Dysthymia-Living with "Low Grade" Depression

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  • In this video, author and depression counselor Douglas Bloch talks about Dysthymia a condition of low-grade depression that can keep you living in the gray zone. Fortunately, dysthymia can be treated using a combination of cognitive and behavioral strategies that we talk about on this channel. In many instances, medication is not needed.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 560

  • @tlenkeeb829
    @tlenkeeb829 4 роки тому +99

    I feel like a spectator to eveything around me, I'm just here watching eveything and eveyone around me go about their business. Not a part of it....just watching.

    • @jaybee2351
      @jaybee2351 3 роки тому +2

      Relatable

    • @Leftyotism
      @Leftyotism 3 роки тому

      And yet we are all part of it. But if that helps you, then there you go.

    • @stevecarol686
      @stevecarol686 3 роки тому +1

      I have been going what you have described all my life.

    • @tlenkeeb829
      @tlenkeeb829 3 роки тому +6

      @@stevecarol686 I'm not sure i will ever feel part of this world. Doesn't matter where I am or who's around me i just feel detached from it. Like an imposter goin thru the motions to fit in. Trying to find out if i have autism spectrum disorder/ asbergers because I have a lot of the traits. It would explain a lot of why I am the way I am.

    • @stevecarol686
      @stevecarol686 3 роки тому +1

      @@tlenkeeb829 I am sorry for your illness. But bigots who cause you pain will in the long term always fail. I have felt detached from society from an early age. It is exceptionally difficult to deal with this either from the sufferer's position to the person who just wants to help.

  • @bamabelle7075
    @bamabelle7075 4 роки тому +84

    I've had this since adolescence. It ruined my life, completely changed who I would've become. I try not dwell on the past, because I can't get those 30 years and missed opportunities back. I can only be grateful for the final realization that I'm ill, and not to be blamed. I'm now working toward a healthy mind and body, and to maybe finally find peace and happiness.

    • @emmasophia8897
      @emmasophia8897 3 роки тому +10

      I can relate with this. I lost the biggest opportunity of my life because of my mental state that time

  • @RedLP5000S
    @RedLP5000S 2 роки тому +31

    I have been dysthymic my entire life. I couldn't put a word to my condition because I just thought that this was the way that everybody felt. It wasn't until I realized that it was impossible for me to feel joy that something actually WAS wrong with me. This has been an enlightening video. Thanks Douglas.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  2 роки тому +3

      You are welcome. Fortunately, there are ways that you can help your brain to feel that pleasure such as therapy, lifestyle habits, and sometimes medication that's the purpose of this channel is to share these coping strategies. You might also want to look at my book called Healing From Depression: A Body, Mind and Spirit Recovery Program

  • @sendai61
    @sendai61 5 років тому +74

    Both Eeyore and Charlie Brown suffer from dysthymia.
    Movies romanticize dysthymia as meloncholia.
    Living in the gray zone, exactly.

  • @VanamaliDas482
    @VanamaliDas482 6 років тому +126

    Dysthymia is awful in the sense that it seems there's never relief. I have it...and the hardest part is trying to navigate people's attitudes more than anything. In America if one isn't grinning from ear to ear, and being an all around cheerleader, you're basically considered a Debbie Downer. For years I tried to fight the DD in me...but now I accept her as being a part of me but not what defines me...and part of the healing process has been to get rid of people who don't understand, and negatively judge depression from my life. That's the healthiest thing I could've ever done.

    • @peggysullivan5396
      @peggysullivan5396 4 роки тому +2

      Zipemova yes I have it and i lost y bff that I’ve had for 47 years she was supposed to be the “nice “ one and understanding one and funny is she got a degree in psychology hoping to be a therapist and yet didn’t stand by me nor even notice

    • @mslollipopswirlz
      @mslollipopswirlz 4 роки тому

      Go you.

    • @ashlik.beautyllc5243
      @ashlik.beautyllc5243 3 роки тому

      @@peggysullivan5396 same. Exact same

  • @CherryJuli
    @CherryJuli 5 років тому +81

    I loved the last part where you put emphasis on positive traits of people with dysthymia.

  • @debijane6747
    @debijane6747 6 років тому +220

    It's a bit of a Catch 22 - simply the idea of exercising exhausts me.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому +35

      That is true of many people with depression. Perhaps you could start by just taking a walk around the block.+DEBI JANE

    • @MsYajvi
      @MsYajvi 5 років тому +2

      DEBI JANE ditto

    • @pamrobinson2726
      @pamrobinson2726 5 років тому +2

      @@MsYajvi That's a ditto from me too 😬

    • @Voxterx
      @Voxterx 4 роки тому +5

      You need to push yourself its very hard i know but you have to 😧

    • @nikkirose4124
      @nikkirose4124 4 роки тому +2

      I can't get out of bed now which is why I am watching the video
      I will eventually get up and go to lunch with a friend and try to walk on beach

  • @samanthavalladares9230
    @samanthavalladares9230 5 років тому +409

    Everything is “meh”

    • @pootdegekste
      @pootdegekste 5 років тому +1

      Is that what sheep feel?

    • @shizzle1903
      @shizzle1903 5 років тому +22

      I have this and social anxiety. Fun shit.
      Update: Add in some Imposter syndrome as well.

    • @thischannelwillselfdestruc4977
      @thischannelwillselfdestruc4977 5 років тому +1

      That is literally how I described thes to my friend earlier hahaha

    • @descender42180
      @descender42180 5 років тому +2

      @@shizzle1903 Same. Fun shit indeed!

    • @sturrrdy
      @sturrrdy 4 роки тому +4

      basically I feel like a psychopath

  • @timmurphy4688
    @timmurphy4688 3 роки тому +13

    Nothing ever gets better. It’s just the same feeling of grayness every day.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  3 роки тому

      I've been there. What coping strategies have you tried to improve your mood?

  • @ellen823ful
    @ellen823ful 5 років тому +68

    I have this dysthymia. I think I've probably had it since I started adolescents.
    Swimming really helps me. It quiets my mind. I breathe deeper. The cool water eases muscle aches.
    I also love horseback riding. When I ride or am just near a horse I am calmed. I just think about how beautiful she is.
    I also must stay in the present moment when i arm riding a horse.. Being present and "in the now" is a great way to give yourself a break. Also if I have a sour thought or if I say something negative to myself I'll say. "STOP!". I will not stay with that thought. It takes persistence though. Just keep at it. Say nice things to yourself. Say, "I did great today!" Be your own best friend. Talk to yourself like you are a good friend or a kindly aunt. Wise, gentle words. Forgive yourself for not being perfect. You are perfectly imperfect.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  5 років тому +7

      It sounds like you have found some really good tools to help you with your mood. I am impressed. Keep up the good work

    • @GuitarMan1117a
      @GuitarMan1117a 5 років тому +1

      If your mind needs to be made more quiet, it sounds like you have anxiety?

    • @sandrasavage9650
      @sandrasavage9650 5 років тому +1

      Swimming is my life!!

    • @martinrobinson9852
      @martinrobinson9852 4 роки тому

      Thanks Ellen.

    • @Leftyotism
      @Leftyotism 3 роки тому

      I also find that a good way. To know that one is not ones thoughts, and if such a formulated impulse-thought comes I am aware of it and reformulate it untill it actually expresses what I am feeling. I started doing that myself about 7 years ago or so. And I can say it really brings some more and more clarity over time. I never felt being worthless, or not being enough, because I am doing that and because I don't take too serious (or at all) what people say who rather spout out their (very often) stupid and not accurately formulated impulses, instead of reflecting what actully was.

  • @ruipedro4337
    @ruipedro4337 6 років тому +244

    I went my whole life with this, and never even understood. I just didn't get any pleasure from life, but that seemed to be normal to me. I would see happy go people, and would just rationalize "well, that's because I'm useless/a failure/an error of nature" and so on. When I tried to voice out my feeling the answer with be either "get a girl!" or "what you need is a solid work! Go work, you lazy piece!". And well, I got the girl and I went to work, and still all the feelings persisted. F*ck...

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому +18

      Well, now you have a name to put on your condition, What you have is not your fault. Millions of Americans have dysthymia, and it is treatable. If you email me, I will send you a chart showing some of the lifestyle actives that will help your mood. douglasbloch@gmail.com

    • @ruipedro4337
      @ruipedro4337 6 років тому +6

      Awight! I replied just now :)

    • @katrina122382
      @katrina122382 5 років тому +8

      @@DouglasBloch Would it be ok if I ask you to send me the information as well? I am agonizing daily about this (self diagnosed) condition of mine. I do not want to consider medication so any alternative treatment option is worth exploring

    • @Leftyotism
      @Leftyotism 3 роки тому +1

      You can still dwell in momentary pleasure, even when "life itself" doesn't do that for you. I am sure you got humor, and laugh when you find something to be funny.

    • @klokesh7079
      @klokesh7079 3 роки тому

      Op

  • @samanthavalladares9230
    @samanthavalladares9230 5 років тому +60

    I just exercised right now it was so hard to get there but it was good afterwards

    • @Leftyotism
      @Leftyotism 3 роки тому +1

      For me it is being relieved because it's over. So I don't even start, lol. But I understand that for some people it is different. xD

  • @seanchilcote4581
    @seanchilcote4581 6 років тому +103

    I have been diagnosed with dysthymia. And, contrary to its definition, is quite debilitating. I have had it for over 20 years.

    • @bethleblonc2443
      @bethleblonc2443 2 роки тому +12

      Its actually heartbreaking when i hear the definition with "less serious". I feel that it needs to be redefined with better wording, or maybe just not compared in that way.

    • @browneyez1559
      @browneyez1559 Рік тому

      Do you have a temperament similar to this man?

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 Рік тому +7

      It’s horrible as it is always there. You can have good days but you can almost guarantee the next morning you will be back to feeling meh

    • @indigoblue4791
      @indigoblue4791 Рік тому

      ​@@browneyez1559I think his temperament is all his own.

  • @yuliana6997
    @yuliana6997 3 роки тому +8

    I was diagnosed with dysthymia when i was 13, i feel like i've wasted my entire life, i'm so tired.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  3 роки тому +1

      Have you reached out for professional help?

  • @Didleeios88
    @Didleeios88 4 роки тому +33

    This explains the years 2007-2013 in my young adult life. I spent that time going back and forth between assuming I must be depressed but realizing I was too high functioning. I got out of bed everyday and lived my life in a fog. I did nothing to deal with this unnamed problem.
    I finally got out of that slump when I started my previous job. The work added meaning to my life and my manager built my self esteem. I still have a tendency towards dark thoughts and down moods but I am eternally grateful to my manager and the belief she had in me.
    There is hope. Life gets better.

  • @Inshanitythewriter
    @Inshanitythewriter 4 роки тому +58

    See the thing is, they say “exercise” or “eat properly”. But even that is pretty hard for me.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  4 роки тому +7

      Yes, these things are hard. It helps to get the encouragement of others

    • @laubowiebass
      @laubowiebass 4 роки тому

      Inshanitythewriter it’s very worth it . The second part of my workout and the rest of the day after it are usually the best parts of the day for me . And it gets better and better .

    • @Leftyotism
      @Leftyotism 3 роки тому +1

      Even without appetite, hunger will make one eat. Just the most nessesary sometimes, but still. At leat you won't get too fat, right? xD
      I hate doing both of these things as well, maybe you need to find something you really like. But I am sure you've heard all of that as well as me.

  • @simulki7108
    @simulki7108 3 роки тому +13

    Been feeling low on life for as long I can remember. I have eaten all kind of nature suppliments, tried weight lift and do walks, eat food high in vitamins and go to bed early but even so I always feel fatigued, so much so that I do no longer care to excersise or follow any good sleep patterns. The worst part about my dysthymia is I have no intrests or goals in life, literaly none, I only do things I have to do, not because I want to, nothing brings me joy in life. I am only 26 years old and I fear the future, wondering how I will be able to live through life as I am totaly dead inside. The result of this being made me do opiodes last year as it is the only time in my life I can feel good inside, sad but true.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  3 роки тому +4

      Have you talk to a psychiatrist or other prescriber about possibly going on medication? Also you should talk with your doctor to see if you have an under active thyroid gland which often is the cause of depression. Make sure you rule out all of the medical conditions that can cause depression

    • @zarhun7
      @zarhun7 3 роки тому +3

      40 been feeling down dead most of my life too. Human nature and lot of people using me has not helped.

    • @readingwolf108
      @readingwolf108 3 роки тому

      Wow, I am going through the exact same situation. 26 yr old and have no goals or ambitions, no life in me. I feel like a dead person everyday. The things I used to enjoy such as my art has become such a difficult chore that I don’t want to put it the effort to finish them. I have ideas and fantasies that give me a rush for five minutes, then I crash just to crawl in bed and spend the day sleeping. I hate the way I am, it feels like I’m trapped in a heavy human body that won’t let me do anything.

    • @Anarchivist343
      @Anarchivist343 3 роки тому

      26 too, same situation.

    • @makethebestofit1699
      @makethebestofit1699 3 роки тому +2

      @@readingwolf108 set a goal. Why not display your art? Have a showing? Invite friends & family. Serve some food hang your art work on the wall for those to see. Having a goal, like the show might get you back to creating art.

  • @kater2k
    @kater2k 3 роки тому +9

    This makes a lot of sense. I don’t look or act like your typical “depressed” person but I know it’s definitely there. For many years or just not feeling happy and experiencing every symptom, but not to the point of non functional. Just living with it. Also the double depression thing gets me, too.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  3 роки тому +1

      Join the club. There are a number of things that we can do to raise your mood, such as exercise, diet, getting good sleep, social support, having a routine, spirituality, psychotherapy. I have a diagram with 45 of the strategies that you can have if you wish

  • @karowolkenschaufler7659
    @karowolkenschaufler7659 3 роки тому +7

    I'm coming out of this right now. after 2 and a half years of analytic therapy and some light antidepressants. the really nasty thing is, that this is so light... that noone notices. I've been suffering from it as long as I can remember. people saw me cry more than was normal... but noone had the time to look propperly and noone did or said anything. so I thought it was normal and I just had to pull myself together. and I became really good at that. it took me 25 years to realise that something was really wrong. 1 year to find a therapist. and yea.. after 2 and a half years of therapy I'm pretty good. I've connected to myself. wich makes so many things so much easier. social encounters that I could only manage by rehearsing the conversations in my head... and learning from past mistakes... like an AI trying to become human.... these things now just happen. it's magic.

  • @davidpickell4227
    @davidpickell4227 6 років тому +30

    You are quickly turning into an old friend, with help offered by one experienced survivor to a less experienced one on the battleground of these brain illnesses. Thank you.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому +1

      Thanks Dave. I'm glad that my videos are helping. Are you seeing a therapist to help you with your depression recovery?

    • @davidpickell4227
      @davidpickell4227 6 років тому +3

      Douglas Bloch hello, yes. I have a few professionals helping me. I'm a few weeks into medication. And some non traditional help, however, the hopelessness hasn't shifted as yet. But I'm still standing. Thanks for asking.

    • @SS-jj3gw
      @SS-jj3gw 5 років тому

      Dave Pickell hi how are you now? ❤️

  • @julie4383
    @julie4383 4 роки тому +11

    I was diagnosed with Dysthymia 6 years ago, although my psychiatrist reckons I've had it most of my life.
    I am currently having CBT Therapy, which is helping tremendously.
    Thankyou for your channel.

  • @MrRockett88
    @MrRockett88 5 років тому +18

    Love the Eeyore reference. I suffer from dysthymia and have been referred to as Eeyore

    • @Leftyotism
      @Leftyotism 3 роки тому

      I will now look up what an eeyore is, because I forgot. xD

  • @ivanvs4497
    @ivanvs4497 6 місяців тому +1

    One of the more compassionate videos on dysthymia! Great. The thing about dysthymia is that it feels like you constantly have to keep yourself afloat to not sink into even deeper depression or be in a low mood all day. I often envy people who wake up ready to start the day, like that feeling is not reserved for me

  • @ginagray8040
    @ginagray8040 3 роки тому +4

    I am 65 years old and knew that I have suffered from low grade depression all of my life but never knew until very recently that there is a medical term for it. This video was very helpful. Thank you!

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  3 роки тому

      You’re welcome. I hope you are finding some good ways to manage the condition.

    • @wildflowerwind6941
      @wildflowerwind6941 3 роки тому

      Same with me. I am 60 yrs old. I have felt this way my whole life. And as I look back it makes a lot of sense. Never interested in passionate about anything. Just trying not to feel down every day
      I have been on anti depressants as long as I can remember. Dont think I could function without them.

  • @robertmclean6629
    @robertmclean6629 5 років тому +4

    Thank you Douglas very much. You’ve helped me and inspired me to help others live a better meaningful life.

  • @Kurtyvid
    @Kurtyvid 6 років тому +2

    Thank you very much, Mr. Bloch.

  • @jeffreychavey4161
    @jeffreychavey4161 6 років тому +9

    Thank you. I am going through a rough patch and your videos help me make it through the day

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому +1

      I’m glad that I could be of help.

  • @neansodonnell4244
    @neansodonnell4244 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for being not just very smart but also so willing to help others. You have just described me.

  • @thelionsam
    @thelionsam 3 роки тому +7

    what an eye-opener learning about dysthymia has been. I feel like I found the missing page from my brain user manual. Thank you.

  • @nancyvega1785
    @nancyvega1785 6 років тому +26

    It's very informative, thank you, Douglas.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому

      You are welcome Nancy. I will be doing another live video chat on Wednesday at 11 am Pacific Time.

  • @prabharavisundar4252
    @prabharavisundar4252 6 років тому +3

    Thank you for these videos.Not many speak about such problems.

  • @jonvaughn8286
    @jonvaughn8286 6 років тому +15

    Very informative video Douglas. I have applied some of the principles you talk about and I am doing much better...spending less time in the gray fog. Best wishes to you sir. Your work is impacting so many lives and helping people find a positive path to walk down.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому

      Thanks Jon. I also wanted to let you know about a crowdfunding site that I have started to help me continue to make my videos and websites. Please feel no obligation to contribute, but if you would like to take a look, here is the website.
      www.patreon.com/douglasbloch

  • @spbausch
    @spbausch 3 роки тому +3

    I have had much success with many of the tools you recommend, including exercise, meditation, social interaction, light therapy and nutrition and I want to encourage people to try this route and hang in there. It comes and goes but it definitely can get better. And it's a good thing to be a serious, deep, responsible person. Lincoln has always been my hero and I can relate to his suffering.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  3 роки тому

      I feel the same way about Lincoln. One of the great heroes of American history

  • @nicolevisser8768
    @nicolevisser8768 4 роки тому

    You really helped me to understand myself! Knowing this will help a lot when i'm starring therapy!!! Thank you❤

  • @MCE593
    @MCE593 6 років тому

    Thanks Douglas! This was very informative!! Keep up the great job you are doing!

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому

      Thanks Evelyn. Did you identify with the diagnosis?

  • @Suraj_Mehra0211
    @Suraj_Mehra0211 5 років тому +3

    Amazing video sir. Thank you.

  • @Sonicspeed3000
    @Sonicspeed3000 5 років тому +2

    Very informative and helpful Douglas, I have been a dysthymic for 3 years and I'm just recently discovering that I've been suffering from this condition. All of the symptoms make sense and recently I have been losing sleep due to stress from my studies and the difficulties of being an international student low on money. Dysthymia is mostly improved by CBT in combination with anti-depressants.
    About the exercise, it helps a lot, I have yet to see someone engage in exercise and end up feeling worse. A good tip would be to put exercise in the morning and afternoon, I used to exercise in the evenings and it would leave me feeling so tired that I could not even sleep.

  • @sweetchanel1843
    @sweetchanel1843 6 років тому

    Thank you Douglas.
    You're my ray of light x

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому

      You are welcome. Also I will be doing a live You Tube Q&A video chat on my channel on Wednesday October 11 at 11 am Pacific Time. I hope you can tune in.

  • @martinrobinson9852
    @martinrobinson9852 4 роки тому +1

    Hello Douglas,
    I've stumbled across your channel on utube and want you to know I'm enjoying listening to your talks.
    Best,

  • @KathleenRenninger
    @KathleenRenninger 4 роки тому +3

    Oh thank you for pointing out the positive traits that come along with what seems to be my "nature"!

  • @stellabandante2727
    @stellabandante2727 5 років тому +3

    Super informative and clear. I like your lifestyle remedies and have been following them. Thank you.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  5 років тому

      If you email me, I will send you a really nice diagram of all of my lifestyle habits

  • @pinkpeonyy
    @pinkpeonyy 6 років тому

    Hi Douglas, thank you. I never considered this, and I have an appt Fri and am going to bring this topic up. much thanks for your direction to go in to continue finding explanations and strategies.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому +1

      You're welcome. Let me know what the doctor thinks in terms of your having dysthymia ? +Pink Peony

  • @Jessica_May1
    @Jessica_May1 4 роки тому +1

    thank you Douglas ❤️

  • @LolaClo
    @LolaClo 6 років тому +3

    Thank you!!!! This has been very helpful!

  • @makaylahollywood3677
    @makaylahollywood3677 3 роки тому +6

    "Dysthymia is me, too much loss, abuse and grief in a short time.

  • @arlenerivera-gw4st
    @arlenerivera-gw4st 4 місяці тому

    Finally, a name to the feeling I live with every day. There is so little information out there unless one is in a major depression or is bi-polar. I never have manic highs, but I never feel so low that I cannot function as required. The loss of joy. You have helped me to understand and I thank you. I've just become a subscriber to learn more on this journey.

  • @jemgem9593
    @jemgem9593 4 роки тому +1

    Love your videos as they help me feel less alone with my chronic gutted feeling for decades xxxxx and I love all the Pooh stories of course 💚🌟✨

  • @padrejuan7763
    @padrejuan7763 3 роки тому

    Greeting from Montréal, Québec, Canada !!! THANK YOU Mr. Bloch, you have FINALLY put a name on my emotional/mental situation, wich my doctor could not do if not to call it 'Occasional Depressive Mood', but i have been with that for the past 10-15 years !!! People around me telling me I had no reasons to feel like since I was not sick, I had a good job, good friends around me, etc...but inside...I FELT EMPTY !!! For the past 4-6 years... Headaches, Acid Reflux, Nausea, difficulty deciding on my work tasks, not being able to concentrate on a short video or movie more than 15 minutes, Sooo THANK you, i shall talk to my NEW doctor about it and see what goes from now on? I'll keep you post of any further news !!!

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  3 роки тому

      Thanks. Let me know. Dysthymia is very common in the United States.

  • @camillea7697
    @camillea7697 2 роки тому

    I have to love u tube for helping us all feel less alone.
    Learn to like yourself more and dysthymia will be less and less an issue. We’re special people.

  • @sp4rklino
    @sp4rklino 5 років тому +2

    thank you sir this was really informative

  • @malwinelogina9781
    @malwinelogina9781 5 років тому

    This helped me so much! Thank you!!

  • @zachgeiser6983
    @zachgeiser6983 2 роки тому

    Douglas, thank you for making this video and sharing your ideas. It makes an impact on my life even if for only moments.

  • @k.ravishankar5063
    @k.ravishankar5063 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Douglas

  • @jaybird6034
    @jaybird6034 6 років тому +1

    Thank you Douglas

  • @haimause9797
    @haimause9797 6 років тому +1

    Thanks Douglas!

  • @noonespecial1178
    @noonespecial1178 5 років тому

    thank you fo this vid it helps me in living in the gray zone

  • @jailinnekeller6488
    @jailinnekeller6488 4 роки тому +2

    I’m living with sadness and low self steam since I was a child. But me and my family never saw this as a problem. I’m 22 years old. But now in medical school, with a lot of pressure, that symptoms have just got worse. I feel like a failure, not capable, joy doesn’t exist or when exists it’s just a moment. And symptoms goes on. I started treatment psychiatric and tried some therapists on the past years but didn’t feel improvement. Now on that pandemic phase that we are going through I got in another crisis. Started consulting with a new psychiatrist and yesterday we found the name for my sadness and miserable life! DYSTHYMIA. I’m felling better just for knowing that I’m not alone, have researches about it. Now I want to find a therapist that I really could express myself. Thanks Douglas for sharing your experience.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  4 роки тому +3

      You’re welcome.. I wish you the best in finding a good therapist. There are also many lifestyle things to do when you have dysthymia. My favorite is intense exercise which changes my mood quickly

    • @Elham_32356
      @Elham_32356 Місяць тому

      Hi jailinnekeller first of all, I must say that I am sorry that you are in this state of mind, of course, your comment is from three years ago, I hope things have improved now. I am 27 years old and I suffer from dysthymia and bipolar. It is also terribly difficult. When you wrote that the family does not see this as a problem at all, I remembered that a decade of my life was spent fighting and my parents never understood that I was facing suicidal thoughts and a devastating mental state. I started the treatment when I was a teenager and someone took me seriously and helped me. Now I am in a better condition. I have changed my lifestyle for a year now and I am receiving medicine again. I don't know how long my condition will last, but I hope that advanced medicines and treatments to be discovered for future generations.
      I thought that my efforts were going to pay off, but it seems that only my efforts make me survive without any important achievements.
      I am so tired of fighting.
      It is really encouraging to have a strong supporter who is by one's side and takes the illness seriously.

  • @kbderek610
    @kbderek610 4 роки тому +2

    I went there a serious clinical depression and now have dystemia. It's a little fatiguing but so much better then serious depression. With coping tips you can live a good quality of life

  • @sling247
    @sling247 3 роки тому

    Doug, I appreciate you 🙂

  • @ukkomies100
    @ukkomies100 3 роки тому +2

    got my meds now. i didnt realize / remember that ”normality” was this amazing. i dont know if it sound healthy or is the first thing that comes to mind just medical euphoria but im feeling hopefull. for the first time in a long time

  • @pamrobinson2726
    @pamrobinson2726 5 років тому +1

    Thank you so much for the clear explanation of something that's overshadowed my life for so long. I've been tipped over into episodes of deep depression by traumatic life events & tragic losses - each time recovery has been even more difficult - I'm dealing with the ageing process & the challenges that brings on top of the other features of this condition. This insidious affliction needs a lot more exposure & understanding. I've exhausted myself by putting out a bubbly, wacky persona which is, effectively, denial. Quite a destructive coping strategy as, when I do 'crash', people who know me tend to dismiss it which sets me on a further downward loop. I don't want to get into the additional pain caused by others' thoughtlessness but it's so hard getting on day by day with no support & having to consciously avoid certain situations & people.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  5 років тому +2

      You might want to find a good therapist to talk with and create a relationship where you can express your authentic self

  • @karlos258
    @karlos258 5 років тому +6

    When I was diagnosed with dysthymia, personally, I was elated. For me it was the finial piece of the puzzle that I have working on with mental health professionals for 25 years. I have been diagnosed with dyslexia lite, an emotional disorder, anxiety disorder, chronic sever depression, PTSD, addictive personality, and because I was born with several heart conditions and a muscle spasm disorder, these created a more depressive life for myself. But being diagnosed with Dysthymia meant I finally knew where to start working on myself. So over the past 6 months things are getting much better than they have been in a decade or so. 6 months ago I started to use cannabis daily. High CBD in the morning and throughout the day and high THC when the sun goes down. Believe it or not the cannabis helped me make the decision to find, and focus on, an exercise programme I can do with my many health restrictions. I found DDPY, after only three months of easy workouts I'm showing abdominal muscles for the first time in my life and I've lost 60 lbs. Mentally, I feel happier, less angry, more positive, laughing harder, enjoying activities. I'm not saying things are perfect though. Higher price for medications, on top of the six chemical prescriptions I take for my heart. Then there's dealing with "people". I tend to not be able to deal with that certain type of egomania combined with stupidity that I see in some... most... you know what I mean. So there are slip ups, and refocus is needed. But is it nice to be able to understand one's self.

    • @bastianbriceno3950
      @bastianbriceno3950 4 роки тому

      uh hello you ever try meds for dhysthamia like anti depresants?

    • @royolsen4220
      @royolsen4220 3 роки тому

      @@bastianbriceno3950 you may assume no they have not, but I assume they had, because I did as well (Zoloft, Lexapro) and they didn't help me at all. A small amount of cannabis does help reduce dysthmia for me, but it can increase anxiety and panic for me, so it's not a perfect solution. However, on some days when everything is gray and I just want to give up a little cannabis will help me get moving; to exercise, to do chores, to go that social engagement that I'm dreading. Be well

  • @DeliaV298
    @DeliaV298 5 років тому +1

    Keep up the good work by sharing your experience and your knowledge. I suffered from dysthymia years ago for approximately 2 years and thankfully have been healed entirely. I would hate to ever find myself in that way of living ever again. I pray the same for you friend.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  5 років тому +1

      Thank you. I’m glad you are better. Continue to work on the maintenance skills that will keep your mood at an even balance. If you send me your email address, I can email you a color chart of self-care strategies that I found useful to maintain wellness.

    • @DeliaV298
      @DeliaV298 5 років тому

      For sure! Is there a way to send it to you personally?

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  5 років тому

      Send me your email address to douglasbloch@gmail.com

    • @Riderules73
      @Riderules73 4 роки тому

      How did you get healed? I thought essentially it is a genetic predisposition and needs to get controlled mainly through meds?

    • @ahmedaraale4996
      @ahmedaraale4996 2 роки тому +1

      Glad to hear I hope to heal from dysthymia as well

  • @08jkhnor
    @08jkhnor 5 років тому

    Thank you so much

  • @debbiethomas4472
    @debbiethomas4472 5 років тому +1

    Very interesting. I never heard of this form of depression

  • @steve.m7443
    @steve.m7443 3 роки тому

    I've never seen anyone show the positive traits of a person that suffers from Dysthymia or any mental disorder really. I've had this since I was an adolescent and now at 28 I'm proactively trying to change my lifestyle and work on controlling negative thoughts. The latter has felt overwhelmingly difficult but I relate to some of these positive traits and want to work to feeling like it's ok to admit I may have some of them. This video feels like a starting point for me. Thank you Doug

  • @kunela2275
    @kunela2275 6 років тому +5

    doug thank u sir u are the best

  • @hueningkai25
    @hueningkai25 4 роки тому +2

    “ if it is a good morning... which i doubt” that hit me hard

  • @Spiritual494
    @Spiritual494 3 роки тому

    Graat video thank you. I hadn't even heard of this. I think i might have it.

  • @grumblekin
    @grumblekin 4 роки тому +4

    It's a nasty cycle, as my dysthymia spurred binge episodes of carbs and kept me from exercising...when your health inevitably drops because of this horrible lifestyle, it makes the dysthymia even more prevalent in your daily thoughts.

  • @stevecarol686
    @stevecarol686 3 роки тому

    Great video Mr Bloch.

  • @haroldroberts5250
    @haroldroberts5250 4 роки тому

    Thank you. You’ve just given me a name for how I’ve been feeling for the last couple years. I’m not sad, I’m not happy. I’ve lost interest in most things, but have no suicidal ideation. Been thinking about seeking Esketamine treatments. I want to feel some semblance of joy again.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  4 роки тому

      Feeling some semblance of joy is a good goal. Have you tried intense exercise?

    • @haroldroberts5250
      @haroldroberts5250 4 роки тому

      Douglas Bloch , thank for the question. Answer, absolutely. I exercise consistently 4-5 days a week. High intensity strength and cardio full body. I also used to be a 50 mile a week runner, but had to give that up due to piriformis syndrome. Workouts do provide a couple hours of post workout feel good juice, but it subsided quickly.

  • @chrisobrien6192
    @chrisobrien6192 6 років тому

    Thank you

  • @keeperoflostsouls13
    @keeperoflostsouls13 6 років тому

    Thank you Douglas! I recently went into the doctor and talked about what had been going on. I took the little questionnaire they have and scored on the severe end. She's started me on some pills and she was super happy I finally felt comfortable enough to talk to her about it and get treated. We'll see what happens but since then I've been kindof feeling disconnected more so than before. I'm trying some pills that I was on before (which had stopped working but maybe since its been years and years they will work again?) I'll let you know what happens.

  • @dolly1983
    @dolly1983 3 місяці тому

    reading the comments is making me both cry and feel relieved. So many truisms. Having not a single goal or aspiration. Pushing for healthy patterns only to feel the apathy return. What discipline is to exist when the world just widdles on as it does? Being static, unadventurous, uninspired. Most times, the words just feel pedantic and unheard - moreover a waste of breath. I hate having to exist to exist but don’t really have any desire to die or live. So i just keep puttering. becoming shallower and feverish each day.
    For somebody who feels deeply disconnected. it’s nice to have felt seen and heard in this comment section

  • @Tamarind525
    @Tamarind525 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the reinforcement about lifestyle factors like exercise, meditation, and diet as ways to manage dysthymia.

  • @olohunseyezaynab5311
    @olohunseyezaynab5311 Рік тому

    This video makes everything kinda easy for me

  • @escapematrixenterprisejacq7810
    @escapematrixenterprisejacq7810 3 роки тому

    thank you

  • @bonniemoerdyk9809
    @bonniemoerdyk9809 3 роки тому

    Thank you Douglas for showing us the Thymus Tap....I will try that!

  • @1212341234alan
    @1212341234alan 4 роки тому

    Thank you I have this disorder this was good 😊

  • @mitzilinn
    @mitzilinn 11 місяців тому

    Hi Douglas. Great you are presenting here. ❤. Mitzi

  • @CarlosGarcia-ij4yg
    @CarlosGarcia-ij4yg 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this video. I checked all the boxes for dysthimia. But i never knew about the positives. I checked all those as well. I guess i have it!

  • @ddp2049
    @ddp2049 2 роки тому

    Great video very informative.

  • @riversong6216
    @riversong6216 4 роки тому +3

    This describes what I've felt all my life. Nothing about living gives me any pleasure. I am married and have children and grandchildren but life feels like more of a chore than anything else. As I get older I find myself being easily irritated by others because I just want them to leave me alone. I do exercise, practice yoga, and have attended church regularly since i was a child but in my experience with the churches I have attended have found that their "my way or the highway" attitude is of little help and more of hindrance to my well being. I discuss this with no one because even light depression in the community I grew up in is an evil spirit that should be rebuked and ignored and one should never admit to submitting to an evil spirit.
    I have also had some things that have happened that have caused me to sink into full depression but again to admit that would be accepting an evil spirit. I had begun to discuss these issues with my GP because he was one of the few that I felt I could be honest with but he retired more than years ago and the doctor who took his place is flippant with my care.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  4 роки тому +2

      There are many good counselors out there who would understand what you were going through and would empathize. You could also look for a support group

  • @billboyd6457
    @billboyd6457 3 роки тому +1

    hi doug
    very helpful. thanks. i
    ''ve been in the gray zone since age 14. 60 years ago. time to move out
    God bless you

  • @SarjianVA
    @SarjianVA 2 роки тому +3

    Been recently diagnosed with dysthymia. Thanks for this, especially for the little trivia in the end. Felt a bit more useful and significant from it..
    Wishing for healing for everyone!

  • @bojango2
    @bojango2 3 роки тому

    Your post on low grade depression is very timely because the symptoms and the treatment options associated with it hqve baffled me until your post helped me understand that a healthy lifestyle and counseling can assist me with copying with low grade depression. This form of depression has its drawbacks and benefits, but anyone can live with low grade depression.

  • @Elham_32356
    @Elham_32356 Місяць тому

    Sometimes I think about my situation and say, was this life?
    For a decade, anxiety and depression, and when I sleep, it's all negative dreams. When I wake up, I see my illness and loneliness. Medicine, exercise and all these positive things, I really don't know why I don't see much effect. Depression has to pass a decade of my efforts to come to a conclusion.
    Devastating is the only word I can use. It's just that depression is not permanent, the fear of the return of mania is a different story.
    This mental crisis and seeing the people around me who are healthy people gives me a hard feeling of loneliness. I wish I could get better one day.

  • @paulafrancis8084
    @paulafrancis8084 6 років тому

    Wow Thank you

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому

      You’re welcome. Have you subscribed to the channel?

  • @carlajenkins1990
    @carlajenkins1990 4 роки тому +3

    That sounds more like me. For way too many years, everybody was bipolar. It was almost fashionable. I had an endurable low grade depression that could almost pass as normal. Then, something awful actually happened to me. I was left knowing what a major depressive episode is.
    Now my faithful friend is a low grade depression. I said fathful friend because he sticks beside me through everything. Always there. Because I can never be rid of him, I have had to make peace. So I take my medication like a good girl. He is still there, but I sleep much better at night. Exercise is also good. I used to have a gym membership, and go workout everyday. Nowadays, just getting up and making my dinner and cleaning house has to substitute.
    The awful part is the loneliness and boredom. I went three whole days this week without bathing or brushing my teeth. Or even seeing another human being. I really need to work on that.

    • @bastianbriceno3950
      @bastianbriceno3950 4 роки тому

      Are you med tolerant or they never made you feel happy? cheers.

  • @MrWheelman82
    @MrWheelman82 6 років тому +47

    Dysthymia combined with anxieties and oversensitivity is a really fun combination, usually, dysthymia isn't crippling, but combined with a lot of stress, you got yourself a recipe for disaster.
    Sadly, for me, exercising doesn´t really help, not even if it´s to the point of exertion, I have never felt a high after exercising, my father has the same problem.
    it might be caused by the pain I experience after exercising, I have some minor handicaps that mostly come down to limited balance and spatial awareness, flat feet, shortened Achilles' tendons, and last but not least, mild scoliosis. This causes pain after exercising more often than not, be it back pain or sore feet, I think that might lessen, or even reverse the effect it has on my mood.
    Anyway, getting off track here.
    Eating nearly always helps against the depressed feelings, sadly that, combined with antipsychotics can result in tremendous weight gain, making it sometimes torturous to have to resist a near guarantee of feeling better immediately, for the sake of long-term health.
    Best thing I've found that helps against the depressed feelings is regularly going out to have lunch with someone I can talk with really well, it's a great distraction.
    Still, turning 20 in two weeks, yay? I've been dysthymic since my 13th, hell, how my life feels wasted...

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому +13

      Your life is not wasted. You have your whole life ahead of you. Keep working on your recovery and find a good therapist. It will pay off in the long run.

    • @Rubiastraify
      @Rubiastraify 6 років тому +2

      Yes, "Yay!"...you've already made it through some difficult times! What I've found that helps is turning to the great thinkers and artists - Plato, Dante, Beethoven, etc. Delve into profound thinkers. Today's culture mostly celebrates the bestial and the banal. Man is not an animal; he was born for something better. Abraham Lincoln is a great example, because he truly acted like a statesman and despite setbacks in his life, was devoted to saving the Union and healing the wounds of war. He used Shakespeare to teach his cabinet strategy. So, keep on going! In spite of all the bad stuff, Life can be beautiful.

    • @haseygawa
      @haseygawa 5 років тому +1

      MrWheelman82 same here. But we need to learn how to manage it. Always remember you're not the only one with dysthymia. There's lots of us like you dealing with it.

    • @kristinamullen4066
      @kristinamullen4066 5 років тому +2

      I thought you were about 40 until I read your age! I wish you a healthy life, since your life is just beginning.Don't give up!Find a therapist to help or a support group where you'll meet others with the same issues and can get advice from older people who have been where you are.

    • @achalsharma765
      @achalsharma765 4 роки тому

      Bro same can we friends maybe it'll help us both my Instagram is is achalsharma_

  • @LiliRoseMcKayMusic
    @LiliRoseMcKayMusic 3 роки тому +2

    After I was first diagnosed with depression when I was 14 my mom bought me an eyore plush. needless to say I was touched but also cried a lot

  • @Ibrahimskhatri
    @Ibrahimskhatri 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you Douglas... the description of the personality of they Dysthymic person just hit me on the face. I have to do something about it and the pandemic does not help either.

  • @josejimenaz
    @josejimenaz 2 роки тому

    Nostalgic tunes n nostalgic memories of the city n countryside can help

  • @sinkovec8996
    @sinkovec8996 6 років тому +2

    That's exactly how I've been for the last, well since I can remember. Stressful events recently produced a full blown depression. I'm better, but want to treat the dysthymia.

  • @DaughterOfChrist1997
    @DaughterOfChrist1997 6 років тому

    thanks!

  • @nfc598
    @nfc598 6 років тому +17

    I love dysthymia, it's made my life a thrill.

  • @dalesands1291
    @dalesands1291 3 роки тому

    I was diagnosed with dysthymia 3 years ago. I never had a name for those off days when even simple things could be hard. Like not remembering addresses and I have well developed visual memory for that stuff. Looking back it could be a few days and I could never figure it out. The woman I was talking to said fully functioning depressives are the hardest to diagnose. Apparently we have the episodes and find our happy place until the next time.

  • @carloslievano2303
    @carloslievano2303 3 роки тому

    Once a problem has been defined... It is half way solved ! As soon as I found out about Dysthymia.. I found out what was wrong with me. 75 % of Mr. Block's Quadrant graph is about Self-Help. Instantaneously after self-diagnosing with this condition, I was on my way excitedly forward with my life.

  • @c.chonii5568
    @c.chonii5568 6 років тому +60

    I am always tired. Even in times i've taken a nap or slept i feel sluggish and low, my symptoms can go from light to heavy, light being the days where i feel genuinely happy and not as low as heavy, heavy being days where i am sobbing, very low, very sluggish, feel like screaming, and generally experiencing a caged hell, my general mood is pretty low, and i have felt this way since i was around 6 years old, despite my symptoms i am still very skeptical and not sure if my symptoms are the result of hormones or Dysthymia. Please help diagnose.

    • @DouglasBloch
      @DouglasBloch  6 років тому +5

      It is probably dysthymia. But to be sure, you need to consult with a psychiatrist as well as doctor who specializes in treating hormone imbalances. See what they think.

    • @karathebear2414
      @karathebear2414 5 років тому +2

      I have Dysthemia which has been diagnosed professionally and your description sounds very similar to my general life experience with it. I would suggest getting that professional dx however as they can really show what best treatment is for you as an individual

    • @rebeccaoprea9917
      @rebeccaoprea9917 4 роки тому

      C.C Honii not sure if you’re male of female but hormones okay a huge role .