Owamie, you deserve to be a talk show host. You carried this interview so well. You have grown so much with interviews. You no longer interrupt your guests, you ask sharp - important questions, you listen , you engage. I love it for you. This is growth on so many levels . Oh by the way, the setup is beautiful, so elegant and sophisticated.
Yep! I support this statement 100%. There has been so much growth, we definetly need to see you more in this light-as a talk show host. This episode was amazing, I didn't even notice how long it was.
What’s actually sad is that there are many people with legit credentials and qualifications who aren’t getting any jobs but they are out here giving jobs to people who are fake. Its so disappointing
@@gracious2869 no they are not making it difficult. In any country you do your medical license and they are not easy in any country. I passed min in Saudi and I ve just made it. In Abu dhabi I failed the first round and passed the second time.
@@Sterfillah I’m not talking about the exam itself but the difficulty of getting a seat to write the exam,I have friends that graduated in 2018/2019 who are still waiting to write even today
Don’t ever take care of a man! Even if he is your husband don’t ever give him lump sums of money… men are the biggest opportunists. Also don’t marry in COP because such men will benefit from your hard work… imagine having to pay spousal support for a man that faked his whole life just to benefit from you. Thank you guys for keeping such stories alive for us to learn ♥️.
@@lwazylwazi5042 if you listen to her story nicely she does say not all men are monsters, and that her father is an example of a good man, so don't come here with noonjoo tendencies, this is serious stuff
I’m Congolese and I know this story very well , it went viral in DRC , the pastor that the guy married was bullied worldwide to the point where she was off social media for months . Funny thing is before the wedding another pastor gave her a message from God saying “ I see you trying to force your foot into a shoe that isn’t yours and isn’t your size” then a few months later this scandal happened.
Hahaha, that prophets has some lines 👌. But yes you cannot take from someone and expect to not suffer or lose something you love or be negatively affected by something.
Unfortunately as women we must keep our wallets and money to ourselves because these "love/relationship" scams are happening all over the world! Women are being taken for a ride, one heart at a time!
@@lesegot8222 TRUE! I used to work at the Medical and Dental Board at the HPCSA, there were sooooooooo many cases of fake doctors who ruined so many people's lives!
My mom also got scammed by a Congolese guy. He married her and he scammed her for some years then he disappeared, when things got really bad financially. In terms of divorce the only thing they could do was advertise on the newspaper for a number of months for him to keep contact, fortunately he didn’t respond to the paper and that’s how she got automatically divorced.
This guy didn't just scam lesego he scammed the whole country. Our tax money guys! His salary waa our tax money. He scammed us all 😭😭😭 this guy scammed me
THAT IS FREAKING SCARY!!!!!!! , why are people’s qualifications not checked. Imagine someone pretending to be a doctor and putting peoples lives at risk!!!!! 😳😳😳😳
This show how South Africa is bad on researching people's credentials we had one incident here in Mpumalanga It's another qualified doctor who actually realise this doctors was fake he had no clue with medical terms what so ever, he was caught after 2years full of practising
A month or 2 I listened to a lady at Metrofm (Ask a Man) and she experienced the same thing. Lucky for her Metrofm contacted a lawyer and the lawyer said she is going to help her to divorce without him being there. Reason being lawyers deal with these cases where foreigners marry SA woman to scam or get citizenship. So the lawyer can apply in the court of law to void the marriage and his citizenship without him being there and you get your decree.
Yes a divorce can happen without the person being divorced knowing, the divorce will be announced in the papers if the divorcee never sees it within the a stipulated I think then it is deemed final (assumption).
@@walkwithorr Good Idea yes. I remember. Lesego must do that and claim malicious desertion. He will be ashamed to present himself in court here. I know a few South African women stuck with marriages to people they never met and 20yrs on they are frustrated
She Is a strong woman ... it's evident from how she was conducting her self....she picked herself up...May God grant her more years to see her daughter grow....
I remember the story of this lady being interviewed by a lady from UK if I am not mistaken. This is so heart breaking 💔💔. I always share her story to people around me.
@@lesegot8222 God bless and strengthen you ses❤️. Your intention where always good while his where evil but he will reap the fruits of his labour at the end. I hope he repent.
I wonder if you can dissolve a marriage on the grounds of fraud in SA. She has so much proof, that process should even be achievable without the wrong partner. This is so traumatic.
Nka screama gore! I commend this woman for being so positive about this whole thing even though it was so recent. Wow I could never! I hope South African authorities arrest this man, he's a danger to woman!!
@@lesegot8222 I hope you continue healing with your daughter. Your strength and courage is admirable and you are helping so many people by speaking out 💗🤍
A whole husband! Imagine! And also, if it can take up to 8 years for a man to scam you then it makes it even more hard to say that people that are desperate get scamed.
All health care professionals practicing In South Africa are *supposed to be* registered with a regulatory board. 1. HPCSA =all health care professionals and students except nurses and Pharmacists 2. SAPC= all pharmacists and pharmacy students 3.SANC =All nurses and students Their register is open to the public. You can search someone's name to be sure at what capacity are they practicing and if they are registered. You can also lay complaints on their websites
@ A.J Mkansi while this is in place for the honest professionals, the fake people and the recruiting agents do not care about it as long as they are all getting money. Our Artificial Intelligence system is so poorly managed, not up to date and unfortunately bribery is the biggest fall. Cause I know if you went to any country in Europe, Middle East or Asia and even in some African countries - to secure a job the company will require attested certificates which are later attested by their representative embassy after. So the chances of faking qualifications is slim. On the other hand HPCSA knows very well about the syndicate going on about these fake DR's but they are sitting on their asses instead of updating the system in hospitals for new medical Dr's to ensure no one gets into their payroll as a medical Dr without being verified. Everyday we hear of these medical DR's but what are they doing to minimize or close down on these scammers. *SIC* government/ politicians.
@@annelisaknox811 that's very true. The least we can do at the moment is to double check if we have a chance to . Our systems make it so easy for scammers to succeed
@@benzito4894 "simping", using big words I see. It's funny how you play a psycho analyst when you've completely missed the mark. I'm not sure how it's screwing you on all fours that I'm "simping". If there's a person who has something wrong, check the mirror!
Paying Lobola is nothing compared to what he will gain afterwards. Family business it is because why would they block u knowing u have their grand daughter 🤔
Pitty they toy with people's feelings and still hide behind Christianity. There's now innocent child in this. I've shared flats with Congolis and I learned that the ones who just drink beer and party are good ones but the ones who wear LV and Gucci and never miss a Sunday service are actually selfish and scammers and living fake life
I keep on saying if this is how a person looks if they don’t bekezel then honey I ain’t bekezeling on any grounds...Owamie is now more radiant,full of life and very pretty❤️
I remember this, I listen to her and I was man can play us and blindfolded us not to see the red flags, I'm glad to see her in a good space, God will continue blessing you gorgeous ❤
I honestly don't even think that all those people where his family, this is a syndicate thing. They are making money. That woman could be not his real mother or those sisters who blocked you. Even the pastor, you will find she knows you from long time, she could be the real partner to that guy from long time.
I think she has healed now. If you follow her, you would see how broken she was.. Fortunately she had all the support, even from other Congolese You Tubers. She is really healed now.
South Africa is slowly becoming a joke💔,how can a person work without proper qualification verification ?😡surely he is not the only one who is benefiting from our government while we suffer unemployment 😭
As fas as I know for Drs if you qualifief outside SA you have to write an exam or something like that from a SAn body. Most countries do that, before they accept a foreigner in their professional stream, even CAs use the same principle. This is a wonder of its own.
Lesego you're a powerful woman whatever happens God has allow you to go through because your story is going to help a lot of people may God continue to favor you
I am Congolese person and fill so sad about the story and when look at your face it like you’re talking about someone else’s story and I will love ❤️ to read the book 📖 to the end... we all different
This woman is a good person. Life happens and we should just move on with it. This is not a matter of nationality. People lie and take advantage of others regardless of race, nationality, gender, etc.
If he came to South Africa to get Citizenship by marrying a South African, then he may have had a woman back in his country whom he promised to come back to after he gets the Citizenship for them two to both be able to relocate to South Africa. That's what they do all the time!
@@lesegot8222 , very true, I went through that, and it took me a long time to get back up, that experienced put me off man and dating, I made a conscious decision to remain single forever and I have to say I'm very happily single, 15 years and still going strong!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just wish all woman could get to read your book or at least follow her story, I have been following from the time he got married, and when he wife was really really vulnerable and hurt, she is now much stronger and doing a great job for all woman across the world, but man must also learn something here, I salute her💕💯
Looking at Lesego now I am so grateful God is healing her, the difference is obvious from the time when she first came out with her story. Lesego God is healing and strengthening you everyday.
Thank you so much Owami for your good work! I support this awareness and I will definitely sign the petition! Let’s keep this going and save our sisters
Whatever the enemy meant for evil, God will use it for your own good Lesego and He'll restore hundred folds whatever the enemy has stolen. No victory without a story Sis, your story will definitely save many of us from these scammers and open more doors for you. ❤️❤️❤️❤️You're so beautiful and God's glory is still over you 💖💖💖
The trick part is they will date you,treat you so well and you fall for them hard looking at where you come from in previous relationship. Some of us got lucky cause we are CA's and own companies as a result when crap feels en look too good to be true we envistigate which is what ended 2 Congolese Relatiinship . 1 with a So called Dr Erick and another one a Diamond polisher . But I must tell you it does not End with Congolese Man. When I thought I was done there came along A Ugandan Man trying pull same scam in a form of a cult where I need to give R500K for our relationship to be blessed so we can move to next level of relationship. As I said from the beginning I'm an Accountant so me en taking out money for a liability NOT Same what's up group. In conclusion If one wants to kill a relationship between us ,just mention money that needs to come out of me .
Yey background check Ninja. We call my niece our PI because whenever someone in our circle get into a new relationship we send her to investigate. And trust me 8 out 10 we get the results. And in my opinion I think all these african brothers see opportunity before love and if you are lucky enough love will take over. Even with these SA celebrities they might be consumed with flashy lifestyles these brothers are offering but bottom line is they are there for something and love just ain't 1st priority. My opinion Ninjas
African brothers always hv an ulterior motive that’s why I was worried about Owami wen she took money from that Pastor.if not money they want from u it’s a favor Or theyl use u as a ticket(ladder) to get ahead .. THEY GET SO DEFENSIVE N SAY WE R XENOPHOBIC THE MINUTE WE HIGHLIGHT SUCH. Only a few hv good intentions. My sister got scammed aswel so I know wt I’m talking about
Owami my Ninja, thank you for creating awareness. Not to name anyone but ladies around Midrand - Carlswald, Kyalami, Crowthorne, Waterfall and the likes areas, please be careful of a Congolese guy. Tall dark, handsome, charming. He creates different versions of stories “minerals being held at the border” his cellphone number ends with 8443. Unfortunately we can use people’s names. A lot of women around midrand are victims of this scammer. There are different versions of his story. PLEASE PLEASE, be careful ninjas ❤️
@@aliciamomat7963 to be honest it didn't make the news because he may not be as bad as the current pastors on trial right now in SA. And this is controversial but it would be just another GBV related incident here.
l think even sometimes they can marry you with a clean page then they can start their shenanigans while in the marriage, l have never been married before but l would be happier living with a lion than man, they lie through their teeth no matter how good you can be to them. No man in your life you have a perfact piece of mind. Love is fraud these days.
@@lesegot8222 A huge one cc🤣🤣 as woman we go into marriages with intentions of building homes yet the man goes in with a mind of thinking how the can get rid of us.🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 dead. The way you put it is funny. Yes its true, a Covert Narcissist will put his best foot forward during dating and after marriage you see a monster.
@@WNdaba Honestly dear these days trust nobody with your life it does not matter which tribe, nationality they are they are out to get you remember it can take a man 10 years to persuade you to be his one and only queen once you are in it can take him one single day to get rid of you. Better waste your time progressing in your life love/ relationships are the only reason why depressin, bloodpressure, heart disease, stis are so high 🤣🤣🤣🤣 trust yourself
Scammers present a perfect person because its all an act. They have done so much bad that they dont even have a conscience anymore. How do you enter a hospital filled with sick people, people on their death beds and feel nothing?
Before an Agency employs u there has to be thorough checks done by the Medical Council and the Agency has to then verify if someone is fully registered with the Nursing or Medical Council and if your Certificates are not in English to follow a process before they work otherwise that will mean anyone can just lie and put People s lives at risks 😥😥
They don't make friends with their brothers for protection .They are protecting them to what they going to do so they talk to them.private and make sure you don't meet or know who exactly the friends are
Very interesting and enlightening discussion. It would be good to see more of these as this is one of the major issues in this country. Some people are even scammed in Ponzi schemes where they lose everything.
Lesego sister of my heart, I'm so glad to see you again. I met you at Solomons Temple n yo mishap broke my heart. I thank God, you look so good n so up n making it in life. The Lord is really Good man. I'm all ears, share your story again. With lots of LOVE to you n your strong daughter. Your tone is still the same, hey.
tukko talks in Kenya also talks about nigerian scammers and they tell their stories without being scared of being labeled xeno...south africans we are always so apologetic.
@@lesegot8222 My stories are vast and wide with scam like stories. My boyfriend married a side chick which makes you wonder was I the side chick, my other boyfriends "best friend " confronted me about being with him like she was his wife and the latest one, I found his roommates work name badge next to his bed post. His roommate happen to be a nurse who travels. Not to mention that roommates pictures were all over the house... That luck has not been upon me and I am glad if it misses me.
Lesego if you were married COP have you checked if you can change this at least to protect yourself since you mentioned that you could not initiate a divorce.
Another thing don’t share what your qualifications and job you are doing. Better say you into farming or sell clothes door to door and see if he will still persist with the relationship 😆
Thanks Ninja for bringing Lesego. Am sure a lot more women who have been hurt by such fake men will come out and share. I deserve the book as i was one of the Ninjas who suggested you interview her📔😛
@@lesegot8222 May God continue to strengthen you. When i saw your first interview with Solomon you were so broken. Look at you now✊✊You fought and soldiering om. Continue speaking and enlightening others. 🙏🙏
I love your vibe Owamie I love how you're handling this. We just need more cameras for those angles but shibobo you killed it you're patient allowing her to talk 😍💕♥️
i was speaking to this beautiful handsome Congolese man he started asking money from me that's where I saw that this guy is trying to scam me then i block him thank Owamie for this lesson we have to be very careful.
True. Any man who starts asking for money, airtime, petrol.... Bad news. Just run. I tell them outright, I'm not subsidising my hard earned money meant for my kids, for you!
This African guys most of the time respect their women from their country more then us South Africa that what I’ve heard they love their country too much their use us South African women we in trouble guys
Owami this is the reason why I was worried wen u took money from that Pastor.anyway God bless u for creating awareness.the sad part is wenever we complain abt such , fellow Africans say we xenophobic. We never woke up n say we let’s talk bad about fellow Africans.u hv no idea the hate some fellow Africans hv for South Africans if u meet them Abroad. The reason is they don’t want us to complain wen we r robbed n the media always report stories wrong. Bullies.South African justice system is a joke also .my csta also got scammed years bak. Ppl should stop saying SAnz r lazy atleast they don’t scam ppl
True...people dont want women to say anything...are we supposed to die inside alone from depression?im sure if i didnt open up to share with friends,familly and everyone..i would be dead by now..just from keeping things inside,its also sad that some women feel embarrassed when they've been divorced..im thankful,ive been saved from that deceiver and there's nothing to be ashamed or embarrased of!
@@lesegot8222 such a string woman u r ,I admire your strength, its the God in you .maybe this is your purpose in life to help ppl .sometimes , for us to find our purpose hv to go through storms
Lesego needs to heal. Healing starts with forgiveness. Forgiveness is so that God can step in in your favor. Forgive him and you will heal, God is not sleeping.
Feelings are involuntary, nobody chooses to love/hate/be jealous/be sad or happy .... yes it's possible to act them out ,but the inner feeling is impossible to just switch on/off .... True forgivenss stems from the inner feeling not actions ... i hate it when people keep saying forgive ,as of forgiveness is a choice
@@olethabethe4538 No-one can deny another's experience, we cant deny Lesego's feelings and journey. However, Forgiveness is a choice.!!! It makes YOU flourish in ways YOU never imagined. Understanding the Principle of Forgiveness is important to learn. Forgetting is impossible. So there's no such a thing as forgive and forget, you have a functional mind how can u forget? You just forgive.
Guys I also dated a guy that I suspect was a scammer. He was a Nigerian, didn't like other Nigerian guys too claiming that they were "jealous". He had money, I mean money. I didn't even know what he did for a living, at first he said he had a boutique shop that I ve never seen, from a boutique shop to a music producer but I ve never met any artist that he used to work with. He never scammed me but from time to time I was so curious of where does he get money. But later on I found out that he was married to another South African lady who stayed in Joburg with their child. I broke up with him because I felt bad when I discovered that he was married. I was already in it, getting everything I could ever ask for, we spent most of our weekends in hotels, sometimes he would want to be alone for "work", he was always on his laptop, travels a lot outside the country. One December holidays he booked us tickets to the UK and we couldn't go cause someone in his family died so he ended up going "home" and I went to a holiday in Durban alone, a holiday that he arranged. I still try to figure out even today how did he made his money😱
Yoh,i think us women we need to be smart,the thing is when money is coming in,we dont dont question the source of that money,cause you're happy at a moment,when your man is taking care of you but its bad if that money came from shaddy deals and you knew nothing about it,i still feel bad that "my scammer" took money from another woman trying to impress me
@@lesegot8222 imagine money that those women worked hard for. Its really true we don't ask the source of money we just get carried away but they also lie Lesego and Love will blind you and make you think stupid. The part were you said "he was strict" they all act like that and the morw they act strict it makes you think "this is a decent man". Anyway in life the bad you do will follow you and one day you ll pay for it. They don't know that inyembezi aziwi phantsi its bad luck that they create for themselves. Im very glad that I came out of that relationship. It wasn't easy, I was not in a good space, I was not even working so he was there for me financially. Sometimes I think I was in it for money but when I look back I realize I was fortunate to have came out of it in full pieces 🤭. Im glad that you found peace Lesego, your message need to be heard by many of us "young women" here in South Africa. ❤️
Owamie, you deserve to be a talk show host. You carried this interview so well. You have grown so much with interviews. You no longer interrupt your guests, you ask sharp - important questions, you listen , you engage. I love it for you. This is growth on so many levels . Oh by the way, the setup is beautiful, so elegant and sophisticated.
Our Ninja
Our life saver 🤞❤️
True. I love it for her as well., 😍😍😍😍😍
Proud of her
Yep! I support this statement 100%. There has been so much growth, we definetly need to see you more in this light-as a talk show host. This episode was amazing, I didn't even notice how long it was.
I don't want the book for free, I'm buying it.
What’s actually sad is that there are many people with legit credentials and qualifications who aren’t getting any jobs but they are out here giving jobs to people who are fake. Its so disappointing
True..Kate,,its bad and not fair
Very true when we protest we are called xenophobic 💔
True,HPCSA is making it so difficult for South African who studied abroad
@@gracious2869 no they are not making it difficult. In any country you do your medical license and they are not easy in any country. I passed min in Saudi and I ve just made it. In Abu dhabi I failed the first round and passed the second time.
@@Sterfillah I’m not talking about the exam itself but the difficulty of getting a seat to write the exam,I have friends that graduated in 2018/2019 who are still waiting to write even today
Don’t ever take care of a man! Even if he is your husband don’t ever give him lump sums of money… men are the biggest opportunists. Also don’t marry in COP because such men will benefit from your hard work… imagine having to pay spousal support for a man that faked his whole life just to benefit from you. Thank you guys for keeping such stories alive for us to learn ♥️.
A Narcissist and Con Man Husband can be so manipulative...they make you feel bad if you dont help them
Some men stop generalizing
@@lwazylwazi5042 Really?
@@lwazylwazi5042 if you listen to her story nicely she does say not all men are monsters, and that her father is an example of a good man, so don't come here with noonjoo tendencies, this is serious stuff
@@silindilembatha2585 I was responding to this comment not the video wena msoonwakho
I’m Congolese and I know this story very well , it went viral in DRC , the pastor that the guy married was bullied worldwide to the point where she was off social media for months . Funny thing is before the wedding another pastor gave her a message from God saying “ I see you trying to force your foot into a shoe that isn’t yours and isn’t your size” then a few months later this scandal happened.
She is brave!
Are they still married? 👀
Wow.....so they are still married?
I saw the story this lady was literally crying
@@keabetswemilly2626 unfortunately yes , they are ... there’s no way out now 😫🥴
Hahaha, that prophets has some lines 👌. But yes you cannot take from someone and expect to not suffer or lose something you love or be negatively affected by something.
Unfortunately as women we must keep our wallets and money to ourselves because these "love/relationship" scams are happening all over the world! Women are being taken for a ride, one heart at a time!
All over the world Hun, the boldness of scammers...🤮🤮🤮🤮
Am from Zimbabwe and went through the same with a Congolese I also have a daughter and he has never done anything for her.
This man should be found and be arrested for lying to the authorities for saying he's a Dr whilst he's not
True..but apparently theres a lot of fake doctors in SA...the police were not shocked when i reported him!
@@lesegot8222 imagine going to give birth and a fake Dr does a C-section 😭😭😭😭😭 safa
@@lesegot8222 I am glad you exposed him sis
We have heartless politicians who only care for their pockets. It is so frustrating.
@@lesegot8222 TRUE! I used to work at the Medical and Dental Board at the HPCSA, there were sooooooooo many cases of fake doctors who ruined so many people's lives!
Ladies, let's ask God for discernment 🙏🙏
Hey,I second you 1million percent.Prayer is very powerful. Thank you for your words.Amen.
@@faithkutumela8595 Welcome
We need discernment even with our own South African brothers.
As a Congolese who grew up in SA this breaks my heart no woman deserves to go through this🙁🙁🙁
My mom also got scammed by a Congolese guy. He married her and he scammed her for some years then he disappeared, when things got really bad financially. In terms of divorce the only thing they could do was advertise on the newspaper for a number of months for him to keep contact, fortunately he didn’t respond to the paper and that’s how she got automatically divorced.
Hey queen 👑
You’re so pretty 😍
This guy didn't just scam lesego he scammed the whole country. Our tax money guys! His salary waa our tax money. He scammed us all 😭😭😭 this guy scammed me
Yep..he scammed the country..
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣oh WOW this is personal
@@letetemuhluri5966 😢😢🥺🥺 he scammed me! It’s very personal 😂😂😂😂
@@PearlMrsP askies🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣really sorry😘
THAT IS FREAKING SCARY!!!!!!! , why are people’s qualifications not checked. Imagine someone pretending to be a doctor and putting peoples lives at risk!!!!! 😳😳😳😳
This show how South Africa is bad on researching people's credentials we had one incident here in Mpumalanga
It's another qualified doctor who actually realise this doctors was fake he had no clue with medical terms what so ever, he was caught after 2years full of practising
@Nonchalant M Nxa! I’m so tired of the ANC & allowing this nonsense.
@Nonchalant M Ya we need to vote the ANC out.
A month or 2 I listened to a lady at Metrofm (Ask a Man) and she experienced the same thing. Lucky for her Metrofm contacted a lawyer and the lawyer said she is going to help her to divorce without him being there. Reason being lawyers deal with these cases where foreigners marry SA woman to scam or get citizenship. So the lawyer can apply in the court of law to void the marriage and his citizenship without him being there and you get your decree.
Yes a divorce can happen without the person being divorced knowing, the divorce will be announced in the papers if the divorcee never sees it within the a stipulated I think then it is deemed final (assumption).
I remember
@@walkwithorr
Good Idea yes. I remember.
Lesego must do that and claim malicious desertion.
He will be ashamed to present himself in court here. I know a few South African women stuck with marriages to people they never met and 20yrs on they are frustrated
She Is a strong woman ... it's evident from how she was conducting her self....she picked herself up...May God grant her more years to see her daughter grow....
Thanks Khutso😍...thats what i pray for daily.."May God grant me more years to see my daugther grow"🙌
He was straight out of Catch Me If You Can.
I remember the story of this lady being interviewed by a lady from UK if I am not mistaken. This is so heart breaking 💔💔. I always share her story to people around me.
Yep..Benita from UK also shared it..
@@lesegot8222 God bless and strengthen you ses❤️. Your intention where always good while his where evil but he will reap the fruits of his labour at the end. I hope he repent.
Heard this story from Uncle Solomon, so sad
@@pheladinare2876 I'm glad she healed that time she was teared apart shame
I firdt saw her interview with Solomon. So heartbreaking,8 years of pretence, and practicing as a fake surgeon, no gulit🙄
I wonder if you can dissolve a marriage on the grounds of fraud in SA. She has so much proof, that process should even be achievable without the wrong partner.
This is so traumatic.
They really need to change the law especially since there is so many love scams out here. The law needs to be updated.
I wonder too.
@N please we need to find a way to add fraud on the list so people can be freed
@@beewest5704 yes true
@N but annulment should include fraud (false circusmtances) ...no?
Thats why being single is the healthiest thing No drama some man are evil
Eish Nonny..its better than being scammed..😢
@@lesegot8222 But l am pleased you were left alive, at times they kill or give you disease and run away.
That's why I'm still single after 40yrs😀😀😀
Nka screama gore! I commend this woman for being so positive about this whole thing even though it was so recent. Wow I could never! I hope South African authorities arrest this man, he's a danger to woman!!
Thanks Mela,but it was very hard in the beginning,i wouldnt stop crying...but by the Grace of God,everyday i feel much better
@@lesegot8222 I hope you continue healing with your daughter. Your strength and courage is admirable and you are helping so many people by speaking out 💗🤍
@@melaluxe8195 😍
Im just super weary of African men. I honestly cant. Being single isway better than all this stress...
Dont be scared to love or be loved..you might be lucky..
Eish that's really difficult since u in Africa if u date out of the continent..maybe Europe or Asia
Babygirl, you should do background checks on these men honestly.
Hey pretty 😍
You’re so beautiful
A whole husband! Imagine! And also, if it can take up to 8 years for a man to scam you then it makes it even more hard to say that people that are desperate get scamed.
Brilliant interview, I love how chilled and just two woman sharing a conversation felt like I was in the room with u guys very impressive
Re a leboga..Gabo
All health care professionals practicing In South Africa are *supposed to be* registered with a regulatory board.
1. HPCSA =all health care professionals and students except nurses and Pharmacists
2. SAPC= all pharmacists and pharmacy students
3.SANC =All nurses and students
Their register is open to the public. You can search someone's name to be sure at what capacity are they practicing and if they are registered. You can also lay complaints on their websites
@ A.J Mkansi while this is in place for the honest professionals, the fake people and the recruiting agents do not care about it as long as they are all getting money. Our Artificial Intelligence system is so poorly managed, not up to date and unfortunately bribery is the biggest fall. Cause I know if you went to any country in Europe, Middle East or Asia and even in some African countries - to secure a job the company will require attested certificates which are later attested by their representative embassy after. So the chances of faking qualifications is slim. On the other hand HPCSA knows very well about the syndicate going on about these fake DR's but they are sitting on their asses instead of updating the system in hospitals for new medical Dr's to ensure no one gets into their payroll as a medical Dr without being verified. Everyday we hear of these medical DR's but what are they doing to minimize or close down on these scammers. *SIC* government/ politicians.
@@annelisaknox811 that's very true. The least we can do at the moment is to double check if we have a chance to .
Our systems make it so easy for scammers to succeed
You are a very good interviewer. Minimal disruptions. I see a talk or radio show on the cards. Keep excelling
Hahaha..she was very mindful to not talk too much...😁im so proud of her and i wish her all the best
I was thinking the same thing
Beautiful
Yep on point especially for someone with a bubbly personality
Owamie, get a Talk Show sis, ngeke this was awesome.
❤️
Dude stop with the simping, wat the hell is wrong with you
@@benzito4894 "simping", using big words I see. It's funny how you play a psycho analyst when you've completely missed the mark. I'm not sure how it's screwing you on all fours that I'm "simping". If there's a person who has something wrong, check the mirror!
Paying Lobola is nothing compared to what he will gain afterwards. Family business it is because why would they block u knowing u have their grand daughter 🤔
They thinking for their future...its a family business...
True, wicked people they are!!!!!
Pitty they toy with people's feelings and still hide behind Christianity. There's now innocent child in this. I've shared flats with Congolis and I learned that the ones who just drink beer and party are good ones but the ones who wear LV and Gucci and never miss a Sunday service are actually selfish and scammers and living fake life
@@roser5259 Yoh..."they" love Fake LV and Gucci🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
tjo guys i cant get over how Owamie is sooooo freaken beautiful
Ya she's a beauty xem😍
😁😁😁 make me blush won't you🥰
I keep on saying if this is how a person looks if they don’t bekezel then honey I ain’t bekezeling on any grounds...Owamie is now more radiant,full of life and very pretty❤️
@@blackwoman_015 😁😁😁 bekezel please be4 bathi I incourag divorce 😅🤣
@@sazi7128 you so right, she was beautiful even before just manje she's moving in a different direction Joe, yoh Wenza ka khulu ama rivithi
I remember this, I listen to her and I was man can play us and blindfolded us not to see the red flags, I'm glad to see her in a good space, God will continue blessing you gorgeous ❤
Thanks honey..God bless you too
I honestly don't even think that all those people where his family, this is a syndicate thing. They are making money. That woman could be not his real mother or those sisters who blocked you. Even the pastor, you will find she knows you from long time, she could be the real partner to that guy from long time.
Yoh 💔💔💔💔 I can’t believe how fresh it still is .... maybe laughing is also a coping mechanism ... I wish you and your daughter well sisi
yeah..laughing about it helps not to cry about it...but i do cry sometimes "in the middle of the night"---alone...lol
I think she has healed now. If you follow her, you would see how broken she was.. Fortunately she had all the support, even from other Congolese You Tubers. She is really healed now.
@@pba5459 Yep..they gave me so much care..and support..i really appreciated it😍
If there's one thing foreign people can fake, is an integrity
A senior surgeon? A senior surgeon? No man the SA government gives Zero about us!
These politicians went to crime schools when they were in exile thats why they are busy repayinv their criminal friends at the expense of us citizens.
South Africa is slowly becoming a joke💔,how can a person work without proper qualification verification ?😡surely he is not the only one who is benefiting from our government while we suffer unemployment 😭
Adilaide Adilaide and working as a Dr....imagine the risks to people's lives, iyho....very scary
As fas as I know for Drs if you qualifief outside SA you have to write an exam or something like that from a SAn body. Most countries do that, before they accept a foreigner in their professional stream, even CAs use the same principle. This is a wonder of its own.
@@walkwithorr this is SA they will bribe their way through.
They can, some of them can even hack onto Universities systems and list themselves as graduates. 😂😂😂
It's very disappointing to even learn that this guy held a management with fake qualifications and the employer didn't even do the background check!
Lesego you're a powerful woman whatever happens God has allow you to go through because your story is going to help a lot of people may God continue to favor you
I am Congolese person and fill so sad about the story and when look at your face it like you’re talking about someone else’s story and I will love ❤️ to read the book 📖 to the end... we all different
This woman is a good person. Life happens and we should just move on with it. This is not a matter of nationality. People lie and take advantage of others regardless of race, nationality, gender, etc.
I never knew Congolese men were this smart to scam like this. But this is beyond smart. This is wickedness
Yes we only thought it's Nigerias only
lol Ghanaian men are the same
The pastor's wife is very stupid to block another woman who is trying to give her help unless she is a scammer too
I think the pastor is a scammer
How did they meet? When did they date?
@@Mpho503 l think his family could have found him a wife from his home and would date over the phone.
@@Mpho503 i asked myself that question because 2020 was lock down,people couldnt travel in and out of the country
If he came to South Africa to get Citizenship by marrying a South African, then he may have had a woman back in his country whom he promised to come back to after he gets the Citizenship for them two to both be able to relocate to South Africa. That's what they do all the time!
This is painful. Lord help us as women. Where are decent men?
This story and my own personal experience makes me wanna hide in my house forever
share Lorraine...will support you,i actually received so much support from people all over the world..including from Congo
Askies babe, it seems like majority of well to do women attract scammers.
@@lesegot8222 hey pretty
You’re so beautiful 😻
I’ll be blessed to have a beautiful woman like you
Don't feel ashamed, you ever asked him to scam you.
Ninja thank you for organizing this and always being honest with your experiences, we are learning so much from you. Keep going Queen🌻🤍
Yep..i was also thankful when Ninja said she wanted to share my story on her channel to educate other ladies out there..
@@lesegot8222 thank you for sharing your story Sego.
Well done ladies, Lesego you are healed, I remember your story and how broken hearted you were, it was so sad. I m happy to see you laughing this out
This is so enlightening Owamie ,keep it up.Ladies let's be cautious not everyone has good intensions
Yeah,some people are out to destroy!
@@lesegot8222 , very true, I went through that, and it took me a long time to get back up, that experienced put me off man and dating, I made a conscious decision to remain single forever and I have to say I'm very happily single, 15 years and still going strong!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lesego is so beautiful, I bet so many men are out there admiring that beauty.
Stay strong sisi we love u
Thanks Sisi for your support..i love you too
Owamie’s confidence is in another level now Woow!👏👏👏.Prayers up for Lesogo 🥺🙏🙏🙏
As a reader I love that you’re doing this🤩 I hope you introduce more African writers through your channel!
Ladies, you are doing the Lords work 🤞🏽
I just wish all woman could get to read your book or at least follow her story, I have been following from the time he got married, and when he wife was really really vulnerable and hurt, she is now much stronger and doing a great job for all woman across the world, but man must also learn something here, I salute her💕💯
Looking at Lesego now I am so grateful God is healing her, the difference is obvious from the time when she first came out with her story. Lesego God is healing and strengthening you everyday.
Yes girl..Amen to that...yoh,that time i even lost weight
May God restore all you lost
Thank you so much Owami for your good work! I support this awareness and I will definitely sign the petition! Let’s keep this going and save our sisters
Yes,lets do it..i'll ask Owami to really do it..lets support her and share our stories ladies..
@@lesegot8222 indeed. Thank you for sharing your story. It will help a lot of women
Sending love to Lesego and her daughter. You are such a pleasant lady. God will heal you and your daughter. Thank you for sharing your story.
Whatever the enemy meant for evil, God will use it for your own good Lesego and He'll restore hundred folds whatever the enemy has stolen. No victory without a story Sis, your story will definitely save many of us from these scammers and open more doors for you. ❤️❤️❤️❤️You're so beautiful and God's glory is still over you 💖💖💖
Thanks Mpho...you look beautiful too..God bless you too dear..
@@lesegot8222 I receive, thank you, 👏🏾
Thank you Owami & Lesego . You’ve just opened up my eyes and make me very woke
Im glad you woke now dear..
The trick part is they will date you,treat you so well and you fall for them hard looking at where you come from in previous relationship. Some of us got lucky cause we are CA's and own companies as a result when crap feels en look too good to be true we envistigate which is what ended 2 Congolese Relatiinship . 1 with a So called Dr Erick and another one a Diamond polisher .
But I must tell you it does not End with Congolese Man. When I thought I was done there came along A Ugandan Man trying pull same scam in a form of a cult where I need to give R500K for our relationship to be blessed so we can move to next level of relationship. As I said from the beginning I'm an Accountant so me en taking out money for a liability NOT Same what's up group.
In conclusion If one wants to kill a relationship between us ,just mention money that needs to come out of me .
Both ladies looking so beautiful
Thanks sweetie😍
Why do women give men money🤷🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️
Yey background check Ninja. We call my niece our PI because whenever someone in our circle get into a new relationship we send her to investigate. And trust me 8 out 10 we get the results. And in my opinion I think all these african brothers see opportunity before love and if you are lucky enough love will take over. Even with these SA celebrities they might be consumed with flashy lifestyles these brothers are offering but bottom line is they are there for something and love just ain't 1st priority. My opinion Ninjas
I'll hire a PI too for my next bae😖
@@lesegot8222 Hi Lesego, thanks for sharing your story and I'm truly sorry you had to go through this.
true sis, l always say these foreigner guys are here in SA for work not for love but our sisters don't wanna listen.
True hey, there is a narrative out there that there is money here and apparently us we are sleeping here.
African brothers always hv an ulterior motive that’s why I was worried about Owami wen she took money from that Pastor.if not money they want from u it’s a favor Or theyl use u as a ticket(ladder) to get ahead .. THEY GET SO DEFENSIVE N SAY WE R XENOPHOBIC THE MINUTE WE HIGHLIGHT SUCH. Only a few hv good intentions. My sister got scammed aswel so I know wt I’m talking about
I love the fact that she wrote a book ! That must have healed her in a way. Brilliant lesson for me.
Owamies reactions 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i love you sis Owamie
What a strong woman. Thanks for telling us your story. I,ll buy your book.
I am binge watching your videos about scammers. I am convinced i am scared of marriage.
Wow I gotta say Owamie is asking very good questions here…I am shooketh 🤩
Well done! ⭐️
She is good👌
She ate this up Hey. I'm so excited for her.
Honestly 🤞🏿
You need to expose these Forex traders
It's sad but we shall overcome. Scammers or divorce God is above all. Keep going girls. You look🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks babes..
Owami my Ninja, thank you for creating awareness. Not to name anyone but ladies around Midrand - Carlswald, Kyalami, Crowthorne, Waterfall and the likes areas, please be careful of a Congolese guy. Tall dark, handsome, charming. He creates different versions of stories “minerals being held at the border” his cellphone number ends with 8443. Unfortunately we can use people’s names. A lot of women around midrand are victims of this scammer. There are different versions of his story. PLEASE PLEASE, be careful ninjas ❤️
The family was really working together sham yhooo
Yep..family was in it...
It's strange, how the whole francophone countries knew about it and it's was trending for months, but here in south Africa it didn't
It's the language barrier, we will know what is going on in English speaking countries before the French one.
i think it trended in those countries cause they know "the pastor/gospel singer"
@@SabzKhumalo lesego is south African dude that's why it's strange
@@lesegot8222 yes you are right
@@aliciamomat7963 to be honest it didn't make the news because he may not be as bad as the current pastors on trial right now in SA. And this is controversial but it would be just another GBV related incident here.
l think even sometimes they can marry you with a clean page then they can start their shenanigans while in the marriage, l have never been married before but l would be happier living with a lion than man, they lie through their teeth no matter how good you can be to them. No man in your life you have a perfact piece of mind. Love is fraud these days.
Love is a scam..right??
@@lesegot8222 A huge one cc🤣🤣 as woman we go into marriages with intentions of building homes yet the man goes in with a mind of thinking how the can get rid of us.🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 dead. The way you put it is funny. Yes its true, a Covert Narcissist will put his best foot forward during dating and after marriage you see a monster.
@@WNdaba Honestly dear these days trust nobody with your life it does not matter which tribe, nationality they are they are out to get you remember it can take a man 10 years to persuade you to be his one and only queen once you are in it can take him one single day to get rid of you. Better waste your time progressing in your life love/ relationships are the only reason why depressin, bloodpressure, heart disease, stis are so high 🤣🤣🤣🤣 trust yourself
Scammers present a perfect person because its all an act. They have done so much bad that they dont even have a conscience anymore. How do you enter a hospital filled with sick people, people on their death beds and feel nothing?
they are so bad and selfish,never cares about others
@@fancyleelee1992 Eish...
😀it's a tell-all book...thank you Lesego...I am praying he has the heart to grant you the divorce
I dont trust him to do that..i trust my lawyer to sort this out..
God please protect us from these psychopaths🙈🙈
Bathong Owamie's growth 😪🔥🔥🔥 love from Botswana ❤️🇧🇼
Hello Barati...yeah lets support Owamie😍
@@lesegot8222 word 😊
Before an Agency employs u there has to be thorough checks done by the Medical Council and the Agency has to then verify if someone is fully registered with the Nursing or Medical Council and if your Certificates are not in English to follow a process before they work otherwise that will mean anyone can just lie and put People s lives at risks 😥😥
Ninja let's talk about this...this have to go viral.untill we all woman awear
Most women dont wanna share and some men hated me for sharing ...
They don't make friends with their brothers for protection .They are protecting them to what they going to do so they talk to them.private and make sure you don't meet or know who exactly the friends are
They say..their brothers are jealous of them..hee bathong!
@@lesegot8222 lies they don't want ppl to come for their brothers
Such a beautiful woman 🥺🥺♥️
Thanks Thebe🤗😊
@@lesegot8222 My pleasure ♥️
She's really Beautiful, her and Ayanda Ncwane look alike❤️
She’s gorgeous my gosh.
@@etvscandalfanpage2011 ahahahaha...thanks...
Am here for the first time yasss!!!!! am all ears
Yasss...mamela girl😍
Very interesting and enlightening discussion. It would be good to see more of these as this is one of the major issues in this country. Some people are even scammed in Ponzi schemes where they lose everything.
Lesego sister of my heart, I'm so glad to see you again. I met you at Solomons Temple n yo mishap broke my heart. I thank God, you look so good n so up n making it in life. The Lord is really Good man. I'm all ears, share your story again. With lots of LOVE to you n your strong daughter. Your tone is still the same, hey.
tukko talks in Kenya also talks about nigerian scammers and they tell their stories without being scared of being labeled xeno...south africans we are always so apologetic.
What if the new pastor wive is also in on the scam?
You can never know...🤔
Possible
I am convinced she is
Why everyone is a pastor futhi?
O tla ikutlwa.she blue ticked and blocked her rescuer.
Ohhh the stories I could share..🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ women..we need to not only protect our hearts but our purses as well!!!!
Yep!
What is even worse, is not knowing the child's culture
This is why I will be forever single.
Lol..dont be..maybe you'll be lucky
@@lesegot8222 My stories are vast and wide with scam like stories. My boyfriend married a side chick which makes you wonder was I the side chick, my other boyfriends "best friend " confronted me about being with him like she was his wife and the latest one, I found his roommates work name badge next to his bed post. His roommate happen to be a nurse who travels. Not to mention that roommates pictures were all over the house... That luck has not been upon me and I am glad if it misses me.
@@tarirotaruvinga8166 oh no..im so sorry dear..i hope you feeling better now....you went through hell too😏
@@lesegot8222 Just life lessons. We need to be safe in these streets.
South African women athanda izinto, she was living nicely until things went south. Its a shame look at how beautiful she is
Huh??what point are you making??
True
Lesego you are glowing sis keep it up and congratulations on your book❤️
Thanks Queen..
Lesego if you were married COP have you checked if you can change this at least to protect yourself since you mentioned that you could not initiate a divorce.
Great interview Wamie...Lesego you should also have a French translation of that book.
Yes darling..that's on my to-do list..thanks so much for your support
Owami please do more videos like this...educational nd your interviews skills are perfect nje invite more ppl in channel
Another thing don’t share what your qualifications and job you are doing. Better say you into farming or sell clothes door to door and see if he will still persist with the relationship 😆
Where do we get the book
Thanks Ninja for bringing Lesego. Am sure a lot more women who have been hurt by such fake men will come out and share. I deserve the book as i was one of the Ninjas who suggested you interview her📔😛
You too sweet😍
@@lesegot8222 May God continue to strengthen you. When i saw your first interview with Solomon you were so broken. Look at you now✊✊You fought and soldiering om. Continue speaking and enlightening others. 🙏🙏
I love your vibe Owamie I love how you're handling this. We just need more cameras for those angles but shibobo you killed it you're patient allowing her to talk 😍💕♥️
I'm disappointed in his family for being part of his mess.
its crazy considering that most of them and their children are also in South Africa..
Haibo such shady character traits are genetic, passed down...be careful... These people are shady like their mothers, family members etc.
I have been following Lesego's story form other platforms..you look relaxed and healed now girl, thank God 🥰
I see you Simmy...thanks girl,yes you right..im much better now,thanks.
@@lesegot8222 😅🤣yes gal,I'm so happy for you 🥰😍
i was speaking to this beautiful handsome Congolese man he started asking money from me that's where I saw that this guy is trying to scam me then i block him thank Owamie for this lesson we have to be very careful.
RUN 😂😂😂😂
True. Any man who starts asking for money, airtime, petrol.... Bad news. Just run. I tell them outright, I'm not subsidising my hard earned money meant for my kids, for you!
This African guys most of the time respect their women from their country more then us South Africa that what I’ve heard they love their country too much their use us South African women we in trouble guys
@Xolani Selepe True..i agree..our Authorities have a lot on their plates...they neglect other important stuff..
Owami this is the reason why I was worried wen u took money from that Pastor.anyway God bless u for creating awareness.the sad part is wenever we complain abt such , fellow Africans say we xenophobic. We never woke up n say we let’s talk bad about fellow Africans.u hv no idea the hate some fellow Africans hv for South Africans if u meet them Abroad. The reason is they don’t want us to complain wen we r robbed n the media always report stories wrong. Bullies.South African justice system is a joke also .my csta also got scammed years bak. Ppl should stop saying SAnz r lazy atleast they don’t scam ppl
True...people dont want women to say anything...are we supposed to die inside alone from depression?im sure if i didnt open up to share with friends,familly and everyone..i would be dead by now..just from keeping things inside,its also sad that some women feel embarrassed when they've been divorced..im thankful,ive been saved from that deceiver and there's nothing to be ashamed or embarrased of!
@@lesegot8222 such a string woman u r ,I admire your strength, its the God in you .maybe this is your purpose in life to help ppl .sometimes , for us to find our purpose hv to go through storms
Lesego needs to heal. Healing starts with forgiveness. Forgiveness is so that God can step in in your favor.
Forgive him and you will heal, God is not sleeping.
Feelings are involuntary, nobody chooses to love/hate/be jealous/be sad or happy .... yes it's possible to act them out ,but the inner feeling is impossible to just switch on/off .... True forgivenss stems from the inner feeling not actions ... i hate it when people keep saying forgive ,as of forgiveness is a choice
@@olethabethe4538 No-one can deny another's experience, we cant deny Lesego's feelings and journey.
However, Forgiveness is a choice.!!! It makes YOU flourish in ways YOU never imagined.
Understanding the Principle of Forgiveness is important to learn.
Forgetting is impossible. So there's no such a thing as forgive and forget, you have a functional mind how can u forget?
You just forgive.
who said i havent forgiven him?hahaha...but forgetting?no..i have not forgotten,its still fresh on my mind
Guys I also dated a guy that I suspect was a scammer. He was a Nigerian, didn't like other Nigerian guys too claiming that they were "jealous". He had money, I mean money. I didn't even know what he did for a living, at first he said he had a boutique shop that I ve never seen, from a boutique shop to a music producer but I ve never met any artist that he used to work with. He never scammed me but from time to time I was so curious of where does he get money.
But later on I found out that he was married to another South African lady who stayed in Joburg with their child. I broke up with him because I felt bad when I discovered that he was married. I was already in it, getting everything I could ever ask for, we spent most of our weekends in hotels, sometimes he would want to be alone for "work", he was always on his laptop, travels a lot outside the country. One December holidays he booked us tickets to the UK and we couldn't go cause someone in his family died so he ended up going "home" and I went to a holiday in Durban alone, a holiday that he arranged. I still try to figure out even today how did he made his money😱
Yoh,i think us women we need to be smart,the thing is when money is coming in,we dont dont question the source of that money,cause you're happy at a moment,when your man is taking care of you but its bad if that money came from shaddy deals and you knew nothing about it,i still feel bad that "my scammer" took money from another woman trying to impress me
@@lesegot8222 imagine money that those women worked hard for. Its really true we don't ask the source of money we just get carried away but they also lie Lesego and Love will blind you and make you think stupid. The part were you said "he was strict" they all act like that and the morw they act strict it makes you think "this is a decent man". Anyway in life the bad you do will follow you and one day you ll pay for it. They don't know that inyembezi aziwi phantsi its bad luck that they create for themselves. Im very glad that I came out of that relationship. It wasn't easy, I was not in a good space, I was not even working so he was there for me financially. Sometimes I think I was in it for money but when I look back I realize I was fortunate to have came out of it in full pieces 🤭. Im glad that you found peace Lesego, your message need to be heard by many of us "young women" here in South Africa. ❤️
You do know that it is illegal but still you pretend to not know. Probably a Yahoo boy. Your sixth sense has warned you
Probably drugs
If he was all the time on laptop , chancescare that he was an online scammer , they call it 419 scam in Nigeria