X-Men: The Last Stand - Nostalgia Critic
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One of the most hated X-Men movies might not actually be as bad as you think...I mean, it's still bad, but fun bad...maybe? Nostalgia Critic takes a look at X-Men: The Last Stand.
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X-Men: The Last Stand is a 2006 superhero film based on the X-Men superhero team introduced in Marvel Comics. It is the sequel to 2003's X2, as well as the third installment in the X-Men film series, and was directed by Brett Ratner and written by Simon Kinberg and Zak Penn. It features an ensemble cast including Hugh Jackman, Halle Berry, Ian McKellen, Famke Janssen, Anna Paquin, Kelsey Grammer, James Marsden, Rebecca Romijn, Shawn Ashmore, Aaron Stanford, Vinnie Jones, and Patrick Stewart.
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2:20 - 2:30 You fool!! Do you know what you've done?!
..... Still, not as bad as X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
3:21 - 3:30 They *both* look like PS4 characters! In fact, if this was PS4 quality, than Origins: Wolverine Xavier was original XBox quality.
4:15 - 4:31 Warren Worthington II: "Aw, it's okay son. It could be worse. You could be in a terrible 3D Robert Rodriguez movie with Taylor Lautner."
6:03 - 6:23 With Nicholas Hoult from Days of Future Past as a close second, Kelsey Grammer will always be the best cinematic adaptation of Beast.
Yeah, it is. Next question.
To be fair, saying a computer generated actor resembles a PS4 character in the year 2006 is quite a compliment.
Neither were completely computer generated though. Just a couple of CG tweaks here and there. Not saying that a PS4 character looks very real though.
2007
@@juliegavegan2241
X-Men the Last Stand : May 26, 2006 (United States)
Plus, the effect can be considered as post-production, and as such, done earlier than that. ;)
fosho
Glasses&Mouthplates I know, right. Has he ever even played The Witcher 3?
"There's nothing to cure" says the woman with powers so godly that she was worshipped as a goddess by her own people. Meanwhile discount Rogue over here would kill someone with a high-five.
Poor iceman at the end though, she's got years of pent up hormones that can get taken care of now, death by snu snu
@@randomguy2518 Death by "the cure is temporary as shown by Magneto"
"Fuck off, Ororo! Your powers make people think you're a literal goddess! Meanwhile, my powers make me the poster girl for fucking abstinence!"
@@rorylastname7635 was referring to the fact that,since she can now touch him, and she has never been able to act on any sexual urges... He may be fucked to exhaustion and beyond, hence "death by snu snu" a Futurama reference,in an epsisode where Fry,Zapp,and kiff are captured by horny 12foot space amazons
uhh stupid.
"Is there a cure?" asked the girl who kills every thing she touches. "You need no cure, you are perfect they way you are" answered the girl who could make clouds
i remember this from tumblr and its sssooo accurate
Yeah...but the Girl who kills what she touches...can also make clouds...or do literally anything anyone else can do...and fly (at least after she stole Ms Marvel's powers in the comics)
@Transgenda Gubament Well, if both are fully clothed... and wear protection... and don't kiss...
I'm not saying it'd be easy, but doable!
Storm looks normal has no issues controling her powers. If anyone didn't want a cure it would be her.
@No Way She /can/ feel it tho??? Through her clothes, just not direct skin to skin contact. She kisses Bobby in X2, put some freaking Batman & Robin latex lips on or something
Okay, but Wolverine lighting a cigar off a flaming car was the greatest scene in cinematic history lol
I’m sorry I ruined the perfect 200 but I like your comment very much
It's something wolverine would totally do
"Don't you know who I am? *I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH!!!"*
Who else agrees that Kellsy Gramer as Beast was one the highlight of the film ?
😁👌
I'm glad he highlighted the perfect casting of Kelsey Grammer. One of the few highlights from this film. 👌🏾👌🏾
I was hoping for the Dark Beast at one point so we could get the Sideshow Bob laugh.
The action too
Perhaps the only real high point of the film...
Yes
"Charles always wanted to build bridges"
"Why didn't he."
"His plan couldn't stand on it's own two feet."
These mutants are soooooo stoopid. Hee hee hee
Colossal oof.
Tsk! Picking on cripples/physically challenged & mutants/genetically challenged/oppressed minorities-who-can-actually-kick-the-majorities-@$$? Shame on you!!!
@Publius Aelius Hadrian Okay, against my judgment, I'll ask.
Why do I need to high every day? Not that's a bad idea, considering we, as a country, handed the Gold Codes, to a frakkin' idiot ..😠
Okay, I don't remember Beast looking so emotional when looking at his hand changing color. Acting 10/5.
Ok
@@paraonengatai5968ok
Magneto- “They will draw first blood”
Proceeds to murder 4 cars worth of people
😂😂😂😂😂
"4 cars worth of people" xD
Having their bodies crushed doesn't necessarily mean blood came out of their body
@@MarioBario uh yes it does
@@Abejaved obviously he's never squashed anything in his hands, he should try squishing a jelly donut and see how much jelly oozes out.
Did Storm really say "there's nothing wrong with you" to the girl who faces the risk of killing everyone she touches?
Yup, I kinda wanted Rogue to say "Have you not met me" or "You wouldn't say that if you harmed someone just by physical contact"
@@PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay Or, if we wanna go for the big point-make, take off her glove and reach out for Storm saying "Oh, really? You think so?"
"You can take your mutant pride and shove it, Ororo! I actually wanna get laid at some point!"
@@minionofgruumsh Or better.. "Oh REALLY?!.. Wanna Hold hands?" :D Takes gloves off
Yes, yes she did.
Beast's introduction to this movie was perfect. Just to see him upside down reading was so amazing it reminded so much of the animated series.
It's almost like the the producer and directors had seen the cartoon - but the writer had never seen anything X-Men (or, really, anything Marvel) ever...
Yeah, that is true.
@@2Scribble Tell that to X-Men First Class, Logan, and Deadpool 1 and 2.
@@xgray2012 One Writer Wrote The Avengers, The other went off and did the sequels to First Class.
I don't quite see the correlation of the argument here.
@SmashStomp Inc Yeah, I loved him in Frasier and he was awesome in this movie.
Tbh I think one of the main reasons why Kelsey Grammer does a good job as beast is cause he realy did want to play the character.
I just realized the kid cutting off his wings is from Sharkboy and Lavagirl.
This is the superhero crossover we need.
Damn he truly can act.
He ruined my dreamed casting!
I was just about to comment this!
So, sharkboy and Lavagirl are mutants, and the boy has the power to enter the dream realm?
Storm:There's nothing wrong with you.
Rogue: Everything I touch literally almost dies!!
For me this was the best insight of X-men movies; for Xavier and Magneto, it's easy for them to brag about being mutant, because their power are amazing and have no side effect. But what about Rogue or those mutants with silly powers (like frog related powers), that become outcast because of their weird appearence and dangerous powers. Is a complex question without a clear answer.
To me, the answer is pretty clear: If you wanna cure it, do it. If you got awesome powers or you like your lame power and find that the drawbacks are worth it, go ahead and keep them. It's a simple matter of choosing for yourself.
The harder question would be if mutants should be FORCED to take a cure if they have dangerous powers. On one hand doing so has an uncomfortably fascistic feel to me and people could be putting their powers to beneficial use, but on the other hand superpowered criminals sounds pretty bad too.
Why wouldn't the military militarize the dangerous ones instead of curing them? >.>
@@Nicholas_Steel Because the "weapons" can turn on you?
@@Nicholas_Steel Because they are people, not guns or stolen power armor suits. Its fine for the military to say "Are you a mutant freak? Join the Marines and use your powers to draw dicks in new and exciting locations, be all you can be with your genetic weirdness in the Army, the Navy has don't ask don't tell including for mutations, and the Air Force has comfortable chairs even for the most freakiest of freaks". Forcing them to serve seems really messed up.
Storm: There's nothing more to cure because there's nothing wrong with us
She said to the girl who would kill her boyfriend if he touched her
ImmaLittlePip Not kill immediately.
@@millasboo Jesus, close enough.
Keep in mind that it happened before.
And said by the woman who controls the weather
While she, the african godess of the weather with hair color matching anime style black characters, says it in a inspiration tone.
"This kid deserves a friggin Oscar for the less than one minute of acting he's given!"
*FYI, that is the kid whose DREAM JOURNAL got ruined the previous year*
What?!
Oh shit, I didn’t even realize that was him
Wait… that was MAX from Sharkboy & Lavagirl?!?!
HOLY SHIT THATS HIM???
Hold tf up-
Jean Grey, everyone: Disintegrating people twelve whole years before Thanos.
funnily enough,they were also brought back with the help of time travel.
I always thought the Pheonix activating was because of her dying.
You know, because when Pheonixs die they are reborn?
the problem is they state she didnt die in the first place.
@@voilvelev6775 Maybe she subconsciously thought she did and that's what freed it. If I had the water of an entire dam falling over me I think I'd consider my chances of survival zero.
@@kou7191 jean is op it should take a lot more than water to take her down... she harbored a COSMIC entity
@@voilvelev6775 that's why I hate the old xmen films for trying to ground a series that's meant to be spectacular in scope
@monstersinthecity, EXACTLY THIS!
All of these superhero movies try too hard to ground the spectacular. Especially the Marvel Netflix series (I'm particularly looking at Iron Fist). It's been a problem since Spiderman. The Tobey one. Which I'm 70% sure came out before X-Men, could be wrong.
Doctor Strange is described as having a weird form of technology or science. Galactus was made into a cosmic storm thing instead of a giant purple man. The actual Purple Man wasn't purple. David Tennant could sell it and you know it. Thanos is a murderous radical activist instead of being obsessed with the literal incarnation of Death. Spiderman was effing bitten by a "genetically-altered spider." Having different genes doesn't grant superpowers any more than radiation does! Iron Man's trilogy is the only collection of movies that make sense grounded, and they succeeded in making them really spectacular and fun!
Why does everything else have to suffer...
Xavier turned into dust before it was cool
Logan, I don't feel so good...
@@mateuszmarciniak2828 he smiled
How did he come back to life at the end if he was pulverized?
@Turner Marius Wrong, you're thinking of the prequels. In this movie, Xavier survived by projecting his consciousness into the body of his comatose twin brother who was under the care of Moira McTaggart.
@@repapeti98 watch the movie
I remember as a kid, my mom walked in on me watching this movie. She saw Beast and immediately knew it was Kelsey Grammer. She thought the movie was a step down from him because it was a comic book movie, but she said, "Even with all that on him, he's incredible."
When people who don't even like these kinds of movies love your performance, you know you nailed casting.
Kelsey Grammer was good as Beast surprisingly. As a kid watching him on Frasier I'd never would have imagine him as a good choice for Beast.
THAT'S WHO HE IS! I KNEW HIS VOICE WAS FAMILIAR!
He was also in cheers
He was very good in this film
Until the role was lent to Nicholas Hoult for four more films.
Not to mention Grammer cameoed in X-Men: Days of Future Past as well.
I was surprised too, originally. But looking back at the movie now, there are a lot of similarities between Frasier and Hank McCoy. Both doctors, both smarter than most of the people around them. It makes sense in a strange way.
I though the most hated X-Men movie was Origins Wolverine
i think you are right
Well.... it *WAS* the most hated until Origins: Wolverine made Deadpool shut up. Pretty sure that pissed a lot more people off and made people negotiate their previous hatred for TLS.
@@JasonICECarson yup, even Ryan Reynolds fixed that and another problem movie goers had for a certain DC movie
Wolverine origins was supposed to be a start to a franchise. But it bombed to badly. Plus I don't think it's considered an X-Men movie.
Will Slattery no it’s this one because we don’t talk about X-men origins
Too quote the meme.
"They can cure us!" Says the girl who can't touch any living being without risking killing it.
"No we're perfect and don't need a cure" says the woman who can manipulate the freaking weather.
No the meme is:
"They can cure us?!" Asks the girl who kills people by touching them
"Shut up we're perf!" Says the girl who MAKES CLOUDS
Lexi Barrow except for that doesn’t make sense since controlling the weather is fucking op
@@alexmansfield3268 Don't you get the joke? She got the better power.
"Finally, a cure for my chainsaw hands!" decreed Chainsaw-Hands Joe.
"There is no cure," said Johnny Five-Dicks, "There's nothing wrong with us."
LOL, If I were Rogue I'd have been like "Oh REALLY"? and just full on grabbed Storm by the neck and held on to her til she was nothing but a skeleton!!! Damn, that was kinda dark....
OK. I think we can all agree that Hugh Jackman/Wolverine & Bruce Campbell/Ash teaming up would be friggin' awesome.
I don't think it would be awesome.
But it would definitely be GROOVY
Kelsey Grammer was the best thing in this movie. Perfect casting!
I agree. His portrayal of Beast was just spot on.
Totally agree, wish he could reprise the role~ new beast has been one of the worst parts of the current series.
HE ACKNOWLEDGED NORM OF THE NORTH TWO!!! NOW HE MUST REVIEW IT!!!
NO!!!!! He shaved his head last time!!!!! If he reviews the second one, he'll probably shave his facial hair, lose his hat or tie, or change the color his wall........AGAIN!!!!! 😵😵😵
If only he could acknowledge that Where the Dead Go To Die exists
Gottem
My mind is boggled when he showed a sequel to a movie that NOBODY ASKED FOR!!! Also, never heard that they made a sequel of the shitty shit movie.
He absolutely has to do Norm of the North 2. He shouldn't have acknowldged it if he wasnt gonna do it.
I’m looking forward for Wolverine origin
And the “Deadpool”
If Annoying Cosplay Deadpool from the Green Lantern review doesn’t return as a joke, I will be disappointed.
Jay Arby I KNOW MAN!!!!
@@jayarby8494 whas he not kulled in the Deadpool 2 review?
Merc without mouth! ;-)
eventyraren continuity means very little to Deadpool and will somehow find a way and im having my fingers crossed for rick and morty
I totally agree that this movie had the best moments of the three: sentinels in the danger room, finally showing a comic-accurate beast, Ice Man finally icing up, and doing something with X-men other than the core cast of the previous movies. it was a shame the overall plot was a mess.
The biggest problem is it jumped super fast from point a to point b, and so on and didnt expand any characters aside from wolverine, Jean and magneto, and basically when people die, they just die with them barely having any screen time
To add to the list of things we wish Magneto would've said in this scene: "I'm going to steal the golden gate bridge and there's nothing you can do about it!" and "Suck it Carmen SanDiego!"
Storm: there's nothing wrong with you
Rogue: I NEARLY STOLE THE LIFE FORCE FROM SOMEONE WHO CAN HEAL FROM ANYTHING JUST BY TOUCHING HIM FOR A MOMENT
Exactly, movie Rogue has all the right to get cured. :P
That's what I was thinking Rogues powers are horrible
Tony Stark: Look! we have found this girl outside, she says she wants to know you.
Carol Danvers: Who would be this lovely girl? Why so shy? Come over here, I want to know everything about you!
*Rogue enters the room*
@@WigantX Well, that would give us more likeble character than the current captain marvel, so yeah
And what about those people who are like human birds?
You know a bit I really remember (and kind of like) about this movie? So at the end of that church scene, when Magneto is approached by the members of that mutant gang, they ask him about a 'mark', clearly a tattoo to show off mutant pride.
"Oh, I have a mark, my dear. And I assure you, no needle will ever touch my skin again."
And he shows his HOLOCAUST NUMBER. Sort of a reminder that Magneto's been through the exact kind of 'round them up and kill them' thing that he just go through warning the gathering about.
Yep, is a this time my people can fight back
Powerful, powerful scene.
It's a really underrated moment that honestly really hits me hard
The sad thing is, did the other characters understand what he meant? Even if you've learned about the Holocaust, it's two different things to hear about something and actually live through it.
Critic/Doug,
Surprised you didn't say anything when Storm (whom is in full control of her power) says to Rogue "There's nothing wrong with you" When we see a scene or two ago with Rogue saying "I can't even touch my boyfriend without killing him"
the whole point of the school is to learn to control them
@@SpaceAlley Her power is uncontrollable.
@Go Time Now Rogue is in the school to help mitigate the damage her powers can do. If she's not being carefully watched, she could slip up and do something as little as forget to put gloves on, and kill someone.
@Go Time Now Because it's the only place that would have her.
"because everyone thinks the dark phoenix is the only part of the phoenix there was." oof, too true.
Jean wasn’t even a villain in Dark Phoenix. Even the cast and crew said she wasn’t.
Fun fact; this movie went through a lot of production hell. Fox only wanted the cure plotline and wanted the Dark Phoenix cut out entirely but I guess Ratner realized it would piss fans off when the tease in X2 proved to be a line. By the time that Fox caved, preproduction was coming to an end and filming was about to start and they rushed the explanation. That is why the Phoenix personality bullshit is a thing and why she spent most of acts 2 and 3 standing around staring.
@@lorddrayvon1426 I can't believe I'm saying this, but Fox probably made the right call in only wanting the cure storyline; they could've saved the phoenix story for a film 4 and the cure storyline was easily the best parts of this film.
@@matthewmuir8884 wouldn't be too surprised it wasn't stellar. Same writer as Elektra, Aang Lee's The Incredible Hulk and The Avengers (that really shit movie based on the British TV series). Regardless of fault, Zak Penn seems to have a talent for writing garbage their superhero movies. He's also the creator of Syfy's Alphas oddly enough.
"There's nothing wrong with you."
Bold thing to say to someone who kills anyone she touches, Miss Godly-Powers.
Storm: There's nothing wrong with you.
Rogue: People get electrocuted when you have PMS, Storm.
PKMN Trainer Mark you stupid idiot.
Only God has Godly powers NOBODY else you hear me?
Same thing for the Senator. You're child can literally FLY why would you take that from him lol.
APDaBaron kids can’t fly 🤦♂️
God is real. Your dumb if you don’t believe
1. God would not want you calling people dumb ( I'm Catholic, I know what your trying to say but it comes out as rude)
2. Don't take what PKMN so seriously when he said "Miss Godly-Powers.
3. ApdaBaron was talking about the senator's kid (Angel) who can fly, nit literal random people's children.
4. Have a great day and life and may God be with you. 👍☺️🙃
You know the Juggernaut meme was played out when even Deadpool 2 didn't use it.
i was actually waiting for it. It would have made sense for that line to be in there and for Deadpool to make a joke about being a washed up internet meme before being ripped in half. It was just dumb as hell here. And dont even get me started on the mutant suppressor working on him. Unless i am mistaken Juggernaut gets his power from the gem of cyttorak. Even when i was young and stupid that shit pissed me off soooo bad
I don’t get it, what’s so bad about that line?
@@danielbaier3717 Yeah, comic Juggs isn't even a mutant at all.
@@Noobie2k7 well he's a dormant mutant but yes he mainly gained his powers from the gem of cyttorak
@TheSmashMaster9000 2006 is when it surfaced I believe.
"There's nothing to cure. Nothing is wrong with you, or any of us for that matter."
Says the woman who basically won the mutant lottery.
You’d think that would have acknowledged a genuine tension between true mutants with defects and others just “blessed” with extraordinary powers, but they just carry on that Storm is in the right and expect the audience feels that way too.
@@kamdan2011 Beast's "you don't shed on the carpet" retort was a good response, but sadly it felt rather token overall because the narrative is clearly on Storm's side. The story just didn't lean enough into the counterarguments, making it seem like Beast was in the wrong when he had a very good point.
I think the speech Logan gave to Rogue where he said that she can take the cure, and that she just has to make sure it's what she wants should've been what Storm said. It got the point across much better instead of sounding insensitive.
@@SavouryGalette I remember that line always sticking with me. Logan being a caring friend who didn't want to stifle her choices, but just to make sure she knew what her choice really meant
@@Zenn_Chan I can tell why it stuck with you. It's nice that the movie showed how deeply Wolverine cares about the X-Men, because not only are they his teammates, they're also his friends, which actually makes their deaths hit harder.
“Because of water.” No. It was heavily implied in X2 that Jean had been “different” since Liberty Island. Probably her use of Cerebro began the breakdown of the psychic barriers. Her powers were “off” during X2. That’s why she could only stop one missile and not both. The closer Phoenix got to the surface, the less control Jean had. Because she was fighting for control. At the end of X2, she gave in to it to save everyone.
"THERE IS NO JEAN. ONLY PHEONIX"
What a lovely singing voice you have there.
For anyone curious, it actually was a Ghostbusters 1 reference btw.
@@nouveauprofil I noticed it.
Nice Ghostbusters (1984) reference there!!
Kinda disappointed he didn't just say Zuul.
@@nouveauprofil Huh, I thought it was referencing Fant4stic. "There is no Victor, there is only Doom."
Inside-out spine boy who can't walk, and can't talk because he vomits pigeons: ...
Storm: There's nothing to cure because there's nothing wrong with you.
I'd watch that movie.
"Oh woman whose only power literally drains the life force from anyone she touches killing them instantly thus rendering you completely incapable of human touch, one of the strongest and most intimate senses a human has, theres nothing wrong with you"
Big, loud, fun, energetic, imaginative, visually stunning, action packed
Sounds very white of you
Oh, blue demon man who wants to simple practice his faith and not be looked upon with fear. there's is nothing wrong with you.
"That magnificent metal doesn't run through your entire body, does it?"
OMG I DIED!!
Fortunately, Days of Future past deleted this time line
Now if only someone could erase X-Men: Apocalypse movie
Not deleted from the this time line
True
Yeah, so we could get a shitter timeline with Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.
@@davidaaronartist Yeah this timeline got deleted, Days of Future Past pretty much set everything back to zero, including this timeline.
Fun fact: The boy who played young Angel, Cayden Boyd, also played Max in "Sharkboy and Lavagirl".
I saw the resemblance
wow, he REALLY improved
Mariokemon what are YOU talking about? I like Sharkboy and Lavagirl a lot.
I WAS GONNA SAY LOL
YOu StOlE mY DrEAm JOurnAl!!!!!!
there's actually an alternate ending where Rogue comes back and says "I couldn't do it" and then holds the hand of Bobby with her gloved hand, and I think that was the better ending, the alternate ending was better
update: oh, you mentioned the alternate ending
Yeah, it's in the video. Did you not just see it?
@@smallmanbigmouth2699 I commented before I saw him mention it
@@KatOwO2235 clearly.
In the commentary it's talked about, I think it's said they had Rogue take the cure because Anna Paquin wasn't very available and they wanted a reason to justify her being gone for so much of the movie or something like that.
@@Dagenspear again, I typed it before I saw that part of the video
The only reason Logan works is it had more time to build up these relationships with these characters and it made it all the better and sadder to see them all go
I do gotta say, one of the most consistent strengths of the original X-men trilogy was the chemistry between Charles and Magneto. How they’re fighting for opposite causes but each still respects the other as an adversary and almost as a friend.
Fifty Shades Of Jean Grey?!😂👍👏
If it's Famke, we can only dream.
Project Titain I think that’s a meme
Lolll
Douglas are you ok?
Douglas what were you on when you made that ad?
Douglas you seem to be acting unusual these days.
WOW.
BANA Nawal he’s not on drugs he just wants a Pepsi.
u think so
19:46 GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!
WOW.
Scott wilson I know so
X-Men The Last Stand: Im The Worst X-Men Movie To Be Made
Dark Pheniox: Hold My Beer
DP wasn't great, but it was better than this.
Even the original writer of the Dark Phoenix Comic Story liked DP.
@@northwindkey Dark Phoenix was one of the worst films I've ever seen in my life. If I hadn't been with a group of people I would have walked out.
@@mcnamaraky It's really not terrible. Especially when you learn how badly both Fox and Disney meddled with Kinberg's original idea (Which was a two movie epic). Just when Fox got through butchering it, Disney forces them to reshoot half of it because it's "too similar to Captain Marvel" (Even though DP predates CM).
For example, the original ending of DP is an emotional, heartbreaking powerhouse of a scene. It's on UA-cam and it's amazing. But Disney hates anything dramatic and non-comedic, so we didn't get that.
I'd love to see a Director Cut. Though sadly Kinberg never truly had control. It's not like Josstice League where the original version was actually shot and finished before suits decided to piss on it. Suits were pissing on DP since 2016.
But honestly? Origins is still worse.
Super John 123 um have you forgotten X-Men Origins Wolverine?
@@RJIS According to Rotten Tomatoes, Dark Phoenix is worse than origins. And thus Rotten Tomatoes continues to suck. They also have Batman 89 rated lower than every MCU movie, Batman v Superman below Batman Forever, and Spiderman Far From Home as the highest rated Spiderman movie.
I'm gonna go vomit from the thought of anyone thinking Iron Boy is better than Spiderman 2.
This movie had the action down, but the story telling sucked.
The thing that always got me about this film is that the weaponized cure is used on Magneto rather than Jean.
Surely having something that could cure Jean of the Phoenix, but take away her powers (part of her identity and her life) in the process would have been an interesting moral decision for the X-Men.
Bro, if they used the cure on Jean that would’ve been soooooo much better...... I deadass wanna see that alternate ending. Instead of him stabbing her he cures her and they learn to get along, Jean becomes the new headmaster although she’s cured.
I mean, it wouldn't work given the comic book canon, given that Phoenix Force would probably not be affected by it, but it's not like they were following the comic book canon either way, so maybe they forgot that they changed the canon after the third hit of whatever they were smoking when writing this shit.
@Ritokure The original ending for the Dark Phoenix was Jean losing her powers.
@@agentofchaos7456 Now I'm sad they didn't go that route.
Deathlygunn technically she disintegrated everything on Alcatraz Island and I’m assuming the cure right along with it. But they probably would have needed 6+ just to even do something since she’s so immensely powerful. Theirs even a deleted scene where she turns a freaking metal mug into a literal star.
Beast: (gives Magneto the cure)
Golden Gate Bridge: (not where it should be)
good work, heroes. now the Bay Area is screwed.
Well, it's not like Magneto could just put it back. With all the damage, they'd pretty much have to rebuild it. If Magneto could just drop it back where it was, it'd barely be safe to walk on, let alone drive over.
Don't worry, Master Chief will finish the bridge after he finishes the fight!
It might bring down the house prices.
@@rayanderson5797 they could still salvage most of the steel to rebuild it but having the steel all the way over at Alcatraz is very inconvenient if they were going to reuse it
@@KhanGarth they'd be cutting it up for scrap at that point, at which point they'd have to haul it off to a foundry. Something like that was never meant to move. It'd be a miracle if anything was still intact, and even if it was, it would be smarter just to rebuild it all. If Magneeto hadn't been holding the whole thing, it would have just disintigrated, and probably did once he dropped it. It's just a bridge-shaped pile of rubble now.
1:46 Really Last Stand is hated more than Origins: Wolverine.
It's a setup for the joke at the end.
And then “Dark Phoenix” happened 13 years later. At least “Last Stand” is enjoyably bad but I remember liking it well enough when I saw it since I was a 12 year old girl
6:25 Kelsey Grammer did very good job as “The Beast” and well deserve for his own motivation development same as Nicholas Hoult in other “X-Men” back up series. He even came back in cameo in “Days of Future Past.”
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Felipe Rico tbh, I don’t like Nicholas Hoult as Beast. He seems to much of a pussy, not to mention he pretty much never turns into the beast except for the third act and maybe a scene or two that needs a funny slapstick joke like throwing Wolverine across the manner. Nicholas just comes across as too much of a Peter Parker, shy nerdy kid type. I get that if you have the power to change from blue hairy beast to your regular self you would stay your regular self, but wasn’t Beast’s whole mutation that he’s stuck like that??? Nicholas just doesn’t have as much suave and sophistication to come off as a good Hank McCoy. Kelsey Grammar though, by God it’s like I’m watching the animated series!!!!! He got everything perfectly! Nicholas Hoult as well as the entire new wave of X-Men was miscast. I’m sorry but I’d rather not see women drooling over Magneto, a man that wants to wipe out humanity for what they did to him an his family.
*Sees people turning to dust*
*Waits for Infinity War/Thanos joke*
Ah there it is!
When doug defends a movie, it feels like he was the director
Has me wish he could have done what he did for Follow That Bird and gave Chester step in
"I kinda have a soft spot for it.
*cue clip from The Office*
*Slaps desk* THANK YOU!
The acting in this film was amazing though..especially from
Sir Ian. That look when he realizes he’s been injected with the anti mutant serum is unreal.
Can we just give a quick shout out to Doug for constantly thinking of creative ways to promote these sponsorships? lol
I agree, I usually skip through youtube ads, but I'll actually watch Dougs all the way through for being entertaining.
this one was creative and awsome :)
That's sarcasm right?
Blxck Shxggy Fuck yeah! It's a rare treat to get to watch truly entertaining ads. This is nice.
Just saw the film. Here are my notes:
I, too, find myself having a bit of a soft spot for the film (not alone NC).
The idea of having a "cure" for the mutant gene is very intriguing, and the fact that it brought a divided debate is very realistic.
The fact that Magneto's powers came back, I see as because they didn't seem to have tested it on mutants prior, and they said they only "replicated" the DNA of the child (replicates are almost never the exact same as the original, and some liberties may come into play).
Rogue taking the cure was justified, as she stated earlier in the film, she wanted to touch people, give a hug, and even kiss without killing someone.
The "re-emergance" of the Phoenix seemed to have actually come from Jean herself in X2, as, several times, her eyes were going a reddened gold color, and, right before she was engulfed by the water, the fiery glow came around her, and so, the Phoenix could've taken over at that point, building power over the time that she was gone. Also, on that note, anyone know how long it was (movie timeline) between the two films? A month? Several years?
Beast being a "hypocrite" when giving the weaponized cure to Magneto was because they needed him taken care of and neutralized.
The fact that Charles came back, no idea, since his death was fine... In that, leaving it in as it was heartbreaking.
And, the debate and views were possibly my favorite part of the movie. Which would you choose? Would you "cure" yourself and live a normal human life, or is the mutant gene just another thing that makes you... Well, you?
All in all, I do understand why people don't like it, but, you can't deny that it's good moments... Are unbelievably amazing. The debate, the ideas, the graphics, and the action scenes are amazingly well done, but, for an hour and forty minute movie, it was just a bit rushed. More time was needed so that everything could be well developed, so we could care more, and so that everything flowed naturally. Had this movie been two and a half hours or, dare I say it, three hours long, then it probably could've all worked and enough time might've been given to flesh out all of the ideas, fix the plot holes as best they could, and possibly make this movie not so hated.
People, everyone is entitled to their own opinion!!! If someone says this movie is good, I'll listen to them and see, as well as understand, why they think so. If someone says this movie is the worst, I'll listen to them and see, as well as understand, why they think so. The internet was made to share our ideas and opinions with open arms, not force our feelings down others throats.
Nostalgia Critic, I hadn't seen the X-Men films (at least, not all of them in their entirety) , but I still watched, laughed at, listened, and understood your opinion on the franchise. I don't know what I'll think of the films in the future (watching through them now, only saw 1-3), but, I will have my own opinion, and, possibly, compare my thoughts to yours.
Thanks for sharing....
Have you seen the later movies now?
@@wireboar7321 yeah.
Yay! I'm not the only one who considers Last Stand a guilty pleasure!
16:14 Jean disintegrates people about a decade before Thanos does.
who's Jean? Do you mean Jean Valjean? From Les Miserables? A role that Hugh Jackman played? WHO played Wolverine?
@@obiwankenobi9141🤦♂️
I thought Kelsey Grammar was perfect as Beast.
Kesley Grammer just might be perfect in everything. He's just a *gem* in Trollhunters.
Mohd Amerul Aidil I was
@Mohd Amerul Aidil Hoults human Ego is great. His Beast not so much.
That said he does a great job each time
The Makeup is horrible, he looks like a Halloween costume. In the action seen in the end it just looks too much like bad wire work. They should have CGed him. Even bad CG would be better than that trash.
Nicolas Holt is good too. But I wish there was more of him as a big, blue cat monster. Especially in Days of Future Past.
I laughed out loud in the theatre at the ending of X-Men 3 because I had literally seen Van Helsing 2 days prior and that was basically the same ending.
How many photogenic / romantic gut stabbings does Hugh Jackman actually have in his film career?
I dunno, but somebody should check.
Probably a lot
Wolverine: what’s your superpower
Little girl: my powers to make other people not have powers
Patton Oswalt: Let her try the Avengers they'll take anybody
24:41 Hey look it’s everyone’s reaction to the Micheal Bay Transformers, Disney live-action remakes, Sonic the Hedgehog, Detective Pikachu, Teen Titans Go, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the Amazing Spider-Man, Deviant Art fetishes, Fan4stic, Micheal Bay Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the Star Wars prequels, The Mummy 2017, Ghostbusters 2016, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Superman IV Quest for Peace, The Emoji Movie, Norm of the North, Strange Magic, Alvin and the Chipmunks, the unnecessarily long Frozen shorts, Super Mario Bros. Movie, and.....
“How can you say something so controversial yet so brave”
That is NOT Arch-Angel! That is only Angel.
Arch-Angel is blue and has adamantium wings.
With blade feathers shooting out of them!
FARBerserker Only the Bible will tell you the truth about angels. You idiot you are looking at movies for angels well these ones are FAKE! These are lies from Hollywood
@@thiscfra4063 what the hell is wrong with you
@@rayshiotile9487 he's triggered
@@thiscfra4063 Are you trolling or just dumb. and @Farberserker you are correct about arch-angel vs angel
God is real. Your dumb if you don’t believe Are you joking? I want to say you are because there’s no way someone named themselves that and not be satire or joking
Magneto: Don't let anyone inside
Juggernaut: Alright come over here so I can throw you inside
juggernaut: this bitch empty yeet
Wolverine supporting Rogue's decision, and just trying to make sure it's what she wants, was an amazing moment. Logan is awesome 👍
6:39 This is one of the things I like X-Men The Last Stand. I like the whole debate they tried to have about whether or not it is ethical to cure the Mutants. It reminds me a lot around the debate about Autism. Is Autism a disability that ought to fixed or is is a part of a person's identity that should be accepted. As someone who has Aspergers I really liked how this issue was being addressed.
PS. I still have a lot of issues with this movie. For example I hate Brett Ratner for the way he treated Ellen Page on the set of this film.
Man, that ... kind of hits close to home for me. I have ADHD, a disability linked to autism. Personally, the DNA inside you is who you are. Nothing else can change that. Cure yourself? That's conforming to social norms, but it's also taking part of yourself away! Never change who you are, people.
@@powerrangernerd8122 but what about people with a disability like Stephen hawking? Shouldn't that be cured so they can live an actual life?
Sure, aspergers isnt that bad but there are so many birth defects that are a major issue, so why not cure them?
On another note, what If you're born without legs? Isn't getting prosthetics or a wheelchair a cure?
You mean Elliot Page
@@powerrangernerd8122 Given mutants get their powers through genetic mutants I think discussions about if it is something to cure has closer similarities to real-life genetic disorders, many that can severally impact the life of the person with the mutation not be cute quirks like ADHD.
Storm's power can be like Marfan syndrome: a genetic disorder that as long as you get a proper diagnosis and treatment when it comes to the cardiovascular system you can live a full natural life.
While Rogue's can be compared to xeroderma pigmentosum: a disorder that slows the repair of DNA caused by ultraviolet light to the point that just spending a few minutes in the sun can result in a severe sunburn, there can also be hearing and sight loss, poor coordination, loss of intellectual function, seizers, 50% chance of skin cancer by age 10 as well as other cancers, mainly brain cancer, and natural lifespan is 30 years shorter than the average person, and like Rogue to spend time outside in the sun they have to be covered head to toe.
Pretty easy to see why a person with XP might not mind the idea of gene therapy since it would mean that they could do something as simple as go to the park during the day without having to have every part of them covered. Like how Rogue here would like to be able to actually touch someone without worrying about killing them.
@@Poever I think he hadn’t come out yet when this comment was made.
7:40 - Love how Storm thinks she's got a right to comment on this cure and saying that "There's nothing wrong with us." when she's standing next to a girl who LITERALLY KILLS ANYONE SHE TOUCHES FOR TOO LONG! YOU CONTROL THE WEATHER LOVE, IT'S NOT THE SAME. It's a bit like stubbing your toe at a funeral and saying "God, this is the WORST thing that could have happened today!"
I agree, but many people insert their opinions when they don't understand other people's problems.
Have you ever stubbed your toe? It is literally the worst.
It's a good metaphor for disability/illness groups. "Mental illness is just a difference that needs to be accommodated and not cured" yeah but like if you could flip a switch and not feel like shit, you're an asshole to deny that to people who want it. There are support groups at there that have been proven to make things worse because the moment you can almost function, you're out of the club.
I've always felt that mutation was, in these movies, at least, an allegory for alternate sexualities, particularly homosexuality. There have been attempts at creating cures for being gay, and there are those who would willingly take it. That creates resentment in those of us who are fine with the way we are, because it implies that there is something wrong with us. Not to mention, as Magneto said, it would only be a matter of time before it went from voluntary to mandatory.
Ken Hollis The problem with that is that the allegory of alternate sexuality is very weak when it’s about having super powers. Rogue can kill people by simply TOUCHING THEM, how is that in anyway comparable to something like homosexuality? Simply liking the same sex is NOT the same thing as being a living nuke, I’m sorry but the allegory simply fails on that front. On the voluntary versus mandatory debate if we’re talking about doing that to super powered terrorists with abilities like Magneto’s, which may I remind you could level cities in a matter of minutes if used lethally, like say controlling all the metal nukes, who simply can’t be arrested under normal means, than that debate isn’t as black and white as you make it see .
hopefully he does go as far as to give credit to the two good things in Origins.
1. the opening scene with the wars of history montage.
2. Liev Schrieber as Sabertooth.
Number 1 is good but bad.
It's really good, so good that it should've been what the movie was about.
@@sevach agreed.
I also enjoy the actor of gambit in the movie as he portrays his characteristic quite well on screen.
It would of been so awesome to see Wolverine fighting in wars across history.
Also, introduce characters in those movies for present time settings.
24:23 what I came for
"There is no Jean, only Phinoex!"
Wolverine: "oh my, what a lovely singing voice you have!"
Cant wait for that X-Men Origins Wolverine critique!
He has Origins, The Wolverine, Logan, First Class, DOFP, and Apocalypse to do yet... There's only one Wednesday left this month... How is he gonna squeeze 5 movies into one episode?
@@wayneigoe6722 Maybe he is going to have very short commentaries about the rest of the series at the end, or save them for next year.
I SWEAR TO GOD IF HE SAYS THAT VICTOR CREED AKA SABRETOOTH WAS TERRIBLE IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM I WILL CASTRATE HIM!!
THE REST OF X MEN ORIGINS SUCKED EXCEPT FOR HIM HE WAS THE ONE SAVING GRACE THE BEST THING FROM THE ENTIRE MOVIE
HE HAD THE BACKSTORY THE DYBAMIC AND THE BADASSNESS THAT MADE SABRETOOTH WOLVERINES NEMESIS AND HE WAS WAY BETTER THAN SABRETOOTH FROM THE FIRST MOVIE!!!
@@godofevil9468 He actually did praise X-Men Origin's Sabretooth while reviewing first X-Men movie.
@@emperorfaiz Did he? i don;t recall that.
I was hoping that the Critic would reference Thanos as characters were turning to dust.
He didn't disappoint .
Right?! As soon as I saw that, I was like 'oh, that looks like Infinity War........ Thanos joke incoming!' Sure enough!~
That kid who played young Angel performed some of the best acting I’ve ever seen in a movie. He’s better than a lot of adults I’ve seen, especially in this franchise.
4:38 I remember how there was sooooo much hype for Angel joining the X-Men, and then it turned out HE WAS BARELY IN IT, DID NEXT TO NOTHING, AND HE DIDN'T EVEN JOIN THE TEAM IN THE END. But like the Critic says, the fight scenes are fun and the movie does ask the difficult questions about the ethics of a mutant willingly removing their powers. If nothing else, we were all clueless to the fact that the X-Men movies could definitely get worse from here.
Things I remember X-men 3 doing right:
Juggernaut meme
Fight on Alcatraz Island
Storm's hair (seriously, she never looked more beautiful ❤)
What about beast
Listen, I remembered these things before I watched the review
Me at the start of the video: Really? People hated this? I remember liking this movie the most out of the entire initial trilogy.
Me at the end of the video: Well I mean... yeah.
And of course,
Me in the middle of the video: Wow... Stamps...
Me after watching this video: Why isn't anyone watching Deadpool 1 and 2 like I am?!
Wow!!! Ive got to get me some stamps ! Thanks Douglas.
I just didn't like the cliffhanger ending that went nowhere. Instead we got the real worst X-MEN movie that brought Deadpool into the spotlight.
The first part when Magneto and Xavier go to see the young Jean always made me think of Dumbledore visiting the child Voldemort
11:55 Magneto isn't fucking around this time
Th-
They ma-
They made NORM OF THE NORTH 2?!??!??!!!?!
*screams inside*
*screams outside*
My neighbour: oh Christ, I forgot about the sequel.
Oh it gets worse they're making a third one called Norm of the North Arctic All Stars. I'm dead serious.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@@dominiqueradford9469 There is not enough "No" in the world that can make up for this.
@@stevenriley9312 But why? Did the movies get that much success?
Wait a minute. Sorry they actually combined two ideas which were Arctic All Stars and something called Back to the City to make the second Norm of the North. My bad. Though I can't believe we live in a world with 2 of these.
Ya mentioned it, now you have to review Norm of the North 2
Handington save it for sequel month 3
@@yoga_bear. Good point!
@@madcap3450 There are mysteries to life we have yet to understand
@@madcap3450 They already have, emotionally at least
Fun fact: After Bryan Singer rejected this film to do Superman Returns, Mathew Vaughn, who directed Kick-Ass and X-men First Class, was signed on to direct this film. And he actually went through the process a little bit, as he was the one responsible for the casting of Beast and Juggernaut, and also wrote an early rough version of the script.However, something happened where I think Vaughn lost interest or was directing another film, and he departed the movie. After that, the studio quickly grabbed Brett Ratner to do the rest of the film. So for the people saying that Ratner did one good thing in the film with the casting of Beast, it wasn't even him that did that.
It also proves to me that DC, Marvel, and other comic book companies should really give Vaughn more chances. It's obvious that he's a huge comic book fan and knows how to represent comic book characters. I got pissed when I read that DC rejected his vision of superman, it sounded really cool with a trilogy with each one focused on a different part of Clark's life, with Charlie Cox from Daredevil as Vaughn's choice for Superman. Instead they rejected him and we got Man of Steel, which was alright at best.
5:39 fun fact: Gambit was gonna be in this third movie, he actually was going to be part of this love triangle with Rogue and Ice man, instead of kitty pride, but they change that when they knew they were already plans for him in x men origins
He would have fitting in perfect
I like how Storm says there’s nothing wrong with you to a person who can’t touch anyone without killing them while she’s able to literally control the weather
Y'know, if they really wanted to dive into Jean's psyche while she visited her childhood home, they could have done a scene like this (Keep in mind that I'm lifting a lot from the excellent TV show Wolverine and the X-Men):
A de-aged Professor X now in a wheelchair and a young Scott Summers meet Jean at her house. At this point she's been having monthly sessions with Prof X to learn to control her powers, but she refuses to leave her parents and go to Charles' new Academy. Jean is visibly older, perhaps 14. Jean is shocked to see Prof X in a wheelchair and asks what happened, and where Erik is. Prof X sighs and says that Erik and he had "disagreements", and that they will no longer working together. The subject is very touchy for him. He perks up though because he introduces Jean to his school's first official student; Scott Summers. Scott and Jean act all awkward, as you'd expect 14 year olds prepubescents with laser eyes and mind control powers to act.
Later, Jean and Charles start their session, but something is different this time. Charles is having to constantly tell Jean to dial her powers back, and one thing leads to another and Jean ends up accidentally diving into Prof X's mind. She witnesses his fight with Magneto and, traumatised by the fighting she's watching and the fact that she just unwittingly invaded someone's mind against their will- Something she's been trying to avoid through her sessions- Jean's telekinetic powers start acting up. Objects fly everywhere. Jean's parents hide and Prof X is still mind whammied, but Scott manages to calm Jean down by telling her about how Prof X has been teaching him to control his powers, and how the Academy is a beautiful place, and more junk like that that centres Jean and allows her to stop. Afterwards, she calls out her parents for hiding as she was freaking out, and storms off to her room. The scene ends with Prof X telling Jean's guilty and terrified parents that it's time for Jean to attend the Academy, and that he'll have to put a mental block on her powers.
I like this idea because it continues the scene that the movie opened with, establishes more of a reason for Scott and Jean to be a couple, sets up why Jean would return to her childhood home by making her resent her parents' neglect of her powers, and lastly this scene would show how Jean's Phoenix powers began to surface without the use of exposition. In my opinion, the Pheonix was an aggressive manifestation of Jean resenting how scared her parents were of her powers. Heck, Jean's relationship with her parents could even help prove that many mutants and their families need a cure.
Anyways, you read this whole thing, then props to you 😂
Honestly, if you wanted to nail the tragedy of Jean Grey as the Dark Phoenix/host of the Phoenix Force, you could honestly take elements of Carrie. You could’ve had Jean’s parents see her as the work of the devil, then she gets transferred to Xavier’s school to train as a member of the X-Men. And when she comes in contact with the Phoenix Force, she and the Phoenix Force have a relationship similar to that of Peter Parker and the Venom symbiote: she and the Phoenix Force have this dialogue that tears at the essence of Jean and causes turmoil for her. Eventually Jean embraces the power of the Phoenix Force.
The tragedy element should come from sympathizing with Jean and making her own choice to embrace its power.
It would also give a nice and tragic secondary reason for her killing Scott first.
@@nobody2996 ooh didn't even think about that!
Martin Shanahan pretty cool idea man
Good job. I appreciate you acknowledging it wasn't all original, but that is a solid synopsis and backstory that I think would enhance the movie well. It could even easily be fit into 5 minutes or so of running time.
The one thing I always disagreed with....don't make Rogue the poster child for why you shouldn't have your powers taken away. She literally kills anyone she touches. She's the one person who probably should have her powers taken away. Her life would be miserable. It's not like Storm who can control the weather, Rogue freaking kills anyone she touches and cannot have any sort of human contact ever
I have that same history of Marvel book! $100 well spent. High five!
Sure the movie is bad but the best thing about it was Kelsey Grammer as Beast
He did such a good job!
Thought the same thing.
Ian McKellan’s Magneto was at its best here, too.
He was indeed a great Beast in these films
Perfectly timed with Disney's acquisition of Fox assets including Fantastic Four and the X-Men
While awesome, it saddens me we'll never see Stark, Richards and McCoy share a scene together. In a better parallel dimension they were part of Infinity War already
😭
@@alexsilva28 True. We might not see the Illuminati after all
1216Rockman Disney is slowly taking over the world. Then Walt will be unthawed and WW3 will begin. 😂
The Last Stand vs. The Last Jedi which is better?
Douglas 1 "Douglas, I like pointing over that way for some reason."
Douglas 2 "Woooaow!~"
I think Tamara's Dorothy impression is one of the best things I've ever seen on this show!
No…no…no….
I need 10 seasons of "jean-luc and gandalf"!
and a Reunion movie!
Just follow them both on Twitter? They're hilarious enough.
Nobody:
Channel Awesome: STAMPS
Wow
... Douglas
i've heard douglas more times in in 1 minute more than in my entire life XD
I honestly enjoyed watching the movie, magneto being super badass is a feast to the eye... But, while after the two first movies ended, I left the cinema wanting to read more x-men comics, this one didn't make me feel like that, it didn't manage to make me want more of the characters and the universe, which is why I find it to be so bellow the previous ones.
The Juggernaut's famous line was so famous, it was included in 2007's Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, with the GDI Juggernaut unit actually saying, "I'M THE JUGGERNAUT!" as one of its unit barks.
*_"I'm the Nostalgianaut and I remember it because you can't, BIEATCH!"_*
Halle Berry an her wig should have their own saga.
Ok, scratch that: I need Jean Luc & Gandalf to be real.
The guy who tried to cut his wings off was Archangel?
Yes or more precisely just angel
That is how unrecognizable he was