Thank you George for such interesting blogs. My car is a 2012 F20 120d with the N47. I recently followed your blog on removal of the inlet manifold to replace the coolant inlet flange. I have done just on 350 000 kilometres and to my surprise the manifold did not require cleaning. Most of my driving is long distance trips between Johannesburg and my farm in the Free State, a distance of 350 km, which I do more or less once in two weeks. I am rather alarmed about your comment on the timing chain. I service my car myself at 15 000km intervals using only 5w40 pure synthetic oil. I have never had any mechanical failure. I have driven other BM's and Alfas. This is the best car I have had. Sadly, I am about to replace it.
It would have been easier to place them in the front, but it´s not really a fault is just a different design,... the chain can be replaced from underneath the car, no need to take out the engine; that is what BMW service do, they don´t take out the engines.
Very informative video! Thanks! I'm driving one of these, specifically the F10 535d. What I'd like to say if you keep the service intervals at 15k miles, neglect the time needed for the engine oil to warm up and use bad quality oil then don't be surprised when everything will start to fail. My interval is 1year / 6-10k miles. I always let the oil to warm up mid-range of the gauge before I start fooling around. I've never, ever used launch control and I'm using high quality LL04 oil and high quality diesel. Don't make the mistake of using LL01 / cheap diesel or your DPF will die quickly. Especially if you don't do much of a highway daily. Happily hitting 100k miles now with no problems whatsoever.
4:48 just to add some more advice. The high pressure fuel pump needs looking after by using decent fuel and getting a fuel filter change with a service.
Timing chain on my f10 N57 broke at about 100k miles. I'd bought the car at about 80k miles and after the warranty finished I took out private warrant.. as expected the timing chain was NOT covered and cost me the best part of 2k to fix! My previous M57 was absolutely bullet proof. All I ever done was a swirl flap delete and changed the oil breather spongy thing to a vortex type. It lasted me 250k miles. Was still going strong when I sold it. This n57 has given me no end of problems and it's only just reached 120k miles.
The funny thing is that I have a 2010 320d which I bought 5 years ago with 136 000 km and now has 345 000 km . All of those parts that the guy listed already failed .
Mine never failed and I changed my oil every 19k miles on my E60 520d. At 220k miles I decided to change the chain for peace of mind. Now I am on 250k miles and only the turbo was serviced and the water pump and some front suspension parts changed. Going like a clock and still reaching 140mph without any problem. But now in its old age (59 plate), I give it tlc and change the 5w30 oil every 10k. I have now decided to change the auto transmission oil and filter plate before Christmas. ☘️☘️
This video really gave me hope on my recent purchase, 520d with 240.000km. I wasn’t aware of any issue at the time that I bought the car. Then I saw so many people complaining and saying to run away from that engine. I was really sad about that. However the car sounds and fells just great. Now I know what I have to look after. Many thanks for your video.
@@motheongoepe56 I haven’t drive it, because I’m working out. But I changed the timing kit. But I no longer think too much about the issues. People stress a lot (too much).
Yes, everything seems ok until now. But I did just 5.000km since I bought it. I’m planing on getting it remapped within a couple months, and possibly remove the PAF.
@Nice, i just bought a 520D last week it broke down on the highway on my way home from the dealership, towed it back there and they are currently fixing it
I have owned a lot of bmw ,s ,starting with the 1800 ,through to the present X3 ,with the n47 engine .I would recommend anyone with a BMW to listen to George and change the oil every 5000 MILES regardless.don,t do it and you will have a lot of problems apart from the timing chain,the biggest is the camshaft,rockers,valve seals ect .
I have a 2009 E91 318D with the N47. It has now done 105000miles and the chain sound is there. The engine has performed flawless up until now. (with regular oil changes) I'm educating myself to do the chain job myself. So I must thank you for making these informative videos on this engine. It's like you say, spite it's trouble it is a great engine that really performs and still keeps fuel consummation really low. To bad that in my country(Norway) it's illegal to remove the EGR system, so I'm stuck with it.
Check that its not a recalled item, there was a fault with the timing chains in these that caused failure (chain rubbed)... it was on watchdog in the UK: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/23p5j5wzPtYflS7kFvmKVZf/bmw-deny-engine-failures-are-due-to-manufacturing-fault#:~:text=The%20Team-,BMW%20deny%20engine%20failures%20are%20due%20to%20manufacturing%20fault,built%20between%202007%20and%202009.&text=But%20if%20the%20timing%20chain,that%20can%20happen%20without%20warning. You may at least be able to get some money towards it being changed.
Much appreciated I've got a 1 series with 147k. Just sorted the abs rings, now got a egr / dpf issues causing intermittent limp mode. So the egr is going, hopefully a dpf clean then that's sorted. Now I know things I should replace as soon as I can thanks. After I look in the service history, with any luck some or this has been done 😂 but I don't think so
"That's just down to their neglect" I agree totally. at 70k or 80k and then especially over 100K you have to expect that even long life parts will be getting tired. Whether you get another 50K or 5K is pot luck that no-one can calculate as too many variables. Either buy a new car, or one with 100K+ and expect to maintain it, or pay someone else to do it for you. Great video, gonna break out the tools and start doing some of these bits for cheap. Just wish I didn't have to take all the damn covers off every time
My N47 cars over the years..... - BMW 118d/58 mileage = 250,000 miles (regular 8,000/10,000 miles) oil changes - BMW 318d 2012/12 = 140,000 miles (regular 8,000/10,000 miles) - BMW MINI 2009/59 1.4 PSA (another issue with long intervals on their chains) mileage = 150,000 miles (regular 8,000/10,000 miles). See the running theme here, oil service intervals are the secret to long life, not even expensive oil, just the cheapest correct spec I can find. Also, this will help your turbo's on the cars also, that can leave a £1k fix if these get neglected, again linked to long oil intervals.
George you have wright with all the parts you have metion, my engine is an n57 with 120000miles and I have replace them all and all have just a little bit of life left in them...Thanks for advice and this grate info. Keep it going!!!!!
I have a 2012 BMW 520d F10 and it’s done 220,000 miles and the timing chain is beginning to fail. It’s soon getting replaced. It’s amazing how long timing chains can actually go if the car is regularly serviced. 😮
@@michakalinowski7418 it’s like a rattling noise that is there for like 2 or 3 seconds just after the engine startup. You’ll mostly notice it on a cold start.
Really great video; I'm just planning on buying and F11 535d or 530d. I've always enjoyed working on my Beemers and taking the engine out doesn't phase me.. this video is really helpful thanks a lot for posting mate :-)
My brother’s 318D just got its timing chain ripped. RIP 🪦 However my 118D has done 270000 km. So far only EGR has failed(Its been deactivated) I changed the suspension and brakepads around 200000 and its been going since then. Regular service interval with good quality oil in between. Its now time to give it some love. Brake discs and belt change. Also got a whining noise. Could be alternator bearing. Best car i ever owned although it’s getting old and beat up.
While EGR delete sounds good keep in mind the whole purpose of it is to lower the temperature inside the combustion chamber, and this makes the Zeldovich mechanism not to trigger as much (where nitrogen from air at high temp makes it degrade and react with oxygen and makes NOx pollutants). While at MOT on diesel afaik is only measured the opacity (and here EGR delete is actually beneficial), the NOx will be way higher! Pollutuion aside, without EGR the mean temperature inside the chamber will be a fair bit higher. This will make the engine slightly overheated. Keep a watch on coolant temperature. (wait... E60 does not have a proper coolant temp gauge. but you can activate the digital gauge from the menu before each start)
@@GeorgeAusters Here there are two modifications at once, since collant does not get heated by EGR gases anymore, but in theory and practice there is more heat generated in combustion chamber and this may result in lower temp overall. Could be. On my other car with renault F9Q engine after egr block the thermostat position at same temperature was higher than before egr removal. So this means the temp overall is not rising (the thermostat is taking care of that) but the heat produced is higher. (the Renault F9Q does not have egr cooler) I recently got an E61 520D with quite some milage (270000km) in pretty good shape, everything working, no errors on ISTA-D, full service history with regular maintenance done only in dealership up to 250000km at a very good price. I plan to replace the timing chain as you did in your video but would rather leave the engine in place and remove the gearbox. (i have a garage with car lift so no trouble going underneath) This way i don't mess with the wire loom on the engine. Also i have a gear puller to remove the pinion on the high pressure diesel pump so will not touch (hopefully) the mounting of the pump. I am an automotive phd engineer and teach about diesel injection principles at university. My experience wrenching is low since i don't do this every day but i've rebuilt engines and gearboxes before and will tackle the repairs myself.
I have never heard that the harmonic balancer failing. M57 for sure. But not on n57. Anyways I'm at 110k miles. Injectors are all solid the seals. Glow plugs never had issues either. But good Informative info.
Great job George, feel quite lucky to own the almost same model E60 as yours:) Thanks a lot for making these videos! Currently get more times to do some mods to my car by rewatching your videos.
Crankshaft pulley went at 135 k. Old rubber Centre just destroyed itself so worth changing for sure though not the cheapest part. Belt changed of course. Just seen this vid so will look at your other recommendations. Many thanks.
Top man mines a x5. Ex police I've had it since 2015. I should of done a video when I removed the engine and gearbox as the x5 is a 4 wheel drive. U can't do it in the car. Mines done 250 thousand. Just doing my rocker cover gasket this week.
Just had my Timing chain go on a MINI Countryman (2014), at 40mph, 54000 miles, even though it's had full main dealer servicing, so not limited to poor service history, or 100k mileage issue.
My crankshaft pulley failed yesterday at 197k km, tensioner wheel is locked, errors on dashboard: charging system failed, no power steering, no AC, engine overheating (in my case i was couple km from home and i drove it like that because i didn't know what failed,first i thought is the power steering pump that failed) 👍
Great video’s from your channel. Really appreciate the time and effort you put in to produce them. My F10 has CBS and after a service reset starts at 17k miles and works down from there, but I ignore this and service it between every 8k to 10k miles. I try to stay on top of all it’s servicing needs, and in 8 years of ownership and 155k miles it’s never broken down on me once, not a single time! (need to possibly do the chain though)??? Possibly chop it in before that though!
I heard so much about N47 timing chains going bang that I went and did mine at 140k miles. it didn't need doing at all. wish I'd not bothered was such a ballache to do.
Thanks for the great video. Glad you actually showed the engine unlike other youtubers. Quick question. . When you say miles, that isn't slang for kms, yea? My 2016 328d is at 110 000 kms so I want to be sure.
Isn't an N57 timing chain failure really rare? Isn't it mostly the N47 that suffers this? Btw, 5k miles oil changes is over kill, 10k/1yr is fine. As for the belt, you can see when they need changing when they start cracking on the ribs, or get squeaky (I'm not referring to slipping). And I would think you'd be able to see the crank pulley rubber cracking too? Good video anyway.
my 184bhp feels like a 125bhp mapped golf atm the moment im gonna do swirl flap delete, egr delete and dpf delete in 2 weeks once all the parts arrive and hope she feels better
having removed the EGR is something like HARAKIRI!! First the EGR is used to the combustion temperature which helps to decrease Fuel consumption. Further more, the ECU needs a EGR actuator. I dont know how you feed the ECU with a EGR signal? The injection timing is also depending on the amount of EGR, especially at full load of the engine, where it uses EGR, it can cause higher in cylinder pressure, becasue the injection calibration map is based on EGR %'s.
Hello, do you have a garage?, I got a BMW X5 E70 LCI 40d N57D30 engine, perfectly fine but worth checking all pints that you mentioned, thanks for this video and the other videos, valuable information.😉
Hello, I just bought a 320D but had not heard of the engine problems before, I read that a lot of the issues arrived on engines of 2009 and earlier and that some improvements were incorporated in 2011, the N47 engines were replaced in 2014, mine is december 2013, might that suggest my risk of these problems is less. Looking at some videos I saw that there was a change of timing belt tensioner, I wonder what other differences there might have been.
Nice video mate, just a couple of points. Title is a bit OTT, these are common points of failure but by no means guaranteed to fail after 100k. I recently sold my 2012 e90 N47 with 199k and none of those things had failed. Just regular maintainence. The other thing is I wouldn't publicly recommend removing the EGR. BMW put it there to channel your sooty emissions back into the engine to be burnt off to comply with emissions regulations. By removing it your sooty emissions aren't recirculating into the engine but going straight out the exhaust into the air everyone breathes, so whilst it may be better for your car it's not for the environment, so yeah, that's illegal.
I just bought an 330d xd n57 engine. Every problem you mentioned i will do thx man. But if you watch my short video you will hear missfire what do you think it is. Also it has a chip remapping so i have around 300pk and 186.000km on the engine. And the 300 need to go up 😎
I have a problem with my N47. When i do a cold start in the morning after a few seconds there is a smal coolant leak where the exhaust manifold is connected with the turbo. Just a smal leak and only for a few seconds… do you have an idea what it could be?
George, do you recommend replacing the water pump and thermostat while you're already there doing the crank pulley/harmonic balancer, drive belt, and belt tensioner? It would seem a natural time to get this done, but perhaps the cooling system is not very stressed being a diesel and the pump bearing lasts 200K miles rather than 100K. Would you choose to do it at say 120K if the pump was not weeping?
Have you ever heard of dropped cylinder liners/sleeves on N47? My coolant hoses are pretty pressurize/hard and my expansion tank has a small microscopic hole thru which is leaking coolant/steaming.
Thanks for the video. I wish i had watched the video before purchasing the X1 at 156K kms. it seems i have lot of work on my hand. i do like to work on my cars so i will do most myself. i will watch your videos as i carry out servicing. i do have a question about the intake manifold. there is lot of soot deposit around intake manifold area. it seems it must be leaking out from intake manifold. should i just replace the intake manifold? or try to clean it and see if the rod is ok?
Got a leaky valve cover gasket. Should I replace both the valve cover and the gasket, while I’ve got the thing off, or is it fine to reuse? If I’m not mistaken, it’s plastic, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it warped from repeated heat cycles and led to the cover leak to begin with. Got 108,000 miles.
Hi mate just quick question I have a fault code saying glow plug control unit missing on two glow plugs would that be the unit or I put faulty glow plugs in
Any gauge on what parts go first on a motorway car against a town car? My N57 has done 30k in the last 2yrs and is now on 91k. Water pump has just started getting noisy, a dodgy bearing, everything else... touch wood.. is sweet!
You didn't mention water pumps. My 2017 335d has developed a noise which sounds like a rough bearing, coming from behind and below all the EGR crap! Do you agree the water pump is the most likely cause? No water or oil leaks, no overheating, runs fine, just doesn't sound great. It's done 91k of mainly stress free motorway cruising, with an occasional blast when fully warm to blow the cobwebs out 😂
*Really* good video George, thank you for sharing. Personally I highly recommend switching the breather hose for an oil catch can. It is a fiddle to install, but so worth it. I now have the carbon build up that you talk about in another video under the injectors - looking for the video where you replace the injectors / strip the engine down, can't seem to see it (have found your excellent video on re-seating them)
@@GeorgeAusters Thanks for the really quick reply! I got it as a kit from eBay - it's a Mann Provent 200. The only place I could get it as a kit was Australia! Cost was £200+import fees. If I did it again I would buy the bits separately. Have done a video on it last week - the mounting plate was a pain to make up, but now that it's installed = massive peace of mind. Will edit up and share next week :-)
@@GeorgeAusters Yep - I'm going to supersede that - I installed it the wrong way round! And now have a proper mounting plate - the first install bounced around on the bonnet and made a racket.
Wish id found channel a few weeks ago 😅 E82 / N47 with 156k miles. Just had the EGR replaced as well as the manifold aa due to a cardon build up, it had focused the heat and eventually burned a hole in the casing! Should have deleted 🤦♂️ lol
Hi, could you please tell me what is the difference between a bmw 318d and 320d. I have a bmw 318d n47 2013 and what to convert it to a 320d. People say it is just the tune that is different but when you remap a 318d it goes from 143bhp to 184bhp where a 320d is 184hp standard and goes to 230bhp. Nice videos
no offense,but i had a bmw e36,1.6 with no problem,timing chain in 460 000km,the guy who bought the car is still using it,so well done bmw.Like volkswagen with the tfsi engines.So i bought a mazda 3 brand new in 2017,no problems yet.
Nice video! I have a question, I have a 11/2016 F31 LCI 330d and when I look up the intake manifold on realoem I dont see the rod part like I see with older versions of the engine/car. Am I to assume that its a different manifold and should not worry about this issue? Thanks in advance!
I want to buy an x1 with 2 liter diesel engine, 143 hp. Is it true that newer models after 2012 has the timing chain in front of the engine to easy acces? Or all N47 engines has the chain in the back? Thank you.
Thanks lad. Time for me to pop the bonnet and get paranoid. 😂
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Thank you George for such interesting blogs. My car is a 2012 F20 120d with the N47. I recently followed your blog on removal of the inlet manifold to replace the coolant inlet flange. I have done just on 350 000 kilometres and to my surprise the manifold did not require cleaning. Most of my driving is long distance trips between Johannesburg and my farm in the Free State, a distance of 350 km, which I do more or less once in two weeks. I am rather alarmed about your comment on the timing chain. I service my car myself at 15 000km intervals using only 5w40 pure synthetic oil. I have never had any mechanical failure. I have driven other BM's and Alfas. This is the best car I have had. Sadly, I am about to replace it.
Hey, do you mind me asking if you still have the 120d ? and if, are you the first owner ?
I have the N47 engine from 2012 in my car, working perfectly well at 228000 miles, thank you for your video
Glad to hear!
bmw enginer?or salesman?
Who?
@@GeorgeAusters ,David Viner
It would have been easier to place them in the front, but it´s not really a fault is just a different design,... the chain can be replaced from underneath the car, no need to take out the engine; that is what BMW service do, they don´t take out the engines.
Very informative video! Thanks!
I'm driving one of these, specifically the F10 535d. What I'd like to say if you keep the service intervals at 15k miles, neglect the time needed for the engine oil to warm up and use bad quality oil then don't be surprised when everything will start to fail.
My interval is 1year / 6-10k miles. I always let the oil to warm up mid-range of the gauge before I start fooling around. I've never, ever used launch control and I'm using high quality LL04 oil and high quality diesel. Don't make the mistake of using LL01 / cheap diesel or your DPF will die quickly. Especially if you don't do much of a highway daily.
Happily hitting 100k miles now with no problems whatsoever.
4:48 just to add some more advice. The high pressure fuel pump needs looking after by using decent fuel and getting a fuel filter change with a service.
Brought a N47 3 series at 90K miles. Changes pretty much every single part already between 100-120k. Car runs with out any faults at this moment.
Hey, how's the car running ? any repairs done since you made the comment ?
Any update?
You are a legend man, I just bought 2011 F11 525d with 117000 miles. Will be checking all those parts soon. Thanks and keep it up
What is your opinion about your dad after 4 year ?
Timing chain on my f10 N57 broke at about 100k miles. I'd bought the car at about 80k miles and after the warranty finished I took out private warrant.. as expected the timing chain was NOT covered and cost me the best part of 2k to fix!
My previous M57 was absolutely bullet proof. All I ever done was a swirl flap delete and changed the oil breather spongy thing to a vortex type. It lasted me 250k miles. Was still going strong when I sold it.
This n57 has given me no end of problems and it's only just reached 120k miles.
You need to replace the timing chain before it fails 👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters I learnt the hard way..... very hard!
Thanks!
Thanks buddy, much appreciated!
The funny thing is that I have a 2010 320d which I bought 5 years ago with 136 000 km and now has 345 000 km . All of those parts that the guy listed already failed .
Mine never failed and I changed my oil every 19k miles on my E60 520d. At 220k miles I decided to change the chain for peace of mind. Now I am on 250k miles and only the turbo was serviced and the water pump and some front suspension parts changed. Going like a clock and still reaching 140mph without any problem. But now in its old age (59 plate), I give it tlc and change the 5w30 oil every 10k. I have now decided to change the auto transmission oil and filter plate before Christmas. ☘️☘️
Great video. After watching noticed my crankshaft breather hose was leaking on to the EGR valve. Funnily enough had an egr valve fault!!
You and the bmw doctor really know your stuff, great content mate thank you for all the videos you do
Cheers Sean, appreciate it mate
This video really gave me hope on my recent purchase, 520d with 240.000km. I wasn’t aware of any issue at the time that I bought the car. Then I saw so many people complaining and saying to run away from that engine. I was really sad about that. However the car sounds and fells just great. Now I know what I have to look after. Many thanks for your video.
How has it been treating?
@@motheongoepe56 I haven’t drive it, because I’m working out. But I changed the timing kit. But I no longer think too much about the issues. People stress a lot (too much).
Still going strong?
Yes, everything seems ok until now. But I did just 5.000km since I bought it. I’m planing on getting it remapped within a couple months, and possibly remove the PAF.
@Nice, i just bought a 520D last week it broke down on the highway on my way home from the dealership, towed it back there and they are currently fixing it
I have owned a lot of bmw ,s ,starting with the 1800 ,through to the present X3 ,with the n47 engine .I would recommend anyone with a BMW to listen to George and change the oil every 5000 MILES regardless.don,t do it and you will have a lot of problems apart from the timing chain,the biggest is the camshaft,rockers,valve seals ect .
Cheers Barry
My breather hose was completely snapped off for unknow ammount of time could something be damaged as the result? the hose showed at 3:00
Looking at buying a 120d, this video is going to come in handy massively!! Thanks mate
Same :D
I have a 2009 E91 318D with the N47. It has now done 105000miles and the chain sound is there. The engine has performed flawless up until now. (with regular oil changes)
I'm educating myself to do the chain job myself. So I must thank you for making these informative videos on this engine.
It's like you say, spite it's trouble it is a great engine that really performs and still keeps fuel consummation really low.
To bad that in my country(Norway) it's illegal to remove the EGR system, so I'm stuck with it.
Check that its not a recalled item, there was a fault with the timing chains in these that caused failure (chain rubbed)... it was on watchdog in the UK: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/23p5j5wzPtYflS7kFvmKVZf/bmw-deny-engine-failures-are-due-to-manufacturing-fault#:~:text=The%20Team-,BMW%20deny%20engine%20failures%20are%20due%20to%20manufacturing%20fault,built%20between%202007%20and%202009.&text=But%20if%20the%20timing%20chain,that%20can%20happen%20without%20warning.
You may at least be able to get some money towards it being changed.
@@dodge2451
It was a so called goodwill from BMWs part, but my car is to old and milige to high.
Hey, I know this comment was made pretty long back, but did you end doing the timing chain replacement ? and did you do it yourself ?
Great video, thanks. I just used it to replace my Tensioner/pully/belt set on my E90 N47 with 170k Miles on it. I too replace oil and filter every 5k.
Much appreciated I've got a 1 series with 147k. Just sorted the abs rings, now got a egr / dpf issues causing intermittent limp mode. So the egr is going, hopefully a dpf clean then that's sorted. Now I know things I should replace as soon as I can thanks. After I look in the service history, with any luck some or this has been done 😂 but I don't think so
"That's just down to their neglect" I agree totally. at 70k or 80k and then especially over 100K you have to expect that even long life parts will be getting tired. Whether you get another 50K or 5K is pot luck that no-one can calculate as too many variables.
Either buy a new car, or one with 100K+ and expect to maintain it, or pay someone else to do it for you.
Great video, gonna break out the tools and start doing some of these bits for cheap. Just wish I didn't have to take all the damn covers off every time
My N47 cars over the years.....
- BMW 118d/58 mileage = 250,000 miles (regular 8,000/10,000 miles) oil changes
- BMW 318d 2012/12 = 140,000 miles (regular 8,000/10,000 miles)
- BMW MINI 2009/59 1.4 PSA (another issue with long intervals on their chains) mileage = 150,000 miles (regular 8,000/10,000 miles).
See the running theme here, oil service intervals are the secret to long life, not even expensive oil, just the cheapest correct spec I can find. Also, this will help your turbo's on the cars also, that can leave a £1k fix if these get neglected, again linked to long oil intervals.
What about timing chain? I just bought a 328d today and I'm paranoid
George you have wright with all the parts you have metion, my engine is an n57 with 120000miles and I have replace them all and all have just a little bit of life left in them...Thanks for advice and this grate info. Keep it going!!!!!
I have a 2012 BMW 520d F10 and it’s done 220,000 miles and the timing chain is beginning to fail. It’s soon getting replaced. It’s amazing how long timing chains can actually go if the car is regularly serviced. 😮
Maintenence is key!
How did you diagnose that the timing chain needs to be replaced?
@@michakalinowski7418 it’s like a rattling noise that is there for like 2 or 3 seconds just after the engine startup. You’ll mostly notice it on a cold start.
Really great video; I'm just planning on buying and F11 535d or 530d. I've always enjoyed working on my Beemers and taking the engine out doesn't phase me.. this video is really helpful thanks a lot for posting mate :-)
Nice one . He defo covered everything correctly.
thx a lot man!
my F10 N57 has 100k miles, so changing this next week, just to be sure!
BTW, when fault on glow plugs, DPF WON'T REGENERATE!
No prob!
Love your thorough and balanced approach you’ve tacitly convinced me to buy a 17-18 x5m, and for that, I thank you.
You’re welcome! With which engine?
@@GeorgeAusters n57
USA
Good job ,George ,thanks for your advice.
My brother’s 318D just got its timing chain ripped. RIP 🪦
However my 118D has done 270000 km. So far only EGR has failed(Its been deactivated) I changed the suspension and brakepads around 200000 and its been going since then. Regular service interval with good quality oil in between. Its now time to give it some love. Brake discs and belt change. Also got a whining noise. Could be alternator bearing. Best car i ever owned although it’s getting old and beat up.
Fantastic George, very informative as usual.
Cheers Graham!
While EGR delete sounds good keep in mind the whole purpose of it is to lower the temperature inside the combustion chamber, and this makes the Zeldovich mechanism not to trigger as much (where nitrogen from air at high temp makes it degrade and react with oxygen and makes NOx pollutants). While at MOT on diesel afaik is only measured the opacity (and here EGR delete is actually beneficial), the NOx will be way higher!
Pollutuion aside, without EGR the mean temperature inside the chamber will be a fair bit higher. This will make the engine slightly overheated.
Keep a watch on coolant temperature. (wait... E60 does not have a proper coolant temp gauge. but you can activate the digital gauge from the menu before each start)
EGR delete actually means lower coolant temps. Mine stays around 87-90 celcius
@@GeorgeAusters
Here there are two modifications at once, since collant does not get heated by EGR gases anymore, but in theory and practice there is more heat generated in combustion chamber and this may result in lower temp overall. Could be.
On my other car with renault F9Q engine after egr block the thermostat position at same temperature was higher than before egr removal. So this means the temp overall is not rising (the thermostat is taking care of that) but the heat produced is higher. (the Renault F9Q does not have egr cooler)
I recently got an E61 520D with quite some milage (270000km) in pretty good shape, everything working, no errors on ISTA-D, full service history with regular maintenance done only in dealership up to 250000km at a very good price.
I plan to replace the timing chain as you did in your video but would rather leave the engine in place and remove the gearbox. (i have a garage with car lift so no trouble going underneath) This way i don't mess with the wire loom on the engine. Also i have a gear puller to remove the pinion on the high pressure diesel pump so will not touch (hopefully) the mounting of the pump.
I am an automotive phd engineer and teach about diesel injection principles at university. My experience wrenching is low since i don't do this every day but i've rebuilt engines and gearboxes before and will tackle the repairs myself.
I have never heard that the harmonic balancer failing. M57 for sure. But not on n57. Anyways I'm at 110k miles. Injectors are all solid the seals. Glow plugs never had issues either. But good Informative info.
Yes they fail around 150K miles
Great job George, feel quite lucky to own the almost same model E60 as yours:) Thanks a lot for making these videos! Currently get more times to do some mods to my car by rewatching your videos.
Good stuff man, glad I can be of some help👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters have 300k with my first chain without sounds, should a replace that?
Crankshaft pulley went at 135 k. Old rubber Centre just destroyed itself so worth changing for sure though not the cheapest part. Belt changed of course. Just seen this vid so will look at your other recommendations. Many thanks.
Cheers Ian!
Top man mines a x5. Ex police I've had it since 2015. I should of done a video when I removed the engine and gearbox as the x5 is a 4 wheel drive. U can't do it in the car. Mines done 250 thousand. Just doing my rocker cover gasket this week.
I’m getting a 435d soon, hopefully won’t regret it! Don’t want to get one with more than 80k miles if I can help it.
Interesting you didn't mention the Turbo or the actuator. Mine went at 94,000. Cost
me £950 to have
sorted
Thank you. Very informative. I own a 2011 BMW 320D in India. 🙏🏾
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks a million my bro.
A great...
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... video, thanks.
Just had my Timing chain go on a MINI Countryman (2014), at 40mph, 54000 miles, even though it's had full main dealer servicing, so not limited to poor service history, or 100k mileage issue.
Sorry to hear. How many oil changes has it had so far then?
@@GeorgeAusters Just had 8th service at dealer in March 2023.
Hi mate I have a 2014 218d with 50k miles on it n47n engine
Love all your video
What is the best oil to use in the engine
Many thanks Anthony
My crankshaft pulley failed yesterday at 197k km, tensioner wheel is locked, errors on dashboard: charging system failed, no power steering, no AC, engine overheating (in my case i was couple km from home and i drove it like that because i didn't know what failed,first i thought is the power steering pump that failed) 👍
Plus .... Rear main oil seal and steering angle sensor. Rear drive shafts . Rear diff donut thingy.
Which apart from the RMS aren’t even remotely part of the engine…..as per the title. 🙄
Great video’s from your channel. Really appreciate the time and effort you put in to produce them. My F10 has CBS and after a service reset starts at 17k miles and works down from there, but I ignore this and service it between every 8k to 10k miles. I try to stay on top of all it’s servicing needs, and in 8 years of ownership and 155k miles it’s never broken down on me once, not a single time! (need to possibly do the chain though)??? Possibly chop it in before that though!
F10 is a b57 it it not
@@paulnolan6866 my F10 is a N47N but post-2013 F11’s or F10’s maybe B’s.
@@TheGreatestBeyonder mine is 2012 and it is N47
DPF pressure sensor can also fail, EGR, oil cooler gasket, thermostat gasket.
Great video mate 👍
Next, can you make a VDO something about the DPF?
Is it a good idea to remove it?
Clean it?
Replace it?
Cheers
Already done! ua-cam.com/video/cZGoqSGmSb4/v-deo.html
@@GeorgeAusters amazing cheers
DIY Actually Easy take the dpf off u will love it , nothing improved my car as much as dpf and egr removal
Get rid of it and custom remap 😍
Hi I got 320D N47 E90 is not starting when is hot but when is cold starting perfect and driving nice
I think it may be problem with ignition coils
Thank you man ..keep going 👍
I heard so much about N47 timing chains going bang that I went and did mine at 140k miles. it didn't need doing at all. wish I'd not bothered was such a ballache to do.
Worth doing for peace of mind👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters Yeah I guess, all I need worry about now is the thing ingesting its own swirl flaps
Thanks for the great video. Glad you actually showed the engine unlike other youtubers. Quick question. . When you say miles, that isn't slang for kms, yea? My 2016 328d is at 110 000 kms so I want to be sure.
Miles means miles👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters Thank you
Isn't an N57 timing chain failure really rare? Isn't it mostly the N47 that suffers this?
Btw, 5k miles oil changes is over kill, 10k/1yr is fine.
As for the belt, you can see when they need changing when they start cracking on the ribs, or get squeaky (I'm not referring to slipping).
And I would think you'd be able to see the crank pulley rubber cracking too?
Good video anyway.
my 184bhp feels like a 125bhp mapped golf atm the moment im gonna do swirl flap delete, egr delete and dpf delete in 2 weeks once all the parts arrive and hope she feels better
update, feels wayyy quicker off the line
having removed the EGR is something like HARAKIRI!! First the EGR is used to the combustion temperature which helps to decrease Fuel consumption. Further more, the ECU needs a EGR actuator. I dont know how you feed the ECU with a EGR signal? The injection timing is also depending on the amount of EGR, especially at full load of the engine, where it uses EGR, it can cause higher in cylinder pressure, becasue the injection calibration map is based on EGR %'s.
You need to have the car remapped so that it removes the error and lowers the temperatures
Does this info correlate to the mini 1.6 n47?
Yes
Were are the links to the parts mentioned on the above viedo, Nice information thanks
Bro, what’s called the left big tube where air go’s to the radiator next your oil filter? Thanks!
Hello, do you have a garage?, I got a BMW X5 E70 LCI 40d N57D30 engine, perfectly fine but worth checking all pints that you mentioned, thanks for this video and the other videos, valuable information.😉
Can you keep the EGR all in place BUT just block off the manifold hole and not get any codes?
Hello, I just bought a 320D but had not heard of the engine problems before, I read that a lot of the issues arrived on engines of 2009 and earlier and that some improvements were incorporated in 2011, the N47 engines were replaced in 2014, mine is december 2013, might that suggest my risk of these problems is less. Looking at some videos I saw that there was a change of timing belt tensioner, I wonder what other differences there might have been.
Nice video mate, just a couple of points. Title is a bit OTT, these are common points of failure but by no means guaranteed to fail after 100k. I recently sold my 2012 e90 N47 with 199k and none of those things had failed. Just regular maintainence. The other thing is I wouldn't publicly recommend removing the EGR. BMW put it there to channel your sooty emissions back into the engine to be burnt off to comply with emissions regulations. By removing it your sooty emissions aren't recirculating into the engine but going straight out the exhaust into the air everyone breathes, so whilst it may be better for your car it's not for the environment, so yeah, that's illegal.
I just bought an 330d xd n57 engine. Every problem you mentioned i will do thx man. But if you watch my short video you will hear missfire what do you think it is. Also it has a chip remapping so i have around 300pk and 186.000km on the engine. And the 300 need to go up 😎
Good info 👍
I have a problem with my N47. When i do a cold start in the morning after a few seconds there is a smal coolant leak where the exhaust manifold is connected with the turbo. Just a smal leak and only for a few seconds… do you have an idea what it could be?
Nice one mate
timing chain just snapped on my 2013 f30 going at around 60mph, gonna be a new engine i reckon
Can sometimes just be new rocker arms
Can sometimes just be new rocker arms
George, do you recommend replacing the water pump and thermostat while you're already there doing the crank pulley/harmonic balancer, drive belt, and belt tensioner? It would seem a natural time to get this done, but perhaps the cooling system is not very stressed being a diesel and the pump bearing lasts 200K miles rather than 100K. Would you choose to do it at say 120K if the pump was not weeping?
Great video having these problem one by one !
Have you ever heard of dropped cylinder liners/sleeves on N47? My coolant hoses are pretty pressurize/hard and my expansion tank has a small microscopic hole thru which is leaking coolant/steaming.
How much did you spend on parts? Curiosity as I may go through some of your changes
Thanks for the video. I wish i had watched the video before purchasing the X1 at 156K kms. it seems i have lot of work on my hand. i do like to work on my cars so i will do most myself. i will watch your videos as i carry out servicing. i do have a question about the intake manifold. there is lot of soot deposit around intake manifold area. it seems it must be leaking out from intake manifold. should i just replace the intake manifold? or try to clean it and see if the rod is ok?
Any video on the rocker cover gasket? Thanks
George,what about removing the EGR valve but DPF is still active? That will works ?
DPF will clog very quickly as it will never regenerate
I'm going to look at an e91 320D ED this afternoon, its got 105k miles. Looks very well looked after and FSH. Should I be worried about timing chain?
Got a leaky valve cover gasket. Should I replace both the valve cover and the gasket, while I’ve got the thing off, or is it fine to reuse? If I’m not mistaken, it’s plastic, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it warped from repeated heat cycles and led to the cover leak to begin with. Got 108,000 miles.
N57C oil pump that is used in F10 m50d - can I use that pump for N57A in F10 530xd 190kw?
time chain normally starts doing noise before breaking up. most mechanics wont recommend changing it unless its going bad
Not all the time
Bro, what’s called the left tube where air go’s to the radiator?
Hi mate just quick question I have a fault code saying glow plug control unit missing on two glow plugs would that be the unit or I put faulty glow plugs in
Any gauge on what parts go first on a motorway car against a town car?
My N57 has done 30k in the last 2yrs and is now on 91k.
Water pump has just started getting noisy, a dodgy bearing, everything else... touch wood.. is sweet!
Well, it comes to the design when is about N47 because M47 can reach easly 250k miles on original timing chain and crankshaft pulley...
Hello matey I have 320d 2011 can the egr just be deleted of the map or does it have to be blank of
You didn't mention water pumps. My 2017 335d has developed a noise which sounds like a rough bearing, coming from behind and below all the EGR crap! Do you agree the water pump is the most likely cause?
No water or oil leaks, no overheating, runs fine, just doesn't sound great.
It's done 91k of mainly stress free motorway cruising, with an occasional blast when fully warm to blow the cobwebs out 😂
That should be B57 engine
@GeorgeAusters No its defo an N57d30t1 verified by ISTA+
I've been told it's the tensioner that is the problem and the latest tensioner is much better.
*Really* good video George, thank you for sharing. Personally I highly recommend switching the breather hose for an oil catch can. It is a fiddle to install, but so worth it. I now have the carbon build up that you talk about in another video under the injectors - looking for the video where you replace the injectors / strip the engine down, can't seem to see it (have found your excellent video on re-seating them)
Where did you get your catch can from?
The video where I remove the injectors etc is here: ua-cam.com/video/YE1M5uUl71s/v-deo.html
@@GeorgeAusters Thanks for the really quick reply! I got it as a kit from eBay - it's a Mann Provent 200. The only place I could get it as a kit was Australia! Cost was £200+import fees. If I did it again I would buy the bits separately. Have done a video on it last week - the mounting plate was a pain to make up, but now that it's installed = massive peace of mind. Will edit up and share next week :-)
@@FixItWithJon Just saw your vid mate
@@GeorgeAusters Yep - I'm going to supersede that - I installed it the wrong way round! And now have a proper mounting plate - the first install bounced around on the bonnet and made a racket.
I reckon my camshaft sensor needs replacing. Is there just one of these on the N47 engine? And where is this?
Dit is een zeer leerzame video ik had veel in mijn gedachte dat hier te zien is!!i
Ik ben blij dat het je heeft geholpen. Bedankt voor het kijken!
Ik heb een meetstift als controle voor de rek van de distrebutieketting !!
Kan dat electronis???
Good info mate. Really informative
Cheers
Rocker cover gasket will leaks causing oil leak to exhaust and it can catch fire if it's bad.
Wish id found channel a few weeks ago 😅 E82 / N47 with 156k miles. Just had the EGR replaced as well as the manifold aa due to a cardon build up, it had focused the heat and eventually burned a hole in the casing!
Should have deleted 🤦♂️ lol
George, very interesting video, what about the newer (2013 184 HP) engines, same problems or have some been solved?
Pretty much the exact same issues
My car rattles on start up n47 engine car has been serviced every 7-10k on 100k now so I'm assuming it's chain soon to be replaced
hello George, what you think what is the main problem leaking oil on N57 on valve cover, I'm on 68.000 km F16
Hi, could you please tell me what is the difference between a bmw 318d and 320d. I have a bmw 318d n47 2013 and what to convert it to a 320d. People say it is just the tune that is different but when you remap a 318d it goes from 143bhp to 184bhp where a 320d is 184hp standard and goes to 230bhp. Nice videos
no offense,but i had a bmw e36,1.6 with no problem,timing chain in 460 000km,the guy who bought the car is still using it,so well done bmw.Like volkswagen with the tfsi engines.So i bought a mazda 3 brand new in 2017,no problems yet.
the 2.0 petrol engine,120hp
You forgot the flexi pipe that snaps off on the bottom of the DPF
Nice video! I have a question, I have a 11/2016 F31 LCI 330d and when I look up the intake manifold on realoem I dont see the rod part like I see with older versions of the engine/car. Am I to assume that its a different manifold and should not worry about this issue? Thanks in advance!
I want to buy an x1 with 2 liter diesel engine, 143 hp. Is it true that newer models after 2012 has the timing chain in front of the engine to easy acces? Or all N47 engines has the chain in the back? Thank you.