I Don't Want a Smash 6.
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- In this video, I describe why I feel that Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the Nintendo Switch should be the last game in its series.
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I misread the title as “Why I shouldn’t be in smash 6” which would definitely be a video to make ever
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I might make that if I stop procrastinating and finish a project for once
@@A.R_69 make what? Deez must maybe
"I don't want another Smash"
You exist in a lower plane
I'm pretty sure Sakurai said that Smash Ultimate's "everyone is here" thing could only happen once. They had to move heaven and earth to get the rights for so many different characters from so many different companies that it's basically impossible to make it happen again.
All that being said, I'd be happy to see a different director than Sakurai work on the series. Both for Sakurai's wellbeing, and to see a potentially new and different take on the series.
I don't remember where this was said, but I swear I once read in a few places or saw some videos on how apparently when Sakurai pitched the idea of every character coming back for Ultimate, he "was met with silence".
And that was for the returning reps. Like you said, the DLC characters would be torture to renew their licenses, especially with more stingy companies like Disney for Sora
Imagine if they had to get Minecraft Steve in a game where they didn’t have to pay for him. Microsoft wants the dlc money. The only company that gives characters for free is Konami Snake is in everything
Yea the guy who posted this is a moron. After 2 mins the video became pointless. Sakurai did say they’re not doing “everyone is here” IF there’s actually is another smash
To be frank I don't think we need to have another "everyone is here" situation and I think it's silly to let it stop the franchise from continuing
I understand your point but since smash has become a series for so long now I don’t think it should be the last.
me too
And what's wrong with "Everyone is here again"
That's even more hype
It's the law of diminishing return. Ultimate was so surprising because of how challenging it was to get everyone back. Even if they did manage to pull it off again, it'll be less surprising. That's not even taking into account the sheer number of legal hoops needed to get characters like Snake and Sora again
Smash 6 is inevitable tho. Smash is such a big money maker that it would just be stupid to end the series like that. Also every character returning is very unlikely due to licenscing and all that. Pretty sure that characters like sora and cloud wont make it to the next game
Yeah, pretty much. Even if Sakurai isn’t part of it, Smash makes too much money for them to say “Alright, time to shelf the series and remaster Ultimate from time to time. Good work folks”. It’s how the industry works, if money can be squeezed out of a popular IP, it’s what they’re gonna do.
@@vvlaze I don't think the alternative is to shelf the series. Ports for ultimate to each new generation alone would generate giga sales, and they can sell DLC like another fighter pass, or map pass, or even lower effort shit like more music, textures, or mechanics for the map maker, or even new alternate costumes, like skins sold in other games.
I think a smash 6 is most likely, too, but it's certainly not inevitable. They have a few ways to play it that can make sense.
Yes to this
I see them either porting ultimate making it a ultimate deluxe (although I said this about smash 4) or completely rebooting the series to be more like muti versus... which everyone hated
Or an 8 way run smash
@@Matanumi all three of those "options" are nothing more than the smash devs proving to us that they need to make smash even more ambitious
cloud is returning, stop denying the possibilities of these characters returning in the next smash game
I want a reboot with new movesets. Some of these movesets are too dated
That's what I think is going to happen, rebuild from the ground up and have constant patches and DLC like mario kart got for years.
Thank you that’s what I said
ultimate deluxe with a big story, break the targets and board the platforms, and some new characters.
IDC what happens, as long as sonic’s forward air is an axe kick
They'll keep making it as long as there is money in it. Skyrim meanwhile has the opposite side where people keep wanting the same game for every console so they keep adding it.
The expectations for Elder Scrolls 6 are so incredibly high, they're scared of actually releasing it imo.
@@mameloukwhich is fair, given what happened with Starfield, but also entirely their fault, so I blame them for that anyways lol
may as well just have the fans make it, they’ll probably do better (not even saying that fan works are better then the originals, cuz thats not always true, but I believe the fans would make a far better Elder Scrolls 6 then Bethesda ever could
A new Smash Bros can work, but, it needs to be it's own thing. Most of the roster should be different from the previous entries, and the characters that do return need to have completely different movesets. There also should be different modes, including a story mode that's formatted differently from previous story modes. This way, the next Smash Bros game won't aim to replace Smash Ultimate, but, rather, be an alternative with it's own identity.
"it's own thing" is the hardest part, since even the other platform fighting games struggle to be their own thing.
Completely different movesets? That would upset too many people. I can see updated movesets though, and more balance hopefully.
A story mode formatted differently the previous story modes? That makes a lot of sense.
NGL, I have fantasized a lot about how it could be:
Option A: A metroidvania platform with not real separation between the levels like in Adventure Mode or Subspace Emissary but one single stage with different sections, like The Great Maze but on a much larger scale, and with more vibrant colors and enemies from the actual games.
Option B: An interactive comic in the style of the N64 Super Smash Bros. cover, interrupted by playable battles among the characters, whose outcome will influence the story as well as the actual decisions made every while.
Honestly, I just kinda hope Smash Ultimate becomes a new Skyrim - Ported from system to system, with occasional new things added into it as it goes along.
0:07 shows my 2 mains
Wow you Main the best characters in the game
Mario Kart 8 deluxe made sense because the Wii U flopped. The same doesn’t apply to Ultimate
"Counterpoint: No music/fighters/stages/trophies/costumes from my favorite game have gotten into Smash yet!" -Most of us (probably)
I do think that in the event of there being a sixth game, it should only be after a lengthy sequel gap, though. This either gives the man a break or allows someone to emerge who can direct it well, even if not _as_ well as him.
I feel like smash 6 will be the straw that broke the camel's back and Sakurai might end up leaving Smash Bros
and I feel like as a result of this they might need to bring in some other people to work for smash 6 I'm Betting money on Retro Studios
No..
We Need More *Case Closed*
I think we SHOULD get a Smash 6. It would give newer faces from Nintendo’s Switch era a chance to shine, and not giving them that chance does a massive disservice to people who grew up with those games.
Imagine if you were a kid, had a GameCube, and there was no Melee. Shocking, right? You would never learn about all these characters.
Now that would be similar to someone who grew up in the modern era without a Smash 6.
What big IP's are there on Switch? Biggest games on it are Mario and Zelda.
@@beastvicious8672It's not specifically the Switch. But, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Pikmin, and Xenoblade have all been massively growing and thriving on that platform
2:27 The only way I see that happening is if the next console is not backwards compatible and even I don't think it would sell as much since unlike 8, Pretty much everyone's played Ultimate.
Another thing to note is that Smash is one of their biggest multiplayer IPs, and is usually one people expect to be on the next console. I understand that Sakurai needs a vacation, But Nintendo knows that people will buy Smash, and they're not afraid to give it to someone else if they have to.
I am expecting Ultimate Deluxe for Switch 2.
In other words, a port
Why bother doing a port of a game that can already be played on the next system through backwards compatibility?
Ultimate is already Super Smash Bros. 4 DX with extra steps.
@@Neoxon619 no
@@AidenEmerson NO
Would hate to not ever have another Smash game, but I'd also hate it if Smash 6 cut a crap ton of characters. I can see some of the 3rd party characters getting cut (and maybe being added back by having to pay for them again, which will upset a lot of people), but I will riot if they cut characters like Ridley, K. Rool, Dark Samus, or Wolf and Mewtwo (again), after waiting literal decades for most of them to make their appearance in Smash.
I believe smash 6 will instead pick a smaller roster for a soft reboot
Imagine it also has a story but more like Subspace than WoL
30 characters who pre existed in Ultimate, 7 newcomers and 8 DLC characters
I think it will start smaller, but will eventually become bigger through more DLC characters than SSB Ultimate.
@@HypercatZ 50 characters at most then the max roster is atleast half a thousand
@@smashbrosgoat You seemed a smart person for the entire first half of the sentence.
Let’s be honest, half of the people who want Smash 6 only wants it because they want Waluigi to be playable.
I want a smash 6 because I honestly think smash ultimate being the last game would be disastrous
i want a New Smash Game Because It Will Define Fighting Games And Become Even More Unique Than Ever Before
The story mode, Adventure mode or Subspace Emmisary Quest was the bestpart about Smash. I invite a new installment to venture and experience new unknowns and stories.
I agree. I would be happy with it ending at Ultimate.
Why do you even care if it ends or not,it's not like Ultimate is going anywhere.
Same here. Smash Ultimate is good enough in terms of fighter roster.
wrong, smash is very much incomplete
I would like a patch where "Echo" fighters would have unique move sets that set them apart from the original character.
Cloud's Final Smash was updated with a patch where you can have both his regular OR his Advent Children version depending on whether he's wearing his regular or Advent Children costume.
If that can be done, then it shouldn't be impossible to update their movesets with a patch.
Sakurai does need a break but I don't think it should be the main reason Ultimate should be the last smash game.
New Definitive Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Deluxe: Prepare to Die Edition
I feel like the cut characters route could be fine if they are going to add some more complicated stuff, such as custom moves for not just specials but also tilts, smash attacks and even throws. Aswell as more content like the return of sm4sh smash run, n64’s board the platforms, brawl subspace emissary or melees adventure mode, trophies, & maybe master pieces.
50 characters at release and we are good
This is reasonable, but Nintendo isn't really known for reasonable decisions.
They usally have one of the most reasonable gaming businesses decisions
Ultimate was literally marketed as the series swan song. No matter what they do with the next game, many people are going to be disappointed. It’s like if they brought Robert Downy Jr back to the MCU after he left the franchise with a bitter sweet ending to his character… wait a second.
Honestly a Smash Ultimate Deluxe will probably be the best bet they could do. Maybe with a focus on instead of all new characters, it's a focus on Echo Fighters and alternate costumes to represent new and old games, on top of new stages. Am I basically saying to make official versions of the costumes people have already made in the modding community? Yeah pretty much-
Smash 6 should keep everyone
I don't think that's possible.
no way they can make that happen
again with the unnecessary doubt, they can make it happen again
Super Smash Bros. 6 release Cancelled, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Series Finale, Super Smash Bros. Nintendo 64 Pilot.
I’m basically all but guaranteed to not play the potential Smash 6 even nearly as much as I play Smash Ultimate. Every character being in the game is simply too appealing and cool, and I can’t see it being anything but a downgrade after Ultimate. It doesn’t help that my secondary (honorary main at this point) Sephiroth, likely wouldn’t be in the next game *if* they cut out characters. Adding every character into Ultimate was both the smartest move in terms of appeal and making money, but it also caused them to step on their own tie in the long run for future games should they cut characters. Honestly, I wish Smash had stayed as just a Nintendo crossover, and not a full on multi company crossover. It would have most likely avoided character cutting, and also made it so everyone could have realistic expectations for newcomers. And again, I say this while being a Sephiroth secondary (I main Greninja)!
I genuinely hope they continue to port Ultimate forever, and just add characters to it, with updates to balancing between ports.
Im Glad That Smash Is A Multi-Gaming Crossover And Smash Should Stay As A Multi-Gaming Crossover Because It Allows Smash To Become More Ambitious And Lengendary As A Fighting Game
There will never be a higher note to end the series on again. If they ended it with Ultimate, it would almost certainly be the most satisfying ending in the long run. Everyone returned, fan favorites who were requested for years or even decades were added, and even Disney played nice to allow the winner of the fighter ballot in. This is the peak, and we can either take in how far the series has come, or start the descent back down.
HAL and the people who worked on Metroid Dread can continue the series to be honest Sakurai is not needed.
So why can't we just get a remaster of smash ultimate refining the combat and story mode content
You've said some controversial things in the past but this is the craziest one yet lol
It would be funny if smash 6 was called “everyone is gone” and it was just the original 16 characters with completely different movesets
I think the next game should be only the previous assist trophy's
I think it should be the last for a while
I'd be down for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Deluxe. With all DLC characters and stages at launch. Just like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
I actually really hope a Super Smash Bros Ultimate deluxe happens because it really wouldn’t make sense if they added another Smash Bros game, and also like you said already give Sakurai a damn break. 💀
Kinda agree with you on this one. I wouldn’t mind Ultimate being the last Smash Bros game in the series (despite how unlikely that looks) with the representation we’ve gotten with other gaming franchises. While there are a few misses here and there with representation with fighters, the game is really good and head strong (besides the online but I rarely play online anyway).
However, as I mentioned beforehand, the game still has some hit or misses with its roster. Perhaps make a deluxe version (if the next console isn’t backwards compatible) for the next console with a few new stages and fighters that didn’t make the cut beforehand (ex: mii costumes, assist trophies, spirits). Perhaps even polish up the online to be better. There’s still some stuff left that can be done for ultimate.
In the end, I don’t really mind if we either get a new smash game or if the series ends. To me, I’m just glad we got ultimate and how that game expanded the roster to be a treasure trove full of iconic fighters.
(On an unrelated note, if we do get a new smash game I at least hope it’d focus on polishing old fighter movesets though I won’t mind if it doesn’t)
I really don’t think that any of these things will be an issue or should be reasons for not making a new Smash title. Not only did Sakurai already lay out expectations for Smash 6 having fewer characters than Ultimate, a roster that isn’t larger than the previous game’s was always inevitable, right? Eventually we would reach a critical mass of characters in Smash that would be too many for a development team to top or even reproduce without sacrificing quality and balance.
We don’t need all the echo fighters. We don’t need two electric rats with similar animations for most of their moves despite playing differently in some ways. I enjoy watching all three in tournaments, but we don’t need three different versions of Link. I play a good amount of Dr. Mario and love watching JaZaR and BacoN play him, but we don’t NEED him to have a good or even great iteration of Smash (that sounds a bit blasphemous to me, but I believe it). And then there’s all the characters from non-Nintendo licenses that are a pain to secure that would just make things easier for the Smash team to leave out. But in every iteration of Smash past Melee, some characters were always dropped to make room for other new characters, and while there were plenty of people bummed about losing Mewtwo in Brawl or Wolf in Smash 4, I’d be surprised if there were people who didn’t play Brawl because Pichu wasn’t in the game, same for Smash 4 and Icies or Snake.
And finally, Sakurai’s his own man. If he really doesn’t want to do a project, he won’t. He’s been at least somewhat transparent with us about what he does and doesn’t want, and I think that some in the Smash community have taken that to mean that he’s somehow being strong-armed into this by Nintendo. As a game developer, sometimes you have to work on a project that you would rather not, and if it’s an issue of overworking, then it’s not a Sakurai thing, it’s a Nintendo thing, and we should be adamant as a community that we don’t want a new Smash game if they will be overworking any of their employees. But if we get a new project head to replace Sakurai, I’m all for it. For one, he no longer has to work on a project that he would rather stay out of (if that is still true), and for two, we maybe get a new take on a Smash entry. Each iteration has felt starkly different from the previous one anyway, so I really don’t see how the status quo would change here. Sakurai’s done a lot for us, but we don’t need him to always be there to enjoy his legacy.
If that game happens it will bomb HARD
@@eliparrott9350 excactly and people need to stop pretending that a smaller roster will help smash at all
I'd agree with this take, if they would have continued balancing the game. While still pretty balanced they gutted a couple of characters and gave other characters op mechanics.
Smash Ultimate always felt like the last game to me. Everyone is here, Sora being the last fighter, so many fan picks like banjo and ridley, it felt like it was tying up loose ends. Even if sakurai wanted a smash 6, it just wouldnt feel right to me.
If we are honest, Smash '6' or anything later will never compete with Smash Ultimate in terms of starting roster. I doubt Sakurai will be able to work on another one without killing himself and someone else will never put that much effort in.
And Nintendo knows their consumer base. They can resell all these old characters as DLC and people will buy them even if some should be in the game from the start. Popular targets I can see are most 3rd parties, Mewtwo, Zero Suit Samus, King K-Rool.
no it shouldn't be the last as people need to get over the fact not many of the series may return(if anything they should ask those companies to keep interest compared to mario kart which is just being milked/mario being a cash cow.) as the next game should be a soft reboot focusing on improving veterans & more single player modes instead of deluxe which isn't happening.
no, JUST NO!
@@smashbrosgoatyes. Its unrealistic to expect all the characters to comeback. Cuts are going to made
@@mrmelonman2893 "unreallistic" no, they can all come back in the next update of the next smash game as NOT dlc but still smash characters, unrealistic is such a asinine way of saying, "these characters are not getting in bc i said so"
@@mrmelonman2893 enough with this reboot bs
@@smashbrosgoat I mean they said themselves they don’t think everyone is here could happen again so stay off the Hopium
I think cutting roster is dumb, keep everyone. But add new moves for certain Characters. And a Great New Story Mode the play we can each level, not that World of Light board bull crap I'm still pissed off on how they did that.
thank you for speaking the truth, that is what smash should remain as, an ambitious fighting game
oh god PLEASE give me a new smash I'm so sick of ultimate's movement system
I’d be much happier with a smaller roster as long as we have more content, a big roster’s cool and all but when there’s not much you can do with it other then online then what’s the point
idk personally I've never found any of the other modes particularly fun. Would much rather have playable online for once
@@tilt9808 yeah but to be fair not everyone is online playable some people need more solo content
Also these aren’t one or the other options
I personally think the next game should have better online and more solo player content
Ultimate has neither so yeah smash 6 definitely needs to improve things
@@lestatcanada yea, I mean both take development time but there has been open source rollback for at least a decade now so it shouldn't be hard
@@tilt9808 that’s why I think it’s a good thing that the next game would have a smaller roster
I like big rosters but wanna know what I like better? Having other modes I can use characters in
If it has to be a smaller roster fine by me I always more considered ultimate a special one time thing anyways I never thought of it as the future just a cool one time thing
I think theres room for a reebot since sakauri can make a more polished game
If smash 6 becomes real
It has to have shadow And Waluigi
Keep porting ultimate to new consoles and add dlc every couple years or once a console generation
Nah we need smash 6 and that's that
Yeo what are you smoking that makes you think a million dollar game should stop? Especially when there a lot of character that where missing and the game has nothing new to offer for years there’s lots of characters people don’t even want in the game
For smash bros 6 I think the characters that were lower than a b tier would be cut and then they would be replaced with those new characters and I want to see sonic have a new moveset he could have the boost, sonic wind and lightspeed dash shadow could also have the lightspeed dash with the aura being red and becoming 10 times faster and I don't think he should be an echo fighter he is way too popular for an echo fighter it's okay to have some moves similar to sonic but also make is quite different
I actually think he should become 5 times faster with the lightspeed dash
It isnt going to be the last. Just see the box office sells comepared to the budget that made the game. They absolutely will make another one after their outrageous profit.
I don’t mind if Sakurai isn’t in the development of smash anymore when he left Kirby the games were still great if not better
Super Smash Bros. 6 Cancelled?, how did Super Smash Bros. make a tribute to FUNiMATION?, Is that why FUNiMATION moved to CrunchyRoll do to rules by Buena Vista?
Nintendo is making a 6th game. Cry about it
Well I hate to break this to you, but a Super Smash Brothers 6 will more then most likeky happen eventually for what Nintendo next console will, its just when anyones guess.
But fighting games always have new characters that's just how fighting games are😊😂
uhhhh the world doesnt revolve around you. take a seat, and try something else.
to bad it was confirmed to happen
Too bad smash 6 is gonna happen anyway
i don't want smash 6 either. what i want is just more dlc fighters. just keep them coming. screw competitive, screw balance, i just want to play as all my favourite guys in my favourite game
"Screw Competitive, Screw Balance."
Those are TERRIBLE ideas.
I'm with you and I agree with the opinion of this video's author, espeically the word "Ultimate" in the title and the "Everyone is here!" tagline.
I’m fine with a port of ultimate with more characters though
let bro retire from smash bros uncs pushing 60
Honestly a port is fine idc
crazy yap
Nah give us one more without any bullshit steve or bayo or meta knight and have it actually be fun. Cut all the lame redundant characters and add a baller story mode focusing on the smaller roster. Done.
this is the problem, you want characters to be removed in the next smash game because you don't like them, why is it so hard for people to put their unnecessary and silly biases to the side and allow smash to become a new ambitious fighting game that will define video games?
Ultimate will be the last smash game .
Grew up with all smash games since 64 (born 1997) & i know for a fact this the last game ever . If anything it will just get ported to newer consoles
Not likely.
an unsubstantiated and incredibly opinionated conclusion that is this, smash will return
All of your points suck
Why do you even care if Super Smash Brothers Ultimate will be the last game in the series or not? Its not like Ultimate is going anywhere.
Because the Smash series is easily the best and biggest crossover video game series on the market, having a dedicated fanbase since day one. Ultimate has had its time in the sun, and people very reasonably want more.
We'll its not up to you to decide if Ultimate will be the last Super Smash Brothers game or not its up to Nintendo.
no shit
I strongly disagree. There should only be ONE more smash bros game.
An expanded iteration of Melee. Ultimate is an excellent game, but Melee was and is better in such a wide multitude of ways--not just competitively.
Maybe a melee mode for Ultimate as a special mode.
Objectively only competitively, but I’d even argue against that. But apart from competitively, what about Melee is better?
@@thecatinthehat125
Better Single Player Modes and the like.
I agree melee is better than ultimate and it also my personal favorite game ever. But I mainly like it's gameplay more and it's single player modes more than ultimate's offerings.
@@user-be3qc7re9o Lots of people overlook it, but World of Light is actually pretty good. Better than melee’s single player. Ultimate also has unique classic mode routes and seven other modes and especially online which Melee does not have, so that’s pretty good single player. Plus, Smash is a fighting game, so multiplayer is the main focus anyway. And with Ultimate having so infinitely more characters and content, I believe it is objectively better than Melee. I hope this doesn’t sound rude, but nostalgia and people over-critiquing of new adaptions seems to be the only reason people like the only reason that people think melee is better. And if we are talking about single player campaigns, the best is obviously Brawl. Melee’s competitive scene is most because how janky the game is.
Well its not up to you to decide if there will be another Super Smash Brothers game, its up to Nintendo its so too bad.
Nowhere in this video did he imply he was entitled to deciding the future of the Smash series. This is a guy giving his opinion on the internet, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
still not up to him, Nintendo decides @@rangajoo
@@HappyYummmy Learn to read before commenting irrelevancy.
@@rangajoo what is up with your attitude, it is not difficult to understand that Nintendo chooses
@@HappyYummmy It's much less difficult to understand that neither I, nor the video creator, made the claim they didn't. Having an opinion on an authority does not imply authority within yourself.