A Viewer Brought Me a "1959 Gibson Les Paul Burst"

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  • @Trog
    @Trog  2 місяці тому +55

    I hope you enjoyed a look at this viewer's guitar!
    🟢My Website: www.troglysguitarshow.com
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    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri 2 місяці тому +6

      Well done Austin! What a treat that was.

    • @keithp1759
      @keithp1759 2 місяці тому +4

      Great Job Trog! Who Owns? Also I was born in 59, in case you wanna do a spotlight on me😀

    • @edc3093
      @edc3093 Місяць тому

      Imo, the historic bursts serve a single purpose . . . To serve as a template for accurate reissued specimens. I was given for my 60th birthday a Gibson 2020 60th Anniversary Vintage Original Spec ("VOS") 1960 Les Paul Standard v3 Bourbon Burst light relic made by Murphy Lab with unpotted Custombucker pickups that have that PAF sound. The guitar is simply "amazing" in looks, feel, and sound/performance. The VOS guitars are made of the same materials and built to the same size and specifications even down to the use of hide glue and aniline dyes, and while they are still very expensive, they are not the absurd price of the original specimen. I don't particularly care about the provenance of a guitar and what famous guitarist played the particular guitar (it won't do any good because the talent won't rub off on me and the karma may not be somthing i would want - lol).

  • @filtheejoe
    @filtheejoe 2 місяці тому +2098

    Gibson made around 1,200 sunburst Les Pauls between 1958 and 1960. Sadly, only about 2,000 survived.

  • @leviathan_is_me
    @leviathan_is_me 2 місяці тому +353

    I had to double take, lol. I thought the title said "A viewer BOUGHT me a Gibson Les Paul Burst"

    • @Jeremya74
      @Jeremya74 2 місяці тому +32

      Lol..I still thought it said bought untill I read this comment and looked back at the title

    • @spankeyguitars8457
      @spankeyguitars8457 2 місяці тому +5

      thats what I thought too...darn you Ai...making me think things that don't even exist.

    • @campbellblack2340
      @campbellblack2340 2 місяці тому +2

      Same here

    • @69spook
      @69spook 2 місяці тому +2

      Mee too😂

    • @anthonyroach7974
      @anthonyroach7974 2 місяці тому +2

      Yes me to 😂😂😂

  • @ibji
    @ibji 2 місяці тому +453

    I've seen enough videos documenting and authenticating 'bursts to know for certain that I have no idea if it's original or not.

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen 2 місяці тому +3

      Know what you mean but you're not convinced.

    • @69spook
      @69spook 2 місяці тому +5

      It just doesn't look old to me ..... 🤔

    • @jenningsjennings2051
      @jenningsjennings2051 2 місяці тому +12

      As a certified butcher I can 100% confirm this ain't a steak

    • @unclerudy9797
      @unclerudy9797 Місяць тому

      Not Trogly...He knows... LOL

  • @Comp3630
    @Comp3630 2 місяці тому +72

    Appreciate how you didn't over-hype this one.
    Sometimes people will start going crazy when reviewing bursts.

  • @MrMjp58
    @MrMjp58 2 місяці тому +76

    I’m not especially interested in the vintage/authentic instrument world, but this video has been expertly put together and brilliantly narrated. Very enjoyable.

    • @Trog
      @Trog  2 місяці тому +7

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Jeremya74
    @Jeremya74 2 місяці тому +224

    Its def mine..i was painting my gold and pink bathroom at the time it was stolen..id like it back

    • @crilf5830
      @crilf5830 2 місяці тому +7

      Yes we shared in that work. I want 50%.

    • @Christian-ew4eg
      @Christian-ew4eg 2 місяці тому +3

      Lmao

    • @11calman
      @11calman 2 місяці тому +2

      Jeremya, look mate if you get it, I'll swap two sheep for it , One you can BBQ on the beach with your mate, The other one, if you can't get any women to the Beach BBQ, you can share among your mates, (Oh Yeah, Its Our summer here in New Zealand)

    • @John-vx7lt
      @John-vx7lt Місяць тому

      That's too easy , lmao

    • @Chucky-hf6oe
      @Chucky-hf6oe Місяць тому +1

      I lost a rare 1958 single cut 3/4 scale Junior in tobacco burst..still looking for it 😔

  • @musicauthority674
    @musicauthority674 2 місяці тому +32

    Even though the neck has been replaced, this is a very nice specimen of a 1959 Les Paul burst. and the small amount of work that has been done on it, has been professionally done. pretty good for a 63 old surviving specimen.

    • @donerskine7935
      @donerskine7935 2 місяці тому +2

      The neck has been replaced, and the body replaced twice. Shows that the original owner really cared for the instrument. (Just kidding, don't sue me!)

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri 3 дні тому +1

      Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

  • @partycakes456
    @partycakes456 2 місяці тому +50

    That was purchased by George McFly for his future son, Marty, to honor his good friend Calvin who rocked the house at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance in 1955. True story.

    • @paulketchupwitheverything767
      @paulketchupwitheverything767 2 місяці тому +2

      Maybe uncle Joey had a hand in this too.

    • @thomasbowlin6787
      @thomasbowlin6787 2 місяці тому +3

      Hilarious, almost fell off my chair when reading this comment, this is even funnier than the comment where they wrote 1200 were made sadly only 2000 survived, did not think that comment could have been beat but you did it freaking hilarious.

  • @Wargasm54
    @Wargasm54 2 місяці тому +245

    I’ll trade you 3 Harley Benton’s, an Epiphone Jr that was touched by a guy that touched angus young , 4 rare guitar picks and a can of Dinty Moore beef stew for it?

    • @clarkbabin9799
      @clarkbabin9799 2 місяці тому +14

      You forgot the partridge in a pear tree.

    • @Surge_LaChance
      @Surge_LaChance 2 місяці тому +1

      Is this Post 10?
      I didn't know you played guitar!

    • @bruceburns1525
      @bruceburns1525 2 місяці тому +10

      Do you have authentication that it was actually touched by a guy that touched Angus Young? Too many people going around saying this when really, they have a guitar that was touched by a guy who touched Angus Young's personal chef.

    • @mertmunson1417
      @mertmunson1417 2 місяці тому +4

      Two cans of Dinty and you got yourself a goddamn deal!!!

    • @allstopblue5717
      @allstopblue5717 2 місяці тому +3

      If you scroll down enough you’ll probably find someone saying their $150 Harley Benton is better than this. Never fails with some of the HB owners.

  • @gordonanderson3111
    @gordonanderson3111 2 місяці тому +15

    The wear below the pickguard indicates a player, a serious player, that used their thumb to pick and rested the fingers on the body - like the great Wes Montgomery. A quick googlin' of him shows lots of pics with his custom Gibson L-5 and an ES-175 yet no indication he ever played a Les Paul like this one.
    Looks totally real to me - working at a shop in 1999 I saw a Gibson reissue 'burst when they were so exactly the same - in the rout under the bridge pickup it had something like 'CLASSIC AAA' stamped deep into the wood under the finish, to show it was not a real '59 or '60.

    • @chrisl5156
      @chrisl5156 2 місяці тому +2

      Thanks for the explanation of that wear area. I was trying to figure out what sort of playing style would lead to such wear but the thumb playing makes perfect sense.

    • @dand1585
      @dand1585 Місяць тому +1

      Was also thinking the same. If it was played as hard as it looks, respraying the neck before values went crazy isn’t impossible. These were still under or around $10k in the 80’s, so 25 years of grinding is going to damage the neck’s finish. It could also have cracked/started to peel and made it difficult to play, as well

  • @rodennis418
    @rodennis418 2 місяці тому +35

    I was looking at the neck pickup cavity. Wild how clean/consistent that looks if the neck has been out.
    (i'm no pro...just thought that would be an obvious area of change)

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen 2 місяці тому +2

      That's a giveaway. Fake guitar.

    • @69spook
      @69spook 2 місяці тому +5

      It looked very clean for for 65 years of grime. I'm 67, so I'd expect it to look a bit like the inside of my mouth 😂

    • @AMBlues
      @AMBlues 2 місяці тому +1

      @rodennis418 I was thinking the same thing.

    • @highdb1
      @highdb1 2 місяці тому +2

      To me a non-expert, the neck tenon looked shorter than others I’ve seen pictures of.

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing 2 місяці тому +9

    I am 77 and had a gold top with soap bars was about a year or two older. You described the neck shape the way I would describe that gold top. It was just one size thinner than the thickest documented for that time. As you know it was a guideline not an exact spec. In the 80's I got a Xerox of the two thickest necks. I had a Fender clone made from a sketch by Leo in 1952 that he had in mind for 53 as the next Fender. It has a Fender Jazz Master body but without the offset. Being a Gibson guy I had the all maple Fender style bolt on neck made with a 24.75 scale and with the shape of the gold top, my favorite neck.

  • @brandonc2859
    @brandonc2859 2 місяці тому +90

    It's a Max, the ad in the LA times in the early 90s along with the neck should tell you it is a replica of the caliber of Slash's.

    • @lovesgibson
      @lovesgibson 2 місяці тому +12

      Makes sense. The top wood grain doesn’t look similar to any of the actual original burst tops.

    • @darkvillin
      @darkvillin 2 місяці тому +8

      Interesting plot twist kind of theory.

    • @jubei7259
      @jubei7259 2 місяці тому +7

      Max's LP's are so good they're worth nearly as much as the originals now (some people say they're even better lol)

    • @lovesgibson
      @lovesgibson 2 місяці тому +16

      @@jubei7259 idkkk, I’m not sure if it was the pickups, or Trogly’s amp or recording setup… but the tone on this guitar really didn’t blow me away like the sound on other original Bursts I’ve seen.
      Didn’t seem to have that classic honky, crisp clarity, velvety kind of tone that original bursts have

    • @j.schaefer5622
      @j.schaefer5622 2 місяці тому +4

      If a story is too good to be true…something is fishy about this Guitar. It tries so hard to be a 59. Maybe its a Max or a Derrig with some original Parts from an SG or something. Max used Fingerboards from salvaged SGs.

  • @OldManBadly
    @OldManBadly 7 днів тому +1

    My guess in this one is that the neck and headstock were replaced at some point, which may explain why the headstock decal logo thing wasn't correct originally. The neck itself has clearly be resprayed. I am thinking that they may have taken the fingerboard and inlays off of the old neck and put them on the new neck, while also doing the frets. It would be a lot of work to do that, but could possibly have been the result of say a headstock damage or snap. The back side of the neck looks much, much newer than the rest, and doesn't appear to show the same level of wear and tear as the rest of the guitar.
    My guess story is: guitar was bought and played maybe even toured for a good while, probably most of the 60s... somewhere along the line, the heckstock got damaged, and with the neck showing a lot of wear and the repair being difficult to do, the owner decided to put a new neck and headstock on the guitar, and had the luthier move over the fret board and inlays to the new neck. The neck was well done, the new frets in, etc... and it didn't feel the same anymore and the guy stopped playing it so much. So there is very little wear on the next compared to the rest of the guitar. Since then, it has been sold on and turned into a bit of a collectors piece. So the guitar continues to age but the neck isn't exactly correct so it isn't aging the same way.
    Nice guitar, most certainly historic in some way, but I am guessing very much on the low end of the scale for these things.

  • @PaulLGuitar007
    @PaulLGuitar007 2 місяці тому +27

    Right at 12:26 in the video It looks like you can see the shadow of the original serial #. A wonderful guitar!!!

    • @lcc8394
      @lcc8394 2 місяці тому +2

      yeah but behind the new 9 is a faint 2 @ 12:17

    • @5000rgb
      @5000rgb 5 днів тому

      At 4:36 you can see two screw holes near the strap button that look like a trapeze tailpiece was mounted there. I've heard of people converting other Les Pauls to bursts but it doesn't make sense that one would do all that work and not plug the holes. Also, the P-90 routs would have to be fixed. It still seems odd that I didn't hear him mention the holes.

  • @bradcarter5403
    @bradcarter5403 5 днів тому +1

    beautiful guitar. It's definitely a burst. The neck is odd, but a lot of Gibson Les Paul necks have been repaired. I agree the neck may have been refinished or even replaced all together. But the flame in it sort of gives it away as authentic. This particular flame almost looks like a plain top until you were moving it around and the flame stripes started to appear. Like a holographic card or something lol. No 2 bursts from 1958, 1959, or 1960 were the same. I would even go as far as saying no 2 Les Pauls from the 50s were the same lol. Even some of those gold tops have aged differently or even had a slightly different tint to the gold.. It's what makes Les Pauls from the 50s so special. But as for this one? It's a real deal burst. Maybe its had a neck replacement and its hard to tell who repaired it, but that's a burst body.. 100%. Nice video man! I enjoyed it

  • @hbohm1996
    @hbohm1996 2 місяці тому +24

    Don’t care if it’s original or not, love Trogly and always good viewing. Peace and love from Australia

  • @prajnachan333
    @prajnachan333 2 місяці тому +5

    John Sebastian owned one of the first 1959 Les Paul's. A friend bragged about the sound of his guitar, so they compared them. After his friends guitar, John plugged his '59 in, and his friend said, "Oh."
    He went on to use it on many Lovin' Spoonful hits. (!)

  • @AlexVonCrank
    @AlexVonCrank 2 місяці тому +13

    That middle position has that classic, beautiful LP chime to it!

  • @jwd1112
    @jwd1112 2 місяці тому +2

    Austin, happy for you that you got to review this guitar!
    This video made me smile… it’s so cool to see a burst up close, even if it is just on UA-cam 😄

  • @PlatinumBlack90038
    @PlatinumBlack90038 2 місяці тому +14

    Gibson’s PAF-style humbucking pickups sound the best, both Clean and Dirty, and handle-EVERYTHING-from clean jazz to crunchy rock to crushing hard rock to the heaviest of heavy metal and beyond... The ‘Whole Lotta Love’ main riff only sounds right when played through these pickups with the TREBLE/BRIDGE pickup selected and engaged. I’m super impressed with the clarity and how you can hear every note; even in complex and tight chord voicings like on ‘Ten Years Gone’ by Led Zeppelin. Well done, Austin! 🔊💎🤘🏻

    • @philmanson2991
      @philmanson2991 2 місяці тому +12

      Page played a '59 TELECASTER given to him by Jeff Beck on "Whole Lotta Love."

    • @chillpillology
      @chillpillology 2 місяці тому +1

      @@philmanson2991😂😂😂😂😂 always question those who sound the most over confident

    • @philmanson2991
      @philmanson2991 2 місяці тому +9

      @@chillpillology I didn't question. I provided a fact.

    • @markn4526
      @markn4526 2 місяці тому +4

      Since the pickups were brought up. I must say, they're really hot for '59 PAF's. They'd be hot even for '60 PAF's. For me, that raises a question. But who knows, maybe someone didn't want any leftover wire on the spool when they were winding them on that day.

    • @billlittle4247
      @billlittle4247 Місяць тому

      News flash- Page played his brown telecaster on Ten Years Gone

  • @heavybrett-al4082
    @heavybrett-al4082 2 місяці тому +10

    That top has some real character.

  • @GoProMoFo-yj5wd
    @GoProMoFo-yj5wd 2 місяці тому +4

    That’s 💯 % authentic burst sound! Real bursts sound like they’re coming down with a cold in their voice. The best ones sound like a semi-hollow or hollow Gibson

  • @clarkbabin9799
    @clarkbabin9799 2 місяці тому +8

    I love the way that one has aged . Lets see Murphy Labs recreate this one. That is a peculiar area to have wear there near the neck below the pickguard. Usually its either nearer to the bridge pickup ot below it. Ive only ever seen one guitar with similar wear near the neck. It was fron the owner / player neck bending placing the hand near the horn rather around the area the toggle switch is. It wasnt as worn as this one but similar type of wear.

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen 2 місяці тому +1

      Really? It's fake.

    • @clarkbabin9799
      @clarkbabin9799 2 місяці тому +1

      @ChrisShortyAllen nothing fake there.

    • @filtheejoe
      @filtheejoe 2 місяці тому

      @@ChrisShortyAllen Not a fake, but not a Burst. Likely a converted 1957 Gold Top. Serial number was modified.

  • @aapddd
    @aapddd 2 місяці тому +5

    3:02 😱that made my heart pump !

  • @paulsadoff3661
    @paulsadoff3661 2 місяці тому +73

    I had # 9 1208 I bought it in 1982 for $ 7,500. I sold it in 1989 for $ 7,500. I guess that was a goof.........

    • @DougCanney1
      @DougCanney1 2 місяці тому +7

      I was on the road with my band in 1988 in Baltimore. A dude brought a early 80's V and a 59 Burst to our room to try and sell us. He said they was his grandaddy's and he wanted to sell them. I don't know if they were stolen but he wanted $400 bucks for the burst and $200 for the V. I didn't have the knowledge I do now about bursts, but I knew Gibsons and I knew it was worth something, I offered him 200 and he declined. I was playing suped up Fenders and thinking Les Pauls were dated so it wasn't a big loss at the time. I'm quite sure it would be worth a cool price today.

    • @curtisprice9806
      @curtisprice9806 2 місяці тому +3

      I HEAR YOU! SERENITY NOW...I COUNT MY BLESSINGS! I HAD A '57 GOLD TOP I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I HAD...I WAS TOLD IT WAS A REISSUE IN 1982 AND I WAS A TEENAGER. I WAS TOLD IT WAS A '70 REISSUE BUT NOT! GOD BLESS YOU

    • @jamesadamgleason9471
      @jamesadamgleason9471 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@DougCanney1 600 bucks to half a mill easy

    • @DougCanney1
      @DougCanney1 2 місяці тому +62

      @jamesadamgleason9471 oh I'm aware of how dumb I was, I've owned a piece of two music stores in my life and I authenticate Les Paul's for people now. I had a lady come into my store a couple years ago with a 1960 Les Paul burst. Her husband had gotten it used a couple years before he went to Vietnam, played in a band when he got back and then never played it again. He had passed away 8 years before that and she was just now getting around to selling it. She asked me if it was worth 1,500 bucks, as I was looking at it she actually lowered the price. I took it all apart and looked at it, it was absolutely stock, without much wear at all. I told her it was worth about $65,000, and I gave her two names to call. She cried right in my store and hugged me. The guy I was in business with at the time told me I should have offered her $1,200, telling you what a prick he was will take a whole other thread. I just don't roll like that.

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri 2 місяці тому

      Do you have any pics of 9 1208? If so, send them to Austin (Trogly) for all to see!

  • @Jeff-li5ri
    @Jeff-li5ri 3 дні тому +1

    I'm leaning more towards a worn player neck that was refinished completely. The refinisher didn't have a silk screen and just used what Gibson had available at the time, decals. I see original finish under that over spray on the shoulders and in the heel area. Ink stamp serial number looks different than what Max or Derrig work.

  • @ArchieOnEarth
    @ArchieOnEarth 2 місяці тому +4

    Thank you, Austin, for sharing this with us. Not only the guitar, but also your new journey through legendary territory

  • @DD-bu1kg
    @DD-bu1kg 2 місяці тому +52

    Even the Entwistle Burst proved to be a fake.

    • @blueeyedsoulman
      @blueeyedsoulman 2 місяці тому +22

      Imagine if they all were fake and it was just a gag ?

    • @69spook
      @69spook 2 місяці тому +2

      But it had been in the same room as Pete Townsend 😂

    • @danielschear556
      @danielschear556 2 місяці тому

      ​@@69spookalso Pete Townshend

    • @blueeyedsoulman
      @blueeyedsoulman 2 місяці тому +2

      @@69spook The Rev Billy Gibbons blessed it. It is now completely weightless.

    • @7VSF-SR72-OA-X33
      @7VSF-SR72-OA-X33 2 місяці тому

      @@blueeyedsoulman Pahaha

  • @martinreid1740
    @martinreid1740 2 місяці тому +6

    Its an interesting Les Paul I hope the owner enjoys playing it. I'm old enough to remember when these were just second hand guitars. I traded my no serial number 52, for a custom colour 57 strat ex Elvis Costello which I still have.

  • @viper2148
    @viper2148 Місяць тому +1

    @14:47 - 19:19 You outdid yourself, Trogly. Ya' did the ol' '59 proud.

  • @ibisrox1
    @ibisrox1 2 місяці тому +4

    Backside original pickguards should have a tool marks as slightly visible parallel lines along the entire guard

  • @geet77777
    @geet77777 10 днів тому +1

    we really need the entire history of this guitar, im sure we can trace it all down.I really wanna know who did the work

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri 3 дні тому +1

      Me too. But the refinished neck work was done likely fifty years ago and whoever did it may have passed on. But we are hoping the luthier will chime in and let us all know!

  • @MrScrofulous
    @MrScrofulous 2 місяці тому +10

    Beautiful coloured top with interesting texture in the maple.

    • @69spook
      @69spook 2 місяці тому

      Yes, but what does it taste like? 😂

  • @Guinn355Fan
    @Guinn355Fan 2 місяці тому +63

    I hope some of you have seen Kirk Hammett’s collection vid he did with Gibson from the other day, WOW.

    • @Zoso981
      @Zoso981 2 місяці тому +23

      Yeah, great collection. But Hammett sure is a little weirdo.

    • @thesmokinggun8674
      @thesmokinggun8674 2 місяці тому +15

      lol that’s dudes as odd as a 3 dollar bil

    • @intoit1074
      @intoit1074 2 місяці тому +8

      I think there’s something cognitively happening with Kirk’s brain. He repeats himself a lot and it seems tough for him to get sentences or thoughts out. We’ve all seen him tell those stories a million times at this point about Greeny

    • @StringTension
      @StringTension 2 місяці тому +8

      @@Zoso981 I think it important to point out here, most musicians are..

    • @allstopblue5717
      @allstopblue5717 2 місяці тому +4

      @@StringTensionnah, not like Kirk. Something is happening there mentally

  • @audiomsg
    @audiomsg 2 місяці тому +4

    The PAFs also have the L shaped tooling marks on the feet where the screws pass through. Very important

    • @johnsmith-bk4ps
      @johnsmith-bk4ps 2 місяці тому

      He missed a lot of tells, has no business tearing one apart

  • @timstaffell
    @timstaffell 6 днів тому +1

    I thought the bridge posts should go directly into the wood?

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri 3 дні тому +2

      They do

    • @timstaffell
      @timstaffell 3 дні тому

      @@Jeff-li5ri Ah yeah, I missed the double thumb-wheels. Thought they were bushes..

  • @martinfrog768
    @martinfrog768 2 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for diving in deep on this beautiful guitar ... the neck finish makes me wonder if the original owner did what many Gibson mandolin players did in the Fifties and Sixties which is essentially sanding the finish off the back where the hand contacts it till it has a satin feel when playing ...

    • @ronjenkins6674
      @ronjenkins6674 7 днів тому +1

      My 1985 cardinal red flying V was done the same way, one of the previous owners sanded all the finish off the back of the neck. I like the feel myself since my favorite guitar, my Peavey first year Wolfgang and my SA-126 EVH Wolfgang are the same way, satin finished necks. I use tru-oil to clean them up and keep them slick feeling.

  • @charlie0871
    @charlie0871 Місяць тому +2

    Perhaps the neck was replaced during (after) it's initial inspection at the factory due to a crack or defect in the finish that they noticed before boxing it up? I don't know if that type of QC process was par for the era, or not.

  • @hansblooeyribbon4207
    @hansblooeyribbon4207 2 місяці тому +12

    Neck pocket shows no signs of being disturbed. If the neck had been replaced all of the fit & finish work in the neck pocket would be obvious.

    • @grantblackler457
      @grantblackler457 2 місяці тому +3

      Agree - a black light over the tenon would have been useful. Jumping to a reneck, rather than a refin'd neck might be too far? Cavities are clean. I've seen plenty of dirt free/clean vintage cavities.

  • @JonKorpi-fk7yo
    @JonKorpi-fk7yo 8 днів тому +1

    My gramps has a 59 burst and has been offered big money for it and he said it's being buried with him it's his baby and pride and joy I've played it once and he said that's enough gave me his 66 strat to play

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri 3 дні тому +1

      A 66 Strat is a great guitar! Gramps is cool. Make him proud!

  • @allguitarplayersrule
    @allguitarplayersrule 2 місяці тому +35

    Its positivity a real 59 and not a max, ive painted them not his work. . Not a factory reneck its missing the crown headstock inlay used to id replacement. Painted over the serial number with clear , correct fonts. No sign fretboard was off probably just a local luthiers work. Repaint neck during a refret. Ct scan would prove the neck wasn't removed. Neck joint in the cut away looks like paint weathered off dard line , its the finish not the wood.

    • @GhostpainOG
      @GhostpainOG 2 місяці тому +7

      My barely knowledgeable ass seconds this opinion. :)

    • @ikefork2606
      @ikefork2606 2 місяці тому +4

      The neck isn’t a Gibson. Look the fingerboard binding is all wrong, the side dots are wrong, the headstock lacks the asymmetrical “mustache” carve, heck….the mahogany isn’t even Honduran. 😮

    • @allguitarplayersrule
      @allguitarplayersrule 2 місяці тому

      100% wrong. I do this for a living. Painting since the 70s . ​@@ikefork2606

    • @new1old
      @new1old 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ikefork2606 yes you are correct! Good catch.
      The side dots on a real '59 are not black. They're actually brown tortoise shell

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri 2 місяці тому +2

      They are tortoise shell. Sometimes that is hard to see. Especially in a video

  • @Winstonrodney6989
    @Winstonrodney6989 2 місяці тому +12

    Absolutely love that top!

  • @chuckpeterson552
    @chuckpeterson552 Місяць тому +4

    You need to look at the necks binding markers with a flash light, they must be tortoise! If not, the neck was replaced??? 😊
    I love your shows.!!❤❤😊

  • @alexanderreichard9594
    @alexanderreichard9594 10 днів тому +1

    It's illegal to pick up a 59 burst and not play a Zeppelin riff, so I'm glad you got a few in for safety

  • @spudwashington3880
    @spudwashington3880 2 місяці тому +3

    Both of the pickups on sounds so good on that one . I like the middle position sound a lot and that guitar. Good video

  • @mjeh1
    @mjeh1 2 місяці тому +40

    That may well be the best sounding guitar you've ever had on your show.

    • @northernthrifter8817
      @northernthrifter8817 2 місяці тому +11

      Really I thought it sounded poor. Looks nice but close your eyes and listen to sound samples again.

    • @SubxZeroGamer
      @SubxZeroGamer 2 місяці тому +15

      I actually laughed out loud when he started playing because they all sound the same lol

    • @mjeh1
      @mjeh1 2 місяці тому +2

      @SubxZeroGamer I couldn't disagree more.

    • @LCW_01
      @LCW_01 2 місяці тому +2

      Bridge was a bit of a let down. The neck though sounded great.

    • @larrydj549
      @larrydj549 2 місяці тому +1

      I have to agree. If not, he really dialed in the sound. Sounds huge. And chimey. Even with high gain.

  • @tomfitzsimmons6535
    @tomfitzsimmons6535 2 місяці тому +6

    What an amazing episode! I don't go throwing exclamation points around all willy-nilly, either.

    • @lNllClK
      @lNllClK 2 місяці тому +2

      I do!

  • @mattdoliver1984
    @mattdoliver1984 Місяць тому +1

    I love the stories you hear about a grandkid finding late granddad's 59 Les Paul Burst that's been sat in the loft collecting dust for the past 50 years and they didn't know the value of it. It's crazy when you hear those.
    I think there's a similar story with a £3M Stratavarius Violin that was just sat in a loft collecting dust

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 Місяць тому

      One of my favorite such stories was a woman and her son were living in an old manor in England but were broke and the place was falling apart so they started searching through all the old stuff around the house (their family had lived there for like over 200 years) in hopes of finding something valuable enough to fix the roof. The son eventually pulled out an old book he had been using to prop up the broken leg on his bed. Inside he found a hand written note and on the back was some hand written music. It turned out to be a thank you letter of some sort written to their many greats grandfather by one JS Bach and the music was a short little unknown previously composition of his. Needless to say, they got their roof fixed.

  • @xFrostyDZN
    @xFrostyDZN 21 день тому +2

    Authentic or not, that is one of the most beautiful tops I have seen. No crazy AAAA flame, but nice figuring in both directions. Shimmers as you move it around. Really nice.

  • @marquitust2874
    @marquitust2874 2 місяці тому +4

    Wow you got the guts to take it apart, a lot of people wouldn't dare to do that. This will be a very good one. Burst or not still looks very good, love that top.

  • @marcarturi2137
    @marcarturi2137 Місяць тому +2

    Authentic or not, that tone made tear up! So beautiful!

  • @ak47dragunov
    @ak47dragunov 2 місяці тому +49

    I'd be the first guy to scoff at the "magic of PAF's" or whatever, but that thing sounds mean as hell. Great clarity on all strings even with a ton of gain

    • @mystiquesquared
      @mystiquesquared 2 місяці тому +6

      For sure. When he hit that a chord of ten years gone it was perfect.

    • @stevenowen82
      @stevenowen82 2 місяці тому +3

      The pickups def sound like PAFs

    • @jimmyjames4372
      @jimmyjames4372 2 місяці тому

      No more than collectors choice 1 or 2 both have that sustain and vibe, In a blindfold test you would not know - when your told its 250k + oh yeah I hear the difference

  • @wsbill14224
    @wsbill14224 Місяць тому +3

    When I was in 4th grade the inside of my clarinet case looked exactly like the inside of that Les Paul case.

  • @craigbrown9987
    @craigbrown9987 2 місяці тому +5

    The "red eye" staining around the switch makes me think this one also sat in a shop window with its tag on. I wonder how many suffered the same fate?

  • @wallacewinston3627
    @wallacewinston3627 20 днів тому +1

    I thought it was odd that it had been drilled for a trapeze, no mention of that in the video.

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri 3 дні тому +1

      Owner must have added a Bigsby for a short time and then went back to stop tail. Never screwed into the top thankfully. No shadow from being on for a long time.

  • @godbyone
    @godbyone 2 місяці тому +10

    Neck Cavity had the super rare. 4:02 Batman cave cut. Done by
    Diablo the batman. ( he was a super comic book fan )From Gibson. It’s his signature. Cutout

  • @AndrewNeilBaird
    @AndrewNeilBaird 25 днів тому

    Trigger's sweeping brush was a great example of a 1958 classic , he has kept it in great nick with 8 new heads and 6 new poles .

  • @joerectifier
    @joerectifier 2 місяці тому +6

    It’s a gorgeous guitar - I have never played one so I don’t know the aura or the sound. I’m sure there is something to how good these vintage ‘59s sound. I also believe there is a subjectivity to it. I would love to try one but under no circumstance would I be able to afford one. I have a few guitars that are under $3k that, to my ear, leave nothing to be desired for my taste and I use one pedal and the volume knob. I don’t take those guitars out of the house as I have a few ~$1k battle tested tools that sound as great as I can imagine and get the job done. Maybe I’m just not that discriminating. 😂

  • @gayrambo4529
    @gayrambo4529 2 місяці тому +3

    Steve Soest is a good guy. Did a bunch of business with him and he's a straight shooter.

  • @dphotos007
    @dphotos007 Місяць тому +1

    It looks original to me except what was noted. I have a 1973 Les Paul Deluxe same color I bought used in 1976 along with a Fender Deluxe Reverb for $800. I was taking lessons at a guitar store in Northridge, CA. I had ordered a white Fender Mustang. About 3 months in the guitar still did not come in and I saw the used sunburst Gibson for sale in the store and I cancelled my order and bought my guitar. The serial number checks out to the guitar was made in 1973. It plays very well. I tend to play more surf music so I play my Stratocaster more often. I would like a Jassmaster so who knows my might sell my Gibson or trade it for a Jazzmaster.

  • @emmettmarrujo5075
    @emmettmarrujo5075 2 місяці тому +116

    For Sale, 1959 Gibson Les Paul all original and untouched. All original parts. Except, replaced tuners, pickups, pots, knobs, bridge, tailpiece, pickup rings, fingerboard, inlays, frets, pickguard, neck and body, refinished optherwise as shipped from factory in 1959.. guitar was once in the same room as Jimmy Page, though not at the same time. $1,000,000,000. OBO

    • @JohnSmith-in1tt
      @JohnSmith-in1tt 2 місяці тому +8

      Lol, yup. I bet it's a conversion and not even a real burst either. The owner is smoking bananas

    • @MeStevely
      @MeStevely 2 місяці тому +9

      Just like Trigger's broom. UK viewers will know what I mean.

    • @MEGAMIGA
      @MEGAMIGA 2 місяці тому +1

      LOL!!!

    • @69spook
      @69spook 2 місяці тому

      😂👌

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen 2 місяці тому +1

      It's a major fake

  • @Gizmo82477
    @Gizmo82477 29 днів тому +1

    My trad with the iced tea finish looks exactly like this and sounds amazing too

  • @rindred
    @rindred 2 місяці тому +3

    I don't know if it's a "real burst" but man, it sings on Ten Years Gone.

  • @hickoryridgehomestead9177
    @hickoryridgehomestead9177 17 днів тому +1

    I had one 30 years ago and sold it. If I could only go back in time.

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 2 місяці тому +13

    3:49, shouldn't the pickup/switch wiring through-passage be a round hole and not a routed channel?
    Beautiful Instrument, possibly over valued if not original!

    • @ybzoc1965
      @ybzoc1965 2 місяці тому +3

      came here to say that

    • @LCW_01
      @LCW_01 2 місяці тому +1

      For sure on 50s Customs since they were a solid chunk. Not a top. So had to be drilled from the jack plate opening. Don’t know what they did on Bursts though back then. Someone will know.

    • @GhostpainOG
      @GhostpainOG 2 місяці тому +3

      Any solid mahogany LP regardless of era will have the round channel. It's a function of the drill bit they had to use to get to the switch cavity from the control cavity for solid mahogany bodies. For a maple top, the channel was made with a router bit, hence the squared shape. Then the top was glued on.
      All bursts are maple tops. There were maple topped Goldtops that were later refinned to be bursts once bursts became more desirable. I imagine that many other solid top of the day was refinned as a burst, hence the higher than production numbers of bursts "found".

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 місяці тому

      @@GhostpainOG You are indeed correct, I just checked my Gibson Les Paul, and Yes, it is a channel route for the wiring passage.
      Interestingly though, I have a newer 1954 Goldtop reissue built by the Tokai Custom Shop in Japan, on that guitar the wiring passage from the control cavity to the selector switch route is a single 5/8 bore hole originating at the output jack passage!
      I can't stress enough the high quality of the Tokai Custom Shop guitars, same specifications of a Gibson Custom Shop instrument at a little more than half the price!

  • @MrMikepresley
    @MrMikepresley 2 місяці тому +2

    @3:21 where the pickguard screw location lines up evenly with the fret, is a good sign the guitar might be legit.

  • @WaZaaap6
    @WaZaaap6 2 місяці тому +3

    Having the Burst i think it is an absolute MUST to pay for a Proper authentication to have appropriate documentation along with the instrument. SPECIALLY if one has wonderful Top like this one has!:)))))
    Because "Bursts" with more beautiful tops can have Insane difference in its price As well as how Guitar is getting its unique name)))) (and getting into "Magazines" about Bursts😊)

  • @bjdenil
    @bjdenil 11 днів тому +1

    Even Greeny was only purchased it for 420k so part of the burst thing is what will people pay for it.

  • @ferox965
    @ferox965 2 місяці тому +3

    That sounds great. Way brighter than my 2001.

  • @50Something
    @50Something 2 місяці тому +1

    Beautiful specimen but a I'm not sure the neck has been off due to the appearance of the neck cavity. It has been refinished and repaired for sure!

  • @darrinpikarsky
    @darrinpikarsky 2 місяці тому +10

    It is definitely not Murphy lab. The pickups look legit the outer rim of the route just under the control cavity looks legit. Definitely an old refinish on the neck. Many original or era correct parts. The headstock doesn't look right to me or the logo position. It might just be the angle you were filming at. My final comment will be on the wood, specifically the maple top. Not a typical late '50s top. Could have also been renecked by Gibson or someone else. The neck has been off. I am not knocking the guitar at all considering how rare they are. If there was a water slide decal on there, possibly could be a Max or less of a chance, it's Derrig. No need to be hating by the a-holes in the peanut gallery. He's trying to legitimately help someone. I know. I appreciate your time in showing me this guitar. Thank you! Yes, I have about six Gibsons from the 1950s.

    • @lovesgibson
      @lovesgibson 2 місяці тому +1

      That’s what I thought, I’ve never seen actual original bursts with a top that looks like that… the colors also don’t look right

    • @RLM575
      @RLM575 2 місяці тому +1

      About??

  • @BleedingDirt-j8n
    @BleedingDirt-j8n 10 днів тому +2

    Needs some emgs, a floyd, and a neon green paint job

    • @davideatwell6577
      @davideatwell6577 9 днів тому +1

      Yeah, maybe a Floyd Rose and some new machine heads as well, should sort it out

    • @BleedingDirt-j8n
      @BleedingDirt-j8n 9 днів тому +1

      @davideatwell6577 fr

    • @BleedingDirt-j8n
      @BleedingDirt-j8n 9 днів тому +1

      @davideatwell6577 and stainless steel frets while we're at it

  • @eddiejr540
    @eddiejr540 2 місяці тому +11

    Well there you have it folks…1959 P.A.F pickups…and they sound…..like humbucker pickups🫤

    • @GlynOC
      @GlynOC Місяць тому +2

      As I read once - "Long tenon, short tenon, once the drummer comes in, who knows??"

    • @eddiejr540
      @eddiejr540 Місяць тому +1

      @ …hahahahahaha

  • @michaelbond6186
    @michaelbond6186 2 місяці тому +1

    My two cents, it's a parts Les Paul that was assembled in Southern California. The guitar body started life as a 57 Les Paul Gold Top. The current neck is a replacement, the serial number make for the 59 Les Paul Burst identification. The kicker are the vintage Gibson parts, you can almost believe that's it's a 59. Like the tone from the guitar, it sounds better than Mike Campbell's Burst.

    • @vonroretz3307
      @vonroretz3307 2 місяці тому

      Except.. for that red eye round the toggle switch.

  • @mboyer68
    @mboyer68 2 місяці тому +3

    65 years old, that's amazing.

  • @GeorgeOzier-gr5zq
    @GeorgeOzier-gr5zq 2 місяці тому +3

    Someone loved that guitar for a long time.

  • @jaco_h5013
    @jaco_h5013 2 місяці тому +2

    I would be tempted to swap the bridge and neck pickup around as the necks way hotter than the bridge

  • @Squall6575
    @Squall6575 2 місяці тому +10

    Idk if its real, but it sounds great! The middle position is exactly how a burst should sound

  • @timusa3937
    @timusa3937 20 днів тому +1

    With your knowledge of Gibson instruments, would you know of anyone who could authenticate a Gibson prewar Flathead no hole tone ring . Thanks for any help and info . Beautiful LP 🇺🇸

  • @Stemma3
    @Stemma3 2 місяці тому +4

    15:00 that thumb :S

  • @lances6512
    @lances6512 2 місяці тому +1

    Sounds incredible, that bridge pickup is unbelievable. One in a million.

  • @michaelaiello9525
    @michaelaiello9525 2 місяці тому +5

    Your neck assessment .... based on the one "cracked" seam and the two other oversprayed seams, you think it was off. But there may still be a chance the one seam just had natural separation and the other two were blended in a neck refinish while attached, no?

  • @geet77777
    @geet77777 10 днів тому +1

    Thats easily my favorite 59 ive ever seen.

  • @RandalSmith
    @RandalSmith 2 місяці тому +8

    Autumnburst. I like it.

  • @surfocaster
    @surfocaster 18 днів тому

    In the video you can clearly see that there are drill holes near the rear strap peg - did this have a trapeze or different tailpiece on it at one point?

    • @Trog
      @Trog  18 днів тому +2

      Bigsby

  • @carnacthemagnificent2498
    @carnacthemagnificent2498 2 місяці тому +3

    I don't know about the guitar but I once owned an original NOS ABR-1 from 1959 and I did a ton of research to authenticate it. The real ones have a mis-stamp on them on the right hand side, you can see a double line instead of just one, and it's there. Fakes and reproductions don't have it (though it's possible that one repo that Gibson did in recent years had it, not 100% sure). Believe it or not a close look at the saddles and the screws can tell you if it's legit too and date specifically to 1959, I can't see the screws (the shape of the bevel on the tops is the key) and the "tell" on the saddles is not showing in the vid (it's the mill marks on the flat side of the saddle). From what I can see though, it looks right.

  • @deeyo1511
    @deeyo1511 8 днів тому +1

    do all the 59s have a 4.3 deg neck angle?

    • @Jeff-li5ri
      @Jeff-li5ri 3 дні тому +1

      Great question! The 1952 - 1956 Les Paul's have less of an angle, 3.8° I believe. The late 1960 necks have more of a neck angle. But are ALL 59's 4.3°.....doubtful. There was a lot of variation in the necks of this period.

  • @Hanover_Fist
    @Hanover_Fist 2 місяці тому +3

    Very nice vid. The tone and sustain seem to be right on!!! Please update us with any new info about this special example...Thanks.

  • @Jake-yx7ct
    @Jake-yx7ct 15 днів тому +1

    Sounded like a Champ in Neck and Bridge. With the neck being off and possibly replaced the Monster $$$$$$ aren't called for. Id say that for play ability and tone it's worthy of a good chunk of coinage. A great review Trogg my man. Oh and great riffing.

  • @paulrenevos
    @paulrenevos 2 місяці тому +14

    those old pafs are so much clearer than modern Gibson pickups

    • @ArchieOnEarth
      @ArchieOnEarth 2 місяці тому +3

      I always wondered if the old PAFs sounded like that new, or did they have to age into that sound.

    • @jamesemerson4102
      @jamesemerson4102 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ArchieOnEarth If you get something like Tom Holmes PAF replicas, they do have that sound immediately. It's also the ageing and the guitar itself though. Part of the magic is that for one, they were unpotted. This gives you a more immediate snap on the attack. Most modern humbuckers are wax potted to get rid of any possible squealing or unwanted noise. You can still get unpotted pickups today from builders but most manufacturers make them wax potted 2) they are very low wind and this allows for way more clarity. They are quieter, but because they have less gain, they are much clearer because of it. Less bottom end so less whoofiness. A real awesome PAF should sound almost like a tele pickup but on steroids. Mind you it was also about the way they wound the pickups and the magnets that were used. Tom Holmes built amazing PAF replicas some of the best in the world and he used alnico 2 magnet in the bridge instead of 4 or something else for example. Even the covers matter - Tom Holmes uses very thin covers

    • @jamesemerson4102
      @jamesemerson4102 2 місяці тому +1

      Part of that is the very low amount of winds, and also the magnets that were used are important. Most Modern humbuckers have much more winds around the bobbin and they're much louder but that carries with it Whoofiness and Mud and a very honky mid range. You lose the clarity and warmth and articulation. Check out something like the Lollar low wind Imperials if you want that early PAF sound, or if you find a good pickup builder, get them to build you some that are Unpotted and low wind. I recently had a set of Unpotted PAF style made for me by a pickup maker and they sound much more "vintage" to me than the wax potted ones I had before.

    • @paulrenevos
      @paulrenevos 2 місяці тому

      @@jamesemerson4102 funny you mention that. I exchanged my Gibson 498/490 from my Les Paul and replaced the. with Lollar imperials (low wind in the neck). It sounds so much better taut still not as clear as these pickups

    • @ChrisShortyAllen
      @ChrisShortyAllen 2 місяці тому

      They are fake

  • @MKBHHildgund
    @MKBHHildgund 24 дні тому +1

    Has correct double braided vintage wiring.

  • @zeppelinboys
    @zeppelinboys 2 місяці тому +5

    the prices of those Les Pauls makes me glad I'm an SG man. idk what the early 60s SGs go for but i would guess much, much less than a quarter of a million dollars(!). the Les Paul is a fine guitar and all but I don't get why the SG doesn't get as much love.

    • @TUUK2006
      @TUUK2006 2 місяці тому

      I don't get why ANYONE thinks that the age of a guitar means a god damn thing. If you're into that, then you're a collector, not a player. There was no CNC back then. It was mostly hand made and if you wanted a good guitar, you had to be lucky enough to get it through the hands of half a dozen people who were great at what they did. Most didn't. There's a lot of utter crap out there going for stupid money for no reason other than how old it is. It's insane!

  • @fb1767
    @fb1767 13 днів тому +1

    Looks and sounds incredible

  • @VN9001
    @VN9001 2 місяці тому +3

    The sound of that LP is astounding. Why would there not be any binding bleed on this '59? (genuine question here. I have a CS '58 (R8) and got binding bleed on both the neck and body within 1 month. Hate it.

    • @Redrum046
      @Redrum046 2 місяці тому +1

      Bleed fades with time, I love it.

  • @Captain_Yata
    @Captain_Yata 2 місяці тому +1

    Two videos in a row, you've found Standards that I really like. Quite the accomplishment :)

  • @justingarzamusic
    @justingarzamusic 2 місяці тому +8

    2:34 it was actually mine in a past life, you can just send it to me if you want. the pink paint was from me painting my 58’ shell pink coupe deville and the yellow/gold was actually similarly from a ‘77 camaro that had this weird thing happen to it where the radio would just change stations. thought it was something speaking to me but it could’ve been my wife barb

  • @schmenge7
    @schmenge7 Місяць тому +1

    at least the wire harness braid looks correct...in almost all repros, the braided wire is made up of 3 smaller wires...here it's 2, which is correct.

  • @ethanhitchcock5431
    @ethanhitchcock5431 2 місяці тому +5

    What a great finish , love the bikini lines under the poker chip etc... , the mixture of Iced Tea w/Lemon + Green , very interesting , I've never held a real 59' in my hands nor spied one with me peeps , so thank Trogly for a video with a beauty full specimen , Thanks Trog !