ASUS BIOS Guide for AMD RYZEN 5800 X3D 📈 - best Budget CPU! 🤑
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I've been using some of these settings for years now, but after changing the more advanced ones, this 5800X3D is hitting over 15100 in cinebench R23! And I had no idea this would be possible with a gen 4 nvme drive, but applications open almost twice as fast as they used to! Only experienced bios users should attempt these settings, but if they are all changed to the proper values, the gains are significant!!! Happy tuning
I think most people will benefit from just setting CO to -30. Rock solid stable for me, 4450mhz boost all core instantly, and power efficient.
Can you hook me up with your specs so I can set mine to the same?
@@Savage-zi7tw I set the core optimizer in the bios to -30 all core and that was that.
You don’t change the core ratio? I have a tuf x570 gaming plus wifi, I can change the clock speed and so much more
No need to oc a 5800x3d and you cant go past 4550 on a 5800x3d without touching bclk which i wouldnt do i have a x570 tuf wifi and it does a solid 4450 all core and 4550 single with a -30 uv and cpu temps also dropped about 20c its crazy how a -30 uv helps higher clocks while gaming less power and runs cooler@Savage-zi7tw
Same here. Works really good. I agree.
Thank you so much man this one of the best detailed and explanation of settings and tweaks I have ever seen, again Ty so much
Danke so much!!
I couldn't get my ddr4 to run at 3800 after a bios update,but NOBODY told me to do a fresh win install..
That actually fixed everything!!!🔥🔥
Danke tusen takk❤
I'm experiencing something similar right now. brother, did you do a fresh install from a USB stick, or you reset via windows settings?
@@mchfng USB.Good luck 😌👍
Dude
You are THE BEST!!!!!!
I have been tweaking my BIOS' for years.
And you have shown me the things i have been doing wrong.
Followed your setup and the difference in my machine is like night and day.
All those other so caller tweaking experts can "F" off
Your the man!!!!!!
Thank You
Yo I updated my bio today and now I have the boost to 4.5 which I ddint have for many months. But now I have 200fps less in valorant. it fix the issue with cod games i guess. But do i just install another bios for 5800x3d? I install the last one.
This is the best and most amazingly German tutorial videos I've ever seen. You remind me so much of an old German exchange student friend from highschool back in 2004!
The best video i eveeeerrrr seeeeee i use it to my new 5700x3d and it work , mark your the best thank you
Perhaps I am misunderstanding you but the way you just said "update BIOS and reinstall windows" is NOT how that works. You can update your BIOS and then go right back into Windows after the update is done and the restart sequence is completed. YOU DO NOT NEED TO REINSTALL WINDOWS EVERY TIME YOU UPDATE THE BIOS.
I will agree if you don't know what you are doing in a BIOS or how to update it, leave the BIOS alone and get someone that knows what they are doing to help you.
my son went to germany in the spring loved it. i like that cat. he has same mobo i have a x570s master. i like to over clock ram. i run 64gig on my 5800x3d tuned to cl16 3800mhz. i hold like 16gb of tabs sometimes lol.
Took a bit to go through all the settings as my Asus board(B550) had some things in different menu or missing some settings from the X570 in video. Tested a few games and worked fine. Will do more testing. And the cat is cute, I had all my five cats "helping" me to adjust settings 😂
Your English is excellent my friend. Thank you for making this in English for those of us not smart enough to speak multiple languages. I'd rather watch your video on overclocking because you break things down and explain topics, opposed to just breezing right through it with surface information only.
Absolutely superb video! Really helpful info on each setting and hilarious humour too wp my man and thank you... Liked, subscribed and followed on Twitter.
I am new to Bios and learning, recently updated gigabyte gaming X V2 bios to FCd for "5800x3d optimisation" all went well and smooth but i had already installed windows, should i now reinstall windows please?... Also i have a crap ton of those programs (Razer Synapse etc) should i uninstall all of those 1st and then reinstall windows 11?
Any help appreciated mate and please keep up the good work 👍
It is ALWAYS better to reinstall Windows after significant hardware changes, just like installing a new processor 5800X3D deserves a clean shiny Windows.
Lmao bro you are hilarious, wish you were my neighbor so I didn’t have to spend a year of my life trying to comprehend your knowledge to get my game to be snappy and stop randomly being delayed with sniping , driving me to a 5150
thank you man for helping me with my input lag and terrible 0.1% lows.💥
This video was very informative and helpful video but also the best and most hilarious commentary for a Bios setup guide
You missed one small detail in this video - what were the delays in the game, any - apex, csgo, valorant, overwatch, before all these manipulations and after? Where is the benefit of all this pain? You have a monitor measures latency, why not show clearly?
the benefits are higher lows and insane input latency and feeling on your input devs and on you axternal sound drivers/amp+dac/
thank u so much man. specifically for c state i was confused i knew it was bs but there is too many bots on internet copy pasting someones recommendations oh man. thank u
c states off will give u more stable input coz there cant be a any power state changes. like C1 or C2 which result in P1 or P2. U can google it overview how this introduce latency
Thank you for the settings love it 😁
Hi! Okay. I watched this whole video, and wrote down every single change you made, big and small. I have the 5800x3d, and I have a question. My cooling solution is the arctic liquid freezer II 360. I am wondering if I can do all the changes you made, and run with the AIO not running at 100%, 100% of the time.
P.S! I ordered 3 of the new alphacool apex stealth metal fans, (best fan on market), with intent of putting them on the AIO in replacement of the arctic OEM fans. (These should be able to run at 100% and be super super super quiet) but they are on preorder for 7 more weeks
Just curious why you want to change the fans on that cooler, I have the same one and have always ran the fans at 100%. They are rather quiet tbh.
If you wish to increase performance you need to keep the temps down on everything which means increased fan speeds. If you’re expecting max performance on a silent fan profile it’s not going to happen. It’s either one or the other, can’t have both.
I had that cooler, the aio fans plug into the aio itself right? I think it runs the fans as the same speed as your pump which you don't want. unplug the fans from the aio and put them on the CPU fan header
For me I lost performance in Tarkov, yes now it's max 70c but I have a room of 20c....and I dont want pay it with performance
I also play Tarkov, do you know why did you lose performance?
How come you enable power down mode? I thought you would not want the ram to have a power down state?
@@geraudamarger9884 yes ... disable it pls... was a mistake... all videos i make are one takes non cut :/ so this can happen
Thank you guys, I will disable!
@@Christian-lf6iy sorry for the Mistake
Can you explain why not to update bios with without reinstalling windows. Im genuinely curious.
On modern systems there is absolutely no need for that as far as i know and as far as i heard others.
The best guide ever, thanks for your time ..... Good Job Now My PC is a best¡¡¡
Love your video and everything works for me still,I have an issue though with my 4090,flickering and black screens.I did clean windows,drivers,chipset,and still nothing.Any ideas?
U should play with trfc timings as well. saw it was over 600 and 400something, need to get it down. Sure the 5800x3d is not as cranky about timings as the non x3d skus but when a game is not taking advantage of the cache it so nice to have tight timings. and ocing with pci-e to 102 or 104 depending on your mobo/cpu is not a bad thing either.
thanks for ur advice :)
Just checked for U ☺️ I rund 14 15 15 30 51 and trfc 320 :) and settings over 101 is for most people not possible because they use sata drives :)
45 minutes of rambling with no timestamps
Naaaa man.this made my 5800x playeble 🔥🔥
Works for BZ
Maybe if you had an attention span of more than 30 seconds you’d get something out of it 🤣
Excellent advice thank you , sub n liked 👍🔥🔥
This cpu is gonna be my next, IM HYPED!!!
Ich feier dich so hart. Das Video ist noch geiler und unterhaltsamer als in deutsch 🎉😂❤
i dont know what went wrong but after doing these my CB score dropped to 10k and the cpu drawed only 80w
Thanks for the video, I understand that this is for stability etc but should these settings tank my CPU benchmarks so much?
smt, enable it again rest is numa settings. Basicly u cut down any boost which also lowers ur cpu results.
thnks you got a subsciber extra.. it didnt work first time around.. (but i didnt reset to default settings) that didn't work created more latency in games (83ms) that where running fine before hand ;p @ 6.2 ms/8.3 ms @ 160 hz so i did revert to optimized default setting and i retry'd ;p perfect ;p i see only the voltage settings changed +150mv + frequentie little higher then i had before.. frequentie stayed same more or less. ow and maybe the windows update messed some things up because when it had 83ms ingame performance becauce it ran on one core, thnx microsoft!
Hey there, i know this is old video, ive been tuning my 5800x3d and i keep getting better scores on 3d mark cpu bench and cinebench r23 with cppc enabled, why is that??
Also with c-states enabled i keep getting same scores, what should i do? I get like 14950 with cppc on and preferred off and 14800/14850 with all off, what is the catch here can you explain and help? This pc is Only for gaming but idk what setting to use..
Uh I want to use all my sata ports and nvme slots and my graphics card slot. Why does a motherboard have all these connectivity options if they have to be disabled to run 1 thing or another? Its so stupid. I mean yeah higher end boards will allow it but I shouldnt have to worry about this at all in my opinion since the board has the slots for it. Also, I dont mind running my rx7800xt at x8 with pcie 3.0. It still has enough bandwidth for whatever I throw at it. So i will use both of my nvme slots.
your cat is adorable :3
Btw..what's ur take on GDM?? IS it difficult to get it stable with 1T?🤔
Hello everyone, this is a real case. I followed all the steps in this tutorial as well. Before doing the tutorial, I also had the curve optimizer set to -30, PPT at 100, TDC at 70, and EDC at 100. I decided to restart, and the PC rebooted with a warning that my CPU had exceeded 90 degrees. I got scared and turned it off. Then I tried to enter the BIOS to set everything back to default. I managed to do that, but my CPU temperature kept rising up to 110 degrees. I don’t know if I’ve killed my CPU or the motherboard. Please, I need help. I also advise against following this tutorial with all due respect to the author, especially if you are not an expert. Now my PC is unusable, and I feel really sad
The good news is your max thermal limits are 115C where the CPU will just stop to save itself, unless you disable that in PBO by setting PPT to something like 180.
I am currently running Curve Optimizer at -30, PPT and ETC at 100 and TDC at 70, it dropped my temps 13 degrees in Prime95 small FFT testing from 90C to 77C, so it works for me. You are either facing a cooler failure or there are some other settings in BIOS that are causing your system to overheat.
My motherboard is an X570 ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero, and I am using their EXTREME phase mode which uses all 16 Phases for power delivery. The binning aka "silicon lottery" of my CPU plus the capabilities of my motherboard will likely have a major influence as to my ability to undervolt vs yours.
I will also say UNDERVOLTING does not kill CPU's or systems, it can make a system unstable and cause random crashes but its incapable of killing a system. OVERVOLTING is what can kill a system.
You are the best!
Nice video bro, just one remark did anyone found bug for bios with not working in bios? Crosshair VIII HERO 4702.
thank you for this ❤
which power plan do people use after running these tweaks - i know defaults say to use balance - but after foing these will it benefit from high or ultimate in w11? thanks in advance
Looking at my qvl unsupported 4 x 32 gig ram kit
In the video you enable “Power Down Enable” but you were saying you don’t want it to power down so was that a mistake enabling it?
Digi VRM settings are pointless on a processor that doesn't really overclock. You're not pushing power above spec. Disabling TPM is silly...
Dude r you serious? Digi vrms is one of the biggest tweaks with input latency smh
@@TheOneGhost12 lol, stop.
@@NF650i ? It’s easily felt at 8k polling go try it yourself
@@TheOneGhost12 Nope , explain how adjusting phase response and LLC on a CPU running baseline has any affect on latency.
@@NF650i ??? It feels way more response? It’s not even a maybe it’s one of the best ways to reduced input latency and responsiveness even better than turning smt off
can you do a 5600x with b550m guide?
Hey man thank you for all you do, the latency is so so much better in one of the main fps I play but in Fortnite my frames per sec has tanked following all this above any idea if it’s one setting ? Tuf x570 plus -4080-5800x3d -3600 ram -16. Even on low setting Fortnite Jumps all the at into 15fps and all over the place and back to 240 again
enable smt again
Omg your a savior thanks so much 🔥
happy to help
Could you attach photos somewhere of how to modify the bios for the CPU AMD 7 5800 x3D? I have a Rog Crosshair VIII hero wifi motherboard
Could you do one for gigabyte? For the new am5 ones.
What rog board should i pair on this? B550-f wifi II is this good?
I'm using the same mobo. I'm wondering if all of this would work on any decent motherboard. Afaik B550 motherboards have less BIOS options than X570 motherboards.
placebo tweaks
lack of before and after results, tweaks that really make no diffrence
hater comment :)
nearly everyone has imporvments in latency and 1% lows :)
It’s legit. My web browsers were all dog slow compared to my 9900k un tweaked system, and now the web pages load instantly.
Do you recommend these same Digi/vrm settings for 5950x? Should NPS4 be used with this chip too?
no i have a older seperate vid online for the 5950x maybe i update it soon. for the latest bios
@@TheWhaleENG okay I see. It just seemed like you do not recommend using level 3-5 at all for any chip in general. Do u still think I should be using the digi/vrm settings for your previous 5950x video then?
@@mr.ssb335950 has different values n3 should be fine or just use auto
@@TheWhaleENG waiting for the 5950 vid
Could you explain CPPC a little bit more? Most guides say CPPC should be Enabled and CPPC Preferred Cores disabled.
CPPC should be kept enabled so windows can interface with the cpu, but Preferred cores should be safe to disable. Probably won't make much difference as the windows scheduler will usually choose the same cores as CPPC preferred cores anyway but play around and see.
@@alexfischer9493why does windows need to interface with cpu ?
Really useful video, thanks Mark. I want to ask a question. at 32:10 you said to plug the ssd into the m2 slot below the GPU. The 5800x3D has 20 pcie lanes, so 16 lanes for your GPU and 4 lanes for your ssd using the m2 slot that connects directly to the CPU (the slot between CPU and GPU basically). Is there a reason to use your recommended config instead that one i've already mentioned?. i'd like to know more about this :)
it depends how ur mainbord is build. some have 3 m2 where the 1 or 0 called slot has a seperat pcie cpu conection so the pciex16 slot has 16 some have it on one bus as u say 20 lines. It realy depends on the architecture of your bord. so look up the user manual and check which on is the slot which is not forcing ur pciex16 of you gpu to run in 8x mode.
@@TheWhaleENG cool, thank you so much!
@@yugen95 thats which port i need to use? i have 1 slot that directly connect to pci lines of chipset ,and one directly connect to pci lines of cpu
@@N1KCHANELif your cpu has pcie lanes to spare, you can use the m2 slot that connects to the cpu (the top one). Check your GPU with GPU-z if it's running correctly at x16 (middle right when you open the app, you should have something like pcie4 x16 @ pcie4 x16). However, always check your motherboard manual
@@yugen95 if it show x16 4.0 @ x16 1.1 it’s fine ?
Is there any reason why i cant see my cpu tempatures again ? Other then that it feels very responsive.
Same question here, what options to set to see temps in windows again? Or is there a reason to have this disable? (Probably latency 😂)
Do I plug my mouse and keyboard on the cpu direct usb or keyboard on chipset usb and mouse on direct cpu ?
cpu
why my 5800x3D on th b550F after make you modification work only with 8 core and not with 16T( i see this in test beanchmark and to cpuz)??☹️
Because you turned of the SMT mode that's bad!! turn it on again!
The guide is 90% very good but not perfect and you carefully have to look on differences between the moboards!
@@Serandi1987if you have tested could you please tell me the bad settings he has told us to do that decrease fps
Gen4 on or not actually now?
I have to have csm enable was legacy on. How do I make it so it can be disabled? I think it has something to do with the way windows was installed on the old board.
Sorry if I sound stupid but do you not adjust core ratio or anything or is it best to use as default? Thanks
core ratio on a 5800x3d why would i want to do this? help me out if i missed something
@@TheWhaleENG I have no idea that’s why I’m asking 🤣 I’m an absolute pc noob but I just know from other tutorials they normally OC the core ratio but I noticed you didn’t so was just wondering why. I’m assuming from your response this chip doesn’t require an OC to run very well for gaming. I wasn’t questioning you was just a question from a PC noob that’s all 💙
Would these settings work similarly for a 5900x?
Sir, excuse my ignorance. I already had my curve optimizer -30 on all cores. And my PPT TDC EDS 122 82 124, respectively. Ofc Above 4G enabled, CSM disabled, resize BAR on.
I had 14550 score on cinebench and 83 celcius max after a full test.
Then, I applied your guide in that video. And now I'm getting 14899 points, but at 92.1 celcius (76 under gaming). Any idea why the increase in temps?
Case is well ventilated with 2 140mm static pressure intakes, and 2 140mm regular exhaust. And Thermalright Peerless Assasin tower cooler for CPU.
Because you turned off power saving modes..... use your brain
@@VeekkuP why don't you use yours and actually answer my noob question.... Which ones of those options are the power saving you're talking about?
that has something to do with lclk dpm , if you disable it you are "disabling" temp and power limits and thats the reason your cpu gets hotter and has more performance
but its not worth at all if you have bad cooling
use an AIO, it'll go down 10 degrees C.
@@madrinko1517 thanks
Isn't power down enabled an power saving feature?
Will I have trouble following the guide if I have an MSI motherboard?
yes
Great One 💪 But why not ram on 4000mhz the 5000 serie should work great I have 3000s on 3800 and is 1:1:1 ? How can it be that lover MHz is better even veny you get higher scores on cinebech etc?
Because RAM timings are more important than its Frequency
@@grievetan good to know :) thanks
@@icekuba Also the 5800X3D does not care about RAM nearly as much as its non X3D counterparts, that's due to its massive 96MB of onboard Level III Cache. The best way to tweak a 5800X3D is to keep it cool (under 75C on full load) where it will hit its 4.5 Ghz single thread max and its 4.45 Ghz all core max. From there you just let it rip and do its thing, the 5800X3D does not benefit from forced overclocking (less than 1% performance per 100mhz), its pretty much undervolt, chill it, and let it do its thing.
@@Spartan536 thanks :) i did undervolting ;) and I am happy
Why turn off SMT?
Yes, right! Don't touch it, leave it on auto!👍
@@Serandi1987 Update on this - I have turned off SMT and get better performance in all games (so far) and lower system latency.
Fuck yes! I've been waiting for this!!!!
its a basic guid not 1:1 and maybe will not work the same on your system
i used your guide and my max boost freq is 4450mhz on one core instead of4550. is it normal? my mobo: asus prime 370x pro
no boost applied as we disabled it by global c states disable
Why does my ASUS B550-F Wifi II shows AI tweaker instead of extreme tweaker?
cahnge do advanced mode / view
Hallo, sag mir, gibt es eine Möglichkeit, die bclk-Frequenz von der PCI Express-Frequenz zu lösen? Weil ich beim Übertakten dieses Prozessors auf ein Problem gestoßen bin, bei dem die nvidia 3000-Serie beim Übertakten des bclk über 102.8 mhz kein Bild ausgeben kann. Mit AMD- und späteren Nvidia-Grafikkarten funktioniert alles. Ich werde sehr dankbar sein)
Mit dem richtigen Board gehts oder Graka von pci 4 auf 3 ... hatte des gleiche mit ner 3080ti aber habe keine grossen Auswirkungen bei Warzone gehabt deswegen einfach gelassen..😊
@@thomawthoma8127 Ich habe sogar versucht, die VGA-Anzeige auf GEN 1 zu setzen. Und auch der SATA-Controller deaktiviert hilft nicht...
ja bei am 5 :) habe ich bei meinem asrock taichi carara
что за охлаждение на процессоре? Впрочем не важно. у меня тепловые трубки еле теплые невзирая на допутсим 70 градусов или 80 без pbo tuner. тут можно кусок меди воткнуть и пофиг :(
This is good for x470-f gaming?
What ram frequency and cl is best with the 5800x3d ?
3600mhz cl16 or cl18
G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600mhz 16x2 CL16 but they have to be the Samsung B-die and you’re going to pay a premium for this memory kit since they stopped making it.
They make a similar CL18 kit but it uses Hynix C-Die and the timings are much worse.
Why is this cat channel talking about computers?
i put your setting to my pc with 5800x3D and evga 3070 Ti but in bunchmark i have not good answer… i dont now why work without threedts only with 8 core
Yes because you've disabled the SMT mode! Turn ist on again!
Did the same mistake. In some games it's not working well on others it's ok.
@@Serandi1987SMT Mode? where i can find to put on?.
@@laciani85 it's in the BIOS menu. Just whatch the video it's in the CPU configuration.
i find thank you@@Serandi1987
@@laciani85 no problemo bro welcome 🤗
Go final bios Settings
Subbed for cat
how much of this will work with a r7 5800x3d and 3600mhz cl16
all as i mentioned the ram has only small impact on a 5800x 3d as the chach runs at 1633mhz so even a 3200 kit would be fine and if we look up on amd web page it says
Max Memory Speed
2x1R
DDR4-3200
2x2R
DDR4-3200
4x1R
DDR4-2933
4x2R
DDR4-2667
@@TheWhaleENGi use 4x2R each 16 gig. 3600 e-die 16-8-19-16-16-38-58 CR1 gdm on. Also tuned subtiming that Bring more then CL or CR1 without gdm. tFAW is the Key. Also RFC and tRAS. SoC runs @ 1.0 V LLC high. RAM needs 1.42V.Allways try to stay Low in V in SoC!
We hate latancy 😂😂
Why does he disable SMT?
Using the physical threads gives better latency in a game (usually)...For surfing porn not so much😊
@@aleksandergjengst782yeah but unfortunately its a snake oil option that kills your fps in exchange for latency
@@grievetan yep... I'll take low latency for the cost of a few frames any day of the week tho😎
When vancer castor PRO review?
no
Numa nodes per socket auto for 5600x ryzen?
5600x supports only one numa node per socket, so it wouldn't matter. Also the tip about disabling SMT is a snake oil.
@@grievetan Why would you want to disable Simultaneous Multi-Threading? I am only 6 minutes into the video and my eye is twitching from him saying you have to reinstall Windows after each BIOS update.
Whale can these settings work with 5600?
not realy
👍👍👍simple,easy and fok it😂😂😂good job.
do 7800x3d
when the system is build i will do this
Blue screen
Brother u gonna make intel video?
300+ $ budget
Br a man dude…..tune your ram.
Let's start with the fact that I use CPU 5800x3d and Asus crosshair dark hero VIII and bdie ram. Tell me, do you overclock your processor or set it as it should work? Can you help me with the settings on my board, because I don't see these options, and I have already set the RAM, so the d.d.oc system or something like that will have to go through everything.
you should not overclock 5800X3D, you can fry V-Cache. You can only undervolt it to get lower temps and longer turbo frequencies.
@@MJRegul You forgot to mention that even with a successful overclock you get less than a 1% performance improvement per 100mhz of overclock, its just not worth it at all, even on LN2 the gains for the 5800X3D at 5.15Ghz were something like 3%.
Bla bla bla….
not really its crazy indept cpu modification ;p
Brain dead guide
wtf is this guy talkin about ?? i'd be surprise if the pc starts after all this :)))
I did one huge mistake. And now my PC is running. No light on keyboard, screen is black. I have no idea what to do
try reset bios... what huge mistake ?
Happens to me all the time friend! Turn off the power, hold the power button to cycle power out,Take out the CMOS battery for 45 seconds, cycle power again, then put it back in. Back to defaults and try again!
🥰
Dude wtf less talking
How do you know im a geek? 🫣
Would these settings work similarly for a 5800x?
no