Technically, the Witness has the biggest forehead/foreheads in the entire universe. I think that’s one reason so many find him not scary or threatening
That last symbol on Rhulks prophecy is blank. The way I see it, it means either the Witness kills everything or the Witness kills nothing. The outcome isn’t set in stone.
Or it could be the Gardener, since she’s certainly inside the pale heart as we can hear her screaming from her statue in the end of Garden of Salvation and Imaru confirms it’s her screaming for help
Honestly been thinking about the Jack Queen King 3 flavor text for some time. It probably does refer to the Hive siblings, but it can very easily apply to Final Shape. An army meets, and stands, and falls could be about our coalition or the Witness' forces. Three nobles stand and wage their hopless war can apply to Ikora, Zavala, and Cayde fighting together in the Pale Heart. In shifting madness, evil crawls refers to the Witness and their influence over the Pale Heart. One stands above the battle's roar obviously in reference to our guardian. Just my interpretation, but if this weapon foreshadowed the Final Shape that'd be nuts.
10:17 "the blade is one key to defeating the witness" God i hope we get some sick prismatic sword thatd be so cool. Either that, or like you said its talking about the enigma glaive; what is the enigma becomes a cool exotic and we use it to kill the witness? Thatd be awesome
I think the first few lines from the Osiris lore talk about Savathuns journey from before and after she parted with Oryx & Xivu. Amid endless death (sword logic) and in between space between the two comprehension freed (starts seeking the light). No longer shunned darks call brings tenebrous truth ( savathun starts understanding where the final shape truly leads) Third 4th & 5th I think talk about the Witness. They were the first touched by Traveler, then converted to one, and journey to reap the last/final shape. Too much to type but there's my theory😅
Hey, Evaze, I got something that you could make another video of! I went to the E.D.Z. and Nessus and I found some random writing on the walls of two locations from certain areas from seasons that are no longer useful yet visitable! They look like Viking language to me. If I show you what I'm talking about, could you perhaps translate them and make a video about what they say? I promise to watch the video!
It's not that Osiris got some right, and got some wrong, the one's that are right, have only become so with hindsight. The ones that are 'wrong' are just probably not clearly understood. The three siblings one, for instance, I think refers to Oryx, Savathun and Xivu Arath and their eventual fate.
So, along with Oryx, and next Xivu, Savathun is destined to die a final death? Again? Because Eris tells Osiris in a transmission, that Savathun too, will meet her end eventually. Which is becoming more likely, as we alone can wield Prismatic, which could subvert her Ghost, and Throneworld cheating her death.
In one of the Season of the Wish radio messages, both Osiris and Mara talk about how many of their predictions have been derailed by ongoing events, and how “prophecies” are not set in stone (paraphrased).
True. Gurdians have subverted fate before, and made their own destiny. Though, this, and Final Shape revealing there’s more about Light and Darkness we don’t know, it has me wondering: Could Osiris, “rekindle” his Light? And find a new Ghost, or the remnants of Sagira’s spirit, to become a Guardian again?
In my opinion the blank/neutral symbol represents the Veil seen from above or by its flat side. The Witness mentioned the Traveler suffers 2 fates, one of victim and one of perpetrator and it wants it to be free. What if he wants to free the Traveler by killing the Veil, what if the Veil is the only thing keeping the Traveler stable/from unleashing chaos? As seen in our guardians subclasses: Darkness is all about control and Light is all about Destruction. Meanwhile the "good" Traveler has the more "evil" power and the "evil" Veil has the more "good" power and both of them are life and death. That is also why the guardians as well as many others can use Darkness, to control the forces of the Light. Ever since Lightfall dropped I have been thinking, what if the blanc/neutral symbol never was a placeholder symbol, how it is used in the raid. Everytime we see it, it's because we either wait for the symbols to appear or because we purposely should not be able to see the symbol hiding under it. It functions as a curtain hiding the correct symbol under it or in other words a veil.
In regards to those prophecies with less “known” meanings at the start: 1: referencing the cutscene at the start of Lighfall 2: Lightbearers using the darkness as a power 3: Probably the original idea of Lightfall 4: Thre resurrection of Savathun? The last part could be the idea that Xivu is in the same desperate situation that Savvy once was
My thought about the Osiris Prophecies - >The Siblings cleaved could be Ana and Elsie Bray, reflections never found alone - their fates in every 'instance' are connected and even caused by each other, the Eldritch Race could be the Vex. >A war in red - could mean conflict after a great loss - the current situation after the 'loss' of the traveler. The Orphan sounding the Empire's call - the Orphan could be a Guardian without it's Ghost, and which Ghostless Guardian became high ranking in an enemy race - Eris, and she made a statement with what she did to Sivu. Mortal Angels mourning the dead could be the people freed by Holliday mourning her loss, Ironically, Lightless Light could be a Guardian using darkness classes because they lost access to the light, and having an effect on the darkness. So, Orisis using Strand after losing Sagira, and his efforts leading to us pursuing the Witness. >An Army Stands, meets, and falls - Makes me think of Rasputin and his arsenal of weapons. Three Nobles waging a hopeless war - Ana, Mara, Ikora working to get Rasputin up and ready. Shifting Madness - What Aramis did to take control of Rasputin's arsenal. The one standing above the roar is Clovis Bray. >Charnel but effulgent orb, a beacon in loathsome dark - I think it's Drifter's ship returning to the system, Feted Fetidd corpses could be the Scorn, Too long absent Gibbous spark - Could be drifter himself, or Uldren Sov. (Either way, this prophecy is about Forsaken to me.)
Right after the, “Witness drinks the Light and Darkness”, we can now assume, the symbol is us becoming Transcendent. The Gardner then bathes the cosmos in Prismatic energy after the Witness is killed, releasing Ghosts across the system once again. That’s my take anyway. Byf needs to check this out. Also, there’s Osiris’ prophecies too.
I’ve been wondering for a while now about the different darkness powers that have been shown of by the witness and I wonder whether the Witness learned Stasis to see whether or not they could freeze the universe in ‘stasis’ to achieve the final shape.
The people cleaved by time and space may be Mara and Crow, hinting at their connection, and the final one is absolutely talking about the Witness, as they treat themself as a god.
The second of the unknown prophecies sounds a lot like the Thanatonauts, guardians that killed themselves and stayed dead, in hopes of receiving knowledge
Maybe the blink at the end is The Final Shape....I mean, despite that no one nor the characters in destiny 2 know what The Final Shape even looks like! That's my guess, I could be wrong or right.
Here's the thing: that was not a prophecy. That was their plan. And they did exactly what they planned. If I'm going to say: "Tommorow I'll go to grocery store for some potatoes", and tommorow morning I decide to go and buy them, and do exactly that, does that mean I'm a prophet? 🤔
Very good point, but then why leave the last spot blank? Using you're analogy, it's like saying you'll go to the store tomorrow and buy [.....]. Why not write down what you're gonna buy in that case? Have you not decided yet, or are you just gonna wing it?
Hmm well the veil is the darkness. And it sent a beam to traveler. Witness drew the portal with its finger. So it is a light and dark interaction wherever you look at it.
One of the first things we are all told as new Guardians is the TRUTH...."the Darkness is returning and we won't survive this time" ...the Speaker Light and dark life and death both sides of a coin and we walk the edge keeping it from falling down.....the same way an ant keeps the Sun riseing by seeing it. Not at all. But the practice keeps us busy and helps us not to scream to much in terror. Destiny is a story of loss. Entropy squared.
I do not believe that the last raid prophecy is Rulk, Kill, (blank). I think it is depicts Rulk, inters the traveler, (blank). The pic 9:26 looks like a pyramid going through the traveler. I don’t see it any other way. Is anyone able to prove me wrong?
I know our ghost didnt have a symbol in the raid but I have a feeling our ghost is gonna die in final shape like, "Witness Kill Ghost" Then again. just a thought. we are also getting prismatic and everything comes at a cost, right?
Here’s a prophecy. Bungie loves the number 7. So why only have 6 subclasses? To even things up, they would need one more darkness class. ie, the teased red subclass.
10:52 I mean technically the Traveler did try to leave but it couldn't. The witness even said that the Traveler had no where left to run. Im sure if it wasn't cornered, the Traveler would've left
Bungies nonsense came true…that’s the only thing that came and will come true. They ruined the lore a while ago, everything they bring now and the last years is rubbish and totally replaceable, nothing deep, they lost the track.
The Entire Story Of Destiny! (Creation To The Final Shape) ua-cam.com/video/26ah2oCbjzI/v-deo.html
Fitting all the symbols onto the witness forehead is hilarious
Technically, the Witness has the biggest forehead/foreheads in the entire universe. I think that’s one reason so many find him not scary or threatening
@@twelved4983it’s the Cat eyes
That last symbol on Rhulks prophecy is blank. The way I see it, it means either the Witness kills everything or the Witness kills nothing. The outcome isn’t set in stone.
Technically the witness has already killed many things so "the witness kills nothing" is ruled out
Or it could be the Gardener, since she’s certainly inside the pale heart as we can hear her screaming from her statue in the end of Garden of Salvation and Imaru confirms it’s her screaming for help
☝️🤓 that’s you
Or.. since Gardians can alter " their own destiny" it doesn't allow it, as why it's blank? Like In VOG?
Kills and leaves nothing. That’s the final shape, a state of nothingness
Honestly been thinking about the Jack Queen King 3 flavor text for some time. It probably does refer to the Hive siblings, but it can very easily apply to Final Shape. An army meets, and stands, and falls could be about our coalition or the Witness' forces. Three nobles stand and wage their hopless war can apply to Ikora, Zavala, and Cayde fighting together in the Pale Heart. In shifting madness, evil crawls refers to the Witness and their influence over the Pale Heart. One stands above the battle's roar obviously in reference to our guardian. Just my interpretation, but if this weapon foreshadowed the Final Shape that'd be nuts.
The “three nobles” could also refer to Oryx, Savathun, and Xivu, and their eventual final deaths.
6:07 I find myself quoting “you know what must be done” a LOT these days lmao
Now I need a Witness wallpaper so I can put all my apps on his forehead.
You mean it's forehead?
@@dutchvanderlinde6568did bro really just correct if someone called the witness a he?
@@ajaxstardust0 yes...and?
@@dutchvanderlinde6568I mean it literally looks like a guy so does it really matter?
@ajaxstardust0 now that you mention it he's not far off, it does have multiple voices so we can't really define its gender
ok but by the fourth time you said "this might also be the red war" i instantly thought of the square hole meme
10:17 "the blade is one key to defeating the witness"
God i hope we get some sick prismatic sword thatd be so cool. Either that, or like you said its talking about the enigma glaive; what is the enigma becomes a cool exotic and we use it to kill the witness? Thatd be awesome
I love these types of videos taking a detailed look back at the story. this is top-notch.
I LOVE THESE VIDEOS IM GONNA BE SO SAD IF YOU EVER MOVE ON FROM DESTINY
Maybe he will move on if there is a new Destiny version.
I think the first few lines from the Osiris lore talk about Savathuns journey from before and after she parted with Oryx & Xivu. Amid endless death (sword logic) and in between space between the two comprehension freed (starts seeking the light).
No longer shunned darks call brings tenebrous truth ( savathun starts understanding where the final shape truly leads)
Third 4th & 5th I think talk about the Witness. They were the first touched by Traveler, then converted to one, and journey to reap the last/final shape.
Too much to type but there's my theory😅
just wanted to say ive been here for years and your the only youtuber who keeps me interested and engaged with destiny. thank you 🔥
Thanks for watching!
5:27 Good grief that was a jumpscare.
Of course it came true! The writing was on the WALL
Hey, Evaze, I got something that you could make another video of! I went to the E.D.Z. and Nessus and I found some random writing on the walls of two locations from certain areas from seasons that are no longer useful yet visitable! They look like Viking language to me. If I show you what I'm talking about, could you perhaps translate them and make a video about what they say? I promise to watch the video!
It's not that Osiris got some right, and got some wrong, the one's that are right, have only become so with hindsight. The ones that are 'wrong' are just probably not clearly understood. The three siblings one, for instance, I think refers to Oryx, Savathun and Xivu Arath and their eventual fate.
The 3 siblings may have also referenced the 3 Psions I solved in the Sundial storyline, I think the prophecies were vague on purpose
So, along with Oryx, and next Xivu, Savathun is destined to die a final death? Again? Because Eris tells Osiris in a transmission, that Savathun too, will meet her end eventually. Which is becoming more likely, as we alone can wield Prismatic, which could subvert her Ghost, and Throneworld cheating her death.
The 3 nobles prophecy makes me think of the factions and the events in season of splicer.
In one of the Season of the Wish radio messages, both Osiris and Mara talk about how many of their predictions have been derailed by ongoing events, and how “prophecies” are not set in stone (paraphrased).
True. Gurdians have subverted fate before, and made their own destiny. Though, this, and Final Shape revealing there’s more about Light and Darkness we don’t know, it has me wondering: Could Osiris, “rekindle” his Light? And find a new Ghost, or the remnants of Sagira’s spirit, to become a Guardian again?
In my opinion the blank/neutral symbol represents the Veil seen from above or by its flat side. The Witness mentioned the Traveler suffers 2 fates, one of victim and one of perpetrator and it wants it to be free. What if he wants to free the Traveler by killing the Veil, what if the Veil is the only thing keeping the Traveler stable/from unleashing chaos? As seen in our guardians subclasses: Darkness is all about control and Light is all about Destruction. Meanwhile the "good" Traveler has the more "evil" power and the "evil" Veil has the more "good" power and both of them are life and death. That is also why the guardians as well as many others can use Darkness, to control the forces of the Light. Ever since Lightfall dropped I have been thinking, what if the blanc/neutral symbol never was a placeholder symbol, how it is used in the raid. Everytime we see it, it's because we either wait for the symbols to appear or because we purposely should not be able to see the symbol hiding under it. It functions as a curtain hiding the correct symbol under it or in other words a veil.
In regards to those prophecies with less “known” meanings at the start:
1: referencing the cutscene at the start of Lighfall
2: Lightbearers using the darkness as a power
3: Probably the original idea of Lightfall
4: Thre resurrection of Savathun? The last part could be the idea that Xivu is in the same desperate situation that Savvy once was
My thought about the Osiris Prophecies -
>The Siblings cleaved could be Ana and Elsie Bray, reflections never found alone - their fates in every 'instance' are connected and even caused by each other, the Eldritch Race could be the Vex.
>A war in red - could mean conflict after a great loss - the current situation after the 'loss' of the traveler.
The Orphan sounding the Empire's call - the Orphan could be a Guardian without it's Ghost, and which Ghostless Guardian became high ranking in an enemy race - Eris, and she made a statement with what she did to Sivu.
Mortal Angels mourning the dead could be the people freed by Holliday mourning her loss,
Ironically, Lightless Light could be a Guardian using darkness classes because they lost access to the light, and having an effect on the darkness. So, Orisis using Strand after losing Sagira, and his efforts leading to us pursuing the Witness.
>An Army Stands, meets, and falls - Makes me think of Rasputin and his arsenal of weapons.
Three Nobles waging a hopeless war - Ana, Mara, Ikora working to get Rasputin up and ready.
Shifting Madness - What Aramis did to take control of Rasputin's arsenal.
The one standing above the roar is Clovis Bray.
>Charnel but effulgent orb, a beacon in loathsome dark - I think it's Drifter's ship returning to the system, Feted Fetidd corpses could be the Scorn, Too long absent Gibbous spark - Could be drifter himself, or Uldren Sov. (Either way, this prophecy is about Forsaken to me.)
Right after the, “Witness drinks the Light and Darkness”, we can now assume, the symbol is us becoming Transcendent. The Gardner then bathes the cosmos in Prismatic energy after the Witness is killed, releasing Ghosts across the system once again. That’s my take anyway. Byf needs to check this out. Also, there’s Osiris’ prophecies too.
I’ve been wondering for a while now about the different darkness powers that have been shown of by the witness and I wonder whether the Witness learned Stasis to see whether or not they could freeze the universe in ‘stasis’ to achieve the final shape.
Nezarec will play a big role in the next Dlc.
The people cleaved by time and space may be Mara and Crow, hinting at their connection, and the final one is absolutely talking about the Witness, as they treat themself as a god.
For the twins thing, I think that one might be tied to Elsie and Ana, as Elsie comes from another timeline
The second of the unknown prophecies sounds a lot like the Thanatonauts, guardians that killed themselves and stayed dead, in hopes of receiving knowledge
Maybe the blink at the end is The Final Shape....I mean, despite that no one nor the characters in destiny 2 know what The Final Shape even looks like! That's my guess, I could be wrong or right.
The taken king will rise again, I like to note that she never specifically said Oryx, just his title, and he did have at least one contender: Alak Hul
After everything happening, I was wondering if you or Byf would cover the prophecy of VOW ❤
The 2nd from last symbol look like kill but if turned clockwise, looks like a ship entering the Traveler
Here's the thing: that was not a prophecy. That was their plan. And they did exactly what they planned. If I'm going to say: "Tommorow I'll go to grocery store for some potatoes", and tommorow morning I decide to go and buy them, and do exactly that, does that mean I'm a prophet? 🤔
Very good point, but then why leave the last spot blank? Using you're analogy, it's like saying you'll go to the store tomorrow and buy [.....]. Why not write down what you're gonna buy in that case? Have you not decided yet, or are you just gonna wing it?
@@franciscoandres4907 Maybe I don't know whether there will be any potatoes to buy, so I'll buy some corn instead.
i'm so so excited to see it all unfold. great vid!
Wait...when did rhulk try to take the light through the ghosts??? I never heard that in the lore before
Now that final shape is done let’s see what the wall says now
If prismatic is both light and darkness can we assume the portal is the same element or energy as prismatic
Hmm well the veil is the darkness. And it sent a beam to traveler. Witness drew the portal with its finger. So it is a light and dark interaction wherever you look at it.
Very confused on how xivu arath would play a role in the final shape. The trailer showcased the witness and its henchmen
The Witness forhead looks like a Steam deck :D
Why is the prophecy on the witness's forehead the editor couldn't find a better place 😂😂
One of the first things we are all told as new Guardians is the TRUTH...."the Darkness is returning and we won't survive this time" ...the Speaker
Light and dark life and death both sides of a coin and we walk the edge keeping it from falling down.....the same way an ant keeps the Sun riseing by seeing it. Not at all. But the practice keeps us busy and helps us not to scream to much in terror.
Destiny is a story of loss. Entropy squared.
“Yo forehead so big, you can fit your prophecies on it”
oxa and m sun may know something
th three nobles prophesy sounds a lot like season of the splicer.
I do not believe that the last raid prophecy is Rulk, Kill, (blank).
I think it is depicts Rulk, inters the traveler, (blank).
The pic 9:26 looks like a pyramid going through the traveler. I don’t see it any other way. Is anyone able to prove me wrong?
I know our ghost didnt have a symbol in the raid
but I have a feeling our ghost is gonna die in final shape like,
"Witness Kill Ghost"
Then again. just a thought.
we are also getting prismatic and everything comes at a cost, right?
stop smoking meth
Here’s a prophecy. Bungie loves the number 7. So why only have 6 subclasses? To even things up, they would need one more darkness class. ie, the teased red subclass.
It’s prismatic subclass. Already confirmed.
Flex tape should be our next subclass
Stop coping dude prismatic is it accept it
would love to see the cabal be chosen by the light and be our allies
Saw the thumbnail.
I always did think hes got a big ass forehead.
Or hes just got a bad hair recession 😂😂😂
Now that's a forehead you can show a movie on 😂😅😊😂
5:30 😳
The disrespect that thumbnail possesses is crazy his forehead really is giant
Witness kills nothing because we mess him up
10:52 I mean technically the Traveler did try to leave but it couldn't. The witness even said that the Traveler had no where left to run. Im sure if it wasn't cornered, the Traveler would've left
Heh, thumbnail 4hed man.
two siblings: elsie and ana
Question: How many Travelers, how many Veils? The Universe is endlessly HUGE do you Seriously think there is only one of each?
That forehead 😂
Witness kill Gardener.
Bungies nonsense came true…that’s the only thing that came and will come true.
They ruined the lore a while ago, everything they bring now and the last years is rubbish and totally replaceable, nothing deep, they lost the track.