hey idk if you ever talked about this but I have the ninja v and the a7s3 but when I try to record in 60fps in pro res the ninja disconnects and reconnects constantly but in 24 fps in prores raw its works fine . any idea why this is happening ?
I'm looking to buy a monitor for my A7iii and the Ninja V was the one I was considering. Mainly because I followed your lens suggestions and am so pleased with what I bought.
@@chrisbrockhurst at the moment recording on it isn't my concern. People aren't asking for 4k delivery or would even notice. But as far as I'm aware the Ninja V is the only monitor that don't wipe out a bunch of features on my A7iii. I'm just a little apprehensive to see how it behaves with the A7siii before I buy one. #futureproofing
Boy this video was so valuable. it changed my entire Amazon basket. I'm thinking instead of getting an expensive camera that can record prores I could get a cheaper one with this external recorder and in any time if I want to upgrade to a better camera all I have to do is to change my camera when they become more affordable and still i can use them with this amazing external monitor. Thank you a lot
I spent around $400 on 2 cages and the attachments for mounting, 1 for my camera and 1 for my atomos that way I won't damage my hot shoe mount and to protect the camera and atomos.
Thanks Chris - was just looking at this on the Atomos website tonight. I was wondering how the 1,000 nits brightness would work outside and you seem pretty happy with it - so I’m reassured. Appreciate your straight forward reviews :)
I own it, its easier to see but in super harsh conditions you still need to shade the screen. Also out of the box the exposure is higher than the actual view finder/camera LCD so I had to keep taking shots then adjusting with hdmi cord in and out to match exposure. For video that's not an issue if recording straight to the atoms but anything from camera won't match exposure out of the box.
Hey Chris, I think this was the best video on Ninja so far. Super clear and nicely hands-on. I still have one question though: some people like to record the EVF for UA-cam to show their workflow with photography (great example being Jared Polin), but I was wondering whether it is possible to record the EVF / the screen while doing video. My idea would be to show the audience what settings im using when recording videos. Cheers!
That anamorphic lens is the Sirui 35mm! haha. Great compact anamorphic on a budget but hopefully they start making 1.5x and higher scopes in the future so the characters are a lot more pronounced.
I just got this Ninja monitor and had no idea I also had to get all these accessories just to use it! For something that cost $300 to $400 some of those accessories should have been included with the unit. But, good tutorial anyway! 👍🏾 Question?? Can I use this monitor with and old mini DV tape GL2 camcorder?
I can’t find this answer anywhere: can you import from the SSD SATA drive to an iPad Pro via an adapter to usb-c? I edit video on an iPad and am not sure it will be compatible with the type of SSD the ninja uses.
Hi 🙂 Thx for vids! Will the Cannon R8 be supported by Ninja V? If so, can it record the 10 bit 4k 60 ProRes to the ninja? Or is it limited in some odd way? Thx! J
Hey Chris, Thanks for awesome video. I have the a6400 & doing youtube videos in my bedroom. I was scratching my head whether to buy the Ninja V or not as it is bit expensive. Do you recommend it to go with a6400 ?
i hava a problem. I have the sony a7iii and maybe want to get the shinobi. But when the a7iv comes out it may have raw over hdmi so i might be missing out raw recording.
Hie Chris I have the the a7siii and i was thinking of getting the Ninja 5 and i just wanted to ask if will i be able to record normal 1080p on the ninja? Because most of the work that i do the client just wants normal 1080 no complicated staff…..
@@chrisbrockhurst Gotcha. I was referencing to the 9:28 mark where you were explaining you found the color of the Ninja V to be warmer than directly from the a7iii, and that you made a LUT that you like to use to get colours you out of the Ninja you can't seem to get out of the a7iii. Found that interesting and thought maybe it was a LUT you loaded into the Ninja for monitoring while shooting (so you don't set things cooler or different than they should be).
I have one doubt as a7r3 or a7r4 can't shoot 4k120fps,is it still possible to use a ninja atmos v +(which can shoot upto 4k120fps) to get that job done?
For some reason on my ninja v it doesn’t show the 100fps input. Only 50 when the camera is set to 100fps. Is it recording 100fps then or only 50? 🤔 A bit confusing...
JDM4006 you can set the HDMI out on the Sony to be clean or to have the info display information (the camera display turns off when the display info is turned on, the face tracking AF turns off in certain circumstances when recording 4K, etc). There are quirks using the Ninja V with the A7iii and some drawbacks; Gerald Undone has done in-depth videos about these quirks. Do research before buying for use with the A7iii to make sure there’s no deal-breakers there for you. It works for me but I do have to work around some quirks. It’s not raw video either on the A7iii. The upcoming A7Siii will do raw video with the Ninja.
Hey just curious can Ninja 5 record in higher resolution than what my can... For example my A74 shoots 4k 422 but it has 33mp sensor so can Atmos let me use all of that and shoot in 6k 422??
Hi Chris, I just got my Atomos Ninja V, but does it matter which mode I have my camera in? Normally I hit record from the custom 1,2 dial to quickly go between 24 and 120fps, but I noticed that when I shoot from the custom 1,2 dial the recording on the SSD shows a 4:3 ratio and not the 16:9. Do I need to turn the dial to movie mode and then hit record on the Atomos?
I didnt even know this existed! My a7III is 2 weeks old still learning new things..question though how would you attach a external microphone if the atmos now takes up the top adaptor?
I have a 90D and would like to record 4K60. Only problem is that the 90D maxes out at 4K30. If I set the 90D to a clean HDMI out, would I be able to record 4K60? Also, would I be able to record either 4K30/4K60 in proRes?
Damn. Still deciding between ninja v and the shinobi for my a7iii and x-h1. Don´t need the record function now but maybe later and then I don´t want to buy the Shinobi with record function "again" . Also how is heat in bright sunlight? Tested the ninja before indoors and that thing got hot.
Great vid! I've been on the fence about a monitor for a bit... mainly because I've read that using a monitor disables the A7III Face Tracking feature. Is this noticeable and did you find yourself having to compensate for it?
Hi Chris, I've been having issues with the micro HDMI to HDMI cord from my Atomos to a7iii, do you use the Atomos brand cord for the Ninva V? What do you recommend? Didn't see a link for it in the description. Much appreciated thanks!
@@chrisbrockhurst I feel that. I hate banding.. which sucks cuz... A73 S-log3 8bit 4:2:0 at 100mbps... Hellooooooo banding! But I just try and suck it up for the dynamic range 😍
@@chrisbrockhurst im going to give that shot. Shooting stuff in HLG3 is delaying videos and making it hard to start my channel. Thanks for the content I enjoy like the rest of the top guys on the platform.
I have it since few months. I love it :) I using with a7iii and in my opinion is bit better for color grading than straight from camera. Also will be killer combo with a7siii :) already is with z6 and s1h.
Hey just curious can Ninja 5 record in higher resolution than what my can... For example my A74 shoots 4k 422 but it has 33mp sensor so can Atmos let me use all of that and shoot in 6k 422??
@@MarcinHaFilms okay, Is their any to do that, I read somewhere people use to use external recorder with Nikon D850 to achieve greater resolution then what camera use to offer..
I’m green with envy... Ya bastard! Hahaha I have the V on my hit list but haven’t pull the trigger yet. The a7S3 just took over that hot seat spot! Great overview Chris and yes, I still want the Ninja V... well done!!
Chris Brockhurst, I can imagine it’s fantastic. I’ll wait for the arrival of the a7SIII first and find out if I would actually need the Atomos for that camera. Short of 16bit RAW, it can do everything internally. It would be great on the a7III. But my daughter wants to buy that one. We’ll see. 👍
@@GraphicMill bro... the a7siii literally has a real hdmi slot, if u don't get the atomos ur nuts... itll take ordinary a7siii video and make it better and ull have a way to view on a bigger screen and brighter... much better for seeing your scene.
It should be fine as the a68 has hdmi out, the ninja v is essentially just a portable recorder/screen that records what ever you plug into it via hdmi (prob not copy protected video ie from a DVD)
Actually not true. With the Ninja V and A7iii there is a work around for this. Search A7iii facetracning Gerald Undone, he's done a video on it. Works great, ive used it.
How many quarts in with Sony a 73 Atomos ninja v and recording too many small clips steak 30 seconds 40 seconds I don’t want that I want to record entire video with no stop thank you
Atomos with the A7SIII... YES PLZZZZ
I pre-ordered the A7SIII. September can't come fast enough.
hey idk if you ever talked about this but I have the ninja v and the a7s3 but when I try to record in 60fps in pro res the ninja disconnects and reconnects constantly but in 24 fps in prores raw its works fine . any idea why this is happening ?
dude, you are the best one explaining Ninja V on the whole platform. I have a A7III and want to buy a Ninja V bad! Thanks for the lesson!
I'm looking to buy a monitor for my A7iii and the Ninja V was the one I was considering. Mainly because I followed your lens suggestions and am so pleased with what I bought.
Good to hear! If you need the recorder aspect too you can’t go wrong with the ninja v
@@chrisbrockhurst at the moment recording on it isn't my concern. People aren't asking for 4k delivery or would even notice. But as far as I'm aware the Ninja V is the only monitor that don't wipe out a bunch of features on my A7iii. I'm just a little apprehensive to see how it behaves with the A7siii before I buy one. #futureproofing
Boy this video was so valuable. it changed my entire Amazon basket. I'm thinking instead of getting an expensive camera that can record prores I could get a cheaper one with this external recorder and in any time if I want to upgrade to a better camera all I have to do is to change my camera when they become more affordable and still i can use them with this amazing external monitor. Thank you a lot
I spent around $400 on 2 cages and the attachments for mounting, 1 for my camera and 1 for my atomos that way I won't damage my hot shoe mount and to protect the camera and atomos.
Finally ordered one a few days ago, and I'm hyped for it to come in!
Thanks Chris - was just looking at this on the Atomos website tonight. I was wondering how the 1,000 nits brightness would work outside and you seem pretty happy with it - so I’m reassured. Appreciate your straight forward reviews :)
I honestly can’t use anything else now, it’s so easy to see compared to every other monitor and using the camera
I own it, its easier to see but in super harsh conditions you still need to shade the screen. Also out of the box the exposure is higher than the actual view finder/camera LCD so I had to keep taking shots then adjusting with hdmi cord in and out to match exposure. For video that's not an issue if recording straight to the atoms but anything from camera won't match exposure out of the box.
As always great video.If possible could you make a video about using LUT's.Thanks
I don’t personally use video luts in the sense I think you mean
Hey Chris, I think this was the best video on Ninja so far. Super clear and nicely hands-on. I still have one question though: some people like to record the EVF for UA-cam to show their workflow with photography (great example being Jared Polin), but I was wondering whether it is possible to record the EVF / the screen while doing video. My idea would be to show the audience what settings im using when recording videos.
Cheers!
That anamorphic lens is the Sirui 35mm! haha. Great compact anamorphic on a budget but hopefully they start making 1.5x and higher scopes in the future so the characters are a lot more pronounced.
Chris thank you so much for this video. You have a great programming.
I just got this Ninja monitor and had no idea I also had to get all these accessories just to use it! For something that cost $300 to $400 some of those accessories should have been included with the unit. But, good tutorial anyway! 👍🏾
Question?? Can I use this monitor with and old mini DV tape GL2 camcorder?
I can’t find this answer anywhere: can you import from the SSD SATA drive to an iPad Pro via an adapter to usb-c? I edit video on an iPad and am not sure it will be compatible with the type of SSD the ninja uses.
Solid video! Looking at what monitor to invest in, in the future, and this is shaping up to be that monitor.
Noob Question: When you take the signal over the HDMI to the Ninja V, do you still get the same quality as you would in the camera?
Hi, your sound is kinda low (even with headphones)
Thanks. Just ordered one. How much recording time does 1TB give you in 4K 30fps if you don’t mind ?
Damn. You sold me on it. Atomos should use this vid.
also, olive green is beautiful.
Haha thanks man! It’s a expensive purchase but entirely worthwhile.
Hi 🙂
Thx for vids!
Will the Cannon R8 be supported by Ninja V?
If so, can it record the 10 bit 4k 60 ProRes to the ninja?
Or is it limited in some odd way?
Thx!
J
But you can record in 422 10 bit on Sony a7 iii or its 422 8 bit? Thanks and great videos
Hey Chris, Thanks for awesome video. I have the a6400 & doing youtube videos in my bedroom. I was scratching my head whether to buy the Ninja V or not as it is bit expensive. Do you recommend it to go with a6400 ?
Is there actually a way to control your camera settings from the atamos. Like u see in the thumbnail??
Hey chris , what kinda of connestion did you used,to mount on the camera ?
Great video dude!
i hava a problem. I have the sony a7iii and maybe want to get the shinobi. But when the a7iv comes out it may have raw over hdmi so i might be missing out raw recording.
Giving this a “Green” light. 🍏. Just subbed!!
Hie Chris
I have the the a7siii and i was thinking of getting the Ninja 5 and i just wanted to ask if will i be able to record normal 1080p on the ninja? Because most of the work that i do the client just wants normal 1080 no complicated staff…..
Will it work with a 7 II ? NOT S II or whatever, just a 7 II
How about that color correction LUT you use for the Ninja - Can get ahold of that somehow somewhere?
I dont use one, just a couple adjustments to exposure and saturation in post
@@chrisbrockhurst Gotcha. I was referencing to the 9:28 mark where you were explaining you found the color of the Ninja V to be warmer than directly from the a7iii, and that you made a LUT that you like to use to get colours you out of the Ninja you can't seem to get out of the a7iii. Found that interesting and thought maybe it was a LUT you loaded into the Ninja for monitoring while shooting (so you don't set things cooler or different than they should be).
is it possible to remotely toggle the AE-lock on/off or AF-servo on/off?
Dammit!!!!
Now I need to get of the fence and buy one😉
Good work Chris...
Thanks!!
I have one doubt as a7r3 or a7r4 can't shoot 4k120fps,is it still possible to use a ninja atmos v +(which can shoot upto 4k120fps) to get that job done?
What about Canon m50 mrk ii can I use ninja v and record beyond 29mins?
Hi Chris, great video. What brand SSD are you using? Couldn't find any link about SSD in your description.
Dang you taught a lot of stuff that I had no idea now I want one haha
haha this is why I wanted to make this video, I learnt a bunch by simply purchasing it myself and wanted to pass that along
Will Sony release a firmware update that updates the older Sony menus?
I really really hope so. That would be amazing
Of course not, they want you to buy the a7siii for that, they are greedy af
For some reason on my ninja v it doesn’t show the 100fps input. Only 50 when the camera is set to 100fps. Is it recording 100fps then or only 50? 🤔 A bit confusing...
So you can save raw files to it and use it as a back up card? Does it record your cameras display settings or just the video?
JDM4006 you can set the HDMI out on the Sony to be clean or to have the info display information (the camera display turns off when the display info is turned on, the face tracking AF turns off in certain circumstances when recording 4K, etc). There are quirks using the Ninja V with the A7iii and some drawbacks; Gerald Undone has done in-depth videos about these quirks. Do research before buying for use with the A7iii to make sure there’s no deal-breakers there for you. It works for me but I do have to work around some quirks.
It’s not raw video either on the A7iii. The upcoming A7Siii will do raw video with the Ninja.
Anotherfilm thanks bruv!
Hey Chris - can you use touch to focus on the Atomos Ninja V with the FX3 instead of touching the camera screen?
that would be amazing! but nope
Do the touch setting from your actual camera work on the ninja ?
I wonder how much stress it places on the hot shoe, it does look like quite a heavy setup all connected to one small point on the camera? 🤔
Hi. Can you use the a7siii with the ninja on a jimbal?
Does it make sense to use it on a Sony a7 as an upgrade to record high quality 4K instead of upgrading bodies to an a7III?
could recording with atomos ninja V be the solution to sony A7IV overheating?
What happens when I use APSC mode and record 4K in the ninja? Will it record in 4K resolution or crop?
Hey just curious can Ninja 5 record in higher resolution than what my can... For example my A74 shoots 4k 422 but it has 33mp sensor so can Atmos let me use all of that and shoot in 6k 422??
Can Sony a6600 record 10 bit with external recorder
Can you playback 120p clips in slo-mo on the Atomos?
“OR ANY CAMERA” can’t wait to chuck a ninja on my RX100
Hi Chris, so are you able to record pro res using any camera?
Can I use it with a6100 and shoot in s-log
Hi Chris, I just got my Atomos Ninja V, but does it matter which mode I have my camera in? Normally I hit record from the custom 1,2 dial to quickly go between 24 and 120fps, but I noticed that when I shoot from the custom 1,2 dial the recording on the SSD shows a 4:3 ratio and not the 16:9. Do I need to turn the dial to movie mode and then hit record on the Atomos?
Hey Chris,
Is the any possibility to change the amount of the LUT during playback?
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Thanks. Thinking about it. Subbed
Very nice video, I didn't know it was that good! Will this record RAW when connected to the A7Siii? Now I have the A7iii but maybe one day... 😊
Atomos stated there will be a firmware update for the Ninja V that will allow it to record the new RAW format coming from the A7Siii.
@@Ben-u1e9e That is nice, future proof. Thank you for your answer!
Will it upgrade my EOS 10D?
I didnt even know this existed! My a7III is 2 weeks old still learning new things..question though how would you attach a external microphone if the atmos now takes up the top adaptor?
You're welcome :) The Atomos has threads on it so you can screw in with a magic arm or similar
Get small rig cages for both the camera and the recorder
Thanks for the information ✍️❤🚀
wehn i used te4h nija 5 i can see face recgon on the video> did i do something wrong
I have a 90D and would like to record 4K60. Only problem is that the 90D maxes out at 4K30. If I set the 90D to a clean HDMI out, would I be able to record 4K60? Also, would I be able to record either 4K30/4K60 in proRes?
got the question?
Damn. Still deciding between ninja v and the shinobi for my a7iii and x-h1. Don´t need the record function now but maybe later and then I don´t want to buy the Shinobi with record function "again" . Also how is heat in bright sunlight? Tested the ninja before indoors and that thing got hot.
Ninja V. Its a much better size. Shinobi is too big imo.
@@chrisbrockhurst Shinobi is 5 inches aswell.. all Shinobi is, is a ninja v without recording capabilities
great video chris convinced me to get one especially for back up when shooting weddings. What hot-shoe adapter are you using?
HUGE tool for weddings. This one was actually one that came with an Aputure light.
What’s your specs on your MacBook? How smooth would it be with Premiere Pro do you think? I know they added ProRes to the lineup.
2019 iMac 27 inch. 40 GB RAM. 3.7 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5. Radeon Pro 580X.
How I can simultaneous recording (internally and externally) with Sony A7iii with Atomos Ninja V in the same time ?
Is it possible ?!
Thanks! Do you lose any of the auto focusing features when using ninja?
Yes and no. There is a workaround Gerald Undone has done a video on covering how to shoot 4k with face tracking.
Wait so would this bypass the 30 min. Record limit from my A7iii?
Yes, It bypasses the limit.
It does!
Chris Brockhurst Awesome!! Thank you! Now I don’t have to buy the a7siii lmao!!😂
Its a "bypass" because you don't have to hit record on the camera, but you are recording directly from the recorder using an SSD
Great vid! I've been on the fence about a monitor for a bit... mainly because I've read that using a monitor disables the A7III Face Tracking feature.
Is this noticeable and did you find yourself having to compensate for it?
There’s actually a way to use this and face tracking in 4k. Gerald did a video on it
the colors on this video look so much different from your other videos. was this shot on the eos R ?
Thanks Chris for the video, what cable are you using to connect the monitor nice coiled one....
just a random coiled one from eBay. Hard to find on amazon! takes weeks to arrive so buy in bulk. They were like $6 US each.
@@chrisbrockhurst thanks for the info....
How much better than the feelworld are we talking ? Looking at getting the shinobi as I have the feelworld f5 now and it’s not brilliant
big improvement for sure.
Hi Chris, I've been having issues with the micro HDMI to HDMI cord from my Atomos to a7iii, do you use the Atomos brand cord for the Ninva V? What do you recommend? Didn't see a link for it in the description. Much appreciated thanks!
I just use any HDMI, havnt ever had an issue with any of them
You don't get any better frame rates from the Ninja V do you as opposed from the Sony A7iii? Also the bit rate is still 8 bit not 10 bit?
same frame rates and bit rates, but you get 4:2:2.
can a6600 record 10bit with external recorder
Not all camera are supported. I have a 90D and when I switch to Clean Out the Atomos Ninja V no longer see the correct frame rate coming from the 90D.
Hey Chris, do you happen to have an idea how much a 1tb ssd record with the prores with the A7SIII?
thats a great question and something im not able to test right now as my SSD has projects on it. I'm going to guess in the 3-4ish hour range.
@@chrisbrockhurst Thank you for reply! I was debating whether i should get the 2tb or 1tb for my Ninja V
Video quality is looking real shmick lately dude!
Thanks man, loved the dark look before but the banding was killing me inside haha
@@chrisbrockhurst I feel that. I hate banding.. which sucks cuz... A73 S-log3 8bit 4:2:0 at 100mbps... Hellooooooo banding! But I just try and suck it up for the dynamic range 😍
Love the content! What PP are you using on A7iii? Looks really good.
Creative style neutral these days! No picture profile
@@chrisbrockhurst wow and it looks like that! I was looking to use on the hlg3 PP but its a bit to color grade
Yep. Why I always recommend people try creative style first
@@chrisbrockhurst im going to give that shot. Shooting stuff in HLG3 is delaying videos and making it hard to start my channel. Thanks for the content I enjoy like the rest of the top guys on the platform.
Aldo Fishing In my option HLG 3 is still really good out of the box, and doesn’t take a lot to get the grade you want.
HELP! My 4K output selection is greyed out?
I have it since few months. I love it :) I using with a7iii and in my opinion is bit better for color grading than straight from camera. Also will be killer combo with a7siii :) already is with z6 and s1h.
Hey just curious can Ninja 5 record in higher resolution than what my can... For example my A74 shoots 4k 422 but it has 33mp sensor so can Atmos let me use all of that and shoot in 6k 422??
@@Manawaralam unfortunately not. It will be as in camera 4k 422
@@MarcinHaFilms okay, Is their any to do that, I read somewhere people use to use external recorder with Nikon D850 to achieve greater resolution then what camera use to offer..
Useful for photography ?
Can you record 4k without a 4k memory card?
are there any lower priced recorders that do the same
No
I’m green with envy... Ya bastard! Hahaha I have the V on my hit list but haven’t pull the trigger yet. The a7S3 just took over that hot seat spot! Great overview Chris and yes, I still want the Ninja V... well done!!
Its a pricey thing to buy but 10000000% worth it once you get it. Wish I got it sooner haha
Chris Brockhurst, I can imagine it’s fantastic. I’ll wait for the arrival of the a7SIII first and find out if I would actually need the Atomos for that camera. Short of 16bit RAW, it can do everything internally. It would be great on the a7III. But my daughter wants to buy that one. We’ll see. 👍
@@GraphicMill bro... the a7siii literally has a real hdmi slot, if u don't get the atomos ur nuts... itll take ordinary a7siii video and make it better and ull have a way to view on a bigger screen and brighter... much better for seeing your scene.
I probably am doing something wrong but the quality that records on to my ssd via the atomos V seems to be pretty low
Is this monitor active when taking stills?
If you want it to it can!
Time to buy a7siii Chris
Preordered!
Chris Brockhurst 👍🏻
Will it work on an alpha68 ?
It should be fine as the a68 has hdmi out, the ninja v is essentially just a portable recorder/screen that records what ever you plug into it via hdmi (prob not copy protected video ie from a DVD)
DOES IT WORKS WITH THE NIKON Z5?
yep
Can you take photos while recording on the Ninja V?
yep.
Yes you can take photos AND record eye af and all camera settings while in photo mode.
Will this work fully with an eos rp?
Yep!
Bro i didn t understand how do you focus touching ninja s screen for your manual lense lol
best review
Sirui 35mm? Hopefully
maybeeeeeee
Doesn't the camera automatically shut off
Very useful tool! But don’t rush the gun. Some people think this will make the videos better or quality better.
anyone buying the R5/R6 or As7iii really needs to couple it with a Ninja V to unlock the best features
I’m officially mounting a Jolly Roger flag off my SmallRig that houses my Ninja and my _AAarrrrrrrr!_
You win this week 🏴☠️
Ok... Im convinced ...where is my credit card.
hahaha sorry!!!
Only problem is you lose face detect af when using with an external monitor in 4k
Actually not true. With the Ninja V and A7iii there is a work around for this. Search A7iii facetracning Gerald Undone, he's done a video on it. Works great, ive used it.
Thanks. Found it. You need to tell the camera to disable 4k recording internally first@@chrisbrockhurst
How many quarts in with Sony a 73 Atomos ninja v and recording too many small clips steak 30 seconds 40 seconds I don’t want that I want to record entire video with no stop thank you