Alfa Romeo GTV TS Big Brembo Brake Conversion
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2020
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Just fit a pair of calibers from a Alfa Mito tb/Fiat 500 abarth. A straight fit without any modification or branket/spacers. But only 305 mm and use 305mm disk from gtv v6 with brembo.
One of the best mods, thanks for posting this video. I want to do this now!
I’ve just done this conversion so a few tips for anyone considering it. The bolts needed to mount the caliper are M14x1.5x40mm. If you use the heat shield you will need to cut a small piece of it so it doesn’t sit between the caliper and adapter bracket. The clearance is also very very tight with 330mm discs so chances are you will get some rubbing if you’re caliper shave been recently refurbished with powder coat.
Hello.. do you know where tò buy all these parts? I Need this kit for the same conversion
With braided hose pipes u can get even more out of this mod.. very informative video.. Thanks
Yep I'm waiting for them to arrive.
@@ItaliaAutos great video thank you for sharing, could you post links to were I can buy everything needed, thanks
Great video anda thanks!!!
thanks for watching
That metal shroud isn't a stone guard, it's a heat shield to keep the heat off the rubber boots on the ball joints and to direct some air to the disc.
One thing for sure you will never be short of work
fingers crossed.
I find that cooking oil is great for getting the grime off my hands after working on my bike's oily bits. Any oil will do. I use coconut oil because that's what's in the kitchen. You'll have to clean the washbasin afterwards too just to stay healthy, if you know what I mean.
Hi, first of all thank you for sharing this video. My only doubt is which braided hose brake do I have to buy. My gtv is an 1.8TS 1998 phase2. Thats the only part that I haven´t buy yet and not install the kit, to not have to stop the car twice and redo the oil brake bleed. By the way... also which oil brake did you used. Thank you
That are some Big ass braks😎 can I put it on my 147 2.0 from 2006? Good video thanks 💪👍
yes
@@ItaliaAutos 😏oké thanks.
I see where the adapter shows to fit GTV/Spider (916) 1.8/2.0 TwinSpark, GTV/Spider (916) 2.0 JTS, GTV/Spider (916) 2.0 V6 TB. Would it not also work on the early 3.0 V6 Spider?
The alfa romeo 166 uses 310 de diameter , and 28 mm thick brake disc, the gtas brake dics 305 and 330 diameter and 32mm both of them
Always great to watch you Neil, but a question, why did you not remove the rust from the wheel hub? Corrosion can cause a wheel to shake under driving. I believe you always should make a smooth surface or am i missing something?
because thats old copper slip not rust. :-) thanks for watching.
Hi. From where did your source the 330mm caliper mount adapters and bolts? I am think of upgrading my 159 which currently has 305mm discs.
Nice 1 Neil......
Thanks 👍
I got them on my 2014 Giulietta, some great ass breaks 😁
on Giu are 330x28 on GTV/147/156 are 330x32 -big difference
Still breaks like hell ✌️
@@spelaoxy sure, first few times but on track you will know the difference
I dont use it for track only for beauty contests
Got a brand new boxed set of TRW front dampers for that car. Also have a set of KYB gas-adjust for the rear if your customer wants!
pretty sure he will get coilovers at some point
@@ItaliaAutos one way to totally ruin a car
@@rezaq1 How do coilovers ruin a car 😂
Hello! If i am right, 330mm disc originally from 159? So, you adapt 166 calipers to the 159 discs?
What is the torque setting for the bolts holding the two halves of the caliper together?
Usually guys here do 305 or 330 from 159 as they have radial fit and adapters are easier to make. For rotors use 159 rotors and drill them to 5x98.
id rather not faff around drilling discs.:-)
@@ItaliaAutos some come new predrilled like that, you can order from some aftermarket manufacturers by disc size and bolt pattern. It really is not a big deal
Hi there buddy I'm confused can u plse help me I'm wanting to do this awesome brake upgrade but I want to use the 28 ml disk not the 32 ml
Which alfa car model ect disk do I use to do this upgrade
Pensando en hacer lo mismo
Bit of copper grease on the mating faces of hub and disc,makes it easier for next time,that's what I was taught...good video though..👍
They have an anti rattle pad. They get stuck at the top and bottom on these callipers.
I would have also cleaned the hub before slapping the disc on .
Cos there ain't no anti rattle clip on that 😂😂
Nice video. I have a question how long is caliper pin which is hold break pads or from which car you used yours ? Original not fitting length.
Just ordered 330mm fitting kit
Was just about to fit these exact brakes (all from a late 156GTA) on my 340hp Fiat Coupe. Great brakes I hear! (Then it all went to dust in a garage fire 2014)
I do think that heat shield for the ball joints you removed is a keeper tho..?
if i can get some decent ones they will go back on. thanks neil
Where do you get the caliper bracket kit from?
Again a great video for a good and necessary upgrade for Alfa Romeo. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Hello… can those calipers be installed in a 17’ wheel or need bigger ones? Thanks and congratulation for your channel.
Yes you can!
What is the torque specs of these four M12 bolts?
I need those brakes for my GTA :( feel free to send me a set haha
Hi there
Have you converted one for Fiat Punto Evo Multiair Turbo 135 hp ?
if so let me know what brembo calipers I can but from ALFA Romeo and match on the punto please ?
Thanks
Ali
Nope sorry.
Hello. Great video. How does the master cylinder cope with this modification? I've the mito qv brembos on a 2.5 156 and I'm not happy with the pedal. It's not soft but a bit long and u really need to mash it for power. How did the pedal feel to you after these conversions on standard MCs? Cheers
Perfectly fine
@@ItaliaAutos thanks! Appreciate the reply, looks like there's some more bleeding in my future
Years ago i did a similar conversion , fitting the brembo brakes of a 3.0v6 to a 2.0tb (same brakes ad your ts). Towards the end we had to build a on the spot small alluminium block to attach the abs sensor. You dont seem to have had any issues there... how come?
Older gtvs had bigger abs sensors
@@ItaliaAutos would you consider a 1996 an older one? Mine was an after facelift model, with the new sterring wheel snd new front grille. The brake kit came from a scrapped 3.0. Probbaly the difference is linked to the fact that we changed (used donors’ part) the frame where the caliper are bolted on; you used an adapter to fit the calipers on the original frame. Probably thats the key
If those 166 calipers are from 3.2 v6 why did you put the distancers on them? Or they are from a 2.5 v6 and you put them to fit on 32mm disc? As it was from a 28mm disc..?
Made them to fit 330 discs
Nice!
Thanks!
Hey Neil - is the TS master cylinder the same as the 3.0 (22.2mm)?
No
Re gloves...I wear mechanics leather ones, not much loss of 'feel' as the leather is thin and they last for ages before wearing through and protect your hands from sharps better than latex. I'm not particularly worried about the grubbiness, more about the alleged carcinogenic properties of all that oil, grease and muck.
Ooh ill have to have a look into those. I've also been using some of the rubber/cloth gloves
Do you know of people actually coverting the braking pads to make a calliper fit to a different size brake disk? I've done it to one of my motorcycles. Basically it is a matter of trimming the braking material off the pads where they do not touch the disk surface because this would turn them into restricting stays when the rest of the pad wears off. That might sound like lessening the total surface area but in this case it enabled me to replace a former single calliper assembly with a 4 calliper one. The gain in breaking performance is marked without any negative side-effects like increased fading! The only real downside is that I now alwys have to retool new pads to fit them to the vehicles unique specs before I can put them on.
ive read of it but i wouldnt do it.
@@ItaliaAutos It has of course to be done with some caution and sense of the possible complications In this case it however works like a charm. :-)
ho yeees thanks a lot
What is the size of correct pins in this modification?
3.2 engine pins
You gone clean the rust too? From the shoks? ore are the fine?
rust yes. thats upto the customer ive made him aware of it.
Hi Neil, is there a similar process for an Alfa gt jtd ?
Yes
What wheels would you have to fit to clear these calipers?
17 inch and up. gtv 17 inch teledials are perfect fit
See, One Direction does have some use after all...
is it the same principle for the giulietta?, im looking at doing this conversion for mine
yes
@@ItaliaAutos what size of discs used in Gtv?166 Callipers accept 330*32?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Where can i find the correct bolts between the two calipper-parts?
available online.
@@ItaliaAutos in your shop?
plz get your hands on the alfa 90 if you can prise keys out of furious driving or mr lloyd lol or indeed the true owner good luck lol
I have a set alfa guilietta brembo, would these fir my ts gtv???
Never tried to fit any on a gtv so don’t know sorry.
Does this kit work on a 156 with small brakes? Where do I buy it?
Think yes the 147 and the 156 Gta have it😉💪👍gone look for it on my 147 2.0 from 2006
I have a 156 2,5 v6 2002 and I’m also very interested in this kit. The kit that makes 166 bakes fit.
@@lindstromcallemedia I had fitted the Brembo grandturismo kit on my ‘98, the main issue is brake clearance, I had straight mutlispoke 17 Alfa wheels and needed 15mm spacers. Gtv wheels have different off set but arch clearance can then be a problem. It’s worth the effort though...
Can you just fit the 147 GTA Calipers straight to a GTV V6?
nope dont think so
@@ItaliaAutos ah I was told you could as the GTV/156/GTA all use the same mounting brackets, maybe this isn't the case
Different hubs/anti roll bar links and shockers.
This may be done on the 145qv?Front is the same.
Yeah
@@ItaliaAutos I'll buy whole kit from 20vt fiat coupe,I need just adapter or this kit for calliper too?It is small 305mm Brembo kit You know allready.
One direction 😂😂
Whats the cost of all this would love them but probily worth more than the car is
Prob around £900 with all new brembo pads and discs
@@ItaliaAutos pff 😦
But doesn't the 166 have the 305? The brakes 330 on 166 never heard.
310x28 I think.
3.2s came with 330's
I can fit the 147 GTA 330 brake calipers?
The AR166 with Brembo calipers used 310mm discs
The cost of rubber gloves has doubled!!!!...appalling and we know why 😡...you will be aware that skin is porous and bad stuff gets into the blood stream. Great upload thank you 👍
yeah the really dirty stuff i still wear gloves.
Hi mate, i have a
you want an assistant in the workshop, passionate about ALFA ROMEO
one day maybe but i enjoy working on my own. less stress.
my goal 2021 is to visit you in your workshop, a greeting from Italy
blake pipe blending tools
yeah words didnt want to come out lol
Breaks 🙈 sorry I am Dutch
i take it thats in the translation
New brakes on a dirty, rusty car.
This is how you work⁉️
Open you mind. It’s a customers car I get paid to do what they want.
LOL, calm down, he is doing it on the basis of what his customers want. Unless you are some kind of well-known Alfa/Fiat specialist why don't you just shut up and enjoy the video.
HaHa- spend a bunch of money for fancy brakes on a car that will quit running and roll to a stop on its own.