Are Morimoto 2Stroke 3.0 LED Bulbs Any Good? LED Chips, Brightness, and Quality Explained
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
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Introducing the brand new 2Stroke 3.0 LED bulbs from our friends over at Morimoto! These bulbs come with a new philosophy in LED bulb thinking. These bulbs are not the brightest bulbs out there in the aftermarket. But what they do for you is they create a linear improvement that is proportioned to your original bulbs in their original optics when you put them inside of your headlights or foglights. And that is what really makes them special from other options out there!
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Table of contents
00:00 - Intro
00:15 - Improvements in light output and beam pattern
01:57 - FDR score (foreground intensity vs. distance intensity)
02:20 - Street legality
02:32 - Key features
03:41 - Bulb adjustability
04:14 - Thermal exchanger system
05:19 - DRL capable LED driver
06:17 - Special features
07:11 - Outro
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I think that is ingenious how they engineered it to actually warm up the housing for cooler weather just what my Forester needs and nice warranty
Glad you like them, they are going to be a fantastic product for those winter runners!
@@RetrofitSource Hi! Very informative review. Are these brighter than an H11 halogen Sylvania silverstar ultra bulb in a reflector type of headlight? Specifically in down road (beam throw) lighting or would the difference be negligible?
I have these in my 2019 Subaru Impreza sport and love them. The high beams in the sport are not used for the DRL. I tried a set in our 2013 Outback which does use the high beams for the DRL and they would not work. I tried an anti fickler module you guys suggested but no joy. I'm not sure why I was hoping they would run at the low power DRL but for whatever reason Subaru's setup didn't do that. I was able to return the module no problem, your customer service took good care of me. I moved the bulbs to my Impreza :)
Glad to hear you're enjoying the bulbs and that we were able to handle that issue for you!
So far, I’ve been happy with these bulbs along with the Phillips ultinon pro9100.
Perfect! I was just getting tired of replacing the 'extra bright' halogens on my mom's highlander. I'm sure these will work great for her car.
These will definitely be a huge upgrade from those halogens, let us know if you need anythin else! Have a good one my man!
Great overview, I am wondering which model would be best to replace the halogen high beams in my 2021 Toyota 4Runner TRD-Off Road? Have you had any experience with retrofitting these new this year headlights? Thanks.
Shoot us an email at support@theretrofitsource.com
I'm curious how it compares to the Lumibright LED XT1 Gen 2. I bought some and love how it's the first LEDs that have a nice bright hotspot for projectors.
We will have to see if we can test them in the future! Thanks for commenting, have a good one!
I need some for my '87 300zx immediately!
You can find the link here!
www.theretrofitsource.com/9007-led-headlight-bulbs-morimoto-2stroke-LED-2STROKE-9007
I want to install these on my d2s for 370z. Do I need to change the ballasts? And why doesn't morimoto provide them? Thank you! Appreciate all your educational videos
Its very difficult to convert a factory HID car to LED. Its not impossible but with the amount of effort its best to just stay with the OEM HID setup. You could upgrade the bulbs though.
What about the H7? How do you adjust the collar so the led chips face the 9 and 3 positions? And can I use them in my projector headlights?
Yep, same position there! You can use them in projectors!
Would these be a good fit for projector headlights with dust cover (2007 Hyundai Santa Fe) and also on a reflective style headlight (2004 chevy Tahoe )
They sure would be! 😊
Great video, what do you recommend for my 2015 F56 Mini cooper (H4, reflector headlights)?
Shoot us an email at support@theretrofitsource.com
I'm sold.
Us too!
How do these compare to the Morimoto Elite HID as far as usable light output in a halogen projector? Have you guys tested them to see the differences since they are about $10 apart in price....Thx
We have not tested them side by side. But they are very close in performance output.
which model 2stroke 3.0 would you recommend to replace an H3B? My car moves the bulb from low beam to high beam if that matters.
If your vehicle cam equipped with HIDs from the factory it can be difficult to convert it to run LEDs. Shoot us an email at support@theretrofitsource.com
What would happen if we used these in normal headlights? Are they TOO bright? I can't seem to find the old 2.0s on your website.
The 2.0s have been discontinued, that is why we released the new 2Stroke 3.0. They would work great in a headlight, we just can not recommend that due to regulations!
I have an older 97-03 (2003) Ford f150 and I cannot see a single thing at night with the stock lights. The light module is the older reflective mirrored kind and I would like to retrofit a projector into it and use this LED bulb. Is this a realistic possibility?
We currently do not offer a projector that works with this LED bulb unfortunately. But here is the link to all of our projector options.
www.theretrofitsource.com/projector-kits/retrofit-kits-universal
Hi! Great video! What would you recommend for a 2018 nissan maxima with halogen/ projector housing for a low beam? And also I need fog lights to match perfectly. What would suggest? Hid or ked?
Thank you
LED everything in that Maxima!
How do these compare in a projector compared to the 55W Morimoto HID kit? I have the HID kit in my Honda and was wanting to try LED.
HID would perform much better in a projector housing!
Aftermarket housings affect beam patterns, correct? I have $100 ones from ebay and i get individual beams, with some flood around with the CSP Minis. Just got myself 3.0s and gonna put on my oem housings.
Headlights totally affect the beam pattern, a good set of headlights vban make all the difference! I would recommend installing those into your factory housings, they will produce a much better beam out of that headlight!
Trying to decide between these or the GTR ultra 2s for my 9005 high beam reflector.
Talked to someone who sells them both who said the GTRs are brighter and 20 bucks more expensive.
Does anyone have any experience with this setup and these two bulbs? And if so, which would be the better move?
I'm in Canada so the idea of bleeding heat onto the housing makes a lot of sense, so if everything else was equal, I'd lean towards the Morimotos.
GTR for sure for the most intense brightness, but the Morimoto bulbs will help with that snow!
Will these works on reflector housing with bulb cap?(cap like thingy part of housing which covers tip of the halogen bulb when inplace)
Absolutely!
How do these compare with the 2.0? I had the 2.0s installed not too long ago. Are these worth upgrading from 2.0?
These are much better overall!
@@RetrofitSource Very nice & enlightening review! Would you say that this led bulb can illuminate more light down the road then any other incandescent bulb such as the philips racingvision GT200 & osram night breakers? (Specifically in an h11 reflector type of headlight for low beam)?
I am wondering how they perform in terms of the "hum" noise produced by the fan. I have the 2Stroke 2.0 in two of my cars and the sound is annoying, specially noticeable when the car is at a stop or at a red light.
The sealing design to make it quiet once fit on the reflector/projector housing on car.
These are going to be a fair amount quieter than the older model, I think you will be very impressed with these ones! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
it looks like you removed the adjustment color to rotate the bulb. Do they just lift off?
You can unlock the collar if you twist it all the way they come right of, just like in the video.
Do we know if they work great in halogen projectors?
Shoot us an email at support@theretrofitsource.com and one of out reps can help you.
Just purchased the 2 stroke 3.0 for 2011 F150 xlt stock lights. Are these known to flicker? Hoping to plug these in and go.
No flicker issues on our end!
@@RetrofitSource same! Better than expected
I'm curious how these compare to cougar motor flagship leds. I've had good luck with the Cougars but they're not super enginered for beam pattern as much as these are. Is a perfect pattern better than near perfect pattern & more lumens?
We havent tested those bulbs yet, but if we get the chance to test them down the road we will let you know how they do! Thanks for commenting!
Excellent video!
Question, Which do you think is better. GT Lighting or this one?
We haven't tested them directly against each other yet, but we expect to see that 2Stroke 3.0 to take the cake as far as beam pattern and usable light goes!🙌
@@RetrofitSource well I called it first and honestly I prefer Mori anyway.
Right on man, let us know if you have any other questions or concerns! Have a great day!
For a car with factory HID projectors (In my case a 370Z) would you recommend these Morimoto D2H LED bulbs or the Morimoto HID upgrade kit with the 50w XB ballast and 55w D2S bulb?
We would definitely recommend the HID kit to you, that will produce a much better beam pattern, and will get you more light output than the LED option! A simple OEM HID bulb replacement will be a fantastic upgrade as well!
@@RetrofitSource Thanks! That will be the direction I go if that’s the case. For the wiring harness included with the kit, which wiring harness would I need/would you recommend for the 370Z?
If you are just doing the bulb replacements, you will not need the harness at all! If you are doing a full replacement, I would recommend just going with the H4 dual beam relay harness! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
Do these fit fine in a 15-17 Ford F-150 low beam headlight with the dust caps?
These should fit in that application, you should be good to go! Let us know if you have any other questions! Have a great day!
@Michael, were you able to get these to fit the low beam?
Do you still need an inline capacitor for PWM DRL's?
You will need the PWM Anti-Flicker links for those to work properly, you can add those right from the 2Stroke 3.0 product listing! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
Hi, do you know whether Morimoto has also applied for a patent for 2Stroke 3.0 LED bulbs in Canada?
I bought some in Canada for all of our vehicles. Wow are they awesome
I'm sure they have!
I wish they made them for 6 volt positive ground.😞 Mori could skip the DRL feature for it though.😉
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If I get this 2stroke 3.0 for my 14 civic DRL/high beam 9005 . Do I still need to buy the PWM Harness 2stroke anti flicker module?
For the Hondas you will still need the PWM unfortunately.
How’s that working out for you? Did you get these?
@@WiLL02724 yes but the leds went out already. I was going to use them for my high beams on my semi truck instead but one light went out . I put them in the trash .
I’m waiting for micro led headlight bulbs
Might be waiting a while my friend!😄
Do you recommend these for projector housings?
WE have seen them work well on some projector types. Visit our webpage at www.theretrofitsource.com/ and use the chat function, one of our customer service reps will be able to help you.
after installing these LEDs, can I reinstall the original housing cap?
This depends on the vehicle. For more information please reach out to our CS team!
404-220-7940
Support@TheRetrofitSource.com
I'm just going to walk around with these on in my hands.
Me too!
Does this item support hi/lo light or 1 steady light only?
Yes they do
I'll probably be adding these to my bike. 👍🏻
They will be a great addition to your bike, and will really improve that safety! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
@@RetrofitSource please make a video about the h1 v8 projector. There aren't a lot of reviews for it
We will see what we can do for you down the road, we will keep you posted! Have a good one!
Can I use these in projector headlights?
You can!
@theretrofitsourceinc do these have the obnoxious hum that the previous version did ? Or are the fans quieter?
These shouldnt really have much if any humming with that fan, that is because the fan is sealed inside that bulb! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
I placed an order through your website back in December 10th. Still not ship yet. I wish you guys could have live inventory.....
Sorry to hear this, if you're still having issue shoot us an email at support@theretrofitsource.com.
Which is likely to fail first, the bulb or the fan motor?
What happens when the fan motor stops working do these bulbs run the risk of getting hot enough to melt the housing or worse?
You shouldnt have any issues with melting housings, but you may have to replace that bulb. You would just have to email into us, follow the short process, and we would get a new one on the way to you! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
People worry alot about this. Unless your packing mud into it the chances of it failing are extremely low.
Exactly!👍
Any plans for an H1?
Eventually yes.
04 fx35.. what do you recommend?
Shoot us an email at support@theretrofitsource.com
Can you put these in a projector fog light?
In theory, you could totally do that! It would just depend on how much room you have out back behind that fog light! Shoot us an email if you have any other questions, we are here to help! Have a great day!
Will these work for my car. 2017 ford escape titanium with halogen projector headlights.
Yes they will. Give us a call and we can help. 404-220-7940
Can You Make A Comparison Of The GTR Lighting 2.0 Vs Morimoto 2Stroke 3.0??? What Would Your Preference Be And Why??? Asking For A Potential Future Car.
Morimoto will be a sharper beam pattern while the GTR would be brighter overall!
Anybody put these in a late model ram? (2019) any bulb out warnings?
No issues with PWM modules in line!
Is the cutoff (significantly) better than the 2.0's?
The cutoff is not determinde by the bulb, that is determined by the reflector design, or the projector cutoff shield! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
So which would you recommend.. GTR lighting Ultra Series 2, or these?
It will really depend on what you are looking for, but personally, I would go with these new 2Stroke 3.0s! They will just do a better job at spreading that light down the road in front of you, making the beam much more safe! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
I suggest a HID that will smoke both of the bulbs you mentioned
You would actually be very supprised, LED technology has increased a ton in the last couple of years, I think you would be very impressed with them! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
@@abodemoose6181 I beg to differ. I have had these for a month now and they are certainly more accurate lighting for the road ahead then anything I have ever had.
@@jamesfrommanitoba6363 Hello James!
Would you say that this led bulb can illuminate more light down the road then any other incandescent/halogen bulb such as the Sylvania SilverStar Ultra &/or the Phillips GT200?
Is Morimoto gonna go for the DOT aprouved ? Since it's so close to the halogens
Not at the moment. There are currently no LED bulbs on the market that are DOT certified.
@@RetrofitSource There are currently no LED that are DOT certified 😂😂
No LED bulb replacements are street legal, but there are definitely LED headlight assemblies that you can legally install into your vehicle, such as the Morimoto XB LED Headlights! Let us know if there is anything we can do for you, we are here to help!
@@RetrofitSource still waiting for you to add my vehicle brand to your menu
What is that vehicle year make and model?
How will these work on a 2019 Kia Optims S
Shoot us an email at support@theretrofitsource.com
What about some real lift beam pattern shots?
We will see if we can get those going for you down the road, we will totally let you know! Thank you and have a great day!
@@RetrofitSource whats so difficult buddy, you had the headlight there with you anyways, tryna hide something? are these just regular rebranded bulbs sold on amazon. huh
@@RetrofitSource will these work with vehicles that have a canbus system that gives bulb out messages? I know with HID systems you can get them with canbus to fix that issue.
@@Entertainmentinc1 they're clearly different from cheapo bulbs.
Which led bulb is good for royal enfield classic 350
It looks like that is a sealed beam type headlight. Here is a link that has most of our sealed headlight options. If you need additional help use the chat function on our webpage.
www.theretrofitsource.com/search?keywords=sealed%20beam
How do these compare to the DDM Tuning Saber ProX 55W Accu/V2?
Never compared the two so not sure!
@@RetrofitSource any plans to test DDM Products?
Probably not, DDM isn't really on our radar!
Wouldn’t that hot air being blown out the front of the bulb possibly make the projector lens hazy/dirty over time from particulates/dust within the headlight?
They should’ve thrown the hot air out the back, even if giving up the snow melting properties tbh
It’s a closed system so it takes air from that same spot. If it wasn’t dirty before, it won’t be after
The hot air will not be an issue, and as far as dust and particulates inside the housing, if the fan wasn't blowing into the housing they would just sit there as opposed to move around. Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
Are these better than the GTR Lighting ultra 2?
These will not produce as much light output per bulb, but they will produce a better beam pattern which will get you more usable light output! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
@@RetrofitSource My main concern is the Morimoto 2 stroke 3.0 with H13 dual filament still uses the older Philips Lumileds Luxeon Z ES chip technology which produce only 1.860 peak lumens when compared to the S-V.4 LED kit in H13 dual filament that produce 3600 lumens with much higher light output. Therefore, which would you recommend would provide the highest light output and better beam pattern in a reflector housing?
How about test an H4 version in a reflector for those of us that have off-road powersport machines that use them. No one tests them, just the single beam headlights.
We will see what we can do for you there, hopefully we will be able to get a video up shortly! Let us know if you have any other questions in the meantime!
@@RetrofitSource To this day skidoo still does not use Led headlights so due to black friday sale I bit the bullet and ordered up a pair of these 3.0. excited to see how they work
Right on, let us know how they work for you! Let us know if you have any other questions or concerns, we are here to help!
What's the purpose of it having the built in DRL if you can't use it on the street
Although they are not street legal, what you do with them when you get them is completely out of our control, if you catch what I am saying! Let us know if you have any other questions or concerns, we are here to help!
Phillips ultinion pro 9000? Also a new bulb
We will have to look into that bulb, we haven't tested that in house yet! We will keep you posted!
How is the hot air being blown directly and constantly across the LED chips not going to shorten their life? Normally a fan or heatsink pulls hot air away from the LEDs. This seems to do the opposite.
Hot air into the bulb housing by fan, than being cool with the heat sink, then cool air will blown directly the led chips, bring the heat from the led chips and being hot air to the headlight lens. This is how the cooling system work, also introduced in the video.
@@marcoyuen6556 I don't think that's how this works. A heatsink is designed to collect heat from some other area (the LEDs in this case) and move it away. The air leaving the the heatsink must be hotter than the incoming air or there would be no purpose to the fan at all. The outlet from that heatsink is pointed directly at the LEDs. So this is taking the heat produced by the LEDs and then instead of pulling that heat away it's blowing it right back onto them. If the outlet was angled away from the LEDs slightly (there seems to be nothing preventing this so not sure why they didn't do it) that would make some sense but it's not. This design is kinda stupid.
@@Nayr747 Intake side is LH half of the bulb, where cool air rushed into while directly exchange the heat from LED location and PCB core. The rear box circulates airflow and pushes out from the RH half of the bulb. Yes, this exhaust is hot, hotter than the incoming air. But it still is cooler than the LED chip itself = heat exchange will occur. Also, exhaust jet velocity is much higher than the intake side. This pulls surrounding air into the jet and runs along with the LED front body RH side. It looks like blowing back, but flow dynamics are a bit different, and it still is pulling the heat from the LED. In a typical LED bulb, solid metal material only can dissipate a very small amount from natural convection near LED. Thermal conduction is handled by metal solid body internal travel to the opposing end to finally exchange the heat. And there also is hot air wrapping around the LED chip and its natural convection velocity is so much smaller than 2st3.0 exhaust velocity. 2st3.0 can blow the hot air surrounding the LED chip away more effectively. Any questions, feel free to ask me.
@@yoshiishida6577 Thanks for the great explanation.
Thanks Ishida san!!!
They are not street legal for head light use, is that like federal law or state by state ?
That is a federal law, but it is up to the state to enforce it! Let us know if you have any other questions, have a great day!
Two stage does not work with 2017 Subaru STI that uses the DRL and Hi beam set up.
Did you also use the DRL Anti-Flicker modules? 👀
@@RetrofitSource No. that wasn’t mentioned when I got mine a couple of years ago. I may try the new ones with this set up. Thanks
Definitely recommend them for all applications that have a DRL/High Beam setup!
The push to adjust mechanism has been horrible for me, maybe they should have made it a button mechanism.
Works great on our end, sorry you've had issues!
how these compare to the 2.0? that’s the ones i currently have in my Durango
And how are they?
@@rohanagarwal2627 i mean i have the 2.0 they not the brightest but they're ok i wonder how better the 3.0 are
@@LexRugah ahh alright. The output from the 3.0 didn't seem like the best and the brightest, to be honest.
@@rohanagarwal2627 nope HID is definitely the best route if you looking for brightness
absolutely. I am looking for a good pair though.
175 is kinda steep..... guess I keep my 2.0s for awhile longer 😒
Our Black Friday sale just launched, you can pick them up for quite a bit cheaper!
www.theretrofitsource.com/promotions
I just bought these!!! Very happy with the sale. Upgrading from my morimoto 2stroke 2.0.
@@RetrofitSource Thanks 🙂
@@SabreLeonheart I currently have the 2.0s in my semi.....glad I caught these on sale.
@@GrabinGears hey I’m a driver too, almost 27 years now. I saw their ad on YT and was very impressed with their aftermarket headlights for autos. I sent them an email along with a photo of my 2005 Volvo VNL 780 to see if they would be interested in making aftermarket assemblies for heavy duty trucks. They said nothing concrete from Morimoto as of yet. I am assuming you use their bulbs in your stock headlight assemblies? Judging by what I’ve seen what they do for four wheelers, I am certain they could do great things for KW’s, Petes, Volvos, and Freightliners. Your thoughts?
any special reason theyre not headlight legal?
Just due to the fact that they are not DOT approved, they have all the right properties to be a legal headlight, but are just not approved. Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help! Have a great day!
Most LEDs have poor beam pattern and poor down road visibility. These, they're different. If LEDs become legal, they'll need to perform like these.
Lets get real the average consumer is buying/using for public roads regardless of DOT compliance.
And if they were, that would be entirely out of our control! Thanks for commenting man, have a good one!
Sorry, I'm South AfricanI'm not familiar with your struggles, why is this light not legal in your country? I'm just curious as to the reasoning behind it.
Government regulations
This is just due to the change in regulation in our country. Let us know if you have any other questions, have a great day!
@@RetrofitSource obviously these kinds of lights I can only by them online, they may not be available in RSA
Right?
You can buy them online, you could totally get them in your country! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
This has ALWAYS Been the reason that I hated LEDS consider these bought!
Happy to help!
"These bulbs are not legal for use in headlights here in North America, exclusively for off-road vehicles only--They are however 100% street legal to use in a fog light"
There's gonna be many "fog light" purchases ahaha
Oh yes, all of the United states purchases are for fog lights so far!😅
Does this mean if I buy these headlights for my Ford escape 2017 I could get pulled over and get a ticket or will I be fine? I'm in Massachusetts if that matters.
how loud the fan is ........
Yes, you wont be able to drive :)))
Not very!
Why are they not street legal?
Legislation in the U.S. doesn't allow for ANY aftermarket headlight that isn't factory, including HID or LED. I think the same technically applies for taillights as well. Though the likelihood of being pulled over and ticketed is low, TRS (and most resellers) can't officially sell them as headlight bulbs. The U.S. has always been behind as far a lighting technology is concerned.
No LED or HID bulb out there is street legal, this is due to DOT regulation. Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
The law does not effect taillights, but other than that you got it! It is due to goverment regulations, I wish we could offer those for your headlights! Let us know if you have any other questions or concerns, we are here to help!
I currently running the morimoto D2S 5.0,is there any led bulb that fit work on this projector?
@@gmatta1112 It's the same in (parts?) of the EU as well :/ Bureaucracy is slow to catch up unfortunately.
I used there sealed fog lights in my 08 ram they suck
That is a bummer man, if you could shoot us an email we would be happy to try and make this right with you! Support@TheRetrofitSource.com
@@RetrofitSource thanks for the reply I bought from another dealer morimoto has not replied to my complaints
So sorry to hear about that, let us know if there is anything else we can do for you! Have a great day!
Auxito Z1 are near enough the same at a fraction of the price
There's a reason for the price difference.
We get a lot of people switching to there after using the bulb you mentioned. Also these have a good warranty unlike the other brand.
Petty that you tried to take a cheap shot at HR
No suchthing!
Even if that’s the case for not street legal, lots of people will still be driving led on the headlights. Regardless.
I would love to mount them on my low beam headlights.
Plus, I don’t have fog lights 🤣
There some other automotive vehicles that are very very bright.
So this shouldn’t be a problem, especially when we live up north I. Illinois.
plus twist, these are nothing special, similar design can be purchased on amazon for fraction of the price
You can not find a bulb just like this one, this is a patented design from Morimoto that can not be LEGALLY replicated by anyone! Let us know if you have any other questions, we are here to help!
@@RetrofitSource Hi, do you know whether Morimoto has also applied for a patent for 2Stroke 3.0 LED bulbs in Canada?
You will note, nowhere does he say how freaking expensive these things are. $250 for LED lightbulbs? Who are they kidding, overpaid single males earning 6 figures not knowing what to do with their money? Thanks, but No, thanks!
Hello, we are not sure where you saw the $250 price tag, here is a link that has our pricing for the bulbs.
www.theretrofitsource.com/led-bulbs/head-fog-light-bulbs
$194 plus the $36 DRL kit and shipping... Do your math... Thanks, but No, Thanks!
And I'm sure every person who buys these will most definitely obey the law, and would never think of putting them in the headlights of an on-road vehicle.
I for one would be totally willing to spend $200 on a pair of bulbs that will solely be used in my fog housings.
Absolutely, they couldn't possibly work in any other application but the fog lights!😄