Yeah, it's nice to see results from something OTHER than luxury influencer junkets where they just shoot canned scenarios designed especially to make the product look good. This follow-up still seems rose-tinted, though. One segment I'd love to see as a standard DPRTV review feature would be “The worst thing about this product is…” or “One thing I hated about this product is…”
@@jlwilliams I agree. However I think without having to mention the word hate (maybe they do not hate anything about the camera) they could have a section about things that need to be improved or upgraded. And, maybe a more detailed hands on comparison with the cameras they mention such as Lumix S5 ii Sony A7 IV ...
The reason they do it this way is because those initial reviews are using cameras with pre-production firmware. So, the final reviews are more in line with the camera as consumers will really experience it.
Hey guys, as a canon long time user i wanted to like the R6II especially in 4K 60 but the 11 stops dynamic range is what pushed me towards S5II and i pre ordered it along with EF to L adapter
@@Nader.subaih it was for video only. Yes, Canon C-log2/3 has less DR then Sony's S-log3, but not that much. Slope detection (most important for me) is rather high in Canon, not less then 13 stops. Also note that Sony has non-switchable-off noise-reduction, which ups measured "usable DR". Always check CVP reviews, most respectful.
@SuperSuperka I only care about video. I agree about Sony, but I pre-ordered the Lumix S5II which has similar DR to A7IV but more control without the overheating. I am not saying R6II is a bad camera for video, but to me it fell short in DR, which is unfortunate since Im a canon fan
As an AWS engineer that's most likely gonna be booted from the company as well, I'm furious DPReview is being shut down. Half of the CEO's income would've paid all our salaries for couple years.
I would go RF or Z......IF "XXX" opend up lenses options from Sigm,Tamron and Others....Sony and L-Mounth are today's *Non-Dictator/communism* options, Its a bit sad in 2023. Open it up!!!
@@youknowwho9247xt5 is $800 cheaper than A7IV and R6ii and $300 cheaper than s5 ii and Z6iii (presumably if the current model is indicative of its price) a far more compelling comparison would be the xh2 or xh2s
@@questioneverything680 I guess I suggested the X-T5 so Fuji at least wins out slightly in terms of price, whereas the X-H2 just loses to the full frame options in absolutely every way. Oh well.
Looks nice! 4k60 with that low of a readout time is impressive. 0:50 Dual card mirroring/backup is ignored until someone experiences a card failure, but then it's too late... 😅 Doesn't take much to slot in a second card when it's an option. Not to say that's perfectly foolproof but it adds another layer of protection. It could have been the camera itself too.
So glad you guys brought up the Dynamic Range loss in electronic shutter. (Also noticeable in video) Currently, it is the only real weakness I’ve found that I actually have to shoot around. It’s unfortunate, but also not surprising the camera would have SOME weakness. Overall, it fills its role as a complimentary camera to my R3 bodies and a general everyday shooter for real estate and other subjects. Its performance is truly remarkable for the price point and can do a very good job hanging with the R3.
what brand and model SD card got corrupted? How long it was in use? Im interested in this info just to have some reference. There are people who still do not believe that cards fail
At 7:58 to 7:59 there is a autofocus jump for a stationary human mid shot. Thanks for not cutting it and a subtle way to showing, without telling. Like that.
Got this camera back in December after 18 years as a pro photographer and it's the best camera I've ever used... by far. It's definitely class leading, beating out the A7IV (which has cropped 4K, bad LCD, and lower dynamic range and higher noise than the R6 II in all the tests I did plus the R6 II has way better rolling shutter and battery life,and costs less where I live!) and significantly better than the S5 II which still has focus issues (check out DSLR Videoshooter's review, he's the best) and has heavily crippled and cropped high speed modes, even in 1080. Ugh. Alex Barerra did a comparison with the A7IV and not only did the R6 II beat it when it comes to dynamic range and ISO noise, shockingly the R6 II was also SHARPER. I upscaled Raws to 33 MP to match the A7IV and sure enough the R6 II is sharper in real world. Perhaps due to weaker AA filter, and lenses and focus accuracy too. 12 FPS mechanical is already insane for photography. I shot sports with the best 1D at the time, and it was 10 FPS and it was always more than enough. And that 12 FPS blows away the A7IV (which gets only about 7 FPS in real world) and the S5 II.
Excellent. Thanks in particular for the discussion of image quality in mechanical vs electronic shutter mode. Would have welcomed an in-depth discussion of IQ in the R6 vs the R6 II. But overall a very helpful, complete intro.
How do you know it was recorded on the R6ii? I'd guess they recorded on the "panasonic" as the subject in the video seems to Praise Pana so much over the years and known to record clips with pana in the past.
@Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 Actually if it was all shot on the R6II it would have also been mentioned at the start, which leads me to believe they only had one R6II and all of the shots where Chris is holding the R6II are shot with another camera, most likely S5II. That said, I agree that particular shot was most likely done on the R6II. Could have been user error though, Chris isn't a pro videographer. Probably forgot to activate "subject only" or something.
Panasonic S5II is hard to beat, I mean, it's so great that all ex-Panasonic fanboys are probably going to comeback to Panasonic now that the autofocus topic has been finally resolved. I was about to change brand after 20 years, imagine that.
I own TWO Panasonic full frame bodies (S1 and an original S5, will probably get an S5 II X when it is released in May) and I can certainly see the appeal of the R6 / R6 II. The 4K 60p in full frame looks sharp (wish they had done dynamic range / high ISO tests though). Plus... it's a Canon, and having near-native performance with EF Lenses adapted to the body is a bonus. (On the other hand, the S5 II seems to work well with Canon EF lenses, too, now that the body has PDAF). Anyway, I think we all "win" when any manufacturer releases a good camera, even if they are a competitor to our preferred brand of camera.
Thank you for your review and your opinions. Both Chris and Jordan do a lot of work in testing the functionality of cameras for photography and videography. Appreciate it very much.
I have the original R6 and don't need to upgrade since I mainly shoot photos, but uncropped 4k60fps at this price point is really impressive. The readout speed is a nice bonus too.
Gordon addressed my biggest problem with the original R6: the AF occasionally just drifts off me for no discernable reason. I chalked it up to poor low light performance because it happens most often when my face is in shadow, and I'm dark-skinned to begin with. But the R6 II looks way better in multiple areas, including the AF performance. I really must consider upgrading, unless the R5 II comes out later this year as rumored.
@@thetechiephotographer I spotted that too. Right before that cut. I wonder what the rest of that particular clip looked like. How quickly did it re-acquire him? It was apparently back on him right after that. Recently my R6 left me and just stayed lost until the end of the clip. I was pissed during editing, but I was stuck with the footage.
@@JohnDrummondPhoto As explained by Jordan in this review there is a new mode "subject only" that is derived from the cinema line and will stick to your face no matter what and won't back focus even if you leave the frame. Honestly this feature alone is worth the upgrade. Not even R5 has this feature. And none of the competition either.
Don't know what gear and settings were used for that short moderation piece of Chris telling us that the SD card died, but it's by far the nicest shot in the video.
EOS RP AWB has terrible performance when comparing to 5D Mark ii. Turning in yellow pictures. Is this better? This would be a deal breaker for me if they have not improved this area. None of the reviews seem to talk about AWB performance.
I have sold my previous gear... and came here because I was hesitating whether to start new with Sony a7iv or R6ii and in the end, I didn't decide anything :)
I'd want a feature built into the camera where one could sign in to the Google account and have the picture uploaded directly to Google Drive as soon as taken. That way, if the card gets corrupted halfway in, the pictures would still be on the Google Drive.
You discussed how it doesn’t perform great autofocus on inanimate objects. What would be a good camera for this? I shoot lots of reviews/close up woodworking content. Thanks
Can it completely solve the problem of jelly around the picture and picture swing under wide angle. Can you produce some cost-effective lenses that are easy to use and light?
Very good review summary, I already own the Sony A7 IV but still have too much of a love for Canon to retire my EOS 80D, I would like to see what the camera does for the new Airplane and Train autofocusing as I haven't seen this reviewed yet?
Why would anyone buy Canon? Their lens are super expensive, hardly any 3rd party lens (Canon will sue them). One can get better and cheaper ecosystem with Sony.
I have a unique situation and I'm trying to decide on a camera body. I do photogametry on film sets. Oftentimes I need to jump in and do it while they are setting up for other shots. Currently I use a 5D Mark IV which presents a few problems that I'd like to improve on. 1. Photogrammetry requires a lot of photos. Bracketed. So I want to go mirrorless and maybe digital shutter because it feels like I'm just putting so many miles on the camera in such a short amount of time. 2. An entire film crew could be standing around waiting while I'm doing the photogrammetry and a lot of times I'm doing them in low light situations. So shooting bracketed photos on a tripod can take a really long time due to the longer exposures. 3. I need as little depth of field as possible. So to sum it all up, I need something that can shoot a large volume of photos fast in low light without opening the aperture too much. The fact that I already have a 5D, it would be nice to stay in the canon family but it's not a must. I would love to hear any thoughts you might have. Thank you and thanks for your video!
Have my eye on it but already have the R7. The 6 mk 2 has a few slight upgrades but nothing drastic. Low light would interest me the most. I’ve read by most users it’s superior, but a night/day difference? sorry bad pun. I do a fair amount of cropping in my wild life shots on the R7. I also get in my opinion at least good low light with my fast lenses. Biggest issue which MAY bother me is the greater noise with low light pics. But that can be mitigated in post. So aside from wishing I could have the whole line up of R models, the 5 seems overkill and the 6 is of interest. How much more benefit will I get? I have a fair stable of RF lenses already (it’s been a lucky year for me)
You didn't mention the habit of this camera to just freeze up leaving one with no solution but yo pull the batteries from the camera, let it sit for a couple of minutes and then reload he batteries and turn the camera on.
hmm, I would think the Canon would be better for general photography over the Sony due to the Speedlite/flash system, which I have always gotten great results with DSLRs (sorry I am on here trying to decide which mirrorless option to move up to). When shooting portraits or general photography, I almost always use my Speedlite for fill.
Subject detect only is a HUGE feature for video. R5 doesn't even have that. It's handed straight down from the cine line. None of the competition has it either. This alone with the lack of overheat, no crop 4K60p, low rolling shutter, photo/stills switch etc makes for not only a compelling upgrade but a class-leading hybrid camera in overall specs. Yeah S5ii got PDAF but it is still first gen PDAF.
Both A7 mk4 and S5 mk2 crops in to aps-c in 4k 60, which means you need a different set of lenses for photo than video. The Canon is the only true hybrid here, no crop, one set of lenses for everything you might want to do
@Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 With the S5 Mk II and A7 IV, when you shoot 4K60, it punches in on the shot and forces a 1.5x crop on your image. If you're fine with your camera zooming in when you take 4K60, then you don't need a second set of lenses. For many shooters, this is not a big deal because many people shoot in 4K60 for slow motion, and most slow motion shots tend to be close-ups. However, if you are shooting for 60 fps delivery or you just want to take slow motion wide angle shots, then you need extra wide angle lenses for 4K60. That's why you need a second set of lenses.
I’d be quite interested to see what happened if Canon (or any other maker) brought out a dedicated stills camera. Maybe an R5 or R6 II equivalent with all the video capabilities removed and at a more affordable price. I think it would sell like hot cakes.
Hi, I don't think the savings would be as much as you might hope for. Nearly all the hardware would still be required and the software would already be developed for the hybrid model. All you save is having some of it left out. Ain't going to be cheaper to manufacture or sell.
I want back the LCD mode screen at the top like on the R5 and almost every Canon DSLR out there, excluding the Rebel of course but that's an entry level camera. So why are we getting entry level features on such an expensive camera?
Canon not allowing 3rd party was not a good move (not strategic), 3rd party EF lens works great with the $99 adapter; Canon should allow all 3rd party to make RF mount lens, all 3rd party just needed to do was add an extension adapter to legacy EF lens and charge $100 bucks more and call it RF AND all Canon had to do was what Sony did, as Sony crippled/limited all E mount 3rd party to 15fps limit on their 20-30fps bodies and tell everyone it's because they are not optimized and to blame the 3rd party; blame them with a tech jargon as to why they are limited and get the Sony lens if you want 20-30flps.. No one is complaining about the fps limit set by Sony right?? when Canon's EF adapted lens get full fps. Canon just needs to limit 3rd party lens to same as sony 15fps and again blame it on some tech jargon. Not everyone needs more than 15fps like most of the yoo toobers, macro, portrait ..etc image makers.
I have the R6 II and what disappoints me more is the garbage 1.8 primes with their slow and loud stm motors. They have no weather sealing and they don't even come with a lens hood.
How do we know if it was recorded on another brand? They don't say, i just assume. I'd guess they recorded on the "panasonic" as the subject in the video seems to Praise Pana so much over the years is known to use panasonic in the past. Maybe he didn't mention it because it "was" panasonic.. who knows. or Canon really is unreliable.
Does the Electronic shutter dynamic range decrease happen to other non stacked sensors like the A7 IV? I've only heard of rolling shutter and light flicker at lower speeds as disadvantages of Electronic shutter and as mentioned in your A7 IV review video.
Notice the design and way it holds this R6MKII looks like the one the I owned 5DMKII DSLR 15 years ago back then. After all these years, Canon never want to change it looks to Retro style like Fujifilm or Nikon Zf or Sony A7 series...
Hello photographers and camera addicts. Please forgive my ignorance. I am so new to all this. What is the difference between Canon EOS R6 ii and Canon R6 Mark ii? I am looking for a good instructional book for my R6 Mark ii and can't find one. But there is book for Canon EOS R6 ii. Are there two differed cameras? or the Word "Mark" is just a whatever.....
I recently purchased this Canon R6 Mark II Full Frame Mirrorless Also, Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC Lens for Canon EF And Samyang 100mm f/2.8 ED UMC Macro Lens for Canon EF And of course, the Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R But when I attach either of these lenses using the adapter of course, nothing happens when I press the Shutter Button. Not even a sound. The camera does not take picture. What am I doing wrong?
Was Chris only using one SD card in the camera for those photos that got corrupted? I'd hope this could be prevented by using both card slots on the camera. That's the entire point of dual SD card slots, right? At least it is for the way I shoot. I know some people prefer to fill one card up and then start the next one, but I would much rather have a backup to prevent exactly the problem Chris experienced. I want to like the R6 Mark II and R7, but there are a few things holding them back for me. 1) Closed RF lens mount. We need Tamron and Sigma lenses in every mount if for no other reason than my wallet. I know you can adapt EF and EF-S lenses (and I own the Sigma 18-35mm and 50-100mm lenses in EF-S), but that's an imperfect solution with compromised autofocus. The lack of Tamron lenses even makes me think about Sony over Panasonic. Competition is a great thing. I know Canon make some fantastic native glass in this mount, but there are not enough lenses (particularly in APS-C for the R7), and goddamn their inflated prices. 2) Lack of video assist tools. This is easily fixable in firmware if Canon wants to fix it. Why don't they care? 3) Iffy stabilization. The S5 II and S5 IIX just win here. Not that the R6 Mark II is bad at stabilization, and it's probably better than the a7 IV, but the S5 II and S5 IIX are just far more stable for video.
Potential Dealbreaker Warning !!!! Card Recording not supported with clean HDMI out :( Canon has done it again. removed a basic feature that existed for 15 years since in the 5D MKIII that (with MagicLantern) that seems to be still the only Canon camera that can Livestream and Record internally (as backup) a long video session like the full day conference that im streaming at the moment without stopping every 29:59. i havnt checked the R7 R10 R50 R3 R8 yet, but i have the feeling that this is the case on most if not all new - continuously recording canon hybrid cameras. i am completely bewildered by this move and very dissapointed to say the least. I am giving up on the hope for a proper all rounder from canon at this point. just don't trust them anymore. im also quite surprised that nowhere is this mentioned in all the many reviews praising this camera. maybe no one streams multicam with Canon cameras, but if you are - be aware.
The EF lenses better with R6 MK ii than with old DLSRs. The comment about 3rd party I do not count and Canon is also opening up now to 3rd parties. My old 50mm f1.2 is perfect with R6.
LOL. When I still shot on my 6D and 6D mk2, UA-cam reviews kept nagging about the lack of dual card slots. Not a professional camera, because professionals need redundancy when shooting. Now R6 HAS dual card slots. AND is being used by professionals. And STILL. :-) As a professional behavioural scientist I'd recommend some nudges. Package SD cards in pairs for your reviews and add switching on redundancy to the initial camera set-up checklist ;-)
Hi,please help with something, I want to buy this camera as i need a more compact camera for our studio and rung and gun, gimbal footage. We have a live streaming setup with an Atem Extreme ISO and 2 Blackmagic 6k Pro cameras. My question is, can i use this camera for live streaming for a few hours? I know there was a 30min limit for recording, i may seen a video with an firmware update which solves the 30 min recording limit. The camera will be connected to the Atem Extreme ISO through HDMI and may or may not record internally depending on needs. Mostly it will only stream through HDMI and the Atem will record all streams. Thank you in advance!
I like the idea of making intiial reviews and another one after having used the camera for a while.
Yeah, it's nice to see results from something OTHER than luxury influencer junkets where they just shoot canned scenarios designed especially to make the product look good. This follow-up still seems rose-tinted, though. One segment I'd love to see as a standard DPRTV review feature would be “The worst thing about this product is…” or “One thing I hated about this product is…”
@@jlwilliams I agree. However I think without having to mention the word hate (maybe they do not hate anything about the camera) they could have a section about things that need to be improved or upgraded. And, maybe a more detailed hands on comparison with the cameras they mention such as Lumix S5 ii Sony A7 IV ...
I just wish the final reviews came in a bit faster, but otherwise agree
The reason they do it this way is because those initial reviews are using cameras with pre-production firmware. So, the final reviews are more in line with the camera as consumers will really experience it.
Linguistically it makes sense for the review to be a second look after time. First look doesn't make sense as a review.
Thanks guys, good to know they are so close these days. Which is a good sign.
It's not Future Chris unless he wears the time travel helmet; beware of the interloper.
Hey guys, as a canon long time user i wanted to like the R6II especially in 4K 60 but the 11 stops dynamic range is what pushed me towards S5II and i pre ordered it along with EF to L adapter
11? Where did you fet those numbers? Wait for dxo charts, my guess it will be around 14.5, as original r6
@SuperSuperka Gerald Undone review among others who compared DR to Sony A7IV which Sony was 2-3 stops better
@@Nader.subaih it was for video only. Yes, Canon C-log2/3 has less DR then Sony's S-log3, but not that much. Slope detection (most important for me) is rather high in Canon, not less then 13 stops. Also note that Sony has non-switchable-off noise-reduction, which ups measured "usable DR". Always check CVP reviews, most respectful.
@SuperSuperka I only care about video. I agree about Sony, but I pre-ordered the Lumix S5II which has similar DR to A7IV but more control without the overheating. I am not saying R6II is a bad camera for video, but to me it fell short in DR, which is unfortunate since Im a canon fan
@@SuperSuperka lol the r6 had 12 max.
As an AWS engineer that's most likely gonna be booted from the company as well, I'm furious DPReview is being shut down.
Half of the CEO's income would've paid all our salaries for couple years.
I would go RF or Z......IF "XXX" opend up lenses options from Sigm,Tamron and Others....Sony and L-Mounth are today's *Non-Dictator/communism* options, Its a bit sad in 2023. Open it up!!!
Did you know? The EOS R6 Mark II have two SD card slots, and you can take pictures on both at the same time in case one card gets corrupted ;)
This is way to advance for Chris
This is not news. All my Nikons have this feature.
@idahomountainlover754 yeah so do all professional canon cameras
Umm yes that pretty normal for even 15 year old dslr 's ffs relax p Diddy
@@idahomountainlover754most dslr 's in the last 15 do this 😂
That's why the camera has 2 SD card slots, boys ;)
Yeah😂
yeah, getting the R6II, the Tamron 70-180 and the Sigma 24-70 would be a great mid-budget sports/travel combo... Oh wait...
Adapters are your friend
@@NoahStephens make your camera heavier, front heavy, worse autofocus, and cost money…great solution
I'd love to see a 4 way comparison video between the R6II, A7IV, S5II and the Z6III when it finally comes out!
Yesss
Chuck the X-T5 in there, too. Not full frame, but same price point.
Make it the XH2S
@@youknowwho9247xt5 is $800 cheaper than A7IV and R6ii and $300 cheaper than s5 ii and Z6iii (presumably if the current model is indicative of its price) a far more compelling comparison would be the xh2 or xh2s
@@questioneverything680 I guess I suggested the X-T5 so Fuji at least wins out slightly in terms of price, whereas the X-H2 just loses to the full frame options in absolutely every way. Oh well.
Looks nice! 4k60 with that low of a readout time is impressive.
0:50 Dual card mirroring/backup is ignored until someone experiences a card failure, but then it's too late... 😅 Doesn't take much to slot in a second card when it's an option. Not to say that's perfectly foolproof but it adds another layer of protection. It could have been the camera itself too.
Does it have dual cards?
@@mikem6796 The R6 Mark II? Yes, dual SD.
TLDR: It's an amazing camera in every way, but I would still choose another camera brand.... lol what??
I thought the camera had 2 slots or did they both corrupt
We are spoilt for choice, hopefully Nikon will start competing soon with a Z8 or Z6III.
Now I just want a video on SD card corruption 😬
So glad you guys brought up the Dynamic Range loss in electronic shutter. (Also noticeable in video) Currently, it is the only real weakness I’ve found that I actually have to shoot around. It’s unfortunate, but also not surprising the camera would have SOME weakness. Overall, it fills its role as a complimentary camera to my R3 bodies and a general everyday shooter for real estate and other subjects. Its performance is truly remarkable for the price point and can do a very good job hanging with the R3.
I hope you don't work for black rock and stealing people's homes in the "real estate" business.
Funny that the AF jumps at 8:00 🤔
hahaha yes
what brand and model SD card got corrupted? How long it was in use? Im interested in this info just to have some reference. There are people who still do not believe that cards fail
Agree! I'd be concerned if this camera eats SD cards for lunch - or you were using an overextended crappy card?
Guys! How u can live in winter time in Canada with no winter hats? 🥶😲
I've got thick hair!
@@niccollsvideo good point 😅
Hope canon will allow 3rd party lenses
Sigma 85 1.4 for rf mount is a dream
Will never happen
At 7:58 to 7:59 there is a autofocus jump for a stationary human mid shot. Thanks for not cutting it and a subtle way to showing, without telling. Like that.
It happens. It's jumped because it saw a photo of a p Diddy /Snoop Dog after parties
Every camera is good! Now, go out and shoot.
Got this camera back in December after 18 years as a pro photographer and it's the best camera I've ever used... by far. It's definitely class leading, beating out the A7IV (which has cropped 4K, bad LCD, and lower dynamic range and higher noise than the R6 II in all the tests I did plus the R6 II has way better rolling shutter and battery life,and costs less where I live!) and significantly better than the S5 II which still has focus issues (check out DSLR Videoshooter's review, he's the best) and has heavily crippled and cropped high speed modes, even in 1080. Ugh.
Alex Barerra did a comparison with the A7IV and not only did the R6 II beat it when it comes to dynamic range and ISO noise, shockingly the R6 II was also SHARPER. I upscaled Raws to 33 MP to match the A7IV and sure enough the R6 II is sharper in real world. Perhaps due to weaker AA filter, and lenses and focus accuracy too.
12 FPS mechanical is already insane for photography. I shot sports with the best 1D at the time, and it was 10 FPS and it was always more than enough. And that 12 FPS blows away the A7IV (which gets only about 7 FPS in real world) and the S5 II.
You should try a Sony, the quality will blow your mind.
@@Yupthereitism I don't understand this comment
I wouldn’t say it’s cheaper than the a7iv since the lenses you’ll be paying for are 2x more expensive than tamron or sigma lenses.
@@lIIustrationYou can seamlessly adapt on EF lens
@@lIIustrationYou spend thousands on a camera body and compromise AF with cheap lenses? Yeah no, buy used.
What's the dynamic range and low light capabilities of the R6 II when shooting 4K 60p??? Does it have dual native ISO?
Why didn't you shoot redundant? I can't imagine myself shooting to a single card.
Just bought the r6 ii last night can't wait to use it!
And how do you like it?
@@unbroken1010 not much?
I have the R6. This is not worth upgrading for.
Excellent. Thanks in particular for the discussion of image quality in mechanical vs electronic shutter mode. Would have welcomed an in-depth discussion of IQ in the R6 vs the R6 II. But overall a very helpful, complete intro.
I wished the Panasonic could do 4k 60p without crop....
7:58 typical Canon autofocus moment just before the cut 😁
How do you know it was recorded on the R6ii? I'd guess they recorded on the "panasonic" as the subject in the video seems to Praise Pana so much over the years and known to record clips with pana in the past.
@Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 oh i c ; thank you. Good to know.
@Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 Actually if it was all shot on the R6II it would have also been mentioned at the start, which leads me to believe they only had one R6II and all of the shots where Chris is holding the R6II are shot with another camera, most likely S5II. That said, I agree that particular shot was most likely done on the R6II. Could have been user error though, Chris isn't a pro videographer. Probably forgot to activate "subject only" or something.
When a camera has dual card slots, but you don't use them.
I know, right? Haha..I throw raws on one and JPGs on another.
you deserve more subs for the hardwork you do
Got my R6 Mk II just a couple of weeks ago, and my main thought is, why did I wait so long???
Panasonic S5II is hard to beat, I mean, it's so great that all ex-Panasonic fanboys are probably going to comeback to Panasonic now that the autofocus topic has been finally resolved. I was about to change brand after 20 years, imagine that.
I own TWO Panasonic full frame bodies (S1 and an original S5, will probably get an S5 II X when it is released in May) and I can certainly see the appeal of the R6 / R6 II. The 4K 60p in full frame looks sharp (wish they had done dynamic range / high ISO tests though). Plus... it's a Canon, and having near-native performance with EF Lenses adapted to the body is a bonus. (On the other hand, the S5 II seems to work well with Canon EF lenses, too, now that the body has PDAF). Anyway, I think we all "win" when any manufacturer releases a good camera, even if they are a competitor to our preferred brand of camera.
@@marinrealestatephotography I just hope we see more telephoto lenses with the L-mount.
So S5 II for video, A7IV for stills, those two recommendations in this video really illustrate how the EOS 6 II stacks up.
Thank you for your review and your opinions. Both Chris and Jordan do a lot of work in testing the functionality of cameras for photography and videography. Appreciate it very much.
weird how the AF just lost it at the 7:58 mark. It sort of contradicts the reports of the new subject only "stickiness" of the AF.
I have the original R6 and don't need to upgrade since I mainly shoot photos, but uncropped 4k60fps at this price point is really impressive. The readout speed is a nice bonus too.
Gordon addressed my biggest problem with the original R6: the AF occasionally just drifts off me for no discernable reason. I chalked it up to poor low light performance because it happens most often when my face is in shadow, and I'm dark-skinned to begin with. But the R6 II looks way better in multiple areas, including the AF performance. I really must consider upgrading, unless the R5 II comes out later this year as rumored.
It looks like it still back focusing - ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxMOZ4vosoo6AMKAG2TiNB5pRdOaGCW0BL
@@thetechiephotographer I spotted that too. Right before that cut. I wonder what the rest of that particular clip looked like. How quickly did it re-acquire him? It was apparently back on him right after that. Recently my R6 left me and just stayed lost until the end of the clip. I was pissed during editing, but I was stuck with the footage.
It won’t drift in face only mode.
@@JohnDrummondPhoto As explained by Jordan in this review there is a new mode "subject only" that is derived from the cinema line and will stick to your face no matter what and won't back focus even if you leave the frame. Honestly this feature alone is worth the upgrade. Not even R5 has this feature. And none of the competition either.
7:58 dhe autofocus forgot him and goes in the background than the scene crops 🫣😈
Don't know what gear and settings were used for that short moderation piece of Chris telling us that the SD card died, but it's by far the nicest shot in the video.
Maybe it was Chris filming with his trusty Olympus E-M1 MK III (the camera he uses for the fly fishing channel).
7:57 Yup, that human detect AF is really doing wonders, Jordan! 😛
Sony needs to crank out a7 v with real 4k 60p asap..
Is it 10 bit prores ?
The big question; if you own the R6 is the Mark II worth the upgrade?
I returned the R6ii and kept the R6. No difference in af and tracking for what I do. I don’t care about 30 min time limits for video.
EOS RP AWB has terrible performance when comparing to 5D Mark ii. Turning in yellow pictures. Is this better? This would be a deal breaker for me if they have not improved this area. None of the reviews seem to talk about AWB performance.
Was this review shot on the same R6 MII? Seems to lose focus tracking at 7:58?
I'd guess they recorded on the "panasonic" as the subject in the video seems to Praise Pana so much over the years.
7:58 - what happened there?? did the camera get bored looking at Jordan? 🤪
I like that red jacket Chris! Can you tell me what brand that is? Thank you!
I have sold my previous gear... and came here because I was hesitating whether to start new with Sony a7iv or R6ii and in the end, I didn't decide anything :)
How do you compare it to Fuji XH2s?
Thanks for sharing another wonderful video like always 👍👌
What was this video shot for?
Impressive how You cut off the sequence @7:58 when You lost AF haha.
I'd want a feature built into the camera where one could sign in to the Google account and have the picture uploaded directly to Google Drive as soon as taken. That way, if the card gets corrupted halfway in, the pictures would still be on the Google Drive.
18ms and subject detect only are very impressive!
You discussed how it doesn’t perform great autofocus on inanimate objects. What would be a good camera for this? I shoot lots of reviews/close up woodworking content. Thanks
As an R6 mk II owner my heartbeat jumped a bit at 8:46 with Chris casually throwing it from one hand into the other ;-)
Can it completely solve the problem of jelly around the picture and picture swing under wide angle. Can you produce some cost-effective lenses that are easy to use and light?
Very good review summary, I already own the Sony A7 IV but still have too much of a love for Canon to retire my EOS 80D, I would like to see what the camera does for the new Airplane and Train autofocusing as I haven't seen this reviewed yet?
I have the R6 Mk i. I love it so much.
If I ever need a second Cam, I would absolutely consider the Mark ii. Or an R5 i/ii. Yeah buddy!
Why would anyone buy Canon? Their lens are super expensive, hardly any 3rd party lens (Canon will sue them). One can get better and cheaper ecosystem with Sony.
Cause they want it and can afford it. That’s why
I have a unique situation and I'm trying to decide on a camera body. I do photogametry on film sets. Oftentimes I need to jump in and do it while they are setting up for other shots. Currently I use a 5D Mark IV which presents a few problems that I'd like to improve on.
1. Photogrammetry requires a lot of photos. Bracketed. So I want to go mirrorless and maybe digital shutter because it feels like I'm just putting so many miles on the camera in such a short amount of time.
2. An entire film crew could be standing around waiting while I'm doing the photogrammetry and a lot of times I'm doing them in low light situations. So shooting bracketed photos on a tripod can take a really long time due to the longer exposures.
3. I need as little depth of field as possible.
So to sum it all up, I need something that can shoot a large volume of photos fast in low light without opening the aperture too much.
The fact that I already have a 5D, it would be nice to stay in the canon family but it's not a must. I would love to hear any thoughts you might have. Thank you and thanks for your video!
Waiting for final review for Panasonic S5 Mark II
Have my eye on it but already have the R7. The 6 mk 2 has a few slight upgrades but nothing drastic. Low light would interest me the most. I’ve read by most users it’s superior, but a night/day difference? sorry bad pun.
I do a fair amount of cropping in my wild life shots on the R7. I also get in my opinion at least good low light with my fast lenses. Biggest issue which MAY bother me is the greater noise with low light pics. But that can be mitigated in post. So aside from wishing I could have the whole line up of R models, the 5 seems overkill and the 6 is of interest. How much more benefit will I get? I have a fair stable of RF lenses already (it’s been a lucky year for me)
which jacket brand ?
You didn't mention the habit of this camera to just freeze up leaving one with no solution but yo pull the batteries from the camera, let it sit for a couple of minutes and then reload he batteries and turn the camera on.
hmm, I would think the Canon would be better for general photography over the Sony due to the Speedlite/flash system, which I have always gotten great results with DSLRs (sorry I am on here trying to decide which mirrorless option to move up to). When shooting portraits or general photography, I almost always use my Speedlite for fill.
Canon are crazy for leaving out Clog 2, handing the hybrid market over to Sony, Nikon and Panasonic.
Subject detect only is a HUGE feature for video. R5 doesn't even have that. It's handed straight down from the cine line. None of the competition has it either. This alone with the lack of overheat, no crop 4K60p, low rolling shutter, photo/stills switch etc makes for not only a compelling upgrade but a class-leading hybrid camera in overall specs. Yeah S5ii got PDAF but it is still first gen PDAF.
I prefer the video specs and image from Panasonic. The videos are just nicer. I also prefer a fan.
Thank you!
7:58 welp, there goes the focus...
So just exactly how old and well used was that card?? No chance it was related to the R6M2 at all?
The only problem with the r6 ii is, I have to find the money....😭
Don't worry. The Canon lenses are even more expensive if you want real quality.
Is this episode entirely shot on the R6ii?
Both A7 mk4 and S5 mk2 crops in to aps-c in 4k 60, which means you need a different set of lenses for photo than video. The Canon is the only true hybrid here, no crop, one set of lenses for everything you might want to do
@Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 With the S5 Mk II and A7 IV, when you shoot 4K60, it punches in on the shot and forces a 1.5x crop on your image. If you're fine with your camera zooming in when you take 4K60, then you don't need a second set of lenses. For many shooters, this is not a big deal because many people shoot in 4K60 for slow motion, and most slow motion shots tend to be close-ups. However, if you are shooting for 60 fps delivery or you just want to take slow motion wide angle shots, then you need extra wide angle lenses for 4K60. That's why you need a second set of lenses.
No mention of the Focus problem?: " sometimes when the lens is focused way off to start with it can be difficult to acquire focus at very close range"
let's not forget Canon's idiotic policy on third party lenses
Shenzhen Jueying Technology has violated Canon's patents - taking action against this is not idiotic, but consistent.
@@chrisw.braunschweiger it’s idiotic and greedy
@ 7:59 it drifted
What brand of SD card?
I’d be quite interested to see what happened if Canon (or any other maker) brought out a dedicated stills camera. Maybe an R5 or R6 II equivalent with all the video capabilities removed and at a more affordable price. I think it would sell like hot cakes.
Hi, I don't think the savings would be as much as you might hope for. Nearly all the hardware would still be required and the software would already be developed for the hybrid model. All you save is having some of it left out. Ain't going to be cheaper to manufacture or sell.
@@bobuk5722Pobably not, but we can dream...
I'm with you, I've absolutely no interest in video. My thoughts are if you want a video camera then buy a video camera.
lol at 7:58 you can see camera autofocus drift off to background
Why are you testing a camera that shoot over 30 fps on still images
I want back the LCD mode screen at the top like on the R5 and almost every Canon DSLR out there, excluding the Rebel of course but that's an entry level camera. So why are we getting entry level features on such an expensive camera?
Lack of third-party lens support is an instant dealbreaker for me. What was canon thinking.
Canon not allowing 3rd party was not a good move (not strategic), 3rd party EF lens works great with the $99 adapter; Canon should allow all 3rd party to make RF mount lens, all 3rd party just needed to do was add an extension adapter to legacy EF lens and charge $100 bucks more and call it RF AND all Canon had to do was what Sony did, as Sony crippled/limited all E mount 3rd party to 15fps limit on their 20-30fps bodies and tell everyone it's because they are not optimized and to blame the 3rd party; blame them with a tech jargon as to why they are limited and get the Sony lens if you want 20-30flps.. No one is complaining about the fps limit set by Sony right?? when Canon's EF adapted lens get full fps. Canon just needs to limit 3rd party lens to same as sony 15fps and again blame it on some tech jargon. Not everyone needs more than 15fps like most of the yoo toobers, macro, portrait ..etc image makers.
@Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 oh, thank you for the information.
I have the R6 II and what disappoints me more is the garbage 1.8 primes with their slow and loud stm motors. They have no weather sealing and they don't even come with a lens hood.
@Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 lol no, Sony has been taking over. Canon is cooked.
@07:57 the focus drifting of your face at this moment. Why did you hide it with a cut to an imagine instead of pointing that drifting?
How do we know if it was recorded on another brand? They don't say, i just assume. I'd guess they recorded on the "panasonic" as the subject in the video seems to Praise Pana so much over the years is known to use panasonic in the past. Maybe he didn't mention it because it "was" panasonic.. who knows. or Canon really is unreliable.
@@chosenbydesign9007 they wrote in the beginning its canon r6 ii
@@A.Edilbi Thank you for the clarification.
A7 R4 All Day, For Everything.
good 9.5min review on R6 mk II
Canon r6 mark ii is japan manufacturing is good ?
Great Video
Does the Electronic shutter dynamic range decrease happen to other non stacked sensors like the A7 IV?
I've only heard of rolling shutter and light flicker at lower speeds as disadvantages of Electronic shutter and as mentioned in your A7 IV review video.
yes and always did decrese
This was surprising to me as well. Is this true for all non-stacked sensors? ie, the Sony A7iv would have the same issue?
Notice the design and way it holds this R6MKII looks like the one the I owned 5DMKII DSLR 15 years ago back then. After all these years, Canon never want to change it looks to Retro style like Fujifilm or Nikon Zf or Sony A7 series...
Hello photographers and camera addicts. Please forgive my ignorance. I am so new to all this. What is the difference between Canon EOS R6 ii and Canon R6 Mark ii? I am looking for a good instructional book for my R6 Mark ii and can't find one. But there is book for Canon EOS R6 ii. Are there two differed cameras? or the Word "Mark" is just a whatever.....
I recently purchased this Canon R6 Mark II Full Frame Mirrorless
Also, Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC Lens for Canon EF
And Samyang 100mm f/2.8 ED UMC Macro Lens for Canon EF
And of course, the Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R
But when I attach either of these lenses using the adapter of course, nothing happens when I press the Shutter Button. Not even a sound. The camera does not take picture.
What am I doing wrong?
Was Chris only using one SD card in the camera for those photos that got corrupted? I'd hope this could be prevented by using both card slots on the camera. That's the entire point of dual SD card slots, right? At least it is for the way I shoot. I know some people prefer to fill one card up and then start the next one, but I would much rather have a backup to prevent exactly the problem Chris experienced.
I want to like the R6 Mark II and R7, but there are a few things holding them back for me.
1) Closed RF lens mount. We need Tamron and Sigma lenses in every mount if for no other reason than my wallet. I know you can adapt EF and EF-S lenses (and I own the Sigma 18-35mm and 50-100mm lenses in EF-S), but that's an imperfect solution with compromised autofocus. The lack of Tamron lenses even makes me think about Sony over Panasonic. Competition is a great thing. I know Canon make some fantastic native glass in this mount, but there are not enough lenses (particularly in APS-C for the R7), and goddamn their inflated prices.
2) Lack of video assist tools. This is easily fixable in firmware if Canon wants to fix it. Why don't they care?
3) Iffy stabilization. The S5 II and S5 IIX just win here. Not that the R6 Mark II is bad at stabilization, and it's probably better than the a7 IV, but the S5 II and S5 IIX are just far more stable for video.
Potential Dealbreaker Warning !!!!
Card Recording not supported with clean HDMI out :(
Canon has done it again.
removed a basic feature that existed for 15 years since in the 5D MKIII that (with MagicLantern) that seems to be still the only Canon camera that can Livestream and Record internally (as backup) a long video session like the full day conference that im streaming at the moment without stopping every 29:59.
i havnt checked the R7 R10 R50 R3 R8 yet, but i have the feeling that this is the case on most if not all new - continuously recording canon hybrid cameras.
i am completely bewildered by this move and very dissapointed to say the least. I am giving up on the hope for a proper all rounder from canon at this point. just don't trust them anymore.
im also quite surprised that nowhere is this mentioned in all the many reviews praising this camera. maybe no one streams multicam with Canon cameras, but if you are - be aware.
The EF lenses better with R6 MK ii than with old DLSRs. The comment about 3rd party I do not count and Canon is also opening up now to 3rd parties. My old 50mm f1.2 is perfect with R6.
LOL. When I still shot on my 6D and 6D mk2, UA-cam reviews kept nagging about the lack of dual card slots. Not a professional camera, because professionals need redundancy when shooting. Now R6 HAS dual card slots. AND is being used by professionals. And STILL. :-)
As a professional behavioural scientist I'd recommend some nudges. Package SD cards in pairs for your reviews and add switching on redundancy to the initial camera set-up checklist ;-)
Hi,please help with something, I want to buy this camera as i need a more compact camera for our studio and rung and gun, gimbal footage. We have a live streaming setup with an Atem Extreme ISO and 2 Blackmagic 6k Pro cameras. My question is, can i use this camera for live streaming for a few hours? I know there was a 30min limit for recording, i may seen a video with an firmware update which solves the 30 min recording limit. The camera will be connected to the Atem Extreme ISO through HDMI and may or may not record internally depending on needs. Mostly it will only stream through HDMI and the Atem will record all streams. Thank you in advance!