Starfield VS. Cyberpunk 2077 - AI & Physics Comparison

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  • @LeftyRighty123
    @LeftyRighty123 Рік тому +251

    To be fair cyberpunk is cd projekt red first 1st person shooter game they've made, it's very impressive for what it is. And if they end up making more 1st person shooters they will have learnt a lot. Bethesda never learns because they know the people who buy them are morons.

    • @BearGamingAsia
      @BearGamingAsia  Рік тому +34

      I think they will Fock up the elder scroll 6 too

    • @LeftyRighty123
      @LeftyRighty123 Рік тому +2

      @@BearGamingAsia yeah pretty much, morrowind is still the best elder scrolls and most well thought-out.

    • @ryanandrew102
      @ryanandrew102 Рік тому +12

      The main problem Bethesda has is that they just can't move away from their janky engine. I enjoyed the scope of Starfield, and the ways in which you could loot and customise things, but the way the world works and its physics is not fit for this gen, or even las gen. Think Bethesda got away with it this time because of the space setting and how different and nicely crafted the world is, but it's difficult to see how the engine can be competetive next gen

    • @BearGamingAsia
      @BearGamingAsia  Рік тому

      ​@@ryanandrew102 If you like loot and build, you will like starfield. I just don't the empty planets and many loading screens. Bethesda engine is awful and old.

    • @LaserLips2
      @LaserLips2 Рік тому +9

      @@ryanandrew102 Their engine has its impressive aspects, like:
      1) Its crazy accommodation for clutter physics, it can literally handle 20,0000 bottles of milk being spawned all at once, each with their own accurate physics
      2) Its "persistent world" where every quest and character is operating 24/7
      3) It's near perfect "memory" for object placement. I.e. you can place a plushie doll in the right hand corner of a bench and the game will remember that placement indefinitely.
      4) The Creation Engine's god tier moddability extends the shelf life of each Bethesda game
      These were and still are impressive aspects of the Creation Engine that we ought to acknowledge, BUT... the only real areas that the Creation Engine has improved since Fallout 4 that modders haven't accomplished is NPC density and its physically based rendering. Not insignificant accomplishments, but Bethesda had fucking soooooo much more than that to improve on.

  • @BarneyGoogl
    @BarneyGoogl Рік тому +1668

    Alright, Cyberpunk; you've been promoted. Starfield; you're the new Cyberpunk now.

    • @joshuagarcia6439
      @joshuagarcia6439 Рік тому +47

      HAHA yea give a game some time and what do you know it can be actually good

    • @DKFProductions
      @DKFProductions Рік тому +34

      Not even close

    • @Sen.100
      @Sen.100 Рік тому +82

      Excited for the starfield anime to drop!

    • @Tbaggrrr
      @Tbaggrrr Рік тому +4

      You win 😂

    • @Fumble469
      @Fumble469 Рік тому +22

      Lmao starfield still looks better and cyberpunk has been updated for 2 years

  • @Tytus01UNIT
    @Tytus01UNIT Рік тому +194

    A huge problem with Starfield is the promise of 1000 planets etc. I would rather see 5 planets the size of Skyrim, but interesting to explore. Starfield exploration does not exist.

    • @BearGamingAsia
      @BearGamingAsia  Рік тому +13

      You are right

    • @BearGamingAsia
      @BearGamingAsia  Рік тому +26

      We just need 5 good maps, not 1000 empty planets

    • @Tytus01UNIT
      @Tytus01UNIT Рік тому +5

      @@BearGamingAsia Yeah, but this is bethesda. We „all” will accept it. Moders will repair it. Bethesda will recook it 16x times in the next 15 years 🤪

    • @BearGamingAsia
      @BearGamingAsia  Рік тому +1

      @@Tytus01UNIT i think they are making the same things on the elder scroll 6 with old engine. It will be HD ver. of the elder scroll 5

    • @Tytus01UNIT
      @Tytus01UNIT Рік тому +2

      @hhh6930 hmm, Todd said it is Skyrim in space. This is nothing like that and it is a straight lie. I would rather have “Skyrim in space” to be true and never hear that there are 1000 planets. This is a joke and if anyone is defending that… has to be crazy delusional. I think it hurts the game. I wouldn't leave that game for next year if there would be at least 1 map/planet that is as interesting as the Skyrim map. Imagine 5 planets like that. I don't think many people would complain about 5x40-200h experiences ;) and more planets or even “1000 planet” expansion could be a future content. I'm so glad this game is in gamepass… I would be 16x more pissed if I would pay for it.

  • @goatwarrior3570
    @goatwarrior3570 Рік тому +151

    Cyberpunk's problems came because it was released before it was finished. After the last two years of them actually working on finishing the game it's pretty solid and 2.0 will likely knock it out of the park. What you see with Starfield is the finished product. The most mid single player game Bethesda has released in decades.

    • @adamgerald849
      @adamgerald849 Рік тому +7

      Idk. It's about the same quality as all Bethesda games, the only difference is other developers have grown and adapted and Bethesda has grown alright, grown fat and lazy off of all the Skyrim ports and Fallout merchandise they sell. The other difference is the worlds of TES and Fallout were interesting and fun to learn about and explore. There are thousands of videos about the expansive and fascinating lore of those two games. Meanwhile Starfield is the most boring world imaginable. It couldn't be more generic if it tried.

    • @IgnatzKolisch
      @IgnatzKolisch 2 місяці тому +1

      Can confirm from the future: 2.0 (and now 2.1) knock it out of the park. Hope you enjoy learning this one year in the past.

  • @leakyabstraction
    @leakyabstraction Рік тому +714

    It's unbelievable that supposedly hundreds of people are working on these games for many years...

    • @Chinothebad
      @Chinothebad Рік тому +19

      To be honest, one would have to wonder what teams were there. I wouldn't be surprised if outside of those actually working on the game they had marketing and advertising involved.

    • @Travolta12e
      @Travolta12e Рік тому +139

      Wouldn't be surprised if the diversity team is bigger than the AI team...

    • @dumbo-lv7jy
      @dumbo-lv7jy Рік тому +18

      it's unbelievable how people can hate on a game no matter what just because of their expectations being so high.... its the best Bethesda day 1 release in a long time smh

    • @baseddegenerate5312
      @baseddegenerate5312 Рік тому +36

      It's gotta be some form of money laundering. Starfield supposedly had a budget of 200 million, where did that money go? Because it certainly didn't go on the animations or AI or to develop a new engine. Even the marketing for this game was lackluster.

    • @lekretka
      @lekretka Рік тому +57

      @@dumbo-lv7jy if you pay full price for game from game studio of such scale you can have high expectations. And what is shown on a video isn't rocket science, sensible AI behavior existed in games 10 years ago. The game deserves all it's critics, because million/billion dollar company saves money providing worse experience, and you are consuming it like it's normal. Games should be made with attention to details, even indie developers do so, but company which released Skyrim doesn't for some reason.

  • @bigpileofpuke
    @bigpileofpuke Рік тому +668

    Thank you Starfield for making me appreciate Cyberpunk that much more. Phantom Liberty is going to be epic!

    • @agtl3168
      @agtl3168 Рік тому +53

      There's still absolutely nothing to do in Cyberpunks world even after needing 3298949023932 different patches to fix it, it's still lifeless.

    • @afraeemsakib4588
      @afraeemsakib4588 Рік тому

      @@agtl3168 just like starfailed yeah?
      1000 planets but 98% of them are lifeless and nothing to do

    • @talacra
      @talacra Рік тому

      @@agtl3168 what?😂 Go get the game before shitting on it it's already amazing doesn't even need mods anymore to work properly. You have low standards and keep eating that Bethesda shit.

    • @bigpileofpuke
      @bigpileofpuke Рік тому +64

      @@agtl3168 Come on, it's definitely not lifeless. I wish there was more traffic at times but overall I think Night City has a lot of heart. And I feel like there's tons of stuff to do in terms of gigs and side quests. And they'll be even more when Phantom Liberty drops.
      I'd forgive alot of Starfield's shortcomings if it's character faces, writing, and vibe were on the same level as Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk is weird and sexy. Starfield is sterile and dull. But different strokes for different folks.

    • @tsivilsඞ
      @tsivilsඞ Рік тому +11

      @@bigpileofpuke Yeah love night city but I do agree that there should be more immersive Sim like elements to get up to (aka normal people non illegal things). If you wanna role play as a pacifist or something there really is very little for you. Upgrading cars cosmetically and performance wise, investing, working non criminal jobs, gambling and other minigames, or customizing an apartment.
      As someone who wants to really feel like I'm living in the rpg worlds night city can feel somewhat 2 dimensional at times but it has so much potential.
      I know molders have added some stuff but cdpr games are just not as easy to mod as Bethesda games. Starfield mods will accomplish in 6 months what its taken years for cyberpunk mods to accomplish unfortunately.

  • @Aiko_76
    @Aiko_76 Рік тому +81

    Well, some people here are saying that Starfield should be compared with the launch version of Cyberpunk. Starfield was published 3 years later and Bethesda has the bad habit of letting the modders fix the issues while CDPR addressed many of the issues plus they really listened to the feedback of the players. Also, I don't see how the boring quests and lifeless voice-acting in Starfield can be fixed.

    • @Traxxynedit
      @Traxxynedit Рік тому

      Crybaby

    • @Traxxynedit
      @Traxxynedit Рік тому +2

      Fangay

    • @ChceTok3ny
      @ChceTok3ny Рік тому +15

      @@Traxxynedit you're the one crying 😭🤗🤣🤡🤡

    • @starcultiniser
      @starcultiniser Рік тому +7

      exactly, what's the chance Bethesda is going to improve their game? basically no chance.

    • @Traxxynedit
      @Traxxynedit Рік тому

      @@ChceTok3ny you sony fangay

  • @jish55
    @jish55 Рік тому +56

    The beauty of Cyberpunk was that even during the initial release, it was always full of life. Starfield after being completed feels hollow.

    • @Traxxynedit
      @Traxxynedit 8 місяців тому

      Jajjajaja fanboy of cyberpunk 2077

    • @jaere17
      @jaere17 5 місяців тому +7

      @@Traxxyneditas someone who played cyberpunk at launch, it was already better than sf 3 years ago. better writing, better characters, better combat, denser world, no loading screens

    • @mahnwmeisjep5112
      @mahnwmeisjep5112 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@jaere17 He's too broke to afford cyberpunk

  • @darthvader777
    @darthvader777 Рік тому +220

    Cyberpunk has 2 times higher fps with much better graphics

    • @fps_lobo
      @fps_lobo Рік тому +40

      Foreal i max out cyberpunk and get 140 fps. I run Starfield on low and get 50 fps in cities

    • @dumbo-lv7jy
      @dumbo-lv7jy Рік тому +5

      oooo better graphics wow so cool dude smh

    • @FaZeloffOfGlizzywood
      @FaZeloffOfGlizzywood Рік тому +10

      @@fps_lobo starfield is pushing boundaries. What boundaries is cyberpunk pushing besides graphics (which don’t matter in a game)

    • @TechFinn12
      @TechFinn12 Рік тому +26

      ​@@FaZeloffOfGlizzywoodbro starfield has issues to

    • @TheSydrek
      @TheSydrek Рік тому +54

      @@FaZeloffOfGlizzywood Cyberpunk: story telling, character development, world building, visual design aka details in clothes, cars and the environments, seamless MASSIVE AND DENSE open world cities whereas BGS couldn't get something as small as whiterun to run properly and now still can't... bonus is they've made their own music and don't just license tracks or rely on ambiance & symphonies....what else...i'm sure i'm forgetting more.
      NOW, what boundaries does starfield push ?!? There's only two i can think of, testing how far they can get by giving gamers the ugliest most braindead AI in a modern game and not getting trashed for it and testing the boundaries of gamers patience with all their loading screens for everything.

  • @Americaisglauber
    @Americaisglauber Рік тому +217

    25 years to make Starfield.... That means Starfield is a game from 1998.
    Well, for a 1998 game its not that bad

  • @e.777.r2
    @e.777.r2 Рік тому +87

    Keep in mind that many reviewers gave this game a 10/10 😂😂😂, more like 6

    • @MsNellyuan
      @MsNellyuan Рік тому +11

      Bethesda and MS paid them into doing it . Quin69's reveals that on stream , Bethesda Community Manager gives out the " good boy biscuits " to all the influencers who give it a nice review.

  • @allanwong3447
    @allanwong3447 Рік тому +58

    They have to do loading screens for the elevator now? C’mon even fallout 4 is better than this!

    • @dragnar12
      @dragnar12 Рік тому +12

      if u teleport from on esystem to an other to do a quest
      U have like 5 loading screens
      1 from planet to ship
      Then from ship to outer space
      Then from space to other planet ( multi ply this by how many jumps u need )
      Then from space back to new planet
      Then from ship to getting on the planet.
      And u do this 1-2 times per fucking quest

    • @vincentliou3746
      @vincentliou3746 Рік тому +1

      It's 2023 and I have to teleport with an elevator🤣

    • @Kiiiurself8482
      @Kiiiurself8482 Рік тому

      ​@@dragnar12or you have 1 by just clicking to destination instantly?

    • @cole9693
      @cole9693 6 місяців тому

      ​@Kiiiurself8482 then you miss out on all the actual space stuff, so have to make sure u travel to a system and not just land from menu

  • @xikaryo6735
    @xikaryo6735 Рік тому +191

    Cyberpunk makes Starfield look two generations old, and Starfield doesn’t have an excuse either because Cyberpunk’s map is absolutely loaded with even the smallest details while having great visuals, and Starfield just looks barren on any planet you land on while looking like an old PS3 game, except Killzone 2 actually had way better graphics, animations, and physics than Starfield. Starfield’s endlessly embarrassing dialogue shows me it’s more of a talking simulator, not a real game that cared about the player having fun with exploration. You can’t even really explore in the game, it just wants the player to do quests and listen to ugly NPCs talking. Surprise surprise, Todd Howard lied again just like he tricked everyone into getting hyped for Fallout 76. I miss Mass Effect.

    • @TheMarcHicks
      @TheMarcHicks Рік тому +29

      Starfield has even less excuse as it was built almost entirely for the current gen hardware. Cyberpunk 2077 was trying to be multi-generational, and that really hampered the game at launch. Will be interesting to see what CDPR can achieve now they can ditch the PS4/Xbox-1 systems.

    • @xiRePeNTx
      @xiRePeNTx Рік тому +3

      😂 explain me something how this game took 8 years to develop 😂

    • @WewillbeFreeinlightandPeace
      @WewillbeFreeinlightandPeace Рік тому +1

      You're just an und thankful guy this game just launched and will be updated and modded to the max

    • @xiRePeNTx
      @xiRePeNTx Рік тому +41

      @@WewillbeFreeinlightandPeace wtf 💀 so it's a modders responsibility to finish the game not the developers who's charging money for this game. Even if it was a free game that is not an excuse to launch a game at a state like this especially after the Cyberpunk fiasco.

    • @dinglshingle
      @dinglshingle Рік тому +9

      @@xiRePeNTx /s
      at this point theyd just argue that it a huge step forward from fallout 76🙃 that's all youll get at full price take it or leave it

  • @dal.890
    @dal.890 Рік тому +52

    this is why I love being a patient gamer. Just now getting through the witcher 3 and only recently bought RDR2 lol. really want cyberpunk but ill still be waiting for a good sale at least

    • @kanji6153
      @kanji6153 Рік тому +2

      You don’t have to be patient with rockstar bro

    • @dal.890
      @dal.890 Рік тому +2

      @@kanji6153 sure but it was only $20

    • @Bearded-Bastard
      @Bearded-Bastard Рік тому +2

      Glad to hear other people having this same mindset as I have, funny enough I just got RDR2 few months ago and Cyberpunk 2077 a week ago, both at very reasonable prizes and I'm legit having a blast playing both, specially RDR2, man that game is an absolute wonder. Thanks to this patient mindset I also avoided years of broken game bugs, unfinished content, overblown DLC prizes and all that, Just bought the entire game + all dlcs for half the prize or 1/3 of the full overprized product + with all the up to date fixes and patches. I have been doing this for ages and I have saved hundreds, probably thousands of €uros by buying this way, but most importantly I avoided all the corporate marketing hype lies and market manipulation, I avoided all the game breaking bugs and all the endless waiting for issues to be solved, waiting an endless train of patches for years to come.
      I saw this coming with Starfield... not only the game is massively underdelivered and having tons of rubbish and meh's all over, but also overprized, overhyped, an average score in gameplay, no innovation and showing a clear step back in all fields, those who claim this is a next-gen videogame in terms of graphics but also complex AI and gameplay are absolute ####ridding the studio and in total cognitive dissonance, it is clearly not next-gen and to be honest, it's so bland and rubbish that I'm not even sure I'm gonna by this at all. Also to mention as well, it shows how mediocre and how despicable this modern industry is by the fact that people have to "mandatory rely on modders" to fix something that is supposed TO BE FIXED since day 1, specially if it cost 70 F'ing dollars, coming from Bethesda an studio globally well known which such gigantic budget and human resources. You can't justify rubbish and mods are not here to do the job and fix all the mess that studios should have done since the day one. This wasn't the norm just few years back and apparently now is like common knowledge to assume that, wild times we are living.

  • @dachshund_gaming
    @dachshund_gaming Рік тому +91

    It’s weird, it’s not like they don’t have a “running scared” status for NPCs in the game, they just don’t get it when near gunfire. That honestly seems like a bug to me

    • @PsycosisIncarnated
      @PsycosisIncarnated Рік тому +16

      oh yeah right. ''bug''.

    • @ssss-e2m8s
      @ssss-e2m8s Рік тому +2

      Error that all games in 2023 do not have dismemberments and a decent AI and not a shitty bullet sponge game with DIMMY AI, metro exodus is more or less but much more decent than those games, and with a shotgun on hard difficulty they kill you

  • @joshuagarcia6439
    @joshuagarcia6439 Рік тому +195

    I really liked that at 1:14 the random npc in cyberpunk pulled out an iron bc if you living in that city you better have one on you .

    • @dinglshingle
      @dinglshingle Рік тому +15

      murder is likely never investigated in night city

    • @Medved-
      @Medved- Рік тому +12

      Yeah it was added in an update.

    • @DMrKunst2
      @DMrKunst2 Рік тому +5

      Only took them three years to do it

    • @ssss-e2m8s
      @ssss-e2m8s Рік тому +1

      what more basic programmers, that one is already terrible the movements are reset it does not seem natural my god

    • @QueenMiracle46
      @QueenMiracle46 Рік тому +2

      @@DMrKunst21*

  • @jessicaguarin3897
    @jessicaguarin3897 Рік тому +24

    One thing they removed from cyberpunk 2077 that I liked was the 3D map, where you could see it from any angle and direction.

  • @Drstrange3000
    @Drstrange3000 Рік тому +117

    This is where a lot of modern games could prioritize more of. Most trade in interactivity, physics, and believable AI for huge game worlds and the amount of content they could push instead of trying to really immerse the player. The games may look pretty in still shots, but once they require movement of any kind, the illusion breaks.
    Not every game needs to be immersive, of course, but the games that try to market themselves as these immersive big open worlds with life usually fall short. Baldur's Gate 3 is exactly the kind of interactivity and variety I would love from more of these huge AAA titles. I wish they scaled down and focused on interesting and unique content instead of "All the content."

    • @UnknownOps
      @UnknownOps Рік тому +7

      RDR2 and BG3 are good examples of open world games providing players with things to do.

    • @resistencia1297
      @resistencia1297 Рік тому +2

      Comentario de gamer promedio que exige juegos de calidad, pero no quiere cambiar de sistema económico

    • @John-996
      @John-996 Рік тому +1

      Imagine what a Bully 2 could do with NPCs interaction.

    • @Drstrange3000
      @Drstrange3000 Рік тому

      @@John-996 I would be all over that!

    • @daltonliles6161
      @daltonliles6161 Рік тому

      ​@@UnknownOpsAnd providing great detail on top of all that. If rockstar can do it bethesda absolutely can. They just won't is the problem.

  • @wargames2195
    @wargames2195 Рік тому +261

    I need to apologize to Cyberpunk 2077.

    • @namgunaucao9771
      @namgunaucao9771 Рік тому +7

      this game still have ps1 physics.

    • @FaZeloffOfGlizzywood
      @FaZeloffOfGlizzywood Рік тому +33

      For what 😭 till this day cyberpunk still has issues despite the shit ton of patches.

    • @wargames2195
      @wargames2195 Рік тому +27

      @@FaZeloffOfGlizzywood Yeah, at least it ain't Starfield.

    • @StitchRizz90
      @StitchRizz90 Рік тому +33

      ​@@FaZeloffOfGlizzywoodLol, what issues? The game is great

    • @FaZeloffOfGlizzywood
      @FaZeloffOfGlizzywood Рік тому +4

      @@wargames2195 explain exactly what is starfield then.

  • @Rzepik
    @Rzepik Рік тому +92

    I think we owe Cyberpunk a limited semi-apology.

    • @dinglshingle
      @dinglshingle Рік тому +32

      "Hey CDPR, while giving us the worst launch in history of gaming. Theres an even better scapegoat in the triple A scene. For this we are limited semi-sorry"🤣

    • @ihatehealthbars
      @ihatehealthbars Рік тому +6

      I still wait for cdpr to apologize

    • @tsivilsඞ
      @tsivilsඞ Рік тому +16

      @@dinglshingle yeah except its not a better scapegoat. Starfield is the most polished bgs game ever at launch. whereas cyberpunk was the worst ever cdpr game at launch and maybe the worst performing AAA rpg ever at launch. I LOVE both games so looking at this objectively, that statement is unfair. starfield delivered all it said it would. Also 2077 has had years to improve and starfield hasnt even OFFICIALLY launched yet. Starfield has struggling performance fps wise but bugs wise its very good. Again both are great games and im more excited for a cyberpunk sequel than a starfield one but on launch grenades didnt even splash in water in cyberpunk. launch version of cyberpunk wasnt just broken but missing normal physics and features gta 4 had ages ago. If cyberpunk as broken as it was could spread its wings and fly, starfield can take off too.
      (if nothing else it will bc of bgs games ease of modding. there are already well over 100 mods and I imagine after official launch they will drop their official tool and the script extender will come out and then its going to explode on the mods and far surpass cyberpunk mods. so if you really really care about npcs cowering at your aim then wait a month or 3)

    • @TheSydrek
      @TheSydrek Рік тому +1

      @@ihatehealthbars A simple google search, their CEO did a written and video apology, and offered a unprecedented never seen before full refund out of pocket to anyone for the first week or two of launch, that angered Sony as they had no refund option on their digital store which made them stop selling it digitally for a while.
      Meanwhile Bethesda refused my FO76 refund twice and only mentioned "how they could've done things differently" after 5 years when they started hyping up Starfield.

    • @laravelanode
      @laravelanode Рік тому

      they both suck , idk why you people acting like this , pathetic .

  • @A7XKoRnRocks1
    @A7XKoRnRocks1 Рік тому +8

    The amount of loading screens in starfield lmao

  • @stupidlizard4764
    @stupidlizard4764 Рік тому +12

    You'll see ten years later Todd will make his new and unique project. Todd's Mod. It's like Garry's Mod where all you can do is install mods into the sandbox, but on maps from Bethesda games. But you'll also need mods for it to work properly

  • @dynaelder5037
    @dynaelder5037 Рік тому +54

    Wow, Cyberpunk owns big time. Makes me want to play Cyberpunk again.

    • @lofi1598
      @lofi1598 Рік тому +3

      Cyberpunk is one city, while Starfield has four cities, a thousand planets to explore, animals and missions, 1000 hours of missions, and a lot of weapons and options. Indeed, it is a stupid comparison. Different game design.

    • @TotalJerkFaces
      @TotalJerkFaces Рік тому +23

      cope so hard huh?@@lofi1598

    • @eluniarr
      @eluniarr Рік тому +29

      ​@@lofi1598 that one city in cyberpunk is larger and more detailed compared to all 4 cities in starfield combined lol, and 1000 hours of mission what delusion are you on? Cyberpunk has more weapons and weapon types than starfield.

    • @lofi1598
      @lofi1598 Рік тому

      you ccope pony hater @@TotalJerkFaces

    • @lofi1598
      @lofi1598 Рік тому

      did you play starfeild no so dont talk @@eluniarr

  • @koniczka2000
    @koniczka2000 Рік тому +75

    I feel as Starfield is like Fallout 76 but with NPCs

    • @BearGamingAsia
      @BearGamingAsia  Рік тому +50

      starfield is a shit game

    • @koniczka2000
      @koniczka2000 Рік тому +3

      @@BearGamingAsia Glad to hear, cause I don't have Xbox haha

    • @HungNgo-ir7eq
      @HungNgo-ir7eq Рік тому +10

      @@BearGamingAsiaI think you being harsh, It actually a good game though and no I’m not a fanboy or anything, I’m just honest at all

    • @ahmadali-mw3ov
      @ahmadali-mw3ov Рік тому

      ​@@BearGamingAsia who is better , starfield or cyberpunk ?

    • @Andriej69
      @Andriej69 Рік тому +2

      @@BearGamingAsia Man, I like you already

  • @DemonKnight94
    @DemonKnight94 Рік тому +22

    Character Creation seems a bit more robust in SF, but everything else was better in CP. Now CP also has had 3 years worth of improvements post launch.

    • @zamaskowany12
      @zamaskowany12 Рік тому +1

      Last CP patch was a year ago, since 2.0 update is not out yet.

  • @Vandyman06
    @Vandyman06 Рік тому +63

    I can actually kind of understand the limitations with the NPCs for Cyberpunks case in terms of like, their reactions showcased and such, because the NPCS on showcase are more "Filler" or crowd NPCS to give more life, reduced in complexity and more basic to reduce the usage of ram and GPU.
    For example 6:20 they're showcased as pre-set animations and weirder, more clunky style, and y'know, they could just technically do what they do for regular enemy characters are in cyberpunk and it could look much more sophisticated and cleaner, but if they DID do that, then most likely either the games engine or your computer would be working to the max to try and run as hard as possible, just to the sheer amount of physics and computing required to give the complete reactions.
    Starfield, Doesn't have this excuse, since all NPCS are coded the same, and all provide those sorts of reactions and everything, so they're all on the same level, and its still that bad.
    Basically, Cyberpunk crowd is meant to be downgraded quality, Starfield is meant to be the regular NPC

    • @namgunaucao9771
      @namgunaucao9771 Рік тому

      cp2077 use more animations than ragdoll because their games ragdoll like shit. happen in tw3 too. look at rdr2 in physics. gtaiv, gta v too. use animations like this is shit

    • @rioplats
      @rioplats Рік тому +6

      They have a downgraded "crowd NPC" system for Starfield too, this time around. They even have lower-quality meshes and their clothing assets can't be used by the player characters, even with a model swap.
      Not a huge fan of this change, since the charm of BGS games has always been that every NPC is "a normal NPC" and not just set dressing, but it's the exact same situation now so I don't think your argument applies here.

    • @louisalex98
      @louisalex98 Рік тому

      Even ubisoft make crowds more believable than cyberbug, i still have crowds dissapearing in full sight. In watch dogs Legion, for example, I never had that unnimersive issue.

  • @s.z.9517
    @s.z.9517 Рік тому +9

    And in RDR2, just staring at people would make them uncomfortable.

    • @John-996
      @John-996 Рік тому +2

      for 2 long You may get called a creep. RDR2 and Bully put many games to shame.

    • @bluemoon1716
      @bluemoon1716 Рік тому +1

      ​@@John-996only with open world elements. Rdr2 is still way behind in terms of mission and quest design as well as outdated combat

  • @kamikaze00007
    @kamikaze00007 Рік тому +174

    Can you please do a similar comparison but with Fallout 4 (un-modded) vs Starfield? I have a feeling we might see something interesting.

    • @agtl3168
      @agtl3168 Рік тому +8

      What that Starfield completely blows fallout 4 out of the water as an RPG?

    • @futanarilordkudo1879
      @futanarilordkudo1879 Рік тому +73

      @@agtl3168 Oh it Blows alright.
      Seriously though beating Fo4 at being a RPG is like beating snail in a 100 meter dash.

    • @anticorruptionagenda5106
      @anticorruptionagenda5106 Рік тому

      lol

    • @QueenMiracle46
      @QueenMiracle46 Рік тому +16

      @@agtl3168No, that Fallout 4 has better physics

    • @QueenMiracle46
      @QueenMiracle46 Рік тому

      @@futanarilordkudo1879This is just about ai and physics, not rpg elements.

  • @k1rb0i
    @k1rb0i Рік тому +24

    So in other words, we're all getting Phantom Liberty for Cyberpunk 2077 for only 24.99 ? It is half-price than Starfield AND you'll have an entirely reworked game to play with too !

    • @pandapancakes37
      @pandapancakes37 Рік тому +6

      Absolutely, ain't no way in hell I'm paying 70 buckos for shitfield😂

    • @vidicul9109
      @vidicul9109 Рік тому +1

      @@pandapancakes37you guys are so immature. I played the game, and personally I think it’s incredible and I love it. Just bc you think it looks bad doesn’t make it a bad game in general, many people are enjoying it.

    • @pandapancakes37
      @pandapancakes37 Рік тому +4

      @vidicul9109 good for you. Many people are also not enjoying it, so it's most like people have different opinions in real life. Wow, what a concept isn't that so weird🤣

    • @vidicul9109
      @vidicul9109 Рік тому +4

      @@pandapancakes37 okay yea your right. Everyone has an opinion, and I should respect that. My bad.

  • @ruvven3499
    @ruvven3499 8 місяців тому +1

    5:46 the Family Guy death pose of Cyberpunk

  • @A7XKoRnRocks1
    @A7XKoRnRocks1 Рік тому +47

    Not only all of this but Cyberpunk 2077 looks visually better, runs better and is just over all better in it's design.
    Starfield looks like a game from 2015 that has gotten several HD texture packs.

    • @ElderSnowball
      @ElderSnowball Рік тому +9

      Don’t forget cyberpunk took a whole 2 years to even be where it’s at. At least starfield didn’t come out broken with nothing to do🤷‍♂️

    • @Yeebles34
      @Yeebles34 Рік тому +1

      Do you realize the scales of the game are massively different? Right? If they tried to have that level of fidelity on a game this size, nobody would be able to run it smart one

    • @brooklynoob
      @brooklynoob Рік тому +8

      @@Yeebles34starfield’s size is just for show. Empty planets with borders. Cant fly to planets or fly our of planets. Its just fallout gameplay in cities/settlements with npcs that look like they are from the the xbox 360 era.

    • @Soulsharkyy
      @Soulsharkyy Рік тому

      @@ElderSnowball sooo... Starfield premiere has been delayed for a whole year... And still disappoints... Also except of water physics (aat least part of it) rest of shown actions were in Cyberpunk since start...

    • @Traxxynedit
      @Traxxynedit Рік тому +1

      ​@@brooklynoobcrybaby

  • @brotcon
    @brotcon Рік тому +38

    It seems Bethesda is really missing the SIMULATION aspect of the GAME.

    • @amysteriousviewer3772
      @amysteriousviewer3772 Рік тому +4

      "We realistically simulate the galaxy around you." - Todd Howard, Starfield Direct

    • @jacobtom9736
      @jacobtom9736 Рік тому +1

      @@amysteriousviewer3772 how do they lie so hard?

    • @hellenialori5466
      @hellenialori5466 Рік тому +1

      its like fallout 4 but with bigger map, worse storyline, and last gen graphics
      wait for TES VI if it fails too then i had no hope for bathesda

  • @beige_projection
    @beige_projection Рік тому +98

    Now this is a valid comparison video because both games being compared are RPGs. I've always disliked when RPGs are compared to sandbox games in terms of physics and AI because the sandbox game with around the same budget would always win as sandbox games would of course focus their resources on the physics as its their strong point whereas RPGs focus more on character builds, branching choices, story, etc.

    • @Yotamb9
      @Yotamb9 Рік тому +9

      TIL that comparing a game with years of updates to a brand new game is a valid comparison. How about you compare Cyberpunk at launch to Starfield?

    • @DrDracula-gb6ir
      @DrDracula-gb6ir Рік тому +1

      ​@@Yotamb9 mf didn't know that starfield didn't even launch ?!!!

    • @lekretka
      @lekretka Рік тому +20

      ​@@Yotamb9 I can compare new game with old game, and new game should be better in terms of graphics, gameplay or story. That's just common sense, hardware improves, tooling and engines become better, game budgets are now crazy, game prices are growing. Otherwise what's the point? Why would anyone play the game which isn't better or at least on level with existing games?
      If a game requires polishing and patching for a couple of years then why it was released now for full price when I can buy better more completed game which is a couple of years older?

    • @DrDracula-gb6ir
      @DrDracula-gb6ir Рік тому

      ​@@Yotamb9he just wanna starfield looks bad .. 😂 lol

    • @beige_projection
      @beige_projection Рік тому +20

      @@Yotamb9 I played Cyberpunk 2077 since day one and the NPCs in that game have always reacted when you threaten them. The only thing in this video that wasn't on CP77's day one launch was water physics. But NPCs reacting to you threatening them, no loading screens, realistic elevators, etc were all included in day one. Besides, like others said, Starfield is 3 years NEWER than CP77 so it SHOULD be better but as what's shown in the video, it's not.

  • @RandomComment-tr5ix
    @RandomComment-tr5ix Рік тому +12

    "Guard might get nervous, a man approaches with his weapon drawn"

  • @PotentialLegend
    @PotentialLegend Рік тому +15

    Remembering how Cyberpunk could have you go from your apartment to the elevator to the streets and any other building without any loading screens seems so impressive now... But GTA was also doing that 10 years ago. The space travel is so basic it could literally be a Fallout 4 mod! Just make custom maps that look like space and have the player fast travel to them then fast travel to a planet. That's literally no different to travel in any Bethesda game before.

  • @TheGabrielfaro
    @TheGabrielfaro Рік тому +42

    All these loading screens feels very ps3 era like. But it goes to show how ambitious cyberpunk was and why cdpr couldn't finish it in time. Starfield lacks a bit of elegance with its loadings... Showing a loading screen for an elevator ride breaks immersion so much

    • @IanB3rry
      @IanB3rry Рік тому +5

      Especially since it seemed like an issue they already fixed. In Fallout 4, many elevators were able to be ridden in without loading screens.

    • @nordic_leg_extension
      @nordic_leg_extension Рік тому +3

      Don’t forget the price of starfield, 70-100 for 2015 graphics and mass effect storyline but worse

  • @crakatinni
    @crakatinni Рік тому +80

    Starfield really made me appreciate cyberpunk 2077 so much 😂

  • @talacra
    @talacra Рік тому +77

    Proves that CDPR was actually on a rush according how Cyberpunk looked at the start. Bethesda is far bigger company than CDPR but still managed to make the most awful game of 2023. Kudos to Cyberpunk 2077 second biggest comeback after No Man's Sky!

    • @Traxxynedit
      @Traxxynedit Рік тому

      Crybaby

    • @Revoshock
      @Revoshock Рік тому +11

      Definitely agree with you that Cyberpunk has made a great comeback.

    • @holycrusader8738
      @holycrusader8738 Рік тому +13

      Most awful game💀you definitely havent played the damn game and its definitely much less buggy than whatever tf was cyberpunk at launch

    • @darylb889
      @darylb889 Рік тому +8

      Bethesda has around 1500 employees and CDPR has around 1300 so not that mich diffrence really..

    • @LordBathtub
      @LordBathtub Рік тому +5

      Play Cyberpunk in its release state and then tell me it was way better than Starfield. In what world is this comparison fair. Its like comparing Apex on release to Fortnite now 🤡

  • @cagneybillingsley2165
    @cagneybillingsley2165 Рік тому +65

    can't wait for the crowbcat video. i can't believe anyone would give this game a 10/10, even 8/10 is pushing it. ign unironically as being generous with their 7/10 and all the idjits went crazy over that

    • @dumbo-lv7jy
      @dumbo-lv7jy Рік тому +4

      lol your fault for setting up unreal expectations for yourself... smh

    • @fathiizzan
      @fathiizzan Рік тому +7

      It is easily 10/10 wdym lol

    • @otowa2299
      @otowa2299 Рік тому +8

      I think 7 is pretty much what it deserves from what I've played so far. It can feel excellent and look great, and sometimes evrything feel cumbersome and outdated. I don't understant 9 and 10 ratings for this game.

    • @SiPakRubah
      @SiPakRubah Рік тому +1

      Todd and the Sweet Little Lies part 2: Space Boogaloo

    • @dumbo-lv7jy
      @dumbo-lv7jy Рік тому

      @@SiPakRubah you think your so funny smh

  • @Tbaggrrr
    @Tbaggrrr Рік тому +19

    Why are games struggling with simple things that were in games lime Gta4 15 years ago?????
    like ai behaviour
    Ragdoll physics
    Shadow rendering
    Any physics.
    Like damn!!!! If games 20 years ago (halo 2) could manage decals (buller holes , explosions/burns, water physics, ragdoll physics,
    Lighting, NPC ai behaving appropriately, reacting appropriately
    . Why is it so hard to do now?

    • @beige_projection
      @beige_projection Рік тому +5

      Halo 2 and GTA aren't RPGs. RPGs focuses their resources more into character builds, branching choices, storyline, etc whereas sandbox and FPS games will focus more of their resources on physics and AI obviously.

    • @Tbaggrrr
      @Tbaggrrr Рік тому +4

      @@beige_projection ok fallout 3 came out in 2008. I'm pretty sure its an RPG . Has great ragdoll, and nice water physics. Along with plenty of RPG elements. Fallout 4 also 2014/15 was great. Now stfu kid.

    • @aaxel_dz
      @aaxel_dz Рік тому +11

      ⁠@@beige_projectionbrother that’s just cope. You just can’t have worse AI and physics than a 2001 game

    • @beige_projection
      @beige_projection Рік тому +2

      @@Tbaggrrr Fall Out 3 has great ragdoll? Lmao now I know you're just bullshiting, Fall Out 3 is the game that I played that normalized ugly rag doll for me in gaming.

    • @Tbaggrrr
      @Tbaggrrr Рік тому +5

      @@beige_projection better than starfield...... Atleast fallout has ragdoll. Wtf is starfield. And plus fallout wasn't HEAVILY focused on ragdoll and shooting. More looting, and exploration. But ok bub.

  • @naturewalkpod
    @naturewalkpod Рік тому +18

    CDPR at least has the excuse of being a smaller studio based out of Poland. Even when I played C77 when it came out, it didn’t really give me that many hassles.

  • @koniczka2000
    @koniczka2000 Рік тому +30

    The fire in Starfield looks so bad dude

    • @maboilaurence8227
      @maboilaurence8227 Рік тому

      Which is so weird considering the ships look objectively great, but the fire when they lift off just ruins the designer's work.

  • @williamunsworth933
    @williamunsworth933 Рік тому +22

    I feared this I knew the AI would be crap in starfield, Bethesda need to sort things out.❤

  • @rahularora301
    @rahularora301 Рік тому +26

    How did this game take 8 years to develop, the faces of NPCs look the same as fallout 4 too

    • @aaronvasseur6559
      @aaronvasseur6559 Рік тому +2

      No this games graphics is 100% improved why did it take 8 years they made over 1000 planets 100 plus quests tons of ships tons of weapons and armor and so many items in general Yh that’s why this game took so long the graphics are not the best but that’s because it’s a using the creation engine soon as Bethesda switch over there games are gonna look amazing

    • @jacksonpeds5298
      @jacksonpeds5298 Рік тому

      @CrayonEater2003 It took 8 years to find the biggest Kalergi abominations to mo-cap their faces for.

    • @Bearded-Bastard
      @Bearded-Bastard Рік тому +1

      Having to read the delusion of the ripped off consumers ####ridding Bethesda trying to justify their rubbish of product is absolute astonishing

  • @cunawarit
    @cunawarit Рік тому +26

    We've reached a point where graphics are undoubtedly phenomenal. The priority now really has to be AI to create more believable worlds, we haven't really progressed much if at all since Red Dead Redemption 2. We need to use AI much more extensively, to the point that NPCs should be powered by language models and be able to hold natural conversations with players.

    • @GameplayRunner
      @GameplayRunner Рік тому +3

      Yes. Since RDR2 nothing happened in the industry. That’s why iam hyped for GTA 6 not because of the story because of the AI.
      And just a sidenote:
      I think Starfield is a great game it delivers what i expected and I love it really !
      Cant stop playing it, it’s a good Bethesda game

    • @efxnews4776
      @efxnews4776 Рік тому +1

      @@GameplayRunner nothing happened in the industry, with big companies like EA, Blizzard, Bethesda, but in the indie industry theres a lot of development, just to begin with No Man's Sky was one of the first games who made this vast space expanses and seamless transitions to planets, things no game has done before in the scale of what NMS did, hell, Bioware tried that with ME Andromeda and failed.
      In space engeneers you have physics applied even to reentry on planet, your ship could suffer structural damage and start to burn and dismantle itself right in front of your eyes, sure the graphics aren't anywhere close to Bethesda graphics, but again, for a indie game.
      And obviously SpaceBourne 2, wich is a better Starfield wich is made by ONE guy, this may not look like a leap foward for the industry, but just by knowing a single guy can make a space game BETTER than Bethesda is a huge leap foward.
      In other words the problem is with this mentallity that a lot of gamers have wich is to expect quality ONLY for the giants of the industry, and then fill this companies with money while guys like DBK strugle to pays is bills while making a better game than Bethesda.
      That is the real problem, folks throwing money in the wrong places, while the real deal is happening underground.

    • @shumailazeeshan123
      @shumailazeeshan123 Рік тому +2

      I think rockatar themselves will not be able to cross the ai they created for rdr2 even after 5 ,6 years

    • @originalgaming1663
      @originalgaming1663 Рік тому +2

      And the gameplay still wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle...

  • @Zeemas
    @Zeemas Рік тому +2

    Cyberpunk 2077 launch day was a joke, but perhaps we were a little too harsh in hindsight...
    Good thing about Starfield is that it made me feel like playing Cyberpunk LOL so 2.0 dropped at the perfect time

  • @shiroshika1
    @shiroshika1 Рік тому +4

    *Laughs in Red Dead Redemption 2*

  • @giedmich
    @giedmich Рік тому +4

    i get that people like massive games, lots of options etc... but man you just can NOT ignore the JANK in starfield. Jesus, the dialogues, the animation...

  • @phananhviet6643
    @phananhviet6643 Рік тому +29

    Aside from Cyberpunk having more bugs, what did Starfield have over Cyberpunk at the time of its release? Let me tell you: The plot, the storytelling is much better, and so are the characters - that's CDPR's tradermark. Technically, Cyberpunk is also better than Starfield. There is no loading screen, with a much higher FPS than Starfield on PC, not to mention RT effects, which are absent in Starfield. Even Cyberpunk's character facial expressions are better than Starfield's brain-dead, blank-staring characters.

    • @emperorarasaka
      @emperorarasaka Рік тому +7

      Cyberpunk at launch with RTX ran almost as good as Starfield without RTX 🤔

    • @Miltmishyyy
      @Miltmishyyy Рік тому

      No, and starfield has Global iluminatiom IR, sk technically is as heavy as rtx.

    • @StefSubZero270
      @StefSubZero270 Рік тому

      ​@@emperorarasakaYou kidding right? Starfield runs on Fallout 4 engine and the graphics are def worse than Cyberpunk..

  • @foodrage117
    @foodrage117 Рік тому +17

    You need to make a new one when cyberpunk 2.0 goes out and the day one patch of SF.

    • @tommy.angelo2
      @tommy.angelo2 Рік тому

      Starfield has a day one patch on pre release version

    • @DrDracula-gb6ir
      @DrDracula-gb6ir Рік тому

      Mf didn't even wanna do that 😂 it's just for make starfield looking bad ! Wtf

    • @DrDracula-gb6ir
      @DrDracula-gb6ir Рік тому

      ​@@tommy.angelo2 that's not even a thing bro .. not even launched !!

    • @laravelanode
      @laravelanode Рік тому +1

      finally , we're getting out of early access

  • @willslick6837
    @willslick6837 Рік тому +7

    Glad you made this, thank you.

  • @franciscofredviana743
    @franciscofredviana743 3 місяці тому +1

    This still the main reason I stop playing Starfield. I can't accept this type of NPC on today's game. When they fix it I will come back to it

  • @mythcrafts
    @mythcrafts Рік тому +4

    I just can't wait for gta 6 where they will actually care about sandbox elements like ai reactions, weapon effects, pathing, and etc

    • @unkeptcross
      @unkeptcross Рік тому

      Not sure what you're expecting. Literally all of those things were dumbed down between GTA4 and 5.

    • @John-996
      @John-996 Рік тому

      ​@@unkeptcrossYes but looking at Leaks GTA6 looks loads better Its allot more like RDR2 and Bully.

  • @travisspazz1624
    @travisspazz1624 Рік тому +4

    Let's see if the Cyberpunk redemption arc continues with the DLC!

  • @claydavis8924
    @claydavis8924 Рік тому +6

    the gaming community tore Mass Effect Andromeda a new asshole (deservedly so) but we letting Starfield off the hook? look at those face.. everything in the world looks so bland and early ps4 era looking..The Outer worlds that came out in 2019 was made by a 70 man dev team and looks better than this.. unbelieveable

    • @TheMarcHicks
      @TheMarcHicks Рік тому

      Which is probably an even better comparison than CP2077, IMHO. Outer Worlds was a much better looking game, with superior AI & a more compelling story.

  • @koniczka2000
    @koniczka2000 Рік тому +11

    Your Starfield character looks funny af 😂👌

  • @brebgm2387
    @brebgm2387 Рік тому +4

    Cyberpunk is very good game now, after the uptades the game is much better now 10/10, this next dlc and the free update will revolutionize the game again

  • @Whispers_of_Madness
    @Whispers_of_Madness Рік тому +2

    Just wait when Phantom Liberty comes out along with the new update 2.0 for Cyberpunk 2077. I am way more hyped for Cyberpunk.

  • @sheriefkamel2097
    @sheriefkamel2097 Рік тому +37

    No one till now can beat rockstar

    • @e.777.r2
      @e.777.r2 Рік тому

      Theyre gameplay is boring as fuck though, worst shooting mechanics in a AAA game.

    • @MINI-MOI4321
      @MINI-MOI4321 Рік тому +5

      It's normal rockstar put 8 years for development a new game with 2000 peoples and they work 80 hours per weeks

    • @beige_projection
      @beige_projection Рік тому +10

      Rockstar don't make RPGs. Starfield and Cyberpunk are both RPGs, so their resources are more focused on the RPG elements, whereas sandbox games' resources would of course be more focused on physics and AI as they don't need to worry much about different character builds, branching choices, etc

    • @SebaFuentes
      @SebaFuentes Рік тому +10

      From software > all

    • @aaxel_dz
      @aaxel_dz Рік тому

      Rockstar is just the best

  • @xxsmokerxx6477
    @xxsmokerxx6477 Рік тому +1

    Starfield is a loading screen simulator

  • @mefidrimu
    @mefidrimu Рік тому +3

    bethesda just made the 2013 game in 2023💀

    • @namgunaucao9771
      @namgunaucao9771 Рік тому +1

      bro gtav 2013 much better physics and ai

    • @shumailazeeshan123
      @shumailazeeshan123 Рік тому

      ​@@namgunaucao9771gta4 has better physics than starfeild the least they could do was to borrow the engine from rockstar

    • @namgunaucao9771
      @namgunaucao9771 Рік тому

      @@shumailazeeshan123 yeah R* engine is so good. nice ragdoll physics, great drawdistance, not to much pop-up in far distance, graphics is good too. hard to see pop-up and NPCs spawn in rdr2 is crazy. i play tw3 next gen, cp2077, asscreed games and many openworld games...... the Pop-up in far distance is like shit man, The NPCs pop up in tw3 and cp2077 is shit....

  • @efxnews4776
    @efxnews4776 Рік тому +1

    Another point here is that shoting civilians in CP77 doesn't grant folks with dismemberments, if you want dismemberments you need to go after enemies that NOT always are active, like you can cross with some of the gangs and as long as you don't pull your gun on them they will leave you alone.

  • @theV2077
    @theV2077 Рік тому +32

    Cyberpunk Wins: 10x0

    • @dumbo-lv7jy
      @dumbo-lv7jy Рік тому +1

      your youtube loses 0x10

    • @pixeljauntvr7774
      @pixeljauntvr7774 Рік тому +3

      ​@@dumbo-lv7jyYou're simping for a game that compares worse than one of the biggest trainwrecks for a video game launch in history.

    • @TheMarcHicks
      @TheMarcHicks Рік тому

      @@dumbo-lv7jy Oh look, everyone, we found us a Todd Howard simp. What's it like being in a cult, dude?

    • @FaZeloffOfGlizzywood
      @FaZeloffOfGlizzywood Рік тому +1

      @@pixeljauntvr7774 starfield had the worst launch? Dude are you for real 😭

    • @DrDracula-gb6ir
      @DrDracula-gb6ir Рік тому

      ​@@FaZeloffOfGlizzywoodmfs forgot what cyperbugs is 😂 ! I am sure that Starfield gonna solved all this just in 2 weeks .

  • @tobecontinued436
    @tobecontinued436 Рік тому +1

    Okay, now show Cyberpunk 2077 on release day vs Starfield on release day.

  • @stolenname94
    @stolenname94 Рік тому +5

    Ill give Bethesda this, the creation engine has never looked better, especially the facial animations. There is alot more to get stuck into with starfield and it think thats where it will excel. However cyberpunk is gorgeous and performance is much more stable (yes im really talking about cyberpunk) and the world itself is extremely immersive. I think they are both very different for comparison, and i felt the same way when i tried to compare the witcher 3 to skyrim and even botw. Each of these games tackles different things and approaches mechanics of an rpg in a various other ways. Ive played 5 hours of starfield so far and depsite a few gripes im enjoying immensely. It really does feel immersive imo and i enjoy the freedoom it has to offer. Ill be revisiting night city soon to try its newest update, but until then starfield has me addicted.

  • @cjrstudios4100
    @cjrstudios4100 Рік тому +1

    Comparing starfield to cyberpunk 2077 is like comparing the crew 1 to the crew 2

    • @cjrstudios4100
      @cjrstudios4100 Рік тому +2

      @@I_Vented are you comparing launch 2077 or updated 2077?

    • @cjrstudios4100
      @cjrstudios4100 Рік тому +2

      @@I_Vented lol thats cool and all bro but im enjoying the hell out of starfield

    • @shumailazeeshan123
      @shumailazeeshan123 Рік тому

      Both are rpgs so😮

  • @soppingclam
    @soppingclam Рік тому +17

    Considering my RTX 4080 and i7-12700k plays Cyberpunk @ 4k with everything totally maxed out and is truly stunning. Heck my old man saw it and was mesmerised.. Last time that happened with a computer game was Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 and Captain Comic from 87/88 when trying out his new 286

    • @kreitous8396
      @kreitous8396 Рік тому +1

      But no diss ur 4080 can’t run starfiled 4K 60FPS 😂

    • @KaneMeadowsGaming
      @KaneMeadowsGaming Рік тому

      You're surprised that the most powerful $1.5k GPU can run Cyberpunk on those settings? lol ok

    • @knell18897
      @knell18897 Рік тому +1

      @@KaneMeadowsGaming No, he is probably more surprised that his setting can't run starfield at half the fps and look half as good compare to cyberpunk.

  • @amona.1481
    @amona.1481 Рік тому +1

    0:43 WTF ahaha Well Bethesda , you know what you have to do now , a big update , just like Cyberpunk...

  • @NotSoFancyGames
    @NotSoFancyGames Рік тому +5

    Cyberpunk is certainly not the gold standard but this sure makes me appreciate it more.

  • @BrobjeV
    @BrobjeV 11 місяців тому

    About "Cuberpunk has no loading screens" reality check, it has, the quest with River where you go back to Chubby Buffalo to confront Han if you skip the ride.

  • @TheAlyeid
    @TheAlyeid Рік тому +22

    This is the first video I’ve seen where I can honestly say I see what you mean. I’ve played Starfield for a while now and I haven’t tried ANY of those things. The Ai could definitely need some work. Other than that I think it’s pretty good overall.

  • @zeedude8026
    @zeedude8026 Рік тому +2

    Omfg.. this literally makes starfield look like a last gen game when compared to starfield. Makes you wonder why tf it’s only on the new Xbox consoles when it’s no different than fallout 4.

  • @shadeart7
    @shadeart7 Рік тому +13

    Wow I’m actually surprised just about over a year ago the bugs in cyberpunk made it complete trash at times now with the improvements it’s looking like an actual next gen compared to Starfield hopefully they’ll continue to improve on starfield to get it up to speed I’m sure they will

    • @mohduk4
      @mohduk4 Рік тому +2

      While starfield is trash but cyberpunk released in 2020

    • @talacra
      @talacra Рік тому +11

      @@mohduk4 yeah despite Bethesda keep telling us about the greatest space Odyssey ever and telling us how "free" this game is (you only able to see loading screens everywhere). While CP2077 was a good game, not on consoles but it looked promising and had lots of features and interesting gameplay mechanics unlike Starfield that has absolutely nothing new and interesting. Morrowind animation, facade space and shitty quests.

    • @ssss-e2m8s
      @ssss-e2m8s Рік тому

      starfield and cyberbug bullshit AI STUPID and no natutal movement

    • @starcultiniser
      @starcultiniser Рік тому +2

      @@talacra yeah, what a massive disappointment, I'm so confused on how it has gotten such positive reviews on steam.

    • @talacra
      @talacra Рік тому +8

      @@starcultiniser because everyone nowadays has low standards and ready to consume more unfinished projects. They see those videos with bugs and say "ohh so cute that's definitely Bethesda". Ain't no way this game was under development for 7 years

  • @EatWave
    @EatWave Рік тому +2

    Fallout NPCs respond to weapons being held on them so, is that a glitch, a feature missing at launch or regression in design?

    • @amysteriousviewer3772
      @amysteriousviewer3772 Рік тому +5

      NPCs in Starfield don't have schedules either. A staple of Bethesda games since Oblivion.

    • @AhmadWahelsa
      @AhmadWahelsa Рік тому

      @@amysteriousviewer3772 Somehow reminds me of CDPR aswell, NPCs in Velen, Novigrad, Skellige, and Toussaint has several schledule between time of day, weather condition, and quests completions, shops will be closed at night for example, it was downgraded in CP77, but one feature which is weather condition has returned at patch 1.5 with NPCs using umbrellas

  • @XyzgorYT
    @XyzgorYT Рік тому +29

    Starfield is definitely a game of this year, no doubt about it.

    • @zoomless1521
      @zoomless1521 Рік тому +1

      Peak delusion

    • @ieatgluesoyoudonthaveto
      @ieatgluesoyoudonthaveto Рік тому +16

      @@zoomless1521Peak not understanding a joke

    • @utisti4976
      @utisti4976 Рік тому +3

      Hahaha

    • @TheMarcHicks
      @TheMarcHicks Рік тому +5

      @@zoomless1521 He is literally correct. It is a game that was released this year.....and that is its only real claim to fame 😆

    • @Rulancer1
      @Rulancer1 Рік тому +1

      ​@@zoomless1521poor reading comprehension or no sense of humor, which is it?

  • @RudalPL
    @RudalPL Рік тому +1

    While I'm not defending Starfield I have to point out.
    Starfield is made to be able to run on potato consoles while Cyberpunk was falsely advertised that it will run on potato consoles while it shouldn't.
    Cyberpunk is just one city and Starfield tries to be the grand adventure across the universe thing.

    • @greenbrickbox3392
      @greenbrickbox3392 Рік тому

      Also this is cyberpunk after 2 years of patches. Cyberpunk was launched in an unplayable state and forced to get taken off of PS store for PS4 and its crowd AI was even worse than Starfield's.

    • @RudalPL
      @RudalPL Рік тому

      @@greenbrickbox3392 I wouldn't say it was unplayable, it run ok on PC, but yes, the crowd AI was funny. 😆

  • @aperezdeal
    @aperezdeal Рік тому +17

    I really like both games but lets remember that Cyberpunk has been heavily patched and these immersive elements just weren’t present at launch. For a bethesda game it’s probably the cleanest launch ever. I’m only 20 hrs in but so far no bugs which is surprising.

    • @i.d.6492
      @i.d.6492 Рік тому +15

      He's not showing bugs or glitches, he's showing game mechanics

    • @S-treme
      @S-treme Рік тому +4

      @@i.d.6492 to be half the things that is coparing cyberpunk to starfield din t exist in the release

    • @aperezdeal
      @aperezdeal Рік тому

      And as I stated the cyberpunk mechanics presented were not available at launch. As much as the state of AAA can and should improve Starfield is Bethesda’s best effort yet. From game play, to mechanics, to perks characters and design this is a big step forward for them, a natural evolution that I wasn’t expecting. It’s a better bethesda game from bethesda.

    • @i.d.6492
      @i.d.6492 Рік тому +1

      @@aperezdeal I see nothing groundbreaking, many games that came out long time ago like rdr2 does it much better

    • @beige_projection
      @beige_projection Рік тому +10

      Yes it's been heavily patched, but the NPCs reacting to you pointing a gun at them have always been there since launch. There's always been little to no loading screens in Night City. The only thing that was shown in this video that weren't in CP77 during launch was the water physics.

  • @kiekeyz
    @kiekeyz Рік тому +1

    Now do a comparison between starfield and Cyberpunk at Launch lol. I remember when all these vides were about GTAV vs Cyberpunk lol. Love it.

    • @ChiTownMyTown
      @ChiTownMyTown Рік тому

      Three years later and companies still releasing half made games?

  • @spike1269
    @spike1269 Рік тому +3

    Starfield is a real RPG, unlike Cyberpunk. Consider that Cyberpunk 2077, the game about corrupt megacorporations, with a corpo lifepath, does not let you actually roleplay as a corporate agent, but Starfield does.

    • @sillylittlesheepjax6009
      @sillylittlesheepjax6009 Рік тому +3

      starfield is boring af, cyberpunk combat just wins this easily

    • @spike1269
      @spike1269 Рік тому +2

      @@sillylittlesheepjax6009 RPGs are about much more than combat. Starfield gives the player plenty of roleplaying opportunities, Cyberpunk does not.

    • @sillylittlesheepjax6009
      @sillylittlesheepjax6009 Рік тому +2

      @@spike1269 YRS IT DOES, i can be angry or friendly at FKN KEANU REEVES, enough said GOTY

    • @RitwickRazur89
      @RitwickRazur89 Рік тому

      sure jan@@sillylittlesheepjax6009

  • @That__Guy
    @That__Guy 5 місяців тому

    Starfield NPC: Oh, a grenade exploded in front of me and I am on fire now. Better go for a light jog.

  • @Chief_Eagle_Dropping
    @Chief_Eagle_Dropping Рік тому +3

    I plan on playing Starfield...BUT, I bought CP2077 on release day, tried to play it, got disappointed and uninstalled. I will do Phantom Liberty first, waiting 2-3 months on Starfield will let them iron out a few things.

  • @youreright7534
    @youreright7534 Рік тому +1

    Starfield feels like the outer worlds and cyberpunk had a baby, and I love both

  • @Dataleak726
    @Dataleak726 Рік тому +14

    Cyberpunk looks like a masterpiece compared to Starfield

    • @Anonymouthful
      @Anonymouthful Рік тому +1

      Bethesda managing to lower the bar for what counts as "good enough" is never to be questioned.

  • @kaushalsuvarna5156
    @kaushalsuvarna5156 Рік тому +1

    Funny to see Cyberpunk on the other side

  • @walker1583
    @walker1583 Рік тому +3

    The comparison would be more fair if done with both games at release day. Cyberpunk 2077 has improved allot over the years and while I'm enjoying Starfield currently there is much to be improved and am sure much will!

  • @OrRaino
    @OrRaino Рік тому +1

    People saying "Cyberpunk at start was broken and Starfield isn't and that's a plus" that's the worst part, Since that means there is zero hope that it will get better.

  • @JynRoh
    @JynRoh Рік тому +2

    Outside of graphics they both seem like games stuck in 2009, shit water wise both are sub 2009

    • @beige_projection
      @beige_projection Рік тому

      Because you're comparing them to sandbox or fps games. Can you name a 2009 RPG game that have better water physics?

  • @zaex3778
    @zaex3778 Рік тому +2

    Can you make video cyberpunk version 1.0 vs starfield ? That would be more interest to watch

  • @bignerd5529
    @bignerd5529 Рік тому +21

    Might be a hot take but this isn't a bad thing because it shows that no matter how fucked CP2077 was at launch, it bounced back and is doing fine now, which means Starfield will be better with updates. It's disappointing we have to rely on patches when it shouldn't have been a problem in the first place though

    • @JoeMama-tn6mg
      @JoeMama-tn6mg Рік тому +3

      In the Future we might need to pay extra for a Game with minimal amount of Bugs and functioning ai.

    • @luquita1504
      @luquita1504 Рік тому

      slave mentality

    • @zeedude8026
      @zeedude8026 Рік тому +9

      Brother I’m not sure that mentality is valid anymore. Forspoken never got fixed, Jedi survivor was left to rot and till this day runs like garbage on pc. Immortals of aveum is guaranteed to be abandoned as that game literally never cracked 1000 players DAY ONE, understandably as literally no one can run it unless you own a 4090. We’ve gotten to a point where not only pc ports are more unoptimized than ever but there is a good chance the devs will shrug thier shoulders and move on without ever patching the game.

    • @PsycosisIncarnated
      @PsycosisIncarnated Рік тому

      keep huffing that copium. the developers just love selling you cucks unfinished games. you pay top notch prices for unfinished products. hilarious.

    • @WolverineBatman
      @WolverineBatman Рік тому +21

      The difference is that CDPR's problems aren't called "charming." Bethesda's jank is excused by fanboys and fixed by modders, so I'll be surprised if Bethesda fixes these issues on their own.

  • @sharaths2294
    @sharaths2294 Рік тому +2

    i can believe i would say cyberpuck looks so good now..

  • @CramcrumBrewbringer
    @CramcrumBrewbringer Рік тому +3

    Compare it to cyberpunk v.1 😂😂😂

  • @buddyzf
    @buddyzf Рік тому +2

    now compare character dialogue, combat and exploration between Starfield and Cyberpunk.

    • @dogdie147
      @dogdie147 Рік тому

      I haven’t played SF yet but CP77 is pretty hard to beat when comparing the sound design, writing, world building (ie clothes and shit)

    • @starcultiniser
      @starcultiniser Рік тому

      from playing both games, cyberpunk is much better in this regard.

  • @Travel-Adv
    @Travel-Adv Рік тому +3

    You see this is what I don’t like about Starfield; it’s so immersion breaking because of Bethesdas reliance on loading screens and quick travels that makes them seem lazy compared to Cyberpunk 2077, they even pop up a window to choose a floor when using an elevator….

    • @lclevivadakushan3778
      @lclevivadakushan3778 Рік тому +2

      @CrayonEater2003 Name fits

    • @PsycosisIncarnated
      @PsycosisIncarnated Рік тому

      @CrayonEater2003 nah you are truly a crayon eater. You probably love watching loading screen after loading screen. Its not like you have the mental capacity and IQ to get bored by this anyhow. You’re entertained by the most boring menial tasks.

    • @lclevivadakushan3778
      @lclevivadakushan3778 Рік тому +2

      @CrayonEater2003 I am not here to argue with someone who makes dumb points without looking at the bigger picture. You get what you plant.

  • @Nigmond
    @Nigmond Рік тому +2

    Guys, let's not forget that when Cyberpunk 2077 came out it was literally unplayable garbage of a game with disasterous level of lacking quality and even CD Project RED got sued by Polish government. I think that Starfield deserves a second chance, also lets note that lots of Bethesda Softworks games aren't good without mods. I personally hated Skyrim because of it's buggines, robotic player and ai animations, but when I installed loads of mods on Skyrim: Special Edition (the best Skyrim version, with tons of great mods) I had the best gaming experience that I could never have in any other RPG game and still now I'm thinking about reinstalling it, same goes for Fall Out 4, the base game is unoptimized and sometimes I had microstutters even though my PC specs were greatly compatible to have perfect 60fps experience, weapon animations weren't satisfying, lack of some weapons which were present in previous installments. But with mods I turned Fallout 4 into true next-gen highly detailed game. I was also thinking that it's to early for big project like Starfield to come out, but let's embrace with patience and hope for good.

    • @shumailazeeshan123
      @shumailazeeshan123 Рік тому

      So you are saying that games should be out in bad state and modders should improve it 😮

    • @Nigmond
      @Nigmond Рік тому +1

      @@shumailazeeshan123 What I'm trying to say is to give both to a game and Bethesda second chance, that's all, I didn't mention or even trying to say that it's okay to release product with lots of tecnical issues, that would be absolutely ridiculous thing to say. First things first Bethesda should have proper apology for this failure. promise to fix the game to decent and even more greater state and what's important keep their promise.

    • @greenbrickbox3392
      @greenbrickbox3392 Рік тому

      ​@@shumailazeeshan123Starfield technically is running fine unlike Cyberpunk which was unfinished at launch. It plays like Fallout 4 in space so if you like janky Bethesda RPGs with good quests you'll probably like it. If you think the game will be No Man's Sky you'll hate it.

  • @NN-jp7ei
    @NN-jp7ei Рік тому +3

    cyberpunk has been fixed and this will be fixed

    • @miguellopez3392
      @miguellopez3392 Рік тому +1

      Bethesda has a reputation of not doing that.

  • @noobdebusca1757
    @noobdebusca1757 Рік тому +2

    Keep doing those videos, Its awesome

  • @emunzio2258
    @emunzio2258 Рік тому +3

    Starfield never promised to be a "real life simulator with the most realistic city ever created in a videogame" and Cyberpunk has kept the word after 2 years. Starfield is something else

  • @reapthewhirlwind6915
    @reapthewhirlwind6915 Рік тому

    Its crazy people are actually forgetting cyberpunk is a linear interactive movie and not a roleplaying game not even at all in the same caliber or masterwork as starfield.

  • @JazzzRockFuzion
    @JazzzRockFuzion Рік тому +6

    How about a comparison between 2020 Cyberpunk 2077 and Starfield? It took *two and a half years* for CDPR to get that game from the dumpster fire it was to where it is now. Meanwhile, Starfield is a stable, smooth, glitch-free experience, Day 1.
    Guaranteed that 98% of the commenters here are just hate-mongers and Ponys who’ve never actually played Starfield. 🙄 Moving on…

  • @GameplayRunner
    @GameplayRunner Рік тому +1

    I don’t wanna even start to write everything down why STARFIELD is amazing… but ok. I guess the minority here is against Starfield so I don’t wanna start a war.
    For me Starfield is amazing!
    I got a 4090 and I love playing cyberpunk.
    But Starfield is really a good Bethesda game.
    It tells so many stories… I played 30 hours now and if I compare my story to his experience it’s totally different
    And I don’t even was in akila city or neon
    But Mars is really cool !!!
    Even the miners outside of mars change their shifts.
    4 goes inside and start working out or start to eat something the other 4 going out and start working.
    And if there is a sandstorm coming they all go inside