A Detrans Story, with Luka Hein
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2023
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Imagine a psychiatrist telling a schizophrenic that the voices in their head are real and they should do what the voices tell them. It's absolutely insane that they just affirm their mental illness.
“Gender Professionals” are doing just that, believe it or not.
I had a schizophrenic friend in the 1970s who was sectioned and moved away from Cardiff where I was living and I lost touch. Pete was a crossdresser and gay. He sometimes said he was a "Ladytron from Sirius." Today he would probably have been told he was a transwoman, not sure about the Sirius origin claim though. I have seen a lot of discussion about how people identify, well, there are a lot of people around today who identify as alien beings. Unlike Pete, they are not classed as schizophrenic but may call themselves "starseeds." Should people who identify as aliens be affirmed as such?
"They affirmed the chaos into reality by going along with it." that was a powerful statement.
I missed that. Who is the "they" in that sentence?
This is the utter condemnation of psychiatric, psychological and medical butchery that passes itself off as doing no harm. Evil exists.
I have a hard time believing that people on the medical side of this are doing this with good motives.
@@saracorbin1152 unfortunately evil is banal. Evil is not some special case of someone else. It is a set of social and personal conditions that make an unconscionable act seem normal.
P.S. that doesn't mean we don't try our best but as soon as you think evil is someone else over there you mistake it's relatively simple and boring foundations.
It is not evil, it is CRIME!
@@olgalyubechanskaya7427 unfortunately it's not a crime. That is the problem.
In Australia trying to talk someone out of tansition is almost a crime. They are trying to modify the conversion therapy laws (banning the attempt to force convert gay people to strait.) to include therapy of Trans or any attempt at self identity.
It's Eugenics and population control by another name, and I'm dead serious about that.
🇬🇧This discussion confused my dogs on our walk this morning. I was so upset, angry, incredulous and vocal about Luca’s story that the dogs thought I was calling them back all the time!
The healthcare system is hurting so many young people that we are going to be feeling this for the next 70-80 years at least. As a children nurse who retired 5 years ago- I am so sorry that this is happening and the only way I feel I can help now is support the many platforms that are highlighting this issue. Thank you both. 🇬🇧.
Thank you I feel exactly the same
The birth control part really hit me :( My doctor tried to put me on hormonal contraceptives at 15 because painful periods caused me to be absent from school and I was getting in trouble with the administration despite being one of those kids who got straight A's and took a full load of AP classes. It was too expensive to visit the Dr every month to get an excuse note so getting BC on insurance would be cheaper. I refused to take it and almost wasn't allowed to graduate despite being one of the top students.
It's disgusting that people jump to medicating young people with really serious, life altering drugs rather than fixing the system that puts an undue burden on them because of their natural biology. That would be real feminism. I am just thankful I missed the trans stuff by a few years.
That's crazy, but I've met girls who are barely 18 who are already on permanent birth control. I can't help but think that it can't be healthy.
So true! The Spanish feminists were able to get women and girls “menstrual leave” from work and schools added to their “sick leave” policies. I was so impressed. We need to be finding better solutions here. Every social justice “cause” here is so useless.
Luka, I am so grateful you found your way out of all this. There are SO MANY kids who don't and have a hard time figuring out who they REALLY are later in life. And yes, we are all just still trying to figure it out as adults but adolescence is such an important phase to build a foundation. My oldest daughter went through a lot of this. She was sure she was trans and I allowed her to explore with serious boundaries (it's very sad when I think about all of those kids who WERENT given boundaries). She was so angry with me sometimes....im thrilled to say that she is now 19 and just gave birth to my first grand baby! She has a much more strong grasp on being the woman she is, whatever kind of woman that is. You can be whatever kind of woman you want to be and everyone else's view of that doesn't matter.
Thanks for platforming this story ❤
Suzanne Vega's song "Luka" is a song about someone who was abused by someone she trusted. Fitting.
God bless you, Luka.
Get this man more subscribers! He’s one of the best listeners, with such thoughtful interview skills.
Luka, you look a lot like Pam from the Office, which is a compliment. Thanks for sharing your story and stay strong.
Luka, I wish you the best possible healing in every sense. I know physically that‘s not entirely possible but the human body is strong, so is the mind and whatever is possible, the body will try to heal with time. (Less pain, trying to adapt&cope w the changed state)
You‘re a beautiful woman still and a very likeable one it seems from the interview! And I feel your strength, resilience😊
Take care, be well❤
This is all so tragic ….😞😞😞 breaks my heart
Modern Greek Tragedy.
@@chaucerianfraud6767It seems no small coincidence that as we have turned our backs on the wisdom of the ancients, our culture resembles their tragedy dramas.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 What wisdom of the ancients are you referring to? I do not believe in myths. Tragedy is a part of normal human life. Always has been. Always will be.
@@chaucerianfraud6767I don't think they were talking about myths of the ancients. They appear to be referring to cultural events that led to the demise of civilisations in human history.
@@joce11 I think you are wrong.
Thank you Luka for sharing your story. When you were talking about your realization and then reconciliation with your mother I literally cried, it was very powerful.🧡 And also as you said that it ends with _hope_ and being grounded in reality, despite all the bad experiences. All the best to you. 💙
Me too. Heartbreaking to keep apologizing. Luka is a gorgeous, articulate highly intelligent young woman and I am convinced that she has a very bright future ahead. I hope that her story and her positive outlook and grounded way of integrating her experience into her whole self will help many
Stay strong, Luka... The Boyce of Chat has your back!♥
Wow, okay... So, everyone gets uncomfortable and awkward with their bodies when they go through puberty. Its kinda insane that there's people trying to paint that as, "Well, that means you're trans!"
This was a very good interview.
Thank you for this interview.
You’re an amazing woman, take the wonderful strength and knowledge from this horrible situation into your future and understand how much this will make you successful no matter what you decide to do in the future!….the doctors who did this to you should be legally prosecuted! Great questions and conversation..life sure is an adventure…
I'm only 23:00 minutes into the video, but Luka seems to be describing the "trans" online group she was in almost as if the trans stuff was a hobby in itself.
There’s heavy overlap between hobby groups and groups about transition that act like said hobby groups online tbh
Nobody really transitions. People get conned and abused, that's pretty much what transition implies.
Exactly. It's a full court press of deception and exploitation.
Thanks for sharing.
So many bad outcomes to overcome unfortunately natural discomfort. It's like someone read a brave new world and thought yup, what we want to do is proscribe meds/social conditioning to make people never experience the discomfort of life. And thought yes that's what we want.
Keep kids protected, there are always creeps. And tell them that puberty sucks, and that there is no magic bullet. There is no cream, or pill that makes you comfortable in your own skin. That requires work.
Proving to yourself that you are capable valuable human takes work.
LOVE these interviews
FYI 1:11:55 - testosterone being higher in your system absolutely changes the texture of your skin. Estrogen makes the skin feel softer & smoother. If testosterone spikes from taking anabolics or even meds like prednisone that are meant to treat inflammation, it’s not uncommon to notice rougher skin, acne, oily skin, etc.
A wonderful interview! Well done, Luka and Ben! ❤
Everyone that pushes this belief system should be made to watch at least 10 detrans videos before they're allowed to speak publicly about it. I'm almost joking about this.
it's such a shame they don't let boys and especially girls go fully through puberty before trying to confuse / allow them to alter their hormones and body ... she is very pretty even after the testosterone terror
The damage being done. I cannot help but think that the medical fallout in later years will be massive. The full impact of taking puberty blockers & cross sex hormone therapies is not yet fully known, what is known is bones become brittle. Trans activists will be seeking gender affirming care for the cancers that’ll develop.
Thank you so much. I really admire that you are so gracious to share your story with us. Wow. Sending prayers for healing. I hope your body dissociation is better. Mindfulness was so healing for me when I dissociated, I took a course in it. It was more helpful than talk therapy and EMDR.
this was just sooooooo insightful. thank you benajmin and Luka. the section where luka speaks about pronouns and language was positively wonderful. It is exactly how I feel about words and names: if a person forces me to use words I do not wish to use, It diminishes the conversation. If anyone forces another to say things they do not feel or believe, you are creating a relationship that is hostile, ugly and completely unauthentic. And isn't authenticity the goal we are all working towards? Honoring the self? being your true self? Thanks Luka. thanks Ben. The main point I took from this discussion was that the Medical/Pharameutical industry is harming people. How ironic that their mission is "Do NO HARM." these corporations are criminal. Lets move towards a day when drugs/doctors/therapy/mecidince/surgery are being administered by people who are not motivated by finacial gain.
Actually, FWIW, the pharma industry would prefer you not use our medications for this off-label purpose. There have NEVER been meds approved to transition anyone from “one gender to the other” because, scientifically, it’s absurd 😂
I created English subtitles for a documentary on transgender care produced by Swedish public service. It's on my channel.
Thank you. Sweden is in an interesting position since they were “ahead of the curve” in the beginning of affirming care for trans, but then they discovered the issues. I wish Ben could interview someone from Sweden’s government healthcare system because they’re really the foremost experts on the topic. Sweden had the most data due to the fact that they have socialized medicine & had been providing “affirmative care” for years
A lovely interview…
These stories are absolutely mind-blowing. Cannot BELIEVE supposed 'medical professionals' endorse and perform this butchery.
Women in europe do NOT do that. We sometimes ask for a apck that will allow us to miss a period if on holiday...but its not recommended all the time....not AT ALL...
There are pills that do that though. It's not the most common form but I was on a micro pill once that was supposed to be taken without a pause so I didn't get a period. It was recommended because I always had bad side effects from the normal pill. Didn't work either so I stopped completely.
The bleeding when you're on the pill is not a normal period anyways, it is a symptom of withdrawal and only done to mimick a menstrual cycle. So it's generally not worse if you go for something like this. However in her case it was obviously not a normal prescription with her Dad being involved and imo young girls shouldn't be put on medication like that except they're sexually active.
Pure evil. Poor darling 😢 you're so brave to speak out! Thank you ❤
Luka is so talkative and sweet, you'd never guess she'd been through so much hardship.
She's still so young too, I'm sure she'll find good paths in life from now on! ❤🩹❤✨
@4:41 Oh wow, in a way this resonates with why I watch these videos. The problems don't affect me personally, although I have some friends that transitioned, but these videos are great to listen to.
Imagine that, finding pleasure in listening to and pondering about solutions for other people's problems.😂
She does have a pretty face! This whole time I was like damn she so beautiful
The brain isn't even fully mature until around the mid twenties. The personality is in flux until then.
This is absolutely correct. I am now 79 & looking back I don't think that I was thinking like an adult until my early/middle 20's. At the age of 20 I really had no idea what the world was like, but by 25 I had got married, bought by first house & opened my first business. You cannot rush maturity.....
Now it is even late twenties.
The notion of the brain not maturing until 25 or so has gained steam by force of rumor. At every stage of adulthood you will find people having the same problems with clear thinking and feeling as they did at age 25. The process of maturing goes on and on and is not confined to a certain part of brain development. The issue is more holistic. It's about good mental habits.
@@writeisright5948 I'm talking about biology. Psychological development is a totally diffent conversation.
@@writeisright5948 Actually, it concerns the brain development, and not the brain maturation. It means the pruning of unused synapsis and the development of new ones. Or brain plasticity, in general. it is a neurological/physiological process.
That is why, for instance, trans issues of children and teenagers can resolve by themselves spontaneously within this time framework.
I would love like a 15 min compilation of the main points of this podcast since I can't listen to the whole thing =(
You can also look at the transcripts to read it. That may save you time and/or listen at a faster speed setting.
2:00:00 "Whatever makes you most comfortable or whatever you see me as" - How refreshing!
Are those your mews? At the beginning?
Bodi is the blonde and Bamo is the tux.
Boyce, what made you emotional at one point during the interview?
I had something in my throat and was suppressing a cough
@@BenjaminABoyce Got you! I was worried for you for a minute. I thought, I hope he's Ok? You survived.
This is a dark period in the field of psychiatry. Lobotomies were finally stopped after about 30 years. This is FAR worse and we can only hope it doesn't take 30 years to right this wrong!
happy 2034 love and healing vibes
I still am mystified as to how it was her father who got her on oral contraceptives in order to suppress her menses. What standard prescription can achieve that? #ellenjamesians
For most oral contraceptives, if you skip the placebo pills you won't get a period. Some women just go to the start of the next pack with the hormonal pills.
Actually, both the birth control shot (a needle every 3 months) and hormonal IUDs do that. They provide a constant flow of hormone alteration with no breaks for menstruation to begin. When women take 3 weeks of the pill and then skip the last week and go straight to the next pack, they’re doing the same thing. But yes, other products have already done it. I took the shot as a teenager for about a year, and it messed me up. It took many years to regulate after that. I will never put any kind of synthetic sex-hormone in my body again. A woman’s cycle is a marker of her overall health, not something to be manipulated and controlled.
@@SarahGK333it’s interesting to hear your story. I too was given the shot & then OC for years. When my fiance & I wanted to try to conceive & I stopped taking them, it took YEARS for me to get a cycle back. I went to doctor after doctor & they all said I was fine, sometimes it takes awhile. What!? Why aren’t we told this. I think part of the problem is these items are standard dosed & if you’re thin/ petite or just sensitive to the hormones, you’re basically ODing & you screw up yr body 😢
There will be more of these tragic stories coming out, and many will stay silent out of fear and shame. How did this become the norm? There were barriers in place for a reason, to prevent people making rash decisions that cannot be undone completely.
1:17:00
I like Gecko's. Can humans stop claiming symbols to represent themselves? While we are at it can we get the rainbow back? The LGBTAARP have abused it long enough.
Just take it, it just appears when it appears, when the weather (athmospheric conditions) allows it to happen. Whenever you see one, it‘s yours, like it‘s any other person‘s or creature’s that perceives it as rainbow😊
Its just simple refraction of light.
1:57:44
Sorry B, I liked the video for Luka;)
she's great, glad to facilitate
I will just watch those cats in the woods over and over.
Benjamin has never look up how birth control pills work?!?! Of all men alive, you were my hope there were some men interested enough in women’s health to research the most basic form of women specific healthcare
I think he was trying to get Luka to explain her birth control for people watching who might not know.
Second 😢
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@@NinjaKittyBonks Bloop?
@@helenablavatsky9136 ... a bloop is as good as a BONK, so far as The Kitty is concerned💜
@@NinjaKittyBonks 🥰
An interesting interview. I diagnose Luka as probably 65% female & 35% male, hence the confusion. Most "normal" people (whatever that means) are 90/10, whereas trans people have what I would define as a differential ratio, so they are, in a way, both male & female at the same time. This is a concept outside mainstream thinking, but it is the only explanation that fits their confusion & circumstances.....As regards your conversations with de-transitioner's, I think that the people you interview have mistaken their place on the Harry Benjamin scale of gender dysphoria as being in zone 6, whereas they are in fact zone 4.....
So you define "male" and "female" in other than biological terms? Why? Those are biological terms, not self-perception terms. How is someone with male DNA and male body parts, not 100 percent MALE?
Where would you score gays on your "female-male" scale?
@@Lochness19I could be wrong & I won’t speak for OP but sometimes when people say they feel X% male & Y% female, they’re not really talking about dating preference. You can have some very masculine men who prefer to date men. Also there are plenty of us feminine women who still like women. But personally I always viewed myself as like 60% female & 40% male, despite being a petite femme woman. I don’t go around thinking of myself as feeling feminine internally. And I have equal numbers of male friends as female
@@scarletsletter4466 Getting along with the opposite gender makes you less of your own gender? I mean I don't think men and women are that different. It's probably healthy to be able to connect with people of the opposite gender.
Personality traits do not make anyone more or less of their biological sex. It does not matter if their personality does not fit whatever your cultural stereotype says is manly or womanly.