly detached from what the *actual* win condition was.
This is such a great e-sports story because everyone is an underdog. Matthias is attempting something incredibly ambitious and likely not possible to do recreate in the future of the game’s speedruns, which makes him an underdog, but it also necessarily means everyone who competes with him is up against the best player in the community. This video definitely captures that duality, which honestly makes it one of the best speedrun histories I’ve seen
This is why I don't speedrun games. If an *entire community* banded together just to stop me, I'd quit - because what's the point when the entire community is out to destroy your dream? Good sportsmanship counts for a lot, but in the end, when there's titles or bragging rights on the line, there's no such thing as heated competition that won't eventually turn toxic. For proof, just look at what Dan did after the events of this video, specifically hoarding a bunch of WR times and posting them all at once, to ensure nobody could properly challenge them, just as he challenged Mattias's. That's how Dan took 32/32, crushing Mattias's dream of being the first person to hold all of the WRs simultaneously. I know, this story was supposed to to be an uplifting one about how one person's quest would inspire spirited competition from an entire community, but I can't help but read it as an entire community ganging up on one guy just because he had a dream and dared to pursue it with the ability to make it a reality. The A1A destroyed this poor guy, one snipe at a time, only for one of their own to then steal Mattias's dream from him, once he was too broken to continue. It feels less like good competition, and more like a mafia kneecapping a guy repeatedly until he finally gave up. Striving to win is one thing. Striving to shut out someone else on the cusp of victory, when you have nothing really to lose, is bad sportsmanship IMO. When you're not playing to win, but instead playing to keep someone else from winning, you're not working your way up - you're punching down. The fact that Mattias held out for so long and achieved so much under an entire community holding him back, and remained a good sport about it the entire time, is positively miraculous and speaks volumes about both his ability, and his personal integrity.
Plot twist: Mattias actually planned everything, set himself to fail all those times so a video was made about him, waited 2 years and will now come back to finish what he started I sure hope so...
To anyone wondering about the latest news on MK 64 scene. In the end Mattias failed to achieve his goal. He has retired after one of his rivals, Dan Burbank, obtained all 32 world records. How did Dan manage to pull this off? For over a year Dan has been secretly gathering (or hoarding as some people say) wr times and then published (or unhoarded) them all at once. This way no one could challenge him. He also wrote an apology. Which is in my opinion a bit hypocritical since dude had over a year to consider what he is about to do.
Accomplished this way, Dan holds the champion record, but certainly not the UNDISPUTED champion record, which is what MR came so close to accomplishing
It should also be added for some context that hoarding WR records is a severely frowned upon practice in speedrunning and generally considered in bad faith as you're not able to be disputed in a reasonable manner and nothing can be competed against.
These are the kind of incredible untold stories of the internet that would otherwise be lost to time. Love the work you do SS - this one especially was an awesome ride!
He had held all 32 WR at least for some space of time, very few have ever beaten him. It’s safe to say that Mathias is the best MK64 player of all time. Holding 26+ WR for years while people are actively trying to beat you, that is beyond impressive
I guess there's always the pride in breaking a record, you want to show it off immediately, plus, if you don't share it there's a chance someone else will beat it before you do, and you'll never actually get to hold the record.
My chest hurts after watching this. My heart goes out to Matthias and all the work he put in, though at the same time, I can only imagine how exhilarating it must be to be Dan or Abney during this time. Constantly making sure that you’re keeping the dragon at bay. I can only imagine how much fun this quest must have been and must be for everyone involved
Dan taking 32/32 in a community built on trust and competition by deceiving the community turned what was a great competition and rivalry to one of the grimiest dirtiest rat things I’ve ever heard of. Taking a 7 year reign in such a classless way and then taking the 32/32 after the community is mainly dissolved because of your actions is disgusting and disturbing. Edit: shows not only a clear disregard and lack of love for the community but also shows that the one thing on dans mind was his love for himself no matter how many people would needed to be stepped on. Without the backstabbing and hiding he knew he never would be able to have a chance to achieving the goals he did. For a year he meticulously planned his backstabbing, sociopathic behavior at best.
@@ritzgamez bruh its a large group of peoples hard work and dedication for well over 2 decades, taken in secret by someone who was against the idea of doing it in the first place.
exactly, I like how you put it this is how I feel; Mattias was having a fair challenge with everyone in the opening and having fun, it was a game of back and forth and there was excitement, thats what this whole video is about, and what Dan did is a short part of the video cause it was an act of cowardice, deciept, and betrayal to the sport and to the spirit of competition, the entire community was in a race together and he shows up out of nowhere telling everyone they lost it all at the very end, fuck Dan, that dirty rat bastard
@@thunderball11111 they have no idea it's in danger if it's hidden. Also speedrunning is built upon learning from others as much as just on your own, if he's hiding every record until the very last second it's not the same thing as posting every record as you go and taunting the community to keep up with you. They did lose to Dan but MR could have done the same thing pretty easily if he found some route or trick that got him ahead and hid it. Nobody would know what to challenge or even how.
I'm seeing a lot of people getting frustrated with, or even angry at, the A1A, abney317, or Dan for trying to stop Matthias for all those years. You're entitled to your opinion, and maybe I unintentionally did something in the video to frame it that way, but let me explain why I think that's a really bad take.
At 2:07 in the video, you see a block of text that says "I guess it's just human nature to oppose something like this." That's taken from a Mario Kart 64 forum post from right when the alliance was formed. These people were trying to do this, not out of spite of Matthias (pretty much everyone in the community really likes the guy in fact), but because OF COURSE you'd want to stop someone from getting every record in the game you play. Imagine how embarrassing that would be, to be a record contender in a game but have one single guy hold ALL 32 records. It's human nature to want to stop something like that, and it was their right to try to prevent it. They didn't do anything against the rules, they didn't do anything against the spirit of competition - they simply banded together to try to get world records.
Maybe you think "but by the 7th or 8th time, why did they keep going?" Well... why wouldn't they? It had become a quest to stop him over the years. Even 5 years later, players didn't want to see him hold all 32 records if possible - again, not because they disliked him, but because the community is full of capable players... nobody on the same level as Matthias for non-shortcut players, but still players who can get records if they put in the effort.
So maybe by the end, "they should have let Matthias have it, just for a day." Imagine how that would feel for Matthias - if he got 32/32 only because the community stopped grinding to let him have it. Certainly wouldn't feel as good as if he had to work for it. No, the community wanted to make him really earn it, because as amazing as an accomplishment it would be, working against the other record contenders made it legitimate.
I understand if you feel bad for Matthias, but I think your mind is going to the wrong place if you're getting angry at the alliance.
So yeah, there you go. IMO there is no villain in this story - Matthias is awesome for doing what he did, and the alliance is awesome for being able to prevent it all these years. There's no hard feelings between the two sides whatsoever.
Also, here's a link to their Twitch accounts if you want to follow the main players in this video.
Matthias - www.twitch.tv/mk64mr
abney - www.twitch.tv/abney317
Dan - www.twitch.tv/dansgame89
VAJ - www.twitch.tv/vajito
goob
Pin this comment so more people can see it! :)
Edit: Wow he did it within a minute a typed this.
Summoning Salt You need to pin this, or no one is going to see it! Great video, I was on the edge of my seat the entire time.
i couldn’t agree more thank you for such an amazing video and keep up the great content
Friendly competition is one thing, but it's pretty poor sportsmanship to get your enjoyment by ruining someone else's.
"He was finally at 31/32 records and just needed one more"
**30 minutes left in video**
Facts lol
Strap in buttercup!
*Starts sweating*
Proceeds to talk about every frame in the race for 30 mims
"Had he been a sixth of a subpixel off or 9 microseconds earlier, Mathias would have done it"
Mattias seems like such a good sport. Every time he got so close to 32/32, only to have it taken away, he was kind to the challengers.
yooo you made my 2016 legendary dude hope your doing well
youtube move comments back so it doesn’t spoil the video please
@@turtlel0ver906 Thinking the same thing. Damn.
I wasn’t expecting you in this comment section Skul
Spoiler warning!
"But this time, the community took it a step further."
"They put out a hit on Matthias."
NGL with how the video was going I was REALLY expecting something of that level coming from or to Matthias
this is a golden comment
I legit thought that LMAO
Was expecting him to say someone died
loooool
To people coming to this video, while at the time it was certainly true it was a fun competition between people who liked each other and played legitimately, this later changed. Dan ended up becoming the person to get 32/32, not because he finally did what Matthias couldn't, but because he finally did what Matthias wouldn't. Dan hoarded up to 22 times, getting or tying a record and then not posting it so no one knew he was grinding for 32/32, and then posted them all at once to crush Matthias' records. Heres a quote from Matthias about it: "Some people will call me a bad loser when I refuse to congratulate, but Dan lost all my respect last year. And, for me: Sportsmanship > Gamesmanship... He feared the fair battle and sneaked to the top so that I couldn’t defend properly, and although he became a very strong competitor it’s a loss.” So, to counter Salts pinned comment, it is now quite a good take to get mad, at least at Dan, and no it was no longer the nature of the game and the competitive spirit.
I feel like this needs to be pinned no?
I guess it's legitimate for 32/32, but it's hard to accept. Definitely not a sportsmanlike move.
Dan is not an immoral person. There was no indication that such an approach would be dishonest or illegal. Even if there was he does not deserve this much hate for "cheating" a game. There is no Villain in this video. I think that comment from the producer of this content stands even in this new context.
@@SheepStar8hoarding is morally bankrupt
@@SheepStar8Both are valid points and give some context to form your own conclusion. In the end the only fact that matters is that Dan won the 32/32 race. How he did it wasn’t immoral but the community was used dethroning Matthias in a sportsmanship way. Whereas Dan just dropped all of em at once. I mean obviously Dan wanted the 32 but what’s the point if no one is gonna challenge you. Might as well never post it. I respect Matthias and consider the better driver and better challenger
Thinking about it, Mathias being able to consistently hold 30/31 out of 32 records with a crap ton of resistance from the community is more impressive than if he were able to just get the 32/32 years ago with little competition.
Yeah it's not as big of an achievement if no one is competition against you
Man he should have grinded moomfarms lap and forgot about the rest. Then when he finally had that one he should.have just taken the rest.
@@Hater20X Yeah, he realized way too late that that was what he needed to do.
yes
I agree
"His name was Matthias Rustemeyer, and this was his quest to become Matt Turk"
But honestly, when a single player can motivate an entire community to do better... that is some next level stuff right there. A really bitter pill to swallow on this ending, ngl.
Matthias and Matt team up against the entire speed running community lmaooo there would be no survivors
So true, imagine being so good at something that it takes the combined efforts of the rest of the worlds best players to just BARELY keep you out, imo that's a greater achievement.
@@martinakapenny honestly, how is 31/32 being kept out? keeping him out would be if every time he posted a record, everyone else came together to beat it so he had no records. he was walking over everyone else. he had already won when he got 16/32
@@GraveUypo "barely kept out" you know what that means? Kept out as in stopping him from reaching his goal of 32/32 which they did barely
@George-gg4pb I wouldn't call stopping Matthias 8 separate times barely keeping him from anything. I mean, yes, it came down to just a matter of hours on the one occasion where if he'd posted that time the day before, it would've been 32/32... but it was more than once they stopped him.
This is the most stressful video ever created.
I'd call this course Blue Balls Boulevard
Watching him tumble that last time made me so sad
For real
I am breaking mine teeth while watching this
The first Summoning Salt video that made me depressed and unsatisfied at the end. It rly did summon salt in me.
I love the parts of these videos where SS would say something like “and he beat him by 0.0394 nanoseconds. This was a huge jump”
damn bro what is your pc setup? id love 25 billion fps
And he beat him by an entire planck time this was an absurd improvement
@@tomk6292bro did the math 💀
@@lobstermyname4477 Yes, we do that on everything
"you didn't win?"
"no... but it took an entire nation to stop me."
EXACTLY this. As bummed as we all are that Matthias didn't get his 32/32 (or should I say, hasn't gotten it yet...) the dude was consistently battling multiple top-tier players at a time and took back the 31/32 EIGHT times. At this point the 32/32 is trivial because we all know it's within his grasp; the sheer fact that he can dominate by taking back records over and over and over from countless others is what's crazy impressive. It's basically one soldier vs an army, and the soldier continues to survive and thrive!
Is this a quote from something? What is it from?
Matthias is thanos
Moo moo farm was the soul stone the hardest one to get
Dan is Ant Man or the rat AKA the one coming clutch to ruin his plan
Zoran is Iron Man
Abney is Thor
Tjl with his moo moo farm original record is Dr strange for buying time so that the endgame could occur.
It’s crazy too how months of them working away at lowering world records an an international group was single handily taken away in weeks by one man with no one helping hin
I looked p this quote to see where it's from and I just got a bunch of trump news articles
This is one of the most insane stories in gaming that I’ve ever heard. It’s downright depressing to see someone come so close to their goal so many times but never reach it. Matthias is a true legend for his dedication and skill.
One frame. That's all that stopped him. 1 single measly frame.
@@VocalMabiMaple one frame, a bonk, half a cart length, a day, a tenth of a second.... I couldn’t even begin to imagine being in his position
“In the spring of 2021 the MK64 speed running community was blindsided by the astonishing feat of a new player on the scene who in the space of 48 hours accomplished what MR so agonisingly came close to over a 5 year long on again/off again effort; all 32 records. That player’s name? Matt Turk”
The legend
Matt Turk has become a meme on this channel lol
"And just a few short hours later, it was again completed by another single player. Their name? Rodd Togers"
But, determined not to let that stop them, Scott Kessler, Hotarubi, and Andrewg began grinding for the record
"Nah, just kidding, it was Dan"
Update for December 2022. Matthias just retook the champ title from Dan after a year and a half. The goat is back on top!
Yessir
source?
@@btfo420 Matthias's UA-cam and twitch lol
I’m stoked. Screw that Dan guy
@@ilyaskir1601 Dan‘s a CHUMP
This has to be the most amount of plot twists ever in a Summoning Salt video. No joke.
But then...
I KNOW RIGHT?!
Out of nowhere...
Somehow when I think Summoning Salt has done the most compelling story, the next video is always somehow more crazy!
@@KaladinVegapunk
It’s a friendly rivalry. Chill out man. Both sides are full of great people and they all love each other.
Summoning Salt: "that person was Dan Burbank"
me, no clue who that is: "holy shit it's Dan Burbank"
Peril HAHA LMAO
He's a NASA astronaut, (no joke) cool guy
This is ww2 Mario cart version
@@MostDefinitelyAlbert Have you ever seen them in the same room at the same time? No? Then ask yourself, are they really different people or all one guy? WELL?
When summoning salt tells us who someone is, we know they important lol
The fact that Matthias was basically in a 1 v 100 and stood his ground is insane.
and not only stood his ground , but spanked them left, right and centre. he is the god amongst gods
He truly is, and I say this with all seriousness, one of the best speedrunners to ever live, if not, close to THE BEST.
man was Napoleon lmao
@@ZorrotheArtist Dude, Mattias is. The fact that these A1A suddenly dropped it when an American was claiming the 32/32 just shows their shallowness
@@ZorrotheArtist The fact that these guys grinded for weeks to months to break a single one of these records and he would casually just pick it back up the next day no matter the course is absolutely insane to think about.
I think whats so entralling about this particular story is that, somehow, both sides really seem like the underdog
To me Mattias seems like almighty overlord that the rebels have to desperately try to hold back
This is just the way summoning salt structures their narratives, they does a great job at immersing us and twisting and turning our perspectives at critical moments
Notice how everytime mattias takes a break, summoning salt highlights his losses and sizes up his competition, only to narrate how he takes all his records back right after he returns while making it look easy
@@dogo523 then suddenly the narrative switched to mattias's side right at the end, it was weird but I somehow felt bad for him when he failed on the 8th lap
Both sides seem like the underdog? When they would share at most 8 records between a large group? Mate sort it out.
@@sleazymeezythat is such a weak mindset, all against one
Every time summoningsalt says “and his name was” im just having vietnam flashbacks and think that he will say Matt Turk
you mean xX420BlazeItXx
@@mosca2810 nah
Matt Turk unexpectedly takes a record off Mattiathas out of nowhere.
If you stop reading at the first 4 letters...
and his name was JOHN CENA!!!!!
Eight times... EIGHT times he held 31 world records simultaneously. He might not have reached that perfect 32, but man, Mathias is nothing short of legendary.
He reached 31. It's more than any of the A1A guys will ever do.
And he's still running. Currently at 19/32 with a few ties or very close attempts
@@p3chv0gel22 20 now
He’s nothing short of legendary.
But he was always short of 32.
@@p3chv0gel22 The current top champ, Dan Burbank, achieved all his records by secretly achieving multiple records one at a time, without publishing them, then submitting them all at once, to prevent Matthias from having time to break them one at a time. This was a very controversial action, since people didn’t think that Dan rightfully earned his championship spot as he didn’t allow Matthias to have the opportunity to beat them.
I got so emotionally invested in Matthias's quest, I got mad at abney watching this xD
I think this is one of the best videos you've made. At different times in the video you had me convinced he wasn't gonna get it, then I thought he was, and then the bittersweet ending.
Incredible work dude.
This is probably the saddest world record video I’ve ever seen. When he said “Mathias’ record total would never recover” all of the hope I had accumulated for 47 minutes straight came tumbling down. I feel almost as if the 32/32 was taken from me directly. I hope Mathias gets back at it one day and proves everyone his might.
he got the 32/32 record in december 2022 :)
@@vesper131 Can you give a link or something of this happening if you don’t mind? I really want to believe you but I haven’t seen anyone else mention this lol
@@nou1186he did not
@@RISK536 Yeahhh I did more digging and found out he hasn’t made it back to that point. The top reply was probably based on a misunderstanding. Thankfully he’s still active and setting records though.
@@nou1186 yeah for sure
"He was down to just 24 world records!"
JUST 24 out of 32 possible records.... imagine being so good that you're disappointed at having 75% of the world records in a category...
It’s a good problem to have tbh.
I doubt he himself was disappointed, he seems like a hella sweet guy who enjoyed the competition
Competition be like that.
Imagine being so good that everyone else in the world has to team up to try and beat you!
@@hobartpaving8986 oh man that's some perspective. Matthias went fucking John Wick mode on this game!
So he missed 32/32 by:
-24 hours
-half a cart
-0.03 seconds
That is tough.
It's discouraging, but him sticking around for as long as he did shows tenacity. Maybe he'll get it one day, but he'll have to drive like a god to do it.
If anyone can do it, it's him. But I can see how getting so close so many times only to be foiled at the last moment would start to get under your skin.
@@AndrewBlechinger I think he should've played the long-game smarter and grinded those 2 hardest ones until he got those records, not post them until he was 30/32, and then post them for the guaranteed 32/32
@@natenatenate10 I don't have a clue, but I feel like there is some sort of ruling about not keeping wr secrets on purpose over a long period of time without them being invalidated.
@@natenatenate10 while i'm kinda mixed on the keeping wr's a secret thing, I totally agree he should have attacked dk jungle and moo moo farm since for long periods NOBODY was on on his level.
30 minutes into this video and I'm dead set on believing that his whole pattern of getting to 31/32 and then taking the summer months off to let everyone grind up and take his records was just a really genius way to keep the community alive and active and full of friendly rivalries.
If that is true then its a really solid move. Cant say I believe it but I dont think its impossible too.
This Would be so incredibly badass
i'd believe it. germans are nice like that. that or he was just travelling or whatever.
He could have had a summer job or something. But I think some of it probably was he was daring them to beat him. Otherwise he could have just hidden his best times until he had them all.
I think you're right Jav, although the idea of hiding strats is thought of kind of badly and hiding records is in a similar vein.
So from what I'm reading in the comments, Dan hid his world records until he posted them all at once, getting 32/32 and essentially making himself the villain. Destroying matthias' dreams and turning the fandom against him. That's uh, that's rough.
like we wouldnt be so mad if he like... hid the last 2, because he felt he was close to the last one, but hiding almost 10 ENTIRE WORLD RECORDS is well, rough.
@@plutonicattic7995yeah fr Matthias would've had them all before the alliance even started if hoarding was okay
@@plutonicattic7995 rough... that's just sad.
Hoarding is one thing and in poor taste
Breaking Matthias’ spirit he deserves all the fires in hell
@@PJOZeus yeah, i understand it now.
Nobody's bringing up how generous it was for Matthias to post his records one at a time as he got them, instead of all at once only after getting the 32.
This goes to show how much he cared about genuine competition, being truly the best at the game instead of using tricks, and pushing the game as much as possible. Pretty awesome.
Frankly, I would've been okay with him suddenly dropping the "whoops, I have 32 now" bomb on everyone.
Lmao facts I wouldn’t have said shit 🤷♀️🤷♀️
so true! he intentionally chose to play this like a big clunky raid boss because he cared! after like 5 years of this theres no way he didnt consider the "Whoops got em all" strat but he just chose not to use it because the guy had serious convictions
@@Happy-TeeF keep in mind, the community is incredibly tightly knit. if Matthias did that, it’d almost certainly be seen as a huge betrayal. Dan actually did that to get the champion title and it was hugely frowned upon
whoops, meant to reply to the other guy
@@CowMaam i dont mind getting replied to thats a fair counterpoint, i guess its possible that he didnt use this strat out of fear of backlash, it mightve sullied the victory too. All things worth keeping in mind i think
This video in a nutshell
"Matthias was at 31/32"
_"but then"_
So truuue
8 times!!
That's pretty much every video on this channel lol
*Matthias' record gets broken*
Matthias: "Oh no! Anyway..."
Thx for ruining the vid. This should not have all these likes
@@xct8129 How is that comment ruining the video?
You know you're legendary when you're treated as a raid boss in your community.
Imagine living with a health bar over your sight, but your name is over it, reversed so that the other can see it normally
My thoughts exactly. This whole story has the ebb and flow of a raid, and even if he never gets 32/32, it's insane that anyone could be that singularly threatening.
Ah, that takes me back to when WoW had that Ag-something guy who blocked off stranglethorn vale all the live long day by himself for months and people wrote guides on escaping him XD
My respect for Matthias after this video: 📈📈📈
respect for Dan: 📉📉📉
@@syylentrespect for dan:📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📈📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📈📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉
I felt genuinely sad for Matthias, I was desperately waiting for that sweet "We're finally landing" at his last crushed 32/32. I really hope he'll get it, even if it's just to lose it the next hour, the achievement is waiting to be done.
Me too.. the whole time I was rooting for A1A because I was sure he would ultimately get 32/32.. but when I realized that wouldn't be the case I just got sad for the guy. Seems like he was a good sport and 100% deserved it.
This is a god damn anime
i was cheering for matthias at the end; i wanted him to have it even if they took it back those 2 seconds of glory would've been amazing
@@The_Holy_Wooomy I literally yelled out loud "this is an anime" while listening to this in my car. I have never before used the term nor do I watch anime
We have mirrored pfps
This video was a rollercoaster. Not gonna lie, the ending kinda broke my heart :(
He sounded so chill and cool. I would have lost my mind at so many points of his journey.
@@eel900 tbh the 31/32 he had a few times already is godly.
It motivates me to see that he himself did not break. He just keeps going. Even if he held 32/32. I genuinely believe that his comebacks are way more impressive than actually achieving the WR total.
One of your absolute best 💪
agreed, this video was amazing
um hello
Anybody make a minecraft speedrun history video yet?
I didn't expect you to watch a mario kart speed run
Hank.
Matthias is an actual legend, the amount of skill needed to hold 31/32 records, AND take back ones he lost within weeks is insane. It’s a shame some people felt the need to go out of their way for a scummy, hollow victory
dan technically did it fair _or did he do it nonlegit_
@@craigdavies2598he technically did it fair, it wasn’t against any rules, but it was a dick move
@@craigdavies2598 What he did was very Unsportsmanlike. He got it legit but he hoarded and refused to Post the Runs in order to keep people, Matthias in particular, from challenging his world records, until he had them all and posted them all all at once. It's like Whispering in Marco Polo. It's not cheating, but goes against all fairness and people will be rightly pissed at you for doing it.
@@TaksytheGynoid They still could of beat his records
@@rieldebonk1044he did, but it doesn't change the scuminess. dan will forever have the title of being the first player to hold 32/32 records, and that's never gonna change even if mattias has retaken several records back. dan took a legendary title away from people who truly deserved it by being too much of a coward to do it competitively yet fairly
"He was back up to 31/32. Time to finish the job."
*sees there are 16 minutes left in the video*
Huh... probably not quite yet.
I absolutely love when we get to see “returning” characters in the Summoning Salt Cinematic Universe. Something about the screen sliding over and seeing “VAJ” on the left put a big smile on my face.
It's so weird, it's like when you're watching a TV show and you see a character from an older one-off episode make a reappearance.
"VAJs BACK BABY"
like seeing Matt Turk or Hotarubi again
VAJ is like that quirky character that is not the best in pure skill but his way of being more than makes up for it.
No joke when I saw Abney I almost dropped my damn laptop.
The alliance: *spent months grinding to get a new WR*
Matthias literally 0.0000003 seconds after: "back at you buckaroo"
[Covered in sweat] We did it, we got one ba-
Matthias - Check this out lads
Mario Kart is only good for the battles. Racing is unfair. Diddy Kong Racing is SUPERIOR
OMG! I BEAT THIS WR! LETS GO 30/32 LETS GO!
Matthias: hello guys sorry to interrupt but
It’s insane that this one man battled the entire community and almost managed to win all records several times. He’s the true king of Mario Kart 64.
31:00 *Abney beats Matthias in KD*
Matthias: "Oh no!"
Matthias: *beats him back*
Matthias: "Anyways."
That but like 5 times
Summary of the entiery video
Also at 1:00 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 6:00 7:00 8:00 9:00 10:00 11:00 12:00 13:00 14:00...
Germy Clackson
What they did tohimwas just plain cruel and unsportsmanlike. It's bullying.
Just imagine being so dominant in a game that all the other players have to join and work hard for 5 years just to somehow hold a single solitary record out of 32. Hats off to Matthias
Difference: 1 frame
I’m getting chills over a game I don’t play
Lol
Saaamee
I literally get goose bumps every video he posts
You hate to see it
Best description of a Summoning Salt video
Salt should really make a sequel about this, and about how the whole mk64 community went from seeing Mattias as an arch rival and to keep him from achieving perfection. To standing by Mattias’ side and sticking up for him after what Dan did.
hell no, this channel really doesn't need that kind of drama
Yeah it’s not worth bringing it up, people will just argue in the comments about how it’s not cheating.
It was though, Mattias had everyone working against him because he was posting all these wrs, all he had to do was beat all 32 secretly and post it and there you go but because he was being honorable everyone else was able to take down prior records before he did it. If he didn’t announce no one would be trying as hard to beat those records.
That’s what Dan did, he was able to take advantage of hiding it since everyone was focused on the records mattias was going for instead of the ones he secretly beat.
It started as a guy taking on the rest of the community and then Dan comes in and nullifies all of that, it’s weak. Hoarding isn’t a big deal on its own, but when someone is trying to take all 32 and you knowing that if you hide it means that no one will try to beat those records until you post it, that’s just lame and should discourage anyone from ever attempting to take every record like this.
“Moral of the story is, Matt took a half measure when he should have gone all the way… no more half measures Dan”
@@joro8693 hey! Curious bystander here... I could gather some of the context from your comment, but could you elaborate on what exactly happened? What did Dan do?
@@underworld13 okay so basically here’s the context
Mattias originally was going for taking all the records, he announced this, because he did many other players, including Dan, decided to stop him from doing it. Every time mattias would break a record he would show it the minute he did it.
Now Dan, knowing how hard they were making it for mattias decided to do a bunch of records but not announce them, the reason being is so no one would bother taking them or working on them since no one knew the record was beaten and mattias would have no reason to take that record back. So he stockpiles a ton of records and releases them all at once in order to not have to deal with the competitive aspect like mattias did.
He didn’t want to go through getting all the records the same way mattias did, this wouldn’t be a big deal except he was part of the group that was thwarting mattias and it just made for a lame story.
It’s one thing to take all records while fighting the whole community.
It’s another to just say surprise i took all the records and you have no chance of stopping me because I took that competitive edge away from a community that’s about being competitive.
Aka speedrunning
That’s why people hate what Dan did, hope that explains it.
Matthias was actually just making sure the community kept being active
it seems like a worthelss and toxic speedrunning community that they would gang up against someone like that
@@Steve-in1sb Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the mentality of speedrunning.
If I was aiming for an achievement like that, I'd want to be fought every step of the way because it just wouldn't feel like I'd earned it if they hadn't. The challenger versus the community is how this is supposed to work.
@@daredaemon8878 yeah, but this doesnt mean that opponents should go easy on you for you to get the record. it just seems unfair that a whole community would gang up against you.
@@CreeperShorts If you want to be better than everyone else then why is it surprising that everyone wants to prove you wrong?
It seems like friendly rivalry. They usually congratulate each other for any new record. Also Mathias is not trying to get an "untied WR", he may tie old times like the Moo Moo one. So he basically shows he can replicate the best times. Others can reach this too and get the tied 32/32.
Here to pour one out for Matthias due to his retirement. Thank you MR, you were a true speedrunning legend.
Dan has 32/32 👀
@@mowingthelawn8209p
@@mowingthelawn8209 no one cares tbh. he did it in the scummiest way possible. there's a reason Matthias stole the records one at a time.
@@luminatron what did he do that was scummy?
@@SHADOWSTRIKE1 look at other comments replies
the last tumble was legit painful to watch. I was rooting for him this entire time, and I seriously hopes he comes back and finishes the job. You got this, dude!
I was about to shed a tear no joke
I was so sad, he was so close so many times but he couldn’t get the final push
I was too... but he still can do it and if not him then another. What's really important is how he brought new life into a community thats still going.
I gasped
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough hes got 19 WR's now... wow
Throughout watching the whole video I'm thinking "wow it would have been so easy for this guy to just break all the records privately and release them all at once, he's really doing this the hard way." MFW I read the comments. 😮
Nobody's going to make a video about Dan except to shit on him. Dan might've held all the records, but nobody cares because of the way he did it. Now millions of people know the name Mattias Rustemeyer and Dan's exploits will fade from memory far quicker than the unbelievable competition this video showcased. The records are beside the point. The thrill of the competition is what makes this story so intriguing and so human. Mattias is the GOAT, simple as that.
@@domskillet5744 It's human because it combines envy, jealousy, power, our limits, and your own self-control. MR is cool. Dan bad, duh. A1A is cool but it pissed me off that it had to be branded that way.
THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING
@@domskillet5744in fact we just all remember Dan but for the wrong reason. As a sore loser who couldn't handle the competition because he's not as good as Matthias and did it the sleazy way just so he can hold that title. No one GAF about him and won't ever respect him again. Much like other legit cheaters he's been shunned, even if he didn't cheat his time he did cheat the leaderboards. And that is completely unacceptable.
I think it's a framing thing. Matthias wanted 32/32 to prove he was the best player across the board, but Dan hoarding records to prevent people from challenging him shows that he didn't actually want to be better than everyone, he just wanted the title of being 32/32.
I feel sad for matthias
I thought Mr. Salt did a very good job at making you cheer against Matthias in the beginning, but by the end you (or at least I was) were rooting for him.
I almost cried at that tumble dude...
I am not sure which is better Mattias staying at 31/32 or getting 32/32.
Me too, but I feel.more embarrassed for the rest of the mk64 players that had to collectively team up against q person who was clearly head and shoulders above the rest of them
Man... same. Got so close so many times, just to be beatten again and again. It's kind of a miracle that he kept going for so long...
Matthias has brought that community together in a way that no one else probably could. His ability to push the boundaries and set records probably gave many players a new goal to strive towards, to beat the unbeatable.
I think Matthias must have appreciated the challenge too; he never held back anything from the others within the community, even going so far as to let people know he was taking a break. I think he will always continue to strive towards the 32/32, but his legacy is much more than that at this point.
yeah Matthias definitely is the hero of the community and should be praised as such. Imagine one person inspiring so many others to be their absolute best they can be at the game.
He is like the thanos of mk64 speedrunning
Without the quest for 32/32 and without the subsequent forming of the A1A to stop said quest, MK64 would've been much less interesting to watch and follow. I think the game and community enjoyed an upswing thanks to the insane action.
Of course it is sad that he didn't get it, because let's be real, HE DESERVED IT after that total domination, but the community as a whole and any people aspiring to get into karting should be grateful he didn't get the 32/32 because that means that maybe the chance will present itself again for someone, who knows it might even be MR clutching it.. It's like that saying goes, "9th time's the charm" right? :)
You know, this really shows just how many amazing stories there are hidden deep in these fanbases. This was an absolute rollercoaster, yet hardly anyone outside the Mario Kart 64 speedrunning community has ever heard of it!
This might be your best work yet. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time, wondering what would happen next and how it would end.
My knuckles have dents in them because my teeth were lodged in them the whole time. Rarely have I been captivated by anything like this before. Salt is a true artist
Nothing will beat Choco Mountain, in my opinion.
Man, I was about to leave a comment almost exactly like this. The way Summoning Salt presented the story was just so beautifully done, I definitely agree it's probably my favorite of his work yet.
People are hating Dan because what he did wasn’t illegal or anything. However, it was unsportsmanlike and it left a bitter taste in everyone’s mouth. I still find Matt’s 31/32 more impressive than Dan’s 32/32.
well i mean, hearing it from the comment section is a lot easier to bear than knowing how it actually went down.
dan kept almost a DOZEN world records private, not just like 3. it wasnt just unsportsmanlike, he made it seem like he was still stuck in the mid 20s, not 29 or 30, but like 24 records.
@@plutonicattic7995he didn’t hide the last dozen, he went from like 10 to 20 or so (MT had 10 uncontested, plenty more were tied)
Think, not sure - either way it broke his spirit and with the biggest competition out the way, and most of the community having a bitter taste in their mouth they just avoided him
What did Dan do?,
@@masterofdoots5965he hoarded records, as in didnt post him hitting them, so it made matthias unable to properly defend them, doing this is strongly looked down on in most speedrunning communities
@@vehemence. In other words Matthias Rustemeyer aka MR deserves is the real GOAT (because of his humility and dedication), not Dan Burbank who ruined the iconic moment to obtain MR's 32/32 before he reaches it. What a bad winner and a jackass. Sorry for insulting at someone it's frustrating and i'm frustrated but he deserves to be marginalized...and abney I respect him but he's not like MR and he will never be.
The amount of “but thens” in this run is heart pounding lol
it's also heart breaking
@@Beerfazz Completely agreed, the last one made me sad lol.
Amazing video from SS, I knew the facts of course but the way of presentation is top level. For the period of the quest in this video (until end of 2018), I had big respect for all the other players who formed the A1A and it was indeed their right to defend and make 32/32 the ultimately hard goal which only feels genuine to achieve against active opposition. If you followed the scene in 2020, you'll know that I lost respect for 1 particular A1A member, but during all 31/32 occasions it had been a fair game with sportsmanship on my side as well as the others' - the only way to write such a thrilling history in my opinion.
You truly did a phenomenal job! That record is absolute astonishing! It’s also really nice to see how much you guys all respected each other :) Good luck as you continue your quest to 32/32!!!
You are the best dude. Also Im curious, who did you lose respect for and why?
Edit: 31 wr is great I have been trying to get 1 in mario kart ds but I cant even come close ;-;. Im like 3 seconds slower than the wr, which is a lot in mario kart. This game takes speedrunning to a hole different lvl. In mc wr are beaten by several seconds, but in mario kart is by 0.001 seconds sometimes. In mc nobody even counts anything smaller than a second
Fantastic effort nonetheless, hope you can accomplish your goal someday!
You’re an absolute legend, man. There’s no way I would have been able to pick myself up and keep fighting after getting so close so many times and go at it again
Can there be multiple pinned comments at once ? If yes this needs to be.
You're a goddamn legend, man.
Alternate title: 47 minutes of hearing how a speed runner kept getting blue balled.
Dont you mean blue shelled
it's called edging and it's art
mario kart and the perpetual cock block
@@joeyoverstreet4431 shit I was going to say that
blue balled is the stupidest term to exist
Came back 2 years later to say.
Screw Dan
What a masterpiece. I felt myself rooting against Matthias and then rooting for him, only to be heartbroken when he came so close the final time. I hope he can get 1.000 at some point. He deserves it. Amazing video.
Sam Parker yeah same legit was rooting for the alliance the entire video until the end.
That is what makes this good cinema.
It gets you involved !
I feel the same! But the community must continue to fight as hard as they can to prevent it, because simply letting him take it would be an empty victory.
They're making him fight for it. It'll be that much more sweet in the end.
@2d fighter fan same
Just that fact that everyone had to team up to fight a single individual is a victory for MR
This is what the people saying the a1a are jerks are missing. Even with an alliance to stop him, with the best of the best actively trying to stop him, he maintained a major dominance over almost all the tracks.
@@Arkouchie Still an incredibly shitty thing to do. His dominance doesn't change that
I think all the world record holders, at one point or another, are legends to me. I salute this type of discipline.
@@niismo. thats just competition. Its not shitty, its just competitive. Wouldnt have been rewarding to get 32/32 if no one competed with him
@@niismo. You do understand though, he literally said "I am going to be the absolute best player of this community" by announcing his challenge for 32/32, of course, the entire community would try to prevent that.
I love how success for the community was slightly less than total dominance.
I don't know about you, but sometimes you just gotta make do knowing even gods can bleed.
US politics in a nutshell
Check please
Truly the Lewis Hamilton of this game.
Objective: Survive
Matthias was like John Wick against the entire community. Mad respect.
If Wick died at the end of every movie.
@@brothirwell you saw John wick chapter 4 right?
"This runner's name was VAJ"
_lower speakers volume_
*covers phone speaker with finger*
Sylvain M HAHA
Some scientists actually hypothesize that the Big Bang was actually just VAJ celebrating after getting a WR.
*y e s*
This comment made me involuntarily snort, so you get my upvote.
this guy can make me care about something i didn't know existed 3 minutes ago
That's exactly why I subbed
Bro u spittin facts
Same
I know, the videos are absolutely top tier
TRUE
You left out the part where the runners discovered an ancient mesoamerican tomb with inscriptions on the walls noting that Matt Turk held all 32 records, with better times than today's runners, 300 years ago.
You forgot the part where sinister1 beats Matt and the tas for the WR.
You forgot the part where he did it unblindfolded
Man, hearing about what happened after this video is pretty sad. Dan was the guy who took the title of "world record holder" too seriously and ended up ruining the competition for everyone, including himself and the A1A he was a part of. Shame.
It kinda ruins the video for me knowing the context of what happened after
What did he do?
@@TheLateMrBonesHe got every world record but kept it a secret and only posted it after he got 32/32
I think this is the first underdog story I’ve ever seen where I’m not quite sure which side is the underdog
It’s clear to me who is the underdog it’s MR The alliance was made up of many and many good players and Matthias was only one dude trying to challenge them Underdog story for the underdog Ends up losing
@@bluekirbyrocks
But MR was so dominant he was able to get his WRs back in a matter of hours, even though he had to grind multiple stuff at the same time. No amount of good players was enough to truly stop his dominance. Seriously, he's so OP that he looks like a super villain, so I can't blame those who think A1A were the true underdogs. Some sort of Thanos vs Avengers.
In my eyes, it's a bit of both. A1A looked like underdogs during the second or so 32/32 prevention, but after that, MR felt way too human to not be the underdog. The system started to seem rigged against him and the system can't be the underdog.
@@calamorta I agree, I think the skill was always there in the community but had grown complacent, and MR came in and showed how much more everyone could grow. I honestly love stories like this where the community kind of starts to think "We've hit the upper limit all we can do is optimize a bit" and then someone just breaks down the door and shows there's more room to improve than anyone was thinking.
both are
This story is about an anime protagonist against the world
It's so easy to forget when watching these clips that this isn't way in the past, and might still be going on. The crappy graphics and the summoning salt aesthetic make it feel like some strange forgotten memory. This was like... 2 years ago. Wild
Summoning's presentation style is like a dream, an absolutely timeless experience that if he didn't reference games and technologies released in specific times and talk about dates, it could be from any era.
@@kenb2957 It totally does feel like a fever dream, just a weird feeling that you can't escape but is somehow nostalgic. I think that's what keeps me coming back and watching these videos that I really don't care about at all and become invested
And that’s why SummoningSalt makes the best video game documentaries on UA-cam :)
This is like the spiritual successor to "The Quest to Beat Matt Turk"- The Quest to Beat Absolutely Everyone
It's a spin-off
(The quest to stop god)
The quest to become Matt Turk
The alliance was formed to prevent Mathias from humiliating them, but the very act of forming an alliance against one man, is humiliating in itself in my opinion. That man was pure heat
I was thinking this exact thing the whole time. I’m not mad at individuals trying to take records since that’s the whole point, but that mindset of “it would be embarrassing to let him show us up like that, so let’s band the entire community together to try to fight back the looming threat of one guy” is equally embarrassing if not more so than him just getting the 32/32
It was a fun alliance. I really liked abney hes kinds like the underdog in the story with many allies but none can match at the bleakest of times. Matthias is like an overpowered monster and abney smh clutched at every important moment to stop the monster. 😂😂
Overall they are crazy plays
@@tygrenvoltaris4782even so they still formed a alliance meaning they all had to work together to stop one guy which kinda sucks, itd be better if it was individuals cause then in a group just downplays their skill
@@JimmyBusher I kinda disagree they're all extremely skilled which is WHY they're able to hold him just barely away from total domination they aren't co-op tracks they're just all coordinating what they're good at and doing what they'd do anyways as a team instead
@@jplayzow I see your point but the fact they're all so skilled yet they all have to coordinate everything together to stop one person still to me downplays them as a whole,if it was individuals it'd make for a more intresting story with how one person had to go through hurdles with other people who individually wanted to stop him and he just had to overcome them one by one. Any one not from the community just kinda hears that one guy was going for wr then really good players had to band up against him just because they couldn't do it alone, it just downplays them no matter what.
5:36 "That runner's name... Was VAJ"
Me: "Huh, that name sounds familiar, where have I heard that befo-"
VAJ: "5:47"
Me: "Oh, yeah, that guy"
This VAJ callback is almost as jaw-dropping as the Matt Turk callback a few videos ago
To this day I *still* expect to hear Matt Turk namedropped every video.
@@warhawk3972 Heard of a guy called David Wonn?
I find his celebrations cringy not epic ^^
It truly is sad when something this fantastic doesn't come to pass.
By 24 hours. By one frame. By half of a cart width.
I feel so sad about this. He deserved that perfect rank, if only for a single moment.
Well, he still plays MK64... Maybe someday in the future the epic 32/32 will happen
If you think about it it was something like 5 against 1, and they could specialise in just a few tracks each. Matt did the most work, so sort-of deserved the 32.
@TomPen94 You know none of them actually hated each other, right? It was all for the sake of improving the World Record times on each track and for some good fun competition.
@TomPen94...yeah nah ur turning it into something it isn't. Matthias knew he was leagues ahead, it's speedrunning, the vast majority of people doing it do it for the competition, fun, and love of their game. it wasn't this clique bullying one guy and not letting him sit at their lunch table.
@TomPen94 this is basically the same as The Quest to Beat Matt Turk. Nigga hold all WRs on all my maps but was beaten by several dedicated people. *Truly the mighty have fallen.*
I'm heartbroken for MR. He is such a good sport. Nothing against A1A. They did their thing which was great too, and MRs run wouldn't have been nearly what it was without them. This story couldn't have been made without A1A. But man, 7 times to be so close. Its like Jim Kelly losing 4 straight Super Bowls.
oof
just had to make that comparison
except he had the entire community against him :sob:
@@azophi I don't see your point. What part of my comment are you addressing?
He was trying to beat the whole community, so yeah, naturally he's aligned himself against them.
When SS kept describing 31/32 and not getting all the way, I kept thinking about Jim Kelly!
Funny to think Matthias probably could have gotten 32/32 If he had just not published the last couple records until he secured them all
Him being at 31/32 at any point would give the other runners way more incentive to cut him off
Though it would’ve kinda been a dirty move
Good sportsmanship on his part big time
That sounds like well-deserved shade directed at someone...
@@mahbluebird actually it wasn’t, found out what happened after writing that… what a shame
@@mmvva174 what an insane cowinkydink that you and one of the people in this video had the same idea!
I’m sure it also fucking sucked seeing all your hard work go up in flames in a tenth of the time
But he really is a cock for what he did (Dan)
I still respect MR’s perseverance towards keeping up with everyone even nowadays as there’s even MORE new strategies found even in 2020.
MR was SO close to perfection many times, but someone yanked it away at the last moment every opportunity.
Just goes to show how much depth a game like MK64 can still have.
Your videos on WR’s in depth have become some of my new favorite videos to listen to Summoning Salt.
I find MR's dedication legendary and he single-handedly drove the mk64 tt community to new heights. Much respect to all.
Never felt so personally attached to a person playing a game older than me for thousands of hours. Really sucked rooting for Mathias and knowing that he never got what he was gunning for. Speaks volumes about how well the video was put together
Your making it sound like he died. Did he die 😥?
@@garnetBUNNIES Nope! He's actually still running mk64 too. ua-cam.com/channels/iwTW8_xOpub-McHieAsQrw.html is his channel
I find it funny to imagine Matthias seeing low-poly cows and moles in his sleep
[COUNTRY MUSIC IN MIDI FILES INTENSIFIES]
He would probably see the fence and course border in his dreams more than the cows
No, he'd dream the dancing polish cow as a side-effect of seeing cows for so long.
lol.....just lol
They're not even polygons they're flat textures😂
mad respect to matthias for holding his own against an entire community grinding day and night while still taking breaks
Mattias: *makes the most minor mistake, misses 32/32*
"I feel my heart crack."
Also speaks to how amazing this mini doc was edited. Who would of thought a Mario Kart time trial would break my heart today?
Dan: *Decides to hoard 15 World Records, and dump it at once*
Matthias: ‘I’m done with this, I’m out.
1 frame
One of the most oddly poignant speedrunning stories I've heard. I am glad that it didn't end up with one side just "letting the other side win", or else it would not have felt earned in the end. And besides, time still marches on!
Well said, sir. And may I add, I've been watching you play for years, and you're one of the best sports, and always kind to your competitors.
Is that the legendary NCS?
Yeah if there is no competition, getting the wr means nothing
for me i would have not just "let him have it" more so, allow him to reach it. Even if I had a time that beat one of his records, i would not submit it, allow him to have the 32/32... and then post my record. The reason for that is it was his ambition. The A1A was trying to stop him from getting 32/32, and I get that. But i was rooting for him to get 32/32, even as a challenger, i would still root for him given how close he was. I would gladly smash his records if i could, but I would let him keep hope and get to the 32/32 (Trust me i know what it is like to have that ambition and then have that ambition lost. Having people out to get you.
I think people have a problem with the intent that it seems the A1A had. They weren't just playing the game and getting wr's all the time. They actively planned on how to keep him from getting it.
Me before watching: _"I know nothing of this man"_
Me after watching: _CRYING_
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@@rowcookie3925 he talking bout mathias
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MR became a legend, while Dan is just some speed runner. True hero’s and legends are sometimes tragic, but that makes them not a bit less legendary. MR is one of the few in the speedrunning pantheon, right next to Matt Turk.
“And that was the FOURTH time”
Me: HOW ARE THERE 20 MINUTES LEFT?
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@@impazie na he creates content from information spread over multiple years
@@azophi You got banned from our discord lmao -cs gang
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The only thing that would make this greater is if Dan or Abney went on an insane record breaking run and Mattias came back to join the Alliance to stop one of them from getting 32/32. This is already a Netflix quality gaming documentary though. Just so fun to watch.
"You were supposed to stop the 32/32, not try it yourself!"
"From my point of view the alliance is evil"
"You have become the very thing you swore to destroy"
I 100% thought abney was gonna do it. He could I bet.
I mean.... Dan technically did, but in one of the most controversial ways.
For a bit of info on that, I recommend ManyKudos' "The Many Scandals of Mario Speedrunning".
This is literally the reverse story of the Matt Turk video... becoming the champion opposed to bringing them down
I feel like the hoarding of records unofficially disqualifies Dan from being the king of 64.
No it doesn't, he did them in a legit way offline.
@@AkadaJr He's legitimately held the records, but in a way where he didn't have any serious competition. It's like, say, winning a Street Fighter tournament where all the top competitors in the world refused to go to, except for three, and claiming your the best in NA. Except instead of that fiasco, It's making one but only telling one really really good player from Japan, who consistently beat high level American players, on a broken version of the game, beating them and claiming you're best NA. Technically yes but not only are you an asshole for doing so, and people will rightfully be pissed at you.
@@TaksytheGynoidthat's not remotely comparable. Dan got his records all legitimately, with proof. He just hoarded them. You might think that's bad, but dont lie to make them seem worse. It reflects on you poorly.
@@TheCompleteMental "He's legitimately held the records, but in a way where he didn't have any serious competition."
The comparisons are reasonably accurate. Getting the record itself legitimately versus getting it, posting it, and getting the other records before others can take those records off you is extremely different. Thomanator definitely hyperbolized what Dan did (assuming he didn't actually claim that he's the king of 64 due to having these records), but saying "he got them legit...he just hoarded them" is similarly detached from what the *actual* win condition was.
dan still won 32/32 though which means he's the king of 64
This is such a great e-sports story because everyone is an underdog. Matthias is attempting something incredibly ambitious and likely not possible to do recreate in the future of the game’s speedruns, which makes him an underdog, but it also necessarily means everyone who competes with him is up against the best player in the community. This video definitely captures that duality, which honestly makes it one of the best speedrun histories I’ve seen
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Matthias: *hits 31 records*
Abney: No you didn’t.
Yoink
He broke more than 31.
Matthias: 31 records
Abney:
Abney is the A10 that always saves the day
This is why I don't speedrun games. If an *entire community* banded together just to stop me, I'd quit - because what's the point when the entire community is out to destroy your dream? Good sportsmanship counts for a lot, but in the end, when there's titles or bragging rights on the line, there's no such thing as heated competition that won't eventually turn toxic. For proof, just look at what Dan did after the events of this video, specifically hoarding a bunch of WR times and posting them all at once, to ensure nobody could properly challenge them, just as he challenged Mattias's. That's how Dan took 32/32, crushing Mattias's dream of being the first person to hold all of the WRs simultaneously.
I know, this story was supposed to to be an uplifting one about how one person's quest would inspire spirited competition from an entire community, but I can't help but read it as an entire community ganging up on one guy just because he had a dream and dared to pursue it with the ability to make it a reality. The A1A destroyed this poor guy, one snipe at a time, only for one of their own to then steal Mattias's dream from him, once he was too broken to continue. It feels less like good competition, and more like a mafia kneecapping a guy repeatedly until he finally gave up.
Striving to win is one thing. Striving to shut out someone else on the cusp of victory, when you have nothing really to lose, is bad sportsmanship IMO. When you're not playing to win, but instead playing to keep someone else from winning, you're not working your way up - you're punching down. The fact that Mattias held out for so long and achieved so much under an entire community holding him back, and remained a good sport about it the entire time, is positively miraculous and speaks volumes about both his ability, and his personal integrity.
There are more twists and turns in summoning salt videos than in Mario kart itself
Any time he says something like "Things seemed to be going well for ___"
I'm like "Oh no"
"But then..."
Plot twist:
Mattias actually planned everything, set himself to fail all those times so a video was made about him, waited 2 years and will now come back to finish what he started
I sure hope so...
He's just gonna wait until everyone's gotten lazy, and then drop them all at once. lol
4nt I really hope so
Yes now everyone knows about him because summoningsalt made a video and when he gets 32/32 it will be history made
He’s still working at it if you check his UA-cam channel
To anyone wondering about the latest news on MK 64 scene. In the end Mattias failed to achieve his goal. He has retired after one of his rivals, Dan Burbank, obtained all 32 world records. How did Dan manage to pull this off? For over a year Dan has been secretly gathering (or hoarding as some people say) wr times and then published (or unhoarded) them all at once. This way no one could challenge him. He also wrote an apology. Which is in my opinion a bit hypocritical since dude had over a year to consider what he is about to do.
Accomplished this way, Dan holds the champion record, but certainly not the UNDISPUTED champion record, which is what MR came so close to accomplishing
@@509734 Dan's actions completely tarnished whatever title he "earned"
It should also be added for some context that hoarding WR records is a severely frowned upon practice in speedrunning and generally considered in bad faith as you're not able to be disputed in a reasonable manner and nothing can be competed against.
It’s ironic because MR could have done the same thing but tried to be fair and open about the records
Dans comments are turned off. Doesn’t want the hate. He’s a not a true champion.
These are the kind of incredible untold stories of the internet that would otherwise be lost to time. Love the work you do SS - this one especially was an awesome ride!
Of course as soon as a german gets close to taking everything some sort of alliance forms
I think it would’ve happened regardless
@@megarat2522 And i think it was a joke.
@@northpenguins And I think nobody said it wasn't
@@aggrave790 And i think i just wanted to make sure they knew.
i love this comment
Not gonna lie, after Abney and VAJ appeared I was half expecting Matt Turk to show up as well.
I WAS EXPECTING KOSMIC AND SOMWES TO TAKE THE RECORD
That would be a battle between two gods.
"Then they found a 2002 forum post from Matt Turk listing his MK64 times..."
Come on @MK64MR you have one last push for glory in you.
And suddenly a random japanese speedrunning community with records 0.5 seconds ahead of everyone else
He had held all 32 WR at least for some space of time, very few have ever beaten him. It’s safe to say that Mathias is the best MK64 player of all time. Holding 26+ WR for years while people are actively trying to beat you, that is beyond impressive
Actually Dan has 20 records at this time and Mathias 16 so on this moment Dan is better
I genuinely cried at the end. This was inspirational to see just how far humans can go.
The most impressive thing for me is, that Matthias always posted his new records instead of holding them back.
Maybe he got multiple in a row, and only posted the one that was just enough to beat the current WR ever so slightly. No way to know for sure though.
@@TanerAybar Still he could have posted them all together after making sure he had all the records.
@@Shardnadal yeah you're right. Just shows the fair play and comradery on both sides
Funny you say that, because Dan did that recently...
I guess there's always the pride in breaking a record, you want to show it off immediately, plus, if you don't share it there's a chance someone else will beat it before you do, and you'll never actually get to hold the record.
My chest hurts after watching this. My heart goes out to Matthias and all the work he put in, though at the same time, I can only imagine how exhilarating it must be to be Dan or Abney during this time. Constantly making sure that you’re keeping the dragon at bay. I can only imagine how much fun this quest must have been and must be for everyone involved
I actually grimaced at that final bonk
You and me both
Shame him!
A puff of air came out of my nostrols reading your comment
Didn’t expect you to be here
I yelled and jumped off my chair
Dan taking 32/32 in a community built on trust and competition by deceiving the community turned what was a great competition and rivalry to one of the grimiest dirtiest rat things I’ve ever heard of. Taking a 7 year reign in such a classless way and then taking the 32/32 after the community is mainly dissolved because of your actions is disgusting and disturbing.
Edit: shows not only a clear disregard and lack of love for the community but also shows that the one thing on dans mind was his love for himself no matter how many people would needed to be stepped on. Without the backstabbing and hiding he knew he never would be able to have a chance to achieving the goals he did. For a year he meticulously planned his backstabbing, sociopathic behavior at best.
Bruh. It’s a cartoony dinosaur driving a car in a farm. Chill.
@@ritzgamez bruh its a large group of peoples hard work and dedication for well over 2 decades, taken in secret by someone who was against the idea of doing it in the first place.
@@plutonicattic7995He jumped from 8 to 22. That still gave them more time to react than any of MR’s positions, they lost to Dan.
exactly, I like how you put it this is how I feel; Mattias was having a fair challenge with everyone in the opening and having fun, it was a game of back and forth and there was excitement, thats what this whole video is about, and what Dan did is a short part of the video cause it was an act of cowardice, deciept, and betrayal to the sport and to the spirit of competition, the entire community was in a race together and he shows up out of nowhere telling everyone they lost it all at the very end, fuck Dan, that dirty rat bastard
@@thunderball11111 they have no idea it's in danger if it's hidden. Also speedrunning is built upon learning from others as much as just on your own, if he's hiding every record until the very last second it's not the same thing as posting every record as you go and taunting the community to keep up with you. They did lose to Dan but MR could have done the same thing pretty easily if he found some route or trick that got him ahead and hid it. Nobody would know what to challenge or even how.
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@@Hidden_Fern his videos are so good he deserves to get paid through ads for it
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That tumble was one of the most heart-breaking things I've ever seen.
I seriously did a sad pog
Technically Mattias was the first to hold the 32 WR, just not at the same time. He was the first to have WR's in every single Level on Mario Kart 64.
true
And he had to be the overall champion for all these years. I guess likely at the top of a most set wrs leaderboard too?
Not really cause he never beat mmf he only tied it he did beat every other record though
@@phiferpemberton8893 no, it's not
@@valentinakim9696 A tied WR is still a WR. Doesn't have to be a untied.