The only negative for the Pcx is the rear brake which is very frustrating, yet I still chose the Pcx and never had a problem! As far as design goes, it is way more slick and beautiful to me. Absolutely great performance and perfect for the city! I even crashed it and didn't get anything more than just a few scratches down where you put your feet 🤣 Definitely recommend!
This was something I noticed too, with PCX and ADV 150. It's partly why I've been looking towards the 300cc level of scooters. Oh, and the PCX & ADV 150 are now over 5000USD. Big problem there is availability for the 300cc scoots here in the US. Might as well look for a unicorn :/
I have had two pcx's and yes you would think it should have a rear disk by now but I've been lucky and never had a problem stopping quickly. It does however have led lighting all round and the Yamaha still has bulb indicators, they are so low down that a guy I met owned a new one and said drivers are not always seeing them. Yes am biased but watching them together on this vid, for me the styling of the Honda wins hands down. I know we will never see it in the UK but the 160 would be perfect for me.
The yamaha have always had somewhat comfier sit in that they are not as firm, and the deck where the leg is seems bigger than the yamaha. But after actually sitting on each at dealer's I personally find pcx to be comfier in terms of sit, precisely because they aren't flat, I find myself sliding of the seat on the yamaha easier but I gues for longer rides even touring the Yamaha might be more comfortable. As for that leg room, after actually sitting and trying on, it doesnt seem as roomy mainly because the body on the yamaha is wider so your leg is spread a little wider so the pcx actually felt more comfortable too. I think the biggest advantage on Yamaha is simply that both front and rear are abs. The pcx I think looks better overall, the speedometer and all too, and I think that extra room in the underseat compartment is such a plus for so many practical purposes.
They both look good. I think Honda did a better job with the front indicators than yamaha. They are positioned higher and i think you'll be seen much better.
Hi, greetings, I'm from Indonesia. I just found this video and I just realized that your N MAX and PCX only have 125cc cubic. Both of which in my place Indonesia have 155cc cubication and 4 valves with the same model and appearance as in your place. Only distinguished by the choice of colors. FYI : Prices for both now in 2022 around £1,850 (non ABS), and £2,054 (ABS+Traction Control).
I test rode an Nmax 155 last year and was shocked at much room there is. I´m 186cm (6´1") and could easily stretch my legs out and move back freely. Very comfortable even for hour-long journeys. I weigh 110kg so I definitely would have wanted the extra power of the 155. I went for the Xmax 300 instead though, mainly because of the power. It isn´t nearly as roomy as the Nmax unfortunately and you start to feel cramped after around 90 minutes in the saddle. Yamaha should make an Nmax 300 and I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Nmax 155 is sold like a hot cake in Indonesia, with how insane modification culture here, people prefer a Build-Up Nmax than X Max, mainly because of the design ..
I own a Yamaha nmax 2021 the blue just like in this video was originally going to get the Honda but so glad I didn’t the nmax has been so reliable to me haven’t let me down once mega fast the only down point is not being able to get a helmet under the seat but other than that a brilliant bike overall
We compare the various attributes in our written feature, which you can find here: www.carolenash.com/tips-guides/bike-reviews/detail/125cc-scooter-shootout-honda-pcx-125-v-yamaha-nmax While the NMAX has stronger and better specified brakes, the PCX is still very competent and we are sure most riders will be happy with either.
I wish reviews/comparisons would mention rider height. I'm 6'3 and don't want to be riding around with my knees in the way. Great video though! I think it's the Yamaha for me.
If it helps, I'm the same height and tried the Nmax '24 at a dealership, legs fit easily and had no issues of handlebars knocking my knees when turning which I had on a lot of scooters
@@NsABullitzZ Awesome, that does help! Thanks very much. I've been renting an NIU NQI electric thing. It's cool but it's a push to get a 4-hour delivery shift out of the batteries.
Didn't know that this both scooters is available let alone one of the best selling there, both are really popular here in indonesia, and both are cheaper here than there, for Nmax 155 cost around 1600 GBP but I'm not sure about the feature though
Nice review but for the life of moped scooter buyers why doesn't anyone ever compare the Piaggio medley with the usual 125's.. no where onYT.... Thanks for the video
Sauf qu'il faut mettre le casque à l'envers dans le coffre du Yamaha, sangle de serrage dessus et visière vers l'arrière !! J'ai un N MAX 2021 et le casque rentre.
Hi. Im from the Philippines and I have a Yamaha Nmax 155. I don't think I've seen a 125cc version here. Just curious why that is. I bought mine for around 2300 GBP. I'm wondering is there really a difference? Did Yamaha just make a bigger engine with the same performance just to make it look good for the local market?
125cc are usually for the European market, and 150cc is mostly found in Italy! You have to have 150cc minimum to go on the highway there, while the rest can go with 125cc.
Lol the headlights on the nmax look ridiculous 😂 They are good scooters though! The sitting position is more comfortable. Better brakes and take off speeds. Though smaller tank and uses slightly more fuel than the pcx
@@whyh the pcx has never had a front drum brake though. Always had a disc brake on the front. Being today's world. Most bikes are equipped with abs. Or cbs.
@@JDMz All bikes in the past had drum brakes, although PCX is too new to have gone through that for front brakes. So why hasn't Honda kept what worked? Why would they replace something that works?
Piaggio Medley all the way.. bigger boot, more comfortable, bigger wheels, F/R abs, equal bhp, longer wheel base, better for motorways (bigger wheels), same price if not cheaper and liquid cooled. Your welcome 🌝
@@MeisterEder1 Piaggio is laughing at you. Definitely more comfortable than the nmax, sh and pcx for sure, just going by the difference in size alone of the front forks for the medley is a good clue and the longer wheelbase helps also and larger front tyre as well irons out the bumps a lot better than the fore mentioned models. Thanks
Because in Europe you need special motorcycle licence to drive more than 125cc. In my country i can ride these 125cc bikes with my car licence. That's the main reason i bought my Pcx
I'm 180cm but have long legs and the handlebars of the pcx also hit my legs when turning sharply, its actually less of an issue on the nmax for me. Best advice is probably sit on it for yourself before buying.
@@alexanderhetzel8271 you can easily put the steering wheel in another higher position with the 4 bolts. I have a pcx 125 and did the same. By the yamaha, s is that not posible.
@@roepieroepie5333 Good point, the steering tube may not look as "refined" as the one on the Yamaha as some reviewers call it, but it is more useful as it is just a standard motorcycle arrangement.
A PCX sokkal szebb és átgondoltabb! A hátsó dobfék legyen a legnagyobb "hibája"!A nagyobb jobban világító fényszórói,a kényelmesebb ülése,az informálisabb kijelző sokkal vonzóbbá teszik,az opcionális nagyszélvédővel meg szuper!
I have driven the PCX, lovely bike, only thing bothered me was my hot ass, the seat became little to hot when driving(i drove it in Thailand), if i ever will buy one, i try to find a cooler seat, for the rest it was comfy, even when i drove around 100km, with my gf on the back...
Its a shame Honda doesnt have a bike inbetween the PCX and the Forza..as its a fare old jump in price between the two. Yes they have other scooters..but not in the same style. Yamaha have the Nmax then the Xmax then the Tmax........why Honda is not doing the same I don't know. Ok there is no 125 Tmax...but I am talking about pricing...they stick a "Upgraded" PCX between the standard and the 125 Forza they'd be onto a winner.. Though that might put a dent in Forza sales and also the standard PCX. But really...in todays times the PCX should have a rear disc brake. Well...it does..in Asia...why not here?
@@JDMz The PCX and Forza allows you to put your legs out a little in front of you. I suffer from arthristis and being in the seated postion of the SH125i may not be the most comfortable as my knees get sore could lock. I need to be able to stretch out a little.
@@darcychu9652 Yes...but it shoudlnt mean we in the West should have to put up with less choice and in my opinion down graded scooter eg having a rear drum brake instead of disc to save money on their part and make more money out of UK customers. On saying that..the US does get the some of the larger cc versions of the scooter. As always the UK gets the basics at high prices....Maybe in a few years they will put a disc on the rear of the PCX. Then they'll crow about it saying "look at what we've done"...oh but you will have to pay a premium....when the scooter could and should of had it years ago!!...Taken for mugs.
Im picking Yamaha since it has both front and rear abs which should be standard in 2021 now.
It is that and the discs fore and aft that are sort of swaying me too. As much as I like the Honda.
No need for rear disk brake rear brake is only used for slow speed control
This video was the decisive reason for me to pick and buy the pcx. Thanks for that
The only negative for the Pcx is the rear brake which is very frustrating, yet I still chose the Pcx and never had a problem! As far as design goes, it is way more slick and beautiful to me. Absolutely great performance and perfect for the city! I even crashed it and didn't get anything more than just a few scratches down where you put your feet 🤣 Definitely recommend!
This was something I noticed too, with PCX and ADV 150. It's partly why I've been looking towards the 300cc level of scooters. Oh, and the PCX & ADV 150 are now over 5000USD. Big problem there is availability for the 300cc scoots here in the US. Might as well look for a unicorn :/
@@ziptiefighter Is it hard to find Scooters in the US? Do you know if XADV 750 is available there?
@@pavloschatz The XADV 750 is not available in the US. Even the ADV 350 is unavailable.
This is how you do a comparison, concise, to the point, great shots,
Yamaha should stay to their classic game, honda is just a name, Yamaha is luxury comfort and confidence
I have had two pcx's and yes you would think it should have a rear disk by now but I've been lucky and never had a problem stopping quickly. It does however have led lighting all round and the Yamaha still has bulb indicators, they are so low down that a guy I met owned a new one and said drivers are not always seeing them.
Yes am biased but watching them together on this vid, for me the styling of the Honda wins hands down.
I know we will never see it in the UK but the 160 would be perfect for me.
Yamaha should stay to their classic game, honda is just a name, Yamaha is luxury comfort and confidence
Yamaha sollte weiter Musikinstrumente bauen!
The yamaha have always had somewhat comfier sit in that they are not as firm, and the deck where the leg is seems bigger than the yamaha. But after actually sitting on each at dealer's I personally find pcx to be comfier in terms of sit, precisely because they aren't flat, I find myself sliding of the seat on the yamaha easier but I gues for longer rides even touring the Yamaha might be more comfortable. As for that leg room, after actually sitting and trying on, it doesnt seem as roomy mainly because the body on the yamaha is wider so your leg is spread a little wider so the pcx actually felt more comfortable too.
I think the biggest advantage on Yamaha is simply that both front and rear are abs. The pcx I think looks better overall, the speedometer and all too, and I think that extra room in the underseat compartment is such a plus for so many practical purposes.
I have the red nmax because of better breaks and seating position. But both good bikes
I rode an older version of the Nmax on holidays in Portugal, it was a great ride!
They both look good. I think Honda did a better job with the front indicators than yamaha.
They are positioned higher and i think you'll be seen much better.
😅
Choosing a bike because of indicators
@@densepada2848 Could be the difference between donating ones organs or keeping them.
@@densepada2848 well yes. Many car drivers won't see you indicating if the indicators are low.... Common sense really. 😅
Hi, greetings, I'm from Indonesia. I just found this video and I just realized that your N MAX and PCX only have 125cc cubic. Both of which in my place Indonesia have 155cc cubication and 4 valves with the same model and appearance as in your place. Only distinguished by the choice of colors. FYI : Prices for both now in 2022 around £1,850 (non ABS), and £2,054 (ABS+Traction Control).
in europe you dont need a licence if it is 125 cc
I test rode an Nmax 155 last year and was shocked at much room there is. I´m 186cm (6´1") and could easily stretch my legs out and move back freely. Very comfortable even for hour-long journeys. I weigh 110kg so I definitely would have wanted the extra power of the 155.
I went for the Xmax 300 instead though, mainly because of the power. It isn´t nearly as roomy as the Nmax unfortunately and you start to feel cramped after around 90 minutes in the saddle.
Yamaha should make an Nmax 300 and I would buy it in a heartbeat.
My heigh is juste 183cm and tomorow i buy my N max 125. The 155 and 125 has the same high ?
@@nicoleburger3962 Yes. Only difference is power output
@@Watson2108 okay thx you very much good night .😄
Nmax 155 is sold like a hot cake in Indonesia, with how insane modification culture here, people prefer a Build-Up Nmax than X Max, mainly because of the design ..
thank you for your important comment! im 6'1 too.. did you test honda forza 125 also?
I own a Yamaha nmax 2021 the blue just like in this video was originally going to get the Honda but so glad I didn’t the nmax has been so reliable to me haven’t let me down once mega fast the only down point is not being able to get a helmet under the seat but other than that a brilliant bike overall
Hi I thinking to get one as well what’s the top speed on it?
Just flip it over and face the rear end, done!
@@Ak-it4mr 67mph. Providing you've ran it in for 600miles. You can then open it up after the first service.
@@Ak-it4mr sorry for the late reply max 65mph but I have managed to gain speeds of 70mph
I will definitely vote the PCX scooter because it is my favorite since, the 2014 model
Didn't mention that the NMAX has a rear disc brake..where as the PCX has a drum rear brake...So I would assume braking would be better on the NMAX.
2 disques sur Yamaha
We compare the various attributes in our written feature, which you can find here: www.carolenash.com/tips-guides/bike-reviews/detail/125cc-scooter-shootout-honda-pcx-125-v-yamaha-nmax
While the NMAX has stronger and better specified brakes, the PCX is still very competent and we are sure most riders will be happy with either.
*VVA ( Variable valve actuation)
Didn't speak about the main thing yamaha has both abs brakes which is more safe to ride specially on winter and honda has one abs front break
Brake not break🤔
More safe to drive for what? The maximum kilometres U can have with these both is an average of 100 km so who needs both abs for a speed of that ?
I think you are dumb 😂@@Akaros21
Excellent review. Short sweet and to the point.
I think I like the Honda more, but I don't think it'd fit me at 6'2 plus.
Wonderful comparison. I wonder if there is a lot of difference in engine power between the 155 and 125cc NMAX. Thanks for sharing this. :)
Yamaha should stay to their classic game, honda is just a name, Yamaha is luxury comfort and confidence
@@BlingJ. Yesterday I rode the PCX. Would love to try also the NMAX. :) Drop by mate, you may like my content. :)
In Asia Yamaha NMAX has 155cc & Honda PCX 157c. Both are awesome scooters
in Europe too, i got a yamaha 155cc but you may buy 125 cc...
@@romisneider6758 Oh is that so... Good on ya more options. Xmax 125 looks cool too. We dont have that here in Asia Xmax300 only
I'm a Honda fan but in this case I'm picking Yamaha abs is just one reasons why
The Honda has CBS and ABS.
I have a pcx 125 love it
very good video gentlemen, thanks for it, now I finally msde my choice)) greetings from Berlin!
I wish reviews/comparisons would mention rider height. I'm 6'3 and don't want to be riding around with my knees in the way. Great video though! I think it's the Yamaha for me.
If it helps, I'm the same height and tried the Nmax '24 at a dealership, legs fit easily and had no issues of handlebars knocking my knees when turning which I had on a lot of scooters
@@NsABullitzZ Awesome, that does help! Thanks very much. I've been renting an NIU NQI electric thing. It's cool but it's a push to get a 4-hour delivery shift out of the batteries.
Didn't know that this both scooters is available let alone one of the best selling there, both are really popular here in indonesia, and both are cheaper here than there, for Nmax 155 cost around 1600 GBP but I'm not sure about the feature though
Cheaper because made in China - closer to you.
@@dancolombo6050 Ah yeah you're right, but actually it's assembled here in Indonesia and i just realized that
Nice review but for the life of moped scooter buyers why doesn't anyone ever compare the Piaggio medley with the usual 125's.. no where onYT....
Thanks for the video
its a shit
Sauf qu'il faut mettre le casque à l'envers dans le coffre du Yamaha, sangle de serrage dessus et visière vers l'arrière !! J'ai un N MAX 2021 et le casque rentre.
Trop de galère alors que le pcx tu le jette le casque limite !
In 2024, I think Honda is a little better! 🤩Anyway, both are in the Top 3 125cc.
Hi. Im from the Philippines and I have a Yamaha Nmax 155. I don't think I've seen a 125cc version here. Just curious why that is. I bought mine for around 2300 GBP. I'm wondering is there really a difference? Did Yamaha just make a bigger engine with the same performance just to make it look good for the local market?
125cc are usually for the European market, and 150cc is mostly found in Italy! You have to have 150cc minimum to go on the highway there, while the rest can go with 125cc.
There is a basic A1 licence in the uk that limit the size of the engine. I think they made the 125cc to address a larger market
Which is more restful for 100 milles sort trip ?
Lol the headlights on the nmax look ridiculous 😂 They are good scooters though! The sitting position is more comfortable. Better brakes and take off speeds. Though smaller tank and uses slightly more fuel than the pcx
But the nmax has better headlights for night time use.. the pcx light is about as useful as using candles😂
@@JDMz PCX lights are dope. But it doesn't matter. I am on a Suzuki bandit 650 now :d
6,3 here , which one is more comfy ?
Handsome Nmax
Honda PCX still uses a drum brake at the rear, WITHOUT ABS!
In 2021 😂
Well honda won't replace the drum brakes because it's that reliable. Why would they replace something that works. Lol
@@JDMz Why not keep what works for the front wheel too?
@@whyh the pcx has never had a front drum brake though. Always had a disc brake on the front. Being today's world. Most bikes are equipped with abs. Or cbs.
@@JDMz All bikes in the past had drum brakes, although PCX is too new to have gone through that for front brakes.
So why hasn't Honda kept what worked? Why would they replace something that works?
Piaggio Medley all the way.. bigger boot, more comfortable, bigger wheels, F/R abs, equal bhp, longer wheel base, better for motorways (bigger wheels), same price if not cheaper and liquid cooled. Your welcome 🌝
With more electric/electronic glitches. Let alone those cracked plastic parts being "fried" next to the hot engine over the time.
@@darcychu9652
🤣🤳🏾x¹⁰....👍
Nah its definitily not more comfortable
@@MeisterEder1 Piaggio is laughing at you. Definitely more comfortable than the nmax, sh and pcx for sure, just going by the difference in size alone of the front forks for the medley is a good clue and the longer wheelbase helps also and larger front tyre as well irons out the bumps a lot better than the fore mentioned models. Thanks
And if you're on a CBT and L plates it's not £60 a month. More like £50 a month just for insurance. Do your direct access folks. But scooters rock.
Yamaha should stay to their classic game, honda is just a name, Yamaha is luxury comfort and confidence
Very good review
Here in Malta, the Honda is more expensive than the Yamaha.
Review of NMAX150cc and PCX160cc
Here in Philippines we have 155cc version of those. Why you only have 125ccs?
Because in Europe you need special motorcycle licence to drive more than 125cc. In my country i can ride these 125cc bikes with my car licence. That's the main reason i bought my Pcx
Still something was left unsaid. Yamaha is looking awful next to that beauty
talking about the n max its called vva
My biggest concern is about yamaha under seat storage,no place for helmet,this is sick
The Honda PCX 125 is the best❤
When you are longer than 185cm you must choose the pcx 125. By all the yamaha scooters xmax etc the steering wheel Will hit the knee
I'm 180cm but have long legs and the handlebars of the pcx also hit my legs when turning sharply, its actually less of an issue on the nmax for me. Best advice is probably sit on it for yourself before buying.
@@alexanderhetzel8271 you can easily put the steering wheel in another higher position with the 4 bolts. I have a pcx 125 and did the same. By the yamaha, s is that not posible.
@@roepieroepie5333 Good point, the steering tube may not look as "refined" as the one on the Yamaha as some reviewers call it, but it is more useful as it is just a standard motorcycle arrangement.
Great video, like others. 10+😀
Yamaha !!
A PCX sokkal szebb és átgondoltabb! A hátsó dobfék legyen a legnagyobb "hibája"!A nagyobb jobban világító fényszórói,a kényelmesebb ülése,az informálisabb kijelző sokkal vonzóbbá teszik,az opcionális nagyszélvédővel meg szuper!
We want those Hondas in south africa
Honda more better
I have driven the PCX, lovely bike, only thing bothered me was my hot ass, the seat became little to hot when driving(i drove it in Thailand), if i ever will buy one, i try to find a cooler seat, for the rest it was comfy, even when i drove around 100km, with my gf on the back...
Why is nmax and pcx in southeast asia are 155cc, meanwhile this is 125cc.
in europe u need a different license to drive scooters higher than 125 cc
In the UK. If your 17. You are restricted to 125s. Until you pass your full bike test at 21 then you can ride anything you want
pcx !!!! perfect !!!
go for piaggio medley
Yamaha sharp in looks and honda is bulky I think both are 👍
I went for the SYM Jet X 125 cc
Should of gone for honda or yamaha. The syms are shite. Wait until you need a part for it. 2month waiting list.
@@JDMz already sold it, got the 2021 Kymco Xciting 400i
@@JDMz this 😂
Nmax有125嗎？
Its a shame Honda doesnt have a bike inbetween the PCX and the Forza..as its a fare old jump in price between the two. Yes they have other scooters..but not in the same style. Yamaha have the Nmax then the Xmax then the Tmax........why Honda is not doing the same I don't know. Ok there is no 125 Tmax...but I am talking about pricing...they stick a "Upgraded" PCX between the standard and the 125 Forza they'd be onto a winner.. Though that might put a dent in Forza sales and also the standard PCX. But really...in todays times the PCX should have a rear disc brake. Well...it does..in Asia...why not here?
The sh125i is pretty decent also faster than both
@@JDMz The PCX and Forza allows you to put your legs out a little in front of you. I suffer from arthristis and being in the seated postion of the SH125i may not be the most comfortable as my knees get sore could lock. I need to be able to stretch out a little.
There are more brands in Asia to compete.
@@darcychu9652 Yes...but it shoudlnt mean we in the West should have to put up with less choice and in my opinion down graded scooter eg having a rear drum brake instead of disc to save money on their part and make more money out of UK customers. On saying that..the US does get the some of the larger cc versions of the scooter. As always the UK gets the basics at high prices....Maybe in a few years they will put a disc on the rear of the PCX. Then they'll crow about it saying "look at what we've done"...oh but you will have to pay a premium....when the scooter could and should of had it years ago!!...Taken for mugs.
@@Bodneyblue I suffer from arthritis. And I used an sh125. Never had issues. I also only have 1 arm.
I ll go for the yamaha. Honda s face is really not my cup of tea.
Both are small, but Yamaha looks more like a toy.
I have both .
Yamaha easily wins
Both of these bike are the most stolen scooters in the uk where i live i wouldnt bother buying one buy a Chinese bike less likely to get stolen
Indonesian market it 155cc😅
holly fuck bro
IT is like comparing shit with birthday cake. Pcx being a cake
Honda is wank 🤣
@@Unknownddddd if its "wank" why have they out sold the nmax. Why is the keyless system more reliable than nmax🤣🤣🤣
@@JDMz which do you recommend? pcx or nmax? can't make my mind up lol
@@R88TEDwhat scooter you buy man ? Because I’m in your situation now , thx
@@0range330 I went with the nmax, really recommend it.