I think his ‘winona syndrome’ and sanity penalties help keep him balanced. He can be tough to learn, but once you’ve set up the right conditions he’s very rewarding. Though I’ve gotta say his soul overflow is awful with late game hound waves, especially if you try to use traps. I hope his skilltree can either stop him from picking up too many, or increase how many he can hold
i love wortox, specially when playing in a random server, being able to help people around without having to eat their food, and healing is great at keeping new people alive, he definitely used to feel a lot more "overpowered" but skill trees and updates has made it so everyone else get a world of utility and he is just...fine early on. he also needs unique crafts, anything at all he can build with souls, even a soul lantern or soul wormhole
@@yoisakikanade_ him and wilson since his iridecent gem craft is just an item that exist in the world, other characters have craft only they can use, but still crafts that are left on the world and say "they were here"
@@ChincerDanteThat’s actually kinda sad to me. Wilson is meant to be a nothing burger (at least on the surface) and Wortox is a creature of the constant
As a wortox main i have become a master bee keeper. Also something to note is that wortoxes exploration speed is hampered a lot by the need to collect souls first especially in the early game, so he isn't actually as much faster as it seems since he effectively needs prep time before he start exploration while other characters can just go. If you test a normal character vs a wortox in a race and make the wortox collect souls first the difference in exploration speed is actually not that noticeable.
I did do that some said walter was better or woodie but wortox is the most fun and it's really just based on rng but like wortox already has built in soul pockets with caves and hives they basically end up being the same but wortox usually has more loot from the exploring
Wortox skill tree should be amazing then. I made a concept of one delving into what I would like to see in wortox and I found it great to think outside the box in how I would want to manipulate and use his souls and making him a true soul weaver. But thats also kinda what sparked that creativity of him being an overall great character but having those down moments that should be in ways different!
I think the 20 soul restrictions make sense, it pervent player from just having big stack of souls. But i do agree he should have better skill for gaining souls faster
be like me, join random puplic server, do just....walk around not caring whats goin on, someone asks for reeds? just go there and get some reeds, someone died in the ruins? easy just...go there, souls are plentifull
I love wortox because he can survive without tapping into the teams resources as much. food and health can be covered just by his souls, and having low sanity all the time means that the team has a very consistent source of nightmare fuel.
i just learned that wortox can tame catcoons by giving them sticks, tho it will try to kill you first, so expect to take some hits, it will also try to kill you as soon as it's loyalty ends, so you will have to be careful, i suspect this is a glitch, so it may not be possible in the future
Now, I ask you this: Between Wormwood and Wortox, who’s using who more? Wormwood making Living Logs and Food for Wortox, or Wortox giving health for Wormwood?
I see Wortox as a worse Wanda that needs less preparation Wanda does Wortox's job better but it takes more than an entire season to be able to use it, while Wortox just starts with it I know she can't heal teammates (or even herself lmao), but she can resurrect anyone with no health penalty, at the cost of just a 4 minute cooldown Also Wanda's food penalty (no healing) is more bearable than Wortox's I think he needs an urgent buff with his skill tree, something that makes him stand out in combat, cuz other than healing he can't do anything special, even Wanda has her alarming clock
I don't play wortox basically at all but what about making bee mines for stockpiling or as a long journey snack? Also I don't think Winona syndrome is a bad thing. In magic the gathering there are cards that say things like "whenever you gain life..." And you get an effect from it. And plenty of those cards don't have a way to gain life off of them. Yes it's great and powerful when an effect and the cause are on the same card but it's also fun to build around certain cards and to devise a way to put the two together to gain the desired effect.
Bee mines are single inventory and saves 4 bees forever It could be interesting? you won't need to feed the bees to keep them from starving. but i think it just depends on what the player wants. A full stack of souls that you have to feed or 4 souls that you don't have to feed but still need to kill.
Random-ish question. I thought that killing bees from bee boxes was a bad idea since they don’t respawn? I could definitely be wrong though, so please correct me if it’s different than that.
"Fastest explorer" sounds as though it assumes you have souls at all times, which is not realistic for earlygame. You cannot rightclick teleport to map the whole world without sinking a significant time into killing mobs you otherwise would not, which might not even be situationally available. In no universe is Wortox on foot exploring faster than a beefalo rider who does significantly less maintenance to be "fast". Other than that, 5:15 is factually incorrect. There is a tuning value in the game applied to Wortox map teleports to make them less efficient than what you can get out of rightclicking twice at max range diagonally, fully zoomed out. "WORTOX_MAPHOP_DISTANCE_SCALER = 0.9, -- Perfectly placed blink teleports on a linear path to every part on the map is not realistic." The part after the 0.9x is the devs' justification for nerfing map teleports vs two consecutive max rightclicks. Furthermore, the nerf was applied AFTER a hotfix during the Wickerbottom rework beta. Previously they were equal. "Wortox offers a lot of utility" is also exaggerating lol.
But he is? Like just in regular scouting gameplay wortox gets the souls he needs to explore. get like 6 for every cave entrance you come across constantly getting butterflies and also just the intentional farming of bees frogs ect. His soul collection grows in natural early game exploration. Wotox just has the same problem as walter His gameplay is slightly different and people think it's too much out of the way to achieve. And that's fine. But it really is nice to have maybe you need to try him again with a new eye. ;)
@@DVGMedia1 Those are simply not enough to rightclick the *entire* two maps clean. Good soul sources also barely exist in the caves. You're still sluggish on average when you account all the times you are not able to afford to hop. I think I get to be able to say this as someone who played him for thousands of hours; I don't need a "new eye", Wortox on foot isn't even comparable to Wortox on an untamed beefalo when it comes to exploring. Souls are also pretty much the best food source. Tying yourself down early on to make crockpots is quite worthless. A kitchen is best made after an early bee queen kill, or if already basing and wanting a kitchen. Three souls are equal to a stew and considerably less work than fetching a crock pot when you don't want to be tied down to one stop and would rather keep exploring.
Theres always new things to learn ;) . I have thousands of hours too. Those little pockets are just perfect for the surface map. Where as caves admittedly don't have many souls. But if you play well and plan the surface covers you with that very easily. If you really go into wortox and his power its really great for everything. Getting a grass and twig farm really makes him free. sanity from honey and infinite food / teleportation.
People say that Wortox is good for Fuelweaver, and I just want to say it here: HE IS NOT. It is incredibly annoying to kill the Woven Shadows, and keep getting sanity drops from all the souls, and then getting stunlocked by FW.
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7:09 wanda being dead bc she can’t soul heal is a very smart and very funny detail to me
No wx’s were harmed in the making of this video
Aww😢
I am a simple guy who loves everything about DST, I see a DVGMedia video I click
@@ZarovBeifong do you love willow?
Wortox skill tree should have a bag of souls, like wigfrid's canister of songs
I think that's just boring, he should gain better way to gain souls, not just storing them
I think Wortox skill tree should have ability to give shadow weapons vampirism by give weapons soul
Grow 1 tile of forget-me-lots, drink soothing tea. 1 tea gives wortox as much sanity as he gets from 5x taffy. Eat as many souls as you like, have fun
I think his ‘winona syndrome’ and sanity penalties help keep him balanced. He can be tough to learn, but once you’ve set up the right conditions he’s very rewarding. Though I’ve gotta say his soul overflow is awful with late game hound waves, especially if you try to use traps. I hope his skilltree can either stop him from picking up too many, or increase how many he can hold
If you think he's overpowered, just wait until he gets his skill tree
I feel like Wortox’s skill tree should enable him to craft a krampus sack, albeit through a heavy craft using multiple boss loot items
i love wortox, specially when playing in a random server, being able to help people around without having to eat their food, and healing is great at keeping new people alive, he definitely used to feel a lot more "overpowered" but skill trees and updates has made it so everyone else get a world of utility and he is just...fine early on. he also needs unique crafts, anything at all he can build with souls, even a soul lantern or soul wormhole
Some unique craft for him would be good, maybe he can make contract with other player and gain souls from their kills or revive them
I love going to random servers bases and healing everyone to max hp then leave.
huh i never thought about that, is he the only character with no unique crafts?
@@yoisakikanade_ him and wilson since his iridecent gem craft is just an item that exist in the world, other characters have craft only they can use, but still crafts that are left on the world and say "they were here"
@@ChincerDanteThat’s actually kinda sad to me. Wilson is meant to be a nothing burger (at least on the surface) and Wortox is a creature of the constant
As a wortox main i have become a master bee keeper.
Also something to note is that wortoxes exploration speed is hampered a lot by the need to collect souls first especially in the early game, so he isn't actually as much faster as it seems since he effectively needs prep time before he start exploration while other characters can just go.
If you test a normal character vs a wortox in a race and make the wortox collect souls first the difference in exploration speed is actually not that noticeable.
I did do that some said walter was better or woodie but wortox is the most fun and it's really just based on rng but like wortox already has built in soul pockets with caves and hives they basically end up being the same but wortox usually has more loot from the exploring
goated character for me. First world with 700+ days was with him 9/10
i wonder how his insight tree will be like, i want to see what more uses souls can have
I've been curious about trying out Wortox more. This video helps a lot!
0:08 Wanda players: ☠️
Wortox skill tree should be amazing then. I made a concept of one delving into what I would like to see in wortox and I found it great to think outside the box in how I would want to manipulate and use his souls and making him a true soul weaver. But thats also kinda what sparked that creativity of him being an overall great character but having those down moments that should be in ways different!
I think the 20 soul restrictions make sense, it pervent player from just having big stack of souls. But i do agree he should have better skill for gaining souls faster
I'm a WX-78 main, good that Wortox can't kill me to get his souls XD
not the edgy rick reference and Exo's bulling
also 250th video congrats
i imagine the skill tree update for wortox would allow him to hold more souls. but hes a decently balanced character in a way
be like me, join random puplic server, do just....walk around not caring whats goin on, someone asks for reeds? just go there and get some reeds, someone died in the ruins? easy just...go there, souls are plentifull
I love wortox because he can survive without tapping into the teams resources as much. food and health can be covered just by his souls, and having low sanity all the time means that the team has a very consistent source of nightmare fuel.
i just learned that wortox can tame catcoons by giving them sticks, tho it will try to kill you first, so expect to take some hits, it will also try to kill you as soon as it's loyalty ends, so you will have to be careful, i suspect this is a glitch, so it may not be possible in the future
Where are all the Wortox mains tho? With all his amazing new upgrades still haven't seen any Wortoxes streaming T_T.
1:53 So the description didn't lie, he is literally soul-less machine)
1:06 oh wow... okay
When I play Wortox I focus on sanity foods, 3 cooked green caps/cactus gives 21 sanity allowing Wortox to eat 4 souls (100 hunger) for no sanity loss
7:00 i would disagree because you can definitely get more healing then that with webber and a bunch of nurse spiders
ooo Wormtox, Very good video!👍
Now, I ask you this: Between Wormwood and Wortox, who’s using who more? Wormwood making Living Logs and Food for Wortox, or Wortox giving health for Wormwood?
Symbiosis
Both of them
Wormwood can use the living logs from wortox to make an army of bramble traps and also a ton of bramble husks
I see Wortox as a worse Wanda that needs less preparation
Wanda does Wortox's job better but it takes more than an entire season to be able to use it, while Wortox just starts with it
I know she can't heal teammates (or even herself lmao), but she can resurrect anyone with no health penalty, at the cost of just a 4 minute cooldown
Also Wanda's food penalty (no healing) is more bearable than Wortox's
I think he needs an urgent buff with his skill tree, something that makes him stand out in combat, cuz other than healing he can't do anything special, even Wanda has her alarming clock
if you think wortox is weak, i think you're just playing him wrong
Hey mood. I can't remember where stuff is unless I put something on the map to remember it's there
Finally 🎉
That’s actually a pretty good character.
Anyone remember when balloons had souls?
I don't play wortox basically at all but what about making bee mines for stockpiling or as a long journey snack?
Also I don't think Winona syndrome is a bad thing. In magic the gathering there are cards that say things like "whenever you gain life..." And you get an effect from it. And plenty of those cards don't have a way to gain life off of them. Yes it's great and powerful when an effect and the cause are on the same card but it's also fun to build around certain cards and to devise a way to put the two together to gain the desired effect.
Bee mines are single inventory and saves 4 bees forever It could be interesting? you won't need to feed the bees to keep them from starving. but i think it just depends on what the player wants. A full stack of souls that you have to feed or 4 souls that you don't have to feed but still need to kill.
Yay, video^^
Wortox is sadly worse on console because you cant choose the soul hop and echo distance
Don't take her soul!! >:c
I always thought this might be a weird question but what is the in game reason for worries starting off with 6 souls
Random-ish question. I thought that killing bees from bee boxes was a bad idea since they don’t respawn? I could definitely be wrong though, so please correct me if it’s different than that.
They respawn like normal 90 seconds per bee.
@@DVGMedia1Ah okay thank you!
wortox is still considerably okay but he feels too shallow for what he offers and what he could
"Fastest explorer" sounds as though it assumes you have souls at all times, which is not realistic for earlygame. You cannot rightclick teleport to map the whole world without sinking a significant time into killing mobs you otherwise would not, which might not even be situationally available. In no universe is Wortox on foot exploring faster than a beefalo rider who does significantly less maintenance to be "fast".
Other than that, 5:15 is factually incorrect. There is a tuning value in the game applied to Wortox map teleports to make them less efficient than what you can get out of rightclicking twice at max range diagonally, fully zoomed out.
"WORTOX_MAPHOP_DISTANCE_SCALER = 0.9, -- Perfectly placed blink teleports on a linear path to every part on the map is not realistic."
The part after the 0.9x is the devs' justification for nerfing map teleports vs two consecutive max rightclicks. Furthermore, the nerf was applied AFTER a hotfix during the Wickerbottom rework beta. Previously they were equal.
"Wortox offers a lot of utility" is also exaggerating lol.
But he is? Like just in regular scouting gameplay wortox gets the souls he needs to explore. get like 6 for every cave entrance you come across constantly getting butterflies and also just the intentional farming of bees frogs ect. His soul collection grows in natural early game exploration.
Wotox just has the same problem as walter
His gameplay is slightly different and people think it's too much out of the way to achieve.
And that's fine. But it really is nice to have maybe you need to try him again with a new eye. ;)
@@DVGMedia1 Those are simply not enough to rightclick the *entire* two maps clean. Good soul sources also barely exist in the caves. You're still sluggish on average when you account all the times you are not able to afford to hop. I think I get to be able to say this as someone who played him for thousands of hours; I don't need a "new eye", Wortox on foot isn't even comparable to Wortox on an untamed beefalo when it comes to exploring.
Souls are also pretty much the best food source. Tying yourself down early on to make crockpots is quite worthless. A kitchen is best made after an early bee queen kill, or if already basing and wanting a kitchen. Three souls are equal to a stew and considerably less work than fetching a crock pot when you don't want to be tied down to one stop and would rather keep exploring.
Theres always new things to learn ;) . I have thousands of hours too. Those little pockets are just perfect for the surface map. Where as
caves admittedly don't have many souls. But if you play well and plan the surface covers you with that very easily. If you really go into wortox and his power its really great for everything. Getting a grass and twig farm really makes him free.
sanity from honey and infinite food / teleportation.
Especially if you use your souls for food no wonder you feel you don't have enough. Its important to mix it up.
9:11 wortox was actually the one who drives the plane!?
It all makes sense!!
Definetely a pay to win character
People say that Wortox is good for Fuelweaver, and I just want to say it here: HE IS NOT.
It is incredibly annoying to kill the Woven Shadows, and keep getting sanity drops from all the souls, and then getting stunlocked by FW.
Is DST still good? Haven't played since it became an RPG with the skill tree
Yeah
I don't see it as a problem
The skill trees as (mostly) great
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Thank god he's not
when i read that I first saw "He's Hot"
and i thought how do they know :o lol
@@DVGMedia1 huh
I feel this lmao
@@daril975 I read your comment as "thank got he's hot" for the first time instead of the word not. just dumb dyslexia moment you know. lol
2nd
Wes is better
1st comment
I changed my mind on wortox being pay to win when I saw Wanda… she, she is pay to win