Thoughts on beat mastering: Take it from an Engineer (the I-unfortunately-went-to-school-for-it-and-mixed-for-over-15-years type engineer). There's a ton of BS info out there and I'm happy he's clarifying these things. If you're mastering your beat to impress an artist or label or you're simply going to upload it to a player for your beat store, then by all means do it. But please also have your stems or a 2 track version with no limiting (mastering) ready to be processed later so it can be a SONG. For beat battles you wanna go all in, Mix and Master that shit cause you want the maximum optimal loudness. Sometimes when you send beats, the artist or label have others in the queue ready to go so I get that, but if you MIX LOUD (saturation and clipping at different stages among other things) you begin to notice that there's actually no need to use a limiter to squeeze the life out of a track unnecessarily . I understand the "ego of the producer" and the need to mix your own shit but if you can work with the engineer, the outcome is always 10 times better, because there's access to many different parts of the song if any minor changes need to be done. If you're sending stems, include your "reference mix", if you simply want the artist to record so this can be sent to mastering then you'll notice that by MIXING LOUD you won't need to do anything else. People still send a limited version of a 2 track beat and they call it mastering. If someone is going to jump on your beat the mastering should ONLY and I mean ONLY happen at the final stage of the SONG and not the Beat. Just mix the beat loud and don't limit it and you'll be fine. Check my UA-cam channel where I've started uploading content @Wavescentralstudios My goal is to answer questions about my whole analog gear, routing, processing, mixing and mastering. It's not that hard, there's just too much misleading info out there and I appreciate ProducerGrind for this.
Thank you so much for your competent comment on mastering. I have a couple of questions just to clear everything up for myself. Will be thankful if you answer: 1) When Eestbound mentions -8 to -7 lufs as a competitive loudness level, is that short term lufs, integrated lufs, short term max or momentary max? (General loudness of my beat or loudness in the loudest part of my beat). 2) I usually like cranking my kick and 808 into a soft clipper. But when I turn volume down and turn clipper off, (for stems export), my mix sounds obviously different (I have 12 db of difference between my kick and clap (say -9 db for a kick and -21 db is a clap), while mixed loud with clipper on it's like 3 db of difference between ones (0 db for a kick and -3 db for a clap)). Should I send both clean quiet stems and clipped ones or clean stems and clipped wav will be ok?
Eestbound is a fucking GOAT. OG. Along with wondagurl, their beats on soundcloud got me into producing yearrrrrrs ago. 9:00 I need to hear this thoroughly, like my beats usually at 0DB in Ableton, I recently got Fab Filter Pro L2 for limiting and learning how to use it, I need a lesson by eestbound fr.
Being unique is something a lot of producer's miss. Stop trying to make cubeatz, frank dukes, southside, pyrex, wheezy, nardo wick, 4pf, melodies and make some shit that resonate with you.
Yeah i been planning on getting that rupert neve satellite 5059 analog summing mixer too. Shit fireeee🔥….. also looking at that ssl x desk summing mixer, it’s a lil bit cheaper.
My favorite podcast I listen every day to an episode , but you guys been slowing down on the interview content .. spread out to different genres, meet and interview popping producers from the underground scenes, you guys put a lot of focus on producers landing industry placements but there’s a whole poool of producers like myself who you’ve Inspired that are killing it with some of the biggest artists in the underground scene . Just a thought 🚀
Watch some tutorials bro there are many ways to achieve loudness cause you can turn it up but then it will clip so leveling all the sounds properly is crucial
I'm a big fan of his production, but there was some of misinformation in this video. Mastering, LUFS, distortion @ -8LUFS, the job of a mastering engineer, & more. I wish there was a more educated discussions on this, or just leaving these topics alone if not able to provide detailed factual explanations on things.
He actually did a very good overview of what occurs during the mastering process. The trick is learning how to mix properly. As the saying goes " You can't polish a turd!"
@@BlackWidowMusic He did the best he could in a short amount of time, but it really wasn’t that much of an overview. I’d stick to the Pros on YT that make a career off this craft solely.
See this is the confusing shyt I be talking about, I got these cats talking about Mastering Beats but then I was told by @MixBusTv that there is no such thing as mastering a beat, he said you can only master a song with vocals on it 🤷♂ iyiyi
Turn up all producers around the world - Lil B
Salute based god 😎
TYBG!
TYBG
Lil B the gawd
i'm so hyped. antidote was the reason i wanted to produce beats and since then eestbound was always a huge inspiration
same
exact same. hearing the way they flipped the sample is when I knew I wanted to do music.
This man and wondagurl is the reason a lot of us starting making beats 🐐🐐
MY INSPO FOR MY WHOLE JOURNEY!! SHOUTOUT WONDAGURL AND EESTBOUND FOR MAKING NEW TRENDSETTERS!!
They inspired switching up my style
same
Thoughts on beat mastering: Take it from an Engineer (the I-unfortunately-went-to-school-for-it-and-mixed-for-over-15-years type engineer). There's a ton of BS info out there and I'm happy he's clarifying these things. If you're mastering your beat to impress an artist or label or you're simply going to upload it to a player for your beat store, then by all means do it. But please also have your stems or a 2 track version with no limiting (mastering) ready to be processed later so it can be a SONG. For beat battles you wanna go all in, Mix and Master that shit cause you want the maximum optimal loudness. Sometimes when you send beats, the artist or label have others in the queue ready to go so I get that, but if you MIX LOUD (saturation and clipping at different stages among other things) you begin to notice that there's actually no need to use a limiter to squeeze the life out of a track unnecessarily . I understand the "ego of the producer" and the need to mix your own shit but if you can work with the engineer, the outcome is always 10 times better, because there's access to many different parts of the song if any minor changes need to be done. If you're sending stems, include your "reference mix", if you simply want the artist to record so this can be sent to mastering then you'll notice that by MIXING LOUD you won't need to do anything else. People still send a limited version of a 2 track beat and they call it mastering. If someone is going to jump on your beat the mastering should ONLY and I mean ONLY happen at the final stage of the SONG and not the Beat. Just mix the beat loud and don't limit it and you'll be fine.
Check my UA-cam channel where I've started uploading content @Wavescentralstudios My goal is to answer questions about my whole analog gear, routing, processing, mixing and mastering. It's not that hard, there's just too much misleading info out there and I appreciate ProducerGrind for this.
Thank you so much for your competent comment on mastering. I have a couple of questions just to clear everything up for myself. Will be thankful if you answer:
1) When Eestbound mentions -8 to -7 lufs as a competitive loudness level, is that short term lufs, integrated lufs, short term max or momentary max? (General loudness of my beat or loudness in the loudest part of my beat).
2) I usually like cranking my kick and 808 into a soft clipper. But when I turn volume down and turn clipper off, (for stems export), my mix sounds obviously different (I have 12 db of difference between my kick and clap (say -9 db for a kick and -21 db is a clap), while mixed loud with clipper on it's like 3 db of difference between ones (0 db for a kick and -3 db for a clap)). Should I send both clean quiet stems and clipped ones or clean stems and clipped wav will be ok?
Eestbound is a fucking GOAT. OG. Along with wondagurl, their beats on soundcloud got me into producing yearrrrrrs ago.
9:00 I need to hear this thoroughly, like my beats usually at 0DB in Ableton, I recently got Fab Filter Pro L2 for limiting and learning how to use it, I need a lesson by eestbound fr.
Thank you again for acknowledging me 😎🦅
You're the goat bro
🐐
Being unique is something a lot of producer's miss.
Stop trying to make cubeatz, frank dukes, southside, pyrex, wheezy, nardo wick, 4pf, melodies and make some shit that resonate with you.
this hit me hard!
but what can we do that doesnt sound like any of those guys?
10:45 soundgoodizer is just presets of Maximus. It’s actually meant for mastering.
Truth
Knowledge is the key to success!!!! Never forget that.
This interview came at the perfect time. Major gems on this. Thank you. Big things coming this year.
Resonated a lot with what he said and stands for. Let’s stay true to what our feelings
Really respect and appreciate people like yourself who give their ti and expert knowledge so others can benefit and enjoy soft
Yeah i been planning on getting that rupert neve satellite 5059 analog summing mixer too. Shit fireeee🔥….. also looking at that ssl x desk summing mixer, it’s a lil bit cheaper.
You guys will get there soon. Just keep practicing I'll see you guys at the finish line
Fuuuuck this is so legendary I rememeber always listening to lostpath and his other beats walking and skating to highschool, such a legend my book 🔥
Aye this one of my favorite producers. I ain't listen to him in a long minute but he's nice nice, immo watch this whole Thang
This was a great interview.. Salute to all the producers. 💯
Appreciate yall we need more producer podcast like this man on soul !
Excellent video. Clearly explained all the basics to get started on soft soft. Thanks
My favorite podcast I listen every day to an episode , but you guys been slowing down on the interview content .. spread out to different genres, meet and interview popping producers from the underground scenes, you guys put a lot of focus on producers landing industry placements but there’s a whole poool of producers like myself who you’ve Inspired that are killing it with some of the biggest artists in the underground scene . Just a thought 🚀
If you wanna step your game up, learn more music then what you already know
DOPE INTERVIEW 🔥🔥🔥⚡⚡⚡📈📈📈
Gems for days in this interview. Thanks for posting. 🔥
The come up is coming
Are him and Wondagurl still cool?
TB ashamed of playing clarinet is funny as shvt🤣
lmao
That navigate cover is Fucking unreal 🥲😭🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I’m a music tech nerd this is fire
Quarantine brought here also! lol best of luck bruva. Lets see if we can do sotNice tutorialng productive with tNice tutorials down ti!
my music is blowing up right now, speaking it into existence 🗣🗣
thanks PG and Eest this was the best
This is the best episode I’ve seen yet! Also, never new he co prod “Freaky.” One of my fav Thug tracks
Good interview!
great advice & interview 🔥🔥🔥
The goattttt!
Eest and wondagurl the reason I make music fr
damnnn yall got a legend on here, fr a true pioneer to hella producers
wondagurl too
super dope interview bro
Eestbound is forever goated
Fruity slicer is perfect for boom bap drum chops
dude tNice tutorials is super good! subbed
Your producer fav producer !
Thank you for this one always supplying please do OZ
This was fire💯
huge interview!
Cold Part is the Vice Principal made me play clarinet Because I Got into too much trouble. So they put me in the Band rather than kicked me out haha
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🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
btw damn why didn’t I find this vid sooner
🔥🔥🔥🔥set up
Let that dude leak all the fiya he want!! I need it lol
I TOLD HIM TO SIGN ME AND I WONT STOP WORKING UNTIL I EITHER GET THAT OR A COLLAB!
can you do an interview with Oz ?
what was the headphones they was talking bout ? i think he said senheiser hd 250 but which ones exactly 🤔 anyone got a link to em?
Good interview
Bass..... I luvz me some Bass
In person lessons in my area $200 a session. . Sticking to UA-cam piano lessons
A little different on the call but I like the grind .
🐐
GOAT
Dont buy the scarlett check out those new UA interfaces! built in 1176 sim for roughly same price!!
What’s the name of that headphone amp?
FRE GAMEEEEE
some 808s out of key are because the drum kit wasn't tuned.
Wait.. Eestbound is Dutch?!
I have a question how do I turn up a beat without mastering it, for anyone who wants to answer?
Watch some tutorials bro there are many ways to achieve loudness cause you can turn it up but then it will clip so leveling all the sounds properly is crucial
Soft clipper and add a limiter
Soft clipper at the last slot on the master channel.
Thanks!
where dylan @
Bruh if you producers are still paying money classes and tutorials after seeing this video just quit😭😭
Facts.
My soft Roll GMS don’t soft like yours. My hurt my ears
So if somebody hops on a beat and u take out what they do later and make a better version. would yall still give em credit lmao
Hey y'all what's -8 LUFS in dB?
1 LU = 1 dB
Depends on dynamics, -8 Lufs doesn’t necessarily equate to a specific db
W mom
I'm pretty sure I'm not gay, but tNice tutorials man with Nice tutorials damn handso voice is sure ly about to change that lmao
Is he Mexican Dutch?
I'm a big fan of his production, but there was some of misinformation in this video. Mastering, LUFS, distortion @ -8LUFS, the job of a mastering engineer, & more. I wish there was a more educated discussions on this, or just leaving these topics alone if not able to provide detailed factual explanations on things.
Yeah a lot of people don’t have a resume of high profile mastered releases but speak on the topic anyway🤷🏾
He actually did a very good overview of what occurs during the mastering process. The trick is learning how to mix properly. As the saying goes " You can't polish a turd!"
@@BlackWidowMusic He did the best he could in a short amount of time, but it really wasn’t that much of an overview. I’d stick to the Pros on YT that make a career off this craft solely.
@@BlackWidowMusic I respectfully have to disagree with you. If a mastering engineer only compresses/limits and EQ's then why do they even exist? lol
23:04 oh my gosh we say this in techno too don't put everything on the grid or your drums will sound robotic and not have any groove.
trash software.
See this is the confusing shyt I be talking about, I got these cats talking about Mastering Beats but then I was told by @MixBusTv that there is no such thing as mastering a beat, he said you can only master a song with vocals on it 🤷♂ iyiyi
the formula on how to make your own sound lmfao 😂🤣😭
ANIDOTE CHANGED MUSIC. LIFE. EARS. IMMEDIATELY. FAHSO THOUGHT & WANTED IT TO BE PND & I WAS HOT THINKIN TRAV WAS RUNNIN OFF.
Huh