Kojima did himself a huge favor in this script. It was such a narrow window when you consider what happens contextually in this game. So he made the entire plot about double reads, entendre, controlling of information, and lack there of. Something not many writers could do in a way that isn’t cliche
I also would say the reason it works so well is that a story centered around those themes works so well for a video game. Video games are the only stories that make you a part of its dialog, it’s not a character being tricked, it’s you
I lost the person who introduced me to mgs, a couple of years ago. I appreciate your videos so much, it feels like I can continue the conversation with him. And his perspective on things makes so much sense to me now.
Me too i was a sophmore in high school and one of my buddies in french class inroduced me to the series and i thank him in my head all the time for that. I should really try to get back in contact with him
The entire storyline is about Legend. If MGS1 is Gene, MGS2 is Meme, MGS3 is Scene, MGS4 is Sense, MGSPW is Peace, Then it makes sense for the final game to delve into the fictions own fiction. That Big Boss didn't do half of what is attributed to him, because no one person could really achieve it all for several decades. But a name & a rank can outlast anything.
That’s because most of it is just pseudo intellectual dribble with no real substance and nothing fresh offered as far as perspective goes, purely regurgitation of the same ideas and thoughts which had been given on this game for years already, but with a clusterfuck of metaphors thrown at a wall by the maker of this video in an attempt to sound profound.
I always saw MGSV as Kojima bringing the multiverse into the saga and bridging it via the player/Venom, so every player has not only their own Snake/universe but their own interpretation of the series baked right into its lore as well, since the series at that point had already run wild with conflicting interpretations amongst fans (and maybe retcons to boot). Silent Hills was likely to play with the multiverse, and Death Stranding definitely does, with the Chiral Network being multiversal in connecting different Sams/players from different universes and affecting each other's worlds, which again allows room for the series to have opposing interpretations in the future except this time it's established from the jump.
Absolutely I'll never forget when a random African soldier started blowing Skullfaces cover by bragging what he was doing near the base. And this is a voice line that you only get later in the game when your have an Afrikaans interpreter. Then I was absolutely blown away by the voice lines you get when you explore bases with stealth or go through unnoticed. Soldier expose how they see you (Big Boss) everywhere and no one believes stories about Skullface because everyone talking about him treats the tail like a Boogeyman story. You see the setup of how all the atrocities that are perpetrated in V by Zero and Skullface fall 100% on Big Bosses name. No one knows who Skullface is. Even worse the real puppet master Zero.
This might be good but regardless I think the word and concept of multiverse has reached new levels of played out and it seems every single franchise by now has a multiverse
@@MrK4LB Yea at the end of the day it is all about the themes and stories, that’s what Kojima always prioritizes over continuity, and I think he just came up with this work around near the end for various reasons. At least the implementation was outside the box and something that can only be done in games. In a way he gave players the keys to the saga while keeping them away from Konami. It’s very easy to disregard stuff like Survive.
Welcome back! I've been going back to your video essays a lot over the past few months and will continue to do so in 2023, especially as more Kojima related projects continue to release this year and beyond. I hope these video essays remain enjoyable and sustainable for you as a content creator.
So in a sense, Skullface was the inverse of the boss. Present - at least in spirit - through the whole series and whose worldview informed the events of every major event in the series
More of a bookend, really. The participants of Operation Snake Eater had their own takeaways from the event, which they egotistically justified after the fact as being The Boss' will. None of them really had any idea what The Boss was talking about in the first place, and projected their own beliefs onto her. The Boss' ideology, worldview, or beliefs, had zero influence over what happened from that point. It was never about her, it was about appropriating her name and its influence. That set the stage for the conflicts from that point forward, as the conflict was really about who got to define The Boss and "her" will. Skull Face was just one of those parties, with his own methods to realize "her" will being to eradicate the possibility of cultural contamination and control through language. He was just the one to ignite the conflict, and reveal it was just an egotistic cycle of revenge rather than having any nobler purpose at all.
"An electronic video essay" As opposed to physical video essays. You know an assignment is serious when they let you do a video essay but have to submit each video frame on paper so the examiner can watch it like a flip-book.
I'll add something else the medic is no longer the medic he rembers nothing from his previous life. He was never pretending to be big boss, he was implanted with the memories of the real big boss everything that happened in mgs3 peace walker and portable ops he remembers it as if he experienced it himself he truly thinks he's big boss even his manorisms I will say that the process was incomplete but he's around 70-80 big boss
And on top of that even when he learned the truth he still accepted his role as big boss. Big boss himself recognized they are both big boss so honestly I think you could say he is 100 percent big boss they are one in the same sharing a title
You have kept me (and are keeping me) company in moments that, personally, are not too easy in life. Every time I receive a notification from this channel, I smile; because I know that what I'm going to watch won't be a simple video...but a real experience. Thank You, Boss
I believe MGSV best connected to MGS4, both the previous numbered game, and end of the series, via Skullface's plot against Major Zero. In MGS3 Zero is the good guy, in MGS4 he is the villain that secretly heralded over the entire series. We never see the heel turn until MGSV. Skullface poisoned his body and mind, destroying a vital point of contact within his new operation, which then goes on in wild and destructive paths.
Wasn't Zeke the first bipedal Metal Gear before Sahelanthropus? Or are we considering the blueprints that Huey had in Granin's office, which look like Rex (that Hal designed) but could've been his design for Sahelanthropus?
I know so much about the series, but haven't thought about ex post facto stuff you mentioned in this video. Very impressive, makes me think more about the whole saga. Many gamers still don't understand TPP and its open-ended message. We can all still cry about the unfinished/scrapped Kingdom of Flies mission, but we ALL KNOW what happens after, because of the ex post facto. Putting every piece together that made this saga as it is today was an extremely hard work. Jumping toward various decades, going further, getting back, doesn't matter... It is perfectly fine for the fans to not get all the answers by devs, and that's what Kojima did. He left some gaps on purpose because we, the gamers/fans, share the same knowledge about the story with him. Incredibly, that was going on for almost 30 years. We ARE the WRITERS of this saga, too.
that was the idea behind the ending of MGS2. but the fans didn't like it, so we got MGS4 instead, which then outright spelled it out for us and went full fan service due to death threats to Kojima. (yes, MGS4 is terrible in terms of story writing and Old Snake literally is Kojima being done with the series at that point) that's why Raiden talks about his VR experience ... only if you did the tanker episode. that's why Raiden in most cases spells out what the player is thinking. when Ray jumps up to catch the Harrier and Raiden goes "METAL GEAR?! IT'S ALSO ACTIVE!" it's what the player was also thinking "wait, that's metal gear! and it's active!" or when crazy shit starts happening and Raiden starts to question what's happening, but the colonel keeps reassuring him (us) that it's fine and we should resume out duties. Raiden is the player, till Arsenal Gear where Raidens past is revealed, that's when he becomes his own character.
@@DarkDyllon Yeah, I also think MGS 2 is like a twin brother to MGS 5, mostly because Medic and Raiden were betrayed pretty similar. And since we were THEM, we also felt the same emotions. Kojima's writing skills were and are ahead of its time.
@@arklyshill i disagree with MGS5 being like a twin brother honestly. Raiden was purposefully setup as a blank character, a canvas in a sense, while Medic was set up as Big Boss' phantom, I honestly wish we would've received the product that should've been in the end, for this to be the end of the series is just sad. Medic doesn't feel to me as "i'm Big Boss" it just feels as i'm playing a guy that was basically brainwashed to be Big Boss, so i'm playing Big Boss, someone who i've already played as in 2 previous games. (MGS5 PW, yes, PW was the original MGS5 before Konami axed the name because "can't have a numbered entry on an handheld") and MGS3 obviously. While Raiden was thrown in to throw the player off. You start the tanker as Snake, everything we loved about him in MGS1 is still there, he gets the job done, he can engage in banter etc. then Raiden appears and just the amount of details in his 1st scene is amazing. (which change depending on if you did the tanker or not) where Raiden talks like Snake, but once his codename gets changed to Raiden he becomes the guy we know later on. I could go on and on about all the differences and why i like Raiden and dislike Medic, but I would probably need a few more pages of this video to just do that. Normally i wouldn't promote other channels, but go watch Outerheaven on Twitch, the guy in charge probably knows the most about MGS and shows his passion anytime he streams, while shitting on MGS V, not even kidding, he can spend close to 5+ hours covering small details on just the tanker in MGS2 and easily 2-3 hours talking about details in the 1st area of the Plant (not even the elevator yet, just where you start)
@@DarkDyllon I get your point, but what I meant about them both being twin brothers is the BETRAYAL toward players, made on purpose. I wouldn't normally compare them storywise since we're talking about a period when Kojima wanted to finish the franchise with MGS 2 back in 2001. MGS 2 holds a different message within the narrative, while MGS 5 holds another. Both messages are extremely profound and thought-provoking. Kojima was obviously pressed by Konami's executive staff to continue the franchise as much as he can, but I still love all MGS games since I find something special and big in any of them. Kojima and his team still managed to do an incredible job.
Great video, thanks for keeping MGSV alive. Always saw skull face as disembodied revenge and Venom as a Christ-like figure, can’t wait to see what comes next out of this channel.
Welcome Back, Futurasound Productions!!!! Question. I love your INTRUDER series where you deep dive into the main series of games. Any plans on doing one on Peace Walker? I was playing it the other day and forgot how awesome the game was. Would love your take on it. Keep up the great work!!
I understand it's not easy to stay on a regular uploading schedule, but it's good to see you back! Very excited for what the future might hold for this channel.
I just finished my first replay of the game, spurred on by finding your channel and binging everything. This is the perfect video to tie it all together. Thank you for the guidance.
Welcome back, Boss. Kept us waiting, huh? But we're not going anywhere. We're going to dig in here. It's going to be a long year. From today you can call this place... "Outer Heaven". Good to see you back, my friend. Hope everything's well on your side. Until next time, Boss. 🐍
Well when you understand that MGSV is a void in the lore being told by the literal actions of each player. So basically Big Boss did - in the 1980s. That - was the literal actions of the player in the open world of V. And the player and Big Boss are literally you. The person with the controller in hand. Now that you understand that, you play Vs story again. Now you get the cheap call backs (or forwards in this case) is the game telling you. You and your actions wrote this into code. And it's repeated later by the Patriot AI copying the blueprint created by the players. However that also means that YOU the player are the person that is burned alive by our beloved Solid Snake. So we got lifted high and spiked right into the ground in the same instant. It's the constant pondering of what the individual players in their roles write into code. And the later progenitor surpass or not. V was one hell of a puzzle, however once you're in the puzzle it really is what a fan of the original games was looking for. And quite the amazing MGS story. Sad that we got left on such a hopeless note. But that's the most MGS shit of all time. These are The Patriots (Konami) and if they did not shut us down by leaving Big Boss (fans, Koji Pro) for dead they would not live up to their own standards. Us fans watched our favorite series get strung up and murdered right in front of us, while our most anticipated game dropped. Only for everyone to be disappointed by it. Only to find it's meaning years later. Truly The Phantom Pain.
@@JJ_Jack_Gittes The verbiage in the trailers never sat right with me. Why would Kojima Productions say this is the missing link to the series if it was just some random event that happened in the lore. It requires a lot of introspection to understand every word and cutscene in V. And that's when it becomes what it was advertised as. The missing link.
7 years and it's still the greatest Rambo simulator out there. Everything else that tries to do this kind of stealth+action gameplay (new far cry and ghost recon games for example) feels so very shallow compared to it, nothing else provides this kind of emergent gameplay and variety in dealing with any threat. It also probably has the most polished and expansive 3rd person movement in the genre. Needless to say I'd sell my kidney for MGSVI with gameplay that expands on MGSV.
And for those here who haven't played it but want to give it a chance, try not to overuse the tranquilizer gun, or even just get rid off it. It trivializes stealth and I genuinely believe it may be the reason many dislike this game, it can turn it into a repetitive snooze fest and the game kinda pushes you into using it thanks to the fulton/basebuilding mechanic. Similiar thing with most silenced non lethal guns.
Absolutely agree bro ... Regards ...im from Colombia and I recomend you muy sumary ....another idea of the game 👉The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
If Konami wants to actually make a move that doesn't stink of cash grab and alienate the fans, they take metal gear 1 and 2, plot point for plot point, assign a competant director, and say "make this with the fox engine" Konami gets 2 games out of it and fans get a solid feeling version of those games that feels more in line with the 3d games. It would be new territory for many fans who never got through the MSX games.
MGS5 doesn't really feel like a metal gear game to me, sure it's what we always wanted on paper but it doesn't have that special feel that all the other mgs games do especially. 2 is an absolute justified masterpiece and if your a true fan the og ps1 version is always goat.
0:01 The word "cage" from the initial quote may also cause "Déjà-Vu" along some "conflicts" of massive magnitude with the reader's "internal timeline" "for a S-Special reason."
Metal Gear has been in the forefront of the zeitgeist lately. With the announcement of an announcement for the future of the series recently. I hope justice is done with this franchise.
MGSV’s ending does exist. It already existed before every other Metal Gear game. Metal Gear 1 is MGSV’s true ending. MGSV has no ending, and the Metal Gear Saga (when played in release order) never ends. You play the games from MG1 to MG2, from MGS1 to MGSV, and the ending of MGSV actively encourages the player to go back to MG1, which would make the player replay the following games, before going back to MGSV. And the saga “ends” and “begins” simultaneously once more. It’s a loop of sorts. Making the Metal Gear Saga a NeverEnding Story of sorts.
@@George-zj9rr they weren't datamined, they existed as a part of the collectors edition. It's pretty clear to me that this is death of the author stuff anyways, so this is merely the commenters interpretation
I have found something that is interesting in both ground zeros and the phantom pain if you pay attention to Big Boss shadow that gets reflected on the ground/ surfaces in both games even in the main menu of ground zeros if you click on cassette tapes look closely and you will see that something isn’t correct that being the shadow that gets reflected is that of the medic head model I’m sure this isn’t a oversight I think kojima had this done for a reason as the shadow should reflect big boss mullet etc etc however it doesn’t it shows big boss with short hair like the medic meaning that even before phantom pain you never played as the real big boss you may have been in a VR simulation as the medic possibly I’m not sure but the game itself is telling you that something isn’t right even when you play ground zeros the medic shadow follows you.
That's not true, I'm afraid. I actually thought the same when I saw Venom's shadow in mgs5: it doesn't show the mullet, but it does show the ponytail. Thus, it is an oversight.
Venom was his father ... Is my opinion ...and this one too 👉The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
10:30 skullface didnt create the first bipedal walking metal gears, huey did based on granins designs. Peace walker and zeke were bipedals before sally.
Kojima did himself a huge favor in this script. It was such a narrow window when you consider what happens contextually in this game. So he made the entire plot about double reads, entendre, controlling of information, and lack there of. Something not many writers could do in a way that isn’t cliche
He did so well I think he may have created the cliche, this game will be far more influential than most thought at launch
I also would say the reason it works so well is that a story centered around those themes works so well for a video game. Video games are the only stories that make you a part of its dialog, it’s not a character being tricked, it’s you
@@FitchTVsame as MGS2
mgs is the greatest thing ever written...
Kept us waiting, huh? Happy New Year's Jorin!! The ABSOLUTE BEST MGS CONTENT CREATOR ON UA-cam!!!
lets not forget james howell
What about Python?
@@thegamingprozone1941 Don't leave JavaScript behind
@@galphie5997 XD
@@galphie5997 we don't talk about dead vector
I lost the person who introduced me to mgs, a couple of years ago. I appreciate your videos so much, it feels like I can continue the conversation with him. And his perspective on things makes so much sense to me now.
That person is at mother base ,
true Outer Haven.
Shine like dimaonds...diamond Dogs R.I.P.
@@Exo_carbon.24 wow , mgsv community is beautiful !
Don't worry boss
Me too i was a sophmore in high school and one of my buddies in french class inroduced me to the series and i thank him in my head all the time for that. I should really try to get back in contact with him
you are one of the few creators that actually give me new perspectives on media I consume
stay with us, boss!
The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
The entire storyline is about Legend.
If MGS1 is Gene,
MGS2 is Meme,
MGS3 is Scene,
MGS4 is Sense,
MGSPW is Peace,
Then it makes sense for the final game to delve into the fictions own fiction. That Big Boss didn't do half of what is attributed to him, because no one person could really achieve it all for several decades.
But a name & a rank can outlast anything.
This game still looks better then most games today
Fox engine sadly is underused today.
It helped also that game wasn't overwhelmed with a lot of assets/details in environment.
Hideo kojima always finds a way to successfully push tech to its limits.
Currently playing this on and off, on the steamdeck.
And can run on a toaster.
like batman arkham knight
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't understand anything of what you were trying to say here.
I thought I was the only one.
Same
That’s because most of it is just pseudo intellectual dribble with no real substance and nothing fresh offered as far as perspective goes, purely regurgitation of the same ideas and thoughts which had been given on this game for years already, but with a clusterfuck of metaphors thrown at a wall by the maker of this video in an attempt to sound profound.
So I'm not the only one.
*click* on "the don't recommend this channel"
I always saw MGSV as Kojima bringing the multiverse into the saga and bridging it via the player/Venom, so every player has not only their own Snake/universe but their own interpretation of the series baked right into its lore as well, since the series at that point had already run wild with conflicting interpretations amongst fans (and maybe retcons to boot). Silent Hills was likely to play with the multiverse, and Death Stranding definitely does, with the Chiral Network being multiversal in connecting different Sams/players from different universes and affecting each other's worlds, which again allows room for the series to have opposing interpretations in the future except this time it's established from the jump.
The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
Absolutely I'll never forget when a random African soldier started blowing Skullfaces cover by bragging what he was doing near the base. And this is a voice line that you only get later in the game when your have an Afrikaans interpreter. Then I was absolutely blown away by the voice lines you get when you explore bases with stealth or go through unnoticed.
Soldier expose how they see you (Big Boss) everywhere and no one believes stories about Skullface because everyone talking about him treats the tail like a Boogeyman story.
You see the setup of how all the atrocities that are perpetrated in V by Zero and Skullface fall 100% on Big Bosses name. No one knows who Skullface is. Even worse the real puppet master Zero.
This might be good but regardless I think the word and concept of multiverse has reached new levels of played out and it seems every single franchise by now has a multiverse
Very true I almost rolled my eyes when I saw/heard multiverse but I'm biased for Metal Gear themes and motifs so what can I say.....
@@MrK4LB
Yea at the end of the day it is all about the themes and stories, that’s what Kojima always prioritizes over continuity, and I think he just came up with this work around near the end for various reasons. At least the implementation was outside the box and something that can only be done in games. In a way he gave players the keys to the saga while keeping them away from Konami. It’s very easy to disregard stuff like Survive.
Welcome back! I've been going back to your video essays a lot over the past few months and will continue to do so in 2023, especially as more Kojima related projects continue to release this year and beyond. I hope these video essays remain enjoyable and sustainable for you as a content creator.
So in a sense, Skullface was the inverse of the boss. Present - at least in spirit - through the whole series and whose worldview informed the events of every major event in the series
More of a bookend, really. The participants of Operation Snake Eater had their own takeaways from the event, which they egotistically justified after the fact as being The Boss' will. None of them really had any idea what The Boss was talking about in the first place, and projected their own beliefs onto her. The Boss' ideology, worldview, or beliefs, had zero influence over what happened from that point.
It was never about her, it was about appropriating her name and its influence. That set the stage for the conflicts from that point forward, as the conflict was really about who got to define The Boss and "her" will. Skull Face was just one of those parties, with his own methods to realize "her" will being to eradicate the possibility of cultural contamination and control through language. He was just the one to ignite the conflict, and reveal it was just an egotistic cycle of revenge rather than having any nobler purpose at all.
remember that randomly skullface was at MGS3 picking up Snakes shit.
"An electronic video essay"
As opposed to physical video essays.
You know an assignment is serious when they let you do a video essay but have to submit each video frame on paper so the examiner can watch it like a flip-book.
I love electronic videos
I'll add something else the medic is no longer the medic he rembers nothing from his previous life. He was never pretending to be big boss, he was implanted with the memories of the real big boss everything that happened in mgs3 peace walker and portable ops he remembers it as if he experienced it himself he truly thinks he's big boss even his manorisms I will say that the process was incomplete but he's around 70-80 big boss
The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
Nah he's 90% Big Boss, the other 10 percent is not being a scheming sob like Naked Snake was lol during the late years
And on top of that even when he learned the truth he still accepted his role as big boss. Big boss himself recognized they are both big boss so honestly I think you could say he is 100 percent big boss they are one in the same sharing a title
You have kept me (and are keeping me) company in moments that, personally, are not too easy in life.
Every time I receive a notification from this channel, I smile; because I know that what I'm going to watch won't be a simple video...but a real experience.
Thank You, Boss
The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
I just woke up and saw you had a new video I almost screamed in excitement! Welcome back and Happy New Year!
Welcome Back.. Boss
DUDE! This is the best thing 2023 could bring! So glad to see you back!!!!
I believe MGSV best connected to MGS4, both the previous numbered game, and end of the series, via Skullface's plot against Major Zero. In MGS3 Zero is the good guy, in MGS4 he is the villain that secretly heralded over the entire series. We never see the heel turn until MGSV. Skullface poisoned his body and mind, destroying a vital point of contact within his new operation, which then goes on in wild and destructive paths.
We already saw Zero at his most antagonist during Peace Walker
@@Sjono By Patriots standards that was more of a sternly worded letter.
Man, I was dying waiting for a new video! Happy new year =]
What if I told u me and my friends binge play this series every year just to talk about the plot again...now these vids just keep me waiting.
Loook about my theory 👉The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
Discord?
Camera guy best MGSV character. Man needs a raise, a true diamond dog
The over the shoulder war cam in V was too good
Wasn't Zeke the first bipedal Metal Gear before Sahelanthropus? Or are we considering the blueprints that Huey had in Granin's office, which look like Rex (that Hal designed) but could've been his design for Sahelanthropus?
Zeke was the first bipedal MG. Sahelanthropus was the first (and only) upright MG. All the other bipedal MGs are hunched.
Welcome back, boss!
Hope you enjoyed the holidays!
Glad to see you upload again. Hope you're doing well. Looking forward to whatever you have brewing (Metal Gear or not).
Jorin! Glad to see some fresh top tier MGS content filling up my feed! Hope you've had a good holiday! TY and Welcome Back!
I know so much about the series, but haven't thought about ex post facto stuff you mentioned in this video. Very impressive, makes me think more about the whole saga. Many gamers still don't understand TPP and its open-ended message. We can all still cry about the unfinished/scrapped Kingdom of Flies mission, but we ALL KNOW what happens after, because of the ex post facto. Putting every piece together that made this saga as it is today was an extremely hard work. Jumping toward various decades, going further, getting back, doesn't matter... It is perfectly fine for the fans to not get all the answers by devs, and that's what Kojima did. He left some gaps on purpose because we, the gamers/fans, share the same knowledge about the story with him. Incredibly, that was going on for almost 30 years. We ARE the WRITERS of this saga, too.
that was the idea behind the ending of MGS2.
but the fans didn't like it, so we got MGS4 instead, which then outright spelled it out for us and went full fan service due to death threats to Kojima. (yes, MGS4 is terrible in terms of story writing and Old Snake literally is Kojima being done with the series at that point)
that's why Raiden talks about his VR experience ... only if you did the tanker episode.
that's why Raiden in most cases spells out what the player is thinking.
when Ray jumps up to catch the Harrier and Raiden goes "METAL GEAR?! IT'S ALSO ACTIVE!" it's what the player was also thinking "wait, that's metal gear! and it's active!"
or when crazy shit starts happening and Raiden starts to question what's happening, but the colonel keeps reassuring him (us) that it's fine and we should resume out duties.
Raiden is the player, till Arsenal Gear where Raidens past is revealed, that's when he becomes his own character.
@@DarkDyllon Yeah, I also think MGS 2 is like a twin brother to MGS 5, mostly because Medic and Raiden were betrayed pretty similar. And since we were THEM, we also felt the same emotions. Kojima's writing skills were and are ahead of its time.
@@arklyshill i disagree with MGS5 being like a twin brother honestly.
Raiden was purposefully setup as a blank character, a canvas in a sense, while Medic was set up as Big Boss' phantom, I honestly wish we would've received the product that should've been in the end, for this to be the end of the series is just sad.
Medic doesn't feel to me as "i'm Big Boss" it just feels as i'm playing a guy that was basically brainwashed to be Big Boss, so i'm playing Big Boss, someone who i've already played as in 2 previous games. (MGS5 PW, yes, PW was the original MGS5 before Konami axed the name because "can't have a numbered entry on an handheld") and MGS3 obviously.
While Raiden was thrown in to throw the player off.
You start the tanker as Snake, everything we loved about him in MGS1 is still there, he gets the job done, he can engage in banter etc.
then Raiden appears and just the amount of details in his 1st scene is amazing. (which change depending on if you did the tanker or not) where Raiden talks like Snake, but once his codename gets changed to Raiden he becomes the guy we know later on.
I could go on and on about all the differences and why i like Raiden and dislike Medic, but I would probably need a few more pages of this video to just do that.
Normally i wouldn't promote other channels, but go watch Outerheaven on Twitch, the guy in charge probably knows the most about MGS and shows his passion anytime he streams, while shitting on MGS V, not even kidding, he can spend close to 5+ hours covering small details on just the tanker in MGS2 and easily 2-3 hours talking about details in the 1st area of the Plant (not even the elevator yet, just where you start)
@@DarkDyllon I get your point, but what I meant about them both being twin brothers is the BETRAYAL toward players, made on purpose. I wouldn't normally compare them storywise since we're talking about a period when Kojima wanted to finish the franchise with MGS 2 back in 2001. MGS 2 holds a different message within the narrative, while MGS 5 holds another. Both messages are extremely profound and thought-provoking. Kojima was obviously pressed by Konami's executive staff to continue the franchise as much as he can, but I still love all MGS games since I find something special and big in any of them. Kojima and his team still managed to do an incredible job.
Happy new year!! Put those nine years behind you and please return as a big boss!!
The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
Missed you! Thanks and happy new year my dude!
Great video, thanks for keeping MGSV alive. Always saw skull face as disembodied revenge and Venom as a Christ-like figure, can’t wait to see what comes next out of this channel.
Grits...The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
Welcome Back, Futurasound Productions!!!! Question. I love your INTRUDER series where you deep dive into the main series of games. Any plans on doing one on Peace Walker? I was playing it the other day and forgot how awesome the game was. Would love your take on it. Keep up the great work!!
Video essays were a mistake
I understand it's not easy to stay on a regular uploading schedule, but it's good to see you back! Very excited for what the future might hold for this channel.
I just finished my first replay of the game, spurred on by finding your channel and binging everything. This is the perfect video to tie it all together. Thank you for the guidance.
Happy to see you back boss 🫡
Damn we missed you and damn you were long gone absent. You kept us waiting.
Welcome back, Boss.
Just checked yesterday to see if I missed any Secrets In The Cutscenes
Happy new year, Bigboss
Missed your videos man, good to see you back.
Rayden...👉 The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
I’m so glad you are back. 2023 is off to a great start! Thank you for returning!!!
Well, 2023 is certainly shaping up to be a better year than those it follows. I'm really glad you're back, FSP!
boss this much waiting huh? welcome back boss!
Welcome back, Boss. Kept us waiting, huh?
But we're not going anywhere. We're going to dig in here. It's going to be a long year.
From today you can call this place...
"Outer Heaven".
Good to see you back, my friend. Hope everything's well on your side.
Until next time, Boss. 🐍
Hola Alfredo ....The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
A good way to start 2023.
COD would never have a channel with 70k that has days of commentary on the games for the campaign
It's a good thing skull face wears that mask...cause now he can just take it off and surely nobody would know it was him who was the villain.
Happy New Year! 🥳
welcome back! hope you had a peaceful break C:
Take a drink every time he says "ex post facto"
the legend is back! happy new year king.
Welcome back
Kept us waiting, huh?
Welcome back, boss.
J has come to.
Welcome back, boss.
Kept us waiting, huh?
Well when you understand that MGSV is a void in the lore being told by the literal actions of each player. So basically Big Boss did - in the 1980s. That - was the literal actions of the player in the open world of V.
And the player and Big Boss are literally you. The person with the controller in hand.
Now that you understand that, you play Vs story again. Now you get the cheap call backs (or forwards in this case) is the game telling you. You and your actions wrote this into code. And it's repeated later by the Patriot AI copying the blueprint created by the players.
However that also means that YOU the player are the person that is burned alive by our beloved Solid Snake.
So we got lifted high and spiked right into the ground in the same instant.
It's the constant pondering of what the individual players in their roles write into code. And the later progenitor surpass or not.
V was one hell of a puzzle, however once you're in the puzzle it really is what a fan of the original games was looking for. And quite the amazing MGS story. Sad that we got left on such a hopeless note. But that's the most MGS shit of all time. These are The Patriots (Konami) and if they did not shut us down by leaving Big Boss (fans, Koji Pro) for dead they would not live up to their own standards.
Us fans watched our favorite series get strung up and murdered right in front of us, while our most anticipated game dropped. Only for everyone to be disappointed by it. Only to find it's meaning years later. Truly The Phantom Pain.
You just figured out the rationale behind the Kojima Ruse.
@@JJ_Jack_Gittes The verbiage in the trailers never sat right with me. Why would Kojima Productions say this is the missing link to the series if it was just some random event that happened in the lore.
It requires a lot of introspection to understand every word and cutscene in V. And that's when it becomes what it was advertised as. The missing link.
The legend is back!!! Happy new years :)
Good to have you back
BOSS! Welcome back!
He is back! This is not a drill, Jorin Lee is back!
WAKE UP BABE, FUTURASOUND DROPPED AN UPLOAD!
7 years and it's still the greatest Rambo simulator out there. Everything else that tries to do this kind of stealth+action gameplay (new far cry and ghost recon games for example) feels so very shallow compared to it, nothing else provides this kind of emergent gameplay and variety in dealing with any threat. It also probably has the most polished and expansive 3rd person movement in the genre. Needless to say I'd sell my kidney for MGSVI with gameplay that expands on MGSV.
And for those here who haven't played it but want to give it a chance, try not to overuse the tranquilizer gun, or even just get rid off it. It trivializes stealth and I genuinely believe it may be the reason many dislike this game, it can turn it into a repetitive snooze fest and the game kinda pushes you into using it thanks to the fulton/basebuilding mechanic. Similiar thing with most silenced non lethal guns.
Absolutely agree bro ... Regards ...im from Colombia and I recomend you muy sumary ....another idea of the game 👉The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
If Konami wants to actually make a move that doesn't stink of cash grab and alienate the fans, they take metal gear 1 and 2, plot point for plot point, assign a competant director, and say "make this with the fox engine"
Konami gets 2 games out of it and fans get a solid feeling version of those games that feels more in line with the 3d games. It would be new territory for many fans who never got through the MSX games.
Glad you’re back😭🙏🙏
We’ve missed the videos bro❤️
MGS5 doesn't really feel like a metal gear game to me, sure it's what we always wanted on paper but it doesn't have that special feel that all the other mgs games do especially. 2 is an absolute justified masterpiece and if your a true fan the og ps1 version is always goat.
The best is always yet to come
0:01 The word "cage" from the initial quote may also cause "Déjà-Vu" along some "conflicts" of massive magnitude with the reader's "internal timeline" "for a S-Special reason."
yo welcome back king
If you want to imagine the future of Metal Gear Solid, picture a boot, stamping onto a human face for all eternity.
I want to play mgsv again so so so badly but I don’t want to delete my save data because I’m at like 89% completion
my favorite wild MGS theory, Skullface was both the Fury and then also Decoy Octopus
Welcome back!
I'm already a demon, heaven's not my type of place anyway.
Metal Gear has been in the forefront of the zeitgeist lately. With the announcement of an announcement for the future of the series recently. I hope justice is done with this franchise.
Alex ...The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
It's dead 😌
@@MGrey-qb5xz who is dead ???
MGSV’s ending does exist. It already existed before every other Metal Gear game.
Metal Gear 1 is MGSV’s true ending.
MGSV has no ending, and the Metal Gear Saga (when played in release order) never ends.
You play the games from MG1 to MG2, from MGS1 to MGSV, and the ending of MGSV actively encourages the player to go back to MG1, which would make the player replay the following games, before going back to MGSV. And the saga “ends” and “begins” simultaneously once more.
It’s a loop of sorts. Making the Metal Gear Saga a NeverEnding Story of sorts.
No, the game was unfinished. Have you seen the partial cutscenes for the 3rd chapter that were datamined?
@@George-zj9rr they weren't datamined, they existed as a part of the collectors edition. It's pretty clear to me that this is death of the author stuff anyways, so this is merely the commenters interpretation
The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
welcome back boss
Another year hasn’t slowed you down one bit! 🎉🎉
I have found something that is interesting in both ground zeros and the phantom pain if you pay attention to Big Boss shadow that gets reflected on the ground/ surfaces in both games even in the main menu of ground zeros if you click on cassette tapes look closely and you will see that something isn’t correct that being the shadow that gets reflected is that of the medic head model I’m sure this isn’t a oversight I think kojima had this done for a reason as the shadow should reflect big boss mullet etc etc however it doesn’t it shows big boss with short hair like the medic meaning that even before phantom pain you never played as the real big boss you may have been in a VR simulation as the medic possibly I’m not sure but the game itself is telling you that something isn’t right even when you play ground zeros the medic shadow follows you.
That's not true, I'm afraid. I actually thought the same when I saw Venom's shadow in mgs5: it doesn't show the mullet, but it does show the ponytail. Thus, it is an oversight.
@FuturasoundProductions good to know you're better now. Be well. And happy new year!
He’s back! We missed you!
Hearing some of this information made me feel like I was having a stroke
I do wonder if Liquid ever discovered Venom was not his father...
Venom was his father ... Is my opinion ...and this one too 👉The true is on my summary on my page ...go and read it or listen it .... 2 hours will take 🙂
A good Christmas present indeed.
WELCOME BACK, BOSS!
Ecstatic to see you back boss returning to mother base.
Remember MGS 3 had a dude that shot hornets out of his mouth and an old man sniper who uses photosynthesis
Welcome home boss.
Happy new year, Broooooootheeeerrrrr
What took you so long? (Happy new year.❤️🔥)
Please never stop your metal gear lore videos keep me going man a fan for years
Excellent, as always. Gonna need a few more rewatchs for this one, too. Interesting thought of SF being implanted with ocelot 's personality
Happy New Year
Hello you're back! Great, thanks. Happy new year!
Jorin " let the legend come back to life"
Jorin hasn’t missed a beat, sharp as a razors edge. About to rewatch this at least half a dozen times
Never Game Over
I’m glad people are still making mgsv videos
The man is back! Been missing this channel. Happy New Year to you, and a happy belated christmas present to me!
This is awesome, and it's great to have you back. Only thing that could make this better is if the MGS Podcast also came back.
10:30 skullface didnt create the first bipedal walking metal gears, huey did based on granins designs. Peace walker and zeke were bipedals before sally.
Awesome been waiting for this.👍👍
Happy New Year Boss
Your back omg!