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YongYea Well 3 times the charm. Could you PLS cover the Rainbow Six censorship controversy, as it show ubisofts plain hypocrisy when it comes to gambling in games.
@YongYea , I don’t know if you see this but I hope you do. I don’t know if even you are aware of this but UA-cam seems to be running an algorithm that not only do they not admit too but I have witnessed it myself across several videos and now even yours, comments that reach a certain age are automatically removed from the comment section, technically they are ghosted as you can still view your own comments when signed in or any featured posts but right now on your previous video from yesterday no comments (except yours) older than 19 hours are visible to the public, all ghosted. I believe it’s to allow better engagement as there are those more likely to comment if it looks like less comments are in the way of climbing the comments section. This is not right having so many comments no longer visible to the public that people took time to write. I have seen the same thing across multiple videos and while i know it’s nothing to do with you I thought you should know what’s going on in your own videos.
That their knee-jerk response was "do you not own phones" to an audience of PC gamers is the best indication of just how out of touch they are with their audience. Even as a joke it's an utterly tone deaf move, the PR equivilent of tossing TNT into a fire.
It wasn’t out of touch, it was just an insult saying “you have the ability to play it, so shut the fuck up and don’t be mad.” It’s worse than being out of touch.
Blizzard : because of your feedback that we got from Diablo Immortal we are proud to announce Diablo Battle Royale that will release alongside Diablo Immortal Launch
Fan#1: Is this a joke? Blizzard: No, next question. Fan#2: Seriously, is this a joke? Blizzard: No, any other questions? *Lots of hands go up* Blizzard: Keeping in mind I have already explained that this isn't a joke. *All hands go down*
Upi - There's two types of guys that will be doing that - extremely thirsty ones who are tying _anything_ to get a girl to touch their peepee, and ones who are vicious sexual predators trying to justify their crimes by helping the wamens. Neither of those tactics work, of course.
@@Sixstringman Just so you know, greedy fucking CEOs are far more likely to be Republicans, but hey, don't let reality stop you from making an idiotic, whiny political point.
Man, i know gaming journalist are a joke and all. But for them to call people cry babies and entitled shows how much they go against the consumers no matter what.
All media becomes corrupt in short order. If they're getting paid to write, you're not getting the real story. Hell, even if they aren't getting paid, they might be trying to push their own agenda. At least with independant media you can make a judge of character on how reliable each individual person is. You don't get that with news organizations. Just a big, faceless homogenous mess.
I don't trust journalists anymore. The only general gaming newscaster I listen to is our boi Yong. I do follow some UA-camrs but they are mostly fixiated on one franchise and not gaming as a whole like our boi Yong
Why is it when a big game is disliked its always...... “Gamers are rascist” “Gamers are sexist” “Gamers are ignorant” Well if gamers are so bad then why make the disliked game? Oh its because the games in question were not made to be games. They’re made to be services you have to pay to enjoy. If you wanna make a phone game fine, if you wanna add micro transactions fine, if you wanna add loot boxes fine. But don’t blame gamers for disliking something not made for them
@Subi_fan Yeah, the last one was a smashing success! SMH...Christ, show a little more self-awareness on why you're still near where you want to be in a way that doesn't involve conspiracy theories. You might actually get somewhere.
I don't give a shit if they make a mobile game. I'm not interested in buying it and I won't play it personally, but I don't care. What bothers me is the mistreatment of the fans, the disrespect Blizzard has shown. Mark Kern is right on the money with his comments.
@@latroyw4650 They hype up a game that's being released on the phone in a convention filled with heavy PC gamers as its main attraction as the main game to release info about in BlizzCon, their major convention. THAT is what disrespected the fans. Not the game itself, but when, where, and how they did it.
Mindy Auron I understand how easy it is to blurt our something you don’t consider the weight of when getting attacked from all sides, but this went a bit over the top lol
Jack Tilley it doesn’t take 6 years to make a mobile game that is a knockoff of a knock off that copied your own game and to sell it at your biggest event as if people will be stoked for it, all the while hyping it as if it’s gonna be the next real entry and then afterwards, insult your already angry crowd It doesn’t take 6 years to make a cheap knockoff mobile game, but it apparently only takes 6 seconds to destroy it
I was expecting something along the lines of free Diablo junk for 3 like a preview of a new season or a new free dlc chapter to bridge the story between 3 a d4 whenever it comes ouy
They literally said Diablo 4 would not be announced at Blizzcon this year. Did you think they were lying? Yes it was moronic for Blizzard to release this without announcing one of their other new Diablo projects, similar to Bethesda with the Elder Scrolls Blades and Elder Scrolls 6. But to say Blizzard was bringing up hype around Diablo is very dishonest.
It was moronic for a PC game company with only two games on console to try to hype a mobile game to fans who spent thousands on gaming PC's and hundreds on the convention.
It is easy to understand: While hosting a convention centered around your majority PC game lineup, announce to a room full of PC gamers that the next installment of one of the most beloved PC game franchises ever is going to be a mobile game with no plans to make a PC version.
Exactly. Media sites are turning this situation into "gamers are entitled" bullshit again as if Blizzard didn't fuck up themselves by having their biggest announcement be a mobile game to the completely wrong audience.
These gaming journalists are either: 1. Writing something positive about these kinds of companies because they are paid to. 2. They want to be different instead of just hopping onto the hate train so they could get more readers. 3. They like paying to win because they know aren't good with games. 4. They are just trolls. 5. They know nothing about this industry or they are only viewing it from a profit perspective.
Aerulion Sol No they aren't being paid persay, but nobody wants to be critical for fear of being blacklisted and losing access to prerelease copies. They are sucking up and just as out of touch as Blizzard.
Yes but more common to have a phone than a computer. Many rely on it solely for internet. www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/ www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/12/evolution-of-technology/ But are the people that going to play games like that are going to likely ones playing Diablo or even the mobile version? They are trying to port to a new audience and don’t even understand them either. Lol
Imagine if Ferrari came out and said that in the last 6 years, most of their efforts was focused on making a lawn mower... Yeah, that's pretty much what blizzard did.
The Harley Davidson moped. "You guys know how to pedal, right?" The McDonald's soy burger. "You guys have ketchup, don't you?" The Budweiser wine cooler "Holy crap, I'm about to get my ass kicked."
lawn mower would be more interesting then shitty chinese mobile game, and BFA expansion of WoW, both are shit by the way, but id like to see more of this Lawn Mower
@@kyotheman69 It could be a competitor to that Honda Super-Mower. Maybe Lamborghini and Porsche could get back into the tractor industry and we could begin the World Farming Equipment Championshop
I feel like it's not Activision at fault here. Not that they're moral paragons, but that they took their downvotes on cod:iw and left them there unlike blizzard.
@@chukyuniqul TBH that dislike thing is probably automatic on youtubes side. Made to battle bots and multiple accounts. I don't know if that reflects on the likes but the difference would be a *lot* harder to see. This hasn't been the first time and there has been cases where likes have fluctuated also a lot in some videos. It's just harder to notice because: a) people don't usually pay attention to those kinds of things. and b) on the blizzard video if it generated 100k dislikes, the missing of 50k would be noticed in an instant as it's under a spotlight. While generate 1-2k but missing 500 or even 5-50 is not noticeable. Not to mention those likes are probably not by bots and/or multi accounts. Not protecting blizz. Just pointing it out. Still hate this fact and this is utter horseshit.
im only a casual gamer, but even i know you dont walk up to a bunch of pc gamers and tell them to "suck it up and buy this mobile game" and game journalists blaming gamers for reacting this way are just letting blizzard get away with it, since now most of people's ire is going to be directed at them instead of the company
Most game journalists will blame the gamers, they have to suck AAA dick on command or end up on the black list. With that being said, fuck those AAA ball sucking cum farts. Our anger is justified, Activision-blizzard jerked us along then revealed this reskinned money-grab.
Game journalists (which are pretty much composed of liberal SJWs and their Beta Male white knights) have an axe to grind against gamers after Gamergate and the criticism they receive criticizing their lack of gaming skills and understanding. They will always side on the team that works against the interest of the gamers no matter how malicious and corporately evil they are. Which is kinda ironic since these are coming from the same group who are whining about rich people becoming richer because of corporate greed.
When 98% of their customers play on PC and have been waiting for a good diablo since 2, it's dumb to think there wouldn't be backlash. No one would care if there was a phone game as long as diablo 4 got a teaser. They failed their customers and journalists are acting like gamers are in the wrong.
EA's stock has dropped almost 30% over the last year. They are reaping what they sow. Blizzard Activision stock plummeted after the Diablo Immortal fail. Companies will take notice of gamers or they will fail.
Well, we hope that is the case anyway. But mobile is a very profitable market made up almost entirely of people who are not really gamers. Their standards for quality are much lower and their willingness to spend money on MTXs is much higher. When Activison Blizzard doubled down and said all their best devs are now working on mobiles, what that really means is that we are no longer profitable enough for them. So we're no longer the target audience. We get the mediocre devs and the scraps they are given to work with while the lion's share of their time and effort goes to catering to the mobile masses. Namely the Chinese market. Unless China cracks down on MTXs in games in a big way, it's unlikely that our collective outrage will dissuade them at all.
The only thing really making ea alot of money is the sports games but some of my normie friends are like starting to see it. They are like this game is trash why hasn't it gotten better. Some are waiting a year in between now. And complaining about the whole cards shit my friend saw how much he spent and was like na I aint playing anymore.
@@Nick-rl8pn +1 Nick. Yup, that's the fear. If mobile is so much more profitable, then there is a real possibility that game devs will stop making PC games altogether! I don't see the Chinese government cracking down on MTX, but maybe the Chinese individuals themselves will collectively wake up and stop wasting money on MTX. I still can't believe they fall for this crap.
@@fazdoll There will always be a market for none mobile games, if game devs starts moving to mobile that just opens a vacuum for indie games to go AAA and makes everything better.
What these gaming publishers and gaming journalists don't understand is this. These investors they're in bed with will not be sticking with them when things get worse.
Kai Yahya. 6% is huge. The message has been sent. That’s EA post Battlefront 2 levels of damage. You shouldn’t want blizzard to go bankrupt. We still want Diablo 4 and Diablo 2 remastered and they cant do that without money.
@@langa77777 At this point you still believe blizzard is capable of making quality game? A hd port or remaster is what they can do the best Diablo 4? Don't think about it
@@johnathonhaney8291 Both extreme SJWs and extreme anti-SJWs are a failure imo. However, if I had to side with one or the other, I would go with SJWs - less chance of ending up in some kind of a fascist environment.
Diablo lost it's way. It was the darkness, the upside down crosses, the fear, the demons crackling, the pentagrams. When you first came into the butcher's room and you heard "Mmmm, Fresh meat". The eerie guitar music. It all got changed to pg-13 cartoons. I am sad a true Diablo is not being made.
I felt the same. When I play the first diablo, I didn't understand the details of the story, but I feel the ambient, the town was gone and deaths by a fearful deamons. Diablo 2 was a little different because the deamons where not underground and from another world. Diablo 3 was completely different, the deamon don't make fear and are only mutants creatures, and the humans are very stupid.
Huge Diablo fan until they revealed the graphic changes to WoWblo, stopped playing it moved on to Path of Exile which i feels stays truer to D2 then D3
I became a Patron today because the gaming industry sorely needs more analysis and critique and it's voices like yours that will help communities hold large companies to account. We deserve better than what the likes of Blizzard, Bethesda and EA are giving us. Things used to be better, when these companies were young and hungry. They grew fat, greedy and ignorant. The people behind these companies have become business men and women, they are no longer gamers.
Exactly, it's no longer about the gameplay and story but how much money they can milk gamers. If Diabo immortal WAS for gamers, EVEN if it was mobile, it would have been a SINGLE PLAYER with NO MICROTRANSACTION OFFLINE game. But of course, it is just another microstransaction riddled mobile CASH GRAB.
@@Varian-Killbot Doesn't change the fact that Diable Immoral is mobile cash grab, make it a paid game with NO microtransactions, EVEN if it is multiplayer I'd be down for it.
Drivertilldeath exactly. They’re using feminists as a way to deflect our anger at sjws and it’s working beautifully. I see stupid fucks mad at feminists more than blizzard 😂 tf man
It'll go wrong the second legislation lands that prevents gatcha/Skinner box gambling on mobile games. Then all the developers that dumped all their talented Dev teams for trash mobile devs will have nothing to make, and no talent left to transition back to traditional game development... Also many of the current mega companies value is based solely on their micro transaction based profit models, prepare for a major crash if that revenue stream disappears.
But we dont know if this game will have a lot of micro transactions. It could be like those dungeon hunter mobile games that cost like $9.99 and are full games. I would be happy if is like that
It was a poor choice of words but the guy's job was to convince a huge crowd that a shit sandwich was cake. It was always gonna end badly. He probably drew the shortest straw.
God I hated that... *"Don't you guys have phones?"* Yes. Have you actually played on one Blizzard? Obviously not. And trying to bring gender and race into this garbage. My God, people's brains must be inverted and mush.
Goes to show that corporation are indeed out of touch with gamers, and honestly, entire communities. Hell, it doesn't even feel human anymore. It's weird.
Blizzard: We have heard your calls and we have listened. Our community is the heart of our company. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for your guys. And as a way to thank all of you, we are proud to announce DIABLO PACHINKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Hating P2W mobile games == toxic masculinity" ? Are you effing kidding me ? I'm pretty sure every *female* Diablo fan hates the idea as well : do _they_ also express toxic masculinity ? I blame Google : those "journalists" are just playing the SEO game.
Gamer chick chiming in. Yeah. Nobody wants this shit. It's been vastly accepted that the franchise has been on PC and Mac as a priority. Was fine they ported Diablo to psx, was a good port even. The diablo 3 ports to console I can't speak from experience but it seems like it translated weirdly. Anyway. It boggles my mind they think that people want a mobile game (and yes you are definitely right it would be p2w since they've gotten away with it for a while now with Overwatch), or at least mock their player base "what, no phone?" with that stupid smirk. Like... um... yes phones are more advanced now but not everyone is going to have the latest and greatest frigging iPhone. There's plenty of people who use so-so android phones, and that's why it was slightly acceptable to port their games to console: mostly the simplicity of similarity in specs. It's a shame that this company would have initially come from nearly humble beginnings to become this... We all knew dumb choices like this would eventually come up. They changed so much right around Diablo II that even some employees who were there for the first Diablo got uneasy and left. Then they let the battle.net servers rot as people threw money at them to play WoW, their perfect little cash cow. They've just gotten sloppier and sloppier, and just as much more greedy. The Activision merger just made them even worse. It's only a matter of time before their finances take a hit for their choices. I enjoy HotS, but that is a prime example of sheer laziness and holding out their hands for cash. That is the kind of game that will eventually die. It has no story. It is a repetitive game. Meanwhile games they made in the past have a huge following still, because of the flavor of them. Not just pew pew buy a box rinse and repeat. It's like they forgot everything and got shitty like EA. Well, we all know what happens to companies acquired by EA (Rip OG Origin). Guess that's Blizzard's fate after being acquired by Activision... And yes. As for the maddening "sexist" bullshit, it's tiring. I tire of the way journalism pits groups of people against each other to generate infamy and clicks. Them and the people who find every reason to get pissed off are part of the problem.
@@BlueGreyWolf I'm just spreading the news that I felt they were going to announce Diablo for but it was pulled from BlizzCon I guess and it was not ready yet
And also Announced that Blades will do a Skyrim and be in all consoles for the future after its release, which they even mentioned the CONSOLES where it will come out.
I’m sure the devs and producers are thinking “We told you so”. They just have to be careful so they don’t lose their jobs. I don’t blame them! I blame the suits for putting them on stage to announce this bullshit and get eaten alive. This whole situation in indicative of where the industry is going. I wish people would stop playing these shitty mobile games, they don’t realize they are ruining is for everyone and giving in to predatory business practice.
Because I went back to school I am seeing the way the new generation plays games. What we used to call the attention span of someone with ADD has now become the new norm. They play a game one day, and the next day they've already started playing the next one. In the span of just a few months I've seen my classmates go through more than 10 games. I can't even see what's fun about that.. They're also talking most about games like the new assassins creed, COD, Fortnite, Fifa and all those other low effort cash grab type games. I hate to say it, but I don't really see the industry changing for the better any time soon.
Agreed. There's NO WAY no one in the company, particularly the dev side, didn't call this but they kept their mouth shut because of the pressure not to speak out against those in positions of power who refuse to respect the audience (let alone their subordinates and coworkers), seeing them as some cash cow that should just buy what they are given like the good cattle they are.
Unfortunately, a lot of the people playing these games are either: 1) Working adults with a lot of money, but no time to spend on pc gaming (hence choose gaming on the go)... or 2) A new generation of kids with easy access to tablets and smartphones and the permission of their rich parents to buy stuff online. The PC and console market is slowly dying out due to the sheer accessibility of these phones and tablets.
Gob smacked at those "gaming journalist's" reactions. They just come across as being so out of touch with the people they are meant to represent and have other agendas behind their comments.
Also, they didn't pay for their fucking tickets to enter Blizzcon while the fans literally spent hundreds if not thousands just to travel there and see the event.
Blizzard: hey let's produce a mobile version of Diablo People: alrightyeahm8thatsprettygud Blizzard: but were gonna hint at it all this time like a sequel and reveal it at a pc focused event where only the hardcore fans will be People: for Fucks sake. DoN't y'AlL hAve PhOneS??
anyone who thought that it was hinting to a sequel is silly, diablo 3 is pretty recent and warcraft 3 would be the next game in line to get a sequel (or diablo 2 getting a remaster)
exactly! Diablo 3 release has already been an Acitvision game, i´m pretty sure they told Blizzard to fix it and even though it took a while, they did. Still not my favorite Diablo, but compared to the release version? i mean, WOW!
It’s nuts to me. Seeing these companies that were filled with those so passionate about creating games as an extension of passion and care to present beautiful and fun products now purely trying to get as much money as humanly possible as fast as possible. What these companies will come to learn is that the dedicated gaming community isn’t full of idiots. Casual players may come in the millions and be willing to spend a few dollars, but creating games purely for the casual audience will turn away the people that are devoted to supporting them. We are the ones that created their ivory towers in the first place. Passion and love to give the best experience are the things that bring in the real money and audience.
That "they just hate women" theory is the most hilariously insidious thing ever. It couldn't possibly be the inferior graphics, controls, monetization, dumbed-down gameplay, pacing that's designed for short play sessions, etc etc. It must be they want to avoid women. Women who are also entirely free to play PC games if they want.
Flip that argument, journalists thinks women want and deserve inferior graphics, controls, monetization, dumbed-down gameplay, pacing that's designed for short play sessions, etc etc. Man those journalists sure are misogynistic asses.
I actually think there's a kernel of truth to the misogyny claim, though I agree it's predominantly the fact that core gamers are turned off by the inferior mobile experience. Core gaming (particularly PC gaming) has traditionally been male-dominated, and since men are more likely to be core gamers they're more likely to be turned off mobile games and we end up with a culture where mobile gaming is dominated with casual gamers, many of which are women. This feeds into the cultural notion that casual/mobile games are for girls and core games are for boys, which in turn feeds back into the existing divide. It's a positive feedback loop. So while of course it's ridiculous to argue they're ONLY shitting on it being a mobile game because they associate mobile gaming with women, I think it would be accurate to say that, for many, men see mobile gaming as somewhat emasculating.
The modern day games industry where the people that want your money insult you for enjoying their products, and the media publishes articles explaining how their readers are evil.
As much as I hate to say it, this game will likely turn out fine. Mobile games are made to appeal to everyone, anyone with a phone will be able to play Diablo Immortal and they won't care if it's on PC or not because they likely weren't fans of Diablo in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I think Blizzard was stupid to unveil a MOBILE game at Blizzcon, but it will still make them money none-the-less.
I can't understand ActiBlizz 😂 How the fuck could they not know that gamers tolerate a lot of things, but getting insulted ain't one of them. Pattie boi's comments on BF5? Jesus, don't ActiBlizz follow news? Goddamn.
The customer is ALWAYS right. That's not just a PR term, its a revenue term. If people are unhappy, they will leave and therefor wont spend money. It's in Blizzards best interests to admit fault and go on damage control. Blizzard has lost credibility with their base (myself included). I foresee this having a clear cut on Blizzcon tickets (virtual and real) next year.
Hmm costumers made some mistakes for example in wow We never should have wanted dungeon finder or "Please make this game less grindy and a bit more rng to be a bit more random rather than a "this item drops or not" kind of thing" These decisions were started by the costumers.. both destroy wow ever so slowly Or not slowly because wow sub count is at an all-time low now
If people are unhappy they will leave.... No, only the original PC gamer people will leave. Bilzzard is more than willing to let go of them. Why should Blizzard bother with these pesky original customers and their petty demands, when have a billion Chinese customers willing to MTX themselves into the poor-house? I'm sorry to be harsh, but that's what they talk about in these corporate boardrooms.
Blizzard can't be this oblivious... I mean everyone has literally told them exactly what they want. It's almost as if they are doing this shit on purpose..
It's scary, they're starting to smell like EA. The amount of money they're making off Overwatch is ridiculous. The greed plague is slowly taking over Blizzard............ which is extremely unfortunate. I'm not mad. Just disappointed. Very, very disappointed...
They're still working on diablo 4...they've been working on it for a while and that's what most people want...hell most of the original and long term blizzard devs are the ones in charge this has nothing to do with Activision this is just trying to make mobile gaming more appealing and open to people trying to bring it into the market. The market is a mess though especially on mobile and everyone is worried immortal Is just a clone of another game with the diablo tag..and an mmo well actually a lot of people were interested in an mmo diablo but I'm pretty sure they didn't mean on a phone..there are very few good phone games...that are worth spending some times on and be enjoyable while most are time wasters and that's it. That or horrible repeats or broken or so pay to win or something that it's just pointless...that's why people are pissed and I can agree. Diablo 2 remake I think diehard fans would be happy and I wouldn't mind..but most people dont want a remake of diablo 2 from what I've seen...I can see why though plus it's far far too over hyped for what it was.. I'm going back playing though and honestly it puts me to sleep fatsee than d3 does .-. I just find the game lacking in many areas as for its darker aesthetic well..eh sort of the older style of graphics helps what really makes it better in its darker aesthetic is its lighting. That shit is almost perfect there. Made another character today hit act 2 again and...apparently my pump died on my aio..so that's getting replaced the company is just replacing it quite easy thing has a 5 year warranty which is nice. I dont think they're oblivious I think they're scared that Activision will either destroy them or take control..they have the means to do so it's not easy when Activision can do a number of things to really harm them..honestly I'd preferred ten cent being in a partnership with them. Theres one older diablo dev though that just has massive paranoia...the last.guy I forgot his name.is stepping down because of his mental health...hes old enough as is and I'd imagine his brain is starting to fail slowly anyways. Diablo 2 was good but the story was just as bad as d3s when you look at it...most of the darker aesthetics starts in act 1 and 3 and I believe its act 4. But even in act 1 it's really not that dark at all...the older look sort of makes it more creepy. By act 2..well it basically loses that factor and act 3 I find brings it back quite well which I enjoy i feel stupid for not remembering act 4 well enough..and I forgot if theres an act 5 or not with LoD ..oh god imma get a lot of hate for that. D3 improves in most areas...the lighting was a fail in 3 and the story and cutscences could have had a darker vibe reaper of souls did it some justice with how death tore the souls from the new horadrim. The lighting once again is just too much it does the game no justice..proper lighting would help greatly if you ask me. The skills system needs some more refining and sets needs to be reworked or removed and replaced. Power creep needs to slow down and not be so fast. Rune words and charms some people like them I think rune words could be good still instead of just gems and leg gems. Charms are really just a whatever item they can be replaced with something better and more interesting. The way potions work that needs some refining and for the love of god the teleporting needs to be changed to something that makes sense not just pressing T to open a portal. And identifying...you shouldn't ge able to list identify everything maybe simple magic items. Maybe the wizards or other classes could have passive skill or one that you can choose to add that allows d3 system of portaling and identifying. That's some of what I have
Pretty much all the major ''Games Journalists'' jumped at the opportunity to defend Activision-Blizzard with nonsense arguments. Coincidentally they're also showing ads for the game. _HMMMM_
Fuck Kotaku and fuck game journalists. Yong Yea makes them look like ignorant children. They need to get a real job for real since all they do is talk shit about gamers all the time.
I spent more money on Hearthstone then I have on all Blizzard products in the past. I'm sorry. I contributed, in a small way, to this fiasco. RIP Diablo. We had a lot of fun.
@@bonzathebear7289 I spent over $400 and only played it on PC, never played it on mobile. I'm a loser. I helped make the world shit. I got less than 100 hours of gameplay out of HearthStone. I played WoW way more than 1,000 hours. I remember excitedly yelling on the mic with internet friends in WoW. I don't remember ever being that excited in Hearthstone.
I only gave money to hearthstone once i thought i got enough value that they deserved it, (took like 2 - 3 years) and even then it was still cheaper than most TCG's are. I don't feel bad though i am tempted to drop both overwatch and hearthstone after this.
You are right. There is still hope by the way like Bethesda with Wolfenstein and doom or Devolver with their awesome Indies like hotline Miami or mother Russia bleeds. Let's support those companies in hope that it will change the industry.
Indeed. Imagine if 85% of political journalists didn't know anything about politics, and instead just said things that fit their own narrative rather than doing genuine journalism. Oh. :(
Drunken Hobo I think that’s exactly whats happening here in the U.S. right now. The things people do just to further their own agenda, the hell with integrity. Amiright!?
Years ago, I was uncomfortable with Activision merging with Blizzard, and the merging of developers in general, but I'm sad to say that my hunch was spot on.
Can we please have back the time were being a gamer was a social stigma that made you appear as pathetic and not cool? Because ever since being a "gamer" became popular the whole thing went down the drain save for few exceptions.
Ah, Christ...another victim of the nostalgia trap. Hate to break it to you but that ain't how time works. Besides, wouldn't you rather be on the lookout for folks who will make this better once the profits start leveling off and possibly crashing across the board?
That’s the price of popularity. Greedy fucks will find it and cash in for as much dough as possible and leave.
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Johnathon Haney it’s not nostalgic. Looking at this from a solely economical and marketing perspective, it makes perfect sense. What he said, I mean. With more mainstream success, more businessmen caring about money and not games jumped on board. And they sought to gain more customers, because that’s what matters at the end of the day: income. So they sought to appeal to the lowest common denominator. This would ofc upset those that had once filled the niche, as they were no longer the target audience. It’s not nostalgia, my guy. It’s simple economics.
Yup. It has a QWERTY keyboard that some of the buttons don't work, it's only 3G, AT&T stopped supporting internet functionality on it, and can't play games that aren't Java-based (provided you downloaded them before the internet support was turned off). An iPhone X is 6 weeks' pay, provided I don't drive to work, pay my cell phone bill, pay my car insurance, eat, or pay my internet bill. LOL
These games are not targeted towards the average gamer is more targeted towards rich whales who already spend alot on mobile games and will contiunue to spend more
Unfortunately, to "speak with your wallet" in this case means to not speak (ie not pay for microtransactions in a f2p game). Much much more people "speak" with their wallets by buying in-app-purchases, so much so to the point that it's pointless for game companies to listen to any other kind of "speech". Welcome to the world today.
Meanwhile Grinding Gear Games, producer of Path of Exile, just revealed they are releasing PoE on PS4... Guess they expect their fans not to have phones
I'm not saying Bethesda is the messiah of game developers (especially because of that paid mods fiasco), but they made a mobile game that everyone was excited for. Todd Howard: "Fallout 4 is coming out later this year, we have a Fallout Anthology being released a couple weeks prior, and as soon as this showcase is over we have a free to play Vault building mobile game launching that you can play while waiting for Fallout 4." Congratulations Activision-Blizzard you are worse than EA. You managed to top the decimation of Star Wars Battlefront 2.
Soooo..we had Disney peoples bashing fans for being bigots and chauvinists, worked well for them. Then we had Battlefield 5 devs bashing fans for same shit, worked well for them too. Now Blizzard jumped on the high horse and does the same. Will they ever learn?
There's a reason why inde games are getting more and more popular. There are not safe from this, (no man's sky, yandere simulator, ect) but you are more likely to find someone who isn't greedy.
I know I've been looking around at other options. Grim Dawn, Torchlight 2, PoE, Wolcen, and Lost Ark are all on my radar before anything Blizzard. There was a time where I'd blind buy anything Blizzard. Man, those times are long gone now.
Mark Kern literally said everything I say. I miss the relationship that the community used to have with Blizzard. They used to be a team that I looked up to. They are the reason I got into learning development like coding. I used to want to be like them. Now, I want to be better than them. Should not be hard if they keep going down the EA route.
It's depressing to see that the game industry is just snowballing down a hill that will eventually lead to nothing but boring repeats over and over again like EA sports games or Call of Duty... Hopefully companies like CD Projekt RED still hold out. All of the soul is gone. Devs have become nothing but shills for their shareholders. Nobody can even deny it, look how easily all of the major companies just call all of their fans braindead when they don't like something that they've created rather than innovating and improving it.
After near 20 years, I'm slowly uprooting myself from the world of gaming. And backing out. Good games come out less and less often. And I'm down to buying 1-2 games per year now. I think it's time to call it quits now...for good...
I just don't get it why dose EA and Activations not see their competition and people buying Halo, GTA, Red Dead Redemption, The Witcher 3, God of war and other great single player games? All these developers were dropping sweats to be delivered but yet the jump to mobile games thinking we want it, I don't mind if it was optional knowing another Diablo game is developed for PC but saying no crruent plans is a bit fucked up . I hope they see how Red dead Redemption broke the history record for weekend sales :/ and that's without mobile game
AmerIdrisFilm Because at the end of the long day, they don’t care. The entire industry is falling more towards just caring about profit. Who cares about quality that takes time and lots of money when you can just churn out low to medium quality products. And if there’s nostalgia in said products then it’s a fatter cash cow to milk. Konami, EA, Activision, and now Blizzard are just some of the biggest examples of this. They don’t care about good games. They don’t care about you. They care about your wallet. And that’s just... dirty.
Good games are dying. Games aren't a passion project anymore, just solely money driven. Compared to 10+ years ago, way more marketing/communication based jobs have popped up, to help with the exploitation of the customers wallet. Most of the money spent on making video games is invested in marketing, instead of game development. Games before 2008 were actual games. Remember trying out a demo to see if a game is any good, before you bought it? That's replaced with "early access." Most game devs are losing touch with their fans. Small indie games are whats left... Battle Royale games are the current cancer that companies like to fully explore and milk it dry.
Sun rise Would you rather have a battle pass or random chance loot boxes, or both? Pick your poison. It’s only a popular game mode, no different from an rpg, puzzle, fighting craze -well except the money.
As much as I hate to mention him, Todd Howard did this much better back with the FO4 and Fallout Shelter reveals at E3 2015. Bethesda showed everyone the hot new FO4 trailer and even provided a release date for it. And afterwards Todd gave the audience Fallout Shelter to tide them over, stating: "Which will be available, for free... tonight." They waited until the heavy-hitter was ready for the release trailer stages, and for their dumb mobile game to be 100% complete for the show. The real heavy-hitting releases by these companies have and will always be flagship titles on PC/consoles, not mobile, no matter how much the industry tries to plug for it.
KingKamor2 it’s why I like Bethesda as a company. Everyone can shit on them, but Bethesda does try to listen to fans and what we want. You want mods, they try to do mods (yes I think it’s dumb of them to make paid mods, but they still let fans make mods). They do need help with story writing but they are a pretty solid company. I’ll wait a year or so to get 76, that way everything settles down. It’s what I did with destiny 2.
Can someone tell me what’s so bad about Ubisoft besides the downgrades? Not trying to be rude, just curious. Because all Ubisoft games I’ve played I’ve had some fun with.
I really hope lootboxes and such schemes become illegal worldwide soon, soon enough it's going to be down to solely the indie developers to keep the franchise alive at all - and by 'alive' I mean providing any meaningful entertainment. I mean it's gotten to the point where these...things with lootboxes and P2W aspects, specifically, can hardly even be called games, considering most of such 'games' don't provide any real sense of entertainment anymore - let alone a real 'sense of pride and accomplishment'. They're almost just as bad as facebook 'games' that are more akin to interactive movies than games at all - with novice grade coding as the cherry on top.
I mean people gamble with the worlds shittiest odds in Casinos all the time for "fun." The reality is it's just to play off of addicts. Personally if everywhere did the Chinese law of physically showing the odds I wouldn't give 2 shits less as long as it was Overwatch level of lootboxes.
The most dangerous aspect of lootboxes is that it's basically legal gambling for minors. And nowhere in politics I see anyone talking about such problems.
indie or small studio's are only ones getting my money now, THQ nortic and any small dev deserve the money, because the triple A industry isn't giving what we want. good news that their are diablo like games in the works, there is Path of Exile, but others are coming soon, ill give those dev's the money and tell Activision go fuck themselves i will not download their shitty game on my phone.
@@mjl1966y because a billion chinese people who gobble this shit down determines the market and I still like to play actual decent games. I'm all for free markets in almost every sphere, but really in the next few years virtually every AAA company is going to be catering to this market regardless of how the western world votes with their wallet, and all we'll be left with in the PC gaming community is going to be some shitty roguelikes and crowdfunded indie games that manage maybe 1 decent title every year or so.
Mark Kern absolutely nailed. People (customers) aren't "entitled" for being upset about a product that they were hyped about only to discover that it's something no one asked for. Of course anyone can choose not to buy a product that isn't for them, but it's not wrong to speak out against it. This isn't a case of "toxic masculinity" either nor "misogyny" either. Fans (men and women) are upset because Blizzard is out of touch with fans want not to mention responding with a much more disrespectful response of "don't you guys have phones". So let's not try to delegitimize every discussion and complaint using the terms "entitled" or "toxic".
What game conpanies don't seem to get is that *they can do both.* You can release a full game that is actually good and still release *extra* DLC content. Look at the newer South Park game or Spiderman. Rather than releasing half of a game at full price and making us pay extra for the rest. Where did gaming go ?
I study PR and marketing....it IS a common sense to do a market research before making any marketing/PR decisions (because, you know, it's kinda good to know what your consumer wants) . I find it hard to believe they bothered. :D
@@ilikematches2 Did he not imply that they didn't do their market research? Because if they did bother to do so(which they probably just poorly did regardless), this audience backlash would not have happened.
So there's an oddly suspicious IGN article that sounds like two of your videos Frankensteined. I'd look into it given your track record for excellence and there's not being so hot. Just a tip. Love the videos! You're one of the best. www.ign.com//articles/2018/11/06/diablo-immortals-reveal-was-an-unnecessary-mess
Man, kinda sad so many agree with this sentiment, I was in the same "all mobile games are trash" boat as well, 'till I gave some actually good ones I try and they really changed my views on mobile games. Obviously, not all of them are good and not shameless add-filled cashgrabs, but, like Steam, you can find some genuinely great games under the manure ridden store page. Really wish people wouldn't overgeneralize all mobile games to be shameless cash cows when there are good quality games.
@@poofinator4952 There _are_ good mobages out there and I play/have played a couple myself, but I have yet to find one that doesn't have microtransactions or use the gacha model, that isn't a console port. Furthermore they are an entirely different kind of game - regular content updates, sometimes decent gameplay but often too dependent on lucky gacha draws to clear the hardest content. Unless you're talking about mobile-exclusive series such as Chaos Rings, which seem to be a rare breed these days. In any case they often don't have the same kind of narrative, world-building and sense of immersion that a real heavy hitting title will, be it an RPG or more action-orientated. I've learned my lesson about spending money in these types of games because frankly there are much better titles available for less. The worry is that they often cost less than a 'proper' game to develop and maintain, and out of every 100 or even 1000 people that play it, all you need is 1 whale that spends a stupid amount of money and it's instantly profitable. I enjoy them for what they are, though more than half of the reason I've played them is because I'm already interested in the franchises they represent to begin with (I have no interest in mobile-exclusive new IP). But I don't want the core gaming market to suffer due to their existence - either trying to entice people into playing the latest cashgrab or shamelessly exploiting their old IP for a quick buck. Sadly the risk of that happening is all too real without some form of regulation, especially in Japan where that practice is more widely accepted.
@@Harkz0r I also play a mobage(just started a month ago) and while i enjoy it for what it is,I'm not blind to the fact that it constantly tries to get you spend money:By putting certain characters up on banner,by being stingy with the premium currency,and of course the fact that rolling the gatcha is the only way to get characters in the first place. I don't do it because I don't want to support those kinds of tactics. Another youtuber who plays the same mobage put out a decent video comparing the typical tactics casinos use to what gatcha games do and it's pretty much 1 for 1. I'm curious as to what kind of regulations you think mobages should have. I think for starters there should be an age restriction on these kinds of games like casinos have. While an adult is experienced enough and should make decisions for themselves on money,a child can't really do that and they can wind up spending money on the game without their parents consent. This even happens in console games with MT(like FIFA) The problem is that from what I've seen most parents are largely ignorant of not only mobile games,but games in general and the industry. I think a lot could be done if more people informed parents about their kids hobbies. Of course,this doesn't count for japanese gatcha games.
@@avatarwarmech Seriously, why are you linking this article on every unrelated comment? This is not how you shill for games journalist. You are doing it wrong Bob.
Leave it to "gaming journalists" to use social justice narratives to defend big corporations and their anti-consumer practices. Unbelievable. My cynical side thinks this is an established tactic by some people at this point.
@@kytele People making ridiculous broad assertions DO encourage impressionable young people to become a-holes. I've been called an sjw by the best trolls in the business, and even I'm finding these journalists tweets bizarre and inhuman.
@@kytele In case you can't read between the lines, I'm suggesting their arguments are insincere. Hence they are probably not "actual" SJWs in the first place, but have merely co-opted their speech patterns to affect opinions.
Really good point, how are they now defending what they were against not so long ago. "We need have more choice we want to play as a hyper gender dildo" and now because fans dare to say "mobile games really?" They are accused of being entitled.
Mark Kern nailed it. With all this going on, a lot of people forget that the Diablo IP is what made Blizzard as a gaming company and the IP that made a name for themselves. Followed by Warcraft and Starcraft but still would of never been possible without Diablo 1. With Diablo 2 being an amazing game to grow up with and where I did lan parties with my friends, to even the bumpy start of Diablo 3 with the auctionhouse I still had lots of respect for the company. Announcing this mobile game abomination is nothing but a slap in the face the the true hardcore fans that were craving for a new Diablo PC announcement. D2 Remastered of even a D3 DLC would've still been better than this BS cashgrab mobile abomination. Enough ranting for the day, these are just my thoughts and I do hope that they do learn from their PR disaster and will handle this matter the right way as opposed to making it worse like EA did with both Battlefront2 and how they butchered Command & Conquer similarly as they did with Diablo Immortals.
You know it's bad if Diablo 2's producer, Mark Kern, expressed his disappointment with Blizzard not understanding on Twitter saying, "Blizzard has lost touch with gamers and is failing to anticipate kind [of] obvious problems before they happen." Blizzard definitely screwed up big time. Calling their consumer-base "...toxic..." is just dumb on a professional level and also from a business perspective. I'm pretty sure that this instance will have pissed off enough Blizzard fans to just not buy anything Blizzard or Activision made. PC gamers and long time fans wouldn't be so upset if they had a Diablo 1 & 2 Remaster coming. But nothing of that was announced so of course fans will be focusing on how upset people are with the whole fiasco with Diablo Immortal. Idiots.
To be fair, Blizzard hasn't issued any such a statement in regards to their fan base being "toxic." You have gaming journalism to thank for that smear.
The media defenders... thats what pisses me off THE MOST out of this sharade... yeah it really sucks that Diablo immortal is mobile ... yeah its alot of salt on the wound that its a chinese rip off... BUT MAN... Them journalist act like absolute scum... like they are even more out of touch than Blizzard is with their Diablo franchise. It just makes me wana spill out even more hate onto that... its so absurd
Imagine if other people acted like this. TV reporter: "This family of 4 died to a truck because it's driver had a heart attack. Stupid idiots, they should have stayed at home instead of driving to see grandparents. And truck would not be on the road if you didn't order a sofa, you woman-hating neonazi."
And that's ladies and gentlemen is why gaming-journalism is slowly dying a painful death. You can't trust people and their opinions anymore. The honest guys, the ones that earn next to nothing but love what they are doing, cuz it's what they are, are getting burried under pretenders. I worked in the gaming-journalism-scene for a few years (although technical, not writing) and the trend is clearly visible. Away from honest journalism to money, money, money.
Blizzard hasn't been the good old Blizzard we all knew and loved. That's been clear for years now... Just look at World of Warcraft. R.I.P. Blizzard. Taken from us so brutally by Activision :(
I remember playing Diablo 1 co-op with my friend back in the old, old days - it was all I wanted to play. I remember immediately buying D2 and its expansion as one of the first purchases of my gaming life when I finally DID get my own PC. I remember buying Diablo 3 - and while it wasn't a patch on my old experiences with previous games (disappointed, but not the worst thing ever), I eventually jumped off the Diablo train due to far better alternatives. And then this debacle happens. Let's put it like this. Let's say you open a store on the sidewalk making lemonade and build a lemonade loving community of customers who look forward to your refreshments every day. You eventually make enough cash to upgrade to an actual store and a better lemonade product, embrace your community even more along the way - they feel like a part of you, and you them. Along the way, you hint that you have a big surprise in store for all those dedicated lemonade lovers you've had at your back for years and invite them to your even bigger store... and "VOILA, we're selling gravy!" Wait, why are you mad? Don't you have viable food in your house to put gravy on? Diablo is inherently a PC game and has been for two decades. How a company could not foresee that leaving that dedicated fanbase in the dark for the sake of a shitty mobile port of Not-Diablo-3 and NOTHING else boggles my mind. I guess I'm just another 'entitled' gamer. Safe to say I won't be giving anything towards D:Immortal, but the sad fact is they won't need my money - they'll get plenty anyway, and a pox on the 'old entitled fans' for daring to expect something after following the franchise for so long on the platform they were always on.
Some harsh words there, but he absolutely nailed it in the head.
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#fuckblizzard
*"You guys don't have phones?"*
Yes, look at this
*Dislikes all videos about Diablo immoral*
IMMORAL???
And?
@@Maskkyubii What about it? hmm
So you dislike this one too
"immoral" is perfect because mobile games are immoral freemium schemes.
Blizzard expects us to walk away with a strong sense of pride and accomplishment
lmao
I think they got it backwards, real hard.
_Oof._
But do you have a phone tho?
I think they want their fans to think it’s an off -season April fools joke.
That their knee-jerk response was "do you not own phones" to an audience of PC gamers is the best indication of just how out of touch they are with their audience. Even as a joke it's an utterly tone deaf move, the PR equivilent of tossing TNT into a fire.
On a side note that is one of the most effective ways to put out a fire.
It wasn’t out of touch, it was just an insult saying “you have the ability to play it, so shut the fuck up and don’t be mad.” It’s worse than being out of touch.
"Well, I do have this PC in my room. It plays Diablo 3. Remember that game, Blizzard?"
“Do you guys not have phones?”
Yes, we have phones. We also have microwaves but we don’t cook filet mignon in them.
perfect
Haha that's such a great analogy
Some may lol as some may play games on cellphones
Exactly! !! They then charge you full mignon price for this microwave dinner....
@@UnknownUnknown-zw8mh there a few places that got busted doing this lol
Blizzard : because of your feedback that we got from Diablo Immortal we are proud to announce Diablo Battle Royale that will release alongside Diablo Immortal Launch
On iOS and android
....Alice get my pitchfork.
If they really did that, then we can all forget this game franchise forever
At this point I wouldn't be shocked.
Lmfaoo
Fan#1: Is this a joke?
Blizzard: No, next question.
Fan#2: Seriously, is this a joke?
Blizzard: No, any other questions?
*Lots of hands go up*
Blizzard: Keeping in mind I have already explained that this isn't a joke.
*All hands go down*
*raises middle finger*
*Raises hand* "
Is this an out of season april fools joke?"
Enters Red shirt guy
The simpsons gif meme of this was fantastic
Wanting a PC game to be a PC game is now anti-woman?
Ok. Smh
Apparently, I hate my own kind
@Upi Path of Exile is announced on Playstation 😁 I'm done here!
Because you can't tell a woman to buy a PC. That shit is sexist!
Because aparently blizzard has a mostly female audience sorry but just because ow exists doesnt mean shit
Upi - There's two types of guys that will be doing that - extremely thirsty ones who are tying _anything_ to get a girl to touch their peepee, and ones who are vicious sexual predators trying to justify their crimes by helping the wamens.
Neither of those tactics work, of course.
Yes, we do have phones, and Imma use it to dislike your trailers.
Theyll just delete your down votes
@@sergeysmelnik That's fine. On social media, we are all hydras. You destroy 1 head, 2 pop back out.
Give this man a cookie :D
@@harrislam amen to that fact
You preach it father \0/
Blizzard: Give me money.
Consumers: Give me product worthy of money.
Blizzard: You're a toxic male chauvinist.
Democrats all.
*deletes comment*
@@Sixstringman Just so you know, greedy fucking CEOs are far more likely to be Republicans, but hey, don't let reality stop you from making an idiotic, whiny political point.
@@irllcd13 yea but gaming journalism is full of left-wing writers who say their "hail anita"'s every morning. I think that's what he's talking about.
@@chukyuniqul Call it far-left like it is.
I felt bad for them until the Don't you all have phones thing.
as idiotic as that response was, it's kinda their obligation to defend their product, even if the defense of it is extremely insulting
@@jslaughter95 lol not when those people put the food you eat on the table
yeah.. he really shouldn't said that
Don't feel bad, this product is made to milk players with shady tactics, don't feel bad for this garbage that will surely make a lot of money.
It was basically 'dont you assholes have phones? Well shut the fuck up and play it, you dickheads!'
Gaming journalists. They're supposed to be consumer advocates, not shareholder advocates.
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oh no my friend you got it all wrong,most of them serving one agenda or the other,you have no idea what they capable of,never trust them
Man, i know gaming journalist are a joke and all. But for them to call people cry babies and entitled shows how much they go against the consumers no matter what.
All media becomes corrupt in short order.
If they're getting paid to write, you're not getting the real story.
Hell, even if they aren't getting paid, they might be trying to push their own agenda.
At least with independant media you can make a judge of character on how reliable each individual person is.
You don't get that with news organizations. Just a big, faceless homogenous mess.
I don't trust journalists anymore. The only general gaming newscaster I listen to is our boi Yong.
I do follow some UA-camrs but they are mostly fixiated on one franchise and not gaming as a whole like our boi Yong
I tried the new Immortal, and the best class to use is the Un-install Wizard.
Can't believe I'm only the second like.
How is this not a meme
Zing! I am enjoying reading the drama years later.
"Yeah let's insult our fans"
If you don't buy Diablo Immortal you're literally worse than Drumpf.
@@harrymason4300 Hahaha funny
And pander to the more wider easy to control demographic 😁 yup
I believe that worked out really well for E.A and battlefield 'fortnight edition'
"Yeah, that's good, do that."
-Someone at Blizzard who's not good at life, 2018
Why is it when a big game is disliked its always......
“Gamers are rascist”
“Gamers are sexist”
“Gamers are ignorant”
Well if gamers are so bad then why make the disliked game? Oh its because the games in question were not made to be games. They’re made to be services you have to pay to enjoy. If you wanna make a phone game fine, if you wanna add micro transactions fine, if you wanna add loot boxes fine. But don’t blame gamers for disliking something not made for them
Cause they expect...demand gamers to buy this game.
EVERYTHING IS SEXIST EVERYTHING IS RACIST AND THEY ARE HERE TO POINT THAT OUT
See the top reply thread in comments. That’s why.
@Subi_fan Yeah, the last one was a smashing success! SMH...Christ, show a little more self-awareness on why you're still near where you want to be in a way that doesn't involve conspiracy theories. You might actually get somewhere.
@@johnathonhaney8291
What are you even saying? Plus, you do realize that GG was massively successful, right?
I don't give a shit if they make a mobile game. I'm not interested in buying it and I won't play it personally, but I don't care. What bothers me is the mistreatment of the fans, the disrespect Blizzard has shown. Mark Kern is right on the money with his comments.
Roadstar1602 they hype up a game that was on the phone and that disrespect fans?
Get out yo feelings.
@@latroyw4650 They hype up a game that's being released on the phone in a convention filled with heavy PC gamers as its main attraction as the main game to release info about in BlizzCon, their major convention. THAT is what disrespected the fans. Not the game itself, but when, where, and how they did it.
Note to game developers: don’t insult an already angry crowd. That’s PROBABLY not a good idea
Mindy Auron I understand how easy it is to blurt our something you don’t consider the weight of when getting attacked from all sides, but this went a bit over the top lol
Probably classic "sounded better in his head". Rule of thumb. Be very very careful with rhetorical questions.
Yea, just look at that putz from EA/DICE who called gamers uneducated for the BFV backlash, then he got fired.
Jack Tilley it doesn’t take 6 years to make a mobile game that is a knockoff of a knock off that copied your own game and to sell it at your biggest event as if people will be stoked for it, all the while hyping it as if it’s gonna be the next real entry and then afterwards, insult your already angry crowd
It doesn’t take 6 years to make a cheap knockoff mobile game, but it apparently only takes 6 seconds to destroy it
*cough* EA *cough*
I wasnt expecting Diablo 4, and yet i was still disappointed...
I was expecting something along the lines of free Diablo junk for 3 like a preview of a new season or a new free dlc chapter to bridge the story between 3 a d4 whenever it comes ouy
I don't play diablo or blizzard games and I'm disappointed
They literally said Diablo 4 would not be announced at Blizzcon this year. Did you think they were lying? Yes it was moronic for Blizzard to release this without announcing one of their other new Diablo projects, similar to Bethesda with the Elder Scrolls Blades and Elder Scrolls 6. But to say Blizzard was bringing up hype around Diablo is very dishonest.
@@300Darkwater Diablo 4 reveal was pulled from Blizzcon this year , it's not like they have not thing to show yet
It was moronic for a PC game company with only two games on console to try to hype a mobile game to fans who spent thousands on gaming PC's and hundreds on the convention.
It is easy to understand: While hosting a convention centered around your majority PC game lineup, announce to a room full of PC gamers that the next installment of one of the most beloved PC game franchises ever is going to be a mobile game with no plans to make a PC version.
What were they thinking?!
@@Hydra_X9K_Music I don't know but clearly at this point drinking the koolaid
@@Hydra_X9K_Music they didnt lol
And no hint.
Exactly. Media sites are turning this situation into "gamers are entitled" bullshit again as if Blizzard didn't fuck up themselves by having their biggest announcement be a mobile game to the completely wrong audience.
These gaming journalists are either:
1. Writing something positive about these kinds of companies because they are paid to.
2. They want to be different instead of just hopping onto the hate train so they could get more readers.
3. They like paying to win because they know aren't good with games.
4. They are just trolls.
5. They know nothing about this industry or they are only viewing it from a profit perspective.
Aerulion Sol No they aren't being paid persay, but nobody wants to be critical for fear of being blacklisted and losing access to prerelease copies. They are sucking up and just as out of touch as Blizzard.
Only 1 and 5 can be considered serious possibilities.
@@foist101 Yeah. Kinda my point there. Thx for the better wording.
6. all of the above
I'll take option 6: they're afraid of losing access
"Do you guys not have phones?"
No. No I do not. FUN FACT: Some people don't have phones.
I have a phone. I use it for communication, tho. Fuck me right? 33/m/S.Africa - because that seems relevant xD
PC MASTER RACE
Yes but more common to have a phone than a computer. Many rely on it solely for internet.
www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/
www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/12/evolution-of-technology/
But are the people that going to play games like that are going to likely ones playing Diablo or even the mobile version?
They are trying to port to a new audience and don’t even understand them either. Lol
exactly but we all have gaming pcs
@@LamGorYun
Not all of us.
Imagine if Ferrari came out and said that in the last 6 years, most of their efforts was focused on making a lawn mower... Yeah, that's pretty much what blizzard did.
Don't you guys have lawns?! Lmao
@rico dyson And wait until the Mondial de l'Automobile in Paris to reveal their lawn mower to a paying audience.
The Harley Davidson moped. "You guys know how to pedal, right?" The McDonald's soy burger. "You guys have ketchup, don't you?" The Budweiser wine cooler "Holy crap, I'm about to get my ass kicked."
lawn mower would be more interesting then shitty chinese mobile game, and BFA expansion of WoW, both are shit by the way, but id like to see more of this Lawn Mower
@@kyotheman69 It could be a competitor to that Honda Super-Mower.
Maybe Lamborghini and Porsche could get back into the tractor industry and we could begin the World Farming Equipment Championshop
Activision's stock price fell 6.36% today. Keep on charming us Hacktavision. Be a shame if it fell to 2009 levels.
Tnadz Rex glad I sold my shares last year
I feel like it's not Activision at fault here. Not that they're moral paragons, but that they took their downvotes on cod:iw and left them there unlike blizzard.
@@chukyuniqul it doesn't mean anything. Activision could have learned and thought "Oh no! Not again! We have to do something about it this time!".
@@Draclord35 Fair enough, but I'm indifferent towards activision while i LOATHE blizzard so you'll understand my bias :)
@@chukyuniqul TBH that dislike thing is probably automatic on youtubes side. Made to battle bots and multiple accounts.
I don't know if that reflects on the likes but the difference would be a *lot* harder to see. This hasn't been the first time and there has been cases where likes have fluctuated also a lot in some videos.
It's just harder to notice because:
a) people don't usually pay attention to those kinds of things.
and
b) on the blizzard video if it generated 100k dislikes, the missing of 50k would be noticed in an instant as it's under a spotlight. While generate 1-2k but missing 500 or even 5-50 is not noticeable. Not to mention those likes are probably not by bots and/or multi accounts.
Not protecting blizz. Just pointing it out. Still hate this fact and this is utter horseshit.
im only a casual gamer, but even i know you dont walk up to a bunch of pc gamers and tell them to "suck it up and buy this mobile game"
and game journalists blaming gamers for reacting this way are just letting blizzard get away with it, since now most of people's ire is going to be directed at them instead of the company
Most game journalists will blame the gamers, they have to suck AAA dick on command or end up on the black list. With that being said, fuck those AAA ball sucking cum farts. Our anger is justified, Activision-blizzard jerked us along then revealed this reskinned money-grab.
It's the same as a 5 star prestigeous resteraunt buying a stockroom of Burger King items and expecting their customers to enjoy it.
Game journalists (which are pretty much composed of liberal SJWs and their Beta Male white knights) have an axe to grind against gamers after Gamergate and the criticism they receive criticizing their lack of gaming skills and understanding.
They will always side on the team that works against the interest of the gamers no matter how malicious and corporately evil they are.
Which is kinda ironic since these are coming from the same group who are whining about rich people becoming richer because of corporate greed.
When 98% of their customers play on PC and have been waiting for a good diablo since 2, it's dumb to think there wouldn't be backlash. No one would care if there was a phone game as long as diablo 4 got a teaser. They failed their customers and journalists are acting like gamers are in the wrong.
@@gelmir7322 .....???? Wow, that's got nothing to do with anything. Way to bring back some tired old memes though.
EA's stock has dropped almost 30% over the last year. They are reaping what they sow. Blizzard Activision stock plummeted after the Diablo Immortal fail. Companies will take notice of gamers or they will fail.
Well, we hope that is the case anyway. But mobile is a very profitable market made up almost entirely of people who are not really gamers. Their standards for quality are much lower and their willingness to spend money on MTXs is much higher. When Activison Blizzard doubled down and said all their best devs are now working on mobiles, what that really means is that we are no longer profitable enough for them. So we're no longer the target audience. We get the mediocre devs and the scraps they are given to work with while the lion's share of their time and effort goes to catering to the mobile masses. Namely the Chinese market. Unless China cracks down on MTXs in games in a big way, it's unlikely that our collective outrage will dissuade them at all.
I really wish EA would just hurry and frecking die.them and take two Represent everything i hate about gaming nowdays.
The only thing really making ea alot of money is the sports games but some of my normie friends are like starting to see it. They are like this game is trash why hasn't it gotten better. Some are waiting a year in between now. And complaining about the whole cards shit my friend saw how much he spent and was like na I aint playing anymore.
@@Nick-rl8pn +1 Nick. Yup, that's the fear. If mobile is so much more profitable, then there is a real possibility that game devs will stop making PC games altogether! I don't see the Chinese government cracking down on MTX, but maybe the Chinese individuals themselves will collectively wake up and stop wasting money on MTX. I still can't believe they fall for this crap.
@@fazdoll There will always be a market for none mobile games, if game devs starts moving to mobile that just opens a vacuum for indie games to go AAA and makes everything better.
What these gaming publishers and gaming journalists don't understand is this. These investors they're in bed with will not be sticking with them when things get worse.
I'm suprised Mark Kern didn't utter those exact words...they seem like something he'd say.
Thats the whole point of a shill. They have no moral nor ethics. They will sell their own mother if its necessary. A very disgusting bunch.
Investors sell
Company will cry
www.barrons.com/articles/activision-stock-plunges-as-gamers-seethe-over-diablo-immortal-1541454495
@@Elbethium to my experience gamers are now turning their backs to this shit
Activision stock is down over 6 percent today. Hopefully Blizzard got the message now...
It's a signal, not a statement. Heavier losses are required.
Synful Shadows That needs to go down 10-20%
Kai Yahya. 6% is huge. The message has been sent. That’s EA post Battlefront 2 levels of damage. You shouldn’t want blizzard to go bankrupt. We still want Diablo 4 and Diablo 2 remastered and they cant do that without money.
Actually most stocks in all industries are down. Prepare for a new recession soon.
@@langa77777 At this point you still believe blizzard is capable of making quality game?
A hd port or remaster is what they can do the best
Diablo 4? Don't think about it
omfg someone dragged masculinity and feminity in the issue
It's current year on Twitter. Of course they did.
A wild sjw appeared.
Welcome to 2018!
Some morons in Yong's last report on this stupidly had to blame SJWs like the immature dumbasses they are, which didn't help.
@@johnathonhaney8291 Both extreme SJWs and extreme anti-SJWs are a failure imo. However, if I had to side with one or the other, I would go with SJWs - less chance of ending up in some kind of a fascist environment.
Diablo lost it's way. It was the darkness, the upside down crosses, the fear, the demons crackling, the pentagrams. When you first came into the butcher's room and you heard "Mmmm, Fresh meat". The eerie guitar music. It all got changed to pg-13 cartoons. I am sad a true Diablo is not being made.
I felt the same. When I play the first diablo, I didn't understand the details of the story, but I feel the ambient, the town was gone and deaths by a fearful deamons. Diablo 2 was a little different because the deamons where not underground and from another world. Diablo 3 was completely different, the deamon don't make fear and are only mutants creatures, and the humans are very stupid.
@Shedding don't forget the droning sound constant in every track that plays underground.
Huge Diablo fan until they revealed the graphic changes to WoWblo, stopped playing it moved on to Path of Exile which i feels stays truer to D2 then D3
@@MadaraUchiha-ng7gh glad to see people bringing up PoE 😉
Agree 100%. They would get a lot of fans back with a remake of d2.... or even D1
I became a Patron today because the gaming industry sorely needs more analysis and critique and it's voices like yours that will help communities hold large companies to account.
We deserve better than what the likes of Blizzard, Bethesda and EA are giving us. Things used to be better, when these companies were young and hungry. They grew fat, greedy and ignorant. The people behind these companies have become business men and women, they are no longer gamers.
And also most of the original people who made these companies successful are no longer their and it feels like a shit on their legacy.
Exactly, it's no longer about the gameplay and story but how much money they can milk gamers.
If Diabo immortal WAS for gamers, EVEN if it was mobile, it would have been a SINGLE PLAYER with NO MICROTRANSACTION OFFLINE game. But of course, it is just another microstransaction riddled mobile CASH GRAB.
@@kusog3 It wouldn't an offline game as co-op is a huge part of the Diablo experience. It wouldn't be an always-on game though.
@@Varian-Killbot Doesn't change the fact that Diable Immoral is mobile cash grab, make it a paid game with NO microtransactions, EVEN if it is multiplayer I'd be down for it.
Blizzard makes games for Investors and not people. How could that go wrong.......right?!?!
Can't wait until they see the problems Telltale had because of doing that.
Drivertilldeath exactly. They’re using feminists as a way to deflect our anger at sjws and it’s working beautifully. I see stupid fucks mad at feminists more than blizzard 😂 tf man
It'll go wrong the second legislation lands that prevents gatcha/Skinner box gambling on mobile games. Then all the developers that dumped all their talented Dev teams for trash mobile devs will have nothing to make, and no talent left to transition back to traditional game development... Also many of the current mega companies value is based solely on their micro transaction based profit models, prepare for a major crash if that revenue stream disappears.
I'm a gamer AND a Blizzard stockholder. So I get to be DOUBLE JACKPOT DISAPPOINTED!
But we dont know if this game will have a lot of micro transactions. It could be like those dungeon hunter mobile games that cost like $9.99 and are full games. I would be happy if is like that
Blizzard ... Trying new stuff is okay but saying "don't you guys have phones?!" Is just insult to the fans.
@Arkryder 52 at least they can say we want to try new stuff and probably bring it to pc to enhanced the gaming experience or something.
It was a poor choice of words but the guy's job was to convince a huge crowd that a shit sandwich was cake. It was always gonna end badly. He probably drew the shortest straw.
God I hated that...
*"Don't you guys have phones?"*
Yes. Have you actually played on one Blizzard? Obviously not.
And trying to bring gender and race into this garbage. My God, people's brains must be inverted and mush.
Goes to show that corporation are indeed out of touch with gamers, and honestly, entire communities. Hell, it doesn't even feel human anymore. It's weird.
Commander Useless they are in touch they just don’t care
I really hope that guy losses his job and works at Chick Fil A
@@commanderuseless1685 well CD Project Red still cares about us gamers
@@NightmareEyez88 oh boy, this aged well.
Blizzard: We have heard your calls and we have listened. Our community is the heart of our company. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for your guys. And as a way to thank all of you, we are proud to announce DIABLO PACHINKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PULL THE LEVER!
RNG will be even more screwed up than Legendary drop rate .
Oh god.
Like Konami did with Metal Gear, who knows, Blizzard may go that way, like Konami.
Lmao
"Hating P2W mobile games == toxic masculinity" ? Are you effing kidding me ? I'm pretty sure every *female* Diablo fan hates the idea as well : do _they_ also express toxic masculinity ? I blame Google : those "journalists" are just playing the SEO game.
Gamer chick chiming in. Yeah. Nobody wants this shit. It's been vastly accepted that the franchise has been on PC and Mac as a priority. Was fine they ported Diablo to psx, was a good port even. The diablo 3 ports to console I can't speak from experience but it seems like it translated weirdly. Anyway. It boggles my mind they think that people want a mobile game (and yes you are definitely right it would be p2w since they've gotten away with it for a while now with Overwatch), or at least mock their player base "what, no phone?" with that stupid smirk. Like... um... yes phones are more advanced now but not everyone is going to have the latest and greatest frigging iPhone. There's plenty of people who use so-so android phones, and that's why it was slightly acceptable to port their games to console: mostly the simplicity of similarity in specs. It's a shame that this company would have initially come from nearly humble beginnings to become this... We all knew dumb choices like this would eventually come up. They changed so much right around Diablo II that even some employees who were there for the first Diablo got uneasy and left. Then they let the battle.net servers rot as people threw money at them to play WoW, their perfect little cash cow. They've just gotten sloppier and sloppier, and just as much more greedy. The Activision merger just made them even worse. It's only a matter of time before their finances take a hit for their choices. I enjoy HotS, but that is a prime example of sheer laziness and holding out their hands for cash. That is the kind of game that will eventually die. It has no story. It is a repetitive game. Meanwhile games they made in the past have a huge following still, because of the flavor of them. Not just pew pew buy a box rinse and repeat. It's like they forgot everything and got shitty like EA. Well, we all know what happens to companies acquired by EA (Rip OG Origin). Guess that's Blizzard's fate after being acquired by Activision...
And yes. As for the maddening "sexist" bullshit, it's tiring. I tire of the way journalism pits groups of people against each other to generate infamy and clicks. Them and the people who find every reason to get pissed off are part of the problem.
SEO?
@@JohnHenryEden2277 Search Engine Optimization i believe, basically doing it for clicks
How do you know the game is p2w?
@@jackyyo1998 because it's a reskin of chinese Endless Godsomethingwhatchamacallit - pure p2w
Do YoU GuYs NoT HaVe PhOnEs?
kotaku.com/sources-blizzard-pulled-diablo-4-announcement-from-bli-1830232246/amp
*YoU aLl ArE sElF-eNtItLeD mAn BaBiEs!!1!*
@@BlueGreyWolf ????
@@BlueGreyWolf I'm just spreading the news that I felt they were going to announce Diablo for but it was pulled from BlizzCon I guess and it was not ready yet
@Robert Brown he was making a sarcastic joke
Dropping a teaser for Elder Scrolls 5 is what Bethesda did when announcing Blades. Zero backlash received for that, and properly done.
Elder Scrolls 6* but you're absolutely right
And also Announced that Blades will do a Skyrim and be in all consoles for the future after its release, which they even mentioned the CONSOLES where it will come out.
Same with Fallout, they showed Fallout Shelter and right after Fallout 4
too bad skyrim is trash
@@sgtpepper91 I don't want to tell you that you're wrong, but like...no one agrees with you so
I’m sure the devs and producers are thinking “We told you so”. They just have to be careful so they don’t lose their jobs. I don’t blame them! I blame the suits for putting them on stage to announce this bullshit and get eaten alive. This whole situation in indicative of where the industry is going. I wish people would stop playing these shitty mobile games, they don’t realize they are ruining is for everyone and giving in to predatory business practice.
Because I went back to school I am seeing the way the new generation plays games. What we used to call the attention span of someone with ADD has now become the new norm. They play a game one day, and the next day they've already started playing the next one. In the span of just a few months I've seen my classmates go through more than 10 games. I can't even see what's fun about that..
They're also talking most about games like the new assassins creed, COD, Fortnite, Fifa and all those other low effort cash grab type games. I hate to say it, but I don't really see the industry changing for the better any time soon.
Agreed. There's NO WAY no one in the company, particularly the dev side, didn't call this but they kept their mouth shut because of the pressure not to speak out against those in positions of power who refuse to respect the audience (let alone their subordinates and coworkers), seeing them as some cash cow that should just buy what they are given like the good cattle they are.
Unfortunately, a lot of the people playing these games are either:
1) Working adults with a lot of money, but no time to spend on pc gaming (hence choose gaming on the go)... or
2) A new generation of kids with easy access to tablets and smartphones and the permission of their rich parents to buy stuff online.
The PC and console market is slowly dying out due to the sheer accessibility of these phones and tablets.
im actually curious as to how many games in a row have to fail before these companies close or change
or are they actually "too big to fail"
@@Noximien I'm not sure what your first paragraph has to do with the subject, except overall saltiness.
Gob smacked at those "gaming journalist's" reactions. They just come across as being so out of touch with the people they are meant to represent and have other agendas behind their comments.
Also, they didn't pay for their fucking tickets to enter Blizzcon while the fans literally spent hundreds if not thousands just to travel there and see the event.
#gamergate was a thing guys.
plus how many of these journalists actually play games? anyone can get a journalism degree and write about anything
@@vaanian6610 nowadays all you need is to be non white and non straight and you can get hired as a journalist just about anywhere.
Just like journalists reviewing films and television these days.
Blizzard: hey let's produce a mobile version of Diablo
People: alrightyeahm8thatsprettygud
Blizzard: but were gonna hint at it all this time like a sequel and reveal it at a pc focused event where only the hardcore fans will be
People: for Fucks sake.
DoN't y'AlL hAve PhOneS??
Shut the fuck up..
anyone who thought that it was hinting to a sequel is silly, diablo 3 is pretty recent and warcraft 3 would be the next game in line to get a sequel (or diablo 2 getting a remaster)
stop being such entitled brats! start enjoying things that are bad and were handled objectively wrong!
@@theSato yeah 6 years is recent
@@theSato 2012.....SO RECENT! >.>
Blizzard is advertising shampoo in a cancer ward and can't figure out why people think it's tasteless.
Haha
Valve announces Half Life 3 exclusively for Kindle Tablets.
Gives me a reason to use my damn Kindle lolol I like actual books instead
I would just buy 15 kindle tablets and 16 copies of hlf3
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Hahahahh xD made my day xD
YOU HAVE TOASTER RIGHT, YOU PLAY TOASTER NOW
Blizzard is no longer the one we knew, now its just Activision with an Alias.
exactly! Diablo 3 release has already been an Acitvision game, i´m pretty sure they told Blizzard to fix it and even though it took a while, they did. Still not my favorite Diablo, but compared to the release version? i mean, WOW!
Blizzard is somebody that we use to know.
It’s nuts to me. Seeing these companies that were filled with those so passionate about creating games as an extension of passion and care to present beautiful and fun products now purely trying to get as much money as humanly possible as fast as possible. What these companies will come to learn is that the dedicated gaming community isn’t full of idiots. Casual players may come in the millions and be willing to spend a few dollars, but creating games purely for the casual audience will turn away the people that are devoted to supporting them. We are the ones that created their ivory towers in the first place.
Passion and love to give the best experience are the things that bring in the real money and audience.
That "they just hate women" theory is the most hilariously insidious thing ever.
It couldn't possibly be the inferior graphics, controls, monetization, dumbed-down gameplay, pacing that's designed for short play sessions, etc etc.
It must be they want to avoid women. Women who are also entirely free to play PC games if they want.
Toxic masculinity but really they're the toxic ones.
Flip that argument, journalists thinks women want and deserve inferior graphics, controls, monetization, dumbed-down gameplay, pacing that's designed for short play sessions, etc etc. Man those journalists sure are misogynistic asses.
Also the next thing he says. "Im working in Mobile Esports scene"... Which is a landmine of toxic masculinity. Hypocrite if you ask me.
Totally expecting "Orange Man bad" damn funny.
I actually think there's a kernel of truth to the misogyny claim, though I agree it's predominantly the fact that core gamers are turned off by the inferior mobile experience. Core gaming (particularly PC gaming) has traditionally been male-dominated, and since men are more likely to be core gamers they're more likely to be turned off mobile games and we end up with a culture where mobile gaming is dominated with casual gamers, many of which are women. This feeds into the cultural notion that casual/mobile games are for girls and core games are for boys, which in turn feeds back into the existing divide. It's a positive feedback loop.
So while of course it's ridiculous to argue they're ONLY shitting on it being a mobile game because they associate mobile gaming with women, I think it would be accurate to say that, for many, men see mobile gaming as somewhat emasculating.
The modern day games industry where the people that want your money insult you for enjoying their products, and the media publishes articles explaining how their readers are evil.
Tomorrow in gaming news: "Blizzard slams ex-employee for being a sexist"
They'll probably skip sexist and go straight for transphobic
Don't forget racist and anti gay probably
*intense looking* Riot Games
I can already imagine all the game journalists scrolling all the way to their oldest tweets just to find a really offensive tweet from years ago...
Twitter will remove his blue check-mark for that.
"Diablo Immortal", ironic name considering how much lifespan this game will have when it launches.
Ever heard of Metal Gear Survive?
@@cliffturbo2146 it never really survived lol
They don't care about you, this was a game for China.
As much as I hate to say it, this game will likely turn out fine. Mobile games are made to appeal to everyone, anyone with a phone will be able to play Diablo Immortal and they won't care if it's on PC or not because they likely weren't fans of Diablo in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I think Blizzard was stupid to unveil a MOBILE game at Blizzcon, but it will still make them money none-the-less.
Diablo-shill. The lifespan, minimal, the grudge: immortal.
Insulting your fans is NEVER a smart move and having a Diablo game be riddled with microtransactions
It isn't but this could work out for them.
I can't understand ActiBlizz 😂 How the fuck could they not know that gamers tolerate a lot of things, but getting insulted ain't one of them.
Pattie boi's comments on BF5? Jesus, don't ActiBlizz follow news? Goddamn.
The customer is ALWAYS right. That's not just a PR term, its a revenue term. If people are unhappy, they will leave and therefor wont spend money. It's in Blizzards best interests to admit fault and go on damage control. Blizzard has lost credibility with their base (myself included). I foresee this having a clear cut on Blizzcon tickets (virtual and real) next year.
We can only hope so, since "profits" is the only language these corporate overlords speak.
Well, after working in retail you notice that the customer isn't always right. But when it comes to products like this I completely agree
Hmm costumers made some mistakes for example in wow
We never should have wanted dungeon finder or
"Please make this game less grindy and a bit more rng to be a bit more random rather than a "this item drops or not" kind of thing"
These decisions were started by the costumers.. both destroy wow ever so slowly
Or not slowly because wow sub count is at an all-time low now
My point is that costumer decisions are not always right but this disaster is completely on blizzard
If people are unhappy they will leave.... No, only the original PC gamer people will leave. Bilzzard is more than willing to let go of them. Why should Blizzard bother with these pesky original customers and their petty demands, when have a billion Chinese customers willing to MTX themselves into the poor-house? I'm sorry to be harsh, but that's what they talk about in these corporate boardrooms.
Blizzard can't be this oblivious... I mean everyone has literally told them exactly what they want. It's almost as if they are doing this shit on purpose..
Steve S They did it on purpose and admitted they were working with NetAzz for many years. Stringing us all along for 6+ years. RIP PC Diablo
It's scary, they're starting to smell like EA.
The amount of money they're making off Overwatch is ridiculous. The greed plague is slowly taking over Blizzard............ which is extremely unfortunate. I'm not mad. Just disappointed. Very, very disappointed...
They are ActivisionBlizzard. Not just blizzard, the second they merged they weren't the same company anymore
@@606hunter1 yep
They're still working on diablo 4...they've been working on it for a while and that's what most people want...hell most of the original and long term blizzard devs are the ones in charge this has nothing to do with Activision this is just trying to make mobile gaming more appealing and open to people trying to bring it into the market. The market is a mess though especially on mobile and everyone is worried immortal Is just a clone of another game with the diablo tag..and an mmo well actually a lot of people were interested in an mmo diablo but I'm pretty sure they didn't mean on a phone..there are very few good phone games...that are worth spending some times on and be enjoyable while most are time wasters and that's it. That or horrible repeats or broken or so pay to win or something that it's just pointless...that's why people are pissed and I can agree. Diablo 2 remake I think diehard fans would be happy and I wouldn't mind..but most people dont want a remake of diablo 2 from what I've seen...I can see why though plus it's far far too over hyped for what it was.. I'm going back playing though and honestly it puts me to sleep fatsee than d3 does .-. I just find the game lacking in many areas as for its darker aesthetic well..eh sort of the older style of graphics helps what really makes it better in its darker aesthetic is its lighting. That shit is almost perfect there. Made another character today hit act 2 again and...apparently my pump died on my aio..so that's getting replaced the company is just replacing it quite easy thing has a 5 year warranty which is nice. I dont think they're oblivious I think they're scared that Activision will either destroy them or take control..they have the means to do so it's not easy when Activision can do a number of things to really harm them..honestly I'd preferred ten cent being in a partnership with them. Theres one older diablo dev though that just has massive paranoia...the last.guy I forgot his name.is stepping down because of his mental health...hes old enough as is and I'd imagine his brain is starting to fail slowly anyways. Diablo 2 was good but the story was just as bad as d3s when you look at it...most of the darker aesthetics starts in act 1 and 3 and I believe its act 4. But even in act 1 it's really not that dark at all...the older look sort of makes it more creepy. By act 2..well it basically loses that factor and act 3 I find brings it back quite well which I enjoy i feel stupid for not remembering act 4 well enough..and I forgot if theres an act 5 or not with LoD ..oh god imma get a lot of hate for that. D3 improves in most areas...the lighting was a fail in 3 and the story and cutscences could have had a darker vibe reaper of souls did it some justice with how death tore the souls from the new horadrim. The lighting once again is just too much it does the game no justice..proper lighting would help greatly if you ask me. The skills system needs some more refining and sets needs to be reworked or removed and replaced. Power creep needs to slow down and not be so fast. Rune words and charms some people like them I think rune words could be good still instead of just gems and leg gems. Charms are really just a whatever item they can be replaced with something better and more interesting. The way potions work that needs some refining and for the love of god the teleporting needs to be changed to something that makes sense not just pressing T to open a portal. And identifying...you shouldn't ge able to list identify everything maybe simple magic items. Maybe the wizards or other classes could have passive skill or one that you can choose to add that allows d3 system of portaling and identifying. That's some of what I have
That moment when a former diablo producer even says they should have pulled a Bethesda
No surprise Kotaku is among those calling the fans excessive morons over anger. I mean, if they want to project that kind of stupidity, whatever
@@ChaoticLimited - Because Kotaku are sellout shills and SJWs.
@@Jordan-Ramses I must have read a different article to you guys
@@ChaoticLimited shills. People who defend these shady companies are nothing but crones and shills.
Pretty much all the major ''Games Journalists'' jumped at the opportunity to defend Activision-Blizzard with nonsense arguments.
Coincidentally they're also showing ads for the game. _HMMMM_
Fuck Kotaku and fuck game journalists. Yong Yea makes them look like ignorant children. They need to get a real job for real since all they do is talk shit about gamers all the time.
I spent more money on Hearthstone then I have on all Blizzard products in the past.
I'm sorry. I contributed, in a small way, to this fiasco.
RIP Diablo. We had a lot of fun.
True this.
Damn.
but see, the thing about Hearthstone is that it was on PC first. Sure, it's massive on mobile now but it was originally a PC game.
@@bonzathebear7289 I spent over $400 and only played it on PC, never played it on mobile. I'm a loser. I helped make the world shit.
I got less than 100 hours of gameplay out of HearthStone. I played WoW way more than 1,000 hours.
I remember excitedly yelling on the mic with internet friends in WoW. I don't remember ever being that excited in Hearthstone.
HS has nothing to do with that.
I only gave money to hearthstone once i thought i got enough value that they deserved it, (took like 2 - 3 years) and even then it was still cheaper than most TCG's are. I don't feel bad though i am tempted to drop both overwatch and hearthstone after this.
I'm not even a diablo fan, this is news is just funny to me. Like an off season april fools joke
You are right. There is still hope by the way like Bethesda with Wolfenstein and doom or Devolver with their awesome Indies like hotline Miami or mother Russia bleeds. Let's support those companies in hope that it will change the industry.
Same, to be honest. Never even played Diablo, I just enjoy looking at devs trying to undig their grave.
@@alkaiosvonhabsburg9613 I can't wait to play it on my phone
That’s what I thought too!
85% of those gaming journalists don’t even play videos games. So I don’t care about what they have to say.
Indeed. Imagine if 85% of political journalists didn't know anything about politics, and instead just said things that fit their own narrative rather than doing genuine journalism.
Oh. :(
Drunken Hobo I think that’s exactly whats happening here in the U.S. right now. The things people do just to further their own agenda, the hell with integrity. Amiright!?
@@theblackphantom7314 Since when has this never happened again?
*"Do you guys not have phones!?"*
Smokealotapotamus _ I want a Blizzard poster and written under it is that quote 🤣🤣
Bring a cactus to next BlizzCon
Ask like question : "are you not all huge assholes?"
@Ugly Troll Get a flip phone atleast so you have a way to make/recieve important phone calls.
I have a Nokia.
This is so meme
Anything touched by Activision’s greed burns to the ground.
Anything touched by *Disney’s* greed burns to the ground.
:V
:V
@@protostar5946 ik :(
Years ago, I was uncomfortable with Activision merging with Blizzard, and the merging of developers in general, but I'm sad to say that my hunch was spot on.
Same.
Reminds me of Aidan sticking diablo's soul stone to his forehead thinking he could contain him, just to be possessed later on
Poor blizzard...
I have a phone, it's a smart phone meaning two things. It gets hot when playing game, games seem to drain battery life.
And the data....my God why don't they think about the data?!
@@aggressivedemocrat3649 wifi I think, but still all that DATA!!!
Can we please have back the time were being a gamer was a social stigma that made you appear as pathetic and not cool? Because ever since being a "gamer" became popular the whole thing went down the drain save for few exceptions.
Ah, Christ...another victim of the nostalgia trap. Hate to break it to you but that ain't how time works. Besides, wouldn't you rather be on the lookout for folks who will make this better once the profits start leveling off and possibly crashing across the board?
You know what....i couldnt agree more with you on that sentiment. What happened to us...to them!?
Nah. If gaming didn't become a commercial success we wouldn't have all the advancements in programming and hardware.
That’s the price of popularity. Greedy fucks will find it and cash in for as much dough as possible and leave.
Johnathon Haney it’s not nostalgic. Looking at this from a solely economical and marketing perspective, it makes perfect sense. What he said, I mean. With more mainstream success, more businessmen caring about money and not games jumped on board. And they sought to gain more customers, because that’s what matters at the end of the day: income. So they sought to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
This would ofc upset those that had once filled the niche, as they were no longer the target audience.
It’s not nostalgia, my guy. It’s simple economics.
Even though I don't play Diablo, I stand with the community. I feel bad for you guys.
Ikr bro. I feel super bad for the fans.
Came here to say that. This whole thing is absurd. Damn Blizzard. Damn.
Gaben did this to me with Artifact, i feel ya'll.
Where is all of you when its needed for League of Legends.U all dont care how shity company is and how many problems we have.
@@noxusguy9735 League of Legends has a community? I was led to believe the game was just a salt mine 🤔
"I work in mobile gaming Esports" - guy who claimed that hating mobile games is sexist
.....wut?
I mean a mobile game as your big announcement at a convention filled with unassumingly your most hardcore fans..... who are mostly PC gamers.... wow
kotaku.com/sources-blizzard-pulled-diablo-4-announcement-from-bli-1830232246/amp
Yeah, but of course there are people that are turning around disappointment as "self-entitlement." Disgraceful, really.
@@avatarwarmech Do you work for Jason Schreier?
I wouldn't be surprise if diablo 4 was a mobile game just to piss off the fanbase even more
Wouldn't minded if it was console announcement neither, since it has been always PC&console versa. But a MOBILE??? What were they thinking...
you guys all have phones right?
Sure do. Meanest game I've ever played on it is pazaak.
Yup. It has a QWERTY keyboard that some of the buttons don't work, it's only 3G, AT&T stopped supporting internet functionality on it, and can't play games that aren't Java-based (provided you downloaded them before the internet support was turned off). An iPhone X is 6 weeks' pay, provided I don't drive to work, pay my cell phone bill, pay my car insurance, eat, or pay my internet bill. LOL
@Jerry C not really, in Hungary you are lucky if you get that much payment.
yea that satellite phone with the antenna on it
Mobile games are repetitive. And gems is essential which cause money and loot boxes. And its just a clone of other popular games.
*So who else expected Diablo 4 to be announced? ✅🙂*
I don’t buy EA games , or games that shove micro transactions down your throat. Speak with your wallet. Simple.
This. It's so fucking simple.
Exactly. I refuse to buy any of EA's games.
Retards like shiny things, and publishers found the perfect way to exploit that.
These games are not targeted towards the average gamer is more targeted towards rich whales who already spend alot on mobile games and will contiunue to spend more
Unfortunately, to "speak with your wallet" in this case means to not speak (ie not pay for microtransactions in a f2p game).
Much much more people "speak" with their wallets by buying in-app-purchases, so much so to the point that it's pointless for game companies to listen to any other kind of "speech".
Welcome to the world today.
EA: Every year we piss people off harder and harder than people think we can go
Blizzard: *Hold my beer*
El1teFire capcom: oh look, a beer! *drinks vodka*
ubisoft: copy and paste.
EA: *Not blinking strips and lights self on fire while downing jet fuel*
Meanwhile Grinding Gear Games, producer of Path of Exile, just revealed they are releasing PoE on PS4...
Guess they expect their fans not to have phones
that trailer looked so good also!
Is that game complete yet?
Oh shit, seriously? Hot damn.
Swear? Hype!
Is the game free?
I'm not saying Bethesda is the messiah of game developers (especially because of that paid mods fiasco), but they made a mobile game that everyone was excited for.
Todd Howard: "Fallout 4 is coming out later this year, we have a Fallout Anthology being released a couple weeks prior, and as soon as this showcase is over we have a free to play Vault building mobile game launching that you can play while waiting for Fallout 4."
Congratulations Activision-Blizzard you are worse than EA. You managed to top the decimation of Star Wars Battlefront 2.
But then Todd Howard became more vilified than Blizzard with the FO76 fiasco
"Something of a rough week" is a nice description for a category 5 shitnado ^^
5 and still growing
The shit-blizzard is coming Randy!
Soooo..we had Disney peoples bashing fans for being bigots and chauvinists, worked well for them. Then we had Battlefield 5 devs bashing fans for same shit, worked well for them too. Now Blizzard jumped on the high horse and does the same. Will they ever learn?
They don't learn cuz they don't listen the right crowd. But it's fine. The bigger they are the harder they fall and the more it amuses me :)
Dont forget bethesda
@@XProjectBluebeamX bethesda will be forgiven by their fans if they deliver a decent product with elder scrolls 6
@@thebigzan doubt it and that is years from now,at least 3
SO FAR Blizzard hasn't blamed the gamers. But we're waiting for them to start.
There's a reason why inde games are getting more and more popular. There are not safe from this, (no man's sky, yandere simulator, ect) but you are more likely to find someone who isn't greedy.
I know I've been looking around at other options. Grim Dawn, Torchlight 2, PoE, Wolcen, and Lost Ark are all on my radar before anything Blizzard. There was a time where I'd blind buy anything Blizzard. Man, those times are long gone now.
Indie games aren't immune to this kind of crap either, but since there's mountains of them compared to AAA games you'll find more good indie games.
@@jamesalexander5559 that is true
Medo El Naby 2 👈👈😎 This guy gets it!
@@jamesalexander5559 Yup, many many examples of indie devs just out for some quick cash grabs.
Mark Kern literally said everything I say. I miss the relationship that the community used to have with Blizzard. They used to be a team that I looked up to. They are the reason I got into learning development like coding. I used to want to be like them. Now, I want to be better than them. Should not be hard if they keep going down the EA route.
It's depressing to see that the game industry is just snowballing down a hill that will eventually lead to nothing but boring repeats over and over again like EA sports games or Call of Duty... Hopefully companies like CD Projekt RED still hold out. All of the soul is gone. Devs have become nothing but shills for their shareholders. Nobody can even deny it, look how easily all of the major companies just call all of their fans braindead when they don't like something that they've created rather than innovating and improving it.
After near 20 years, I'm slowly uprooting myself from the world of gaming. And backing out.
Good games come out less and less often. And I'm down to buying 1-2 games per year now.
I think it's time to call it quits now...for good...
Greed for money ruins everything.
I just don't get it why dose EA and Activations not see their competition and people buying Halo, GTA, Red Dead Redemption, The Witcher 3, God of war and other great single player games? All these developers were dropping sweats to be delivered but yet the jump to mobile games thinking we want it, I don't mind if it was optional knowing another Diablo game is developed for PC but saying no crruent plans is a bit fucked up . I hope they see how Red dead Redemption broke the history record for weekend sales :/ and that's without mobile game
AmerIdrisFilm Because at the end of the long day, they don’t care. The entire industry is falling more towards just caring about profit. Who cares about quality that takes time and lots of money when you can just churn out low to medium quality products. And if there’s nostalgia in said products then it’s a fatter cash cow to milk. Konami, EA, Activision, and now Blizzard are just some of the biggest examples of this.
They don’t care about good games.
They don’t care about you.
They care about your wallet.
And that’s just... dirty.
I will stick to ether old, independent, or Nintendo games from now on.
Good games are dying. Games aren't a passion project anymore, just solely money driven. Compared to 10+ years ago, way more marketing/communication based jobs have popped up, to help with the exploitation of the customers wallet. Most of the money spent on making video games is invested in marketing, instead of game development. Games before 2008 were actual games. Remember trying out a demo to see if a game is any good, before you bought it? That's replaced with "early access." Most game devs are losing touch with their fans. Small indie games are whats left... Battle Royale games are the current cancer that companies like to fully explore and milk it dry.
Long live CDPR!
No dude, I mean in general yeah, try hollow knight, the 3 dlc r free! Well the 1st and 2nd is great, the 3rd is quiet repetitive.
For good reason. Whenever anyone with passion tries to make a game people shoot it down. Look at Star Citizen. YOU are the reason games are shit.
Sun rise Would you rather have a battle pass or random chance loot boxes, or both? Pick your poison. It’s only a popular game mode, no different from an rpg, puzzle, fighting craze -well except the money.
This bullshit is why I mostly play indie games now.
As much as I hate to mention him, Todd Howard did this much better back with the FO4 and Fallout Shelter reveals at E3 2015. Bethesda showed everyone the hot new FO4 trailer and even provided a release date for it. And afterwards Todd gave the audience Fallout Shelter to tide them over, stating: "Which will be available, for free... tonight." They waited until the heavy-hitter was ready for the release trailer stages, and for their dumb mobile game to be 100% complete for the show. The real heavy-hitting releases by these companies have and will always be flagship titles on PC/consoles, not mobile, no matter how much the industry tries to plug for it.
KingKamor2 it’s why I like Bethesda as a company. Everyone can shit on them, but Bethesda does try to listen to fans and what we want. You want mods, they try to do mods (yes I think it’s dumb of them to make paid mods, but they still let fans make mods). They do need help with story writing but they are a pretty solid company. I’ll wait a year or so to get 76, that way everything settles down. It’s what I did with destiny 2.
part of me thinks they only did the paid mods to bypass Sony
Zero Todona listen to fans? It must be a joke
@@dr.cripples9378 sssssshhhh. He really believes that
@@dr.cripples9378 like it or not, Bethesda KNOWS their audience
Fans never change, blizzard have changed
Blizzard is becoming the next Ubisoft
Some Fâgg0t I see this is a new account
Ubisoft? ubisoft is way better than ACTIVISION-blizzard . maybe becoming EA .
I thought Odyssey was proof enough that they are good.
Can someone tell me what’s so bad about Ubisoft besides the downgrades? Not trying to be rude, just curious. Because all Ubisoft games I’ve played I’ve had some fun with.
But there is nothing bad of ubi
I really hope lootboxes and such schemes become illegal worldwide soon, soon enough it's going to be down to solely the indie developers to keep the franchise alive at all - and by 'alive' I mean providing any meaningful entertainment.
I mean it's gotten to the point where these...things with lootboxes and P2W aspects, specifically, can hardly even be called games, considering most of such 'games' don't provide any real sense of entertainment anymore - let alone a real 'sense of pride and accomplishment'. They're almost just as bad as facebook 'games' that are more akin to interactive movies than games at all - with novice grade coding as the cherry on top.
I mean people gamble with the worlds shittiest odds in Casinos all the time for "fun." The reality is it's just to play off of addicts. Personally if everywhere did the Chinese law of physically showing the odds I wouldn't give 2 shits less as long as it was Overwatch level of lootboxes.
Why rely on governments to determine what you can and can't do? Make the decision yourself. Don't play, don't buy. It's not hard. I do it every day.
The most dangerous aspect of lootboxes is that it's basically legal gambling for minors. And nowhere in politics I see anyone talking about such problems.
indie or small studio's are only ones getting my money now, THQ nortic and any small dev deserve the money, because the triple A industry isn't giving what we want.
good news that their are diablo like games in the works, there is Path of Exile, but others are coming soon, ill give those dev's the money and tell Activision go fuck themselves i will not download their shitty game on my phone.
@@mjl1966y because a billion chinese people who gobble this shit down determines the market and I still like to play actual decent games. I'm all for free markets in almost every sphere, but really in the next few years virtually every AAA company is going to be catering to this market regardless of how the western world votes with their wallet, and all we'll be left with in the PC gaming community is going to be some shitty roguelikes and crowdfunded indie games that manage maybe 1 decent title every year or so.
Mark Kern absolutely nailed. People (customers) aren't "entitled" for being upset about a product that they were hyped about only to discover that it's something no one asked for. Of course anyone can choose not to buy a product that isn't for them, but it's not wrong to speak out against it. This isn't a case of "toxic masculinity" either nor "misogyny" either. Fans (men and women) are upset because Blizzard is out of touch with fans want not to mention responding with a much more disrespectful response of "don't you guys have phones". So let's not try to delegitimize every discussion and complaint using the terms "entitled" or "toxic".
Agreed.
And it's real easy to do. "Yes, I hate women. Still not buying your game." Next.
Especially for the fuckers who payed money for it.
What game conpanies don't seem to get is that *they can do both.* You can release a full game that is actually good and still release *extra* DLC content. Look at the newer South Park game or Spiderman. Rather than releasing half of a game at full price and making us pay extra for the rest. Where did gaming go ?
I study PR and marketing....it IS a common sense to do a market research before making any marketing/PR decisions (because, you know, it's kinda good to know what your consumer wants) . I find it hard to believe they bothered. :D
Not to mention just about anyone (besides the people in charge at Blizz) could have seen that this was going to be a PR disaster.
You mean you find it hard to believe that they *didn't* bother
I feel like maybe they're not in the habit of it because they never used to need to, but I don't know anything.
@@tinybabybread Learn to read before correcting other people's sentences.
@@ilikematches2 Did he not imply that they didn't do their market research? Because if they did bother to do so(which they probably just poorly did regardless), this audience backlash would not have happened.
So there's an oddly suspicious IGN article that sounds like two of your videos Frankensteined. I'd look into it given your track record for excellence and there's not being so hot. Just a tip. Love the videos! You're one of the best. www.ign.com//articles/2018/11/06/diablo-immortals-reveal-was-an-unnecessary-mess
jesus they just cut and paste what he said
Upvote this so he sees. IGN still hasn’t learned apparently.
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"go over well," not "mull over well."
Mull it over means to consider it, or to think it over.
I appreciate your content, Yong! ❤
Jesse H. Genuinely appreciate the correction. 👍
Just appreciating the positivity on this thread :D
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I won’t be playing diablo mobile simply because of the disconnection between blizzard and the gamers
I'm with Mr. Kern here, I'm not against a Diablo mobile game as long as it's an option or a separate project.
Same. Also, I feel like if the mobile game had been one of the earlier Diablo games, the reaction would have been much different.
@@cuteigu8636 i would love Diablo 1 or Diablo 2 on my phone without any microtransactions or changes to the game itself
"You do not have cellphones?"
This was Don Mattrick level of stupid.
Shinkei DEI Indeed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!
I'm not a toddler or a soccer mom.. I'm not gaming on my phone. K, thanks! 😋
Mobile games = monetized slot machine. End of story.
always believe in gacha dude, american gacha is still merciful compare to japanese gacha
@@hayabusahithosi9587 that's really depressing to hear. I would have hoped the golden land of wifus would have better principles.
Man, kinda sad so many agree with this sentiment, I was in the same "all mobile games are trash" boat as well, 'till I gave some actually good ones I try and they really changed my views on mobile games. Obviously, not all of them are good and not shameless add-filled cashgrabs, but, like Steam, you can find some genuinely great games under the manure ridden store page. Really wish people wouldn't overgeneralize all mobile games to be shameless cash cows when there are good quality games.
@@poofinator4952 There _are_ good mobages out there and I play/have played a couple myself, but I have yet to find one that doesn't have microtransactions or use the gacha model, that isn't a console port. Furthermore they are an entirely different kind of game - regular content updates, sometimes decent gameplay but often too dependent on lucky gacha draws to clear the hardest content. Unless you're talking about mobile-exclusive series such as Chaos Rings, which seem to be a rare breed these days.
In any case they often don't have the same kind of narrative, world-building and sense of immersion that a real heavy hitting title will, be it an RPG or more action-orientated. I've learned my lesson about spending money in these types of games because frankly there are much better titles available for less. The worry is that they often cost less than a 'proper' game to develop and maintain, and out of every 100 or even 1000 people that play it, all you need is 1 whale that spends a stupid amount of money and it's instantly profitable.
I enjoy them for what they are, though more than half of the reason I've played them is because I'm already interested in the franchises they represent to begin with (I have no interest in mobile-exclusive new IP). But I don't want the core gaming market to suffer due to their existence - either trying to entice people into playing the latest cashgrab or shamelessly exploiting their old IP for a quick buck. Sadly the risk of that happening is all too real without some form of regulation, especially in Japan where that practice is more widely accepted.
@@Harkz0r I also play a mobage(just started a month ago) and while i enjoy it for what it is,I'm not blind to the fact that it constantly tries to get you spend money:By putting certain characters up on banner,by being stingy with the premium currency,and of course the fact that rolling the gatcha is the only way to get characters in the first place. I don't do it because I don't want to support those kinds of tactics.
Another youtuber who plays the same mobage put out a decent video comparing the typical tactics casinos use to what gatcha games do and it's pretty much 1 for 1.
I'm curious as to what kind of regulations you think mobages should have. I think for starters there should be an age restriction on these kinds of games like casinos have. While an adult is experienced enough and should make decisions for themselves on money,a child can't really do that and they can wind up spending money on the game without their parents consent.
This even happens in console games with MT(like FIFA) The problem is that from what I've seen most parents are largely ignorant of not only mobile games,but games in general and the industry. I think a lot could be done if more people informed parents about their kids hobbies. Of course,this doesn't count for japanese gatcha games.
"Mobile gaming is traditionally associated with a heavily female audience."
Ehrm. What?
Using misogyny to accuse fans of misogyny.
This is no doubt for pay to win lootboxes
kotaku.com/sources-blizzard-pulled-diablo-4-announcement-from-bli-1830232246/amp
@@avatarwarmech Seriously, why are you linking this article on every unrelated comment? This is not how you shill for games journalist. You are doing it wrong Bob.
@@Azerkeux it's not unrelated it's basically explaining that Diablo 4 was pulled from the BlizzCon announcement
@@avatarwarmech what does "Diablo 4 was pulled from the BlizzCon announcement" have to do with "This is no doubt for pay to win lootboxes"?
@@drakan4769 because that's what their initially were going to show at BlizzCon but it was somehow pulled at the last minute
Leave it to "gaming journalists" to use social justice narratives to defend big corporations and their anti-consumer practices. Unbelievable. My cynical side thinks this is an established tactic by some people at this point.
those "gaming journalists" are licking asses for a living
It's pathetic that you bought into that notion tbh. scared of the mean sjws
@@kytele People making ridiculous broad assertions DO encourage impressionable young people to become a-holes. I've been called an sjw by the best trolls in the business, and even I'm finding these journalists tweets bizarre and inhuman.
@@kytele In case you can't read between the lines, I'm suggesting their arguments are insincere. Hence they are probably not "actual" SJWs in the first place, but have merely co-opted their speech patterns to affect opinions.
Really good point, how are they now defending what they were against not so long ago. "We need have more choice we want to play as a hyper gender dildo" and now because fans dare to say "mobile games really?" They are accused of being entitled.
Blizzard is with Activision. What do you guys expect ?
I guess we should have expected that to happen one way or another
Fucking Cucktivision
Blizzard is not the same since WOW Cataclysm, the first shitty product they made, then was followed by the rest of the toilet content.
@@dacdom sorry to dissapoint you bro but wotlk was blizzards first wrong step... classic and tbc was amazing compared to wotlk and cata
Underrated comment.
I don't care too much about blizzard, but even I hate mobile games lol
"I work on mobile esports" OMEGALUL
Theawsomeminersshow imagine saying that and expecting people to take you seriously
@@isellfreemoney9899 Screw other people; imagine saying that and taking yourself seriously!
Never knew that was a thing until i saw it here, hahaha
They've gone from "Know your audience" to "Know how to milk your audience".
"Know your investor"
Mark Kern nailed it. With all this going on, a lot of people forget that the Diablo IP is what made Blizzard as a gaming company and the IP that made a name for themselves. Followed by Warcraft and Starcraft but still would of never been possible without Diablo 1. With Diablo 2 being an amazing game to grow up with and where I did lan parties with my friends, to even the bumpy start of Diablo 3 with the auctionhouse I still had lots of respect for the company. Announcing this mobile game abomination is nothing but a slap in the face the the true hardcore fans that were craving for a new Diablo PC announcement. D2 Remastered of even a D3 DLC would've still been better than this BS cashgrab mobile abomination. Enough ranting for the day, these are just my thoughts and I do hope that they do learn from their PR disaster and will handle this matter the right way as opposed to making it worse like EA did with both Battlefront2 and how they butchered Command & Conquer similarly as they did with Diablo Immortals.
Gaming media is out of control with their SJW nonsense...jeez....
SJW - I do not understand the word/abreviation? please explain?
@@GrompereKichelcher SJW=Social Justice Warrior
You know it's bad if Diablo 2's producer, Mark Kern, expressed his disappointment with Blizzard not understanding on Twitter saying, "Blizzard has lost touch with gamers and is failing to anticipate kind [of] obvious problems before they happen." Blizzard definitely screwed up big time. Calling their consumer-base "...toxic..." is just dumb on a professional level and also from a business perspective. I'm pretty sure that this instance will have pissed off enough Blizzard fans to just not buy anything Blizzard or Activision made.
PC gamers and long time fans wouldn't be so upset if they had a Diablo 1 & 2 Remaster coming. But nothing of that was announced so of course fans will be focusing on how upset people are with the whole fiasco with Diablo Immortal.
Idiots.
Blizzard hasn't lost touch they just going to a more profitable market
Someone is hell gonna buy it and they are huge in numbers even spend more
xxnike629xx I like your profile picture
@@Evokxi
I'll do everything for this guy - game awards 2017 😁
To be fair, Blizzard hasn't issued any such a statement in regards to their fan base being "toxic." You have gaming journalism to thank for that smear.
The media defenders... thats what pisses me off THE MOST out of this sharade... yeah it really sucks that Diablo immortal is mobile ... yeah its alot of salt on the wound that its a chinese rip off... BUT MAN... Them journalist act like absolute scum... like they are even more out of touch than Blizzard is with their Diablo franchise. It just makes me wana spill out even more hate onto that... its so absurd
Imagine if other people acted like this. TV reporter: "This family of 4 died to a truck because it's driver had a heart attack. Stupid idiots, they should have stayed at home instead of driving to see grandparents. And truck would not be on the road if you didn't order a sofa, you woman-hating neonazi."
Well yeah, their livelihood is built on cradling the balls of gaming companies.
@@MrNll004 *bashing right-wing woman-haters for the flop. Remember Last Jedi and Solo?
Like anyone actually listens to these "journalists"
And that's ladies and gentlemen is why gaming-journalism is slowly dying a painful death. You can't trust people and their opinions anymore. The honest guys, the ones that earn next to nothing but love what they are doing, cuz it's what they are, are getting burried under pretenders. I worked in the gaming-journalism-scene for a few years (although technical, not writing) and the trend is clearly visible. Away from honest journalism to money, money, money.
Blizzard hasn't been the good old Blizzard we all knew and loved. That's been clear for years now... Just look at World of Warcraft. R.I.P. Blizzard. Taken from us so brutally by Activision :(
Navad They also ruined Bungie sadly
I remember playing Diablo 1 co-op with my friend back in the old, old days - it was all I wanted to play. I remember immediately buying D2 and its expansion as one of the first purchases of my gaming life when I finally DID get my own PC. I remember buying Diablo 3 - and while it wasn't a patch on my old experiences with previous games (disappointed, but not the worst thing ever), I eventually jumped off the Diablo train due to far better alternatives. And then this debacle happens.
Let's put it like this. Let's say you open a store on the sidewalk making lemonade and build a lemonade loving community of customers who look forward to your refreshments every day. You eventually make enough cash to upgrade to an actual store and a better lemonade product, embrace your community even more along the way - they feel like a part of you, and you them. Along the way, you hint that you have a big surprise in store for all those dedicated lemonade lovers you've had at your back for years and invite them to your even bigger store... and "VOILA, we're selling gravy!" Wait, why are you mad? Don't you have viable food in your house to put gravy on?
Diablo is inherently a PC game and has been for two decades. How a company could not foresee that leaving that dedicated fanbase in the dark for the sake of a shitty mobile port of Not-Diablo-3 and NOTHING else boggles my mind. I guess I'm just another 'entitled' gamer. Safe to say I won't be giving anything towards D:Immortal, but the sad fact is they won't need my money - they'll get plenty anyway, and a pox on the 'old entitled fans' for daring to expect something after following the franchise for so long on the platform they were always on.