Couple of extra tidbits: (1) the CX-60 is 34% dearer to service than a CX-5 when you compare the two diesels ($3217 vs $2386 for five years); and (2) make sure you test drive both, especially to see if the CX-60's firmer ride is still acceptable for you. -TB
As an independent in Melbourne I Get slightly annoyed when you quote servicing costs. As I believe they do not reflect the true costs of maintaining a vehicle over a period of time. If you tell me that your can service a vehicle for $2000-$3000 over 5 years I would like to know does that include tyres, brakes, coolant flush etc because in my experience these are often not part of the deal. I’m not saying what I see is the be all & end all. However in my workshop the common theme is your average car costs around $1200 per year to maintain. Servicing costs are only 1 component of that figure. As we include tyre rotation & safety checks each visit. So these generic figures don’t always add up.
@@anakinskywalker4113 Thanks for your information. A lot of my friends even don't keep their vehicles with logbook service. They only repair when something breaks down.
Had both, and loving my CX60 GT PHEV. Definately feels like more room in the cabin, and very well packaged. The PHEV has some grunt to it in Sports mode, and I can usually get my daily km EV only. The ride has softened after 1000km too. Great car.
06:15 Hey, I'm not familiar with Australian CX-5 specs, but in Japan, there are switches for the seat heating system and also 2 USB charging ports inside the centre armrest console.
The third rear passenger could use one of the two USB ports under the centre armrest. There’s also a 12v socket in the centre of the dash that is perfect for plugging your phone into with a USB adapter.
Drove cx-5 2021 Sports for last 2 years. Now I singed for CX-60. My only competitor for choosing was volvo XC40 petrol which is a lot cheaper than CX-60. But they removed HUD from all trims for new XC40 ..then this was only reason I decided to go with CX-60. My test drive feeling of CX-60 was a lot heavier and firmer than CX-5, but I think I will be familiar with that anyway.
I have a Holden VFII SSV Redline but my daily is a 2022 CX5 touring active diesel. I absolutely love it. It barely goes over 2k rpm due to the massive torque, it's a big small SUV with enough power to do whatever you want, the range is about 600-700ish km - Not too bad! The only hang up is the cost of Mazda vehicles. The price point has increased 10-15k since before COVID. If i were to spend 80-90k on an SUV i don't think I'd be buying a Mazda.
I had ordered and waited over 6 months for the release of the CX-60 which was subject to a test drive. I was very disappointed when I finally drove it as it was not comfortable and the suspension was jumpy. The PHEV fan was also very loud at startup. I ended up purchasing a CX-5 Akera Turbo and may upgrade to a CX-60 down the track if Mazda fixes the teething issues with this car. I really hope they do as I think it looks and feels premium but they need to focus on the ride quality.
It's often a smart move to stick with "proven" technology and vehicles and let someone else have the fun of sorting out the "first generation" bugs of the new!
CX60 is very expensive. CX-5 is definitely more in my budget. Its also perfectly sized for urban living. Could have a few more inches of rear legroom 😮
After owning a CX5 diesel that developed what turned out to be a egr issue that Mazda couldn’t even diagnose at 90k klm and having to pay for them to fire the parts cannon at it to fix it I would never own a Mazda diesel again!
For some people is good for others no. If you mostly drive it in town/city there will be problems. It's good but super sensitive engine. Like every diesel it is best outside of the city . Highway and etc.
@@TheOnlyPeacfulLife Diesels are especially sensitive to short-runs. They need a regular long drive to get the whole power train heated up properly, so that the you can burn off the accumulated soot in the DPF. In fact, most cars benefit from longer drives once a month - especially those with direct injection.
Your review says cx5 infotainment only accessible via the toggle switch. Implying it’s different to cx60. Can you clarify if cx60 is actually fundamentally different in how you can interact with the infotainment screen please.
The biggest difference between a CX5 and CX60 petrol hybrid is that the 3.3L is insanely overcomplicated in design, to the point where the 'over engeering' and making everything really complex even leaves the Germans in the dust. The new Mazda engine is something that makes a BMW inline 6 look like something out of a 2000s Toyota.
Just for reference, all of the following have been replaced in one CX-60 and half the problems are still not resolved. Gearbox Steering Rack Wireless Charger Rear Door Front Door latch Front Door striker pin Tailgate latch x 2 Tailgate striker pin x 2 Steering wheel Heater Control Unit Rain Sensor Battery Both Side radars Suspension Rear Door handles (twice)
The CX-60 is definitely better finished. But I have a few issues. 1. With the Takumi pack, the driver and passenger doors look like they were designed by committee (5 distinct colours, 5 different surfaces). Very 'fussy'. 2. The centre console is very wide, pushing the drivers seat very close to the door. Hence the offset of the seat and steering wheel is large 3. Nowhere to put the right foot when using cruise control
Not as detailed as I'd like, basically it is a video form of spec comparison and you can just do so on Mazda's website. Typically these comparison videos are done with 1 person driving both vehicles and explain what the differences are particularly around driving impression but we don't get it in this video which is unfortunate.
Thank you for the great comparison. The CX-60 just landed in Philippines couple montgs ago and i'm pretty torn on what to buy a CX-5, CX-60 or should i consider a PPV/SUV with this comparison and some help on the comment section i think im going for the CX-60.
@@TheOnlyPeacfulLife The Cx- 5 is already outdated so i pull it out of my option. i really love the CX-60 but then theres a recall about the fuel line, suspension and transmission so didn't go for it. Ended up not buying anything because the hyundai elantra N just launched and it is in a very close price with the CX-60 and that car fits my lifestyle a little bit more.
Guys , just wait until the first facelift of CX-60 . Like every new model it has it's negative sides . Which is super annoying since you pay very high price. Until then go with the CX-5 . It's a better all rounder + much more reliable car in general.
I don’t know why Mazda went for a single clutch gearbox rather than a conventional automatic or why it set up the ride to be so firm as these seem to be the two biggest criticisms. If they want to compete with the more luxurious competitors they need the refinement to live up to the promise.
From the US here. Mazda should have made two divisions in my opinion. One division for the regular CX-3, CX-5, CX-7? and CX-9. And a premium division for the CX-30, CX50, CX-70 and CX-90. Then they could have really went upmarket with the upper division and kept the others affordable.
You mentioned no rear seat "Device power" on the CX5. Is this in reference to USBs for devices? These are in the arm rest on all models except the Maxx grade.
I got a CX-5 Akera a few months ago. People looking to buy Mazda should know the exterior finishes are not that great. If the more pricey models like the CX-60 are no better then personally I would look elsewhere.
Have a 2019 CX5 GT Diesel - fit, finish, paint on car, around doors and boot are top notch - overall quality 9.5/10. Maybe Mazda are scrimping post covid on their cars. Interestingly, I looked at a new CX60 and the paint on car, around doors and boot were NOT worthy of the premium price. Lots of orange peel - quite disappointing. CX60 Petrol 6 Cyl was nice to drive - but spending $40 -55K to trade up had me thinking there were better cars to buy.
@@scottmackenzie318 If Mazda want to go premium in their models and pricing I think they need to up their exterior finish. My silver CX-5 looks great, I keep it looking as new and waxed and have had PPF put on the exterior plastic pillars. However truth is the paint finish is thin, areas around the tailgate that are seen when the tailgate is open has no clear coat. Chrome window trims are too soft, plastic window trims are far too soft. If they were to improve these things, and make the leather seats more comfy, then I would be happier.
Mazda CX5 rear seats do Come with USB’s for charging … It’s inside the centre arm rest…. 2 x 2.4amp USBs for device charging only…. Weirdly rear USBs chargers are faster than the ultra slow driver & front passenger USBs outlets up front.
Review seem to biased towards the new car. The 2 cars have pretty much the same infotainment system but this review suggest cx5 is worse. The lack of usb port..?! And the lag in cx5 transmission is another questionable comment. Seems lot of other reviews are highlighting lag in the cx60 transmission.
Spot on about the cx-5 diesel engine. I have a '20 GT diesel and it behaves exactly like how Kurt explains, gruff and clattery when at low speeds but impressively at speed. Fuel economy is not close to what Mazda claim but decent nevertheless..I can get approx 700ks out of about 50L
Potential buyers are going to find it hard to justify the big price difference and has been shown in a number of reviews now, there are issues with the auto transmission and ride quality with no adaptive suspension available. The styling on the CX60 around the rear doors with its fussy dips and curves almost looks like it's been in a crash - very noticeable in dark colours.
I'm totally disappointed with CX-60 3.3D (254cv) I've been forced to replace the complete engine after 4 months (42.000 km) Terrible handling, scary on high speed, extremely hard in city. Acoustic isolation very poor Breaking need to be fixed I use to have the CX-5 which was much better, zero problems after 300.000 km. Sorry Mazda I'm totally disappointed
makes no sense to move to performance oriented RWD and more powerful engine while also bumping the weight up a few hundred kgs, just give us a lower 1300kg RWD CX5 with 2.5 turbo and dual injection
Had a CX-5 and wanted a more powerful larger version ... that is the CX-60. CX-60 - NEEDS - Koni Special Active shocks to drive as well as the CX-5... otherwise you have a Kangaroo suspension 😮
The difference is one is unaffordable, and they are both so poorly packaged as to make buying a hatchback almost as practical. Without a cogent EV strategy Mazda are finished.
It's difficult to justify the big price difference between the 2. Yes the straight 6 engines may be more powerful and refined but for most buyers the CX5 drivetrains are adequate. The CX-60 interior looks great but again, it doesn't look $20 000 better.
Cx60 will be their biggest failure in the Mazda history. One car with too many new tech like mild hybrid ,turbo and new 8 speed transmission are real gamble for your money. They might getting into huge recall and depreciate like falling ice after five years 😂😂
Couple of extra tidbits: (1) the CX-60 is 34% dearer to service than a CX-5 when you compare the two diesels ($3217 vs $2386 for five years); and (2) make sure you test drive both, especially to see if the CX-60's firmer ride is still acceptable for you. -TB
As an independent in Melbourne I
Get slightly annoyed when you quote servicing costs. As I believe they do not reflect the true costs of maintaining a vehicle over a period of time. If you tell me that your can service a vehicle for $2000-$3000 over 5 years I would like to know does that include tyres, brakes, coolant flush etc because in my experience these are often not part of the deal. I’m not saying what I see is the be all & end all. However in my workshop the common theme is your average car costs around $1200 per year to maintain. Servicing costs are only 1 component of that figure. As we include tyre rotation & safety checks each visit. So these generic figures don’t always add up.
@@anakinskywalker4113 Thanks for your information. A lot of my friends even don't keep their vehicles with logbook service. They only repair when something breaks down.
Had both, and loving my CX60 GT PHEV. Definately feels like more room in the cabin, and very well packaged. The PHEV has some grunt to it in Sports mode, and I can usually get my daily km EV only. The ride has softened after 1000km too. Great car.
06:15 Hey, I'm not familiar with Australian CX-5 specs, but in Japan, there are switches for the seat heating system and also 2 USB charging ports inside the centre armrest console.
Same in Europe. I guess they didn't bother to check the rear armrest. Should be there
it is there. 2 usb and buttons for rear heated seat
Hang on mate there is device power when you fold down the armrest in the CX5.
You got him! Good job
Not much use when there's three in the back though.
Thank you for the reminder
The third rear passenger could use one of the two USB ports under the centre armrest. There’s also a 12v socket in the centre of the dash that is perfect for plugging your phone into with a USB adapter.
Drove cx-5 2021 Sports for last 2 years. Now I singed for CX-60. My only competitor for choosing was volvo XC40 petrol which is a lot cheaper than CX-60. But they removed HUD from all trims for new XC40 ..then this was only reason I decided to go with CX-60. My test drive feeling of CX-60 was a lot heavier and firmer than CX-5, but I think I will be familiar with that anyway.
6:15 CX-5 has 2 power ports at the rear in the middle armrest
I'm loving the sleek and modern design of the Mazda CX-5!
I have a Holden VFII SSV Redline but my daily is a 2022 CX5 touring active diesel. I absolutely love it. It barely goes over 2k rpm due to the massive torque, it's a big small SUV with enough power to do whatever you want, the range is about 600-700ish km - Not too bad! The only hang up is the cost of Mazda vehicles. The price point has increased 10-15k since before COVID. If i were to spend 80-90k on an SUV i don't think I'd be buying a Mazda.
I had ordered and waited over 6 months for the release of the CX-60 which was subject to a test drive. I was very disappointed when I finally drove it as it was not comfortable and the suspension was jumpy. The PHEV fan was also very loud at startup.
I ended up purchasing a CX-5 Akera Turbo and may upgrade to a CX-60 down the track if Mazda fixes the teething issues with this car. I really hope they do as I think it looks and feels premium but they need to focus on the ride quality.
It's often a smart move to stick with "proven" technology and vehicles and let someone else have the fun of sorting out the "first generation" bugs of the new!
CX60 is very expensive. CX-5 is definitely more in my budget. Its also perfectly sized for urban living. Could have a few more inches of rear legroom 😮
I think the best comparison would be the diesel CX8 for a price/size perspective
Beautiful ❤ CX60. Love my g40 GT very much.
Glad it's going well.
Both a great car but to me i would choose CX 60 because more luxury look and great engine
I just got my cx60 and it's definitely a step up any SUV in the Philippines
still firm pa din po ba yung ride compared sa 2023 cx60
After owning a CX5 diesel that developed what turned out to be a egr issue that Mazda couldn’t even diagnose at 90k klm and having to pay for them to fire the parts cannon at it to fix it I would never own a Mazda diesel again!
For some people is good for others no. If you mostly drive it in town/city there will be problems. It's good but super sensitive engine. Like every diesel it is best outside of the city . Highway and etc.
@@KivVeigroeg69 thanks for clarifying I didn’t know this before
@@TheOnlyPeacfulLife Diesels are especially sensitive to short-runs. They need a regular long drive to get the whole power train heated up properly, so that the you can burn off the accumulated soot in the DPF. In fact, most cars benefit from longer drives once a month - especially those with direct injection.
@@RodneyW interesting!
Your review says cx5 infotainment only accessible via the toggle switch. Implying it’s different to cx60. Can you clarify if cx60 is actually fundamentally different in how you can interact with the infotainment screen please.
he also said the 5 does not have rear USB, but it does. its in the center armrest lol
I would like a newer generation CX-5 which has a larger rear row and costs almost the same as the current generation.
How long till people start jailbraking the infotainment to enable touchscreen in all mode
The biggest difference between a CX5 and CX60 petrol hybrid is that the 3.3L is insanely overcomplicated in design, to the point where the 'over engeering' and making everything really complex even leaves the Germans in the dust. The new Mazda engine is something that makes a BMW inline 6 look like something out of a 2000s Toyota.
Just for reference, all of the following have been replaced in one CX-60 and half the problems are still not resolved.
Gearbox
Steering Rack
Wireless Charger
Rear Door
Front Door latch
Front Door striker pin
Tailgate latch x 2
Tailgate striker pin x 2
Steering wheel
Heater Control Unit
Rain Sensor
Battery
Both Side radars
Suspension
Rear Door handles (twice)
The CX-60 is definitely better finished. But I have a few issues. 1. With the Takumi pack, the driver and passenger doors look like they were designed by committee (5 distinct colours, 5 different surfaces). Very 'fussy'. 2. The centre console is very wide, pushing the drivers seat very close to the door. Hence the offset of the seat and steering wheel is large 3. Nowhere to put the right foot when using cruise control
Not as detailed as I'd like, basically it is a video form of spec comparison and you can just do so on Mazda's website. Typically these comparison videos are done with 1 person driving both vehicles and explain what the differences are particularly around driving impression but we don't get it in this video which is unfortunate.
True
Thank you for the great comparison. The CX-60 just landed in Philippines couple montgs ago and i'm pretty torn on what to buy a CX-5, CX-60 or should i consider a PPV/SUV with this comparison and some help on the comment section i think im going for the CX-60.
Buy a lexus
How was it? 🫣🤩
@@TheOnlyPeacfulLife The Cx- 5 is already outdated so i pull it out of my option. i really love the CX-60 but then theres a recall about the fuel line, suspension and transmission so didn't go for it. Ended up not buying anything because the hyundai elantra N just launched and it is in a very close price with the CX-60 and that car fits my lifestyle a little bit more.
Guys , just wait until the first facelift of CX-60 . Like every new model it has it's negative sides . Which is super annoying since you pay very high price. Until then go with the CX-5 . It's a better all rounder + much more reliable car in general.
The CX-5 rear seat USB charge ports are in the fold down armrest
could you do a review on the base model outlander ES pls and maybe even do a comparison to another brand base model and not use the korean twins.
I don’t know why Mazda went for a single clutch gearbox rather than a conventional automatic or why it set up the ride to be so firm as these seem to be the two biggest criticisms. If they want to compete with the more luxurious competitors they need the refinement to live up to the promise.
From the US here. Mazda should have made two divisions in my opinion. One division for the regular CX-3, CX-5, CX-7? and CX-9. And a premium division for the CX-30, CX50, CX-70 and CX-90. Then they could have really went upmarket with the upper division and kept the others affordable.
yea the models are to close and confusing
Cx5 still has a few years on top to go....I bought one 10 months ago.
Yep it's not going anywhere imminently
You mentioned no rear seat "Device power" on the CX5. Is this in reference to USBs for devices? These are in the arm rest on all models except the Maxx grade.
Yes, thanks for the reminder.
I got a CX-5 Akera a few months ago. People looking to buy Mazda should know the exterior finishes are not that great. If the more pricey models like the CX-60 are no better then personally I would look elsewhere.
Have a 2019 CX5 GT Diesel - fit, finish, paint on car, around doors and boot are top notch - overall quality 9.5/10. Maybe Mazda are scrimping post covid on their cars. Interestingly, I looked at a new CX60 and the paint on car, around doors and boot were NOT worthy of the premium price. Lots of orange peel - quite disappointing. CX60 Petrol 6 Cyl was nice to drive - but spending $40 -55K to trade up had me thinking there were better cars to buy.
@@scottmackenzie318 If Mazda want to go premium in their models and pricing I think they need to up their exterior finish. My silver CX-5 looks great, I keep it looking as new and waxed and have had PPF put on the exterior plastic pillars. However truth is the paint finish is thin, areas around the tailgate that are seen when the tailgate is open has no clear coat. Chrome window trims are too soft, plastic window trims are far too soft. If they were to improve these things, and make the leather seats more comfy, then I would be happier.
CX60 is overpriced, I think Mazda will have tough time selling it
Objectively, it's underpriced vs its competitive set.
The CX60 is sold at only a 10% premium compared to the CX5 in Taiwan.
egr future (costly) issues with the diesel should rule them as a non choice tbh
I would pick cx5
CX5 drives way better. what's the real reason for the vast difference, weight, fwd vs rwd, spring rates, shocks, sway bars ???
Mazda CX5 rear seats do
Come with USB’s for charging …
It’s inside the centre arm rest….
2 x 2.4amp USBs for device charging only…. Weirdly rear USBs chargers are faster than the ultra slow driver & front passenger USBs outlets up front.
Review seem to biased towards the new car. The 2 cars have pretty much the same infotainment system but this review suggest cx5 is worse. The lack of usb port..?! And the lag in cx5 transmission is another questionable comment. Seems lot of other reviews are highlighting lag in the cx60 transmission.
The CX-5 interior is really outdated. Needs a refresh with a nice digital dash and just an overal nicer design.
Spot on about the cx-5 diesel engine. I have a '20 GT diesel and it behaves exactly like how Kurt explains, gruff and clattery when at low speeds but impressively at speed. Fuel economy is not close to what Mazda claim but decent nevertheless..I can get approx 700ks out of about 50L
Potential buyers are going to find it hard to justify the big price difference and has been shown in a number of reviews now, there are issues with the auto transmission and ride quality with no adaptive suspension available. The styling on the CX60 around the rear doors with its fussy dips and curves almost looks like it's been in a crash - very noticeable in dark colours.
I'm totally disappointed with CX-60 3.3D (254cv)
I've been forced to replace the complete engine after 4 months (42.000 km)
Terrible handling, scary on high speed, extremely hard in city.
Acoustic isolation very poor
Breaking need to be fixed
I use to have the CX-5 which was much better, zero problems after 300.000 km.
Sorry Mazda I'm totally disappointed
CX5 has USB ports in the arm rest.
to close to each other in size to justify $22k for 165 mm?😂
Lag , you have to drop a gear , like any driver knows r
If only Mazda updates the cx5 with hybrid...
No. 20 000 euros more.😂😂😂😂😂
Don't get greedy, Mazda.
Your company is sounding very American.
makes no sense to move to performance oriented RWD and more powerful engine while also bumping the weight up a few hundred kgs, just give us a lower 1300kg RWD CX5 with 2.5 turbo and dual injection
That 20k you could go to Lexus.
Had a CX-5 and wanted a more powerful larger version ... that is the CX-60. CX-60 - NEEDS - Koni Special Active shocks to drive as well as the CX-5...
otherwise you have a Kangaroo suspension 😮
"kinda feels like a cow"....i'll take ya word for it, homie
The difference is one is unaffordable, and they are both so poorly packaged as to make buying a hatchback almost as practical. Without a cogent EV strategy Mazda are finished.
Ridiculous comment,😅
@@daweigo6851 Not it’s not
It's difficult to justify the big price difference between the 2. Yes the straight 6 engines may be more powerful and refined but for most buyers the CX5 drivetrains are adequate.
The CX-60 interior looks great but again, it doesn't look $20 000 better.
Poorly packaged. My CX-5 has everything and more.
Autism is showing
Cx60 will be their biggest failure in the Mazda history. One car with too many new tech like mild hybrid ,turbo and new 8 speed transmission are real gamble for your money. They might getting into huge recall and depreciate like falling ice after five years 😂😂
Mazda is dreaming and they urgently need to competitive ev
And they claim their next EVs will start to arrive in 2025-2026. Which is some time off…
No difference, both POS, myriad problems poor service warranty back up overpriced, chinese vehicles are handing them their asses
Along with dealers being tools
My CX5 has had exactly 0 issues for 7 years. Just upgraded to CX60, also going great. Far from a POS.