A Quick Message From Blizzard: We want to start by saying we hear you. We are awesome at Blizzard, we're award winners. Everything we do is what award winners do, because we have won awards. Since the moment we stepped into the office on Monday, we have been discussing mobile gaming non-stop. Mobile gaming is amazing. We love mobile games, we play them all the time. Whether driving, taking a dump, walking along roadways on the way home from school, cooking, babysitting, hanging out with relatives over the holidays, mobile games are perfect for escaping our real world situations. Why do any of those things without simultaneously slaying demons?? Please laugh. hahaha, ok thanks. So please, all we want is to bring the full Diablo experience to mobile. Those who actually tried the game filled out a questionnaire, and they all answered the only question with the only answer: "YES ITS AWESOME" So judging by these numbers, we can guarantee it will be well received. It's going to make us a lot of money which is proof your opinions suck. Please go away now. We hate you. Sincerely, Blizzard Entertainment All credits to SEEDERS from the US D3 FORUM
Referencing the original post that meme was made out of: They have updated D3 with major content two times in six years. They haven't even done so much as a balance patch to shake up the meta in over a full year. Then they post "we hear you" and it's supposed to mean something? Hollow words from an obvious PR post. Sorry if that comes off negative, but it's the truth.
Nice parody! They are either lying through their teeth, or they are desperately divided internally. The problem with their statement is that when you start too many projects, the quality of said projects suffers greatly or goes into “development hell” with an extremely long wait time. Look at what’s happening with Square Enix and the FF7 remake - they outsourced their projects and it went into development hell. Will they ever learn?
I don't understand how the wow people let the microtransaction just happen. They not only have to pay money for every new expansion, they have to pay a monthly fee, and even then they get bunch of microtransacions.
You have to understand, this took years and years to fester and slowly grow. Just like in ALL the rest of gaming, it was mostly a slow and gradual process. I haven't played WoW for over 6 years, but I still remember how torn i was about the Celestial Steed back in the days. I must've gone back and forth on wether or not to buy it a dozen times, especially because it was priced so ridiculously high at 25$. But i was HUGELY into the game back then, and since it was the only thing extra they offered at that point i caved and got it in the end. That's how it started for most people i suppose. And slowly, but surely, we got to where we are now.
Are you talking about services like server change, race change, etc.. or mounts/pets in shop for € ? Because the first one I find "normal", except that it could maybe be a bit cheaper... And the second one I totally don't care and so do 99.99% of hardcore players. If it brings joy to the casuals then it can stay
@@Ilhtilior so if they make so much money out of the microtransactions, why is people paying a monthly subscription, specially if you don't get extra content with it, because you have to pay for expansions anyway. Is money over money over money.
I was there man. I dunno, we just kinda let it go. I remember people kind of protesting the changes. But people were so absorbed into the cosmetic wonder of having a special mount. I'm all for things that raise money for charities that are time-limited, but random cosmetics are just... eh...
I was disappointed that blizzard outsourced it to a Chinese company instead of redefining what a mobile game can be. Blizzard has always created genre changing products but this feels lazy and greedy.
Patrick Searcey Let’s call it as it is. This isn’t Blizzard anymore, it’s Activision. They’re just whoring the Blizzard name to ride off it’s reputation.
@@driftracerr34 Activision Blizzard is just the name of the publisher, Blizzard and Activision are still separate company's with different teams. So yes, the Blizzard you want to believe died a hero, is still here, and made Diablo Immortal.
@@travellingalchemist3458 Activision Blizzard is the publisher, but Activision bought out Blizzard years ago. Before, Blizzard Entertainment was its own company. Yes, Blizzard has it's own separate team now, but they all answer to Activision and Activision is pulling the strings. So yeah, all the original Blizzard devs that are still there answer to Massah
@@driftracerr34 Haha! That is incredibly misinformed. Activision never bought Blizzard, it just merged with Vivendi games, renaming it Activision Blizzard. Later Blizzard Entertainment and Activision Production bought themselves (Which means they bought Activision Blizzard from Vivendi to become independent). And yes, BOTH of them own Activision Blizzard. Blizzard and Activision are operated more like separate companies under the umbrella of Activision-Blizzard name. Activision have no say in WoW like Blizzard have no say in Destiny or Call of Duty. It's an urban myth or rather a lie that Activision controls Blizzard. So stop saying Activision is the mystical boogieman that is to blame for Blizzard making bad decisions, just accept that a company you like screwed up.
@@travellingalchemist3458 I probably am. I just remember hearing it from a UA-camr not too long ago, probably misinformed too. Don't have to be a douche about it.
ThesuperRetroBros, 2 things that can help to answer to your question: 1) Moving the studios from San Francisco to Los Angeles is not an innocent decision. A city influence the way people live, the way to look at things and your vision of ascetics. It impacted the shift from authenticity to something more artificial and marketing-based. SInce 2005, Blizzard has lost their most talented employees. When you don't have the right human resources and environment, you can't hire the right talents with a unique and background and culture. They only hire marketing people or 3d/IT experts. 2) Since 2000, globalism and multiculturalism increased puritanism and political correctness, thus complying to family-friendly content. Look what became the d2 christian cross on the paladin shield in d3. Where is the blood bath D2 harem in d3? Blood and nudity being removed from Diablo:Immortal for the chinese market. 3) The drop in quality and authenticity is not confined the United states or video games. Globalism spreads and killed the sense of community, and increased the selfishness and greed. This increased the seek for short-time opportunities, and short term business plans(Let me be clear about this, I appreciate many aspects of globalism, I'm only trying to have a objective view on it) You can not separate the collapse in artstyle and the greed of Blizzard. Both problems are interlocking. Thank you very much for your videos, pleasant to hear and well structured. PS: any other way to contact you than twitter?
@@newchaoticorder5372 I would like to stress that I'm atheist myself. To me the Diablo franchise is based on something compatible with historical facts. It's a fact that back in the days, religion played a central role in everyday's life. The most basics fears and emotions were felt through the spectrum of religion. What maes Diablo 1 and 2 beautiful is that it's open's up the players to gothic architecture, arabic culture, maya/aztec culture, Medieval weaponry and arts, and to the relation deep religion and christianism in the western civilisation. I find it beautiful but again, I am atheist. The problem with D3 is that artistic quality is just very low. It's not a religion/atheist problem.
Blizzard has been releasing shit games starting with cataclysm and getting shittier and shittier each year. The golden days of blizzard were Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft1/BW, Warcraft 3 and wow up till Wrath. Was fun while it lasted.
I totally agree that Cataclysm was the beginning of the end. I somehow always find myself playing WoW because some of my best friends play it periodically. But some of the changes in Cata were just inexcusable.
Not gonna lie, was expecting a very mediocre video from a channel this small. Was surprised to find that it was very well-made! While most drag out 5 minutes of content into 10 you did 15 minutes into 10. Good job, I liked it a lot!
I'll leave an actual comment too.. haha, blizzard was absorbed by Activision, being a large public traded company, they will always chase growth and profit. The people making big decisions don't play video games or care what we think, they just use data to drive change. The revenue generated from mobile is more than pc and console combined, that is all they care about. It is sad, but we will have smaller studios swoop in to provide what blizzard will inevitably leave behind, like path of exile for example. Blizzard now is only blizzard in name, they do not make the same products as they did.
The whole purpose of the acquisition was for Activision to monetize the IP of and name of Blizzard. They bought it to squeeze as much cash from it as possible. This is them doing that.
When Immortal was announced, my little brothers looked at me, and with anime eyes on the verge of tears, asked, "Does this mean that Diablo II is the last good one there'll ever be?" And with a heavy heart, I gazed off into the ether and replied, "Aye, lads....aye."
Damn, that Diablo 1 intro music just instantly teleported me back to my Compaq Presario in the late 90s! Haven't played D1 + Hellfire in maybe 15 years now! :p
@@TheSuperRetroBros I think I was around 12 the first time I played Diablo. I remember absolutely panicking, mashing everything and dying when I heard "FRESH MEAT" and saw all the blood and people gored on spikes. It was the most morbid thing I'd seen in a game before, and it looked so realistic! :P
@@jan1080 Dude, I literally ran for my life and hung around the 1st level for a long time before I bothered going back down to The Butcher's room. That scarred me for life loool
It is too bright and colorful (Both figuratively and literally.) D1/D2 was dark and scary. Diablo immortal is just gonna be a watered down D3. Soooo shitty
Immortal doesn’t seem to look or even play like a Diablo game. Ten-second cool down times for your abilities. Hell they even took the health and mana circles out and replaced them with generic health and mana bars.
I wouldn't worry too much. The Mobile Gaming crowd has no connection to the IP's being pushed onto that platform. That means those games have to compete based on what they are, not the name they carry. And then Diablo Immortal is nothing more then a reskin of an existing game. Doomed to fail. Blizzard assumes there is crossplatform loyalty to the brand (of Diablo, but also of their other titles). They will soon come to realize that is wishful thinking.
True. I think the rage is because people have waited a long time for... anything. Obviously, this announcement is just bad decision making on Blizzard's behalf.
Incredible well made and said video! Sums up the whole problem pretty damn well. Thank you for uploading it. I wish, some Blizz workers, one of those, who actually direct their way, not just some random developer, would see this and recognize, what they have done.
I'm have stopped getting surprised, angry or disappointed with AAA/big budget publisher and feel mostly indifference these days. There are some expetions to the pattern of AAA games but I have discovered that I return more often to my older PC games and play more on my PS2 and Xbox 360 again if I want to enjoy big budget titles. I enjoy many of those games more since I feel like they are complete experiences from the start and doesen't require 10 DLCs or microtransactions too feel whole and offer more depth, variation and detail. I can simply play and enjoy the game from start to finnish, having a good time and not spend time feeling cheated of my money because I bought a clearly unfinished product of the same game I have bought 3 years in a row with a slightly different coat of paint. If I want new games which offers actual content and new experiences, Indie or smaller than AAA but still quite big developers and publisher like CD Project red is the way to go.
It's a shame we have no trust in AAA companies as they should be the pinnacles of greatness. The most time and resources available, yet they choose to water down a lot of their games in order to appeal to a casual audience and fill games with DLC. I would think that casuals are going to play whatever game is popular regardless of the difficulty curves and learning process within the game... maybe I'm wrong?
TheSuperRetroBros I think so too. A good product can appeal to core fan bases and people wanting more as well as casuals while the tripe the so called "pinnacle of greatness" so often puts out today is more about the hype and fast sales than the actual product and it's longlevity. casuals will pick it up and play it for a while then move over to something else and dont look back or return for more. While games like Morrowind, Oblivion, the original Thief games, Half-Life 2, Bioshock, Kotor 2 etc are still played, revered and remembered today And are excellent examples that games made for entertainment can be art on the same level as movies or books. Farcry 5, AC odessey, and whatever Bioware is doing these days will probably be forgotten within a year and nobody cares. Casuals aren't loyal, doesen't care about the brand or the people working on it and its disrespectful and sickening when publishers are so full of themselves that they market towards those people but expect the long time fans wanting a better product to just pay, accept and fall in line. It didn't work for the shitty Thief reboot, Star Wars Battlefront and it looks like it wont work for Diablo.
I got a bit carried away in a rant. I would also like to mention that games like the new God of war was a huge success despite being everything AAA are claiming nobody wants to play anymore and I'm sure a lot of "casuals" enjoyed it and even became fans of the series because of its quality content and breath of fresh air with no microtransactions and day one DLCs. It was just being something very simple, a good game:)
This is a great video. I've always told friends how The Burning Crusade was the last Blizzard game I liked which came out in 2007. And coincidentally Blizzard merged with Activision in 2008. Every game Blizzard released after that merge just did not hold up to the Blizzard standard. SC2 was a good game, but it wasn't up to Blizzard-like quality. There were lots of issues, issues that still exist today. That wouldn't happen in a pre-Activision Blizzard game. I hope you make more parts in this series and talk about what really happened inside Blizzard's HQ and what is happening now.
I remember playing Warcraft 1 in HighSchool. I was studying music and I taught myself to play the battle music from the game. I really liked the tune as I had heard nothing like it before.
Fantastic video. The point about loot system (and LFR) leasing to isolation was my immediate feeling after starting up again in MOP after a three year break.
It's the fault of each and everyone of those sheeple who have so little backbone that they are even willing to go to a marketing event of the very company that has been fucking them over for several years now. Mobile is the logical progession of the path they have chosen for the games by their actions. Games like Warcraft and Diablo have been so twisted from what they were when I would play them when I was younger, that they have lost every appeal for me. I'm kind of glad that it now all comes crashing down, and the players reap what they have sown.
Actually I only ever played vanilla WoW. I was refering to the RTS game Warcraft ;) I was pretty big on Diablo, though, especially the second one. My favorite Blizzard game however (even though it doesn't fit this topic at all, as it is a completely different genere) would be Blackthorne, I think.
We were always here, many of us just didn't want to see it. Many were always *_SCREAMING_* about this, but Blizzard could do no wrong... and here we are.
I can only speak for myself, but Blizzards transparent mobile cash grab would not have been so bad were it no so utterly tone-death. I mean we can't blame them for chasing a market that has such low overheads but such high returns. But the implications of how they went about doing it demonstrates a company that at best is no longer in touch with it's core audience and at worst is treating them with utter contempt. This was the very definition of a bait and switch. Take a huge fan base made primarily of PC (and console) gamers, along with one of their most iconic franchises, and then launch it to them exclusively on Mobile, as if the very fact that switching to a platform that targets a completely different demographic would somehow go unnoticed, and even be applauded, simply blows my mind. It is this level or arrogance that has me feeling utterly disgusted with Blizzard as a company. I feel like their true colors have been shown. As a result, I finally went ahead and downloaded PoE. I've spent the last couple of days really getting my teeth into this game and frankly I have to thank Blizzard for pissing me off so much that I finally went and tried something new. This game is amazing and I won't be playing much of anything else anytime soon.
I just looked up PoE and I think it means "Path of Exile" I've never heard of it before, I may try it out. I agree with you 100% about Blizzards business decisions, but they haven't turned me off completely yet.
IPO's ruin everything. From that point on it's only about projected growth potential. Blizzard is a great example to observe. Where do you think all the microtransactions are coming from?
Before ten or twenty years if a game wasn’t good, it wasn’t good. That was it. Nowadays it feels a stab in the back. It feels like they using something you really loved and cared to shove shit down your throat.
SupeBro. The detail of your analysis is truly frightening if this is what the future beholds for Blizzard fans. Your video really stands out from others because you ALWAYS explain the reasons so well. Six years and no Diablo is NOT BY Accident. It is a very said for of all of use that once considered the Blizzard as the "untouchable."
Hey man thanks. You can call me Basil. The other retrobro is super busy atm and can't make videos. I definitely wanted to make my video a bit different than all of the rage videos. I'm planning on 1 or two more parts talking about all the decisions they've made that have led to this point. As much as it hurts to admit, my hype for any Diablo 4 game... is disappearing quickly.
Activision Blizzard is the holding company, they publish no games. Activision and Blizzard never merged. That is simply wrong. Vivendi Games and Activision mergered, with Vivendi as the major shareholder. Vivendi owned Blizzard. Eventually Bobby Kotick lead the effort to separate Acivision Blizzard from Vivendi. Blizzard has changed. Their new developers play mobile games. Blizzard has talked about mobile games for years. Blizzard has talked about micro-transactions for years. I suspect Blizzard will not release Diablo 4 until they figure a way to include micro-transactions. This is all Blizzard being Blizzard with their next generation of developers.
"How do you feel about the full throttle shift to mobile?" It basically confirms my suspicions that the Blizzard I knew and loved is dead. The devs have all changed, the executives rule, and the company ethos has shifted. As an entity, Blizzard does not consider the players or games their top priority. I still remember back in the day when Blizzard would delay the release of games by years, or cancel games altogether because they weren't up to snuff (RIP SC:Ghost and Lord of Clans). I remember when it was a common joke among my friends that Blizzard games had no hard release date, just "When it's ready." They had a commitment to quality over profit that was really admirable, and earned them the love of millions. But nowadays, even if I enjoy some of their game features and more modern releases, the company that I respected no longer exists. This mobile shift basically confirms suspicions I've fostered for years. The Blizzard I admired is dead. I hope the good devs remaining in their company jump ship sooner as opposed to later, because there is still some real talent at Blizz HQ. I would love to see that talent working on projects with more integrity.
Personally I cant wait until a family friendly Nightmare on Elm Street movie is made. Imagine the large audience they could reach once Freddy is rated G.
I agree with your points regarding microtransactions. But I personally like the reduced need to interact with people. Squabbling over loot for example was always something I hated. Also the need for scheduled raid times is also something I can't commit to. If anything, I'd like it if they made it even easier to help me find like-minded individuals with the closer goals and skills as myself. I've been putting off mythic Island expeditions this week for a few days now because I don't feel like talking. It would be great if they added systems for party coordination other than using voice.
Sadly I guess it is time for us to let go of our childhood memories and just cherish what we once had. Lets look ahead towards those studios and their projects that shed light in this dreaded industry. And I am really happy to see many that are looking to be really great. Future is not all bad ppl
To be fair to companies, its us the consumer that's to blame for this. But its also another thing entirely to just assume that EVERYONE is an idiot, and would be satisfied with blatant garbage disguised as quality gaming. Blizzard and Activision actually did us a favour to address an issue which is apparently OK with consumers.
So, in 2008 Activision bought/merged with Blizzard. I never payed attention to this but it now explains the slow decline of what was my favorite game. RIP WOW.
Great job breaking down the problems and helping the company understand the issues. I think Blizzard didn't realize the corporate backlash our entire generation feels when profits overrule quality and customer input. When a customer tolerates the changes, but gets pushed over the edge, there will be major backlash because we already felt disenfranchised for a long time. The only reason Diablo 3 survived was because they were forced to change the game based on customer input or the entire franchise would have died away. The auction house was a complete failure. Blizzard has been allowed to tread a fine line of customer frustration because of the care they put into their customer base. The mobile game felt like a slap in the face when the customer base already feels that the company evolution has damaged their games and reputation. We are passionate about our PC games. We are passionate about challenging and immersive experiences. We don't want the games to be easy or to be pandered to or to be micro transactions. We are people, not bank accounts to be drained.
5 things that ruined wow: 1. Flying in azeroth. -No real pvp or random encounters in the world anymore. 2. You can solo pretty much everything today. -Before quests and zones were so hard that the game forced you to socialize and find friends. Thats how I've learned english as a kid, because the game forced me to learn it so I could play the content with other people. There was no way you could go to Western or Eastern Plaguelands and just solo throughout the zone. This was the beginning of many new friendships and even marriages that still last to this day. 3. Microtransactions. -Not much to say about this, everything is already said. 4. Lazy writing. -With every expansion the writing seems more and more poor with many beloved characters being ruined or thrown in trash for nothing, such as infamous green jesus situatuion or killing of Vol'jin for example, a character that was being developed throughout the exapnsions just to be killed in cinematic by a random felguard. Pointless moves by Blizzard just to bring some drama to the moment, giving it no real meaning in the long run. Cheezy lines and dialogues making it really cringey to watch sometimes. 5. Toxic community. -Expected when you push your game to become more mainstream. Before the game mainly focused on its fans and now it focuses heavily on new players, killing all the magic the game had along the way and what it was really all about back then. I've also heard that the atmosphere at workplace in Blizzard is just as toxic as it is its community these days. All in all the Blizzard has lost its touch with the fans, and doesn't give a crap what the fans want. Another great company fallen because of the corporations, greed, money and more money. Such a shame Blizzard, such a fking shame..
Spot on brother. Thanks to WoW we never got WC4... it was the beginning of the end of Blizzard as a gamers first dev. I post this before starting to watch the video. Too much money spoils anyone in the long run.
The point on dead servers and cross realm is spot on i fucking hate cross realm and i hate the fact they won't merge low pop servers even my server on EU is dieing now and this was a High pop now down to Medium as every fucka is moving to a Full server as they are fed up of everything getting dead.
Not only that but I play both normal and lfr raids and they are the same shit different difficulty, u still have to comunicate and cooperate and if u get a new guy who hasnt done it u break it down for him or u fail the raid. Its still very much about cooperation with others.
Micro transactions destroyed the essence of todays PC gaming... converting games to pay to win system affecting single and rpg games forcing you to spend more money to play...
There is something to be said about getting a group of friends (that you know through gaming together), heading to a dungeon for a raid, accomplishing a feat or being defeated. Everything was much more special back then, you worked for things. Loot was handed out based on what could serve the group the best for the next raid, not "I can change my spec in a second to become a healer from a melee dps'r, give me the loot!" I don't know what state of things are now because I haven't played since Cat, but I saw what was coming. I can imagine it's much worse than Cat. Really too bad as it's probably the only recent game outside of NES/SNES/PS one FFVII, and Amiga games I loved to play. I'm not a walking wallet Activision/Blizzard and EA. Take your micro-transaction crap and shove it where the sun don't shine. I'm a gamer that enjoys playing good games, unfortunately they don't seem to make those anymore.
I definitely wanted to go into all the details more in detail. Wasn't sure how much I could get away with, without boring my audience. I've been a huge WoW fan most of my life, so seeing how much it's changed since Vanilla has saddened me. Are you interested in the classic servers?
FINALLY, a youtuber calls out Blizzard on server and faction transfers where not even Jim Sterling would. It is the worst non-mobile monetization scheme in the gaming industry today. Worse than pay to win, loot boxes, pre-order bonuses, subscriptions, or any other kind of micro transaction. On top of buying expansions and paying a sub, you need to pay a third time to play with other people in an mmo. Instead of fixing dead servers and the snowballing exodus of Alliance players going Horde, they've decided to profit off of it under the guise of "maintaining server communities."
The loot system change is a good thing for WoW, there's nothing more infuriating than going through a dungeon or raid and not getting ANYTHING at all. Fuck that grinding bullshit. There's no place for luck in a reward system for a dungeon, that's bullshit.
I don’t see anything wrong with trying to enter the mobile gaming industry, but they did it on the worst way possible. If diablo 4 was the main part of the diablo segment at blizzcon, no one would have reacted negatively to a mobile game that expands the lore/world of diablo. However, they introduced it as a full fledged game and then tried to shove the “entitled” tag onto us for not wanting to play on our phones. Look at what gears of war and fallout did for mobile games and announcements.. There’s obviously a right way to do it and blizzard just found the wrong way.
Blizzard learned they could get good money from little effort with World of Warcraft. Every 5 months you would pay the full price of a brand new game and all you got was one or another form of grind in WoW, instead. They started focusing on making games/content that kept the players busy, rather than entertained. It is far easier to create activities that keep the players busy than to create interesting, meaningful content. Just make people farm for an item with low drop rates, get reputations through repetitive content and increase the items power constantly so the players always have to work in order to keep up. The items power offered the illusion of becoming stronger than the other players, but when everyone is getting stronger, no one is.. players were actually working hard to keep up with the flow. When item level became something visible it got even worse.. people would have troubles finding groups for various activities if their item level was not on par with the flow.. and they needed those groups because even the story was meant to be finished in a group environment. MMOs are designed to keep players busy in maybe the worst way possible. Consider how long it takes to get anything (not everything.. just one of the items you want) in an MMO and how long it takes to get something similar in a good non-MMO. Even in games like Dark Souls, which usually require a decent amount of effort, you get the items you want so much faster. It is ok to have stuff to do in an MMO, and understandable, it is hard to fill all that with new, meaningful stories, but even without that, there are at least 2 other opposite approaches: LEGO vs MMO. An MMO gives you chores to keep you busy.. LEGO gives you tools or building blocks to empower your imagination. One reason I liked vanilla (although it had quite a few nasty sides as well) was that at some point you reached a ceiling in your progression (if you weren't raising alts). After reaching that ceiling, people were starting to have fun in game without feeling that they wasted precious time that could've been invested in grinding for a chance of better gear. Remember the amount of videos created in WoW back then. I for once participated in some cute RP adventures and battles. What we wanted then were not daylies, titanforged items and mythic+ dungeons.. we were missing tools to help us create our own adventures and to make our impact on the world. We wanted to destroy or rebuild cities. We were organizing various incursions and wars, we were spending half a day in various PvP encounters and we had people join us because they were not busy farming for the chance of a small increase in their ilevel. Anyways.. apart from that easy money, they decided to add the microtransactions. Full price + monthly fee and you still didn't have all in the game.. if you wanted all, you had to pay extra. And this is visible in all their recent games. Grind vs tools or meaningful content, direct microtransactions or even timed limited offers through in-game or real world events. You want to have all the skins in a game? Pay to get chests during certain periods of time, buy digital collector edition of some other game you might not like, buy Blizzcon ticket, get twitch prime and who knows what else. As for Blizzcon, it's one interesting scam.. they want us to basically pay them so they will advertise their games to us.. it's almost like paying to receive ads.
Whoa, never really put 2 to 2 together about the garrison missions being a mobile game design implemented in a full game. But, then again, I don't play mobile games, so I guess I wouldn't notice it.
The day blizzard fixes WoW is the day hell freezes over. Also would be really cool if garrisons were like the following instead of just a mobile game: Either 1. A PvP base that's capturable through a wintergrasp style battle, giving bonuses in the zone to the faction and guild that owns it, and there's also outposts and small bases as well, which could be captured to make an assault on the enemy garrison much easier. it would be an awesome world pvp thing. or 2. Like normal but less of a mobile game and feels more like a garrison and no phasing, you can join your followers in their quest to help them, and some may die in the process, and other players can help your followers or end them (of course, you can only kill someone's followers if the user is not in pvp mode, and if the follower is not in a contested zone or zone of the opposing faction, however safer zones means less rewards) And followers of each players may band up together just like real players. It would be fucking sick to have your own npcs which act like actual followers. And some followers may have their own set of skills and class you could train them in, So they could become a miner or a warrior, or a healer, or a pvp warrior to fend off enemy players. And the reward for progressing your garrison like that? maybe some unique crafting recipes, or a cool item with vanilla style chance on hit effect (like stuns target for 1 second) or some other fun stuff also your followers may request help from other players, other players getting experience, a little bit of silver, and maybe a blue or green out of the quest. and you can send followers in groups. However followers wont do your quests and raids and dungeons for you obviously. This would have made WoD way more fun to play
They say "Every good thing comes to an end." and Blizzard is no exception. Throw all of those Blizzard collectibles* and box sets into the trash and move on. * 'Collectibles' as in, they collected your cash and now you are stuck storing mounds of cardboard, plastic, and worthless tinsel that in reality, no one will want when you finally decide to sell them.
I remember a time when player hype was everything... now it seems large corporations can just milk consumers for the max amount of cash. Diablo Immortal will make a zillion dollars (90% of it in China) but at what cost. Are we at a crossroads where player feedback doesn't matter? And attacking the playerbase > listening to them? ('just don't buy it', 'don't you have phones?', 'entitled gamers')... its quite shocking to me
I feel sad. It's like my best friend started shooting heroine into his eye lids and doesn't care about me anymore, and in the syringe is the peoples $. The shop is price gouging at its finest, but still necessary (except for the boost) Do I think these changes contributed to Imortals creation? Probably. Even though the community fought these systems back to the pit of hell, Activision is evil enough to know that if you feed the starving, shit, they'll reject it. But if you coat it in sprinkles and salt and say that's all you're getting, people will chomp down on some shit. Blizzard is trying to break us, and the reaction we gave to immortal was beautiful. It's still shocking to me that they revealed Immortal in such a laughable way. Great vid, btw.
I still fail to see the major problem with what everyone is complaining about, Is it microtransactions? is it the games themselves? the direction? Cosmetic only microtransactions are 100% completely fine, it has 0 impacts on gameplay. I get people want to be pretty and have colorful ways to express yourself and your characters. But there are grinds to also achieve that. With regards, to the games themselves, they are run by game designers and general lead developers. Those and maybe the people above them will help guide the general direction of games. Sure the money side of things may come into play with how can we maximize profit. But ultimately everyone knows if a game sells poorly and is a bad game.. Then there is no repeat business and thus no microtransactions to profit from. So making a good game is important to everyone for that reason. Look at overwatch, it sold massively, is considered one of the best games ever. but the microtransactions impact gameplay 0, once you've brought the game that's it, done unless you want to buy a skin, I get people are pissed off I do, But I also think people are focusing too much on the negatives, Blizzard has changed hands since its IPO a few times and its never stopped them from producing good games and good content. Sure some things are bad and awkward but clearly, everyone here has had major enjoyment out of this company to be this passionate. Remember the good times and hope for better ones tomorrow.
When the marketing executives start running the company unfortunately you start to see a lot of these sort of practices. I think after the massive cashcow success of hearthstone blizzard realized how much of a money maker the mobile market would be and they disregarded their original fans unfortunately.
Yup. Hearthstone solidified the idea to Blizzard that a game can be free and you could make potentially more money than even WoW did at peak subscribers. Insane. It seems that we're on the backburner.
@@TheSuperRetroBros another really great video as always my man. I'm excited for part 2 as I really enjoy your style. Its very interesting. Do you have a patreon? ;)
Haha no we do not. I'm not really sure how Patreon even works. Maybe we'll open one if we keep up some steam here. We definitely enjoy the fact people are giving this video some attention. Hard breaking through on UA-cam.
@@TheSuperRetroBros I think it would be a great idea to start sooner then later. As your channel grows your older videos will still get a large amount of viewage years later. If you add your patreon now, even if it doesn't get any attention in the beginning it will pay off in the end. Do you use Instagram? I have around 13k followers on there and know a few things about social media and would love to help or shout you out. If you want to send me a message we can chat! I'm @honestchuckle.
I play both mobile and PC games. Here are some facts: I pay approximately $50-100/mo for my mobile gaming, whereas my PC gaming expenditure is close to $0 after I made the initial purchase. Think about it as a game developing company. Of course any sane person will tell you should immediate switch to the new business model that is the future: mobile gaming with micro-transaction, if you want to thrive. The profit margin of this new business model is 100 times more than the traditional 1-off sale model and it brings in non-stop future revenue + more accessible to a broader audience. I will say it is madness as a company if you don't see it and don't switch to this new business model asap and leverage the most out of it. Sorry, as much as some of us older folks who didn't grow up with mobile gaming, this is progress, and the world changes from era to the next, just like in the past 100 years and more.
Speaking in more of a general situation, i think the big problems for games in general started when DLC's for games was introduced. DLCs might be a result of companys looking at the desire and possitive feedback of expantions for games and people payed for it. For example Starcraft was a big game of its on, then the expantion Brood Wars were just as big of a game added on top of it. Companys were starting as a result to produce incomplete games for full price and then adding DLC packs for the player to complete the game for extra money. It is a very dirty buisness model, but it does not seem like most players are looking at it from that angle. I have however and it annoys me greatly. The time when companys offered us a complete game for a one time payment is almost completly gone and now replaced with broken games, full of DLCs and microtransactions in order to get the full playing experience. To return to my favorite game Starcraft. Starcraft was a fully developed game and so was Brood Wars. Starcraft 2 however was a game broken into 3 different games to get 3 times as much money for the game.
So topical with Blizzard about to add these same microtransactions to TBC. As it stands, TBC Beta is live and they are selling 58 boosts and rumored mounts. Maybe someone in the future reads this message, when Activision are asking for blood as a subscription and the UA-cam algorithm shows you that players saw it all coming.
Definitely one of the best games ever created. Perfect reflection of PC gaming and D&D in one. I remember watching my big brother play that game and just in complete awe of all the things you could do. Super complex, but super rewarding.
Blizzard burying their selves. Why did they even think this was a good idea. I don’t understand how out of touch a company like this can be with its people.
I've always supported Blizzard to an extent even after D3's terrible release, Hearthstone's huge reliance on P2W policies, and Overwatch's lootboxes. However, this has to be the most out of touch decision they've ever made.
"Blizzard burying their selves" wish that were the case. They are reaching towards the new pool of players that dont care about the depth of game, as long as it is just addictive, they dont care about the old player anymore as the new pool is filled with $$$ that they could never get from the old playerbase.
This is what has all so alarmed. This is for the fact that they took there time to set out a game before launch and that reason was the fans. We all know why to I don't even need to say why. We are no longer the goal that they had in mind was to make a game for us they wanted to play, no we are the green slime oozing out of every consumers pocket books and banks!
Worst thing is, most hardcore pc gamers i know, dont really prioritize to own a high end phones to play with. Maybe for reading mails, and look at FB, news once in a while.. I invest everything in my pc setup, and to this day use a HTC desire from 2010. They unfortunly lost me there, im not buying a new phone to play, a game that is not even posibble to play at full «hardcore» potential.
I'll make it short. If World of Warcraft wants to survive the new market, they better get to work on World of Warcraft 2. It's the chance to implore a brand new engine. It's a chance to build a whole new world. It's the chance to bring in the new generation of gamers. People DON'T BUY the current World of Warcraft because it costs way too much money to get current. In short they are going to die without having a chance to build something new that the fans deserve.
I would point towards warcraft 3 or diablo 3 when blizzard started changing on a watered down game-play. I feel blizzard wanted units to do less so there would be less to balance but that just paved the way to one side having advantages like crypt fiends, it felt like warcraft 3's hero system and upkeep all favored a less complicated game though.
I think, Blizzard needs to pull out Diablo Immortal and instead port the previously-released Diablo II into mobile, because everyone hates microtransactions and compulsive online that already oversaturated the market.
Thought this was a really fantastic and well done video. I used to really love playing WoW, but have such a hard time playing it anymore these days mainly because of how the community in the servers has been destroyed. You nailed it, in my opinion, to the single player non-social changes that have occurred and it ruined the game for me.
True. I didn't know how much detail I could go into without boring my audience to death. I could definitely expand on a lot of ideas that were implemented - that pointed towards a casual audience shift.
@@TheSuperRetroBros thats fair, i could see it getting boring. Honestly I thought your presentation was top notch I just think more could be said as to why these changes were made and not just "blizzard made these changes and the game is bad" which I dont think you did but I think putting these changes in a bigger context might help in the future. Or maybe I'm just talking out my ass. Good luck regardless
@@kaelmic7476 I've been wanting to make WoW videos for a long time. Most of my subs have come to my channel for Diablo news. It's hard to segue into other subject matters. Maybe I can delve into this kind of stuff at some point in the future if I get some more viewers that are interested!
For a long time united states has been number 1 consumer spending country in gaming market. But starting from 2016 it shifted to china. Blizzard and Netease has been partners for a long time, like 10 years. This is all because Blizzard wanted to get into chinese market. Xi Jinping has been stopping game companies from developing internaly and externaly for a long time. It is impossible for a foreign company outside of china to get a hold of chinese market without the help of chinese company. So Diablo Mobile didn't just happen. It was planned for a long long time. The real question is "Why now?". Well there has been rumors that Xi Jinping will releive some regulations for gaming companies. So for Blizzard, now is the chance.
Really good points that I never even thought about. To this day I have never not been pissed about microtransactions being added to WoW while it is a subscription based game. It has ONLY gotten worse over the years. I am still fond of WoW and I still actively play it but it is nowhere good as it used to be. For me, this game mostly died with the Pandaria expansion. The content is cool and fun but it's also unrewarding.
No, actually activision was working with com2us on mobile games, and ended up making diablo immortal within the time line. Making billion of dollars, and activision just saw dollar signs within their eyes. I am not sure if they released it, but skylanders had a phone game running. Not sure if they releaseed it, or not. If that game had success they also came with diablo immortal. It is just activision doing some cash grab tactics. Don't blame the gamers when the game was made by gamers for hardcore gamers. Not made by non gamers for casual gamers.
I tried hearthstone on mobile for the first time and although it works well and still looks great, the controls where very clunky and I would sometimes make a mistake because my fingers touched the wrong card. It was also hard to read all the info on all the cards from the screen being so small as well as taking so much battery power on my phone. Tetris and way simpler games are perfect for mobile where you dont need to concentrate too much and can pause/stop at any time. Not sure how a game like Diablo is going to work with so much emphasis on multiplayer and power scaling through microtransactions but the small screen is already enough to put me off.
I whole heartly disagree that player specific drops are bad. Imho, its the best thing implemented into any games so far. Playing hours to no end and only then to be screwed over by RNG based dice roll on item you want or need (and you want it, else you would not even bother to play the dungeon/raid/alert in any game), no never again! I dont have time to repeat the same exact thing and expect different result anymore. If im screwed on drops ok, happens. But to compete with market farmers for one single item, nah ill pass. Instanced loot or im not interested in your product.
Stoped playing Midway wrath. Came back to try bfa. I want to play it so bad but can't get into it. To eazy miss the days mobs needed to be thought about now u just pull huge groups and elrun thought everything. I know it will never be the same most of the creaters are probably gone. Mobile is the future and I guess I just don't fit into that dream.
Blizzard as far as Diablo was concerned died after Blizzard North disbanded, and Max and Erich Schaefer left the company. Fortunately, Blizzard North has been reborn as Echtra Games, and are making a MMO ARPG called Torchlight Frontiers (rumored to be why they left Blizzard initially, as Bliz didn't want competition against WoW). Ironically, Diablo Immortal looks like they tried to steal the Torchlight Frontiers idea... Then ruin it by making it not playable on PC lol.
I left WoW at the end of WotLK (had now time to play). When D3 came out i realized that some shit had happend. And when i saw hearstone i finaly understood that Blizzard as a great comapny we knew before does not exist enymore.
You die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
*cough Bioware *cough
Well hope not or cd project red is next
Either die young as a great game or live long enough to be mobile.
We didn't even fathom how universally true this saying would be when it was first uttered...
“You either die a classic or live long enough to see yourself become mobile”
A Quick Message From Blizzard:
We want to start by saying we hear you.
We are awesome at Blizzard, we're award winners. Everything we do is what award winners do, because we have won awards.
Since the moment we stepped into the office on Monday, we have been discussing mobile gaming non-stop. Mobile gaming is amazing.
We love mobile games, we play them all the time. Whether driving, taking a dump, walking along roadways on the way home from school, cooking, babysitting, hanging out with relatives over the holidays, mobile games are perfect for escaping our real world situations. Why do any of those things without simultaneously slaying demons?? Please laugh. hahaha, ok thanks.
So please, all we want is to bring the full Diablo experience to mobile. Those who actually tried the game filled out a questionnaire, and they all answered the only question with the only answer: "YES ITS AWESOME"
So judging by these numbers, we can guarantee it will be well received. It's going to make us a lot of money which is proof your opinions suck.
Please go away now. We hate you.
Sincerely,
Blizzard Entertainment
All credits to SEEDERS from the US D3 FORUM
How can they hear me? I don't have a phone.
@@robertgrant7946 10/10
Referencing the original post that meme was made out of: They have updated D3 with major content two times in six years. They haven't even done so much as a balance patch to shake up the meta in over a full year. Then they post "we hear you" and it's supposed to mean something? Hollow words from an obvious PR post. Sorry if that comes off negative, but it's the truth.
Seems legit!
Nice parody!
They are either lying through their teeth, or they are desperately divided internally. The problem with their statement is that when you start too many projects, the quality of said projects suffers greatly or goes into “development hell” with an extremely long wait time. Look at what’s happening with Square Enix and the FF7 remake - they outsourced their projects and it went into development hell. Will they ever learn?
I don't understand how the wow people let the microtransaction just happen. They not only have to pay money for every new expansion, they have to pay a monthly fee, and even then they get bunch of microtransacions.
They are a whole different group of people from the original player base
You have to understand, this took years and years to fester and slowly grow. Just like in ALL the rest of gaming, it was mostly a slow and gradual process. I haven't played WoW for over 6 years, but I still remember how torn i was about the Celestial Steed back in the days. I must've gone back and forth on wether or not to buy it a dozen times, especially because it was priced so ridiculously high at 25$. But i was HUGELY into the game back then, and since it was the only thing extra they offered at that point i caved and got it in the end.
That's how it started for most people i suppose. And slowly, but surely, we got to where we are now.
Are you talking about services like server change, race change, etc.. or mounts/pets in shop for € ? Because the first one I find "normal", except that it could maybe be a bit cheaper... And the second one I totally don't care and so do 99.99% of hardcore players. If it brings joy to the casuals then it can stay
@@Ilhtilior so if they make so much money out of the microtransactions, why is people paying a monthly subscription, specially if you don't get extra content with it, because you have to pay for expansions anyway. Is money over money over money.
I was there man. I dunno, we just kinda let it go. I remember people kind of protesting the changes. But people were so absorbed into the cosmetic wonder of having a special mount.
I'm all for things that raise money for charities that are time-limited, but random cosmetics are just... eh...
I was disappointed that blizzard outsourced it to a Chinese company instead of redefining what a mobile game can be. Blizzard has always created genre changing products but this feels lazy and greedy.
Patrick Searcey Let’s call it as it is. This isn’t Blizzard anymore, it’s Activision. They’re just whoring the Blizzard name to ride off it’s reputation.
@@driftracerr34 Activision Blizzard is just the name of the publisher, Blizzard and Activision are still separate company's with different teams. So yes, the Blizzard you want to believe died a hero, is still here, and made Diablo Immortal.
@@travellingalchemist3458 Activision Blizzard is the publisher, but Activision bought out Blizzard years ago. Before, Blizzard Entertainment was its own company. Yes, Blizzard has it's own separate team now, but they all answer to Activision and Activision is pulling the strings. So yeah, all the original Blizzard devs that are still there answer to Massah
@@driftracerr34 Haha! That is incredibly misinformed. Activision never bought Blizzard, it just merged with Vivendi games, renaming it Activision Blizzard. Later Blizzard Entertainment and Activision Production bought themselves (Which means they bought Activision Blizzard from Vivendi to become independent). And yes, BOTH of them own Activision Blizzard.
Blizzard and Activision are operated more like separate companies under the umbrella of Activision-Blizzard name. Activision have no say in WoW like Blizzard have no say in Destiny or Call of Duty. It's an urban myth or rather a lie that Activision controls Blizzard. So stop saying Activision is the mystical boogieman that is to blame for Blizzard making bad decisions, just accept that a company you like screwed up.
@@travellingalchemist3458 I probably am. I just remember hearing it from a UA-camr not too long ago, probably misinformed too. Don't have to be a douche about it.
ThesuperRetroBros, 2 things that can help to answer to your question:
1) Moving the studios from San Francisco to Los Angeles is not an innocent decision. A city influence the way people live, the way to look at things and your vision of ascetics. It impacted the shift from authenticity to something more artificial and marketing-based. SInce 2005, Blizzard has lost their most talented employees. When you don't have the right human resources and environment, you can't hire the right talents with a unique and background and culture. They only hire marketing people or 3d/IT experts.
2) Since 2000, globalism and multiculturalism increased puritanism and political correctness, thus complying to family-friendly content. Look what became the d2 christian cross on the paladin shield in d3. Where is the blood bath D2 harem in d3? Blood and nudity being removed from Diablo:Immortal for the chinese market.
3) The drop in quality and authenticity is not confined the United states or video games. Globalism spreads and killed the sense of community, and increased the selfishness and greed. This increased the seek for short-time opportunities, and short term business plans(Let me be clear about this, I appreciate many aspects of globalism, I'm only trying to have a objective view on it)
You can not separate the collapse in artstyle and the greed of Blizzard. Both problems are interlocking. Thank you very much for your videos, pleasant to hear and well structured.
PS: any other way to contact you than twitter?
@@newchaoticorder5372 I would like to stress that I'm atheist myself. To me the Diablo franchise is based on something compatible with historical facts. It's a fact that back in the days, religion played a central role in everyday's life. The most basics fears and emotions were felt through the spectrum of religion. What maes Diablo 1 and 2 beautiful is that it's open's up the players to gothic architecture, arabic culture, maya/aztec culture, Medieval weaponry and arts, and to the relation deep religion and christianism in the western civilisation. I find it beautiful but again, I am atheist. The problem with D3 is that artistic quality is just very low. It's not a religion/atheist problem.
@@newchaoticorder5372 I think this was the best comment section ever
Blizzard has been releasing shit games starting with cataclysm and getting shittier and shittier each year. The golden days of blizzard were Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft1/BW, Warcraft 3 and wow up till Wrath. Was fun while it lasted.
I totally agree that Cataclysm was the beginning of the end. I somehow always find myself playing WoW because some of my best friends play it periodically. But some of the changes in Cata were just inexcusable.
Not gonna lie, was expecting a very mediocre video from a channel this small. Was surprised to find that it was very well-made! While most drag out 5 minutes of content into 10 you did 15 minutes into 10. Good job, I liked it a lot!
Thanks we are growing slowly... I have a full time career so it's hard to keep churning out videos. I try to make them count when I get some time.
Great video! I like the depth you add to the conversation, rather than putting out a video that just echos what's been already said by others.
I'll leave an actual comment too.. haha, blizzard was absorbed by Activision, being a large public traded company, they will always chase growth and profit. The people making big decisions don't play video games or care what we think, they just use data to drive change. The revenue generated from mobile is more than pc and console combined, that is all they care about. It is sad, but we will have smaller studios swoop in to provide what blizzard will inevitably leave behind, like path of exile for example. Blizzard now is only blizzard in name, they do not make the same products as they did.
@randomguy8196 ten cent are smart guys
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I thought tencent was owned by a private party so sad
The whole purpose of the acquisition was for Activision to monetize the IP of and name of Blizzard. They bought it to squeeze as much cash from it as possible. This is them doing that.
When Immortal was announced, my little brothers looked at me, and with anime eyes on the verge of tears, asked, "Does this mean that Diablo II is the last good one there'll ever be?" And with a heavy heart, I gazed off into the ether and replied, "Aye, lads....aye."
Damn, that Diablo 1 intro music just instantly teleported me back to my Compaq Presario in the late 90s! Haven't played D1 + Hellfire in maybe 15 years now! :p
Compaq presario too here :-) Pentium II 256 ram Windows 3.1
Yeah, the church basement song gave me nightmares lmao.
@@TheSuperRetroBros I think I was around 12 the first time I played Diablo. I remember absolutely panicking, mashing everything and dying when I heard "FRESH MEAT" and saw all the blood and people gored on spikes.
It was the most morbid thing I'd seen in a game before, and it looked so realistic! :P
@@jan1080 Dude, I literally ran for my life and hung around the 1st level for a long time before I bothered going back down to The Butcher's room. That scarred me for life loool
Gold duping ftw.
Diablo 3 wasn't even good, this new Diablo is going to be completly useless
It is too bright and colorful (Both figuratively and literally.) D1/D2 was dark and scary. Diablo immortal is just gonna be a watered down D3. Soooo shitty
Immortal doesn’t seem to look or even play like a Diablo game. Ten-second cool down times for your abilities. Hell they even took the health and mana circles out and replaced them with generic health and mana bars.
Hurry up with part 2!
Trying! Full time job is murder on my schedule. Expect something this weekend. Working on two different videos.
@@TheSuperRetroBros excellent! Well worth the sub.
I wouldn't worry too much. The Mobile Gaming crowd has no connection to the IP's being pushed onto that platform. That means those games have to compete based on what they are, not the name they carry. And then Diablo Immortal is nothing more then a reskin of an existing game. Doomed to fail.
Blizzard assumes there is crossplatform loyalty to the brand (of Diablo, but also of their other titles). They will soon come to realize that is wishful thinking.
So true
True. I think the rage is because people have waited a long time for... anything. Obviously, this announcement is just bad decision making on Blizzard's behalf.
Idk bro. Back in the day the mobile version of Cod WaW zombies did pretty well on the app store
I think they could of made this a new IP and avoided this backlash entirely
Blizzard saw a Ryan Reynolds "Toon blast" commercial and thought Hay we should do that with Diablo....its a mobile game.
looooool
Cool analysis, guys. Growth and strength to your channel. Make more!
Thanks my brother, I barely have time to make videos but I'll keep trucking along.
Best Blizzard-related video on UA-cam. Says it all.
Incredible well made and said video! Sums up the whole problem pretty damn well. Thank you for uploading it. I wish, some Blizz workers, one of those, who actually direct their way, not just some random developer, would see this and recognize, what they have done.
I'm have stopped getting surprised, angry or disappointed with AAA/big budget publisher and feel mostly indifference these days. There are some expetions to the pattern of AAA games but I have discovered that I return more often to my older PC games and play more on my PS2 and Xbox 360 again if I want to enjoy big budget titles. I enjoy many of those games more since I feel like they are complete experiences from the start and doesen't require 10 DLCs or microtransactions too feel whole and offer more depth, variation and detail. I can simply play and enjoy the game from start to finnish, having a good time and not spend time feeling cheated of my money because I bought a clearly unfinished product of the same game I have bought 3 years in a row with a slightly different coat of paint. If I want new games which offers actual content and new experiences, Indie or smaller than AAA but still quite big developers and publisher like CD Project red is the way to go.
It's a shame we have no trust in AAA companies as they should be the pinnacles of greatness. The most time and resources available, yet they choose to water down a lot of their games in order to appeal to a casual audience and fill games with DLC. I would think that casuals are going to play whatever game is popular regardless of the difficulty curves and learning process within the game... maybe I'm wrong?
TheSuperRetroBros I think so too. A good product can appeal to core fan bases and people wanting more as well as casuals while the tripe the so called "pinnacle of greatness" so often puts out today is more about the hype and fast sales than the actual product and it's longlevity. casuals will pick it up and play it for a while then move over to something else and dont look back or return for more. While games like Morrowind, Oblivion, the original Thief games, Half-Life 2, Bioshock, Kotor 2 etc are still played, revered and remembered today And are excellent examples that games made for entertainment can be art on the same level as movies or books. Farcry 5, AC odessey, and whatever Bioware is doing these days will probably be forgotten within a year and nobody cares. Casuals aren't loyal, doesen't care about the brand or the people working on it and its disrespectful and sickening when publishers are so full of themselves that they market towards those people but expect the long time fans wanting a better product to just pay, accept and fall in line. It didn't work for the shitty Thief reboot, Star Wars Battlefront and it looks like it wont work for Diablo.
I got a bit carried away in a rant. I would also like to mention that games like the new God of war was a huge success despite being everything AAA are claiming nobody wants to play anymore and I'm sure a lot of "casuals" enjoyed it and even became fans of the series because of its quality content and breath of fresh air with no microtransactions and day one DLCs. It was just being something very simple, a good game:)
This is a great video. I've always told friends how The Burning Crusade was the last Blizzard game I liked which came out in 2007. And coincidentally Blizzard merged with Activision in 2008. Every game Blizzard released after that merge just did not hold up to the Blizzard standard. SC2 was a good game, but it wasn't up to Blizzard-like quality. There were lots of issues, issues that still exist today. That wouldn't happen in a pre-Activision Blizzard game. I hope you make more parts in this series and talk about what really happened inside Blizzard's HQ and what is happening now.
I remember playing Warcraft 1 in HighSchool. I was studying music and I taught myself to play the battle music from the game. I really liked the tune as I had heard nothing like it before.
Fantastic video. The point about loot system (and LFR) leasing to isolation was my immediate feeling after starting up again in MOP after a three year break.
It's the fault of each and everyone of those sheeple who have so little backbone that they are even willing to go to a marketing event of the very company that has been fucking them over for several years now. Mobile is the logical progession of the path they have chosen for the games by their actions. Games like Warcraft and Diablo have been so twisted from what they were when I would play them when I was younger, that they have lost every appeal for me. I'm kind of glad that it now all comes crashing down, and the players reap what they have sown.
I'm curious to hear what your favorite WoW xpac was? Or was it Vanilla? I'm totally in the same boat as you.
Actually I only ever played vanilla WoW. I was refering to the RTS game Warcraft ;) I was pretty big on Diablo, though, especially the second one. My favorite Blizzard game however (even though it doesn't fit this topic at all, as it is a completely different genere) would be Blackthorne, I think.
We were always here, many of us just didn't want to see it. Many were always *_SCREAMING_* about this, but Blizzard could do no wrong... and here we are.
I can only speak for myself, but Blizzards transparent mobile cash grab would not have been so bad were it no so utterly tone-death. I mean we can't blame them for chasing a market that has such low overheads but such high returns. But the implications of how they went about doing it demonstrates a company that at best is no longer in touch with it's core audience and at worst is treating them with utter contempt. This was the very definition of a bait and switch. Take a huge fan base made primarily of PC (and console) gamers, along with one of their most iconic franchises, and then launch it to them exclusively on Mobile, as if the very fact that switching to a platform that targets a completely different demographic would somehow go unnoticed, and even be applauded, simply blows my mind.
It is this level or arrogance that has me feeling utterly disgusted with Blizzard as a company. I feel like their true colors have been shown. As a result, I finally went ahead and downloaded PoE. I've spent the last couple of days really getting my teeth into this game and frankly I have to thank Blizzard for pissing me off so much that I finally went and tried something new. This game is amazing and I won't be playing much of anything else anytime soon.
I just looked up PoE and I think it means "Path of Exile" I've never heard of it before, I may try it out. I agree with you 100% about Blizzards business decisions, but they haven't turned me off completely yet.
IPO's ruin everything. From that point on it's only about projected growth potential. Blizzard is a great example to observe. Where do you think all the microtransactions are coming from?
Before ten or twenty years if a game wasn’t good, it wasn’t good. That was it. Nowadays it feels a stab in the back. It feels like they using something you really loved and cared to shove shit down your throat.
SupeBro. The detail of your analysis is truly frightening if this is what the future beholds for Blizzard fans. Your video really stands out from others because you ALWAYS explain the reasons so well.
Six years and no Diablo is NOT BY Accident. It is a very said for of all of use that once considered the Blizzard as the "untouchable."
Hey man thanks. You can call me Basil. The other retrobro is super busy atm and can't make videos.
I definitely wanted to make my video a bit different than all of the rage videos. I'm planning on 1 or two more parts talking about all the decisions they've made that have led to this point. As much as it hurts to admit, my hype for any Diablo 4 game... is disappearing quickly.
Activision Blizzard is the holding company, they publish no games. Activision and Blizzard never merged. That is simply wrong. Vivendi Games and Activision mergered, with Vivendi as the major shareholder. Vivendi owned Blizzard. Eventually Bobby Kotick lead the effort to separate Acivision Blizzard from Vivendi.
Blizzard has changed. Their new developers play mobile games. Blizzard has talked about mobile games for years. Blizzard has talked about micro-transactions for years. I suspect Blizzard will not release Diablo 4 until they figure a way to include micro-transactions. This is all Blizzard being Blizzard with their next generation of developers.
Imo you sound like: damn the old developers were epic while the "next gen" millennials just dabbing around playing mobile trashes. That's stupid!
"How do you feel about the full throttle shift to mobile?"
It basically confirms my suspicions that the Blizzard I knew and loved is dead. The devs have all changed, the executives rule, and the company ethos has shifted. As an entity, Blizzard does not consider the players or games their top priority. I still remember back in the day when Blizzard would delay the release of games by years, or cancel games altogether because they weren't up to snuff (RIP SC:Ghost and Lord of Clans). I remember when it was a common joke among my friends that Blizzard games had no hard release date, just "When it's ready." They had a commitment to quality over profit that was really admirable, and earned them the love of millions.
But nowadays, even if I enjoy some of their game features and more modern releases, the company that I respected no longer exists. This mobile shift basically confirms suspicions I've fostered for years. The Blizzard I admired is dead. I hope the good devs remaining in their company jump ship sooner as opposed to later, because there is still some real talent at Blizz HQ. I would love to see that talent working on projects with more integrity.
Personally I cant wait until a family friendly Nightmare on Elm Street movie is made. Imagine the large audience they could reach once Freddy is rated G.
I agree with your points regarding microtransactions. But I personally like the reduced need to interact with people. Squabbling over loot for example was always something I hated. Also the need for scheduled raid times is also something I can't commit to. If anything, I'd like it if they made it even easier to help me find like-minded individuals with the closer goals and skills as myself. I've been putting off mythic Island expeditions this week for a few days now because I don't feel like talking. It would be great if they added systems for party coordination other than using voice.
Sadly I guess it is time for us to let go of our childhood memories and just cherish what we once had. Lets look ahead towards those studios and their projects that shed light in this dreaded industry. And I am really happy to see many that are looking to be really great. Future is not all bad ppl
To be fair to companies, its us the consumer that's to blame for this.
But its also another thing entirely to just assume that EVERYONE is an idiot, and would be satisfied with blatant garbage disguised as quality gaming.
Blizzard and Activision actually did us a favour to address an issue which is apparently OK with consumers.
WoW went into a clear decline after they got involved with Activision.
So, in 2008 Activision bought/merged with Blizzard. I never payed attention to this but it now explains the slow decline of what was my favorite game. RIP WOW.
Great job breaking down the problems and helping the company understand the issues. I think Blizzard didn't realize the corporate backlash our entire generation feels when profits overrule quality and customer input. When a customer tolerates the changes, but gets pushed over the edge, there will be major backlash because we already felt disenfranchised for a long time. The only reason Diablo 3 survived was because they were forced to change the game based on customer input or the entire franchise would have died away. The auction house was a complete failure.
Blizzard has been allowed to tread a fine line of customer frustration because of the care they put into their customer base. The mobile game felt like a slap in the face when the customer base already feels that the company evolution has damaged their games and reputation. We are passionate about our PC games. We are passionate about challenging and immersive experiences. We don't want the games to be easy or to be pandered to or to be micro transactions. We are people, not bank accounts to be drained.
5 things that ruined wow:
1. Flying in azeroth.
-No real pvp or random encounters in the world anymore.
2. You can solo pretty much everything today.
-Before quests and zones were so hard that the game forced you to socialize and find friends. Thats how I've learned english as a kid, because the game forced me to learn it so I could play the content with other people. There was no way you could go to Western or Eastern Plaguelands and just solo throughout the zone.
This was the beginning of many new friendships and even marriages that still last to this day.
3. Microtransactions.
-Not much to say about this, everything is already said.
4. Lazy writing.
-With every expansion the writing seems more and more poor with many beloved characters being ruined or thrown in trash for nothing, such as infamous green jesus situatuion or killing of Vol'jin for example, a character that was being developed throughout the exapnsions just to be killed in cinematic by a random felguard.
Pointless moves by Blizzard just to bring some drama to the moment, giving it no real meaning in the long run.
Cheezy lines and dialogues making it really cringey to watch sometimes.
5. Toxic community.
-Expected when you push your game to become more mainstream. Before the game mainly focused on its fans and now it focuses heavily on new players, killing all the magic the game had along the way and what it was really all about back then.
I've also heard that the atmosphere at workplace in Blizzard is just as toxic as it is its community these days.
All in all the Blizzard has lost its touch with the fans, and doesn't give a crap what the fans want. Another great company fallen because of the corporations, greed, money and more money. Such a shame Blizzard, such a fking shame..
Some of my best memories of recent games are from WoW, but you nailed it 100%. Hence why I quit.
How did we get here? Greed. Pure corporate greed.
End of story.
Spot on brother. Thanks to WoW we never got WC4... it was the beginning of the end of Blizzard as a gamers first dev. I post this before starting to watch the video.
Too much money spoils anyone in the long run.
The point on dead servers and cross realm is spot on i fucking hate cross realm and i hate the fact they won't merge low pop servers even my server on EU is dieing now and this was a High pop now down to Medium as every fucka is moving to a Full server as they are fed up of everything getting dead.
removing the ability for people to ninjaloot isnt removing positive social interaction. Autoqueues are.
A single player loot system is definitely another step away from "MMO"
Though I'm inclined to agree with your statement.
Not only that but I play both normal and lfr raids and they are the same shit different difficulty, u still have to comunicate and cooperate and if u get a new guy who hasnt done it u break it down for him or u fail the raid. Its still very much about cooperation with others.
Micro transactions destroyed the essence of todays PC gaming... converting games to pay to win system affecting single and rpg games forcing you to spend more money to play...
There is something to be said about getting a group of friends (that you know through gaming together), heading to a dungeon for a raid, accomplishing a feat or being defeated. Everything was much more special back then, you worked for things. Loot was handed out based on what could serve the group the best for the next raid, not "I can change my spec in a second to become a healer from a melee dps'r, give me the loot!"
I don't know what state of things are now because I haven't played since Cat, but I saw what was coming. I can imagine it's much worse than Cat. Really too bad as it's probably the only recent game outside of NES/SNES/PS one FFVII, and Amiga games I loved to play.
I'm not a walking wallet Activision/Blizzard and EA. Take your micro-transaction crap and shove it where the sun don't shine. I'm a gamer that enjoys playing good games, unfortunately they don't seem to make those anymore.
I'm very concerned with the AI technology, that at some point, they'll be adding player tags to the AI so it seems more populated than it is.
dude.. they are releasing AI bots for pvp very soon.... im pretty scared
The phrase "This country has bought and sold a long time ago".
Thanks for saying what many of us have been saying since the release of Cataclysm. You are an aware consumer.
I definitely wanted to go into all the details more in detail. Wasn't sure how much I could get away with, without boring my audience. I've been a huge WoW fan most of my life, so seeing how much it's changed since Vanilla has saddened me.
Are you interested in the classic servers?
FINALLY, a youtuber calls out Blizzard on server and faction transfers where not even Jim Sterling would. It is the worst non-mobile monetization scheme in the gaming industry today. Worse than pay to win, loot boxes, pre-order bonuses, subscriptions, or any other kind of micro transaction. On top of buying expansions and paying a sub, you need to pay a third time to play with other people in an mmo. Instead of fixing dead servers and the snowballing exodus of Alliance players going Horde, they've decided to profit off of it under the guise of "maintaining server communities."
The loot system change is a good thing for WoW, there's nothing more infuriating than going through a dungeon or raid and not getting ANYTHING at all. Fuck that grinding bullshit. There's no place for luck in a reward system for a dungeon, that's bullshit.
if you replaced all the actual players with NPCs in dungeons, they'd probably chat more.
I don’t see anything wrong with trying to enter the mobile gaming industry, but they did it on the worst way possible. If diablo 4 was the main part of the diablo segment at blizzcon, no one would have reacted negatively to a mobile game that expands the lore/world of diablo. However, they introduced it as a full fledged game and then tried to shove the “entitled” tag onto us for not wanting to play on our phones. Look at what gears of war and fallout did for mobile games and announcements.. There’s obviously a right way to do it and blizzard just found the wrong way.
Blizzard learned they could get good money from little effort with World of Warcraft. Every 5 months you would pay the full price of a brand new game and all you got was one or another form of grind in WoW, instead. They started focusing on making games/content that kept the players busy, rather than entertained. It is far easier to create activities that keep the players busy than to create interesting, meaningful content. Just make people farm for an item with low drop rates, get reputations through repetitive content and increase the items power constantly so the players always have to work in order to keep up. The items power offered the illusion of becoming stronger than the other players, but when everyone is getting stronger, no one is.. players were actually working hard to keep up with the flow. When item level became something visible it got even worse.. people would have troubles finding groups for various activities if their item level was not on par with the flow.. and they needed those groups because even the story was meant to be finished in a group environment. MMOs are designed to keep players busy in maybe the worst way possible. Consider how long it takes to get anything (not everything.. just one of the items you want) in an MMO and how long it takes to get something similar in a good non-MMO. Even in games like Dark Souls, which usually require a decent amount of effort, you get the items you want so much faster. It is ok to have stuff to do in an MMO, and understandable, it is hard to fill all that with new, meaningful stories, but even without that, there are at least 2 other opposite approaches: LEGO vs MMO. An MMO gives you chores to keep you busy.. LEGO gives you tools or building blocks to empower your imagination. One reason I liked vanilla (although it had quite a few nasty sides as well) was that at some point you reached a ceiling in your progression (if you weren't raising alts). After reaching that ceiling, people were starting to have fun in game without feeling that they wasted precious time that could've been invested in grinding for a chance of better gear. Remember the amount of videos created in WoW back then. I for once participated in some cute RP adventures and battles. What we wanted then were not daylies, titanforged items and mythic+ dungeons.. we were missing tools to help us create our own adventures and to make our impact on the world. We wanted to destroy or rebuild cities. We were organizing various incursions and wars, we were spending half a day in various PvP encounters and we had people join us because they were not busy farming for the chance of a small increase in their ilevel. Anyways.. apart from that easy money, they decided to add the microtransactions. Full price + monthly fee and you still didn't have all in the game.. if you wanted all, you had to pay extra. And this is visible in all their recent games. Grind vs tools or meaningful content, direct microtransactions or even timed limited offers through in-game or real world events. You want to have all the skins in a game? Pay to get chests during certain periods of time, buy digital collector edition of some other game you might not like, buy Blizzcon ticket, get twitch prime and who knows what else. As for Blizzcon, it's one interesting scam.. they want us to basically pay them so they will advertise their games to us.. it's almost like paying to receive ads.
Whoa, never really put 2 to 2 together about the garrison missions being a mobile game design implemented in a full game. But, then again, I don't play mobile games, so I guess I wouldn't notice it.
I know this doesn't quite fit but.. HECK YES HEROES III! Best turn based strategy ever made.
The day blizzard fixes WoW is the day hell freezes over.
Also would be really cool if garrisons were like the following instead of just a mobile game:
Either 1. A PvP base that's capturable through a wintergrasp style battle, giving bonuses in the zone to the faction and guild that owns it, and there's also outposts and small bases as well, which could be captured to make an assault on the enemy garrison much easier. it would be an awesome world pvp thing.
or
2. Like normal but less of a mobile game and feels more like a garrison and no phasing, you can join your followers in their quest to help them, and some may die in the process, and other players can help your followers or end them (of course, you can only kill someone's followers if the user is not in pvp mode, and if the follower is not in a contested zone or zone of the opposing faction, however safer zones means less rewards)
And followers of each players may band up together just like real players.
It would be fucking sick to have your own npcs which act like actual followers.
And some followers may have their own set of skills and class you could train them in, So they could become a miner or a warrior, or a healer, or a pvp warrior to fend off enemy players.
And the reward for progressing your garrison like that? maybe some unique crafting recipes, or a cool item with vanilla style chance on hit effect (like stuns target for 1 second) or some other fun stuff
also your followers may request help from other players, other players getting experience, a little bit of silver, and maybe a blue or green out of the quest.
and you can send followers in groups.
However followers wont do your quests and raids and dungeons for you obviously.
This would have made WoD way more fun to play
Short-term? Yeah, I guess it's financially okay. Long term? You fucked up Blizzard.
They say "Every good thing comes to an end." and Blizzard is no exception.
Throw all of those Blizzard collectibles* and box sets into the trash and move on.
* 'Collectibles' as in, they collected your cash and now you are stuck storing mounds of cardboard, plastic, and worthless tinsel that in reality, no one will want when you finally decide to sell them.
The moment I first saw that celestial steed appear for cash I knew WoW was dead. I also knew that there were strange dark forces at work.
wow my old server is alive and kicking Glory to Quel`thalas
Paddok former member of The Shining Dawn
I remember a time when player hype was everything... now it seems large corporations can just milk consumers for the max amount of cash. Diablo Immortal will make a zillion dollars (90% of it in China) but at what cost. Are we at a crossroads where player feedback doesn't matter? And attacking the playerbase > listening to them? ('just don't buy it', 'don't you have phones?', 'entitled gamers')... its quite shocking to me
I feel sad. It's like my best friend started shooting heroine into his eye lids and doesn't care about me anymore, and in the syringe is the peoples $. The shop is price gouging at its finest, but still necessary (except for the boost) Do I think these changes contributed to Imortals creation? Probably. Even though the community fought these systems back to the pit of hell, Activision is evil enough to know that if you feed the starving, shit, they'll reject it. But if you coat it in sprinkles and salt and say that's all you're getting, people will chomp down on some shit. Blizzard is trying to break us, and the reaction we gave to immortal was beautiful. It's still shocking to me that they revealed Immortal in such a laughable way.
Great vid, btw.
Corporate investors are the real target audience. Consumerism never sucked so much.
I still fail to see the major problem with what everyone is complaining about, Is it microtransactions? is it the games themselves? the direction?
Cosmetic only microtransactions are 100% completely fine, it has 0 impacts on gameplay. I get people want to be pretty and have colorful ways to express yourself and your characters. But there are grinds to also achieve that.
With regards, to the games themselves, they are run by game designers and general lead developers. Those and maybe the people above them will help guide the general direction of games. Sure the money side of things may come into play with how can we maximize profit. But ultimately everyone knows if a game sells poorly and is a bad game.. Then there is no repeat business and thus no microtransactions to profit from. So making a good game is important to everyone for that reason. Look at overwatch, it sold massively, is considered one of the best games ever. but the microtransactions impact gameplay 0, once you've brought the game that's it, done unless you want to buy a skin,
I get people are pissed off I do, But I also think people are focusing too much on the negatives, Blizzard has changed hands since its IPO a few times and its never stopped them from producing good games and good content. Sure some things are bad and awkward but clearly, everyone here has had major enjoyment out of this company to be this passionate. Remember the good times and hope for better ones tomorrow.
When the marketing executives start running the company unfortunately you start to see a lot of these sort of practices. I think after the massive cashcow success of hearthstone blizzard realized how much of a money maker the mobile market would be and they disregarded their original fans unfortunately.
Yup. Hearthstone solidified the idea to Blizzard that a game can be free and you could make potentially more money than even WoW did at peak subscribers. Insane.
It seems that we're on the backburner.
@@TheSuperRetroBros another really great video as always my man. I'm excited for part 2 as I really enjoy your style. Its very interesting. Do you have a patreon? ;)
Haha no we do not. I'm not really sure how Patreon even works. Maybe we'll open one if we keep up some steam here.
We definitely enjoy the fact people are giving this video some attention. Hard breaking through on UA-cam.
@@TheSuperRetroBros I think it would be a great idea to start sooner then later. As your channel grows your older videos will still get a large amount of viewage years later. If you add your patreon now, even if it doesn't get any attention in the beginning it will pay off in the end. Do you use Instagram? I have around 13k followers on there and know a few things about social media and would love to help or shout you out. If you want to send me a message we can chat! I'm @honestchuckle.
Fair point and good advice. We'll definitely hit you up!
'you reap what you sew'...
Amazing Diablo I music intro! On point
I play both mobile and PC games. Here are some facts: I pay approximately $50-100/mo for my mobile gaming, whereas my PC gaming expenditure is close to $0 after I made the initial purchase. Think about it as a game developing company. Of course any sane person will tell you should immediate switch to the new business model that is the future: mobile gaming with micro-transaction, if you want to thrive. The profit margin of this new business model is 100 times more than the traditional 1-off sale model and it brings in non-stop future revenue + more accessible to a broader audience. I will say it is madness as a company if you don't see it and don't switch to this new business model asap and leverage the most out of it. Sorry, as much as some of us older folks who didn't grow up with mobile gaming, this is progress, and the world changes from era to the next, just like in the past 100 years and more.
Speaking in more of a general situation, i think the big problems for games in general started when DLC's for games was introduced. DLCs might be a result of companys looking at the desire and possitive feedback of expantions for games and people payed for it. For example Starcraft was a big game of its on, then the expantion Brood Wars were just as big of a game added on top of it. Companys were starting as a result to produce incomplete games for full price and then adding DLC packs for the player to complete the game for extra money. It is a very dirty buisness model, but it does not seem like most players are looking at it from that angle. I have however and it annoys me greatly. The time when companys offered us a complete game for a one time payment is almost completly gone and now replaced with broken games, full of DLCs and microtransactions in order to get the full playing experience. To return to my favorite game Starcraft. Starcraft was a fully developed game and so was Brood Wars. Starcraft 2 however was a game broken into 3 different games to get 3 times as much money for the game.
So topical with Blizzard about to add these same microtransactions to TBC. As it stands, TBC Beta is live and they are selling 58 boosts and rumored mounts.
Maybe someone in the future reads this message, when Activision are asking for blood as a subscription and the UA-cam algorithm shows you that players saw it all coming.
Thx for great work, man!
I think these changes were more of a symptom rather than a cause. The reason why blizz is going his route has to do with executive decisions
Plus blizzard north closed down. They created diablo I and ii
You mentioned baldur's gate...I subscribed!
Definitely one of the best games ever created. Perfect reflection of PC gaming and D&D in one. I remember watching my big brother play that game and just in complete awe of all the things you could do. Super complex, but super rewarding.
Blizzard burying their selves. Why did they even think this was a good idea. I don’t understand how out of touch a company like this can be with its people.
I've always supported Blizzard to an extent even after D3's terrible release, Hearthstone's huge reliance on P2W policies, and Overwatch's lootboxes. However, this has to be the most out of touch decision they've ever made.
"Blizzard burying their selves" wish that were the case. They are reaching towards the new pool of players that dont care about the depth of game, as long as it is just addictive, they dont care about the old player anymore as the new pool is filled with $$$ that they could never get from the old playerbase.
HS wasn’t p2w for the 3 or so years I played. I was always legendary and never spent a penny.
Quit WoW well owning 3 accounts after Cat was released.
That was enough for me, combined with D3, they've lost my money. No more.
Jeff Kaplan last defender of blizzard from the evil of Activision
This is what has all so alarmed. This is for the fact that they took there time to set out a game before launch and that reason was the fans. We all know why to I don't even need to say why. We are no longer the goal that they had in mind was to make a game for us they wanted to play, no we are the green slime oozing out of every consumers pocket books and banks!
Worst thing is, most hardcore pc gamers i know, dont really prioritize to own a high end phones to play with. Maybe for reading mails, and look at FB, news once in a while..
I invest everything in my pc setup, and to this day use a HTC desire from 2010.
They unfortunly lost me there, im not buying a new phone to play, a game that is not even posibble to play at full «hardcore» potential.
I'll make it short. If World of Warcraft wants to survive the new market, they better get to work on World of Warcraft 2. It's the chance to implore a brand new engine. It's a chance to build a whole new world. It's the chance to bring in the new generation of gamers. People DON'T BUY the current World of Warcraft because it costs way too much money to get current.
In short they are going to die without having a chance to build something new that the fans deserve.
I would point towards warcraft 3 or diablo 3 when blizzard started changing on a watered down game-play. I feel blizzard wanted units to do less so there would be less to balance but that just paved the way to one side having advantages like crypt fiends, it felt like warcraft 3's hero system and upkeep all favored a less complicated game though.
"Was at a competitive Smash Tournament." Hmmmm I wonder which one??????
As of 2018 blizzard does not have a ‘mmorpg’ on the market
Devs on mobile games for all IPs - it's clear the future of the once famous and beloved company..
I think, Blizzard needs to pull out Diablo Immortal and instead port the previously-released Diablo II into mobile, because everyone hates microtransactions and compulsive online that already oversaturated the market.
Thought this was a really fantastic and well done video. I used to really love playing WoW, but have such a hard time playing it anymore these days mainly because of how the community in the servers has been destroyed. You nailed it, in my opinion, to the single player non-social changes that have occurred and it ruined the game for me.
I saw the writing on the wall when the fremium pay2win non videogame took off.
That was a really barebones discussion of wow, I dont think you really scratched the surface.
True. I didn't know how much detail I could go into without boring my audience to death. I could definitely expand on a lot of ideas that were implemented - that pointed towards a casual audience shift.
@@TheSuperRetroBros thats fair, i could see it getting boring. Honestly I thought your presentation was top notch I just think more could be said as to why these changes were made and not just "blizzard made these changes and the game is bad" which I dont think you did but I think putting these changes in a bigger context might help in the future. Or maybe I'm just talking out my ass. Good luck regardless
@@kaelmic7476
I've been wanting to make WoW videos for a long time. Most of my subs have come to my channel for Diablo news. It's hard to segue into other subject matters. Maybe I can delve into this kind of stuff at some point in the future if I get some more viewers that are interested!
@@TheSuperRetroBros hey man, you can do it! I believe in you.
For a long time united states has been number 1 consumer spending country in gaming market. But starting from 2016 it shifted to china.
Blizzard and Netease has been partners for a long time, like 10 years. This is all because Blizzard wanted to get into chinese market. Xi Jinping has been stopping game companies from developing internaly and externaly for a long time. It is impossible for a foreign company outside of china to get a hold of chinese market without the help of chinese company. So Diablo Mobile didn't just happen. It was planned for a long long time.
The real question is "Why now?". Well there has been rumors that Xi Jinping will releive some regulations for gaming companies. So for Blizzard, now is the chance.
Really good points that I never even thought about. To this day I have never not been pissed about microtransactions being added to WoW while it is a subscription based game. It has ONLY gotten worse over the years. I am still fond of WoW and I still actively play it but it is nowhere good as it used to be.
For me, this game mostly died with the Pandaria expansion. The content is cool and fun but it's also unrewarding.
ActivisionBlizzard stock price on Nov2, the friday before BlizzCon: $68.99. Closing price on Nov16: $50.94.
FU BLIZZ
No, actually activision was working with com2us on mobile games, and ended up making diablo immortal within the time line. Making billion of dollars, and activision just saw dollar signs within their eyes. I am not sure if they released it, but skylanders had a phone game running. Not sure if they releaseed it, or not. If that game had success they also came with diablo immortal. It is just activision doing some cash grab tactics. Don't blame the gamers when the game was made by gamers for hardcore gamers. Not made by non gamers for casual gamers.
Subbed , waiting for part 2!
I tried hearthstone on mobile for the first time and although it works well and still looks great, the controls where very clunky and I would sometimes make a mistake because my fingers touched the wrong card. It was also hard to read all the info on all the cards from the screen being so small as well as taking so much battery power on my phone. Tetris and way simpler games are perfect for mobile where you dont need to concentrate too much and can pause/stop at any time. Not sure how a game like Diablo is going to work with so much emphasis on multiplayer and power scaling through microtransactions but the small screen is already enough to put me off.
I whole heartly disagree that player specific drops are bad. Imho, its the best thing implemented into any games so far. Playing hours to no end and only then to be screwed over by RNG based dice roll on item you want or need (and you want it, else you would not even bother to play the dungeon/raid/alert in any game), no never again! I dont have time to repeat the same exact thing and expect different result anymore. If im screwed on drops ok, happens. But to compete with market farmers for one single item, nah ill pass. Instanced loot or im not interested in your product.
Because blizzard sold out to Activision many years ago.
Stoped playing Midway wrath. Came back to try bfa. I want to play it so bad but can't get into it. To eazy miss the days mobs needed to be thought about now u just pull huge groups and elrun thought everything. I know it will never be the same most of the creaters are probably gone. Mobile is the future and I guess I just don't fit into that dream.
Thought I'd never say this but it's time to Boycott Blizzard.
Blizzard as far as Diablo was concerned died after Blizzard North disbanded, and Max and Erich Schaefer left the company. Fortunately, Blizzard North has been reborn as Echtra Games, and are making a MMO ARPG called Torchlight Frontiers (rumored to be why they left Blizzard initially, as Bliz didn't want competition against WoW). Ironically, Diablo Immortal looks like they tried to steal the Torchlight Frontiers idea... Then ruin it by making it not playable on PC lol.
I left WoW at the end of WotLK (had now time to play). When D3 came out i realized that some shit had happend. And when i saw hearstone i finaly understood that Blizzard as a great comapny we knew before does not exist enymore.
angry, that's how i feel about Blizzard's mobile plans