CATAMARAN vs MONOHULL: Price & Performance
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2019
- Which sailboat is best: Catamaran or Monohull? We have our friends Ruby Rose visiting and we're taking about sailings biggest debate: cat vs mono.
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00:50 - The Wynns Short Catamaran Story
01:12 - Why Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose joined us
02:08 - Meet Ruby Rose
03:17 - ...and the Monohull they're selling
04:59 - Price - Mono vs Cat
07:21 - Marina Fees - Cat vs Mono
10:45 - Maintenance
11:40 - Haul Out Fees
13:54 - Catamaran vs Monhull Price Takeaway
14:36 - Performance
15:05 - Speed
16:45 - Best Sailing Angles
17:34 - The Sailing Suckage Zone
18:49 - The Comfortable Sailing Zone
19:32 - Engines: Motoring in Cuts, Passes and Foul Current
22:20 - Our Catamaran Sailing Disaster Story
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If there's one thing we've learned over the past few years of sailing around the world: There's no perfect sailboat! The catamaran vs monohull debate is mostly hype and we've done our best to stay away from adding to the noise.
When we heard our friends from Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose are thinking of selling their monohull to purchase a catamaran, we invited them to come crew with us...and that led to talks of cruising life in a mono vs a cat.
We were talking about it anyway so why not film and share? In this video we're discussing price and performance.
We hope you find this conversation based on our collective experiences helpful. If you're in the market to purchase a sailboat remember the Mantra: Spend Smart and Stress Less. Monohull or multihull...in the end the best boat is the one you can afford to purchase now.
⭐ After you hit that play button we'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments below: What's you're preferred style of sailboat? Are you in the Monohull or Catamaran camp...or maybe you'd prefer to sail a mono but cruise in a cat? What's your favorite brand? It's always fascinating to read what draws each person to one type/brand/style of sailboat.
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- Jason, Nikki, Cleo and Singa 😻
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The one thing this made us realise is how much we miss you two. We hope we can catch up somewhere in the world real soon, whether that is in the USA, Europe or someplace crazy.
Watching the 4 of you together is really a lot of fun! We all hope you can meet up again.
On a Cat😉😂
I think you guys need to go stay on Ruby Rose.
I like both of y'all's channels!
I have been watching both channels as well as a few others. I’ve been so inspired by this life style that it is now the goal I’m working towards.
I often ask myself why do I read, watch, listen to things that I know I will never use or apply and I always come up with the same answer. Knowledge / learning is like a Swiss Army Knife. Thank You Guys for adding to my cluttered mind. Cheers!!!
😂 You are welcome!
I agree I wish I felt this way in school
Yeah you never know when you'll be at the helm of a catamaran. -😂🍻🌿💙🇱🇷✝️
Having sailed a 36' McGregor cat in the Marshall islands, three things: 1. No bruise sailing. Boat doesn't heel over anywhere like a mono hull. 2. Most stable position of heavy keeled monohull is on the bottom. Most stable position for most cats is just upside down. We could fill our cat with water and sail away. 3. Speed 4. Watched a long term cruising family jump over the side and swim to shore at an anchorage during a typhoon. Their boat was pitching an rolling too much to allow sleep. (Of course being on the shore watching their boat didn't make sleeping very easy either). Our Cat was just going thru some more gentle pitching motion. No roll. TWO HULLS TO CLEAN. While we had seen 22kts under sail, the normal cruise speed was more like 9kts and even then on some seas you had to watch jumping off the back of a wave into the face of another, risking pitchpoleing. Didn't enjoy passages as they, even with the numerous squalls, were boring. We didn't have an autopilot though so constant hand steering was required.
My husband and I had this discussion for years. He was a 4th generation boat builder. Our first boat together was a small racing catamaran. The question of speed always made us lean towards the catamaran as our choice to circumnavigate the world. My best friend (husband) went to work one day & at the age of 50 died of a heart attack. My point is: do your homework... but, just go for it! These folks did and I loved their collaboration. ~ Love from a fellow Texas sailor💙
RedEyeOfJupiter 2121 ...I am.... although I’m doing it in a land yacht. I’ve been a full-time rv traveler for over a year now. 20,000 miles so far. Thank you for your kind words💕
This was a fantastic conversation by two of my favorite creators. Thank You Guys. I learned a lot and will put this info to good use.
happy to share Zach...& thanks for the kind comment.
When I used to ride motorcycles often I was asked what is my favourite bike. My answer was always the same; the one I am riding now. My sense is it would be the same regarding sailboats.
I own a monohull, a big fat bottomed girl, cutter rigged Bayfield 32 and for me, right now, everything considered, I love it. Either the boat suits my sailing habits, or my sailing habits suit the boat, but it works. I’m sure if I owned a cat I’d feel exactly he same.
That said If I’m shopping for my next boat, price is a defining factor and would probably take the cat out of the equation, but if the boat has sails and Mother Nature is giving me some wind, I’ll still be thrilled.
A discussion that never gets old! We bought our monohull (Catalina 42) instead of a catamaran, simply due to price. We just couldn’t afford to even consider a catamaran. But, all things being equal, we would have gone for a cat. Just for the room. Offshore, I’d rather be in a mono hull, but we just don’t spend much time offshore. Enjoyed your video!
One thing that SV Delos found with their series on Cat vs Mono was the Cat sailors say you have to de-tune the sails a bit to keep the stresses down on a cat. With a mono it automatically spills wind by healing. The cat won't do that so the shrouds take on a lot more stress. This sounds like a wise discovery and ultimately it means the potential speed gap between a cat and a mono is less.
I really did enjoy Nick and Terysa's videos of the week they spent with you. Because of that, I'm now following them, even though I had watched a couple of their catamaran shopping videos.
I'm glad you all were able to get together. Now, we just need to get you guys hooked up with Zatara and family!
When I win that lottery, I'll be following in your wake!
Zatara! Yes!👍
Speaking of Zatara, I believe they are also in French Polynesia right now. So should be somewhere close.
@@DE1049 which is why I said what I said.
Love Ruby Rose boat reviews. Great choice for this discussion. Hope you had a great week.
3rd!! Sunday inspiration with the Wynns!! Nothing better especially with ☕️! As always safe travels and stay safe💕💕
A good listen. Great conversational charisma amongst this group's dynamic. All spoke to the topic in appropriate measure. Thanks for the info
As the old saying goes, “One sailboat is sailing, two sailboats are racing!”
Thank you for another great conversation. You continue to produce high quality, entertaining, and informative content!
Listening to this conversation I was struck by the experience you've gained since you started. Even better, your ability to explain your experience in practical and pragmatic ways. Well done!
We’ve only had Motor Yachts. I couldn’t imagine being healed over in a monohull while sailing, and/or rolling at anchor all day & night while listening to the rigging clanking & rattling. Plus I enjoy 20 plus knots to get while the getting is good...But hey that’s just me
Great Video as Always, and no fists were flying...😂😂😂
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That wonderful keel on Ruby Rose makes her a my favorite monohull. I like heavy displacement mono and cat sailboats for their comfort in rough seas and their load carrying capacity, compared to low displacement ones. Speed is nice but it rates below a high displacement boat for cruising. If my choice was between a Southerly or a Lagoon of the same length, I would chose the Lagoon. This was an excellent discussion and I cannot wait for Part 2.....thank you, both couples!!!!
My two favorite sailing channels, what a treat to see you all together! Happy to say I support both and enjoy all of your videos. Thanks for sharing
So nice to see the sun go down and your boat swinging from the water movement.
I agree, Nick and Terysa's video series of this visit is binge-worthy
A conversation on which sailboat is best , Catamaran or Monohull , for that long and not turning into at least one call for a " Man overboard " is simply amazing ! Shows Sailors do have more fun ! I think for the question for survival is that a mono in a really bad storm , can flip all the way around and up again , were as a cat flips , and it is just holding on praying for help to arrive . Although very rare , thank God ! There was a movie about this in 2015 called "Abandoned " which took place near New Zealand . Your video was Great on a never ending subject !
1st. Watched the video all the way through. Got out and came back in and now 2052! That's roughly 89 people a minute! You guys rock!
This was so fun!! We spent about 10 days in the BVI’s on a 2007 Leopard 420 this past Christmas, and we loved it! It was fun to pretend we were Jason and Nikki for a few days!
after watching few of these mono vs cat, i feel most start off with mono then upgrade to cat later when they want comfort to live aboard and have enough money saved to upgrade. either way you have the same experience when visiting islands and same experience sailing in storms.
My two favorite sailing channels in one video!
Not something I'm terribly interested in, mainly because I couldn't drag my wife on to a sailboat with a brace of Clydesdales, but informative nonetheless. Personally I think it's basically the Ford/Chevy debate. Everyone on each side thinks they have the better craft but you all did a really good job showing that the debate is really all about 10% and the other 90% is about equal. Good job you two, and keep the videos coming.
And you know his how? Oh yea, because you don't! Please keep your unkind comments to another channel or better yet to yourself because no one cares but you.
This is a great conversation. As much as I’ve watched and read on this topic, there are always new points to take away in each discussion. I’m looking forward to part two.
I loved listenning to this discussion, especially knowing which direction Nick and Terysa have chosen for their next boat. Thank you for another great video :)
That was a very thoughtful and gracious thing you did about the boats. Bless you both, wonderful video. 👍👍😊
The combined knowledge of this group is amazing! Gained experience by living full time on a boat is priceless. Thinking back on the RV days seems like a million years ago.
The way I evaluate the relative values in comparing mono-hulls v. catamarans must include price per square foot and/or price per cubic foot. When you do that the catamarans often work out to cost less and are a better value.
Also, I believe that all categories are not equal; and therefore, a weighted average to account for which factors are more important than others must be used. This weighted average is highly personal but look to what you do most often and what categories contribute to increasing your confidence in sailing or enjoyment at both anchor or sailing.
Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose has videos which use five categories: safety & design, build quality, interior design, performance, and value for money. Their videos offer lots of valuable information. My issue is whether each category is of equal weight.
Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate anyone that can have an unbiased, calm discussion about their decisions and beliefs. This has been debated by sooo many cruisers. Thanks for being less "(ding ding ding) LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!". Too much of that in general lately.
Great comparison, looking forward to part 2. I noted your conversation on Antifouling and from experience we had a 51 monohull with a 7 foot draft and now a 48 foot Catamaran with 4 ft draft. We use less antifouling on the catamaran as there is so much less surface area below the waterline, even though we have 2 hulls. Keep up the great work guys and thanks.
Great conversation and thanks for introducing me to Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose.
In a nut shell, cats sail ON the water, mono’s sail IN the water. Cats are faster, more spacious, better to entertain on. Monos are cheaper to own, safer in heavy weather, and Point marginally higher. They also cost less. After a Cyclone/Hurricane, you may see monos washed up on beaches, but you don’t see them flipped upside down like a turtle on their back. Cats are faster, much more spacious and deep down, I think 98% of us mono owners have a deep secret fantasy of owning a nice cat one day...
Pretty much it. But when I get my nice cat, it will be when my heavy weather sailing is over. Also Cats have shallower drafts. Also I've heard that Cats are not good upwind - and the difference is more than marginal - but I don't have my own experience on Cats.
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fucking millennials and their catamarans. mono for life.
This is what the instant media should be useful for!! Great great hands on sharing and experiences! This should happen across the board on all things mechanical!! It would help cut down our human footprint on the eco system tremendously..... Not as many mistakes, turn ins or just shelved and never used! Great job guys!
Very good episode. Enjoyed it quite a bit. I am not sure about how delayed are your episodes are but the Zatara (Sailing Zatara) is in Tahiti this week and they did make that change from a monohull to a Cat and Keith has sworn that he would never go back. This is the second time they’re in Tahiti and they started with the same experience as the two of you at around the same time. Perhaps you can search them out and get their feelings and feedback on the move to a catamaran. Your’s and their channels are the two that I look forward to watching. Keep up the fantastic work.
The Wynns are no longer in French Polynesia but I'm sure they'll bump into each other at some point. Just not literally we hope. :)
Curious Minion
Nicely done! Looking forward to hearing part 2.
The backdrop in your discussion about mono vs multi hull boats is just surreally outrageous. The cocktails are a multiplier.
The information about which type of boat allows my fantasy to go to the next level because any sailing in the South Pacific I do will be as a visual stowaway on your boat.
Great videos, stories. Lots of fun! Thank you.
Finally! Been waiting forever! Good conversation!
I really enjoyed this segment! Best wishes to both boats and especially the crews! Thank you!
Can't everyday be a Sunday with a new Wynns video? Great shots on the dive and the trip out of the atol! ....Wait, how did I get on this video???
You guys rock. Thanks for sharing. I haven't been by for a while but this was suddenly at the top of my feed and I thought, "The Wynns!!! I remember, I _love_ these guys!"
Not the usual stunning video of seascapes and mountainsides but interesting nonetheless with hearing the different perspectives. Looking forward to next Sunday morning. Till then, you both be safe.
Very informative! Thank you all.
Nice one! Some really good perspective on this comparison. Looking forward to the next one.
WOW, you folks certainly covered a whole lot of valuable points. Thanks for sharing all.
Hi there this is Sunday the 7th of July. I am here at my desktop watching my favorite family the Wynns. Cleo, Singra, Niki and Jayson. And I prefer the Catamaran. YOU HAVE MORE SPACE LEFT TO RIGHT. PERIOD. YOU MAY HAVE A LONGER FRONT TO BACK ON A MONO HAUL but I prefer the left to right space. Period again.
@Geoff Strebel but you've wasted a mimosa, leaving it out all day. Now it's warm and flat. Mimosa 1 - Geoff 0.
@Geoff Strebel Touche! Well played sir
i love this, so honest and fantastic lighting might I add!
Excellent advice, comparisons and information. Thankyou so much guys for making this very informed video 👍💯😊
This was such a great conversation! I must admit, I am more of a monohull kind of person, but I certainly can appreciate the advantages of catamarans.
A lovely discussion where pro and contra points of each type of boat are honestly revealed to us.Thanks for letting us to be a part of it!
I loved this video on the Monohaul vs the catamaran.. I agree it is the most asked question when someone goes and buys a boat.. for personally I would choose the catamaran owners hull only because of the separation from the guests or family... I also get scared just looking at a monohaul on its side in the water it looks as though it's going to fall over😊 Thank you for sharing some beautiful pictures and this weeks amazing video... love b.c. you guys along with Miss Cleo and Singa💜💜💜💜💜💜💞💞💞💞💞💞😎😎😎😎😎😎💜🌺🍇🌺🍇🌺🍇🌺
Great discussion with Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose on marinas, haul out, and more!
First time here, just subbed, due to Nick saying "this is the go-to for catamaran" comment. Thanks for the content!!
You guys should get both your boats in the same pond at the same time and buddy boat, island hop together for a couple of months together, you would absolutely blow up youtube on both your chanels. Great Vid.
Wouldn't that be amazing!?
@@sailingrubyrose or Jason and Niki could visit you in the Med on the mono
True dat
Wouldn't that be fun. It would sure make for great videos.
That would be good..or better yet, buddy boat w/Riley and Elayna of *Sailing La Vagabond* :-)
Yes! I already have seen all the Ruby/Wynns Videos on their channel. :-)
Great real-world and experienced discussion - thanks guys.
Great fun and info....I have been watching Ruby Rose ever since they visited you. Love their comparisons on cats.....so informative.
Thanks for this discussion. That was wonderful
Great! I'm a fan of both The WYnn's and SYRR so it was a great discussion to see and learn from. ALso, I loved the backdrop :) Life is good!
Loved this vid, thanks guys, you have the best channel on you tube
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Great video, I struggled with the cat vs mono as well and decided to build my own cat to get everything that is important to me in my boat. Buy vs build might be an interesting show.
Cheers
Great Discussion! Really good vibes tween you’s sailors.... Looking forward to Part II.
I was wondering when you guys would finally mention Ruby Rose. Its great to see because I really enjoyed the videos on their page. I follow about 5 different V-Logs about sailing around the world but yours is definitely my favorite!!
Great episode.. lots to consider.. haul out.. especially..
Absolutely wonderful episode - probably the best discussion on the subject that I’ve seen or read.
480 is fine just happy to watch you guys do great work thanks
Great video guys. My wife and I are planning on becoming sailors this video really shows pros and cons, awesome job😁
Nice seeing the four of you together again. Two great couples.
It seems your having N&T crew on your boat has converted Nick to a catamaran as they are currently shopping for one.
One misconception I would like to add to the debate about "extra costs for 2 engines on a cat". Let's say you change oil on an engine every 100 hours, for example. If you alternate the running your Cat engines, port side for 100 and starboard for the next 100, you are changing oil the exact same amount as on a monohull! You are just getting HALF the wear and tear. By the time you have to replace both engines, a monohull, under the same sailing conditions with a similar engine size, will have needed to replace their's twice.
Great point!
Moorea was my favorite place I've ever cruised to. Like Heaven on Earth.
Great discussion, great points touched on, individual consideration price, current planned destinations and anchoring or Marina cruising. Thank you so much to Jason, Nikki, Nick, Tyresa. ⛵🏝️
I’m a fan of both your channels, and have really enjoyed this whole cat vs mono storyline. Re. The comment about ‘how much boat the engine is pushing through the water.’ Remember, cats tend to ride on top of the water, and monos go through the water. So even though you’re pushing 2 hulls instead of one, overall, I would imagine there is less surface area ‘in the water’, especially if you take into account the heavy keel. Also, regarding hauling a cat out for emergency repairs, if you get the right cat (daggerboards, etc) you can beach it. Lastly, I always feel like sailing in a mono is like 5 people living in a pup-tent on a hill. Whereas, a catamaran is more like a London apartment (flat). Obviously this is subjective, and not all monos are that small and claustrophobic, but you get the idea. Looking forward to part 2.
It seems the comparison is always being made with both types being similarly sized....not fair. Of course a 43 Cat is superior to a 40 Mono except in deep water gale conditions. The comparison I would make is between a 40- 45 Cat and a 55-65 Mono. I think the " at anchor" space and comfort is similar in that context. As far as at sail? It depends on the type of motion you prefer. Regardless..nice video as usual by both couples and a interesting subject.
Suckage Zone ... LOL :D Kidding aside, this was one of the most enlightening episodes I've seen yet. I'm looking forward to Part 2.
Nice to see you 4 crazy kids together. Good personalities on one boat. When I took ASA 106 one of the guys in my class said "there are plenty of boats to dream about but choosing one will get you out there before dreaming about the perfect boat, there are plenty of hunters all over the world, what does that tell you"... this was after a conversation about how hunters are pretty but we all feel like we wouldn't go off shore in one. We were on an Island Packet 40... that think was like driving an Abrams and we were in a gail for 3 days... It was crazy! But that was pretty good advice I think.
As for the storm... It was Wild and I was lucky to be part of the group. The school said they felt like we were about the best students they have so they didn't ground us. We set sail and all hell broke loose as we sailed out of the Chesapeake.
The one thing I've heard repeatedly regarding the cat vs mono argument is the point of sail. The reason that mono-hulls can sail tighter is because their keel is larger. If you increase the keel on the cat it'll make that same angle, as shown by cats using dagger boards.
This video was fast and Informative and funny . I laughed out load . I really miss sailing but you all bring it to me in a wonderful way . Thanks for all the fun adventures . HAPPY TRAILS --- RUSTY REEF .
Great conversation. Lots of knowledge
GREAT, GREAT, GREAT conversation! We watched Ruby Rose a few weeks ago aboard Curiosity and was glad to see you guys follow that up. Fair winds!
I like a Cat due to the comfort and space 😎. Nice vlog xxx
I’m an armchair UA-cam sailor. For some reason I luv watching sailing channels and dreaming of living the life that you guys are living. For me I don’t think I could deal with being healed over all the time when on a lengthy passage. For that reason I would have to go with a catamaran and also having so much additional space. Damn I wish I hadn’t pissed so much money away in my younger years and saved more so I could afford to buy a cat and see the world. Maybe in my next life. 😢
Good banter, intelligent conversation & educational, well done guys very entertaining too👍
Cool conversation. Couple of notes I’d add. When I compare the two, for space and price its a 40 foot cat vs a 46 foot mono to get comparable value. So, bottom paint, two skinny hulls vs one fat hull the difference isn’t double. Engine maintenance? The quantity of oil is negligible. The real factor is doing the job twice. When it’s a repeatable task the time drops with proficiency which you have more of plus the recent with doing it twice. Plus, with two people, do it simultaneously and you have the benefit of a race or methodology or whatever. Slower if you only have one drain pan. Speed. Compare the happy medium that you actually operate in. Max vs max isn’t usually that realistic in cruisers. What about sailing around weather or a squall? The wind is usually within the sweet spot for either style so better speed with the cat gives you more options and therefore safety. That’s enough iPad typing for now. Thanks for the content and conversation.
Good afternoon! My husband and myself were watching your talk with the other couple about the Cat. It was funny we also watch their videos also!😁 Sure enjoyed it.
Probably the best cat vs mono discussion I have seen. Thank you.
So glad you posted this. As previously commented, I was in the market for a 30-35' cat. Every marina that I want to be in can't accommodate the beam unless I take a 50' slip. So, now I'm looking for a 40-50' mono, full length shallow keel, sloop rigged center cockpit. The one thing it must have is a separate shower stall. Everything else can be dealt with or changed.
GREAT TO SEE YOU TWO COUPLES TOGETHER- I HAVE WATCH THE RUBY ROSE VIDEOS
Another great video 😊 Nikki, you look so much like Audrey Hepburn in this one. Has anyone ever told you that? You were giving me Breakfast at Tiffany’s vibes🙌🏽🙌🏽
That sunset makes a nice backdrop.
Excellent topic ,got a lot from both sides of the coin.looking forward to the next one 👍
Great convo. Well done.
You guys are a gas love the video I started watching Ruby Rose because of you guys and I enjoy their channel too.keep up the great work and have fun sailing
Thanks for the great comparison...
Great talk :-) You covered some very good points...
Along with following you guys , my Wife and I also follow Ruby Rose . It's really awesome to have both you guys in the same video . Much love from Niagara Falls N.Y .
Another aspect of the debate that seldom gets addressed is the issue of beaching. Very, very few cats seem to be built with beaching in mind, but a number of the shallow-/swing keel monos come equipped with twin rudders so the boat can be beached and dried out. Their Southerly is one such boat. On the cat side, boats such as the Maverick and Antares are both explicitly designed to enable beaching. I suspect your Leopard, with its skegged rudders and shaft drives, would beach just fine, even if it isn't expressly encouraged.
With all the knowledge gleaned from excellent vlogs such as this there is no doubt that we'll be going cat with our 3 x cats!! Thanks guys!
Love your comparing types of boat.
Really price point should be the standard for comparing sailboats, feet are subjective since cats are almost twice in area and more expensive. Maybe comparing a 43 ft cat vs a 50 ft mono would be better. The thing I liked the most of what you said is that catamarans retain more value, that’s important. Anyway I would like to know what you can get with 250,000 dlls in cats and monohauls .
I liked your video a lot though. To be honest I had other channels that I preferred in the past but now you’re on the top of my list. You are great people.
I'll throw in my two cents having spent time on both. If you plan on living on it with more than two people Catamaran is hands down the best option. More stable, faster cruise on sail and it's basically a floating condo, can't beat it, no monohull can compete. If you're going bigger than 55ft you can probably get away with either