Why Konami Pushed Hideo Kojima Out of The Company
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- This video game documentary about Hideo Kojima details the whole story of why Konami pushed Hideo Kojima out of the company after he was employed there for nearly three decades.
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they fucked up phantom pain, btw watching from india
I keep telling people.
There IS NO METAL GEAR SOLID 5. IT DOES NOT EXIST.
The game is called Metal Gear Solid V. The V stands for VENOM SNAKE, which is whom you play as through the game. The game literally beats you on the head with this in Phantom Pain during the first 10 minutes of the game. Hence the code "V has come to".
God, why can't people figure that out?
One suggestion on how a phone can compete with console. For example, cloud gaming like Stadia:
If there are enough server around the world or faster internet, suddenly people can play AAA game on phone no matter how small they are as long as they can stream such game from the server.
But to be honest, I don't like those milking mobile game as well. They are like what music industry has become nowadays, less on quality, more on repetition and money making scheme.
I have been playing one of those mobile game thing just to realized that I can still get far more better hours worth of playing per dollar by spending for good games on steam.
While playing mobile game, I always feel like it's such a big time sink and money sink grinding and climbing the ladder. Totally not worth my time and money.
But after all, we have what we pay for. So choose wisely what game you will spend. Because if you keep supporting game that care more about your purse than your admiration, they will thrive. Then the next generation, you will realize that honorable game developers die out.
I hope one ☝️ day Metal Gear 6 .... Snake .. snake.. Ps5
A resent while ago Nintendo don’t need phone games anymore
Hearing any company say “Mobile games are the future” is like hearing them say “Haha, we’re getting filthy rich on mobile games!”
Mihoyo:"Is it too much to ask for both?"
It's more like "We don't actually care about making quality entertainment, just money". There'll never be a mobile game with the depth of story and overall quality gameplay that metal gear games have.
I just hope that they choke on their money! Filthy greedy pigs! If mobile games were the future why is not a phone 5 on the market instead of a PS5!!??
@@AnakinFury haha so thats why i dont give a shit about MHY ASKING SURVEY ON THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY CARE ALL ABOUT MONEY MONEY AND ALSO EVERY TRIPLE AAA STUDIOS OUT THERE..
@@AnakinFury Most of Mihoyo's games are gachas, that should already tell you what kind of company they are.
Imagine abandoning Metal Gear Solid and one of the best minds in the industry for Dragon Collection
Shudders...
Konami is hugely profitable. I can't say they made the wrong corporate decision.
@@nobody3634 true but the way konami lay off kojima-san, its like give middle finger to non mobile gaming fans...well i think the future is Virtual Reality thou
when 80 mil costs to let a person realize his vision and sales don’t make up for it because 3 millions times the price tells you all there’s to know.
Well, it cost 80 Million to make but only turn up around 53 Million dollars and you have to wait 7 years for it. 7 years for a 30 million loss. Its a good game but as a business, it's just a bad investment too risky. Why invest in a high-risk high reward if there's a low-risk high reward like mobile games which to add they didn't need to wait 7 years to make profit. I mean I understand why they did it from a business standpoint.
"... and Konami wanted to take money from gambling addicts." Fixed that for you!
I recommend you watch _A day in the life of a Pachinko Employee_ , I think it was called that.
You cannot actually win movie through pachinko. So, you know. The more you know.
Unless you mean mobile gaming then yeah 100% I agree.
@@Zeithri Yeah, I meant mobile gaming. It feels to me like gambling where the house doesn't lose anything even if you win.
Mobile gaming?
Nah
More like
Portable casino gaming B)
The really sad thing is as scummy as that is, they could have still made good games for consoles and PC to keep up their good reputation and make money off that while still making money off the mobile gaming market. They just got lazy and said why bother, people with gambling addictions can keep us rich indefinitely.
Band these games! But sadly I’m watching my son be not interested in “Hard to figure out games” and just goes for these endless easy quick games on his phone.. I don’t understand it.. no beautiful controller in my hand on a big tv with surround sound and deep gameplay with awesome graphics.. instead these littles easy cheap games.. I’ll never understand it..
Kojima has something much more valuable than he realizes: he has a reputation for making quality games. Fans of his games will follow him, no matter who he makes those games with.
I do not follow him because Kojima is a hack. He's a d-list hollywood writer at best.
@@Freedom21stCenturi Dogshit take
@@Freedom21stCenturiweak rage bait
I'm so happy that Nintendo didn't shift gears to only mobile when they were having a bad time with the wii u. A future where basic mobile gaming is dominant is not a future I want to be in.
Too bad free market economics say otherwise.
thats not the future bro,people who say that are only trying to push this thought to make more profit
My biggest problem with mobile games is not their quality, some of them have extremely good gameplay, graphics and such.
My problem with the genre is that its treated as a money making machine, where companies want to squeeze you out of every cent you have for every little piece of the game, they're basically a disguise cash cow that most likely won't live long, but will give huge profits to the company.
The future is now old man. Whether we like it or not.
@@miragespl Phones are still too weak to handle now-a-days smash hits AAA games. The future where mobile gaming is dominant will never happen.
Such a sad story. I have been a fan of MGS for 20 years. Konami used to be my favorite game publisher. MGS, Castlevania SOTN and all the NES classics. If I remember correctly, Konami did say they wanted to be the Asian equivalent of EA (around 2003, when EA was the most successful game publisher in the world). The irony is they achieved this by receiving a billion middle fingers.
It was definitely a bit soul crushing working on this video, but I'm just glad that at least Hideo Kojima got a happy ending. It's just such a waste to see awesome franchises like that discarded, especially after seeing the potential of the P.T. demo.
NGL this comment ending made me laugh hard.
Nah EA owns and ruined way more good franchises than Konami or Activision
@@Elico-du1oi Give them time.
@@nullpoint3346 What do you mean by that?
"I really wanted to re-connect with these people"
So Konami kicking Kojima out gave him the idea to make Death Stranding, a game dedicated to the premise of reconnecting people
Wow I just realized that
konami get rip of the guy since they are moving away from video game.. and more a ip company. and they no happy with kojima for very long time now... it like having a dog that won't go and cause more problem...
This game is one of the crappiest invention ever made.
@conan263 Absolutely, don't think kojima is 100% clean here, he is evil in a certain way too.
0Bennyman pure bs... wonder why his BEST FRIEND also abandoned him after death stranding.... you biased people relating to the rejection are not considering the whole picture,
It's a sad story, and I'm googling why Kojima left Konami only now. Kojima almost foresaw that he would be kicked out of Konami, and that's why he added the UV Light gun in MGSV: GZ. All Metal Gear games with his name on it where erased by the UV light, but games without his name remained, like Metal Gear Rising or Metal Gear Ac!d or Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, and Kaz even mentions after erasing a few markings that were a Kojima game: "You might be able to erase all the markings... but the memories will never disappear." Meaning that from Kojima's perspective, you can erase my name from the games I made, but people will always remember who I am and my legacy. Also he planned to put the Konami logo on the prison camps in GZ. Says a lot, agreed?
Damn, that's beautiful.
Didn't kojima productions take responsibility for the overall plot of rising tho? And weren't kojima productions the one to start working on the game formerly called metal gear solid: rising in the first place?
@@Warlord_Megatron do they? huh, that interesting, where did you read or hear that?
would love to know if that true.
@@MonkasParata it's on Wikipedia
@@Warlord_Megatron LMAO, ngl it sound like revenge plot as they do every shit things on purpose, then again, shouldn't be surprised with the name list easter eggs in that game.
I don't understand why anyone would prefer a tiny screen and wonky controls over a console or PC.
The price and portability maybe
Microtransaction my boy. Look at all of the mobile game. They can charged any price and people will buy it anyway
Today's life is so fast paced that people really don't find time to relax. Especially in asia, people spend 2-3 hours commuting to work. Thus the only free time they have is while commuting.
So Poor People Can have a chance of gaming.
Almost everyone has a mobile hence having much more potential customers since buying the gaming hardware does turn off casuals and non-gamers.
konami focused on converting the IP's into pachinko and "free to play" mobile games.
basically destroying their legacy for short term cash.
what a dumpster fire.
You're wrong though. Its long term profits and its shows they made the right decision. They even had profit growth during the pandemic even with the revenue drop. Since removing Kojima, Konami has been on the up almost every year.
Are you Hayakawa's alt
@@IncognitoSprax but what will Konami do with all the money after death. They will only die with the name of ruining good franchise’s. They die without respect and for greed but idk they will do whatever they wanna it’s their life anyways
@@someiggashit8654 Corporations don't exist for respect. They exist for the sole purpose of making money. That's their only actual legal purpose for existing. You think Bezos or the Walton family care about that either? You're putting value to something that only you care about but ultimately means nothing in the grand scheme.
@@IncognitoSprax ya I get what us sayin but what will you do with that much money cause u are busy like 24x7. So only your kids will enjoy it's mostly not you. See that's the funny thing about money cause it's actually useless and useful. The world makes it seem money is everything but you barely have time to use it unless ure Elon musk who is trying to reach his goal by help of money. There has to be more in life than money cause everywhere I see is everyone chasing money and get old and say where did all my time go and my life is soo boring.
Hideki Hayakawa: "Mobile is where the future of where gaming lies."
Everyone here: "F&#@ YOU!!"
The future of where casual normies gaming lies.
I don't blame mobile games as the reason for Konami's decision, but it's their greed that pushed Kojima away.
*LAUGHS AT GENSHIN IMPACT*
Actual gamers sippin konami's tears for those famous last words.
@@arnowisp6244 There legit people simping the characters and drawing a few things that ain't kid friendly
Wow talk about a redemption story. Hearing how he thought he had lost it all but had all these people still in his corner to support him when he had nothing truly speaks to Hideo’s character and profound respect everyone had for him. Literally tears formed in my eyes man.
Fortunately, it sounds like Konami and Kojima have repaired their relationship and agreed to work together on the upcoming Metal Gear Solid remakes.
@@Rocket1377 Kojima isn't working on the MGS3 remake.
@@Rocket1377never trust in Konami
Kojima is the real big boss
Shut the fuck up you people and your fake admiration are corny and fake ad hell how this speaks to his character for having helping hands?
wow, this explains death stranding, makes it entirely clear. death stranding is an allegory to his life and how he felt after all of this.
''I thought I had lost everything, but i found out that I had a lot of CONNECTIONS. like Sony people, like Norman Reedus, like Geoff Keighley. I really wanted to RECONNECT with these people that I thought were really important.''
so what you are saying he'll finally make an actual game now,cool
Yeah but he ditched og snake actor and ghosted quiet about a role in death stranding. What goes around comes around
If only death stranding was a good game
@@imcool2931 if only
Its amazing how kojima inserted his experienced into DS. If you haven’t played the PT demo (like myself) then watching a video called pts hidden meaning should be a fun watch -I think it was uploaded by the great debate.
People may find it to be a sad story, but I think it's the best hand he could've ever have gotten. He has his own studio with a lot more free creative control over it. I'm certain he's much happier with where he is now.
Are you out of your fucking mind? Konami killed the Metal Gear series by having Kojima quit the company.
MGSV TPP was left on a cliffhanger, there was alot of unfinished stuff that would've led the story in a really interesting place which would've added more elements and links to the overall Metal Gear lore.
Konami are a bunch of piece of shit and greedy fucks for having force stopped one of the most epic series in video game history.
That definetely was far from being a step in the right direction.
What of metal gear? Does he own it or Konami
@@jaredgarcia8638Konami
Remember, he lost his entire creative and technological legacy.
@@arsenii_yavorskyi yeah. That's tough to get over
I remember Geoff Keighley’s statement at the Game Awards. Man… That was such a shocker hearing that. Anger that was in everyone at that time and the crowd even booing..
those weren't blows to Hideo, that was Konami shooting themselves in the foot and then finally hanging themselves with their greedy belts when they release Metal Gear Survive
Metal Gear Survive is HOT GARBAGE
Pro Token420 5 also kinda had zombies
Yeah they really fucked up when they released it
The sad thing is that it was a fun game that nobody played because to be honest it isn't a MG game
@@Sigismund697 so your saying metal gear survive was a fun game ha ha , then you've never had any fun
The love of money is truly the root of many evils.
Konami just went of the rails its not evil its insane. "Mobile company" are they actually taht dumb or do they think we are?
@@mr.vargas5648 A few month of development for a game that racks in almost as much (if not more) money as a console game, with the total development cost being a single-digit % of the former, they are absolutely not dumb or "insane", they are a corporation with the only purpose being to earn money. There is a lot of shit that goes on behind the scenes when a console game is made, something like 30% of income is instantly lost to the greedy console companies, not to mention taxes and all the other usual BS.
@@thermionicemission6355 Ever heard of something called integrity?
@@mr.vargas5648 What for profit company has any integrity
@@Lagger01 from soft, the remakes aren’t great but they don’t work on them
Hideo stands against what most AAA developers strive for. Quick easy buck for minimum effort. Kojima is an artist, a genius, he pours his soul into his work and it shows. His games have always been incredible. Even an unfinished version of MGSV has more in it than most AAA game releases. He is a man of the people, he gives the people what they want and goes against the grain of the massive gaming industry business plans. I will always be a fan of his and his vision for gaming. Long live Hideo!
*Im glad people are still talking about this, lets not forget what happened to MgsV and PT, it still hurts man...*
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"The games we’ve lost… the Franchises we’ve lost… won’t stop hurting… It’s like they’re all still there. You feel it, too, don’t you?"
xcessive Read about Guillermo del Toro's career and weep for him. He loves games and got his soul crushed twice. First was Insane, which was a Lovecraftian horror thing and then again with PT. He almost adapted the serial killer manga "Monster" but that fell through too. Guy's cursed.
@Hellrazor Television I mean I only played the game recently and for me, zero mission was the prologue and it felt perfect for that.
xcessive you remember what suits your arguments only...........
Also remember how even his best friend abandoned him after DS....-. But of course you biased gamers that relate his rejection to your highschool era are the ones that know him..........🤯🤯
Every Metal Gear Solid entry is like a movie masterpiece that you can control....smartphone games are easily forgettable...
XD
The problem for Konami is that they don't get a cent every time we remember those great experiences. They already spent the money we paid them over decades, but they want MORE.
No shit sherlock how about a real observation
Every MGS entry except 5*
@arka arquena Bruh i have never even heard of that. It's hard to forget about something if you don't even know it's existence in the first place xD. Also a trilogy with 5 games?
Konami to Kojima: "You have a phone, right?"
^------- Underrated comment.
Konami is really near-sighted. They said they want to focused to mobile gaming and mobile gaming is a future, but what they want was simply an instant ROI with trashy mobile game that littered by MTX. The thing is mobile market is over-saturated with many free-to-play games. They're going to have a hard time to compete with many developers in mobile market because of the late start. The sad thing is Konami end up creating a slot machine plastered with Snake Eater and Silent Hill title on it few years after Kojima leaving the company.
Well said.
Funny thing is you are right.i don't see any Konami game popular in playstore other than pes and yu gioh.i think their games division is doomed.they earn from other businesses
That shows what they think of it.
Cash machines.
It's too late to create a mobile gaming.
The mobile market is over saturation. There's a reason why there's a lot of shitty ads nowadays.
Yeah
Both the app store and google play store cataloge are preeeeety sheeeety for games
Mostly apps i download
They turned their back on Hideo. So we turned our backs on them.
@@djamir5000 yugioh, thats it
They ruined mu favoritt game named Suikoden, Suikoden story still long and not end.
Speak for yourself idiot
Konami is dead, i literally don't see them doing anything these days.
@@mr_indie_fanComments that aged like shit
Gree should of just went ahead and added the "D" at the end.
I think that you didn't understand that glee was another marketing company. Konami just saw that and tried to becoming an industry that would become one that would get a lot of profit from shitty mobile games.
should have*
@@thibaut7780 Konami*
@@FR4M3Sharma ha mistake were made, thanks for pointing it out, i'll edit. Would not want to cause even more misunderstanding
I've always wondered, people that write "should of", what do they think it means? The phrase has no coherence.
Imagine throwing 40 years of videogame heritage in the trash because Angry Birds was popular for a while; thats essentially what Konami did.
How are they making a new metal gear game now????
I never heard Arnold Schwarzenneger being well-informed about Kojima's departure and the Konami dispute.
Wait, really??
Lmaoo
@@Xander_P.G.K Im just gonna tell you ya missed the joke, Because Wooosh is really annoying
@@amarionm5675 oh, ok. I didn't know it was a joke, lol
@@amarionm5675 Ah, a man of quality. Casually explains that he missed a joke cause this isn't fucking reddit and writing r/woooosh is both annoying and stupid, as well as disrespectful
Erasing traces of former shame is a japanese thing in general, saving face is one of the most important thing in their society. konami fucked it up though, probably didnt think that Kojima has such a big fanbase
I don't think they care about their reputation with the console fanbase. They have 'new market' to tap consisting of people that don't know pc / console games.
@@RoseDragoness it's not about reputation so people will buy our stuff, it's about company pride/face. Really Japanese/ East Asian thing, and actually quite common there. There was the infamous idol singer who was forced to shave her head and publicly apologize for a dating scandal, or the voice actor whose entire career portfolio was erased thanks to their drug abuse (weed)
@@HelloOnepiece gotcha. I'm from SE Asia and still thinks it is... bizarre.
@@RoseDragoness Yeah i know, but things are slowly changing, just speak with fresh uni graduates... alhtough sometimes they are rebelling a lil too much against their system (at least on mental level)
HelloOnepiece weed is medicine not a drug but then again water and coffee both are drugs as well if you want to go that logic route
Just to clarify: in MGS5, the logo of Kojima Productions still is right there in the opening intro when you launch the game. Therefore it really doesn't matter if they omitted it from the box or store pages. When you launch the game, it's right there. I'm pretty certain that there was an agreement made to have this remaining or being promptly reinstated.
No its probably just that "the suits" at Konami don't actually know anything about game development, so they didn't think to have that removed from the game, cuz they probably didn't even know it was there, til it was too late, and copies were already being shipped. 😆 Like with most industries, the assholes who run these companies don't ACTUALLY know how to do the work to make the products being sold. They're just the bigwigs in suits counting the money & that's it. That's their function.
Ppl who buy games look at box art seeing kojima's name of free promotion and increase of sales
I remember watching a doc from Nick930 on this. Hideo Kojima went to higher-ups at Konami whenever he had good ideas for a new IP, which was Metal Gear Solid, the higher ups will say no. That was until he showed them several prototypes of the game.
Simple, Kojima didn't treat his works as "industry".
Death stranding sucks
@@BillSchrader you probably have an attention span of an 8 year old then cause all the adults I’ve talked too loved it probably not old enough to understand the deeper meanings
@@BillSchrader Death Stranding is an absolute slow-burner, not everyone's cup of tea, so it's completely okay if you didn't like it
Death Stranding was a good game. The problem is you’re one of those people who were expecting “Metal Gear: Norman Reedus” and it was never going to be that. Don’t think that just because you didn’t like it, that makes it a bad game. Even if “Most People” don’t like a game, still doesn’t mean it’s a bad game. I personally don’t particularly like to play Mario games but I know that they’re great games, the best to some people. So I think you’re either close minded asf, or you have little to no attention span like pointed out earlier. Btw I prefer games like SoulsBorne games, action games, and survival horror. I play COD, DmC, Doom, etc. I even play all the EA games sometimes. I play a lot of games. I can tell a good game when I see one even if I don’t enjoy it and I also can tell when a developer puts a considerable amount of effort into a game. I also think that most gamers can do these things but for some reason you cannot?
Yes only stupid people fail to undertstand the brilliance of the first strand type game dont forget the brilliance and subtlety of the line "I'm fragile but im not not that fragile"
before there was greed there was *GREE* lol,sounds like a epic saga in the history of gaming.
And the following saga is about treachery.
G(r)eed for dinero gonna destroy us all..only Silent Hill in our minds never shall fade..
Gree got dumped by BNEI for a occasion.
There was gree then green then greed
And green and gree was gone..as we go hollow
KONAMI: How do we become the Japanese EA/Activision?
Konami’s even worse. At least you know EA will never make a Mass Effect pachinko game......I think.
@@PhenomsServant4 Uh..yeah they kinda did. Adding lootboxes in the last Mass effect multiplayer. They kinda did.
Funny cause Konami literally said they wanted to be the Asian EA a while back
@@kevinwho. PES vs. FIFA
Revenue is not defined by marketing decisions but by the quality of a product.
Kojima always delivered exactly that.
He knew what gamers wanted and created a franchise that no one could copy at the same quality.
He always implemented more than just gameplay but a meaning to his games, a message that might be weird at first, but extremely entertaining and a revulotionary new approach to problem solving and funny gimmicks to try out.
really.. his walking simulator is just a bad game. He's being praised because of his background, but if anyone else made death stranding it would have been slagged off
@@Cenot4ph If it were anybody else then it would have been a horror game that got critically acclaimed
Damn man. This made me cry. Now I know and truly understand what happened. Hideo kojima is the man. A hard working/respectable man. Genius and all. He had a great team. Pushing limits.
Oh boy did he the piss and shit grenades for 40 dollars a copy and it's just a demo from silent hill woo yeah what a fucking. Legend let me tell ya if he shit on your doorstep I bet you would sniff it or give it a lick huh
Yes
"Mobile is the future of gaming"... sure.. it's 2020 and it's still not ;)
You simply can't replace PC and consoles with a mobile device. It's completely different experience. Mobile games should be small, fun time killers. Can't imagine playing a long story driven campaign of any sort on small screen of my phone.
😛👍
Thats not the future konami envisions. Theirs is one of easy money consuming gacha games
Mobile is the future of milking money from brain dead 10 year olds.
Phone games are trash but hear me out. Mobile games are THE money maker in Japan. The insane work life of the average Japanese civilian is one of little downtime so mobile games are an easy sell there.
@@JustSkram Explains why gacha games are pretty popular in Japan.
The funny thing is they didn't even let him finish mgs:v imagine if it had a 3rd act
If only
The first chapter took me 117 hours to complete.
@@jirehemanuel holy cow
69 likes, make a wish!
@@warlocksnevereverdie i wish kojima buys the rights to mgsv 5 and finishes the game
I loved that ending story. It was a beautiful thing. Glad you shared it with us. I love this man even more now. What a total legend.
Damn bro this tugged at my heart strings, imagine being in his shoes feeling like your entire life’s purpose was destroyed and over.
Huge thanks to the powerful friends Kojima made along the way, you can tell they weren’t just coworkers but genuine friends who loved and respected Kojima as a person.
Sad because Konami has the IPs to Silent Hill, Castlevania, Metal Gear.....
well maybe the the company goes under they wont have shit
Yeah. Should've gave them to Kojima to make more walking simulators, or EA.
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my dad has been fan of the metal gear solid series, he puts a lot of hours in MGS5 and wanted me to try it, so i did and got so enjoyable, but i never know about Hideo being pushed out after my friend told me about it, really thought to myself hoping MGS6 but the company fell down, but MSG5 is such a stunning game
thank you dad
Seems a lot like there was a hostile takeover internally in Konami. The trams that were making mobile games were bringing in a lot of money. Where as Kojima was overseeing games that cost 80 million+.
Also I suspect Kojima was told to produce mobile games which he likely refused.
Konami went the money route and Kojima stuck to what he wanted.
I'm such a fan of this man's work and history. It brings me so much joy that he's able to continue working on his creative projects despite all the shit that he had to go through, and hopefully he will continue to make his followers satisfied with his ideas for the future :D
Well metal gear is not coming back ):
@@classicface hey hey hey
I think its important for someone to play devil's advocate so here goes:
There may have been signs that Kojima was becoming a bit of a spendthrift. 80 million dollars sounds like alot for a game... and much of it was spent on things no game needs, like celebrity actors Norman Reedus and Kiefer Sutherland who Kojima used to replace fan favorite David Hayter, which on the surface ironically appears like his own lack of commitment to loyalty for the sake of the "big time". The collaboration with Guillermo DelToro was however an exciting one i must admit.
It is again, ironic, that many people continue to regard MGS1 as his greatest creation and MGS5 as the worst of his series. Excess and freedom might not always lead to the best creative result. It seems that when Kojima is stifled by a restrictive budget and lesser technology, his huge ambitions work to stretch their limits and make something amazing-- When limited he is forced to exercise and maximize his creative energy. Gameplay as the main focus of entertainment also had to be upheld when he was in those conditions. It is arguable that when he is more free to create his vision, the focus of his games become cinematics and photorealism over gameplay for better or worse.
Kojima is a damn genius in the gaming world imo. I have NEVER been disappointed with one of his games
Must have low expectations. Metal gear 5 feels so empty. Emptier than cyberpunk.
@@klutzspecter3470 imagine comparing a 2015 game to a 2020 game lol
@@chubummmmlbb9365 not even that, MGSV doesn't feel empty at all. But not everyone has good tastes right.
@@klutzspecter3470 Nah, cyberpunk is crap. Even GTA 1 is better than that game.
Death Stranding?
Notice how Kojima says "those that are important" and "support him." The biggest influence this man had was folks that not only appreciated but also assisted in supporting his decisions as the backbone of his craft. If you want change, support those who help you with that change and utilize the important connections that believe in you.
I don't even play games but... damn, this is one hell of a story; this had me raging against Konami and choked up about Kojima. Glad this ended with him rising again. I hope he finds more and more success in his future endeavours.
After watching this I will never ever buy anything from Konami for sure....
Me too!
Well, Konami is definitely the story of how a corporation functions with BUSINESSMEN at the helm and not visionaries that lie within a respected industry. Profits and projections outweigh the evergreen nature of fresh ideas and passion. Both sides of this coin are needed for great videogame companies that are beloved and continue a legacy......from my observation
Not sure about the good business men part at Konami. Easing out Hideo influence at Konami, that part I understand, deleting Kojima Production name etc.
Trashing your own legend, and not allowing him to attend game award show to receive award for the game he created.....Destroying good will and your own brand Konami? Not sure that's good business... There is value in the visible bottom profit as well as the invisible but present brand value. It's simply bad strategy and incompetent executions.
japan are heavy busines and paperwork nightmare... you want to do strange shit with no timeline.. it not possible to them...
@@rukawa23gold "Easing out Hideo Influence" what rubbish. That was not good business, nor even business. That was plain scorched earth. You've already restructured the company. You've already demoted all of those at Kojima Productions and most on the console side of things to mere contractors or the lowest level of employees, including Kojima himself. You've already put mobile gaming to the top not only within your gaming division, but to the top of their priorities, including promoting many within that side of the gaming division and installing them in key and high level positions. It was unnecessary to remove all mentions of Hideo Kojima's name, including the name and logo of the studio responsible for creating the damn game. It was done purely out of petty spite and personal animosity on the part of Hideki Hayakawa, and several other key figures (possibly some of the Konami family on the board). It is also not necessary to turn the offices into a gulag, including locking Kojima in a room and doing the same with other key figures, monitoring all communications and emails, restricting communications, barring communication with Kojima and other individuals, blacklisting (from the industry) former employees who leave Konami's festering rotting corpse for guarunteed greener pastures. It goes on and on. None of these are understandable, justifiable, or even business. It's not really unusual for that kind of scummy behaviour within Japanese companies either, though Konami took it to new depths.
@@RockSolitude
Okay, so in a nutshell, the new CEO(s) is the bad guy.
Gotcha fam
MG is a fucking ridiculous mess. Genius, my ass. But having to use the second controller to beat that one boss was brilliant.
Thanks Hideo for your dedication and time to the industry of gaming. iconic characters...
Comprehensive! Thank you for compiling this. I’ve collected a lot of information over the years as I idolize Hideo Kojima and I’m happy to see some of these moments I missed and love seeing the support you’ve brought to light here. 🍻 here’s to future Kojima Productions success! Kampai!
My pleasure, glad you liked it!
Honestly hope that kojima could somehow get his hands on the rights to mgs series and even silent hill
I truly hate mobile “games” and every time I look into the topic the more I cement my hatred of them.
I don't even count *mobile* *games* as games!
Typical "Real Gamer"
Yep , they play pubg mobile and called themselves gamer wtf
Say anything you want but mobile games have some gems that's actually fun and isn't pay to win albeit maybe not totally graphically impressive
@@greenbin3028 yep ik , the golden age of mobile games are like angry birds , temple run and subway surfs
Konami's Corruption status: 100%
All employees scheduled for termination.
All well and good, but this sweeps under the carpet the fact that MGSV had a tortured development history... and in the end was unfinished
I was really disappointed by it after finishing snake eater. I swear half the budget went towards mocaping the boob rain/shower scenes instead of filling up the free roaming maps :l oh well nothing infinite heaven can’t fix :D
That game suuuuuucked..... Phantom Pain. What a boredfest
@Taylan Demir Yo my dude try installing infinite heaven, it even lets you put skulls into free roam and adds a ton more shit you’d probably really like
@@princetchalla2441 MGSV was a really small game stretched (literally) into an open world mess. It had some good mechanics, but seriously, I never could work out what game I was supposed to be playing as it just seemed to drop a whole heap of everything in there thinking that would make it epic. For me, it was mostly just annoying.... each to their own though.
I assume you mean the fact that Konami was purposefully trying to sabotage the development the entire time, and even had Kojima locked in his office, and didn't allow him to talk to his staff until the game was finished.
Watching this in 2024, learning that in 2015 Kojima couldn’t even legally go to the Game Awards in 2015, to now seeing Kojima take the Game Awards stage again to present his new game in 2023 to a roar of applause, makes me really happy.
Just finished death stranding and realised how great his games would be in the future
I am glad that Hideo Kojima got recognized for his achievements at the game show awards that was petty on Konami's part for not letting him receive his award but all well that ends well.Kojima got his own studios and made the stellar hit Death Stranding and Konami is doing it's own thing to put it nicely but Big Ups to Kojima.
That part confuses me. Why were they such dicks to him at the end? Why did they fuck with him so hard, if his contract was going to end anyway? Why did they waste so much time and effort in making sure he was fucked with, and went to great lengths to even hiring a lawyer to tell him to fuck off away from TGA?
Death stranding was shit
@@juanindacut why was it shit?
@@juanindacut Correction it's called Amazon Express Delivery Simulator . Deliver packages spooky stuff bah bah walk for miles and miles deliver packages again and again until you get bored of Walking Simulator.
Mahir Shahriar yea basically
when the suits get involved, people get axed, happens every where, even the indispensable become expendable
Just happened recently with cd projekt red.
@@n0zo.143 AMD got an engineer as a CEO and are now surpassing Intel. (for now) Because before she got in, AMD was near bankruptcy.
I wish Kojima would create Silent Hills game but just change the name and change a bit of other things so that Konami can't sue.
Not to defend about Konami, but what they said is partly true. There seems to be a rise in mobile gaming these few years and mobile gaming is definitely the most profitable and least risk taking way to earn money.
Unfortunately the reality is that probability of people who owns a phone are much higher than those who owns a gaming console/ PC, and it's easier for people to throw in little by little money over a long time rather than straight purchasing an expensive AAA game.
Konami didn't fire Kojima because of the mobile game debate. they fired him because he wanted MORE freedom than ever developing his own game. Konami wanted games that sell, be is mobile or console. Kojima want to make some personal project that doesn't sell commercially. Kojima is a business man, and can tell Kojima is too far gone. Death Stranding is a boring mess that you have to watch some 5 hour video on youtube just to undersand the story. it's not a game for the general audience anymore. this is what happens when you allow Kojima complete freedom, seems like he just watched a bunch of American TV shows and movies and handpicked who the actor he likes and made his ultimate fantasy game. seriously who the fuck care about Norman Reedus? has he appeared anything noteworthy besides walking dead ? back in Konami they were able to kept a leash on Kojima for this kind of stuff. I know it's popular to hate on Konmai but they simple did what's right for the company can you blame them?
@@bigz2008 Norman Reedus was a good pick if they were gonna have a nude male protagonist in the game
I prefer paying the full price once than having to pay little bits all the time, especially because the total will largely surpass the base full price at the end. Do you prefer paying 60 once or 1.500 by 50cents increments over many years? This is also why I've never played payed MMOs. It's a complete ripoff.
Death Stranding is shit... did you see any new player now? unlike other game, the sales still rising, while death stranding only last one month... Konami is right on their choice, Kojima may have skills, but on the long term for their company, it will be downfall...
@@bigz2008 Yes I blame them. Granted we dont know the specifics around what happened but if it was you say (fired for wanting freedom) why fire someone because they want more freedom? Especially if their work is still profitable. I'd rather play a Death stranding (which was mediocre but still profitable) released under Konami any day over Contra Rogue Corps, Metal Gear Survive, or a lazy (and incomplete) Castlevania Collections. MGSV was the last Konami game I bought.
The issue here is they killed their console development division leaving western gamers (who only know this side of Konami) out in the cold.
It was the Phantom Pain game that got me hooked on Metal Gear Solid. I can't believe the treatment Konami did to Mr Hideo. Not even let him receive the awards that he deserved. Now that he is with Sony, I'm looking forward on what games he will give us!
Just to be clear, Konami did to Kojima what Kojima did to David Hayter. But Kojima's -simps- fans are only mad about one of those things.
Oh, I didn't know about that. I will look it up. Thanks for the info
@@nicholasfarrell5981 Kojima showed his ambition and arrogance on many occasions. The way he was jealous and mistreated Hayter shows Kojima's diva side.
You can always tell people and videos that are Kojima simps. They somehow never mention his BS behavior. Which was a long running problem that he was known for. He would lose the facade of respect whenever somebody outshined him. Constantly playing a victim and never taking responsibility for his failures. While wanting all the credit and love for the series directed to himself
@@nicholasfarrell5981not being a Kojima simp but he wanted to replace David since 3 and he didn’t really like the English dub
@@nicholasfarrell5981hayter simps like you are pathetic. What happened to Kojima was far worse than what happened to Hayter. Kojima had already made it clear he wanted to move the game in a different direction with the English dub and Hayter's performance in peace walker didn't do him any favours. Hayter's voice wouldn't have fit MGSV at all. You're an idiot
Kojima has been proven to be difficult to work with and for making nonsensical decisions that went over budget such as hiring keifer Sutherland to essentially voice a handful of lines for a lot of money when they couldve used a voice actor for less
Most people tend to gloss over that and the fact he turned his back on David before Konami forced him out. I saw an interview where David stated he was not even contacted for MGSV, talk about a dick move!
So we got a game where only two voice actors in the entire game felt like they even gave a shit about their performance in Quiet and Huey, everyone else sounded bored and phoned in. I love the game.....as unfinished as it is (chapter 3), but the game could have been so much more with David giving his normal epic voice acting skills and a completed story.
This. Kojima is more interested in hollywood than video games. Dudes made two 7+ hour movies.
I was in Tokyo a year ago, I saw Konami logo on a lot of Pachinko machines, maybe that's what they want to make and focus on for now on.
Konami and Capcom had been making Pachinko and Arcade rigs since forever actually. Those profit margins however, are nowhere near what their console and pc titles netted them back in the day. Konami seems to be raking in quite a profit from their mobile direction. see this: www.statista.com/statistics/259748/konamis-annual-revenue-by-segment
I never even heard of Gree.
Neither do I 😂
Mobile gaming ? Theres a reason why CD Prrojekt Red has the highest stock value of all gaming companies at the moment....
cDPR will go there eventually. . . Remember, the a high stock price means it has a responsibility to it's shareholders to grow at all costs.
@@matthewbarnes7650 it already has in partnership with Spokko to make Gwent (the card game from the witcher 3)
@@zombieapocolipse69 Yeah but we like Gwent. LOL
There is nothing wrong with mobile games. But a publisher or dev. Company must not forget it's roots.
Gwent is a perfect example of how to compliment your big games with mobile games.
@Abe Tsenoh I don't know what's worse....the fact that you tried to use out of context star wars lingo or the fact that I understood you.
I’m so saddened that the dispute nearly has ripped the light of MGS out of a lot of people. Kojima is an artist with video games being his canvas
I've been playing his games since he made the first MGS. Followed his story, bought Death Straining just out of support for HK. Haven't played it yet either lol
If Konami really want to invest in the mobile gaming industry, they should split the company into two.
One will focus on mobile games, while the other will still focus on good-ol' fashion home console.
Because they are many people out there still love and rather preferred playing games on their TV or PCs instead of playing games on their phone.
That way, Konami won't become hated by the community for their terrible decisions, and Kojima would be staying in Konami for 10 or so more years.
I can still see both standpoints. Konami can't afford taking risks on binding onto one single director and his multimillion$ projects. For us gamers this might sound harsh, but for a company, that just isn't very wise.
Plus, looking at how Kojima appears in media and how often his name pops up per minute in MGS5, i can absolutely imagine that he's not an easy guy to work with nor share the power over a company-division with. I believe I know the kind of creative visionary who would just turn the world upside down to do whatever they want and looking at Konami wanting to just follow what they believed was the Zeitgeist, these ideas were just about to clash one way or another.
On the other hand theres no need to explain all the things that Konami did wrong here as this has already been shouted out over and over and I can also agree with this. What I don't understand here is, why Konami just takes a dump an all of their old beloved franchises that are pretty much the pillars on which the company were built. I mean there's no reason to do that. They can stay silent about it, they can glorify them to emphasize legacy (even if they were about to just make them disappear) or (and that would be the best option) they could just sell them out so other studios can make their take on Silent Hill. But they somehow took a wrecking ball, smashed tehir legacy and let the pieces lie there for everyone to look at and shake their heads. Maybe mobile gaming is making them so crazy rich they just don't care about anything anymore. Still this is really the most weirdest part of this.
You're wrong in one area, Konami absolutely can afford taking the risk of finding the projects of a single autour, the issue is that it just isn't profitable enough for them to view it as a worthwhile venture. The bottom line of profitability is the only factor. Konami as a company isn't dependent on game sales of any sort, they make the bulk of their profit from gambling machines and have since well before they created a game development studio. But that's precisely the problem, they don't need games, it's just one of several means to make more money, and if making more money is their only real goal, then why would they fund expensive passion projects from a prolific game director that don't earn much in comparison to the overall time, effort and cost of development, when they can fund comparatively cheap, quick and easy to produce schlock that earn vastly larger profit margins through micro transactions?
I dont think you understand the gaming market in Japan nowadays with those comments about mobile gaming. When i first arrived in Japan in 06, id see people with PSPs and DS' all the time. Now? Nothing but people using their phones to play mobile games with their awful ponzi scheme pricing (which is the same for just about every game sicne the Xbox was released and the focus shifted to online and DLC). Console gaming morphed into Mobile gaming and you dont even realize it.
Ya, I see your point, but the way Konami behaved was disgusting. There was no other reason to act like total dicks.
Who's wife did Kojima sleep with?
I know it must have been hard for Kojima to get pushed out of a company in which he invested decades of his life, but I'm actually glad it happened and I think he is, too.
Death Stranding has sold 10 Million copies, (so far), and is now getting a sequel game AND a movie made after it. 😏 I'd say Hideo Kojima had the last laugh.
@@KabbalahSherry yeah but metal gear solid is something else. It's a shame they ruined ot
Yeah, I think Konami's move in separating from Kojima's vision really alienated dedicated console players like myself and many others. Console (and PC) games were what lead the company to greatness. It's just really saddening to me that companies would turn their backs on their core audiences. With that said, I wish all the best to Konami, and I am glad that Hideo Kojima has his own new company to take charge of.
"But *Pachinko Machines* bring in profit" - Some Konami exec
You can't erase a slow build up of name and reputation just by erasing it's credits.
I hope Hideo doesn't give up on MGS. I finnished MGS V two days ago and it was amazing, after starting to play every game in the series almost 1 year ago my build up to the fifht installment was huge, and it delivered.
But now knowing that the series would be absolutely finnished with just ONE more game it's heartbreaking. I hope he can strike some sort of deal with Konami or even buy the rights to the franchise.
Great video! Would love to see you do one on Amy Hennig from Naughty Dog during Uncharted 4’s development and her being let go.
After this video, I fully committed to making videos about the development of video games, but the Amy Hennig story could be interesting to explore. Thanks for suggesting it!
ThatGuyGlen Sure thing!
Mobile gaming ruined gaming...
Did you mention the Konami was financially brutalized and horribly underperforming in the profits area while kojima was in high management positions?
That ruins the Kojima fanboys' narrative, though.
@@johnhorne3052 reality doesn't care about their narrative.
It would be beautiful if one day Kojima got the IP from Konami and got to finish MGSV under Kojima Productions and finally put to bed the series, he says the game is finished but we all know he is just stubborn and won’t admit he wanted to add a lot more
No matter how much I credit mobile games to help children be actual gamers (meaning they can play a shityy Castlevania rip off on mobile and find that there's something better) nobody can tell me mobile games should be taken seriously they're a gimmick at best and rarely have any heart put into them.
Edit: buy indie always BUY indie
The next game is gonna be about a Fed Ex employee stuck on an island. Next level package delivery.
I'm assuming you play as a shirtless Tom Hanks with a volleyball as your sidekick?
Leaves Konami to make the most divisive game this gen.
At least we're still talking about it.
Metal Gear Survive? We WANT to forget about it!
@@wchan39 What is this Metal Gear Survive?
@@fakegeek5462 Good, it's working!
@@wchan39 what is metal gear survive A forgotten and utterly garbage MG GAME
Funnily enough, I heard that Kojima himself holds no ill will towards Konami. He's thankful for all the opportunities they gave him; if he wanted to make a game, they'd just give him a team and the funds he needs. He doesn't need to make the game they want him to make first before letting him do his own project and usually wouldn't interfere too much. Most importantly, they allowed him to get experience working on games.
"Money doesn,t change people it only shows who they really are" 😢
He was one of the last few developers at the company that gave a damn about the games he made. Komoney only cares about profit.
Great video! However, I wouldn't put all the blames on Konami... As much as I hate Konami for what they have done with their franchises, I understand their motives. My family runs a small business and it's pretty cut-throat out there. If there is something that makes you more money with less risk, you just... go there.
Company rep is pretty important for future profit. I'm not sure if what they did ended up being better
Konami did really well the past few years. They actually made more money than Square Enix last year.
@@Undeviated sure but it's difficult to tell whether that specific decision led to that. They do have a ton a products. They may have had even higher profits
Leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but yeah sure. But it was unnecessary for them to passive-aggressively drag down through the mud a key company member who would become an ex-employee, gag-order everyone and remove traces of them (and by extension, a rich and relatively positive chunk of the company's history) to hide you did it, the blatantly lie about it to the planet, and lie some more when you're caught in the lie. That... all of that... that was trash, and I will never forget.
@@savvivixen8490 Yeah but have you stop to think if Konami had actually a good reason to do that?, for example a lot of people bashed Capcom for firing Keiji Inafune and for about 5 years on a row everyone thought that he was wronged, THEN the truth came out, he acted as a diva inside the company and wanted more power and money so the CEOs kicked his holy ass out.
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Knowing Kojima and how he likes to be the center of attention (because we should not forget that the guy has enough ego to have his face and name printed in every inch of the products he makes) and knowing that he had a LOT of responsability inside the company, maybe something happened at the high offices or he maybe acted as a diva like Inafune did and Konami got pissed and blastered his sorry ass into the street.
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I am NOT saying that Konami did nothing wrong, but by not giving them the benefit of the doubt behind the insane removal of Kojima's name and company from the products and events we could end up failing to grasp the actual truth behind all this. Cuz... c'mon, Konami knew that doing this would be a public relations suicide yet they did it and ONLY FOR KOJIMA in the history of the entire company (if I'm not mistaken) so... once again a REASON has to exist.
Kojoma is right about one thing with Konami is
"If you only pay attention to the immediate profits, time will make the bank lag behind and then at some point it will be impossible to catch up with the trend"
Exactly
Because the moment they made him VICE PRESIDENT OF THE ENTIRE COMPANY Konami had their worst financial years in their entire history. It's not a coincidence they immediately resorted to pachinko machines after they fired him.
Konami was always my favorite company since back in the 90's, man how they have fell from grace.
Sorry but the company is booming in Japan they are fine reeeeaaly fine
Its such a blow for gamers.Metal Gear was a phenomenon.
I remember a time a new Metal Gear game announcement garnered as much attention as a GTA game
I always felt there was some hanky panky going on between Konami and Hideo. I had a sense there was a power struggle going on between them. When I heard Hideo left/kicked from Konami people were a bit panic but I felt Hideo would land on his feet and I was right. I hope he can make another Silent Hill. I never deleted the P.T. demo🤞
for this dude, a hero of my childhood, a real artist i won't buy the MGS3 remake, but i will buy Death Stranding 2 for sure. believe that
Well to be honest you are an idiot.
when you realise that metal gear is truly dead, and that phantom pain was the last even though it was so good and good looking. :(
I kept on playing MGSV even after I had finished it just roaming the field and foltuning the hell out of everyone and everything and replay levels, for like 2 freaking months!
Even now I sometimes get a sensation to go at it again.
Actually 😭 a little at the end when he received the award, this are the people who we should be grateful for the games, not big companies like konami, EA and ubisoft, they don't care about gamers, only care about money
Will Konami end up like Blizzard? Remember when blizzard announced that the next Diablo will be only in smartphones. LOL.
Eh, they also have diablo 4 in works btw. Path of Exiles averted the backlash by announcing both POE2 and POE mobile at the same time.
My point is, blizzard problem is more than just Diablo Mobile.
Yes ofc. It's the inevitable destination of every profit seeking triple A company
"Do you guys not have phones". LOL
@@bobthebuilder5493 Crowd: *Booooo*
Presenter: *shit*
If konami is making another mobile game
Sorry but thats a boo for me
Kojima really is one of the greatest designers to ever live. Very few people grasp what it takes to make an original product like the IPs he has worked on.
🤡 Clown...
I really just want a continuation of Raiden storyline. It's been long overdue
I'll never play another konami game because they did kojima dirty
@Loneamaruq theres a big difference, did you watch the video?
@Loneamaruq that almost made sense. Why are you so triggered?
Is there any playable after? Nah.
Why Konami pushed Hideo Kojima out of the company- he kept trying to make something called “art.” It didn’t sound as profitable as a slot machine.
@ Then the company should get into the slot machine industry instead of the art industry. They lost something more invaluable than money that produced them priceless art, countless fans, and profit on top of that
@@DH-ji8lw obviously not. If what your saying is true then he would still be making games for them
@ Have you heard of Metal Gear Survive? And do you know that Konami discontinued Silent Hill? When it comes to being in the business of anything your product quality and customer satisfaction should be number one. Of course money is neccessary for a business but KFC doesn't get rid of chicken because they make more money on mashed potatoes and biscuits and still expect to stay true to it's name and be taken seriously by it's customers. Without true art, and even with more profit; an art museum is just a wealthy doodle and sketch museum at best
You're a piece of art I see 🤔😏
One was an artist, one was a business. Tale as old as time.
And folks, this is why we must stomp out the mobile gaming industry as well as shame mobile gamers.
Yeah get your *SPIDERHERO NEWYORK ADVENTURE BATTLE ROYAL FPS* ass over here
They're not real games anyway. I agree.
@@Tmalter N00B
@Loneamaruq give me one example of a modern smartphone within the last 4 years that has sold one hundred million units?
What is the best selling games, Minecraft (whose main market is the bedrock edition on mobile, but still never forgot PC's and consoles) and GTA 5, the second best selling game, which is nowhere near a mobile. If mobile games truly occupy 99 percent of the market, tell me how could these games sell?
@Loneamaruq they scrape by to survive. They suffer to get things done. But comparing world suffering to games is not exactly ideal