A Viewer Brought Me a "1959 Gibson Les Paul Burst"

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  • @Trog
    @Trog  Місяць тому +50

    I hope you enjoyed a look at this viewer's guitar!
    🟢My Website: www.troglysguitarshow.com
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    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri Місяць тому +6

      Well done Austin! What a treat that was.

    • @keithp1759
      @keithp1759 Місяць тому +4

      Great Job Trog! Who Owns? Also I was born in 59, in case you wanna do a spotlight on me😀

    • @edc3093
      @edc3093 5 днів тому

      Imo, the historic bursts serve a single purpose . . . To serve as a template for accurate reissued specimens. I was given for my 60th birthday a Gibson 2020 60th Anniversary Vintage Original Spec ("VOS") 1960 Les Paul Standard v3 Bourbon Burst light relic made by Murphy Lab with unpotted Custombucker pickups that have that PAF sound. The guitar is simply "amazing" in looks, feel, and sound/performance. The VOS guitars are made of the same materials and built to the same size and specifications even down to the use of hide glue and aniline dyes, and while they are still very expensive, they are not the absurd price of the original specimen. I don't particularly care about the provenance of a guitar and what famous guitarist played the particular guitar (it won't do any good because the talent won't rub off on me and the karma may not be somthing i would want - lol).

  • @filtheejoe
    @filtheejoe Місяць тому +1846

    Gibson made around 1,200 sunburst Les Pauls between 1958 and 1960. Sadly, only about 2,000 survived.

  • @ibji
    @ibji Місяць тому +401

    I've seen enough videos documenting and authenticating 'bursts to know for certain that I have no idea if it's original or not.

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen Місяць тому +3

      Know what you mean but you're not convinced.

    • @69spook
      @69spook Місяць тому +4

      It just doesn't look old to me ..... 🤔

    • @jenningsjennings2051
      @jenningsjennings2051 Місяць тому +8

      As a certified butcher I can 100% confirm this ain't a steak

    • @unclerudy9797
      @unclerudy9797 28 днів тому

      Not Trogly...He knows... LOL

  • @leviathan_is_me
    @leviathan_is_me Місяць тому +292

    I had to double take, lol. I thought the title said "A viewer BOUGHT me a Gibson Les Paul Burst"

    • @Jeremya74
      @Jeremya74 Місяць тому +28

      Lol..I still thought it said bought untill I read this comment and looked back at the title

    • @spankeyguitars8457
      @spankeyguitars8457 Місяць тому +4

      thats what I thought too...darn you Ai...making me think things that don't even exist.

    • @campbellblack2340
      @campbellblack2340 Місяць тому +1

      Same here

    • @69spook
      @69spook Місяць тому +1

      Mee too😂

    • @anthonyroach7974
      @anthonyroach7974 Місяць тому +1

      Yes me to 😂😂😂

  • @Jeremya74
    @Jeremya74 Місяць тому +193

    Its def mine..i was painting my gold and pink bathroom at the time it was stolen..id like it back

    • @crilf5830
      @crilf5830 Місяць тому +6

      Yes we shared in that work. I want 50%.

    • @Christian-ew4eg
      @Christian-ew4eg Місяць тому +3

      Lmao

    • @11calman
      @11calman Місяць тому +2

      Jeremya, look mate if you get it, I'll swap two sheep for it , One you can BBQ on the beach with your mate, The other one, if you can't get any women to the Beach BBQ, you can share among your mates, (Oh Yeah, Its Our summer here in New Zealand)

    • @John-vx7lt
      @John-vx7lt 29 днів тому

      That's too easy , lmao

    • @Chucky-hf6oe
      @Chucky-hf6oe 29 днів тому

      I lost a rare 1958 single cut 3/4 scale Junior in tobacco burst..still looking for it 😔

  • @MrMjp58
    @MrMjp58 Місяць тому +52

    I’m not especially interested in the vintage/authentic instrument world, but this video has been expertly put together and brilliantly narrated. Very enjoyable.

    • @Trog
      @Trog  Місяць тому +6

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Comp3630
    @Comp3630 Місяць тому +63

    Appreciate how you didn't over-hype this one.
    Sometimes people will start going crazy when reviewing bursts.

  • @Wargasm54
    @Wargasm54 Місяць тому +218

    I’ll trade you 3 Harley Benton’s, an Epiphone Jr that was touched by a guy that touched angus young , 4 rare guitar picks and a can of Dinty Moore beef stew for it?

    • @clarkbabin9799
      @clarkbabin9799 Місяць тому +13

      You forgot the partridge in a pear tree.

    • @Surge_LaChance
      @Surge_LaChance Місяць тому +1

      Is this Post 10?
      I didn't know you played guitar!

    • @bruceburns1525
      @bruceburns1525 Місяць тому +7

      Do you have authentication that it was actually touched by a guy that touched Angus Young? Too many people going around saying this when really, they have a guitar that was touched by a guy who touched Angus Young's personal chef.

    • @mertmunson1417
      @mertmunson1417 Місяць тому +3

      Two cans of Dinty and you got yourself a goddamn deal!!!

    • @allstopblue5717
      @allstopblue5717 Місяць тому +3

      If you scroll down enough you’ll probably find someone saying their $150 Harley Benton is better than this. Never fails with some of the HB owners.

  • @partycakes456
    @partycakes456 Місяць тому +38

    That was purchased by George McFly for his future son, Marty, to honor his good friend Calvin who rocked the house at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance in 1955. True story.

    • @paulketchupwitheverything767
      @paulketchupwitheverything767 Місяць тому +2

      Maybe uncle Joey had a hand in this too.

    • @thomasbowlin6787
      @thomasbowlin6787 Місяць тому +2

      Hilarious, almost fell off my chair when reading this comment, this is even funnier than the comment where they wrote 1200 were made sadly only 2000 survived, did not think that comment could have been beat but you did it freaking hilarious.

  • @musicauthority674
    @musicauthority674 Місяць тому +27

    Even though the neck has been replaced, this is a very nice specimen of a 1959 Les Paul burst. and the small amount of work that has been done on it, has been professionally done. pretty good for a 63 old surviving specimen.

    • @donerskine7935
      @donerskine7935 Місяць тому +2

      The neck has been replaced, and the body replaced twice. Shows that the original owner really cared for the instrument. (Just kidding, don't sue me!)

  • @PlatinumBlack90038
    @PlatinumBlack90038 Місяць тому +13

    Gibson’s PAF-style humbucking pickups sound the best, both Clean and Dirty, and handle-EVERYTHING-from clean jazz to crunchy rock to crushing hard rock to the heaviest of heavy metal and beyond... The ‘Whole Lotta Love’ main riff only sounds right when played through these pickups with the TREBLE/BRIDGE pickup selected and engaged. I’m super impressed with the clarity and how you can hear every note; even in complex and tight chord voicings like on ‘Ten Years Gone’ by Led Zeppelin. Well done, Austin! 🔊💎🤘🏻

    • @philmanson2991
      @philmanson2991 Місяць тому +12

      Page played a '59 TELECASTER given to him by Jeff Beck on "Whole Lotta Love."

    • @chillpillology
      @chillpillology Місяць тому +1

      @@philmanson2991😂😂😂😂😂 always question those who sound the most over confident

    • @philmanson2991
      @philmanson2991 Місяць тому +7

      @@chillpillology I didn't question. I provided a fact.

    • @markn4526
      @markn4526 Місяць тому +4

      Since the pickups were brought up. I must say, they're really hot for '59 PAF's. They'd be hot even for '60 PAF's. For me, that raises a question. But who knows, maybe someone didn't want any leftover wire on the spool when they were winding them on that day.

    • @billlittle4247
      @billlittle4247 28 днів тому

      News flash- Page played his brown telecaster on Ten Years Gone

  • @AlexVonCrank
    @AlexVonCrank Місяць тому +11

    That middle position has that classic, beautiful LP chime to it!

  • @brandonc2859
    @brandonc2859 Місяць тому +87

    It's a Max, the ad in the LA times in the early 90s along with the neck should tell you it is a replica of the caliber of Slash's.

    • @lovesgibson
      @lovesgibson Місяць тому +11

      Makes sense. The top wood grain doesn’t look similar to any of the actual original burst tops.

    • @darkvillin
      @darkvillin Місяць тому +7

      Interesting plot twist kind of theory.

    • @jubei7259
      @jubei7259 Місяць тому +6

      Max's LP's are so good they're worth nearly as much as the originals now (some people say they're even better lol)

    • @lovesgibson
      @lovesgibson Місяць тому +15

      @@jubei7259 idkkk, I’m not sure if it was the pickups, or Trogly’s amp or recording setup… but the tone on this guitar really didn’t blow me away like the sound on other original Bursts I’ve seen.
      Didn’t seem to have that classic honky, crisp clarity, velvety kind of tone that original bursts have

    • @j.schaefer5622
      @j.schaefer5622 Місяць тому +1

      If a story is too good to be true…something is fishy about this Guitar. It tries so hard to be a 59. Maybe its a Max or a Derrig with some original Parts from an SG or something. Max used Fingerboards from salvaged SGs.

  • @rodennis418
    @rodennis418 Місяць тому +31

    I was looking at the neck pickup cavity. Wild how clean/consistent that looks if the neck has been out.
    (i'm no pro...just thought that would be an obvious area of change)

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen Місяць тому +2

      That's a giveaway. Fake guitar.

    • @69spook
      @69spook Місяць тому +5

      It looked very clean for for 65 years of grime. I'm 67, so I'd expect it to look a bit like the inside of my mouth 😂

    • @AMBlues
      @AMBlues Місяць тому +1

      @rodennis418 I was thinking the same thing.

    • @highdb1
      @highdb1 Місяць тому +1

      To me a non-expert, the neck tenon looked shorter than others I’ve seen pictures of.

  • @gordonanderson3111
    @gordonanderson3111 Місяць тому +10

    The wear below the pickguard indicates a player, a serious player, that used their thumb to pick and rested the fingers on the body - like the great Wes Montgomery. A quick googlin' of him shows lots of pics with his custom Gibson L-5 and an ES-175 yet no indication he ever played a Les Paul like this one.
    Looks totally real to me - working at a shop in 1999 I saw a Gibson reissue 'burst when they were so exactly the same - in the rout under the bridge pickup it had something like 'CLASSIC AAA' stamped deep into the wood under the finish, to show it was not a real '59 or '60.

    • @chrisl5156
      @chrisl5156 Місяць тому +2

      Thanks for the explanation of that wear area. I was trying to figure out what sort of playing style would lead to such wear but the thumb playing makes perfect sense.

    • @dand1585
      @dand1585 24 дні тому

      Was also thinking the same. If it was played as hard as it looks, respraying the neck before values went crazy isn’t impossible. These were still under or around $10k in the 80’s, so 25 years of grinding is going to damage the neck’s finish. It could also have cracked/started to peel and made it difficult to play, as well

  • @PaulLGuitar007
    @PaulLGuitar007 Місяць тому +27

    Right at 12:26 in the video It looks like you can see the shadow of the original serial #. A wonderful guitar!!!

    • @lcc8394
      @lcc8394 Місяць тому +2

      yeah but behind the new 9 is a faint 2 @ 12:17

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing Місяць тому +6

    I am 77 and had a gold top with soap bars was about a year or two older. You described the neck shape the way I would describe that gold top. It was just one size thinner than the thickest documented for that time. As you know it was a guideline not an exact spec. In the 80's I got a Xerox of the two thickest necks. I had a Fender clone made from a sketch by Leo in 1952 that he had in mind for 53 as the next Fender. It has a Fender Jazz Master body but without the offset. Being a Gibson guy I had the all maple Fender style bolt on neck made with a 24.75 scale and with the shape of the gold top, my favorite neck.

  • @paulsadoff3661
    @paulsadoff3661 Місяць тому +67

    I had # 9 1208 I bought it in 1982 for $ 7,500. I sold it in 1989 for $ 7,500. I guess that was a goof.........

    • @DougCanney1
      @DougCanney1 Місяць тому +5

      I was on the road with my band in 1988 in Baltimore. A dude brought a early 80's V and a 59 Burst to our room to try and sell us. He said they was his grandaddy's and he wanted to sell them. I don't know if they were stolen but he wanted $400 bucks for the burst and $200 for the V. I didn't have the knowledge I do now about bursts, but I knew Gibsons and I knew it was worth something, I offered him 200 and he declined. I was playing suped up Fenders and thinking Les Pauls were dated so it wasn't a big loss at the time. I'm quite sure it would be worth a cool price today.

    • @curtisprice9806
      @curtisprice9806 Місяць тому +3

      I HEAR YOU! SERENITY NOW...I COUNT MY BLESSINGS! I HAD A '57 GOLD TOP I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I HAD...I WAS TOLD IT WAS A REISSUE IN 1982 AND I WAS A TEENAGER. I WAS TOLD IT WAS A '70 REISSUE BUT NOT! GOD BLESS YOU

    • @jamesadamgleason9471
      @jamesadamgleason9471 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@DougCanney1 600 bucks to half a mill easy

    • @DougCanney1
      @DougCanney1 Місяць тому +48

      @jamesadamgleason9471 oh I'm aware of how dumb I was, I've owned a piece of two music stores in my life and I authenticate Les Paul's for people now. I had a lady come into my store a couple years ago with a 1960 Les Paul burst. Her husband had gotten it used a couple years before he went to Vietnam, played in a band when he got back and then never played it again. He had passed away 8 years before that and she was just now getting around to selling it. She asked me if it was worth 1,500 bucks, as I was looking at it she actually lowered the price. I took it all apart and looked at it, it was absolutely stock, without much wear at all. I told her it was worth about $65,000, and I gave her two names to call. She cried right in my store and hugged me. The guy I was in business with at the time told me I should have offered her $1,200, telling you what a prick he was will take a whole other thread. I just don't roll like that.

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri Місяць тому

      Do you have any pics of 9 1208? If so, send them to Austin (Trogly) for all to see!

  • @martinfrog768
    @martinfrog768 Місяць тому +3

    Thanks for diving in deep on this beautiful guitar ... the neck finish makes me wonder if the original owner did what many Gibson mandolin players did in the Fifties and Sixties which is essentially sanding the finish off the back where the hand contacts it till it has a satin feel when playing ...

  • @Guinn355Fan
    @Guinn355Fan Місяць тому +62

    I hope some of you have seen Kirk Hammett’s collection vid he did with Gibson from the other day, WOW.

    • @Zoso981
      @Zoso981 Місяць тому +22

      Yeah, great collection. But Hammett sure is a little weirdo.

    • @thesmokinggun8674
      @thesmokinggun8674 Місяць тому +15

      lol that’s dudes as odd as a 3 dollar bil

    • @intoit1074
      @intoit1074 Місяць тому +8

      I think there’s something cognitively happening with Kirk’s brain. He repeats himself a lot and it seems tough for him to get sentences or thoughts out. We’ve all seen him tell those stories a million times at this point about Greeny

    • @StringTension
      @StringTension Місяць тому +8

      @@Zoso981 I think it important to point out here, most musicians are..

    • @allstopblue5717
      @allstopblue5717 Місяць тому +4

      @@StringTensionnah, not like Kirk. Something is happening there mentally

  • @hbohm1996
    @hbohm1996 Місяць тому +20

    Don’t care if it’s original or not, love Trogly and always good viewing. Peace and love from Australia

  • @emmettmarrujo5075
    @emmettmarrujo5075 Місяць тому +113

    For Sale, 1959 Gibson Les Paul all original and untouched. All original parts. Except, replaced tuners, pickups, pots, knobs, bridge, tailpiece, pickup rings, fingerboard, inlays, frets, pickguard, neck and body, refinished optherwise as shipped from factory in 1959.. guitar was once in the same room as Jimmy Page, though not at the same time. $1,000,000,000. OBO

    • @JohnSmith-in1tt
      @JohnSmith-in1tt Місяць тому +8

      Lol, yup. I bet it's a conversion and not even a real burst either. The owner is smoking bananas

    • @MeStevely
      @MeStevely Місяць тому +7

      Just like Trigger's broom. UK viewers will know what I mean.

    • @MEGAMIGA
      @MEGAMIGA Місяць тому +1

      LOL!!!

    • @69spook
      @69spook Місяць тому

      😂👌

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen Місяць тому +1

      It's a major fake

  • @clarkbabin9799
    @clarkbabin9799 Місяць тому +8

    I love the way that one has aged . Lets see Murphy Labs recreate this one. That is a peculiar area to have wear there near the neck below the pickguard. Usually its either nearer to the bridge pickup ot below it. Ive only ever seen one guitar with similar wear near the neck. It was fron the owner / player neck bending placing the hand near the horn rather around the area the toggle switch is. It wasnt as worn as this one but similar type of wear.

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen Місяць тому +1

      Really? It's fake.

    • @clarkbabin9799
      @clarkbabin9799 Місяць тому +1

      @ChrisShortyAllen nothing fake there.

    • @filtheejoe
      @filtheejoe Місяць тому

      @@ChrisShortyAllen Not a fake, but not a Burst. Likely a converted 1957 Gold Top. Serial number was modified.

  • @ak47dragunov
    @ak47dragunov Місяць тому +48

    I'd be the first guy to scoff at the "magic of PAF's" or whatever, but that thing sounds mean as hell. Great clarity on all strings even with a ton of gain

    • @mystiquesquared
      @mystiquesquared Місяць тому +6

      For sure. When he hit that a chord of ten years gone it was perfect.

    • @stevenowen82
      @stevenowen82 Місяць тому +3

      The pickups def sound like PAFs

    • @jimmyjames4372
      @jimmyjames4372 Місяць тому

      No more than collectors choice 1 or 2 both have that sustain and vibe, In a blindfold test you would not know - when your told its 250k + oh yeah I hear the difference

  • @charlie0871
    @charlie0871 14 днів тому +2

    Perhaps the neck was replaced during (after) it's initial inspection at the factory due to a crack or defect in the finish that they noticed before boxing it up? I don't know if that type of QC process was par for the era, or not.

  • @DD-bu1kg
    @DD-bu1kg Місяць тому +49

    Even the Entwistle Burst proved to be a fake.

    • @blueeyedsoulman
      @blueeyedsoulman Місяць тому +21

      Imagine if they all were fake and it was just a gag ?

    • @69spook
      @69spook Місяць тому +1

      But it had been in the same room as Pete Townsend 😂

    • @danielschear556
      @danielschear556 Місяць тому

      ​@@69spookalso Pete Townshend

    • @blueeyedsoulman
      @blueeyedsoulman Місяць тому +2

      @@69spook The Rev Billy Gibbons blessed it. It is now completely weightless.

    • @7VSF-SR72-OA-X33
      @7VSF-SR72-OA-X33 Місяць тому

      @@blueeyedsoulman Pahaha

  • @allguitarplayersrule
    @allguitarplayersrule Місяць тому +31

    Its positivity a real 59 and not a max, ive painted them not his work. . Not a factory reneck its missing the crown headstock inlay used to id replacement. Painted over the serial number with clear , correct fonts. No sign fretboard was off probably just a local luthiers work. Repaint neck during a refret. Ct scan would prove the neck wasn't removed. Neck joint in the cut away looks like paint weathered off dard line , its the finish not the wood.

    • @GhostpainOG
      @GhostpainOG Місяць тому +6

      My barely knowledgeable ass seconds this opinion. :)

    • @ikefork2606
      @ikefork2606 Місяць тому +4

      The neck isn’t a Gibson. Look the fingerboard binding is all wrong, the side dots are wrong, the headstock lacks the asymmetrical “mustache” carve, heck….the mahogany isn’t even Honduran. 😮

    • @allguitarplayersrule
      @allguitarplayersrule Місяць тому

      100% wrong. I do this for a living. Painting since the 70s . ​@@ikefork2606

    • @new1old
      @new1old Місяць тому +2

      @@ikefork2606 yes you are correct! Good catch.
      The side dots on a real '59 are not black. They're actually brown tortoise shell

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri Місяць тому +2

      They are tortoise shell. Sometimes that is hard to see. Especially in a video

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 Місяць тому +13

    3:49, shouldn't the pickup/switch wiring through-passage be a round hole and not a routed channel?
    Beautiful Instrument, possibly over valued if not original!

    • @ybzoc1965
      @ybzoc1965 Місяць тому +3

      came here to say that

    • @lucwilson1
      @lucwilson1 Місяць тому +1

      For sure on 50s Customs since they were a solid chunk. Not a top. So had to be drilled from the jack plate opening. Don’t know what they did on Bursts though back then. Someone will know.

    • @GhostpainOG
      @GhostpainOG Місяць тому +3

      Any solid mahogany LP regardless of era will have the round channel. It's a function of the drill bit they had to use to get to the switch cavity from the control cavity for solid mahogany bodies. For a maple top, the channel was made with a router bit, hence the squared shape. Then the top was glued on.
      All bursts are maple tops. There were maple topped Goldtops that were later refinned to be bursts once bursts became more desirable. I imagine that many other solid top of the day was refinned as a burst, hence the higher than production numbers of bursts "found".

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 Місяць тому

      @@GhostpainOG You are indeed correct, I just checked my Gibson Les Paul, and Yes, it is a channel route for the wiring passage.
      Interestingly though, I have a newer 1954 Goldtop reissue built by the Tokai Custom Shop in Japan, on that guitar the wiring passage from the control cavity to the selector switch route is a single 5/8 bore hole originating at the output jack passage!
      I can't stress enough the high quality of the Tokai Custom Shop guitars, same specifications of a Gibson Custom Shop instrument at a little more than half the price!

  • @prajnachan333
    @prajnachan333 Місяць тому +3

    John Sebastian owned one of the first 1959 Les Paul's. A friend bragged about the sound of his guitar, so they compared them. After his friends guitar, John plugged his '59 in, and his friend said, "Oh."
    He went on to use it on many Lovin' Spoonful hits. (!)

  • @hansblooeyribbon4207
    @hansblooeyribbon4207 Місяць тому +11

    Neck pocket shows no signs of being disturbed. If the neck had been replaced all of the fit & finish work in the neck pocket would be obvious.

    • @grantblackler457
      @grantblackler457 Місяць тому +3

      Agree - a black light over the tenon would have been useful. Jumping to a reneck, rather than a refin'd neck might be too far? Cavities are clean. I've seen plenty of dirt free/clean vintage cavities.

  • @Shhh...theMoon
    @Shhh...theMoon Місяць тому +1

    I'm curious about the large bare spot below the pick guard on the single cutaway bout of the guitar. Just what could cause that kind of wear and tear. It doesn't seem that it was caused by too aggressive picking action because it's to far up by the neck and is more horizontal than vertical ,as something you would expect from normal picking motion. Maybe it was from anchoring a sweaty ring finger to steady the picking hand for quick picking action. Just a thought.

    • @keithnihan9025
      @keithnihan9025 Місяць тому +1

      When you see stevie ray Vaughan strum at the 12th fret youll know😮

  • @martinreid1740
    @martinreid1740 Місяць тому +5

    Its an interesting Les Paul I hope the owner enjoys playing it. I'm old enough to remember when these were just second hand guitars. I traded my no serial number 52, for a custom colour 57 strat ex Elvis Costello which I still have.

  • @MrScrofulous
    @MrScrofulous Місяць тому +10

    Beautiful coloured top with interesting texture in the maple.

    • @69spook
      @69spook Місяць тому

      Yes, but what does it taste like? 😂

  • @GoProMoFo-yj5wd
    @GoProMoFo-yj5wd Місяць тому +4

    That’s 💯 % authentic burst sound! Real bursts sound like they’re coming down with a cold in their voice. The best ones sound like a semi-hollow or hollow Gibson

  • @fancykarlmarx
    @fancykarlmarx Місяць тому +2

    Don’t burst usually have a line down the middle where the two pieces of wood meet?

  • @ArchieOnEarth
    @ArchieOnEarth Місяць тому +4

    Thank you, Austin, for sharing this with us. Not only the guitar, but also your new journey through legendary territory

  • @jwd1112
    @jwd1112 Місяць тому +2

    Austin, happy for you that you got to review this guitar!
    This video made me smile… it’s so cool to see a burst up close, even if it is just on UA-cam 😄

  • @ibisrox1
    @ibisrox1 Місяць тому +4

    Backside original pickguards should have a tool marks as slightly visible parallel lines along the entire guard

  • @dphotos007
    @dphotos007 6 днів тому +1

    It looks original to me except what was noted. I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe same color I bought used in 1976 along with a Fender Deluxe Reverb for $800. I was taking lessons at a guitar store in Northridge, CA. I had ordered a white Fender Mustang. About 3 months in the guitar still did not come in and I saw the used sunburst Gibson for sale in the store and I cancelled my order and bought my guitar. The serial number checks out to the guitar was made in 1973. It plays very well. I tend to play more surf music so I play my Stratocaster more often. I would like a Jassmaster so who knows my might sell my Gibson or trade it for a Jazzmaster.

  • @heavybrett-al4082
    @heavybrett-al4082 Місяць тому +9

    That top has some real character.

  • @audiomsg
    @audiomsg Місяць тому +4

    The PAFs also have the L shaped tooling marks on the feet where the screws pass through. Very important

    • @johnsmith-bk4ps
      @johnsmith-bk4ps Місяць тому

      He missed a lot of tells, has no business tearing one apart

  • @mjeh1
    @mjeh1 Місяць тому +40

    That may well be the best sounding guitar you've ever had on your show.

    • @northernthrifter8817
      @northernthrifter8817 Місяць тому +11

      Really I thought it sounded poor. Looks nice but close your eyes and listen to sound samples again.

    • @SubxZeroGamer
      @SubxZeroGamer Місяць тому +15

      I actually laughed out loud when he started playing because they all sound the same lol

    • @mjeh1
      @mjeh1 Місяць тому +2

      @SubxZeroGamer I couldn't disagree more.

    • @lucwilson1
      @lucwilson1 Місяць тому +2

      Bridge was a bit of a let down. The neck though sounded great.

    • @larrydj549
      @larrydj549 Місяць тому +1

      I have to agree. If not, he really dialed in the sound. Sounds huge. And chimey. Even with high gain.

  •  Місяць тому +3

    My brother would retell the story about going into a pawnshop in Los Angeles in 1971. And on the wall were two what would come to be known as "bursts" with $350.00 & $400.00 price tags. He played guitar but preferred acoustic over electric. "If only i knew then what i know now" he'd say.

    • @salimel4835
      @salimel4835 28 днів тому

      350 dollars in 1971 is equivalent to approximately 2727$ nowadays. But still nothing compared to what they cost now 😅

  • @Winstonrodney6989
    @Winstonrodney6989 Місяць тому +12

    Absolutely love that top!

  • @marquitust2874
    @marquitust2874 Місяць тому +4

    Wow you got the guts to take it apart, a lot of people wouldn't dare to do that. This will be a very good one. Burst or not still looks very good, love that top.

  • @viper2148
    @viper2148 24 дні тому +1

    @14:47 - 19:19 You outdid yourself, Trogly. Ya' did the ol' '59 proud.

  • @joerectifier
    @joerectifier Місяць тому +6

    It’s a gorgeous guitar - I have never played one so I don’t know the aura or the sound. I’m sure there is something to how good these vintage ‘59s sound. I also believe there is a subjectivity to it. I would love to try one but under no circumstance would I be able to afford one. I have a few guitars that are under $3k that, to my ear, leave nothing to be desired for my taste and I use one pedal and the volume knob. I don’t take those guitars out of the house as I have a few ~$1k battle tested tools that sound as great as I can imagine and get the job done. Maybe I’m just not that discriminating. 😂

  • @VN9001
    @VN9001 Місяць тому +3

    The sound of that LP is astounding. Why would there not be any binding bleed on this '59? (genuine question here. I have a CS '58 (R8) and got binding bleed on both the neck and body within 1 month. Hate it.

    • @Redrum046
      @Redrum046 Місяць тому +1

      Bleed fades with time, I love it.

  • @chuckpeterson552
    @chuckpeterson552 24 дні тому +3

    You need to look at the necks binding markers with a flash light, they must be tortoise! If not, the neck was replaced??? 😊
    I love your shows.!!❤❤😊

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 Місяць тому +2

    No Pot Date Codes or closeup video of the control cavity?
    I think it appears to be a great instrument, just not one from the 1950s (IMHO).
    The neck tenon doesn't look right and the square/routed wiring passage are both suspect.
    That said, I'd still love to own it. Many times Les Paul style guitars are fitted with original vintage '50s pickups, wiring and hardware, this could be one of those.

  • @tomfitzsimmons6535
    @tomfitzsimmons6535 Місяць тому +6

    What an amazing episode! I don't go throwing exclamation points around all willy-nilly, either.

  • @ToddHavel
    @ToddHavel Місяць тому +1

    Is the headstock at the correct angle for a 1950’s les Paul? Looks as if there is enough old finish under that respray to match the back, it looks like it’s trying to peek thru! Great non bias exam. Beautiful guitar.

  • @michaelaiello9525
    @michaelaiello9525 Місяць тому +5

    Your neck assessment .... based on the one "cracked" seam and the two other oversprayed seams, you think it was off. But there may still be a chance the one seam just had natural separation and the other two were blended in a neck refinish while attached, no?

  • @darrinpikarsky
    @darrinpikarsky Місяць тому +10

    It is definitely not Murphy lab. The pickups look legit the outer rim of the route just under the control cavity looks legit. Definitely an old refinish on the neck. Many original or era correct parts. The headstock doesn't look right to me or the logo position. It might just be the angle you were filming at. My final comment will be on the wood, specifically the maple top. Not a typical late '50s top. Could have also been renecked by Gibson or someone else. The neck has been off. I am not knocking the guitar at all considering how rare they are. If there was a water slide decal on there, possibly could be a Max or less of a chance, it's Derrig. No need to be hating by the a-holes in the peanut gallery. He's trying to legitimately help someone. I know. I appreciate your time in showing me this guitar. Thank you! Yes, I have about six Gibsons from the 1950s.

    • @lovesgibson
      @lovesgibson Місяць тому +1

      That’s what I thought, I’ve never seen actual original bursts with a top that looks like that… the colors also don’t look right

    • @RLM575
      @RLM575 Місяць тому +1

      About??

  • @aapddd
    @aapddd Місяць тому +4

    3:02 😱that made my heart pump !

  • @carnacthemagnificent2498
    @carnacthemagnificent2498 Місяць тому +3

    I don't know about the guitar but I once owned an original NOS ABR-1 from 1959 and I did a ton of research to authenticate it. The real ones have a mis-stamp on them on the right hand side, you can see a double line instead of just one, and it's there. Fakes and reproductions don't have it (though it's possible that one repo that Gibson did in recent years had it, not 100% sure). Believe it or not a close look at the saddles and the screws can tell you if it's legit too and date specifically to 1959, I can't see the screws (the shape of the bevel on the tops is the key) and the "tell" on the saddles is not showing in the vid (it's the mill marks on the flat side of the saddle). From what I can see though, it looks right.

  • @godbyone
    @godbyone Місяць тому +10

    Neck Cavity had the super rare. 4:02 Batman cave cut. Done by
    Diablo the batman. ( he was a super comic book fan )From Gibson. It’s his signature. Cutout

  • @mattdoliver1984
    @mattdoliver1984 25 днів тому +1

    I love the stories you hear about a grandkid finding late granddad's 59 Les Paul Burst that's been sat in the loft collecting dust for the past 50 years and they didn't know the value of it. It's crazy when you hear those.
    I think there's a similar story with a £3M Stratavarius Violin that was just sat in a loft collecting dust

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 22 дні тому

      One of my favorite such stories was a woman and her son were living in an old manor in England but were broke and the place was falling apart so they started searching through all the old stuff around the house (their family had lived there for like over 200 years) in hopes of finding something valuable enough to fix the roof. The son eventually pulled out an old book he had been using to prop up the broken leg on his bed. Inside he found a hand written note and on the back was some hand written music. It turned out to be a thank you letter of some sort written to their many greats grandfather by one JS Bach and the music was a short little unknown previously composition of his. Needless to say, they got their roof fixed.

  • @craigbrown9987
    @craigbrown9987 Місяць тому +5

    The "red eye" staining around the switch makes me think this one also sat in a shop window with its tag on. I wonder how many suffered the same fate?

  • @spudwashington3880
    @spudwashington3880 Місяць тому +2

    Both of the pickups on sounds so good on that one . I like the middle position sound a lot and that guitar. Good video

  • @crucifixgym
    @crucifixgym Місяць тому +3

    15:10 that thumb under the neck move is something you don’t see every day

  • @wsbill14224
    @wsbill14224 26 днів тому +3

    When I was in 4th grade the inside of my clarinet case looked exactly like the inside of that Les Paul case.

  • @MrMikepresley
    @MrMikepresley Місяць тому +2

    @3:21 where the pickguard screw location lines up evenly with the fret, is a good sign the guitar might be legit.

  • @zeppelinboys
    @zeppelinboys Місяць тому +5

    the prices of those Les Pauls makes me glad I'm an SG man. idk what the early 60s SGs go for but i would guess much, much less than a quarter of a million dollars(!). the Les Paul is a fine guitar and all but I don't get why the SG doesn't get as much love.

    • @TUUK2006
      @TUUK2006 Місяць тому

      I don't get why ANYONE thinks that the age of a guitar means a god damn thing. If you're into that, then you're a collector, not a player. There was no CNC back then. It was mostly hand made and if you wanted a good guitar, you had to be lucky enough to get it through the hands of half a dozen people who were great at what they did. Most didn't. There's a lot of utter crap out there going for stupid money for no reason other than how old it is. It's insane!

  • @WaZaaap6
    @WaZaaap6 Місяць тому +3

    Having the Burst i think it is an absolute MUST to pay for a Proper authentication to have appropriate documentation along with the instrument. SPECIALLY if one has wonderful Top like this one has!:)))))
    Because "Bursts" with more beautiful tops can have Insane difference in its price As well as how Guitar is getting its unique name)))) (and getting into "Magazines" about Bursts😊)

  • @aliensporebomb
    @aliensporebomb 20 днів тому +1

    Just thinking out loud - it's possible this had a neck reset at some point in the past after it had suffered some damage and needed repair or possible a new neck at some point. But it would be interesting to see if Gibson has any record of this guitar at all.

  • @badtonestudio
    @badtonestudio Місяць тому +5

    How do you get a wear mark like that on the front below pick guard???

    • @mchlwilson1
      @mchlwilson1 Місяць тому +1

      Major red flag for me.

    • @GhostpainOG
      @GhostpainOG Місяць тому

      Strum stupidly hard up near over the neck pup. I'm surprised the pup finish, pickup ring and pickguard aren't showing more wear, honestly.

    • @MyMotherTheCar
      @MyMotherTheCar Місяць тому +5

      Some fingerstyle players rest their middle finger on the body.

    • @PaulCooksStuff
      @PaulCooksStuff Місяць тому

      ​@@GhostpainOGbut the pickguard sits higher than the body. You'd almost have to be strumming upside down to wear there.

    • @GhostpainOG
      @GhostpainOG Місяць тому +1

      @@PaulCooksStuff I realized in another post that I was picturing the pickguard off. There's a bit in the video where you can see what I mean.

  • @Hanover_Fist
    @Hanover_Fist Місяць тому +3

    Very nice vid. The tone and sustain seem to be right on!!! Please update us with any new info about this special example...Thanks.

  • @eddiejr540
    @eddiejr540 Місяць тому +10

    Well there you have it folks…1959 P.A.F pickups…and they sound…..like humbucker pickups🫤

    • @GlynOC
      @GlynOC 7 днів тому +1

      As I read once - "Long tenon, short tenon, once the drummer comes in, who knows??"

    • @eddiejr540
      @eddiejr540 7 днів тому

      @ …hahahahahaha

  • @gayrambo4529
    @gayrambo4529 Місяць тому +3

    Steve Soest is a good guy. Did a bunch of business with him and he's a straight shooter.

  • @brianintexas1108
    @brianintexas1108 Місяць тому

    Question: Why is the Gibson logo on the head stock gold? Shouldn't it be M.O.P? or pearloid? Second question: do you think the original pickups could have been removed and reinstalled backwards given that the rhythm pickup is hotter than the bridge? Thanks

  • @ethanhitchcock5431
    @ethanhitchcock5431 Місяць тому +5

    What a great finish , love the bikini lines under the poker chip etc... , the mixture of Iced Tea w/Lemon + Green , very interesting , I've never held a real 59' in my hands nor spied one with me peeps , so thank Trogly for a video with a beauty full specimen , Thanks Trog !

  • @tonyfafoglia2927
    @tonyfafoglia2927 Місяць тому +2

    Very interesting video and cool guitar. Thanjks for demoing it with a clean tone.

  • @dannythemedic
    @dannythemedic Місяць тому +5

    is there an ANTI-Murphy lab where they fix the old worn out guitars to like new?

  • @prajnachan333
    @prajnachan333 Місяць тому +1

    Nice playing, bro. And very thorough documenting of that beautiful instrument. Made 2 years after I was born. So, of course, it's excellent!

  • @michaelmoore7975
    @michaelmoore7975 Місяць тому +5

    Stopped @3:50
    Didn't you say the area routed out for the wires was square, then it was CNC'd before putting the maple top on?
    And they would drill a round straight hole before CNC was a thing?
    If true, then I say this guitar is modern before watching the rest.
    Edit coming.

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 Місяць тому +1

      Edit: Stopped @10:18 Yes it does.

    • @stephenmarsh3986
      @stephenmarsh3986 Місяць тому +1

      He did say that recently. I spotted that too and was surprised it wasn't mentioned. 🖖

    • @kennymac58
      @kennymac58 Місяць тому +2

      No, a router bit leaves a square bottom. This is done on the mahogany before the cap is glued on. A one piece mahogany body like the Special has a round wire channel.

    • @Trog
      @Trog  Місяць тому +3

      That's certainly true when talking about norlin era routes, but looking a little deeper for 50s, it seems things were different back then based on a few google photos

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 Місяць тому

      @@Trog Straight from the man.
      Thanx for the info, always learning from The Trog.

  • @Captain_Yata
    @Captain_Yata Місяць тому +1

    Two videos in a row, you've found Standards that I really like. Quite the accomplishment :)

  • @RandalSmith
    @RandalSmith Місяць тому +8

    Autumnburst. I like it.

  • @marcarturi2137
    @marcarturi2137 7 днів тому +1

    Authentic or not, that tone made tear up! So beautiful!

  • @rindred
    @rindred Місяць тому +3

    I don't know if it's a "real burst" but man, it sings on Ten Years Gone.

  • @PageMarker1
    @PageMarker1 Місяць тому +2

    Wow, Trogly! You did a relatively thorough inspection. Haven't seen a video of yours in a while now.
    Your playing has certainly improved, and it looks like you've lost a little weight.
    Dan Erlewine might be a reputable source as to this Beauty's Provenance.
    All the Best to you, you warmhearted Gibson Guitar Nerd Connoisseur!

  • @ferox965
    @ferox965 Місяць тому +3

    That sounds great. Way brighter than my 2001.

  • @50Something
    @50Something Місяць тому +1

    Beautiful specimen but a I'm not sure the neck has been off due to the appearance of the neck cavity. It has been refinished and repaired for sure!

  • @sdingeswho
    @sdingeswho Місяць тому +5

    It all gets back to that strange, large wear-mark between the upper end of the pick guard and the cutaway. That’s evidence of someone with a unique playing style, to have heavy wear in that particular location.
    I think the one commenter may be on to something with the idea that the player may have been holding it there as part of doing some neck-bending. I think that’s where I usually hold my Peavey T-60 if I decide to (carefully) imitate a whammy-bar effect (it doesn’t have one - it’s bone-stock).
    I don’t care if it’s completely original (what car guys would call “matching numbers”) - it’s a beautiful-sounding guitar that is at least “period correct”, even if it’s basically a high-end parts-guitar. 👍

    • @paulketchupwitheverything767
      @paulketchupwitheverything767 Місяць тому

      Peavey T-60s are cool guitars, even if a bit blessed with the ounces.

    • @danielschear556
      @danielschear556 Місяць тому +3

      I think this may have been the personal Les Paul Std played by Doctor Miguelito Loveless in the mid-late 1960s CBS-TV series "The Wild Wild West." That would explain the strange wear mark under the pickguard from a metaphysical standpoint.

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen Місяць тому +1

      That's from a dog attack.

  • @abbeyparker
    @abbeyparker Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for this cause Its the first time I got the opportunity to look inside a real burst. Im curious how do you compare it with a Murphy lab ?

  • @justingarzamusic
    @justingarzamusic Місяць тому +7

    2:34 it was actually mine in a past life, you can just send it to me if you want. the pink paint was from me painting my 58’ shell pink coupe deville and the yellow/gold was actually similarly from a ‘77 camaro that had this weird thing happen to it where the radio would just change stations. thought it was something speaking to me but it could’ve been my wife barb

  • @waterman3230
    @waterman3230 19 днів тому

    Very cool. What is the purpose of the black light? Thanks

  • @mboyer68
    @mboyer68 Місяць тому +3

    65 years old, that's amazing.

  • @michaelbond6186
    @michaelbond6186 Місяць тому +1

    My two cents, it's a parts Les Paul that was assembled in Southern California. The guitar body started life as a 57 Les Paul Gold Top. The current neck is a replacement, the serial number make for the 59 Les Paul Burst identification. The kicker are the vintage Gibson parts, you can almost believe that's it's a 59. Like the tone from the guitar, it sounds better than Mike Campbell's Burst.

    • @vonroretz3307
      @vonroretz3307 Місяць тому

      Except.. for that red eye round the toggle switch.

  • @ousley421
    @ousley421 Місяць тому +3

    Massive sounding pups, and the top really moves

  • @dangamber5707
    @dangamber5707 Місяць тому +2

    Great video. Love that you explain everything and then you rock it out!

  • @paulrenevos
    @paulrenevos Місяць тому +14

    those old pafs are so much clearer than modern Gibson pickups

    • @ArchieOnEarth
      @ArchieOnEarth Місяць тому +3

      I always wondered if the old PAFs sounded like that new, or did they have to age into that sound.

    • @jamesemerson4102
      @jamesemerson4102 Місяць тому +1

      @@ArchieOnEarth If you get something like Tom Holmes PAF replicas, they do have that sound immediately. It's also the ageing and the guitar itself though. Part of the magic is that for one, they were unpotted. This gives you a more immediate snap on the attack. Most modern humbuckers are wax potted to get rid of any possible squealing or unwanted noise. You can still get unpotted pickups today from builders but most manufacturers make them wax potted 2) they are very low wind and this allows for way more clarity. They are quieter, but because they have less gain, they are much clearer because of it. Less bottom end so less whoofiness. A real awesome PAF should sound almost like a tele pickup but on steroids. Mind you it was also about the way they wound the pickups and the magnets that were used. Tom Holmes built amazing PAF replicas some of the best in the world and he used alnico 2 magnet in the bridge instead of 4 or something else for example. Even the covers matter - Tom Holmes uses very thin covers

    • @jamesemerson4102
      @jamesemerson4102 Місяць тому +1

      Part of that is the very low amount of winds, and also the magnets that were used are important. Most Modern humbuckers have much more winds around the bobbin and they're much louder but that carries with it Whoofiness and Mud and a very honky mid range. You lose the clarity and warmth and articulation. Check out something like the Lollar low wind Imperials if you want that early PAF sound, or if you find a good pickup builder, get them to build you some that are Unpotted and low wind. I recently had a set of Unpotted PAF style made for me by a pickup maker and they sound much more "vintage" to me than the wax potted ones I had before.

    • @paulrenevos
      @paulrenevos Місяць тому

      @@jamesemerson4102 funny you mention that. I exchanged my Gibson 498/490 from my Les Paul and replaced the. with Lollar imperials (low wind in the neck). It sounds so much better taut still not as clear as these pickups

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen Місяць тому

      They are fake

  • @lindthompson5622
    @lindthompson5622 Місяць тому +1

    At 18:30 is that the top gear theme or is it whatever Allman bros song they said they ripped off?

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri Місяць тому +1

      Yes, that is the song Jessica written mostly by the late great Richard "Dickey" Betts with the Allman Brothers band. One of my all time favorite songs! I believe Les Dudek was the co-guitarist on this song as Duane Allman had passed on to jam with Jimmy Hendrix in heaven. Interesting story about this song. Betts was inspired by his then young daughter, Jessica, crawling across the floor before she could walk. I personally knew the baby sitter of Jessica in Florida. She was married to a good friend of mine I grew up with. The Allman Brothers band have written some great music! Definitely check out the Live at the Fillmore East CD . Blue Sky and In Memory of Elizabeth Reed are another of my favorite Betts penned songs!

  • @Squall6575
    @Squall6575 Місяць тому +10

    Idk if its real, but it sounds great! The middle position is exactly how a burst should sound

  • @jaco_h5013
    @jaco_h5013 Місяць тому +2

    I would be tempted to swap the bridge and neck pickup around as the necks way hotter than the bridge

  • @GeorgeOzier-gr5zq
    @GeorgeOzier-gr5zq Місяць тому +3

    Someone loved that guitar for a long time.

  • @erneumann3136
    @erneumann3136 Місяць тому +2

    Good video. I bought a VOS R8 CSB a while ago. It makes me happy to look at it.

  • @cliverkay
    @cliverkay Місяць тому +6

    Few things worry me .. White Bobbins on an early serial number ? The chatter marks in the cavity are not strong enough . Second set of bridge post nuts , not original . Could be a conversion..

    • @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist
      @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist Місяць тому +1

      Doesn't matter somehow. Looks and Sound phenomenal outstanding!

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri Місяць тому +2

      White bobbin PAFs start showing up much earlier. Around the 9 06XX series.

    • @Geir63
      @Geir63 Місяць тому +1

      This was from Throbak in another tread. "So the story that HPI ran out of plastic for black bobbins makes sense. HPI was short on clear Tenite for molding black parts so they used the natural plastic with cream colorant added that Gibson started using for ‘55 P90 soapbar covers. That is how you got the cream bobbins."

  • @lances6512
    @lances6512 Місяць тому +1

    Sounds incredible, that bridge pickup is unbelievable. One in a million.

  • @pcar928fan
    @pcar928fan Місяць тому +3

    WOW! Not everyday you get to play a quarter million dollar guitar! What a beauty!