Thank you very helpful guide. There is only one down side of your method which is single core performance. In cinebench, click on file on the left top and there is advance section. You can run single core benchmark. Since you overclock 4.2 and undervolt it, single core score drops. Even just undervolting without overclocking, the cpu can not boost fully. So there is no way to have cooler cpu and default performance.
Yes, games do get benefit from faster single cores. So, for example, a 4 core 8 thread processor running at 4.8 GHz is likely to produce more FPS compared to an 8 core 16 thread processor running at 4 GHz.
@@thatdude6440 Yeah, I guess also in the future games will start to take advantage of processors with more cores and threads too so like us with the 3700X should be at an advantage
I don't understand. I set the CPU Core Voltage to 1.25 V in my case just to lower the temps (Dont want to OC my CPU as i have a GPU that is weak anyway). But when I open Ryzen Master and run a CInebench test (without making any changes in the Ryzen Master software), it shows over 1.35V. Is there a place where are supposed to set the "peak voltage" in the bios?
Hello, I have a question, I have a ryzen 5 3600 and I did "OC" with Ryzen Master and the base clock speed increase to 4200 but now I want to back to clock default settings but I can't, I put in Ryzen master the option default but the speed clock base is the same 4200 when it should show 3600, how can I fix that? Thanks in advanced.
Guys if you have any CPU that supported by Clock Tuner for Ryzen it may hepl you very much in setting stable clock speed, especially if you have not very much stable CPU. You may unknowingly trying to overcklocking something that supposed to work on much lower clock speed than you trying to put.
Very clear video. Thank you. Can you do one on memory overclocking? We also have those LPX rams here. I'm wondering if boosting from 3000 to 3200mhz will change performance with the 3700x.
@@peter-kj7hc Yeah I've read few articles about the curve optimiser which should be available with AGESA 1.1.0.0 update. I haven't checked if there's a BIOS update available for my motherboard yet. If there is, I'll definitely play around with it and make a video as well!
My problem is finding how to input the right voltage so I get the right vcore voltage. I'm looking to get 4200Mhz and get voltage below 1.4v once it reaches 1.4v the Temps rise up 60c idle and fan speeds pick up.
Gamers nexus did a video on under volting a ryzen cpu using a negative voltage offset of negative 0.05 to negative 0.1 instead of using this method. Do you think using a negative offset is better?
Offset decreases the voltage usage by certain number from the current usage. For example, under low load if your CPU uses 1.3V - 0.05V offset = 1.25V under high load if your CPU uses 1.45V - 0.05V offset = 1.4V What I did in this video is override and said that no matter what happens CPU is not allowed to use voltage more than, for example, 1.2V So it all boils down to what you want to achieve actually. Some software/applications may require more voltage and thus override may not work all the time. In which case you'll have to increase the voltage limit... In short, both are fine I believe, and that's why we have the option available in the BIOS :)
Hello again! (Came from your first Undervolting Ryzen video). I’m trying to do your steps via BIOS but I have a different BIOS (X570 Aorus Master). In the CPU Voltage field, I don’t see options for Override, Offset, etc. it literally goes from Auto to specific Voltage value increments. Would picking one be the same as overriding? Does this BIOS method also override any further changes made via Ryzen Master? So if I set BIOS to 4.5GHz and 1.2v, running Ryzen Master should show that right?
@@Ellyidol If I read correctly, you said your BIOS allows you to set voltage in increments. So you could set negative value and undervolt your processor which isn't same a override(explained this above in my the 1st message). Yes. Anything done in Ryzen master will only take place if you manually apply it every time you turn on your system. Changes made in BIOS will make it permanent(revertible). So yes Ryzen Master should reflect changes done in BIOS.
I don't think that's possible. An operating system is what makes communication between human and hardware possible. If you're looking for downloading stuff from internet without installing an operating system on your hard disk, what you're looking for is a Live OS which is possible by making a live(portable) Linux USB stick which, depending on the distro you choose, generally has all the basic things like file system, essential drivers & software, and a web browser.
Bro i did aida test for 9 mins and it became stable at 84 degrees. Ryzen 7 1700 oc to 3.55ghz at 1.1 volts. Is the temperature fine or should i downclock
Unstable undervolting. Increase voltage a little bit and see. In case if you're curious, follow ua-cam.com/video/WfUbB3e9Xxw/v-deo.html to find what works for your system.
ONE DOUBT I bought my PC on DEC2020 however I saw my BIOS got numerous update but I never updated it whereas Im planning to update them now. Is it ok if I directly jump to the latest version? or should i have to install the OLD updates also. my current version is dec2020 and latest is SEPT2021.should i have to install the prev version which got released on JAN,march ,may July version to install Version which got released on sept?
Hello, I am new to this. I followed your video for my 5900x and found it to be stable at 1.375 volts. This is 100mhz under max. Is that okay to put 4700 in the cpu ratio?
@@LawAbidingSociopath69 figured out it wasnt necessary for me to undervolt cuz my idle voltage remains around 0.5-0.9v and 1.38 only when gaming or heavy task on default bios settings
Yeah that's normal, I prefer to use Ryzen master for finding out what undervolting config works and apply that in the BIOS. There's a way to make Ryzen Master apply config every time you turn on your system by clicking on a little window button in the bottom left of the software and make sure Ryzen Master is in your startup apps. But again, BIOS would be the best place to do stuff like this.
Offset decreases the voltage usage by certain number from the current usage. For example, under low load if your CPU uses 1.3V - 0.05V offset = 1.25V under high load if your CPU uses 1.45V - 0.05V offset = 1.4V What I did in this video is override and told my system that no matter what happens CPU is not allowed to use voltage more than, for example, 1.2V So it all boils down to what you want to achieve actually. Some software/applications may require more voltage and thus override may not work all the time. In which case you'll have to increase the voltage limit... In short, both are fine I believe, none of them is best or worst, just options :)
I undervolted from 1,4V to 1,2V it worked so i tried to set on ~1,18V after that my pc didnt boot. So i reseted the bios. Since them it is not possible to undervolt anymore it stays on 1.4- 1.45 v which becames to hot. I would like to set it at least on 1,2V but everytime i do this it won't boot anymore i resetet bios like 4-5 tried different methods. :( but with ryzen master its working what is wrong please help:(
That's strange. Did you try clearing CMOS? That'll hard reset your BIOS and everything will be at stock settings. Here's the tutorial ua-cam.com/video/ivEFfeSQ0SA/v-deo.html
@@thatdude6440 yeah i did this but it didn't work. I set the cpu ratio on 3600mhz not on auto and precision mode on manual... now it works but thank you!
getting different result in temperature. Undervolting it thru Ryzen master at 4500mhz @1.25V results in 65C at peak ON CB20 while doing so in BIOS with the same config gives 74C. What could be wrong?
That's strange. BIOS change should result in the same output. Do you have any other changes in the BIOS along with this one? Which might be affecting the accuracy.
Hmm strange. Sorry I don't know. But if Ryzen master's configuration doesn't reflect the same performance, there's definitely something interfering with the undervolt.
As per my understanding, the individual core voltage listed under CPU are displaying the VID, which means the voltage that the processor is requesting. What the motherboard is actually delivering is the vcore.
Thank you for the guide, cuz I was trying to guide my friend to undervolt but he is using the MSI BIOS that I am not familiar with. I've also watched another video from your channel -> ua-cam.com/video/WfUbB3e9Xxw/v-deo.html Which recently helped me to lower my 5900x ~20℃, now I can idle ~45℃ (Tested Stable @1.1875V 4500Mhz)
Thank you very helpful guide. There is only one down side of your method which is single core performance. In cinebench, click on file on the left top and there is advance section. You can run single core benchmark. Since you overclock 4.2 and undervolt it, single core score drops. Even just undervolting without overclocking, the cpu can not boost fully. So there is no way to have cooler cpu and default performance.
Oh. I'll run and share single core scores of both stock and undervolt.
Thanks a lot for sharing this information!
You're right!
Here're the single core scores:
Stock - 487 (70+ degree C)
Undervolt- 478 (
@@thatdude6440 Does single core performance really affect fps in games though?
Yes, games do get benefit from faster single cores.
So, for example, a 4 core 8 thread processor running at 4.8 GHz is likely to produce more FPS compared to an 8 core 16 thread processor running at 4 GHz.
@@thatdude6440 Yeah, I guess also in the future games will start to take advantage of processors with more cores and threads too so like us with the 3700X should be at an advantage
VERY HELPFUL FOR R5 3600 and tomahawk max, thx alot brother😁
Just what i was trying to find. Thanks for this!
Glad I helped!
Oh it was that easy?! Thanks again!
Glad it helped!
I have amd ryzen 3700x, but I don't have AMD Ryzen High Perfomance option. So what should i do ?
my pc freezes every time i apply ryzen master cpu volt and when i do it to bios, it doesn't boot, i wonder why? any known solution?
I don't understand. I set the CPU Core Voltage to 1.25 V in my case just to lower the temps (Dont want to OC my CPU as i have a GPU that is weak anyway). But when I open Ryzen Master and run a CInebench test (without making any changes in the Ryzen Master software), it shows over 1.35V. Is there a place where are supposed to set the "peak voltage" in the bios?
i have the same problem.
Thank you for this ❤
Which is your cooler
Stock wraith prism air cooler.
@@thatdude6440 dark rock pro 4 coud show better performanse, thanx!
Core performance boost on or off ?
i hv b550m ds3h and just bought 3700X aswell..is it stable for gaming with 4200mhz in 1.14v??
Hello, I have a question, I have a ryzen 5 3600 and I did "OC" with Ryzen Master and the base clock speed increase to 4200 but now I want to back to clock default settings but I can't, I put in Ryzen master the option default but the speed clock base is the same 4200 when it should show 3600, how can I fix that? Thanks in advanced.
Guys if you have any CPU that supported by Clock Tuner for Ryzen it may hepl you very much in setting stable clock speed, especially if you have not very much stable CPU. You may unknowingly trying to overcklocking something that supposed to work on much lower clock speed than you trying to put.
Very clear video. Thank you. Can you do one on memory overclocking? We also have those LPX rams here.
I'm wondering if boosting from 3000 to 3200mhz will change performance with the 3700x.
Absolutely. Thanks a lot for the suggestion. I'll make a video for sure!
Can i use these overclocks on 3600?
The 4,2 ghz you pinned in the bios, are they up all the time? Or is it the boost clock and without workload it is less?
It's like limiting the boost clock speed to 4.2 GHz. So only under load it goes to 4.2, otherwise normal.
Ah okay, i get it. Thank you so much and a nice and helpful vid.
Do u plan to make a video with the new curve optimiser?
@@peter-kj7hc Yeah I've read few articles about the curve optimiser which should be available with AGESA 1.1.0.0 update.
I haven't checked if there's a BIOS update available for my motherboard yet. If there is, I'll definitely play around with it and make a video as well!
@@thatdude6440 yes please, i just still can accept if in idle my cpu frequency stuck at max clock....
My problem is finding how to input the right voltage so I get the right vcore voltage. I'm looking to get 4200Mhz and get voltage below 1.4v once it reaches 1.4v the Temps rise up 60c idle and fan speeds pick up.
I made another video showing how to find those values ua-cam.com/video/WfUbB3e9Xxw/v-deo.html
See if that helps.
Do you use stock cooler (Wraith Prism) for this scenario?
Yes. Can't afford aftermarket cooler at the moment.
Gamers nexus did a video on under volting a ryzen cpu using a negative voltage offset of negative 0.05 to negative 0.1 instead of using this method. Do you think using a negative offset is better?
Offset decreases the voltage usage by certain number from the current usage.
For example, under low load if your CPU uses 1.3V - 0.05V offset = 1.25V
under high load if your CPU uses 1.45V - 0.05V offset = 1.4V
What I did in this video is override and said that no matter what happens CPU is not allowed to use voltage more than, for example, 1.2V
So it all boils down to what you want to achieve actually. Some software/applications may require more voltage and thus override may not work all the time. In which case you'll have to increase the voltage limit...
In short, both are fine I believe, and that's why we have the option available in the BIOS :)
@@thatdude6440 thanks man!
Hello again! (Came from your first Undervolting Ryzen video). I’m trying to do your steps via BIOS but I have a different BIOS (X570 Aorus Master). In the CPU Voltage field, I don’t see options for Override, Offset, etc. it literally goes from Auto to specific Voltage value increments. Would picking one be the same as overriding?
Does this BIOS method also override any further changes made via Ryzen Master? So if I set BIOS to 4.5GHz and 1.2v, running Ryzen Master should show that right?
@@Ellyidol If I read correctly, you said your BIOS allows you to set voltage in increments. So you could set negative value and undervolt your processor which isn't same a override(explained this above in my the 1st message).
Yes. Anything done in Ryzen master will only take place if you manually apply it every time you turn on your system. Changes made in BIOS will make it permanent(revertible). So yes Ryzen Master should reflect changes done in BIOS.
is a voltage of 1.334 normal for a stock 5600x? auto vcore is 1.334
Yes, that's normal.
But you should undervolt it.
@@thatdude6440 I would but dont want to void the warranty
Thank you :)
Hi. Thanks for the videos. May you tell me for 5600x volt and core settings?
Sorry mate, you have to find that out yourself.
Here's a video tutorial on how to find it ua-cam.com/video/WfUbB3e9Xxw/v-deo.html
As soon as I enable core performance boost on 5600x I start to get bsod any solution.
My R5 3500x can't run 4.1ghz with 1.15v is that bad?
Add more voltage.
Hey i have a question, can i download things like windows 10 on my pc even without an operating system? Or do i NEED to install it on another pc?
I don't think that's possible. An operating system is what makes communication between human and hardware possible.
If you're looking for downloading stuff from internet without installing an operating system on your hard disk, what you're looking for is a Live OS which is possible by making a live(portable) Linux USB stick which, depending on the distro you choose, generally has all the basic things like file system, essential drivers & software, and a web browser.
Bro i did aida test for 9 mins and it became stable at 84 degrees. Ryzen 7 1700 oc to 3.55ghz at 1.1 volts. Is the temperature fine or should i downclock
I do 4000mhz and 1.05V and my pc didnt give a response it didnt open
Unstable undervolting.
Increase voltage a little bit and see.
In case if you're curious, follow ua-cam.com/video/WfUbB3e9Xxw/v-deo.html to find what works for your system.
@@thatdude6440 i removed the bios battery and its ok now
after bios update i can feel a occasional laggy display, ks it due to BiOs update? please help!
Probably. To better come to conclusion, reset BIOS and see if it's BIOS update or something you changed.
Why is cpu core ratio greyed out and I can’t click? This is on an asus motherboard
Sorry mate, I don't have idea about asus mobo. Try to look into the mobo manual, maybe you'll find the reason.
Bro, my cpu ratio appears to not be clickable. Do you know why?
Oh, never heard of this problem before.
What is the value of CPU Ratio Apply Mode?
What about silicone degradation and procesor damage?
As per my knowledge, overclocking can have adverse effect on processor, not undervolting.
As many people say, undervolting is actually good.
ONE DOUBT
I bought my PC on DEC2020
however I saw my BIOS got numerous update but I never updated it whereas Im planning to update them now.
Is it ok if I directly jump to the latest version? or should i have to install the OLD updates also.
my current version is dec2020 and latest is SEPT2021.should i have to install the prev version which got released on JAN,march ,may July version to install Version which got released on sept?
Directly latest version should be fine.
@@thatdude6440 thanks man, appreciate the help 🙌❤️
FYI just because you pass a r20 doesn’t mean it’s stable.
true
Hello, I am new to this. I followed your video for my 5900x and found it to be stable at 1.375 volts. This is 100mhz under max. Is that okay to put 4700 in the cpu ratio?
and your core speed always same? that not good
bro i undervolted my cpu successfully now running at 1.28v stable but voltage not going down on idle mode it stays fixed even on amd overclocking mode
have u found a fix?
@@LawAbidingSociopath69 this fix is setting offset voltage , which i didnt mess with
@@SaifAliShugan why not
@@LawAbidingSociopath69 figured out it wasnt necessary for me to undervolt cuz my idle voltage remains around 0.5-0.9v and 1.38 only when gaming or heavy task on default bios settings
@@SaifAliShugan ok but temps are high?
Can i do the same on AMD Ryzen Master?
Definitely, here's the tutorial if you're looking for it ua-cam.com/video/WfUbB3e9Xxw/v-deo.html
1 question more every time i restart my pc profile change to normal and temp gets higher again is that normal?
And TY for tutorial
Yeah that's normal, I prefer to use Ryzen master for finding out what undervolting config works and apply that in the BIOS.
There's a way to make Ryzen Master apply config every time you turn on your system by clicking on a little window button in the bottom left of the software and make sure Ryzen Master is in your startup apps. But again, BIOS would be the best place to do stuff like this.
Very cool and usefull! 👌
As always, thanks a lot!
Hello, I wanted to ask you which one would be the best and the safest. The offset mode or the override mode? And why? Thank you :)
Offset decreases the voltage usage by certain number from the current usage.
For example, under low load if your CPU uses 1.3V - 0.05V offset = 1.25V
under high load if your CPU uses 1.45V - 0.05V offset = 1.4V
What I did in this video is override and told my system that no matter what happens CPU is not allowed to use voltage more than, for example, 1.2V
So it all boils down to what you want to achieve actually. Some software/applications may require more voltage and thus override may not work all the time. In which case you'll have to increase the voltage limit...
In short, both are fine I believe, none of them is best or worst, just options :)
@@thatdude6440 Thank you ;)
I have only offset mode and not manual mode
Latest BIOS version?
@@thatdude6440 I have set offsetmode + and 0.0500v. My ryzen 3600 run at 42 ghz with 1.145 V at 50- 60C in game
Will the clock speed and voltage lower when idle or no?
It'll cap the limit, so yes it'll go down under low load.
I undervolted from 1,4V to 1,2V it worked so i tried to set on ~1,18V after that my pc didnt boot. So i reseted the bios. Since them it is not possible to undervolt anymore it stays on 1.4- 1.45 v which becames to hot. I would like to set it at least on 1,2V but everytime i do this it won't boot anymore i resetet bios like 4-5 tried different methods. :( but with ryzen master its working what is wrong please help:(
That's strange. Did you try clearing CMOS? That'll hard reset your BIOS and everything will be at stock settings.
Here's the tutorial ua-cam.com/video/ivEFfeSQ0SA/v-deo.html
@@thatdude6440 yeah i did this but it didn't work. I set the cpu ratio on 3600mhz not on auto and precision mode on manual... now it works but thank you!
getting different result in temperature. Undervolting it thru Ryzen master at 4500mhz @1.25V results in 65C at peak ON CB20 while doing so in BIOS with the same config gives 74C. What could be wrong?
That's strange. BIOS change should result in the same output.
Do you have any other changes in the BIOS along with this one? Which might be affecting the accuracy.
@@thatdude6440 no all stock config.
Hmm strange. Sorry I don't know.
But if Ryzen master's configuration doesn't reflect the same performance, there's definitely something interfering with the undervolt.
my cheap mobo doesn't have override. sadge
Sorry dude.
Can I do the same setting in bios for ryzen 5 3600?? Please answer
Absolutely.
Hi all! Could somebody help me to find the good values for my 5800x? Thanks you !
I made another video on how to find a lower voltage for your processor here ua-cam.com/video/WfUbB3e9Xxw/v-deo.html
Is CPU vcore the same as core voltage?
As per my understanding, the individual core voltage listed under CPU are displaying the VID, which means the voltage that the processor is requesting.
What the motherboard is actually delivering is the vcore.
Thank you for the guide, cuz I was trying to guide my friend to undervolt but he is using the MSI BIOS that I am not familiar with.
I've also watched another video from your channel -> ua-cam.com/video/WfUbB3e9Xxw/v-deo.html
Which recently helped me to lower my 5900x ~20℃, now I can idle ~45℃
(Tested Stable @1.1875V 4500Mhz)
This was the worst explanation of how to undervolt i've ever seen
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Is 84 degrees after 12 mins fine for ryzen 7 1700 OC to 3.55ghz at 1.1 volts?? It keeps rising slowly. After 17 mins it was 86
That’s really high temp for this voltage, are you sure that your cooler is efficient?
@@RunningCarrot Normally while gaming it hardly goes over 65
@@dragtr0n that’s better