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Southpark do A LOT of research into a topic when they cover it. They do it so they can purposely say things wrong to upset the true fans of the series. They know every single thing wrong and they're doing it on purpose. They do it in a way that if you know nothing about the topic it sounds perfectly accurate but if you actually understand it you're like "HEY WAIT!!" Next you're going to make a video on the MTG episode about how they said Trample was Haste. Yeah, they did that on purpose. That's the joke. This entire video concept is just r/woosh
The reazon you can't get the Sword of a Thousand Truths in the game is because the item was swiftly removed and stored in an usb so players wouldn't get access to it... everybody knows that!
the tabard that stan wears is actually a horde only tabard, its from the frostwolf clan iirc, unfortunately you cannot complete this look ingame, but you can come really close.
@atelierbagur3831 if that's true that is awesome but if not the next best thing is the tabard you get from getting exalted with Wrynn's Vanguard (if I'm remembering the rep name) in WoD.
Back in the day when there was no heirloom tab you had to mail them back and forth, I would have my horde toon transmog the tabard on the account bound guild tabard then mail it to my intended toon. So I had a stan toon but my favorite was my worgen with red and gold T7 horde armor.
To be perfectly honest, the South Park episode was much more accurate than the Big Bang Theory episode. Not sure what game they were playing, but it wasn't WoW.
Yea it was more so a WoW-themed game and really just an attention grabber but still neat they did it at all being such a big show and games hardly getting much screen time in anything back then.
@@andreiyesipenko6634 bro really said you they could have got xp from mining and herb back in 2006. Reminds me of them people back in wrath who would say they played van but talk about how they had a mount a level 20 so they can't wait to hit 20 in wrath to get a mount.
enchanting items in ANY version of wow does NOT make it soulbounded. its EXTREMELY common for fiery starter weapons to hit auction house in era for ~200-850g
That is not the same Fiery starter weapons or spellpower starter weapons have base item thats specifically chosen because it cannot become soulbound For example no matter how many times you equip or enchant a skinning knife it will never become soulbound BoE items though do get soulbound to their owner the moment they get enchanted since like middle of vanilla so if you get a green boe cloak and enchant it with agility or whatever it WILL become soulbound to you There were some exploits that allowed you to enchant and trade an item at the same time, and some enchanting consumables letting you enchant a BoE item without it binding to you, but these were consistently patched out
@@Mumohan_ In the trade items window there was a box on the bottom that was not to be traded. You would trade the components and gold before hand, then open a new trade window and put the item you wanted enchanted in the not to be traded window so it would come back to you and it would be soulbound to you and not the enchanter.
@@Mumohan_ Nah even to this day you can enchant a BoE then send it to an alt. Even back in WotLK when they added heirlooms, a common stratergy would be to have the heirloom enchanted with an endgame enchant then send it to your fresh alt so you'd steamroll content. This was how twinking got stupid sweaty in 19 bracket.
@@kylej4929?? He's right. The video creator said Tauren and Trolls can be Hunters on the Horde side. But neglected to mention that Orcs can be hunters too. Yes, in vanilla WoW.
Enchantments don't soulbind the item. Even if it requires enchanting, the enchant is only disabled when equipped by a character without the appropriate skill level. Items soulbind in two ways: automatically upon acquisition, or after being equipped.
Orcs could also be hunters. If the Cloak of the Tiger was a white or gray item, it could be tradable after enchantment, however the name "of the Tiger" typically denotes an item quality above common.
You could eltchant items and they didn't automatically soulbind. Except later ring entchantments. But in Classic all entchantments could be given to items that would still be tradeable afterwards.
There is a staff as well. It was called "Martin Thunder". If you google "Martin Thunder Warcraft" you can easily see it kills everyone in a 30 yard radius. But yes, what was give to a player was a shirt.
@Alolan.Vulpix.Getting.Railed No, what tipped them off was that a guild no one had even heard of before was suddenly getting tons of Ulduar world-firsts and hardmode achievements. None of the stories I can find on this topic even mention BGs. Idk how you can be so confidently wrong about something when you can literally look it up.
I think the creators knew this but not much care. Its all about content and entertainment. I still like it to this day. Such memorable episode that should be respected
One time I was questing in Arathi Highlands, and a level one asked me, "Is this the start zone?" I told him no, and he replied, "But this is the start zone in South Park."
I think you made a good video here but truth be told: the beauty of that episode is how South Park took WoW and did whatever they wanted, and it was awesome. It was the first time us Vanilla players really got to see our game on the big screen/on mainstream television at all. While it obviously wasn’t a perfect and accurate representation of the game, it still brought tens of thousands of new players to WoW and made a lasting impact on the tons of people who will love WoW forever. Somehow this game and this episode both give me some of the most nostalgic feelings I’ve ever had, and I wouldn’t trade either of them for anything else in the world.
Thor from Pirate Software (who formerly worked at Blizzard) told in a stream that Jenkins is based on his father, who worked at Blizzard too. Pretty funny story... and nice video of yours too ofcourse
The comments I've seen so far aren't even very descriptive. A lot of WoW players can be very obsessed but there are also a lot if people on the opposite extreme and are almost so casual to the point where they've barely even played the game.
If I remwbwr correctly. Blizz did change the name of hungering cold/Slayer of the lifeless to Sword of a thousand trutha fir like 2-3 weeks after the episode aired.b
also somehow staniscool having a helmet on at lvl 10 isint possible since the lowest lvl mail helm is i believe is a grey lvl 15 one (pretty sure the engineer goggles are all clothe in classic)
Excellent very informative video! One small thing, we did get an updated version of Slayer of the Lifeless in the Sanctum of Domination raid in Shadowlands, i think it has 4 different tints but LFR has the original tint. I was very happy as I was not a raider at the time xD I loved how you picked everything apart so thoroughly, quality stuff, thank you for the effort you put into your videos!
@@gilneanhuntress9436 Thank you so much! That’s crazy I didn’t know they gave us an update to it in shadowlands, like many players I tapped out for that expansion 🙂. I thought the picture I put up at the end was just a concept so that’s really neat that they did actually updated it! Thank you again, I’m glad you enjoyed!! ^^
Excellent video! This was recommended to me by UA-cam on my home page and it's definitely my kind of content. Thank you for doing what you do. Subscribed!
Will say in Cata, i'd managed to kill a level 85 mob as my level 1 worgen hunter but i had my xp off, and was twinked out to the extreme with movespeed, agility, and a scope for a lot more hit rating (and that was after hunters were changed to autoshot while moving). Was a hellof a lot of kiting but it's one of my favourite WoW achievements. Had also kited the level 90 elite version of Crithto around stormwind for like 30 minutes before messing up and running into a wall.
@Evokai6419 thats why you deleted your comment. its a completely clickbait title. its just cheap and weak if you want an actual channel worth getting anywhere.
@@xkarasu9705 🥱 hi noncontributor, its normal to give a critical analysis of the presentation of a critical analysis. calling something wrong when its literally interpretive art, is just clickbaiting. say something with your chest before telling someone to sit down for speaking objective facts dork.
The reason Jenkins could attack them was a reference to a very early vanilla bug where alliance players found a way to become hated with their own faction.
While this is what I thought too, after seeing the scene again in this video Randy states "That's my son's character in World of Warcraft" so unless Randy is just wrong (which is entirely likely) then we're to think that Stan's characters name is lovestospooge.
this episode actually got me into playing wow. and now 18 years later i'm still subbed and still pushing the endgame content because of my massive fear of missing out. Thank you South Park!
My answer to all of these is that the WoW of southpark is a different version than what we know. South park has Jesus living in South Park, CO, Satan in a relationship with a dead dictator, god is an offshoot yoda monster, and so on. For all we know, orcs never invaded and it all is just conflicts between the human kingdoms.
Wrath pre-patch era will always hold a special place in my heart. My guild and I would use the event calendar to schedule 40-man level 1 raids on Hogger, farm Onyxia and MC, and anything fun. It was a golden age.
I think for your #13 inconsistent character names, if we base it off HCWOW logic which seems to be what the episode is based off of before HC was even a concept, whenever a character dies they lose the character and make a new one, so I’m gonna go on the assumption that since a character died within 24 hours with the same name it couldn’t be used again and thus “Stan is cool” became “Loves to Splooge” probably not a canon reason but it’s the only logical reason I can fathom
"He became so powerful that the developers could no longer comtrol him." That reminds me of myself. I'm no longer a Warhammer character, I'm now a Magic: the Gathering character.
I liked the name reference here with the griefer, "Jenkins" killing his own faction, thats clearly a reference to Leeroy Jenkins and the famous UBRS wipe video which later went on to become a skit in Family Guy. Also, that number Cartman states when telling the boys how many boars it would take is also a really bad nerd joke as that is the longest integer a 32 bit system can store, which is what everyone used at the time. As an interesting side note, on the Cataclysm beta realms it was indeed possible to kill your own faction the way Jenkins did here by joining a same faction BG and leaving it as a ghost with the opposite factions debuff still on you, this made you an enemy to your own faction which then began to spread like a disease even amongst NPC's, turning cities into battlegrounds. I recorded footage of this while I was on one of those servers, search on here for: Cataclysm Varian Rolls Horde and it should come up.
i remember as a blood dk, duelling a frost dk and we must of been fighting for like 35mins or something cos neither one of us would quit. but in the end we settled for a draw
you forgot some inconsistencies, like when we see Cartman's pov and he has a rogue interface when he should obviously play a warrior or paladin. My theory on Jenkins is that he is a hacker or game dev of WoW, it would explain a lot of things like being able to kill players from his own faction and not being banned because he would have access to the database and be able to import his character back, removing himself from the banned list, editing his level, spells... Maybe the scorpid invocation is a supposedly unobtainable trinket, like that sword at the end, by the way Randy wouldn't have been able to give it to Stan since he equipped it and such item would probably be linked once equipped.
On the plus side, The Sword of 1000 Truths appears in Hearthstone. You summon bores on the field and kill them. After you manage to kill I believe about 17 on your own. You earn the Sword. Using it on the opposing Hero will destroy all their Mana Crystals.
I never really cared about the accuracy of the depiction. Ffs they're waddling around the same span of Elwynn Forest the majority of the time, and somehow end up outside Stromgarde Keep. My dude summoned Scorpions, wore Plate and Mail, and was casting Mage abilities. It was a meme, and I loved it lmao.
Fun Fact: Blizzard originally didn't intend for the game to have many quests, they wanted to make it more of a mob grinding mmo. For some reason, they flipped on that stance and decided the game needed to have a lot more quests.
So, first, some of these points are actually incorrect: #15 - Kenny is NOT a Human Hunter. If you look at his monitor, it's clear he is a Human ROGUE. He's failing at it slightly, granted, given him using a bow, but he is not a hunter. #14 - This is mostly true, except we don't actually know their level. We're just judging based on their current gear. #13 - Name changes were possible in Vanilla. However, the more damning part is Stan's level/gear combination. #9 - This isn't something they got wrong - it's just that they did not include the Horde. #7 - So... how did they get this wrong? #6 - Despite there never being an agility enchant past +3 in Vanilla? #4 - Did they say that Ike was playing a new character? #3 - So... again... how did they get this wrong? #1 - So, this was not a weapon, it was a shirt, and the player didn't go into PvP, they went into raids and was ultimately banned. Secondly, you literally stole this list from Warcraft Wiki lol. AND DEAR LORD, IT IS NOT WOW CLASSIC FOR THIS EPISODE. God, that annoyed me more than it should have.
I was under the impression that the player killing the boys was a hacker, like a really genius hacker. That's why he was able to do the things he did, and why the GMs couldn't stop him.
Back in vanilla I frequently ended up in 12~14 hour Alterac Valley matches. Yeah, the Sword of a Thousand Truths was indeed broken - look at how fast Viper Sting got nerfed.
Many already said that Enchanting does not make Items Soulbound and this is True. However what Cartman was referring to was the Item suffix aka Random Enchant the Item has. In this Case "...of the Tiger" which gives the Item Agility and Strength
Doesnt mention how level 2 (stan's dad) hunter is in a warrior starting gear? He probably created a warrior. At the time of the episode gathering did not grant any exp, as it was added in Cata. 9:55 You cant duel in Orgrimmar, everyone knows you battle front of orgri/SW? There is no +15 agi cloak enchant anyway, and you could have traded some items with enchants anyway, like skinning knife/mining pickaxe. Jenkins is not a mage, jenkins is a cheater, I too used to cheat on one private server and I had spellbook bigger than encyclopedia. Did you copy the wowpedia post and left some out?: Many battles were taken place in mid/high level zones such as Arathi Highlands, however many characters who were in level 1 gear were roaming these areas and killing the monsters; which, ingame, would be harrowing as your aggro radius would be huge. Kenny and Randy were human hunters, though the hunter class was not available to humans at the time, nor had the Cataclysm expansion been announced. Hunters are unable to equip a shield. In Randy's case, he is equipped with the starting warrior gear, which may indicate that Randy's class may have actually been warrior and he only described himself as a "hunter". Kenny may similarly have been a warrior or a rogue, as those classes can also use bow weapons. Randy's Bar UI also displays a warrior stance bar, further implying that he is a warrior. Though he plays a human, Stan's character wears the [Frostwolf Battle Tabard]. No one, not even Jenkins, can summon four scorpions (though the spell in question is reminiscent of Warcraft I). However, if you allow for the fact that Jenkins had become so powerful that even Game Masters couldn't stop him, anything's possible. Despite most likely being a mage (due to his use of Fireball and Arcane Explosion), Jenkins wears a helmet which appears to be either plate or mail, normally unwearable for a mage (although it is stated that he achieved a never-before-seen level, thus probably gaining the ability to wear such a helmet). Is not possible for Alliance players to kill other Alliance players outside of the four arenas where Player vs All is allowed. This is a major plot point of the episode, as Jenkins is stated to be such a high level that he can "ignore the game's rules" and thus kill indiscriminately. It is said Jenkins has more levels than any other player or the GMs, but in World of Warcraft, the level is capped. In the starting area of Elwynn Forest, the low level mobs are wolves and not boars. However, boars are present in the forested area south of Goldshire, which is where the party appeared to have been grinding. No matter how many low level mobs you kill, you cannot level only by killing those; once a mob turns grey (between 10 and 20 levels lower than you, depending on your level), it is no longer worth any experience. A Game Master can kill any player character or simply ban them; Jenkins should not have caused much problem. Butter's character was supposedly recently created when appeared, but wore mid-level equipment and not the starting gear. All characters in the episode were Alliance characters. No mention of the Horde is made. Butters remarks that there are "only four races to choose from" in the game (at the time of the episode's airing, there were 4 Alliance races). The world map present in Cartman's basement when he is giving the briefing to his large party is only a map of the Eastern Kingdoms, and all scenes in-game are depicted in Eastern Kingdoms zones (Elwynn Forest and Arathi Highlands). No mention of Kalimdor is made. The final battle in the episode is depicted to have lasted over 17 hours. Most boss fights in World of Warcraft have enrage timers to shorten the length of various fights. However, PvP fights (of which the final battle would have been classified) don't have such timers, and could, in theory, last such a long time (although no PvP fight lasts so long in practice). Cartman mentions before the battle that Kyle should give a cloak to Kenny that has a +15 agility enchantment on it. Enchantments on items automatically make an item soulbound and therefore cannot be traded. Near the begining of the episode Kyle can be heard saying "Come on, we have to finish the quest in Stonehaven." No such place exists in game.
That's what I just commented too, well somethin not quite as big as yours - but I notated that South Park and Blizzard Collabed on the episode together, it was even blizzards idea, Chris Metzen gave them friends and family Alpha Access to the BC servers and created some of the random spells, the sword, the instant mana burn etc, just like cheating on private servers, and "GM'Esque" stuff Jenkins to be the whole "He who has no life cannot be killed" And even then ---- most of the actual characters themselves besides the main "crew" and Jenkins were added in Post Production and Maya Studio
Adding on to the fact, Back in 2005 when Alterac Valley came in, one of the first ones ever because people didn't know what to do I think lasted 20 hours or so lol
@@melwinder1 I remember leaving AV to go to school/ getting bored with it because it lasted too long or whatever and coming back hours later only to join the same AV, like dude srsly?
With Enchant it is not meant to be the one an Enchanter does. But the Random Item suffix you get on most Green random drop Gear. In this case it is "...of the Tiger" which gives Agility and Strength
@@retroprogamer7009 I was thinking about it too, but as u pointed out its enchantment would be then +15 agi AND strength, since it is 'of the tiger'. And in the episode he says it is +15 agi, no mention of strength. Also the suffixes are fixed so there is no point of asking what the 'cloak of the tiger' stats give, unless you are a newb and dont know it yet.
The whole Kenny as a human hunter thing was so annoying.. Not just cos they made him human, but cos they said he was a hunter.. with a visible shield!! which all us wow nerds know, hunters dont use shields! lol... That urked me for ages.. lol Edit: Not sure why i wrote Kenny as the Hunter.. when i think it was Randy?.. I havent seen it in years, or South Park for that matter.. Either way. the point was He claimed to be a hunter while holding a shield.. lol
coming from somebody who has been playing WoW since cata, I think they got a lot of it pretty spot on. Especially when Cartman is about to die and screams while slowly running away, "NO! I don't want to have to start over at the graveyard!"
This was based on, and took place during, WoW vanilla (not the classic remake). Pretty good video. Though, herbs and mining nodes did not give exp back then. Fun fact: The Sword of a Thousand Truths is obtainable in Hearthstone!
I was a Holy Pally that had an equally awesome duel with a Blood DK during WotLK and it is definitely a core memory for me with the game. We had an audience of two though, not a full circle haha.
"Stonehaven" was a town name in a very early, perhaps pre-Alpha build which showed a proof-of-concept World of Warcraft with a human character in said town. There are screenshots of how that early build looked like, and how radically different the UI was back then. It never came out, not even in the Alpha only Blizzard and those invited by them tested back in the end of 2003.
Another reason getting to arathi at level one is impossible, discovery XP. From one to two is so short I doubt they could make it there and still be level one. Nobody in their group was a warlock and definitely not high enough level to summon them there.
I knew Jenkins was a mage but for some reason I thought his bubble spell was foreshadowing the druid moon skill. xD After watching this video I remembered that the mages also had this, which I have used a lot in PvP. And in a way I can believe at least an hour of battle 1v1. In lich king capture the flag I was a feral druid that can heal on crits build Vs a tank paladin and we fought for at least 20 min. It was obvious no one can win cause both of us healed too much. Had to abandone the zone with the horde flag in hand when 2 more players decided to show up. If we were allowed to finish the 1v1 fight, it would have probably taken an hour at least.
If I'm not mistaken, the Jenkins character's out-of-game player is actually based on a real life dev of WoW with reportedly an obvious resemblances w/ South Park changing his look a bit to look more like the "basement-dweller" versions of the kids you mentioned. Given this background lore, even though we're never told this as the audience, it could make sense both how Jenkins could break the rules as he did to become so powerful & why the GMs couldn't handle taking down & banning Jenkins, b/c he was an inside-man as a fellow dev/GM to the game, especially if Jenkins was a lead dev and part of the team in charge. Of course again, none of this is explicitly stated in the episode, but given the irl inspiration for the character it is an interesting theory to help plug some of these plot holes/mistakes.
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Southpark do A LOT of research into a topic when they cover it. They do it so they can purposely say things wrong to upset the true fans of the series. They know every single thing wrong and they're doing it on purpose. They do it in a way that if you know nothing about the topic it sounds perfectly accurate but if you actually understand it you're like "HEY WAIT!!" Next you're going to make a video on the MTG episode about how they said Trample was Haste. Yeah, they did that on purpose. That's the joke.
This entire video concept is just r/woosh
This is the most "Umm actually!" forum post video I've ever seen.
This is the most "Umm actually!" forum post video I've ever seen.
With so many inconsistencies too, probably a retail player.
The entire episode is meant to poke fun at people correcting them. They did everything in a few that’s very familiar to wow players but just a bit off
Dude so true
Seriously, this guy is a turd
The reazon you can't get the Sword of a Thousand Truths in the game is because the item was swiftly removed and stored in an usb so players wouldn't get access to it... everybody knows that!
Its called slayer of the lifeless from gothik
@@plummet3860 you know what joke is right
gaining xp from mining and herbing wasn't a thing until cata
the tabard that stan wears is actually a horde only tabard, its from the frostwolf clan iirc, unfortunately you cannot complete this look ingame, but you can come really close.
I believe you can now transmog it for Alliance if you have a Horde character earn the tabard and added into your collection
@atelierbagur3831 if that's true that is awesome but if not the next best thing is the tabard you get from getting exalted with Wrynn's Vanguard (if I'm remembering the rep name) in WoD.
i did not notice that until now lol
@@atelierbagur3831 Nope you get the Alliance counterpart in the best case.
Back in the day when there was no heirloom tab you had to mail them back and forth, I would have my horde toon transmog the tabard on the account bound guild tabard then mail it to my intended toon. So I had a stan toon but my favorite was my worgen with red and gold T7 horde armor.
Enchanting gear in vanilla didn't make it soulbound. We place enchanted BoEs on the AH for sale all the time
To be perfectly honest, the South Park episode was much more accurate than the Big Bang Theory episode. Not sure what game they were playing, but it wasn't WoW.
Yea it was more so a WoW-themed game and really just an attention grabber but still neat they did it at all being such a big show and games hardly getting much screen time in anything back then.
If you are talking about the episode where Penny gets addicted after losing her job, the game was Conan, which didn't last very long.
@@MaxSterling01No, there's also a few episodes featuring WoW. And they manage to get most stuff wrong.
@@MaxSterling01You mean Conan exiles??
@@zommy_artzz In BBT they were playing Age of Conan.
unless youre on a pvp realm.. then anyone can attack anyone
Summon Scorpions was actually a Conjurer spell in WC1, WC2 didn't have any summoning spells apart from Eye of Kilrogg
I'm looking for this comment. Author of this video is not competent.
@@andreiyesipenko6634 bro really said you they could have got xp from mining and herb back in 2006. Reminds me of them people back in wrath who would say they played van but talk about how they had a mount a level 20 so they can't wait to hit 20 in wrath to get a mount.
enchanting items in ANY version of wow does NOT make it soulbounded. its EXTREMELY common for fiery starter weapons to hit auction house in era for ~200-850g
That is not the same
Fiery starter weapons or spellpower starter weapons have base item thats specifically chosen because it cannot become soulbound
For example no matter how many times you equip or enchant a skinning knife it will never become soulbound
BoE items though do get soulbound to their owner the moment they get enchanted since like middle of vanilla
so if you get a green boe cloak and enchant it with agility or whatever it WILL become soulbound to you
There were some exploits that allowed you to enchant and trade an item at the same time, and some enchanting consumables letting you enchant a BoE item without it binding to you, but these were consistently patched out
But if its not a boe, i.e a grey item you can chant it and trade it...
@@Mumohan_ In the trade items window there was a box on the bottom that was not to be traded. You would trade the components and gold before hand, then open a new trade window and put the item you wanted enchanted in the not to be traded window so it would come back to you and it would be soulbound to you and not the enchanter.
@@Mumohan_ Nah even to this day you can enchant a BoE then send it to an alt. Even back in WotLK when they added heirlooms, a common stratergy would be to have the heirloom enchanted with an endgame enchant then send it to your fresh alt so you'd steamroll content. This was how twinking got stupid sweaty in 19 bracket.
The sword or 1000 truths is in hearthstone. You have to have 7 ellyan boars die to get it
You can carry it in wow too, Slayer of the lifeless or the hungering cold
lol hearthstone
You messed up, orcs can be hunters in vanilla, also the episode would have been better if the one killing all of them was an undead rogue
Did I kill you in pvp or something??? They are talking about Original Vanilla WoW.
@@kylej4929 what? I'm talking about original vanilla.
This. But the video was good. Proud of creator.
@@kylej4929?? He's right. The video creator said Tauren and Trolls can be Hunters on the Horde side. But neglected to mention that Orcs can be hunters too. Yes, in vanilla WoW.
IMO having The Griefer be alliance better sells the idea that he is breaking the game into something effectively defunct and unplayable.
actually in classic wow you CAN enchant items and they do not become soulbound.
Enchantments don't soulbind the item. Even if it requires enchanting, the enchant is only disabled when equipped by a character without the appropriate skill level. Items soulbind in two ways: automatically upon acquisition, or after being equipped.
They worked directly with Blizzard when making this episode. Its not so much “mistakes” as “creative liberties” 😅
Orcs could also be hunters. If the Cloak of the Tiger was a white or gray item, it could be tradable after enchantment, however the name "of the Tiger" typically denotes an item quality above common.
You could eltchant items and they didn't automatically soulbind. Except later ring entchantments. But in Classic all entchantments could be given to items that would still be tradeable afterwards.
Hence all the chanted gear in the AH .
@@PT19922
Classic isn't Vanilla...
The human "hunters" are warriors or pallys in game. Lol
The item that killed all players within 30 yards wasn't a weapon, it was a shirt, called Martin Fury.
And it wasn't used in pvp. It was abused in Ulduar to get world firsts
There is a staff as well. It was called "Martin Thunder". If you google "Martin Thunder Warcraft" you can easily see it kills everyone in a 30 yard radius. But yes, what was give to a player was a shirt.
@@WitherDJUh no, it WAS used in PVP to clear a bg, and thats what tipped the mods off and ultimately got the user banned.
there is also a mace and a few other items with basically the same effect
@Alolan.Vulpix.Getting.Railed No, what tipped them off was that a guild no one had even heard of before was suddenly getting tons of Ulduar world-firsts and hardmode achievements. None of the stories I can find on this topic even mention BGs.
Idk how you can be so confidently wrong about something when you can literally look it up.
“Wdym? We finally get to play the game” I finally get it after playing throne and liberty 😭
I think the creators knew this but not much care. Its all about content and entertainment. I still like it to this day. Such memorable episode that should be respected
One extra discrepancy: Stan’s player outfit wears the Frostwolf Battle Tabard, a Horde only level 51 tabard.
One time I was questing in Arathi Highlands, and a level one asked me, "Is this the start zone?" I told him no, and he replied, "But this is the start zone in South Park."
@@waderoberts3701 That’s hilarious 😆
Alright, ima be that guy...but there's no way a noob level 1 made it to Arathi Highlands, Alliance or Horde.
@@bvbxiong5791 quite literally impossible as they would level a couple times from exploration.
why you lieing bro
@@Alolan.Vulpix.Getting.Railed It happened. I'm sure he was joking, but it happened.
Randy was a warrior, not a hunter.
I think you made a good video here but truth be told: the beauty of that episode is how South Park took WoW and did whatever they wanted, and it was awesome. It was the first time us Vanilla players really got to see our game on the big screen/on mainstream television at all. While it obviously wasn’t a perfect and accurate representation of the game, it still brought tens of thousands of new players to WoW and made a lasting impact on the tons of people who will love WoW forever. Somehow this game and this episode both give me some of the most nostalgic feelings I’ve ever had, and I wouldn’t trade either of them for anything else in the world.
This is probably #1 for videos that did not need to be made.
I agree. However, unfortunately now people are commenting so giving this fool raitings
Thor from Pirate Software (who formerly worked at Blizzard) told in a stream that Jenkins is based on his father, who worked at Blizzard too. Pretty funny story... and nice video of yours too ofcourse
Apparently, it is possible to level from 1-60 killing boars in WoW Classic, but you'll have to travel quite far to do it and kill over 10000 boars.
7:12 he says this
Settling back to read hundreds of: "Well, ACTUALLY sir... _snorts... pushes up nerd glasses to type wall of text about obscure WoW lore_ ... "
Settling back to wait for the one guy to point out the nerds in the comments 🤓
The comments I've seen so far aren't even very descriptive. A lot of WoW players can be very obsessed but there are also a lot if people on the opposite extreme and are almost so casual to the point where they've barely even played the game.
If I remwbwr correctly. Blizz did change the name of hungering cold/Slayer of the lifeless to Sword of a thousand trutha fir like 2-3 weeks after the episode aired.b
They got nothing wrong because WoW devs were in on the episode 😂
Randy says his character is a hunter, but his character on screen is clearly a warrior.
Great video! South Parks response to all these: "Because it's funny!"
Just when I think there's no original video ideas left, you pull out this list. Bravo!
@@TheDanishGuyReviews Thank you DanishGuy! 🙂
Except he just read what is on the WoWPedia, and didn't take any time to research how the episode was even made in the first place....
It seems more likely that Randy is playing a warrior and just thinks he's a hunter for some reason because he's Randy.
also somehow staniscool having a helmet on at lvl 10 isint possible since the lowest lvl mail helm is i believe is a grey lvl 15 one (pretty sure the engineer goggles are all clothe in classic)
Beyond just their gear not being available at level 10, Stan is also wearing a Frostwolf tabard, which is impossible for Alliance characters to wear
So, there is no Level 15 Mail Helm of any quality. That is the mail shoulders, Laced Mail Shoulders. The grey helmet is level 25.
Stans battlenet id could be lovestoospuge. And randy just got it wrong. You can also have more then one character
Sword of a thousand truths is available in Turtle WoW for those brave enough to complete the Slow and Steady challenge mode.
What are the challenge requirements?
@@TomZufps 0.5 exp rate from killing mobs and if you die you lose 5% of experience.
Sword is only a vanity item, meant to be a transmog.
@@CharlieWinterTV once again, turtle wow shows it's superiority
Excellent very informative video! One small thing, we did get an updated version of Slayer of the Lifeless in the Sanctum of Domination raid in Shadowlands, i think it has 4 different tints but LFR has the original tint. I was very happy as I was not a raider at the time xD I loved how you picked everything apart so thoroughly, quality stuff, thank you for the effort you put into your videos!
@@gilneanhuntress9436 Thank you so much! That’s crazy I didn’t know they gave us an update to it in shadowlands, like many players I tapped out for that expansion 🙂. I thought the picture I put up at the end was just a concept so that’s really neat that they did actually updated it! Thank you again, I’m glad you enjoyed!! ^^
I'm glad someone else said this because I was like "WE DID!" To my screen and then he even plastered the picture of it and I was so confused hah xD
I think it's kinda funny you make a video about things southpark got wrong while simultaneously getting things wrong lmao
can confirm you can kill just boars from to go from 1-60 you can't just stay in 1 zones
Excellent video!
This was recommended to me by UA-cam on my home page and it's definitely my kind of content.
Thank you for doing what you do.
Subscribed!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed! 🙂
Enchants didn’t make items soulbound in classic.
i was a south park fan first. this episode got me into world of warcraft!
Whats funny is later on. Blizz made a counterpart to the Sword of a Thousand Truths, its called "Heaven's Fall, Kryss of a Thousand Lies"
Will say in Cata, i'd managed to kill a level 85 mob as my level 1 worgen hunter but i had my xp off, and was twinked out to the extreme with movespeed, agility, and a scope for a lot more hit rating (and that was after hunters were changed to autoshot while moving).
Was a hellof a lot of kiting but it's one of my favourite WoW achievements. Had also kited the level 90 elite version of Crithto around stormwind for like 30 minutes before messing up and running into a wall.
"got wrong" is a weird way to say "took personal liberties"....
@Evokai6419 thats why you deleted your comment.
its a completely clickbait title. its just cheap and weak if you want an actual channel worth getting anywhere.
@@yungvino9379 imagine fighting in youtube comments over pointless stuff like this
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@@xkarasu9705 🥱 hi noncontributor, its normal to give a critical analysis of the presentation of a critical analysis. calling something wrong when its literally interpretive art, is just clickbaiting. say something with your chest before telling someone to sit down for speaking objective facts dork.
@@thegrayboxzero imagine joining the apparently pointless fight. i stated a fact, the rest of you want to argue like no-life goofballs. jfc.
The reason Jenkins could attack them was a reference to a very early vanilla bug where alliance players found a way to become hated with their own faction.
4:12 i think maybe loves2spooge is probably stans account name since the devs probably have access to that, but maybe just an oversight
Battlenet id
@@9and12wholepizzas did that exist in vanilla wow?
While this is what I thought too, after seeing the scene again in this video Randy states "That's my son's character in World of Warcraft" so unless Randy is just wrong (which is entirely likely) then we're to think that Stan's characters name is lovestospooge.
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Not in the same way it does today, no.
My youtube crashed after Jenkins cast that purple spell. Hes so powerful he can crash my youtube with a spell 💀
This was a simple and fun video.
Honestly Southpark should, with blizzard, make another warcrsft video.
enchants do not make items soulbound
Don't think these were mistakes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they had a team from blizzard working with them.
My brother dueled a ret paladin as a holy paladin in cata, that lasted like 2 hours, holy for the win in the end though
What about the frostwolf tabard on Stan's character as an alliance player? That was horde only.
this episode actually got me into playing wow. and now 18 years later i'm still subbed and still pushing the endgame content because of my massive fear of missing out. Thank you South Park!
My answer to all of these is that the WoW of southpark is a different version than what we know. South park has Jesus living in South Park, CO, Satan in a relationship with a dead dictator, god is an offshoot yoda monster, and so on. For all we know, orcs never invaded and it all is just conflicts between the human kingdoms.
this episode is perfection and got nothing wrong, you're wrong Mellojoseph
Wrath pre-patch era will always hold a special place in my heart. My guild and I would use the event calendar to schedule 40-man level 1 raids on Hogger, farm Onyxia and MC, and anything fun. It was a golden age.
I think for your #13 inconsistent character names, if we base it off HCWOW logic which seems to be what the episode is based off of before HC was even a concept, whenever a character dies they lose the character and make a new one, so I’m gonna go on the assumption that since a character died within 24 hours with the same name it couldn’t be used again and thus “Stan is cool” became “Loves to Splooge” probably not a canon reason but it’s the only logical reason I can fathom
My longest duel was also my death knight against a paladin. I gave up after 55 minutes.
Dude, back in Wrath I had an amazing PvP fight with a ret paladin on my blood death knight. Lasted the whole battle and it felt amazing!
"He became so powerful that the developers could no longer comtrol him."
That reminds me of myself. I'm no longer a Warhammer character, I'm now a Magic: the Gathering character.
I liked the name reference here with the griefer, "Jenkins" killing his own faction, thats clearly a reference to Leeroy Jenkins and the famous UBRS wipe video which later went on to become a skit in Family Guy.
Also, that number Cartman states when telling the boys how many boars it would take is also a really bad nerd joke as that is the longest integer a 32 bit system can store, which is what everyone used at the time.
As an interesting side note, on the Cataclysm beta realms it was indeed possible to kill your own faction the way Jenkins did here by joining a same faction BG and leaving it as a ghost with the opposite factions debuff still on you, this made you an enemy to your own faction which then began to spread like a disease even amongst NPC's, turning cities into battlegrounds.
I recorded footage of this while I was on one of those servers, search on here for: Cataclysm Varian Rolls Horde and it should come up.
i remember as a blood dk, duelling a frost dk and we must of been fighting for like 35mins or something cos neither one of us would quit. but in the end we settled for a draw
There is actually another refference to the sword of a thousand truths i believe.
The lichking drops "Heaven's Fall, Kryss of a Thousand Lies"
you forgot some inconsistencies, like when we see Cartman's pov and he has a rogue interface when he should obviously play a warrior or paladin.
My theory on Jenkins is that he is a hacker or game dev of WoW, it would explain a lot of things like being able to kill players from his own faction and not being banned because he would have access to the database and be able to import his character back, removing himself from the banned list, editing his level, spells...
Maybe the scorpid invocation is a supposedly unobtainable trinket, like that sword at the end, by the way Randy wouldn't have been able to give it to Stan since he equipped it and such item would probably be linked once equipped.
I think it's funnt to imagine he grinded the game so much that hus character became too powerful even for GMs lol
On the plus side, The Sword of 1000 Truths appears in Hearthstone.
You summon bores on the field and kill them. After you manage to kill I believe about 17 on your own. You earn the Sword.
Using it on the opposing Hero will destroy all their Mana Crystals.
Keep up the vids my friend!
@@NarutoArenaCx thank you 🙂!
I never really cared about the accuracy of the depiction. Ffs they're waddling around the same span of Elwynn Forest the majority of the time, and somehow end up outside Stromgarde Keep. My dude summoned Scorpions, wore Plate and Mail, and was casting Mage abilities. It was a meme, and I loved it lmao.
Fun Fact: Blizzard originally didn't intend for the game to have many quests, they wanted to make it more of a mob grinding mmo. For some reason, they flipped on that stance and decided the game needed to have a lot more quests.
I'm fine with the inaccuracies. It's obvious Matt and Trey played the game and took some liberties just for comedy or brevity.
"Everything South Park Got WRONG In Make Love Not Warcraft"
Nothing. The episode is perfect and Iconic.
So, first, some of these points are actually incorrect:
#15 - Kenny is NOT a Human Hunter. If you look at his monitor, it's clear he is a Human ROGUE. He's failing at it slightly, granted, given him using a bow, but he is not a hunter.
#14 - This is mostly true, except we don't actually know their level. We're just judging based on their current gear.
#13 - Name changes were possible in Vanilla. However, the more damning part is Stan's level/gear combination.
#9 - This isn't something they got wrong - it's just that they did not include the Horde.
#7 - So... how did they get this wrong?
#6 - Despite there never being an agility enchant past +3 in Vanilla?
#4 - Did they say that Ike was playing a new character?
#3 - So... again... how did they get this wrong?
#1 - So, this was not a weapon, it was a shirt, and the player didn't go into PvP, they went into raids and was ultimately banned.
Secondly, you literally stole this list from Warcraft Wiki lol.
AND DEAR LORD, IT IS NOT WOW CLASSIC FOR THIS EPISODE. God, that annoyed me more than it should have.
I was under the impression that the player killing the boys was a hacker, like a really genius hacker. That's why he was able to do the things he did, and why the GMs couldn't stop him.
Back in vanilla I frequently ended up in 12~14 hour Alterac Valley matches.
Yeah, the Sword of a Thousand Truths was indeed broken - look at how fast Viper Sting got nerfed.
Many already said that Enchanting does not make Items Soulbound and this is True. However what Cartman was referring to was the Item suffix aka Random Enchant the Item has. In this Case "...of the Tiger" which gives the Item Agility and Strength
You know how crazy I looked yelling the things that were wrong to my friends. 😂
They didn’t get stuff wrong they purposely did all of that stuff because South Park
So they got it wrong on purpose.
I have very distinct memories of South Park, 2 of which being the WoW episode (my favorite) and the obama and mitt romney episode
This south park episode is literally what made me want to try WoW. I played for many years and met my gf 9 years ago in Draenor's Nagrand. Insane.
Doesnt mention how level 2 (stan's dad) hunter is in a warrior starting gear? He probably created a warrior. At the time of the episode gathering did not grant any exp, as it was added in Cata. 9:55 You cant duel in Orgrimmar, everyone knows you battle front of orgri/SW? There is no +15 agi cloak enchant anyway, and you could have traded some items with enchants anyway, like skinning knife/mining pickaxe. Jenkins is not a mage, jenkins is a cheater, I too used to cheat on one private server and I had spellbook bigger than encyclopedia. Did you copy the wowpedia post and left some out?:
Many battles were taken place in mid/high level zones such as Arathi Highlands, however many characters who were in level 1 gear were roaming these areas and killing the monsters; which, ingame, would be harrowing as your aggro radius would be huge.
Kenny and Randy were human hunters, though the hunter class was not available to humans at the time, nor had the Cataclysm expansion been announced.
Hunters are unable to equip a shield. In Randy's case, he is equipped with the starting warrior gear, which may indicate that Randy's class may have actually been warrior and he only described himself as a "hunter". Kenny may similarly have been a warrior or a rogue, as those classes can also use bow weapons. Randy's Bar UI also displays a warrior stance bar, further implying that he is a warrior.
Though he plays a human, Stan's character wears the [Frostwolf Battle Tabard].
No one, not even Jenkins, can summon four scorpions (though the spell in question is reminiscent of Warcraft I). However, if you allow for the fact that Jenkins had become so powerful that even Game Masters couldn't stop him, anything's possible.
Despite most likely being a mage (due to his use of Fireball and Arcane Explosion), Jenkins wears a helmet which appears to be either plate or mail, normally unwearable for a mage (although it is stated that he achieved a never-before-seen level, thus probably gaining the ability to wear such a helmet).
Is not possible for Alliance players to kill other Alliance players outside of the four arenas where Player vs All is allowed. This is a major plot point of the episode, as Jenkins is stated to be such a high level that he can "ignore the game's rules" and thus kill indiscriminately.
It is said Jenkins has more levels than any other player or the GMs, but in World of Warcraft, the level is capped.
In the starting area of Elwynn Forest, the low level mobs are wolves and not boars. However, boars are present in the forested area south of Goldshire, which is where the party appeared to have been grinding.
No matter how many low level mobs you kill, you cannot level only by killing those; once a mob turns grey (between 10 and 20 levels lower than you, depending on your level), it is no longer worth any experience.
A Game Master can kill any player character or simply ban them; Jenkins should not have caused much problem.
Butter's character was supposedly recently created when appeared, but wore mid-level equipment and not the starting gear.
All characters in the episode were Alliance characters. No mention of the Horde is made. Butters remarks that there are "only four races to choose from" in the game (at the time of the episode's airing, there were 4 Alliance races).
The world map present in Cartman's basement when he is giving the briefing to his large party is only a map of the Eastern Kingdoms, and all scenes in-game are depicted in Eastern Kingdoms zones (Elwynn Forest and Arathi Highlands). No mention of Kalimdor is made.
The final battle in the episode is depicted to have lasted over 17 hours. Most boss fights in World of Warcraft have enrage timers to shorten the length of various fights. However, PvP fights (of which the final battle would have been classified) don't have such timers, and could, in theory, last such a long time (although no PvP fight lasts so long in practice).
Cartman mentions before the battle that Kyle should give a cloak to Kenny that has a +15 agility enchantment on it. Enchantments on items automatically make an item soulbound and therefore cannot be traded.
Near the begining of the episode Kyle can be heard saying "Come on, we have to finish the quest in Stonehaven." No such place exists in game.
That's what I just commented too, well somethin not quite as big as yours - but I notated that South Park and Blizzard Collabed on the episode together, it was even blizzards idea, Chris Metzen gave them friends and family Alpha Access to the BC servers and created some of the random spells, the sword, the instant mana burn etc, just like cheating on private servers, and "GM'Esque" stuff Jenkins to be the whole "He who has no life cannot be killed"
And even then ---- most of the actual characters themselves besides the main "crew" and Jenkins were added in Post Production and Maya Studio
Adding on to the fact, Back in 2005 when Alterac Valley came in, one of the first ones ever because people didn't know what to do I think lasted 20 hours or so lol
@@melwinder1 I remember leaving AV to go to school/ getting bored with it because it lasted too long or whatever and coming back hours later only to join the same AV, like dude srsly?
With Enchant it is not meant to be the one an Enchanter does. But the Random Item suffix you get on most Green random drop Gear. In this case it is "...of the Tiger" which gives Agility and Strength
@@retroprogamer7009 I was thinking about it too, but as u pointed out its enchantment would be then +15 agi AND strength, since it is 'of the tiger'. And in the episode he says it is +15 agi, no mention of strength. Also the suffixes are fixed so there is no point of asking what the 'cloak of the tiger' stats give, unless you are a newb and dont know it yet.
there was nothing wrong with that episode. if one wants real facts or situation , go watch a documentary.
Orcs on horde were also hunters in classic
I still can't believe this episode foresaw the 2023 game Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
The whole Kenny as a human hunter thing was so annoying.. Not just cos they made him human, but cos they said he was a hunter.. with a visible shield!! which all us wow nerds know, hunters dont use shields! lol... That urked me for ages.. lol
Edit: Not sure why i wrote Kenny as the Hunter.. when i think it was Randy?.. I havent seen it in years, or South Park for that matter.. Either way. the point was He claimed to be a hunter while holding a shield.. lol
Shields are a hunter weapon.
hahaha, they sure are =P
they did at one time in alpha with bucklers and rogues can use them also but was removed and put into the shield class
Everything is hunter gear. Everything.
That rare wand that just dropped that has stats clearly made for a warlock? Obviously a hunter weapon.
coming from somebody who has been playing WoW since cata, I think they got a lot of it pretty spot on. Especially when Cartman is about to die and screams while slowly running away, "NO! I don't want to have to start over at the graveyard!"
This was based on, and took place during, WoW vanilla (not the classic remake). Pretty good video. Though, herbs and mining nodes did not give exp back then. Fun fact: The Sword of a Thousand Truths is obtainable in Hearthstone!
werent orcs able to be hunters too?
I dueled a druid tree form as a prot pally back in WotLK, we dueled for over an hour and he gave up.
I was a Holy Pally that had an equally awesome duel with a Blood DK during WotLK and it is definitely a core memory for me with the game. We had an audience of two though, not a full circle haha.
In the german version stan's name is called "We are looking for a mighty knight who's name is crustcheese"
I think the most important inaccuracy is that they're killing boars in northshire when it should be wolves.
1:58 he also had rogue abilities on his bars and stealth
Jfc homie those pop sound effects nearly blew my ear drums put.
"Stonehaven" was a town name in a very early, perhaps pre-Alpha build which showed a proof-of-concept World of Warcraft with a human character in said town. There are screenshots of how that early build looked like, and how radically different the UI was back then.
It never came out, not even in the Alpha only Blizzard and those invited by them tested back in the end of 2003.
Stonehaven is a reference stone talon inn youll catch some dwarfs calling it stonehaven
Another reason getting to arathi at level one is impossible, discovery XP. From one to two is so short I doubt they could make it there and still be level one. Nobody in their group was a warlock and definitely not high enough level to summon them there.
I knew Jenkins was a mage but for some reason I thought his bubble spell was foreshadowing the druid moon skill. xD After watching this video I remembered that the mages also had this, which I have used a lot in PvP.
And in a way I can believe at least an hour of battle 1v1. In lich king capture the flag I was a feral druid that can heal on crits build Vs a tank paladin and we fought for at least 20 min. It was obvious no one can win cause both of us healed too much. Had to abandone the zone with the horde flag in hand when 2 more players decided to show up. If we were allowed to finish the 1v1 fight, it would have probably taken an hour at least.
If I'm not mistaken, the Jenkins character's out-of-game player is actually based on a real life dev of WoW with reportedly an obvious resemblances w/ South Park changing his look a bit to look more like the "basement-dweller" versions of the kids you mentioned. Given this background lore, even though we're never told this as the audience, it could make sense both how Jenkins could break the rules as he did to become so powerful & why the GMs couldn't handle taking down & banning Jenkins, b/c he was an inside-man as a fellow dev/GM to the game, especially if Jenkins was a lead dev and part of the team in charge. Of course again, none of this is explicitly stated in the episode, but given the irl inspiration for the character it is an interesting theory to help plug some of these plot holes/mistakes.
Blizzard worked together with them. They did it not wrong it was on purpose.