PSO2 NGS theories - What is this city?

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  • So if you recall in the December headline, SEGA gave us a teaser of the new field area coming in June. This has some rather interesting implications. Just what could this new area be?
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  • @Oishimaru
    @Oishimaru 6 місяців тому +14

    SPOILER WARNING
    Well, since AKRS Ship Residential Areas have Artificial Skies, I think the new field could still be underneath either Central City or Lost Central. Lore has so far implied the the first generations of "Clone" ARKS had access to way more technology than latest generation after all.
    Retem City on the other hand, seems to have its "hub" inside what would seem to be an Old ARKS Ship.... So we could very well be going under Retem City as well (Part of the Lore about old Halpha Technology is imparted when inquiring about big metallic rings in Retem after all!)
    One Theory that I have been hearing is that Main Cities may in fact be ARSK Ships themselves. This would kinda be neat because it would mean we could probably move Central City around to travel to other planets while maintaining the same hub.
    Or, better yet, what's even under Halphia Lake? we traveled to Leciel, but we haven't yet deciphered the mystery behind it.
    The other theory is indeed the "Space Station" where 909 came from, of course.
    And this one is my weird theory: What if we find a version of Clarissa inside of Leciel and we are either a. Taken to the past and witness the incident where starless attacked Oracle or b. Similar to a, but just sort of a simulation where we can see what happened
    Finally, we just somehow come into contact with remnants of the Oracle Fleet, and find ourselves inside of an ARKS Ship being attacked by Starless.
    But well, this is just me throwing some wild speculation.
    :v

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +3

      The writers will probably find some way to screw it up - unless they have someone else in charge of that now.

    • @Oishimaru
      @Oishimaru 6 місяців тому

      @@Zeomantic Well if you mean this taking Chapter 6 as an example, I would tend to agree :v However we can be cautiously optimistic about it. Ch. 6 imo was just a filler arc meant to buy time (or at least they made it seem like that lol). It kinda backfired a bit but well, it's not impossible for new field related story to be decent :v guess we will see what happens.
      I think we should provide lots of feedback regarding story so far to see if they can improve things along the way.

    • @cookx84
      @cookx84 6 місяців тому +1

      Very nice, specially your theory with the attack on Oracle. Sounds Fire 🔥

    • @AdoraTheBerserker
      @AdoraTheBerserker 2 місяці тому

      909 comes from Leciel, we're basically Zephetto's perfect recreation of ARKS Defender Prime. There was that room in Leciel with a bunch of person-sized tubes, and the glass was foggy, but there was a display on the side that showed a picture of Ash and his "vitals" (i don't know how to describe it), But we're basically a clone of our PSO2 self. Only some Meteorn come from outside Halpha,, we however come from Leciel

    • @Oishimaru
      @Oishimaru 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AdoraTheBerserker If you actually follow one of the mini-episodes where you talk with Dozer about the subject, 909 actually comes from outside of Leciel. I will probably rewatch it to make sure though.

  • @DR4kH1N
    @DR4kH1N 6 місяців тому +9

    It's either a satellite, a moon, or a ship like base game for sure.
    The reason we go there? We will have first contact with the mainstream ARKS and they will be under attack. As we're the only section of ARKS actually prepared to deal with starless this will prompt that first contact with Halpha.
    It really is THE chance for them to actually make out a story out of this mess, it's been a long 2 year wait for it. Hopefully we get a meeting with the higher ups at the ARKS main fleet "a la" episode 6 to get enough of a lore dump and its not just "go here and smack starless lmao"

    • @Karma20XX
      @Karma20XX 6 місяців тому

      I thought all the older ARKS died?? Although I do wonder what happened to all the normal residents...

    • @DR4kH1N
      @DR4kH1N 6 місяців тому

      @@Karma20XX there’s no way zephetto didn’t have anyone higher up than him. I believe they did say 700 m people died but it was 500 years ago?

    • @WingsOfDust55
      @WingsOfDust55 6 місяців тому

      ​@@DR4kH1N He's stated to be the entire reason behind why Resurgent ARKS even came to be, and by the time the Starless first appeared ARKS as we knew it was only stuff of legends and myths, the organisation is basically defunct because of the 5 centuries of peace

    • @theoaremevano3227
      @theoaremevano3227 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Karma20XX : Zephetto describes his zeal as being driven by the relative passivity of the surviving ARKS, who had largely de-militarized the use of Photons and wanted to believe the Starless would not return after their sudden disappearance. It suggests they not only had surviving ships/colonies, but possibly enough to not totally panic in the wake of the attack. The billions killed by the Starless didn't exclusively include ARKS, but also many other inhabited planets in the outer reaches of colonized space.

    • @zeehero7280
      @zeehero7280 27 днів тому

      @@Karma20XX Zhephetto said most died, but not all.

  • @silo1991
    @silo1991 6 місяців тому +2

    my theory its , we will find in Lost Central Blueprints to build campships and finally leave Halpha , in Leciel we comunicate with other Arks colonies that are under attack and we are the only one who are ready to defend them , but we only gain time for the colonies to evacuate the planets.
    and deep down in we activate the planetary motors and turn Halpha into a nomad planet serving as a refuge for other colonies.

  • @carbodude5414
    @carbodude5414 6 місяців тому +2

    Gonna feel great to explore an Oracle fleet city with NGS' movement

  • @zeehero7280
    @zeehero7280 27 днів тому +1

    My theory is the giant Clarissa thing is a monument. The Nameless City is on an ARKS ship or something like it, and the Clarissa looking model is some kind of memorial to remember the heroism of ARKS past or something. Clarissa was very important to the story after all I could see Matoi's weapon becoming something of a symbol. Our PC is the only one who might be more famous but since our weapon of choice is variable, it's easier to use one from an NPC.

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  27 днів тому

      Monument? I could believe that.

  • @basilhazelmusic5403
    @basilhazelmusic5403 6 місяців тому +8

    Trying not to get my hopes up too much, but imagine if one of the Oracle fleet ships crashed onto halpha a long time ago, (Which would explain why Retem City is built inside what looks like a giant rocket thruster) and we're finally beginning to discover the rest of the ship? This would explain why there's still DOLLS and Starless to fight, since we haven't fully left the planet yet, and could even lead into how we get to space if we're able to get the crashed ship up and running again!

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +1

      Interesting angle

    • @stinopharan5528
      @stinopharan5528 6 місяців тому

      Loved the idea

    • @WingsOfDust55
      @WingsOfDust55 6 місяців тому

      I think the issue of it being a crashed spaceship conflicts with Halpha being an experiment and the fact that the place looks too pristine, crash landing would have shown signs of damage in some form or another

  • @WingsOfDust55
    @WingsOfDust55 6 місяців тому +2

    Honestly I think this could be the space station Dozer mentioned the Meteorns come from, more than Gaira. At least that's what I assume since they kinda dropped it out of nowhere. As for Solus, I doubt it will ever be addressed in any capacity, and it will get the Magatsu treatment of just existing for the sake of it.

  • @theoaremevano3227
    @theoaremevano3227 6 місяців тому +1

    We've seen a few control system/computers in NGS that resemble oracle-like features. The control consoles in Crawford's command center and the smaller ones at the quest counters all have a small globe with fish swimming around it, almost as if they somehow replicated Xion on a vastly smaller scale.
    The Clarissa also had a connection to Xion, which was remote, meaning that giant core could potentially serve the purpose of long-distance communication with either Xiao or an A.I./HiCast of some kind that was made to be a replica of Xiao's capabilities, like Xiera.

  • @RatikusuCh
    @RatikusuCh 6 місяців тому +2

    We also need to consider why Halpha was constructed so close to another celestial body. That I believe is the elephant in the room we must address.

  • @PhyrraFaefiel
    @PhyrraFaefiel 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm of the mind presuming that this massive city being powered? by a giant Clarissa? is the underground haven for the surviving humanity who cannot fight the threats on the surface. And that's now being breached because story remembers there's more on Halpha and the threats aren't dealt with at all. As much as I would want to leave this damn planet already, I dont think NGS will get to even the moons above with the limited budget this team is being given compared to every other unit at SEGA.

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +1

      Given the extreme case of red-headed stepchild syndrome this game seems to suffer from, you could be right since it's not Sonic, Yakuza, or Persona.

    • @PhyrraFaefiel
      @PhyrraFaefiel 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Zeomantic On God I wouldn't even care at this point if the Phantasy Star team is merged under the greater sonic team or RGG, they could make some serious experimental shifts for the IP; and Atlus at the very least if given the push from higher up, could have the EO team remake the Genesis PS games very crisp and cleanly

  • @drakologarnus7248
    @drakologarnus7248 6 місяців тому +2

    that giant object with the floating bits reminds me of clarissa also, might be a XAIO version

  • @nowgoawayanddosomethinggoo8978
    @nowgoawayanddosomethinggoo8978 6 місяців тому +1

    "what are dolls and starless doing in an arks ship?"
    chaotic silence

  • @wandererchannel9953
    @wandererchannel9953 6 місяців тому

    Very noice theories you have and I am very interested in this new city. I can't wait to see it when it released!

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! Same here!

  • @HKaito
    @HKaito 6 місяців тому +1

    Since leciel tower have teleportation technology there a huge chance that yes we can be ported into oracle ship that was hidden on Halpha system .

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому

      Yeah I could definitely see that.

    • @HKaito
      @HKaito 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Zeomantic after full night sleep there one more thing i forgot what Zepetto its capable of...The city could be a huge simulator trying to figure out how did Clarissa work from the past WHICH i come this theory that they are trying to open Akashic record again.

  • @Knightswords
    @Knightswords 6 місяців тому

    I'm thinking the "Clarissa" is outside of the dome city and may be the back side of Gaira. With it being between Halpha and what we assume is a fleet ship. In regards to possible fleet ship, it's been teased since day one with monitors in Central's command ops, so I don't think it will not be a ship.

  • @thestrunzy5585
    @thestrunzy5585 6 місяців тому +1

    My thought is starless is doing something with dimensional rifts, how how in base game we got the Alter space rifts sometimes after clearing a mission in base, My guess given the nature of the records the reason the staff and the city from 1500 years ago has shown up is its it melting space time and memories from the old guardian. I have a strong feeling given we an gen 3 clone and 1500 years ago the other guardian (us) was also a gen 3 clone we have a deeper connection. Now most likely we all overthinking this way more then Sega has put any thought into.
    but now the girls seem to be in a better mental state and the 4 regions beside the starless threat seem more in control I think its time for 909 Issues to start showing up kinda mirror back with Luther at the end of ep2 began to mess with us

  • @kalonem5719
    @kalonem5719 6 місяців тому

    Fam that background music Silent palace premium edition great taste!! 😊

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +1

      You already know!

  • @SleeperFantasy
    @SleeperFantasy 6 місяців тому +1

    It does I wouldn't be surprised if it was a photoner creation and it does look like clarissa

  • @zenzen9863
    @zenzen9863 6 місяців тому

    Bro can read oracle alphabet and distinguished them !!!±±
    Come on this our Lore Master ZEO !!!!!
    😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Drakaina_Tohru
    @Drakaina_Tohru 6 місяців тому

    I don't remember where Gaira Mentioned but it sounds interesting, but I can't wait to explore the new place, why I think it looks looks like the weapon is to pay respect and tribute, I also can't wait to see what is the upper limit to where I can and can't go in that facility.
    What about you though

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +1

      Gaira came up during one of the previous seasonal events, as well as some other places IIRC.

  • @Karma20XX
    @Karma20XX 6 місяців тому

    I immediately thought it looked like the oracle residential area, so glad I'm not alone. My guess it's another area entirely we're going to? It seems like Laciel had transporter technology and maybe can do more things we're not aware of.

    • @jgkitarel
      @jgkitarel 6 місяців тому

      It's heavily implied to be the case.

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому

      It is definitely implied to be the case. You are not alone there my friend!

  • @ducontra666999
    @ducontra666999 2 місяці тому

    my brain: the entire Halpha is build around an archship

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  2 місяці тому

      Could be, and the whole "uninhabitable area beyond the barriers" thing could just be a cover story.

  • @GXtera
    @GXtera 6 місяців тому

    if its not inside leciel then it just begs more questions. what is inside leciel? the inner core of that thing is huge, even when were at the tip bottom of it in leciel mode the skybox is huge so imagine the core. it could house a city for sure. original concept art also shows leciel as a ship so it could eventually transform. it just makes no sense for the city to be anywhere else when leciel is sitting right there unused with still so many questions about it unanswered.

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому

      Yeah it definitely opens the door to more questions.

  • @youngecujoh855
    @youngecujoh855 6 місяців тому +1

    This could be where they trained pther iterations of the current clone.

  • @KudaGeatsune3821
    @KudaGeatsune3821 6 місяців тому +1

    the starless ravage halpha and we're time travelled to the time of the 1st gen halphan ARKS to warn them of the starless welll ahead of time marking the true beginning of the Halpha arks story

    • @drakologarnus7248
      @drakologarnus7248 6 місяців тому +1

      There will be no time travel

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +1

      Personally I'd rather they leave the time travel stuff out of this. That's always been a slippery slope.

    • @drakologarnus7248
      @drakologarnus7248 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Zeomantic i believe only ash was able to realy "harness" that ability where as no one else was able to also xion and xiao may have been unable to acctualy effect things. so im pretty sure time travel is out of the question

  • @Nematoda4ever
    @Nematoda4ever 6 місяців тому

    I think its another ship besides Luciel one, lucielians says they dont know where our origin come from, only Zepetto know, so we not from luciel facility, and probably from this ship, remnants ark ship.
    And i think starless we fought so far only the foots soldiers of vanguards starless army, even Solus.

    • @stinopharan5528
      @stinopharan5528 6 місяців тому

      This is likely.

    • @izzy_theog9658
      @izzy_theog9658 6 місяців тому

      So basically there are even stronger Starless creatures out there somewhere? Or perhaps another embodiment of Primordial Darkness?

    • @Nematoda4ever
      @Nematoda4ever 6 місяців тому +1

      @@izzy_theog9658 yeah, just like PD,
      there's stronger Starless.
      since Zepetto created Dolls based of Starless, we can assume there's Starless like Aegis out there.

  • @ex_ceed
    @ex_ceed 3 місяці тому

    That means were going back to the shippppp able to go to other planets finally.

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  3 місяці тому

      I guess we'll have to see where they take this.

  • @drakologarnus7248
    @drakologarnus7248 6 місяців тому

    The starless seem to be able to replicate dark falz of the past and seem to be made up of light and dark. Halpha appears to be near the *center* this is where the final battle happened with the primordial darkness and the starless emerged there. Xaoi might be asleep in that structure.. or he may be the head of the starless to restore balance

  • @_hp999_
    @_hp999_ 6 місяців тому +1

    Q : what is this city ?
    A : nostalgia bait 👍

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +1

      Totally here for this!

    • @_hp999_
      @_hp999_ 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Zeomantic NGS have a big potential to be a fun game, celebrating the whole franchise in this new engine - like FF 14 do.
      Right now, a class from FF 6 will be added to 14 in the next big update. It's not a 1:1 conversion, the class was updated and balanced to work in the FF 14 gameplay but the core concept, the class soul is here.
      Meanwhile in NGS, we lost Summoner bcs the producer was lazy and refused to make adjusts and balance the Summoner class to work in the NGS gameplay.
      So much potential wasted...
      Goodluck zeo 👍

  • @C1K47
    @C1K47 6 місяців тому

    Spacebound confirmed

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому

      Seems that way on the surface.

  • @Azella_
    @Azella_ 6 місяців тому

    It's one of Luther's dreams

  • @jgkitarel
    @jgkitarel 6 місяців тому

    The apparent lack of urgency is due to the fact that we are still early in the story and have the updates to it coming in drips and drabs, much like it had been with Base PSO2 in Japan originally. We got spoiled with the release of the global servers, which had it all done in a way that made it much simpler for us to get all the details, rather than having to find them via random chance due to how each zone was instanced via some variant of template calls to map resources to keep the size of the game down. Base was a fairly hefty game by Episode 6, but it would have been much larger had the design not been some design decisions, like procedural generation (though this is not complete procedural generation from the ground up, but semi-random generation from templates) to lower and simplify the resource requirements.
    As for the zone, I wouldn't be surprised if it is the original colony, using the residential district of an ARKS Ship for the original colonists on Halpha. Basically the 1st Gen of Resurgent ARKS, who were all essentially wiped out, with the few survivors molding the 2nd Gen and establishing the culture as is on Halpha.
    As for the DOLLS presence, Zephetto basically had the setup for the 4th Gen clones, who would have the potential that your character and Manon showed, and which Aina pulled a surprise when she showed she had a potential that far exceeded what had been known for 2nd Gen. And they would need the training and experience, not to mention the needed trials and such, to go even further.
    As for the Starless, we are currently facing the earliest vanguard of their main force, and Halpha is likely not the only target. I wouldn't be surprised if this finishes the leadup to Episode 2.

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому

      You're preaching to the choir in that first paragraph. This ain't my first rodeo with this stuff. Yeah, that content vomit no doubt fueled some unrealistic expectations on the global side. 2nd paragraph is definitely plausible. I could definitely see this as a springboard to a possible "Episode 2" as well. Thanks for watching!

    • @soya_kitchens
      @soya_kitchens 6 місяців тому

      As someone that played JP (at early/mid EPISODE 4), it never really felt like story updates were dripfed to us. There may have been times where the monthlong waits between left me feeling antsy, but we would get hefty whole Chapters (most of the time) full of awesome characters and juicy, emotional stories that were actually interesting and engaging, and the plot was almost always moving at a steady pace. They did put in a lot of filler with the Chapter updates than was probably necessary, and there were even story updates that were nothing but filler just to buy more time to finish the next real BIG content+story update but it never felt like I was being cheated, because I knew I had something great to look forward to next time.
      Meanwhile, NGS feels like it's entire first 5 chapters are mostly the character subplots missions you'd get between Main Story missions from Base with none of the meat to make you feel satisfied.
      If I were to theorize, I think they were trying to go for something like EPISODE 1 where it's mostly just a quaint yet mysterious story about Quna finding Hadred, as the game was just getting started and they were dipping their toes in the water, introducing you to the recurring cast of personalities at ARKS while slowly exposing the dark side of this organization that you are a part of, easing into EPISODE 2.
      NGS kind of follows this same mentality, but there isn't really anything there to replace the Quna side of the equation aside from the very vague and not even really concerned with idea of "What are DOLLS?? Why we in pod??? Where ARKS Ship?!?" until kinda Stia and then the Leceil stuff where we finally got...75% of an answer.
      I'm also part of the probably basic opinion that we shouldn't be starting over from scratch in terms of game quality... I get wanting to introduce your new core cast, but having it take 2 years is just way too much. The early release really was the worst thing to happen to the game, but I doubt it would have affected the storytelling, so it's whatever
      I've rambled long enough! I should probably stop, now.

  • @aishisufuyu5961
    @aishisufuyu5961 6 місяців тому +1

    Your character is so cute.

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +1

      Why thank you! ❤

  • @SuperCocoKiller
    @SuperCocoKiller 6 місяців тому +1

    nothing in NGS makes sense I already stoped questioning it, devs don't really care about it.

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +3

      As much as I'd like to say to the contrary, you're not entirely wrong there.

  • @TheEXGamemaster
    @TheEXGamemaster 6 місяців тому +1

    Hey Zeo

    • @Zeomantic
      @Zeomantic  6 місяців тому +1

      Hi there! Happy New Year!