• Опубліковано 28 вер 2021
  • The nu-metal tier list is here! Where do nu-metal bands like POK, Korn, Mudvayne, Coal Chamber, Kittie, Soulfly, and Orgy belong? And stay tuned for part 2 of the nu-metal tier list!
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  • Finn Mckenty
    Finn Mckenty  2 роки тому +51

    Come hang out on Twitch!

    • Duane Martin
      Duane Martin 2 роки тому +1

      Check out Deadsy

    • Cowabunga135
      Cowabunga135 2 роки тому

      Loved the video finn Cant wait for the second video!

    • Duane Martin
      Duane Martin 2 роки тому

      Do you not like clean lyrics? Because.. an amazing vocalist... I think who gets no respect is the lead singer from Ultraspank.. especially..the " Progress " album

    • Beast Merc
      Beast Merc 2 роки тому

      Korns first Album was Dark and groovy.

    • Beast Merc
      Beast Merc 2 роки тому

      I use to skate to Coal Chambers self-titled. Devil Driver had some good stuff, but they're more MetalCore.

  • Zimuahaha
    Zimuahaha 2 роки тому +1002

    "Does anyone actually like these slower, quieter parts of Nu-Metal songs?" Me. I am the one. The contrast between the heavy and clean parts make the heavy parts slap that much harder.

    • Gus2n
      Gus2n 2 роки тому +86

      Me too, sometimes the chill rap verses are the highlight for me with Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park etc. That's why I like nu metal because it has a bit of everything

    • Crazy Dud 33
      Crazy Dud 33 2 роки тому +37

      He doesn't hate them as much as he claims. He says Korn is great, and most of their songs do that. I do agree that you have to do it well, though.

    • Crazy Dud 33
      Crazy Dud 33 2 роки тому +55

      Your mention of clean parts making the heavy slap harder is why I will usually defend melodeath over regular death metal, though the purists hate on that. If it is nothing but growling and blast beats the whole album, you get used to it and it just doesn't feel as intense after a while.

    • Sports Metal Bizkit
      Sports Metal Bizkit 2 роки тому +4


    • Phil Uribe
      Phil Uribe 2 роки тому +1

      Used to love em as a kid but I got really annoyed by them as I grew older.

  • EVO4 JK
    EVO4 JK 2 роки тому +224

    Mudvayne was amazing. Chad's lyrics and Ryan's bass playing was out of this world. L.D. 50, The End of All Things to Come, and Lost and Found were amazing albums.

    • Im Rockguy
      Im Rockguy Рік тому +1

      Even their self-titled their newest one from 2009 was really good

    • Rare Grime Beats
      Rare Grime Beats Рік тому +4

      Ld50 & five pointe o’s untitled hve aged gracefully

    • Goner.
      Goner. Рік тому +2

      Lost and found is a god tier album

    • Sickfitz
      Sickfitz Рік тому +3

      Brr brr deng brr brr deng brr brr deng

    • Rare Grime Beats
      Rare Grime Beats Рік тому +3

      @Sickfitz nu metal at its best

  • LeeStaggers25
    LeeStaggers25 2 роки тому +231

    "Korn's drip is Untouchable" I see what you did there Finn lol

    • Dave Richards
      Dave Richards 8 місяців тому +19

      I would have issues with him if he didn't.

    • Christian Hackl
      Christian Hackl 8 місяців тому +3

      @Dave Richards I also see what you did *there* 👀haha

    • Main's Main
      Main's Main 8 місяців тому +15

      @Christian Hackl I mean it's pretty obvious, you would have to be Blind to not see that

    • the_padzer
      the_padzer 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@tiagovalen good god, you're great at this

    • Wallace Shawn
      Wallace Shawn Місяць тому +1

      You know all these other nu metal bands Follow The Leader

  • Kenny Houser
    Kenny Houser 2 роки тому +47

    Speaking of Mudvayne, Ryan Martinie deserves even more credit than he already gets. His influence is seen all over the metal scene. Everywhere from Metalcore on down to Tech Death. He made bassists actually leading songs instead of just playing whatever root notes the rhythm guitarist is playing a thing. His playing is where my liking of their music begins and ends. I can think of at least 12 riffs I've made myself in that style.

  • Aaryaman Nambiar
    Aaryaman Nambiar 2 роки тому +122

    Finn: "Korn has 5 albums in the billboard top 10"
    Korn: "14... but you were close."

    • Wallace Shawn
      Wallace Shawn 5 місяців тому +4

      Only 2 didn't make it... Korn & Requiem

  • Daniel Seale
    Daniel Seale 2 роки тому +225

    That Mudvayne-Dig video is legendary. You can give it shit, but if it wasn't as "cringe" as you say, it never would have got them on people's radar and really launch their careers. And it's arguably more popular now then it was back then.

    • alanomie
      alanomie 2 роки тому +3

      How the hell is Mudvayne more popular now than they were back in the dsy? I dont get it?!? I met them in Detroit and Ryan is as cool as you would think.

    • Cody's Cards
      Cody's Cards 2 роки тому +8

      Nobody remember mudvaynes famous MTV awards appearance? They were awesome to us 13 year olds

    • C M
      C M 2 роки тому +10

      A tier band for sure

    • ChainsawChristmas
      ChainsawChristmas 2 роки тому +8

      @alanomie because "brr brr dang, brr brr dang" is a meme at this point. And the internet is undefeated at spreading popularity of a meme.

    • QQyoko
      QQyoko 2 роки тому +8


  • Brad Nolan Videography
    Brad Nolan Videography 2 роки тому +620

    Mudvayne had a little bit more success than you think. When they won a VMA and wore all white suits covered in blood, that was an iconic Nu Metal moment.

    • Oops ™
      Oops ™ 2 роки тому +20

      Legit just watched that last week cause it popped into my feed lol

    • Josh Wood
      Josh Wood 2 роки тому +25

      They had songs in multiple movies as well

    • Austin Trousdale
      Austin Trousdale 2 роки тому +10

      I remember having heard new (nu) songs by Mudvayne on rock radio in late 2008, so there’s that.

    • Clay Estes
      Clay Estes 2 роки тому


    • Dustin Kern
      Dustin Kern 2 роки тому +23

      Mudvayne was just below slipknot imo in that mask wearing group ahead of mushroomhead for sure

  • liam Riddell
    liam Riddell 2 роки тому +49

    Man, Mudvayne are 100% great. You gotta listen to the entirety of L.D.50. The hype isn't false.

    • Michael Mahoney
      Michael Mahoney 10 днів тому

      Nope... nothing to gien is fuckin insane. So many great moments. Prod?!?

  • theSinisterBend
    theSinisterBend 2 роки тому +137

    Mudvayne as a whole wasn't very influential but EVERY numetal kid that played bass shit their pants the first time they listened to LD50. Hell, I was a regular guitar player and I was blown away. Ryan Martini is undeniable on bass guitar.

    • alanomie
      alanomie 2 роки тому +1

      Fucking Beast Mode! Ryan is so cool.

    • Max H
      Max H 2 роки тому +6

      I did shit my pants when I heard the bass on LD50. I had never heard anything like it and it is the reason i started playing bass

    • Kenny Houser
      Kenny Houser 2 роки тому +5

      Ryan Martinie's influence is plastered all over metal bass these days. The Jinjer bassist is a prime example. He is basically just carrying on the legacy. Before him the bassist was just "supposed to" play the rhythm root notes to give the guitars more punch. Martini could legitimately be considered the driving force in many of their songs. I know for me as a bass player, he was and still is one of my biggest influences.

    • theSinisterBend
      theSinisterBend 2 роки тому +2

      @Kenny Houser 100%. I remember me and a bass player friend of mine learning Mudvayne songs to jam together back in the early 2000's. Watching him play along to the song Dig while I played guitar I couldn't believe the fret board acrobatics he was pulling off. The regular guitar work in that song is pretty basic but the bass was next level. I'd never seen a bass played like that in metal.

    • Drew Mackintosh
      Drew Mackintosh 2 роки тому +1

      Can confirm, picked up bass in 3rd grade, discovered LD50 as a freshman in HS, now at 26 I can say without a doubt, that one album has had way more influence on my bass playing than any single other source. I picked up so many little techniques trying to emulate Ryan.

  • Bunseboy
    Bunseboy 2 роки тому +39

    Mudvayne´s LD50 is to this day the most complete album ever for me. I love every song on it, even the transitional pieces. The whole album is so cohesive, i hardly can listen to one song alone, have to listen to it from start to finish.
    You can definetly count them as New Metal, but they have so many prog elements, especially on their first 2 albums. Weird time signatures, tempo changes, song structures, interesting (imo) lyrics to fill pages.
    As many other pointed out before, Ryan had/still has a HUGE influence on metal bass players to this day.
    Saw them live like 5 or 6 times and they killed it everytime, playing always 1h+ sets, giving all they got, esp Chad who i felt was close to passing out a lotta times.
    I´m obviously biased, so im a bit salty about that b-tier xD
    Love your content tho, but please listen to LD50, im sure you´ll love it.

  • Eli Westmaas
    Eli Westmaas 2 роки тому +34

    As a nu metal kid from the 90s. I loved the clean vocals an cringe whispery parts, not gonna lie

    • XxChaotic-spitexX
      XxChaotic-spitexX Рік тому +6

      Bro I still pump this shit 20 years later likes it's fresh asf also still rocking Osiris like it's 2001

    • mid-90’s _ to _ early 2000’s ViBEZ
      mid-90’s _ to _ early 2000’s ViBEZ 6 місяців тому +2

      @XxChaotic-spitexX *HELL YEAH…!!!!* *Brother, I HOPE YOU STILL ARE.* 🙏🤜🤞

  • Mark Arandjus
    Mark Arandjus Рік тому +16

    As a Kittie fan I was ready for someone to once again talk about Kittie as Nu metal even though only a few songs on their first album were that.
    Really appreciate you showing songs like cutthroat and pointing out that they later transitioned to straight up metal!

  • Joeplaysdrums
    Joeplaysdrums 2 роки тому +63

    As a kid who grew up in a very religious home, P.O.D. was allowed because it was christian and they were honestly my gateway to finding Linkin Park and moving into heavier music as I got older. Mad respect to P.OD.

    • Daniel Broach
      Daniel Broach 7 місяців тому +3

      I found a Living Sacrifice CD at the local Berean(Christian FYE) and my parents HATED it. I bought a Christian metal DVD and my mom did take that one from me haha. "Heaven's Metal" I think it was called, it was just too "extreme."

    • SHVRKOfficial
      SHVRKOfficial 5 місяців тому +1

      Have you ever heard of seventh Angel? Their album Lament for the weary goes hard

    • Br00klyn116
      Br00klyn116 3 місяці тому +1

      This is me 💯💯💯

  • DeeCee89
    DeeCee89 Рік тому +15

    P.O.D is the best live performance I've ever seen and I saw them in 2011 after their peak popularity.

  • Pseudo Nym
    Pseudo Nym 2 роки тому +17

    Orgy's like my favorite band and I'm just happy that you even gave them a spot. It seems like they always get left out when talking about nu-metal but they had a lot going for them, especially with the aesthetics. I just wish the new Orgy lineup and music didn't seem like a complete betrayal of everything that came before it.

  • Matt Hall
    Matt Hall 2 роки тому +6

    I hated Nu Metal in high school. But the band that was certainly a part of that world that I have a soft spot for was Powerman 5000. They were kitsch and at least somewhat self aware. They were a jocks idea of what Devo was, but amusing. There were also some bands I felt were un-fairly associated with it (deftones, SOAD)

  • Without The Accent
    Without The Accent 6 місяців тому +4

    Listening to Stitches by Orgy makes me feel like they were so ahead of it’s time. Could totally see Motionless in White or Bad Omens putting up something like this

  • MXRocket Beats
    MXRocket Beats 10 місяців тому +4

    Damn, Kittie held up better than i would have expected, those riffs are actually pretty good, better guitar tone than alot of other nu metal

  • Lauri Saarinen
    Lauri Saarinen 2 роки тому +324

    I'm dying here because of how obsessed Finn is with Orgy's "giga-chad jaws" 😂
    Your commentary is some of the funniest on YT!

    • Finn Mckenty
      Finn Mckenty  2 роки тому +29

      Thank you!

    • ZL1LoVeR
      ZL1LoVeR 2 роки тому +29

      Karen meets Edward Scissor Hands 🤣🤣🤣

    • Sandra Surgiewicz
      Sandra Surgiewicz 2 роки тому +7

      I say we Go Found Finn's chin fillers lol

    • Ryan Nachtrab
      Ryan Nachtrab 2 роки тому +5

      Haha damnit, I just left a comment about this lol. I went to a little hillbilly farm school with 100 kids in each class and the girls STILL loved Jay Gordon

  • val vanzi
    val vanzi Рік тому +6

    I really like the clean parts !! It's really setting an amazing atmosphere when it's well done . Like in korn you can really feel jonathan's emotions and that's why it's interesting.

  • Joseph Cennamo
    Joseph Cennamo 2 роки тому +12

    Another all female Nu-Metal band was Jack Off Jill. Highly underrated.

    • Luke Lyall
      Luke Lyall 5 місяців тому +2

      What about otep? The singer is female

    • gmdone
      gmdone 3 місяці тому

      @Luke Lyall wow it´s been a while since I last listened to Otep , I remember it was very cool but also very cringy. I really liked when she stopped using effects on her voice in The Ascension, gotta check them again

    • 307Cavalier
      307Cavalier Місяць тому +1

      ...JOJs Agent Moulder ❤

  • Lil Mick 🐊 Dundee
    Lil Mick 🐊 Dundee 2 роки тому +4

    Ryan Martini is the greatest bass player in Metal, hands down. Glad I got to do alot of concert's from 99 to today. First time mudvayne concert was 03. Damn I'm old

  • Watch Dogg
    Watch Dogg Рік тому +3

    I still love a lot of these Nu Metal bands , Korn, Mudvayne, Coal Chamber, Soulfly , Slipknot ,Limp Bizkit…. Probably my favorites from this genre. I feel so bad for Rayna from Coal chamber. She was in the band for the first two albums and then when the band reformed like a decade later they never got up with her to see if she wanted to rejoin and for the last five years she’s been living in a group home.

  • James Deininger
    James Deininger 2 місяці тому

    Dude, Orgy rocked! Glad you gave them a spotlight. I love those 3 songs of theirs.
    It’s crazy how much money was put into music videos right up until TRL was cancelled. Music videos today don’t have nearly the cultural impact that they did 20-30 years ago.

  • yeagerzombie
    yeagerzombie 2 роки тому +226

    I want it on record that Ryan Martinie from mudvayne is one of the best bassists from this era and was part of the reason I started playing bass.

    • Jr Calero
      Jr Calero 2 роки тому +11

      Bought me a Warwick Thumb bass last week just cause of him. Ryan is an amazing musician and super humble person.

    • RCX
      RCX 2 роки тому +9

      Facts, all of them are amazing musicians. Chad is my favorite metal vocalist. I hate Hellyeah tho

    • driiifter
      driiifter 2 роки тому

      too bad hes with Fodera now.. Gotta get me a Fodera instead xD

    • d t
      d t 2 роки тому

      he’s a talented vocalist too

    • Taliesin Potter
      Taliesin Potter 2 роки тому +8

      I'd argue he's one of the best bassists period not just of the era

  • Nathanael Lucero
    Nathanael Lucero Рік тому +2

    Well, Ryan Martinie is quite influential in the bassist community. They put him up there with the greats and I can definitely hear why.

  • Oscar Robles
    Oscar Robles 2 роки тому +6

    Finn, I could definitely watch you for hours and hours talking about Nu Metal

  • Xenos N.
    Xenos N. 2 роки тому +13

    I don't even think Orgy was much of a nu metal band, their second album was pretty damn awesome I remember owning that and really enjoying it.

    • Hipster 4 Hire!
      Hipster 4 Hire! Рік тому +1

      I agree, Orgy was an industrial metal, and that is a maybe. But I love their music.

  • subpar nature documentary unexpert commentary

    soulfly was by far my favorite band from the genre, i still listen to the first two albums, the addition of the brazilian music is pretty cool, seen them live a few times in the late 90s early 2000s great live band, the one tour they had downset with them it was excellent

  • Joe Parkinson
    Joe Parkinson 2 роки тому +16

    The “backpack guy” from Soulfly was Marc Rizzo! Roy was one of their old drummers... he’s now in Stone Sour 🤘🏻

    • jarra gulla
      jarra gulla 2 роки тому +1

      He still carrying that backpack?

    • Joe Parkinson
      Joe Parkinson 2 роки тому +2

      @jarra gulla Not anymore haha. He started wearing it when he was in Il Nino and then kept it for his first few years with Soulfly I believe

    • Gemini Mama
      Gemini Mama 2 роки тому

      I saw Soulfly open for Slayer back in 2002. Can confirm no backpacks at that point, but Roy had awesome pink and black hair at that time.

  • Skip
    Skip 2 роки тому +213

    I could listen to you talk about and be excited about Nu-Metal all day everyday.

    • Matthew Erne
      Matthew Erne 2 роки тому +3

      Check out the Roach Koach podcast!

    • El chonlster
      El chonlster 2 роки тому


    • Finn Amory
      Finn Amory 2 роки тому +5

      @Matthew Erne yes dude, Roach koach is fucking essential for any Nu Metal enthusiast

      NATALACHI 2 роки тому +9

      Lol Nu Metal RULES. I don't care what anyone says

    • Hey! It's Me!
      Hey! It's Me! 2 роки тому +1

      Roach Koach is The Nu Metal MBA

  • Krystal A
    Krystal A 2 роки тому +3

    Mudvayne was and is amazing. L.D. 50 and The End of All Things to Come were phenomenal. And pretty sure if you look at the lyrics to Cultivate, it will give some insight to their name.

  • D1L4TE
    D1L4TE 2 роки тому +8

    Mudvayne's LD50 is one of the best albums ever, and live with the costumes made it even better. It's okay if you don't get it like a lot of us, but damn I think it's just awesome. It's a great way to show something visually interesting along with the great music. I seriously believe you should rethink your opinion on Mudvayne. Ryan Martinie is also one of the best bassists in the metal scene, super humble and nice guy too. Huge bass inspiration

  • Sean Holland
    Sean Holland 2 місяці тому

    16:15 Coal Chamber is one of my biggest influences, at least in my guitar playing, not so much any other instruments, but their low, speeding Drop B riffs mixed with their creepy lead guitar melodies are a huge inspiration to how I play

  • Extol 4000
    Extol 4000 2 роки тому +4

    Most people wrote off Mudvayne because of their makeup. If people gave them a chance beyond their gimmicky look- they would have seen so much talent in that band. Orgy was an awesome band that was ahead of their time. They didn’t have nu metal drip- they were in their own futuristic lane. I loved that band’s first two albums.

  • Servbot 40
    Servbot 40 Рік тому +2

    Orgy's influence was inspiring bands to make their first hit a Cover to guarantee fleeting success.

  • drummerAVA
    drummerAVA 2 роки тому +52

    I can’t think of Nu-metal without thinking about all the industrial-tinged sci-fi movies and video games of the early 2000’s. Goes together like peanut butter and jelly…

    • DBL
      DBL 2 роки тому +4

      Battlefield Earth, Queen of the Damned, man that makes me have some weird flashbacks

    • Greg Khar NÜ-METALhead
      Greg Khar NÜ-METALhead 2 роки тому +6

      @DBL Daredevil,Doom,Punisher

    • Atvena
      Atvena 2 роки тому +6

      The matrix

    • DBL
      DBL 2 роки тому +1

      @Greg Khar NÜ-METALhead big facts!

    • Sergio
      Sergio Рік тому +2

      Yes!!! This is maybe my favorite part of the nu metal aesthetic

  • Ben Wecht
    Ben Wecht Рік тому +1

    1.) I had those Fieldy shoes! They didn't last long but I loved their look
    2.) I hate that everything you say about Mudvayne isn't entirely wrong. They don't have the best curb appeal and their influence was minimal but I still love them. If you're talking musical talent they just about top any band on this list. Also, "Happy?" is their most radio-friendly but least nu-metal song, should of went with "A New Game" or "Determined".

  • Elizabeth
    Elizabeth 2 роки тому +7

    Only good thing that came out of being forced to go to youth group as a kid was my love of heavier music. POD, Thousand Foot Crutch, Switchfoot . Quickly expanded to secular rock of course but those were definitely what got my foot in the door listening to a bunch the bands that I grew up loving.

  • Papa_Gzeus
    Papa_Gzeus 2 роки тому +4

    This was hilarious, especially the drip parts
    Although I'd have to say that the part about mudvayne having no stage presence tells me that you probably never saw them live

  • Dylan Marken
    Dylan Marken 2 роки тому +3

    As I've said for years.. Nu Metal needs a come back. As someone on another channel said. Everyone in rock nowadays is either to Pop or too Metal and everyone follows the same formula.
    There's a market that has dried up and is just waiting for some Nu Metal nourishment

  • T. Maximus
    T. Maximus 2 роки тому +1

    I was into the whole new metal scene at the age of 10 in 1998.. I remember hearing coal Chambers first record and being blown away and I still think it holds up for me.

  • Paul Grossman
    Paul Grossman 2 роки тому +40

    I think the reason people (like myself) love mudvaybe is the sound. chad gray (in my opinion) is one of the most talented male vocalists out there. love his sound, incredible range, incredible control over his voice, etc. ryan is obviously one of the greatest bass players to ever grace metal music. matt is an INCREDIBLE drummer who pairs extremely well with ryan. honestly their weak point is their guitarist greg, but he’s solid and does exactly what he needs to fit the music. combine that with consistently good songs (once again in my opinion), and it becomes tough not to like them.
    at least my 2 cents.
    good video though, entertaining and inciteful as always

    • Kayle K
      Kayle K 3 місяці тому

      Feel the same way about the individual members. I really enjoyed hearing Chad’s vocals evolve throughout time on the albums. Great band all around.

    • Eric Cuevas
      Eric Cuevas Місяць тому

      They would be great, but their lyrics are F tier. Just truly awful.

    • Kayle K
      Kayle K Місяць тому

      @Eric Cuevas you’re wrong but ok

  • Detached Laconian
    Detached Laconian 10 місяців тому +3

    0:00 Intro
    1:04 Korn
    5:06 Soulfly
    9:12 Orgy
    13:51 Coal Chamber
    16:53 Kittie
    20:11 P.O.D.
    23:17 Mudvayne

  • Nicole Pisa
    Nicole Pisa 5 місяців тому

    Finn, I literally just sit here in a room by myself laughing out loud at your videos. The serotonin and knowledge I get from these videos are priceless.

  • MünchhausenMusic
    MünchhausenMusic 2 роки тому +5

    22:25 Man, I am a drum and guitar teacher, and I am SOOOO grateful.for Boom by POD! Super easy to play (drums if simplified, that is), fun and enjoyable, and man that video!!! I have yet to meet a single one of my students who doesn't like that song and video! Especially the 10-12 yo demographic really digs it. Thanks POD :D

  • r l
    r l 2 роки тому +2

    Kittie for their age were way ahead of so many groups. Watched their documentary and thier producer spoke about how tight and well rehearsed they were.

    • Luke Lyall
      Luke Lyall 5 місяців тому

      They were about the same age of the cast of that 70s show

  • Blackwasp101 Nateaconda
    Blackwasp101 Nateaconda 6 місяців тому +1

    I think HED PE is one of the top bands in this genre,and they are still putting out new music ,and touring prolifically to this day still rocking.

    • the ༼void༽ spaghetti girl
      the ༼void༽ spaghetti girl Місяць тому

      i think the number one reason is that (hed) p.e. AKA Jahred (it's basically just Jahred's vision AFAIK) is to change styles and kinda.... go with the times?
      before (hed) p.e. he sang in a funk metal band (dont remember the name but he dressed like a glam metal singer in those days - he's like 60 now so it checks out)
      he later created/joined (hed) p.e. in the 90s and the first album was straight rap metal á la Limp Bizkit's "3 dollar bill y'all " and evolved more into nu metal on subsequent albums, but incorporating a lot of reggae, funk, and hardcore punk but never letting go of the rap metal sound entirely. the 2014 and 2016 albums were heavily influenced by psychedelic rock and hard rock. then they started incorporating a lot of trap. and the latest album has a LOT of variety.
      i honestly HATE their lyrics (conspiracy theories, homophobia, raping young girls - when he's not singing about social issues or smokin weed...) and Jahred always seemed like a troubled douchebag but i honestly love (hed) p.e.'s music and have listened to them since like 2006. Jahred was always kind of making music he thought would make him cool or popular but at the same time he has a lot of artistic vision and song writing skills. which is probably the reason why they never made it as big as korn and slipknot despite being just as good music-wise. they are too eclectic/controversial for the mainstream, basically.

  • Crowd Kill Productions
    Crowd Kill Productions 2 роки тому +57

    My old band opened for Kittie in like 2007. They were good live and were cool enough to hang with us after the show. Was a good time.

    • Deven Science
      Deven Science 2 роки тому +4

      One of them now has a damn good doom band, The White Swan.

    • SoilentGr33n
      SoilentGr33n 2 роки тому +2

      @Deven Science Yeah White Swan fucking rocks.

    • Nicholas Misiak
      Nicholas Misiak 2 роки тому +1

      What was your band??

    • Crowd Kill Productions
      Crowd Kill Productions 2 роки тому +3

      @Nicholas Misiak illbred theory. Just a local band that got lucky. Was nothing big.

    • XxChaotic-spitexX
      XxChaotic-spitexX Рік тому +4

      I will defend Kittie till I die

  • Kevin Moore
    Kevin Moore 2 роки тому

    God. This whole video made my day. I haven’t laughed this hard in ages. So so so good. I feel like I could shoot the shit with Finn for hours about the nuances oh nümetal. Seriously, thank you for all of this.

  • 𝚠𝚒𝚕𝚕
    𝚠𝚒𝚕𝚕 2 роки тому +1

    I've seen every single one of these bands live.. lol.
    Actually saw Coal Chamber like five or six years ago, first tour after they reformed, with Sevendust. If you know about the history between those bands, it was pretty cool seeing them tour together.

  • goody2toad
    goody2toad Рік тому +1

    Orgy's second album was so damn good. I wish they kept that electronic sound.

  • rockeee
    rockeee 2 роки тому +2

    Completely agree Finn! Korn were my Nirvana. I was 15 when 'Life Is Peachy' came out and it hit at the right time.
    Also, we would've been great, cynical friends at school for sure. 😂
    Hey from Dublin, Ireland 🇮🇪🙋‍♂️

  • Nathan Blackmon
    Nathan Blackmon 2 роки тому +11

    Sonny had my favorite voice in this group, didn’t matter they were Christian to me. Satellite had like 4 or 5 huge songs.

    • David Theisen
      David Theisen 11 місяців тому

      Check out their Awakening album!! But Murdered Love was just about as heavy as Snuff the Punk and Brown!!

  • The Night Cap
    The Night Cap 2 роки тому +222

    As a deftones fan I’m already preparing myself to be offended in part 2 😆

    • Deven Science
      Deven Science 2 роки тому +11

      ha. I just commented basically the same thing.

    • Bear Tow
      Bear Tow 2 роки тому +5

      To be fair, we're horribly abusive lol

    • MeowTheRainbowX
      MeowTheRainbowX 2 роки тому +7

      I’m glad he’s gonna finally give an opinion on them and SOAD without being forced to make whole videos.

    • Spencer
      Spencer 2 роки тому +7

      Deftones are like such a niche thing. Around the Fur is probably my favorite album of theirs, but everything after that is more commercially successful. I didn't realize that their latest album reached #5 on billboard, that's crazy. But, I don't know, it's like they exist in a vacuum. I wouldn't cite them as a big influence on a lot of things, they just carved their niche out and do it really well.

    • Beast Merc
      Beast Merc 2 роки тому +8

      I don't see a lot of toxic Deftones fans. Everybody I know that love Deftones, are genuinely nice people. I've been to 2 of their shows, got pictures of me and Chino taking in Raleigh, NC, and everyone was cool. I never try and push them on others either. I usually tell people that they might not like it, and if they do we can talk about them.

  • orkun sanal
    orkun sanal Рік тому +3

    Snot, Amen and One Minute Silence are very underrated! (I can also add old Skindred, Ill Nino and Ultraspank)

  • Gareth Bennett-Allen
    Gareth Bennett-Allen 2 роки тому +9

    The biggest influence that Mudvayne made was Ryan Martinies bass tone and technique

  • needs|LITHIUM
    needs|LITHIUM 2 роки тому

    Also, my gf and I love Mudvayne lol. Also, she loves Kitty, and the Landers sisters are HUGE influences on her, vocally, aside from the obvious picks like Tati from Jinjer or someone like Angela Gossow or Courtney LaPlante. She can sing Elastic Heart by Sia, or do Evanescence really well because she has a deeper voice for a chick, and it also helps her shock people at karaoke by singing all pretty and then she goes and screams out to Walk or Forget To Remember "like a dude" and everyone flips their lids. It's fucking great. My gf and I are both vocalists, so...

  • Kat
    Kat 3 місяці тому

    My biggest memory of Mudvayne was watching the Dig video when it first came out with my then infant son in my arms and it scared him so much he started crying histerically, and I quickly changed the channel. And every time he heard those first couple of notes he'd start bawling. Mudvayne, traumatizing boys since 2001.

  • Dom
    Dom 10 місяців тому

    When I was 14, the guitar sound in "Blue Monday" blew my mind andI started saving money for a Mesa Boogie, which I ultimately couldn't afford..
    But the riff still has one of the best guitar sounds I've ever heard, followed closely only by Dornenreich (just a very subjective opinion)

  • Crazy Dud 33
    Crazy Dud 33 2 роки тому +18

    Part of nu metal's influence is from grunge, which is why you sometimes get the quiet verses with loud chorus (which was practically a requirement in grunge). I will agree it was usually not that great, though Korn always knew how to do it right. Most of their songs do the quiet verse with loud chorus.
    I see we saved most the heavy hitters for part 2. Makes us come back for Part 2, so good hustle!

  • Michael DeAnda
    Michael DeAnda 2 роки тому +1

    I feel like I’m sometimes considered the most “musically inclined” in my group but I grew up on this and I catch so much shit for liking this era haha. I remember 3rd grade, 5th graders were practicing teaching us stuff; my 5th-grade-mentor brought up the topic of bands we like and I said Orgy without much hesitation. Even in 3rd grade, seeing his reaction made me think “oh wow I’m kinda weird.” Love the content bro.

  • Anthony Austin
    Anthony Austin 9 місяців тому

    I was very young when this stuff first came out. I remember hearing Korn's first album in 4th grade when it first came out, I was 8 years old. I remember also delivering papers to the first coal chamber album also around the same time, and Dez was a big influence on all the piercings I got. At the same time I was into bands like Pantera, Type O Negative, Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Helmet, Rammstein and the likes. I'm from the woods of Northern Maine, and music like any of this was hard to come across. It was a 60 mile drive to access a music store. Rock radio was very hard to get, mostly country. Soulfly was actually one of the first really heavy albums I actually bought and Max kind of changed my perspective of music in general. To give you an idea, I bought Creed "My Own Prison", and the debut Soulfly album. I didn't listen to that Creed album all that much after that. Long story short all these band were the beginning of my metal journey. Insomnium, Mgla, Dark Funeral, Wolfheart, Satyricon, Acid Bath, Suffocation, Dying Fetus, Amon Amarth, Electric Wizard, Ahab, Novembers Doom, Kataklysm, Isis, Opeth, Katatonia, Ne Obliviscaris, Vital Remains, Immortal, Bathory, Nile, and all of the kick ass metal I listen to today, is in part due to all this metal from this time period.

  • PeXis
    PeXis Рік тому

    I think I heard that the name Mudvayne comes from infected vein you can get from injecting drugs with a dirty needle. But yea, I still listen to Mudvayne's first thee albums all the time. LD 50 is a masterpiece IMO. Really hated how they lost pretty much everything that made them great on their last two albums.

  • Kyleicp 420
    Kyleicp 420 2 роки тому +7

    POD is so underappreciated. They were all over TRL and the radio in 2001 and 2002.

  • SoilentGr33n
    SoilentGr33n 2 роки тому

    Actually the drummer from Kittie has a really good Doomy band called White Swan. Kittie got better with age for sure including most of their side projects.

  • Jonathan Abbott
    Jonathan Abbott 2 роки тому +15

    So happy I heard the L.D.50 album from Mudvayne before seeing their music video for "Dig". I don't think I would have bothered if I saw this video first. Their song for Saw II, "Forget to Remember", is pretty damn good. "Internal Primates Forever" is their best song IMO.

  • Edgecrusher98
    Edgecrusher98 Рік тому

    Orgy were so underrated and ahead of it’s time (no pun intended), now it sounds like a recent 80’s synthwave revival but with more metal-ish approach 😳 btw Deadsy whimsically sounded close to them, but I presume they had mutual friends 🗿

  • Aaron Brothers
    Aaron Brothers Рік тому

    Soulfly is amazing!! Ripped on 'em a bit with the clean guitar riffs. Backpack filled with a qp of green.

  • Exister
    Exister 2 роки тому +2

    At my last job, the head foreman was the epitome of the new metal fan/90s mall goth (he was like 20 in 2000). He claimed that he dated the bassist from Kittie for a few months. I kinda believe him because he worked for Washburn guitars back then and had a bunch of industry connects

    • duder
      duder 2 роки тому

      what was your last job?

  • Tony Thomas
    Tony Thomas Місяць тому

    This Kittie fan is so disappointed that they didn't get B tier at the very least. I was lucky enough to see them live twice, the Until The End and Funeral For Yesterday tours. The lineup of Morgan, Mercedes, Tara and Ivy did four shows in 2022, let's hope for more new music and tours in the future. R.I.P. Trish Doan.

  • E-Line Co
    E-Line Co 9 місяців тому +1

    Korn was huge when I was growing up being a 90s kid, and I still like the original stuff they came out with so I agree they were cultural and sound impact we received similar to Nirvana

    • Wallace Shawn
      Wallace Shawn 5 місяців тому

      Yep, they made heavy music platable to the masses again. Love them or hate they deserve credit.

  • Only The Strong
    Only The Strong 2 роки тому +73

    I'll always love Nu-Metal. If I had kids it'd be my embarrassing Dad music. Right now it's just my embarrassing Uncle music.
    Edit - Coal Chamber are unironically one of my favourite bands. I genuinely used to dress like that in the early 00's.

    • KoolerKaida
      KoolerKaida 2 роки тому +2

      lmao, I kinda dig coal chamber's style. their music is perfectly heavy and the crazy outfit styles that they did were not *too* cringey.

    • LeadMe2TheBliss
      LeadMe2TheBliss 2 роки тому +2

      I saw them live a few times back in the day. CC were a good band but they certainly were no Korn or Deftones, they kind of ripped off Korns sound, but they were a good live band!

    • Kandy KoRn
      Kandy KoRn 2 роки тому +2

      Their album dark days is top tier nu metal

    • Austin Trousdale
      Austin Trousdale 2 роки тому

      @Kandy KoRn How Finn talked about them for about 5 minutes without even a snippet of “Fiend” baffled me.

    • Wallace Shawn
      Wallace Shawn 5 місяців тому

      People tend to forget about Coal Chamber.... Snot too

  • driiifter
    driiifter 2 роки тому

    As a connoisseur of female fronted or female metal/punk bands, I have to say Kittie was decent. Their stuff from early 2000 was in my disc player. When they go gothic, they sound good.

  • atlys
    atlys 2 роки тому +4

    Oh my god that bit about "seeing someone in Fieldy shoes at a bus stop near a methadone clinic" had me screaming 🤣🤣

  • Real 30 Year Old Boomer Hours
    Real 30 Year Old Boomer Hours 2 роки тому +1

    Soulfly have some sick riffs and mosh parts. Definitely underrated IMO

  • Kristi
    Kristi Рік тому

    Best genre outside of alternative you can do this tier List on. Thank you so for doing it !! I LOVE grunge music and always will. I was born in 1976 after all. I’m old now!! You now know my age!!

  • Pablo Lopez
    Pablo Lopez 2 роки тому

    IM EAGERLY AWAITING PART 2, this was amazing. Mudvayne should be a C tier at most

  • Don Holbert
    Don Holbert 2 роки тому +63

    Gotta say: Mudvayne is easily my favorite band out of this video, but "Happy?" is such a good song, people just give it shit because it's not as heavy. I'd still say "Lost And Found" is a good album, not their best, but definitely better than their self-titled

    • Zimuahaha
      Zimuahaha 2 роки тому +6

      Fkn love Happy.

    • Ruffin McCoy
      Ruffin McCoy 2 роки тому +3

      “Determined” is heavy, ld 50 is like prog nu metal

    • underrottensky
      underrottensky 2 роки тому +1

      great album

    • Peazeralus
      Peazeralus 2 роки тому +2

      The problem is Lost and Found came after LD50 and EoATtC.

    • Cornell Crawford
      Cornell Crawford 2 роки тому +3

      Happy? Was an amazing song!

  • Danny from Brooklyn
    Danny from Brooklyn 9 місяців тому

    I think the logic behind those clean Numetal song parts is to contrast from soft to heavy and give the audience, particularly at live shows the universal green light to lose their shit in unison.

  • Joebee1
    Joebee1 2 роки тому +2

    Remember being in high school and my buddy trying to get me into slipknot and mudvayne. The masks and face paint were always way too corny for me. That said mudvayne has since become a bit of a guilty pleasure. They've got some catchy songs.

    XVITNG Рік тому

    I can’t remember which film had Orgy on it. But they definitely got a huge boost from the soundtrack having them on it.
    Then they opened more Manson on a tour. And another big name the next year.
    And blue Monday was on mtv a thousand times a day.
    They never got much bigger. But that’s why they had the budget on the videos. Their label obviously thought their weird feminine nu metal industrial thing was gonna be big. But as you pointed out. They shoulda been born 15 years later. They woulda been much bigger.

  • Mark Twang
    Mark Twang 2 роки тому

    Charlotte has one of the best bounce riffs easily. Also the drummer had a doom band called white swan now and they’re pretty dope

  • Grey
    Grey 2 роки тому +2

    I always love your obsession with Nu Metal fashion 😂

  • nickXdillinger
    nickXdillinger 2 роки тому +8

    I laughed out loud a good 3 times during this video, especially during the ending. Holy Shit. More of this, Finn. I'm dying from the dunks and hot takes.

  • JoSh Marmolejo
    JoSh Marmolejo 2 роки тому +1

    I appreciate this one. Korn is my favorite band since I was 12 and I’m 31 now. Fieldy inspired me to play bass. I grew up in that late 90’s early 2000’s era.

    • Wallace Shawn
      Wallace Shawn 5 місяців тому

      Korns my favorite too. Got into them in 2002 when I was 13

  • Distant Chord
    Distant Chord 2 роки тому

    Hilarious video. The fieldy shoes part was the best. Also Marc from soulfly said he wore a backpack to keep the guitar strap from cutting his neck when he does those spin kicks.

  • don dada M
    don dada M 2 роки тому

    Kittie is a good discovery for me! they sound a lot like this little Japanese alt metal band 'Dazzle Vision' from the 2000s

  • Br00klyn116
    Br00klyn116 3 місяці тому

    POD’s style and art is questionability the most original and authentic

  • Music and Beyond
    Music and Beyond 2 роки тому

    Just saw them last night in San Antonio for the satellite tour and it was amazing POD still kills it to this day the meet and greet was worth it too

  • Kolin
    Kolin 2 роки тому +30

    numetal is becoming one of my favorite subgenres ever no cap

  • Toni Michelle
    Toni Michelle Рік тому

    I'm sooo glad you put Kittie in this video lol those ladies are like personal legdends to me! Loooved them in high school and college

  • chauncey cammisano
    chauncey cammisano 2 роки тому +5

    Kitties second album "Oracle" was badass. Heavy as fuck, just the right amount of polish, and those broads can write and arrange songs like nobody's business. Won't say underrated as a band, but I feel a lot of people slept on that album

  • jonathan webster
    jonathan webster Рік тому

    Fun fact: the bassist in Soulfly on the album Prophecy was on was David Ellefson, he of Megadeth fame (he's also in the music video).

  • lobachevscki
    lobachevscki Рік тому +1

    Orgy firts album is legit good C tier stuff, I think their look played against them in the sense that was prompt to be misjudged, but they were a legit good band.

  • Taliesin Potter
    Taliesin Potter 2 роки тому

    Coal chamber was nothing special but people have to respect Dez for all the work he's put out and styles he's touched upon, really talented frontman in all of his acts, I was never a huge fan of them but gotta respect what they did

  • Casey P
    Casey P 2 роки тому +4

    Mudvayne definitely inspired a TON of bassists. And I think you underestimate how big they got commercially, especially when they went more ButtRock. I'd say solid A Tier, but that's just me

    • RCX
      RCX 2 роки тому +2

      Minimum A Tier

    • D J
      D J 2 роки тому +4

      mudvayne could be in the big 4 of nu metal at least honorable mention

  • Skippy
    Skippy Рік тому

    I have a burnt copy of the Prophecy album by Soulfly in my pack of pirated CDs I haven't listened to in well over 15 years and I can remember loving that shit at the time. It was a pretty interesting album with reggae and weird salsa kinda music infused with groove/nu metal, 18 year old me stoned on pot thought it was great.

  • Michael Woodall
    Michael Woodall 3 місяці тому

    I met Morgan and Mercedes a few years ago. Kittie was opening for DevilDriver. They were way sweeter than I expected. Like, I think after the show they went out back to bake Apple Pies.