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I didn't think it was possible, but Matt's style of delivering a message gets more and more polished every time. Regardless of the subject at hand, he is very eloquent and effective. I really enjoy these debate videos 👍
I was disturbed to find a 'chain pray' (sic) from one of my American friends on Messenger. I sent back a link to the American Red Cross pointing out that prayer is just hot air without a donation to those being prayed for. No reply so far, and I'm expecting to be defriended, but I don't care. From my vantage point in Europe I can hear my cash talking more loudly than the prayers of hot air.
pd4165 really? because from my vantage point in america, i can only faintly hear my cash telling me to trust in god while it's being drowned out by the sound of hot air whining as it escapes from the holes in theistic arguments. HALP! ._.
Sooo... My body? Nature? Oh, or maybe the *Universe.* None of what you said is a requisite for a creator. I can create a clock, but that doesn't mean I'm the one maintaining it or demonstrating benevolence to it. In fact, I can make it a self-maintaining clock.
Not believing someone's claim does not equal being close minded. It's not our problem if people like you who claim to have that relationship can't even demonstrate that the "person" they are claiming to have a relationship with is actually there. Claiming you have to believe it first before you can "experience it" is textbook 101 con man bullshit. Especially when multiple people claim different (sometimes opposing) things about this "person".
You sound like that kind of cheesy inspirational quote stuffed into every Disney movie ever. You say you can demonstrate it, then bloody do it. I want to see hypotheses, experiments, graphs, fucking *science.* Anecdotes and rhetoric can only get you so far. To actually *progress,* you need to make math of your claims. And for the record, I've already tried doing that once before in my life. All I learned was that the Universe doesn't care about me, or you, or anyone. You're not special because you think that you're 'enlightened.' You're no closer to the truth than anyone else, and I'm certain that no creator of universes would want a relationship with what crops up within those universes.
Hey Matt. You're one of my Heroes, just wanted to let you know that you've helped me, made me laugh, and inspired me to provoke thought in others, more so than arguing with them. You, Tracie, Jen and Jeff have all been great influences on the one life I get. Thank you. Just for your own personal notes of achievement(if it means anything) you are by definition a civil rights hero. All of you, but you more than most. I love you, man. Thank you for existing.
Matt.....Very relieved to hear that you and Beth are OK. I was concerned for your, and everyone at TAEs safety, and thought of you often during the storm. Hope all is well with our friends at Atheist Debates and TAE.
Matt, thank you for doing what you do. It takes balls to challenge the status quo as well as centuries of stubborn custom. Please continue what you do! Cheers!!
Hello Matt, I watched a UA-cam weather forecast about the next big wind heading your way. Sensible forecast up to the point that the weather guy put up some stats about how significant storms whose names begin with the letter "I" were apparently more deadly.... Keep up the good work, regards from the Shetland islands (where hurricanes hardly ever happen)
Funny that Seventh Day Adventists (the church i was part of) kind of learned from this failed "end of the world" predictions and now just say that "no one knows the day nor the hour". They just keep things as vague as they come with the signs like wars or earthquakes, but forgetting that Jesus said that it would happen in the apostles lifetime, and the mental gymnastics they engange on to work around these verses is incredible.
It has been a pleasure to watch Matt start from public access TV and now rise to the point where he is sharing the stage with Dawkins and Harris. He is the BEST at what he does.
As it happens, I saw the 2017 eclipse from exactly where the paths of that eclipse and the 2024 eclipse intersect. Except for the demon, I didn't notice anything unusual.
I was in the path of totality in Orangeburg, SC. We fortunately had clear skies. The eclipse was beautiful! I was on a college campus watching it with a group of scientists. My love for science and nature made that moment almost spiritual for me. I'm an atheist, but that was a natural event that I could witness and enjoy with other like-minded people. The joy and wonder I felt could be described as spiritual. Did anyone else feel this way?
Adam and Eve our first parents I was at one time a Christian. I lost my faith by trying to strengthen it with study. "study to show thyself approved". All it did for me is cause more unanswerable questions and fill me with more doubt. I finally got to the point where I realized I could no longer consider myself a believer without proof or evidence, I couldn't believe it. If you want to respond, we can have a dialogue as long as it stays civil.
Cults obsessed with death tend to be the first to declare end times scenarios. While they worry about an unclear demise, the rest of us are trying to lead healthy, safe and considerate lives. Who should be considered more moral in this sense? The cosmic gambler or the earthbound realist?
One of the most religious states in the USA gets flooded and none of the famous antitheists who live there seem to have been the worst effected. What's the excuse this time Pat Robinson ?
*+Danny Snee* The previous mayor of Houston was a lesbian and this one is African American? I know he blames homosexuals all the time. Maybe the new mayor is a devil worshiper like all of those Haitians were.
The fact that xtians use the signs of the cosmos to predict the end times shows me that their religion is just another form of astrology that their book condemns
I was thrilled to see the 2017 eclipse in South Carolina with clear skies! I originally had planned to see it not too far from where you were. The morning of I took a gamble and changed our plans to drive to the middle of the state. The bet paid off! Sorry you got clouded out in Charleston.
FYI Matt - the place where the two paths of totality cross 7(and a half) years apart is an almost hidden little town in Illinois named Makanda (about 40 miles from where I witnessed the '17 eclipse).
Matt, you do great work .Have you come across ''the Debunking Handbook '' by J .Cook and S. Lewandowsky ? It contains excellent ideas , 6 pages , downloadable .
As a lesbian I find it absolutely hilarious that I and those like me are allegedly so all powerful that we can control weather events with our fabulousness. Lol
Sigh.... quite right, good catch. You were wrong to feel insulted. I wanted you to reflect on your'e obsession with your sexuality and your'e need to announce it. It's tiresome.
We don't know what causes lightning, therefore lightning must be caused by angry gods. It is a divine sign of our impending doom! Call our prayer line right now, and have your credit card ready!
Kudo's sir. Your parting message is one we need to remember and use, OFTEN. It is through the fruits of Science, that we CAN help those suffering the vagaries of storms and weather. Pray yields nothing tangible for those in need, and only soothes the conscience of those who can't be bothered to make any other effort. They can congratulate themselves for "caring"....while offering nothing of substance to aid those who desperately need it....
Matt, I was told that the storm you recently had in Texas was a sign from god and the purpose was to take your show off the air. Unfortunately he told me this after the show was cancelled last Sunday :-))
The thing that's sad is that people can make some of the worst decisions of their lives by looking for a sign from "god". Not just joining an end-of-days cult, but, praying about which job to take, who to marry, or things like that can result in making illogical choices that bite you later and effect decades of your life. Normal, intelligent people who've been brainwashed by magical thinking can end up going down these paths. It's not like only stupid people can be conned.
Actually there is a point every 27.55 days where the Moon causes a total Solar Eclipse, it's simply that in more than 70% of these cases, the shadow (Umbra) *misses the Planet Earth COMPLETELY* and because the Moon's orbit is an inclined plane relative to the ecliptic of the Earth, by about 5 degrees, there can be two to five visible totalities every year.
Matt, if there is a partial solar eclipse somewhere, then there is a total solar eclipse somewhere else nearby. There is a total solar eclipse pretty much every year---just usually not in America or even the continent of America. Sometimes it's on the south hemisphere. I think the number is somewhere around 1 total solar eclipse every 18 months. It is then you have a partial eclipse in nearby regions.
para-quote: A measure of an individual's worth, comes not of events occurring in your life, rather how you deal with those events. I find that relevant to this video
I have seen total solar eclipses. (I highly discourage looking directly at the sun). I have seen orange "Blood Moons". I have seen "shooting Stars". None of any of this impresses me much. I find the night sky quite boring. A good rain storm, with lightening, and thunder is far more interesting.
I saw the eclipse in Salem, Or. Perfectly clear weather. Having seen the eclipse, I could fully understand the terror someone would feel in seeing this happen if they didn't understand what was happening. I'm sure that there have been cultures that performed human sacrifices when they say this happen, and if they did they would breathe easy seeing that it worked. I'm sure they would have made every effort to preserve this solution, ether writing it down, if they had writing, or making sure it was remembered by those responsible for the remembering the history of the tribe. What can you make of seeing something bad starting to happen, doing SOMETHING, that could be ANYTHING, and then that bad thing gets better, how can we know that what we did had any effect at all?
I enjoyed the 90% eclipse in my backyard with my preacher neighbor, his wife, and his grandson. We could enjoy the power of an eclipse without pretending some god had a special message in an event that could be predicted far in advance. Of course, he is a mainline pastor from a denomination that accepts science. I might believe an eclipse has a message if it happens tomorrow, but then again, maybe there is something missing from my understanding of science.
There must be a Creator of life forms because it is impossible for chemicals combine and form a life form like a cell. It is observable even today that a living cell could only come from another living cell.
How do they distinguish signs from God from signs from Satan? Or from signs from other deities. Or from coincidences. Or from natural things, if I may be so bold.
How is it possible to know, to verify, that anything, let alone something, is " a sign from God" if, as alleged by his apologists, he, or maybe she, is independent of space and time. How do we determine which of the millions and billions of cosmological events which happen every day are a sign, and which are not. If God in his magnificence orchestrates all cosmic events how do we distinguish between those that are, so to speak, regular non-sign events and those that are intended as signs by a deity who apparently expects us to interpret cosmic events as signs without further corroboration? If the moon splits in two as the result of a collision with an asteroid is that a sign from God or not? Perhaps it indicates that we'd better buck our ideas up on recalcitrant earth or we're in for a similar fate. But how do we know that unless God tells us that's what it means. And if he has to tell us what his intentions are in order for us to interpret the meanings of his signs why doesn't he stop beating around the bush and tell us to our face?
The August 21 passed over Yellowstone National Park and the new earthquake zone. And the eclipse hit the west coast at the same time that the sun set on Israel. It exited at the 33rd parallel. So there are lots of coincidences that Christians believe it is a sign. When Jesus died, the area went dark. They had another eclipse. And he said that the wicked and adulterous generation would only get the sign of Jonah which many believe that was the resurrection of Christ. But the Christians who believe that the eclipse was a sign say that there was an eclipse over Ninevah before Jonah came along. And the one in 2024 will cross over the earthquake zone so that is why many Christians believe that judgement is coming.
At about 5:00 of your video you claim that Sir Isaac Newton was mocked. Isaac Newton and Robert Hooke had butter arguments, but I don't know of Newton having been mocked. What is your evidence that "people" mocked Newton? I'm willing to learn.
Adam and Eve our first parents thanks for the invite and concern. i've read the bible and i see no reason to believe the supernatural parts. but thanks anyways.
A note on eclipses. There is an astronomical imaginary point required to calculate an eclipse. This is called the moon's NODE. It is the point where the orbit of the moon crosses the imaginary plane created by the Sun and Earth. A SOLAR eclipse happens when the MOON, SUN and NODE all meet in their orbits. A lunar eclipse would have the SUN and NODE on one side and the MOON on the other. This imaginary point (NODE) rotates around the Earth a little over every 19 years. There are actually two NODES calculated, one for the moon crossing from "UP" to "DOWN" and one crossing from "DOWN" to "UP". Nothing to do with Matt's presentation, just, I hope. an interesting tidbit.
And....Once again, Humanism takes the high road. Send thoughts toward whomever, but actually do something as well. Matt isn't saying don't pray, he is saying, "Don't pretend that praying is doing something."
Also, eclipses fall on well established patterns. Ancients predicted eclipses with nothing more than observation and math (no accurate model of what was going on). If 7 years was important, it has happened many times before.
If I knew about the fbb, I would have donated to that cause. I dislike the red cross for reasons I won't get in to here but they were already on the ground and my father lives in Houston. If I had a dollar more to spare I would give it.
The black horse and rider who carries the scales (Libra/Autumn) will be arriving in a matter of days. The earth (Joseph) will soon be wearing a coat of many colors in the Northeastern states.
What is the difference between Pat Robertson claiming that an eclipse or hurricane is a message from "God" warning about the evils of non-heterosexual intimacy and a prehistoric shaman claiming the chicken bones told him the best time to hunt for woolly mammoths?
"ridiculous ideas are by definition deserving of ridicule" I always thought that was a weird argument Like, "ideas that are deserving of ridicule are by definition deserving of ridicule" Well, yeah, no shit
Wouldn't the Aug 21st eclipse have been a perfect opportunity for "God" to prove he existed, by causing it somehow NOT to happen, and in doing so refute what scientists had accurately predicted?
Matt, I must confess that the "Miracle of Fatima" in 1917 in an interesting one. I've looked at all the ways of debunking this but they just do not fit. If only a few hundred people were there this would be easier, but the fact that tens of thousands witnessed this makes it quite an interesting case. It would be churlish for me to try and suggest some kind of collective hallucination, especially on the basis of the amount of atheists who were in attendance and their subsequent testimonies and conversions. From an objective standpoint, it does seem that the sun did appear to break cosmic laws (at a localised level) at that specific time and specific place, as was prophesised. I cannot explain how their soaking wet clothes were dried in an instant. The Press were there and the event was reported in the newspapers. The solar phenomenon was also witnessed independently by people several kilometres away who had no knowledge of the of the event. Given the facts, it's certainly a head-scratcher. I've looked at all the counter-arguments, but they seem at best a stretch and at worst absurd.
@Skydaddy Myth-Busters Thanks, I had already looked into that, but I've seen other photos from the Press that show rain and the crowd with umbrellas. It still seems perplexing that the many atheists present who simply attended attested to the miracle and also that the solar phenomena was witnessed by others who were unaware of the event several kilometres away. I agree there are indeed some inconsistences in the gospels but having looked into them I must confess that they seem to be pretty small and mainly due to translations. I've done a lot of detailed research into the Fatima incident and it remains a complete anomaly it seems to me.
Thanks. The difficulty for me Skydaddy started when began when I started looking into the cosmological and teleological arguments. After doing that, it seemed much more likely for the existence of a God than not IMHO. The statistical probabilities (even within the multiverse principle) challenged by stance as a non-believer. From a biblical perspective, the whole Christian philosophy basically hinges on one event; the resurrection. Accounts from historians verifying the exponential rise of Christianity following the death of Jesus Christ is hard to dismiss, especially as the Jewish nation rejected the very notion of the resurrection outright. Such a radical and sudden "about-face" could only have arisen if there were hard evidence of the event as they had already seen countless false prophets come and go. I speak to you respectfully when I say there are valid reasons for believing in Christianity.
@Skydaddy Myth-Busters Skydaddy, no need at all for the conversation to turn hostile. I know where you're coming from and I'm sure you're probably a nice, intelligent person. My non-Christian friends consider me a pretty level headed chap, but it's absolutely fine if you don't want to respect my views - I will certainly continue to respect yours. It's completely up to you what you believe but there's nothing wrong with us debating. Please try to understand that scientific evidence isn’t the ONLY type of evidence. Many truths exist that we cannot prove through physical evidence but are a fact. Consciousness being one. We don’t have physical evidence that life is meaningful or that murder is wrong. These statements are true, but not because we have found physical evidence to support them. The same is true for the love you have for your partner, mother, father, brother, sister, friend....you can't actually prove your love for them at all. Even if you exhibit the usual behaviours that come with loving someone, how can a cynical person be sure there isn't some strange ulterior motive? Just because they can't "see" your love (or indeed taste, smell, hear or touch it) doesn't mean your love doesn't exist. You can't find a plastic cup with a metal detector! Having said all that, I do think that are some supernatural events that demand attention. As I've already said, nobody has ever managed to provide a rational explanation for the eye witness testimonies of the many atheists who attended the Miracle of Fatima and attested to the awesome power of miracle. Not to mention those who knew nothing of the event and were several km away, yet also independently witnessed it. Why dismiss out of hand these two groups of people given that they had absolutely nothing to gain from it? I'm not sure why you consider it a trap, but there is and has always been One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. This was the church founded by Jesus Christ Himself 2,000 years ago. Have a good evening.
@Skydaddy Myth-Busters Not at all Skydaddy, I'm enjoying my conversation with you. No, push back is good....it's just that the tone of your replies seems a little condescending and contemptuous, but that's fine (I'm sure you haven't taken a dislike to me personally...actually, maybe it's best if I don't ask that question LOL! ) It's a shame that you seem unwilling / unable to debate with me in a rational manner and respond to the specific points I've already raised such as the sudden and exponential rise of Christianity in a Jewish nation that outright rejected the concept of the resurrection. I was also hoping for a counter-argument for the hundreds of atheist testimonies after Fatima, also the verification of the event from the independent witnesses who objectively reported the phenomena several km away and didn't know never mind care about the event. I must confess I've become a little bored with the usual monologue of untenable arguments and the long held atheistic fallacies from various people about the Catholic faith you see. Perhaps you're were rushing, but if you care to re-read my last post you'll see that I didn't actually say that consciousness proves God. However, I DID give this as just one of example of something that certainly exists in the absence of any empirical evidence. Ask the best neurologist in the world and they'll be the first to concede this. Let's turn the tables for a second. What if someone were to say to you that consciousness is nothing more than an absurd, unverifiable, magical and delusional figment of your imagination? You get my point. Friend, you seem to know very little about Canon Law. Like I said, there is one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. The different rites in the Catholic church simply embrace different traditions, the important thing is that these rites all remain in full communion with the Holy See. Yes, they come from distinct cultural backgrounds and from all corners of the earth, yet each of these twenty-four Churches all profess the same Catholic faith. Within these traditions, is the same unbroken Tradition (big “T”) from apostolic times. So....there we are. If you honestly feel that the Gospels are nothing more than a bunch of fairy tales I would recommend you read "Can We Really Trust the Bible?" by Craig Blomberg. Funnily enough, he's one of my Protestant brothers. You appear to like all things rational, so I've suggested this book due to his pragmatic approach in drawing together the huge number of supporting manuscripts (over 15000 by the way) along with the additional evidence cited from non-religious historians and scholars. I noticed you seem to associate faith with "fear". That makes me pretty sad and is not my experience at all. Maybe I should get on to this after your next response. I hope you are doing fine today.
@Skydaddy Myth-Busters It's disappointing you are consistently ignoring the information in my posts Skydaddy. I'm seriously starting to lose faith in your objective rationality! As I've already said, there is as a huge amount of historical evidence for the resurrection. Please don't take my word for it though, why not research it yourself. The journalist Lee Strobel did exactly this. A vehement atheist, Strobel was absolutely determined to disprove the resurrection of Jesus Christ and he set out to do just that. However, his final analysis of all the evidence rocked his world to the core. Check out his book "The Case for Christ" (or if you prefer, watch the movie of the same name). As I've said before, the whole theology of Christianity rests on the resurrection. If anyone can disprove the resurrection, rest assured I'll be the very first to give up my faith. But all the evidence is totally to the contrary. Pardon me, but you seem very contemptuous towards people of faith, yet you've presented to me absolutely no arguments to show that Atheism is true. On the other hand, I've given you several arguments (including scientifically verifiable ones) in support of Christian Theism. I was hoping that you would actually engage in debating my points rather than going off on different monologues. You have some pretty warped perceptions of the Christian faith. It had a very distinct start 2000 years ago thanks to Jesus Christ alone. It is not based on any other imaginings, thoughts, philosophy as you try to claim. You ridicule the Holy Trinity, even though this comes right from the teaching of Our Lord Jesus Christ. You say that if people choose to disobey God, He will send them to Hell. That's plain wrong - we chose Hell for ourselves. There's no limit to God's unfathomable mercy, apart from what we limit ourselves. If someone totally rejects God and wants nothing to do with Him in this life, what makes you think their sentiments would change in the next life? Hell is the eternal separation from God and, as such, is exactly what such souls desire. We ultimately get what we want....isn't that fair?? Of course, things are not always black and white, so there's the matter of Purgatory. Incorrect. Consciousness is not observable. Please Google this. One cannot look inside someone’s head and see their feelings and experiences. We know that consciousness exists not from observation and experiment but by being conscious. The only way we can find out about the consciousness of others is by asking them, we cannot directly perceive their experience, we can only ask what they're feeling. This is just one example of something that exists that you cannot see, touch, taste, hear or smell. I'd like to see you trying to prove consciousness in your so called 'court of law'. Like I said, you cannot find a plastic cup with a metal detector. I'm not sure why you think I would hate any particular part of science. Science is wonderful and is a brilliant resource that God has given us. You try to pit science against religion, but I say the two are not at all incompatible with one another. In fact, it's directly thanks to verifiable scientific studies that the cosmological and teleological arguments for God exist. Did you know it was a Catholic priest, Georges Lemaître, who discovered the Big Bang? Furthermore, science reveals that the initial conditions of the universe were fine tuned for the existence of intelligent life with a degree of precision and delicacy that simply defies human comprehension. For example, if the atomic weak force were altered by 1 part out of 10 to the 100th power, it would not have permitted a life-giving universe. Not to give any mention of the other variables. Or perhaps you have an aversion to quantifiable statistics too? By the way, I'm still awaiting your thoughts about the testimonies from the many atheists who were in attendance at Fatima and also of those who independently witnessed the miracle several km away. Sorry, but God alone is ultimate truth. In Christianity, this is expressed through the person of Jesus Christ, God incarnate, who is the way, the truth and the life. Yes, crimes are committed by Christians as is the same with atheists. We are ALL broken and in need of Christ's redemption. If you have any doubt of God's love for you, look no further than the Cross. You may not believe in God, but He still believes in you.
Matthew 22:36-40 King James Version (KJV) 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
There was a man in my Christian office, that thought the end times were going to start in 2012. He did the whole end times prepper thing, and ended up spending a lot of money on stuff he'll never use. This same man, who was an elder in his church, believed that black people were from a separate less intelligent race and not part of God's chosen people! I don't think he had ever met a black person. Needless to say, I was shocked to my core. There are all kinds of religious nuts out there, and some of them have a big platform to spread their hate. We have to shut them down.
Grandma Mo Says No, we don't. Regardless of how wrong he is, he has a right to speak as long as he's a peaceful thinker. If he starts to become violent, then sure, take away his platform. Until then, he has a constitutional right to freely speak his mind. It's censorship to wrongly shit people up no matter how wrong or stupid they are. Are you against ANTIFA? If so, you should understand why free speech needs to be free. If not, then I can't change your opinion because you've already made up your mind, like a lot of mindless Christians and Muslims.
Obviously the hurricane was the direct result of Rick Perry praying for rain for Texas. Sure, that was 5 years ago but God answers prayers in his own time, right Christians?
+Adam and Eve our first parents So you have no problem that Rick Perry prayed for rain and God answered with a flood that killed dozens of innocent people, caused billions of dollars in damage, and left thousands homeless? What kind of God do you worship?
These kind of events (eclipses) are on a long list of things that were the impetus for gods by primitive people. If it could not be explained (at the time, and it couldn't) then the gods did it, was the only alternative.Strange how people still use this "god" thingy to bolster their ignorance, or flat out denial of all evidence to the contrary presented to them by Science. I can just imagine what they conjured up the first time they saw a platypus, or a two-headed turtle, or fish/birds falling from the sky (due to a tornado or waterspout ) ........ ~8^)
The horse and rider (Sagittarius) is horsie and rider in Revelation. White horsie = spring equinox (spring), Red horse = summer solstice, (summer) black horsie = fall equinox (fall), and pale horsie = winter solstice (winter). Taurus, Gemini, and Cancer = Age of gold (Saturn).... Leo, Virgo, Libra = Age of Silver (Jupiter),....Scorpio, Sagittarius, and Capricorn = Age of Copper/Brass/Bronze (Venus).....Aquarius, Pisces, and Aries = Age of Iron (Mars). The black horsie will arrive this month (September) are you ready???????????
I living in South Africa, 500km from an ocean. No hurricanes, no tsunamis, no earthquake, only floods my part of the country are flash floods which are child's play compared to others around the world. How is God supposed to give us signs?
Noah is Saturn, and "god" Uranus was made into a meanie. Ham is Jupiter, Shem/Sem is Pluto, and Japheth is Dagon-Neptune. Saturn = time and Uranus is before time existed. Jesus is made to say, "before Abraham (Saturn-time) was born" I Am. We can blame Jesus for the flood.
you know, supernovas are boring n natural, burning bushes that aren't burning is where its at, translating to 3 spared cents on the christmas tree lighting.
I didn't think it was possible, but Matt's style of delivering a message gets more and more polished every time. Regardless of the subject at hand, he is very eloquent and effective. I really enjoy these debate videos 👍
god loves me best, he always agrees with me
God is punishing you for not changing to the metric system!
I wouldn't touch that comment with a 3.048 meter pole!
I was disturbed to find a 'chain pray' (sic) from one of my American friends on Messenger. I sent back a link to the American Red Cross pointing out that prayer is just hot air without a donation to those being prayed for. No reply so far, and I'm expecting to be defriended, but I don't care. From my vantage point in Europe I can hear my cash talking more loudly than the prayers of hot air.
pd4165 If thinking nice thoughts about people actually worked, I would have a lot more lady friends😉
pd4165 really? because from my vantage point in america, i can only faintly hear my cash telling me to trust in god while it's being drowned out by the sound of hot air whining as it escapes from the holes in theistic arguments. HALP! ._.
My grandmother sent me the same prayer chain
Next time quote Madalyn Murray O' Hair: "A single pair of working hands is worth more than a thousand clasped in prayer."
Neil Reinhardt no shit? i did not know that. i always thought they were christian organizations.
May you live fucking long Matt! Humanity needs ones like you so badly these days. Thanks for doing what you are doing man
Which creator?
Sooo... My body? Nature? Oh, or maybe the *Universe.*
None of what you said is a requisite for a creator. I can create a clock, but that doesn't mean I'm the one maintaining it or demonstrating benevolence to it. In fact, I can make it a self-maintaining clock.
My mother made me, and I don't 'turn away' from her.
Provide a bloody argument. Otherwise your rhetoric is meaningless and wasted.
Not believing someone's claim does not equal being close minded. It's not our problem if people like you who claim to have that relationship can't even demonstrate that the "person" they are claiming to have a relationship with is actually there. Claiming you have to believe it first before you can "experience it" is textbook 101 con man bullshit. Especially when multiple people claim different (sometimes opposing) things about this "person".
You sound like that kind of cheesy inspirational quote stuffed into every Disney movie ever. You say you can demonstrate it, then bloody do it. I want to see hypotheses, experiments, graphs, fucking *science.* Anecdotes and rhetoric can only get you so far. To actually *progress,* you need to make math of your claims.
And for the record, I've already tried doing that once before in my life. All I learned was that the Universe doesn't care about me, or you, or anyone. You're not special because you think that you're 'enlightened.' You're no closer to the truth than anyone else, and I'm certain that no creator of universes would want a relationship with what crops up within those universes.
"The hands that help work better far than the lips that pray "
Thanks for the update Matt.
After following the show so long, it's good to know what's happening in Austin!
Hey Matt. You're one of my Heroes, just wanted to let you know that you've helped me, made me laugh, and inspired me to provoke thought in others, more so than arguing with them. You, Tracie, Jen and Jeff have all been great influences on the one life I get. Thank you. Just for your own personal notes of achievement(if it means anything) you are by definition a civil rights hero. All of you, but you more than most. I love you, man. Thank you for existing.
Matt.....Very relieved to hear that you and Beth are OK. I was concerned for your, and everyone at TAEs safety, and thought of you often during the storm. Hope all is well with our friends at Atheist Debates and TAE.
I went to a christian school and thought rainbows existed solely as "god reminders" until I graduated and got the internet.
Matt, I love your delivery and presentation in this video! Almost avuncular -- enjoyed it!
Matt, thank you for doing what you do. It takes balls to challenge the status quo as well as centuries of stubborn custom. Please continue what you do!
Cheers!!
Hello Matt, I watched a UA-cam weather forecast about the next big wind heading your way. Sensible forecast up to the point that the weather guy put up some stats about how significant storms whose names begin with the letter "I" were apparently more deadly....
Keep up the good work, regards from the Shetland islands (where hurricanes hardly ever happen)
Funny that Seventh Day Adventists (the church i was part of) kind of learned from this failed "end of the world" predictions and now just say that "no one knows the day nor the hour". They just keep things as vague as they come with the signs like wars or earthquakes, but forgetting that Jesus said that it would happen in the apostles lifetime, and the mental gymnastics they engange on to work around these verses is incredible.
Does Matt (or any other insightful speaker) have a video covering the argument of excessive suffering? I'm not familiar with it.
I was lucky to watch a full eclipse. It was awesome, and not a second was spent on thinking about a god.
It has been a pleasure to watch Matt start from public access TV and now rise to the point where he is sharing the stage with Dawkins and Harris. He is the BEST at what he does.
As it happens, I saw the 2017 eclipse from exactly where the paths of that eclipse and the 2024 eclipse intersect.
Except for the demon, I didn't notice anything unusual.
(Channeling Satan) Dammit! I told Bob not to go there. ... Sorry. He's new.
We were in St. Louis, Missouri. It was a great eclipse.
What's so unusual about demons?
Rembrandt972. "What's so unusual about demons?"
Well, this one was unusual because his MAGA hat was actually part of his head.
I was in the path of totality in Orangeburg, SC. We fortunately had clear skies. The eclipse was beautiful! I was on a college campus watching it with a group of scientists. My love for science and nature made that moment almost spiritual for me. I'm an atheist, but that was a natural event that I could witness and enjoy with other like-minded people. The joy and wonder I felt could be described as spiritual. Did anyone else feel this way?
Adam and Eve our first parents I was at one time a Christian. I lost my faith by trying to strengthen it with study. "study to show thyself approved". All it did for me is cause more unanswerable questions and fill me with more doubt. I finally got to the point where I realized I could no longer consider myself a believer without proof or evidence, I couldn't believe it. If you want to respond, we can have a dialogue as long as it stays civil.
Adam and Eve our first parents You missed the eclipse because you fell asleep in the middle of the day?
Cults obsessed with death tend to be the first to declare end times scenarios. While they worry about an unclear demise, the rest of us are trying to lead healthy, safe and considerate lives. Who should be considered more moral in this sense? The cosmic gambler or the earthbound realist?
A while back you said on Atheist Experience that you where writing a book.
Is there any plan for when it will come out?
Yup, I live in Charleston. The rain fucked the eclipse up. I can back You on that. I had cameras set up and everything. I was SO pissed.
You are a sign of hope for sanity ... I repect your patients in all of your efforts to help the confused and ignorant ...
One of the most religious states in the USA gets flooded and none of the famous antitheists who live there seem to have been the worst effected. What's the excuse this time Pat Robinson ?
*+Danny Snee*
The previous mayor of Houston was a lesbian and this one is African American?
I know he blames homosexuals all the time. Maybe the new mayor is a devil worshiper like all of those Haitians were.
Danny Snee
And the Astrological Column in the newspapers? You will go on a journey. Your lovelife will improve. Now is the time to play the lottery.
Been a while since I've watched your vids, looks like you've lost a little weight, good on ya, nice to see you again.
Adam and Eve our first parents ,, Be gone troll! I hereby banish you to the realm of forgotten religious zealots!
Omg you were in charleston sc and I missed it. DAMNIT. LOL. I hope it was a nice experience for you.
Communicate can't God clearly -Yoda
Communicate clearly, God can't.
Can't clearly god communicate, Yoda?
Brad Kuhn ding ding ding! we have a winner!
Mastered Yoda's grammatic, Brad Kuhn have. 😀
I don't think Yoda uses contractions.
The fact that xtians use the signs of the cosmos to predict the end times shows me that their religion is just another form of astrology that their book condemns
Matt will you address the moral hypocrisy of Joel and his megachurch? All over FB christians are coming to his defense, its mind boggling.
I was thrilled to see the 2017 eclipse in South Carolina with clear skies! I originally had planned to see it not too far from where you were. The morning of I took a gamble and changed our plans to drive to the middle of the state. The bet paid off! Sorry you got clouded out in Charleston.
FYI Matt - the place where the two paths of totality cross 7(and a half) years apart is an almost hidden little town in Illinois named Makanda (about 40 miles from where I witnessed the '17 eclipse).
Matt, you do great work .Have you come across ''the Debunking Handbook '' by J .Cook and
S. Lewandowsky ? It contains excellent ideas , 6 pages , downloadable .
Ill pray for you.... so by that u mean u will do nothing of value what so ever?
The value is self satisfaction received (through the grace of the Invisible Unicorn) by the person praying
I'll pat myself on the back for you.
As a lesbian I find it absolutely hilarious that I and those like me are allegedly so all powerful that we can control weather events with our fabulousness. Lol
Yay your a lesbian! I like ice tea!
No Yes *you're If you are going to insult me do so while literate.
If you're going to insult me, do so while literate.
01gilmour oooh, burn.
Sigh.... quite right, good catch. You were wrong to feel insulted. I wanted you to reflect on your'e obsession with your sexuality and your'e need to announce it. It's tiresome.
We don't know what causes lightning, therefore lightning must be caused by angry gods. It is a divine sign of our impending doom! Call our prayer line right now, and have your credit card ready!
UltimateBargains lol what a zinger.
I'm thinking the four people who have so far given this a 'thumbs down' didn't actually watch this through.
I think they are scared and angry.
Adam and Eve our first parents Found one
Kudo's sir. Your parting message is one we need to remember and use, OFTEN. It is through the fruits of Science, that we CAN help those suffering the vagaries of storms and weather. Pray yields nothing tangible for those in need, and only soothes the conscience of those who can't be bothered to make any other effort. They can congratulate themselves for "caring"....while offering nothing of substance to aid those who desperately need it....
"This eclipse is special because it falls on Thomas S. Monson's 90th birthday!" #UtahProblems
When he said "Hurricanes" I was like ooooh shit, he's going there!
Matt, I was told that the storm you recently had in Texas was a sign from god and the purpose was to take your show off the air. Unfortunately he told me this after the show was cancelled last Sunday :-))
The sky fairy may be all powerful but he cannot beat iron chariots or the internet so the Atheist Experience should be safe enough :-))
Adam, take a long walk off a short pier and don't forget to go hand in hand with Eve
The thing that's sad is that people can make some of the worst decisions of their lives by looking for a sign from "god". Not just joining an end-of-days cult, but, praying about which job to take, who to marry, or things like that can result in making illogical choices that bite you later and effect decades of your life. Normal, intelligent people who've been brainwashed by magical thinking can end up going down these paths. It's not like only stupid people can be conned.
RealYRM, I have definitely seen many people make extremely stupid decisions after praying to seek God's advice on the matter.
Thank-you for being the voice of reason.
Actually there is a point every 27.55 days where the Moon causes a total Solar Eclipse, it's simply that in more than 70% of these cases, the shadow (Umbra) *misses the Planet Earth COMPLETELY* and because the Moon's orbit is an inclined plane relative to the ecliptic of the Earth, by about 5 degrees, there can be two to five visible totalities every year.
oh wow, I was up by Lake Marion, really not that far from you, and we got a clear view for the eclipse.
thank you Matt
You're the greatest human being Matt.
Matt you need to be on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast!!! Millions will hear you!!!
Brilliant explanations
Matt, if there is a partial solar eclipse somewhere, then there is a total solar eclipse somewhere else nearby.
There is a total solar eclipse pretty much every year---just usually not in America or even the continent of America. Sometimes it's on the south hemisphere.
I think the number is somewhere around 1 total solar eclipse every 18 months. It is then you have a partial eclipse in nearby regions.
para-quote: A measure of an individual's worth, comes not of events occurring in your life, rather how you deal with those events. I find that relevant to this video
My wife is convinced that the rapture is going to happen on September 23 this year (2 days time). Guess we'll find out on September 24.
CoC1970 Lastname yeah it didnt end
Did it happen? :P
I have seen total solar eclipses. (I highly discourage looking directly at the sun). I have seen orange "Blood Moons". I have seen "shooting Stars". None of any of this impresses me much. I find the night sky quite boring. A good rain storm, with lightening, and thunder is far more interesting.
The dark purple clouds of the thunderstorm that rolled through at the last minute at the Convention was a cool consolation prize.
we need to help matt get more subs!!!
I saw the eclipse in Salem, Or. Perfectly clear weather. Having seen the eclipse, I could fully understand the terror someone would feel in seeing this happen if they didn't understand what was happening.
I'm sure that there have been cultures that performed human sacrifices when they say this happen, and if they did they would breathe easy seeing that it worked. I'm sure they would have made every effort to preserve this solution, ether writing it down, if they had writing, or making sure it was remembered by those responsible for the remembering the history of the tribe.
What can you make of seeing something bad starting to happen, doing SOMETHING, that could be ANYTHING, and then that bad thing gets better, how can we know that what we did had any effect at all?
Did the hurricane hit Austin?
I enjoyed the 90% eclipse in my backyard with my preacher neighbor, his wife, and his grandson. We could enjoy the power of an eclipse without pretending some god had a special message in an event that could be predicted far in advance. Of course, he is a mainline pastor from a denomination that accepts science.
I might believe an eclipse has a message if it happens tomorrow, but then again, maybe there is something missing from my understanding of science.
An eclipse that was going to happen anyway is not a sign. It's just an eclipse.
More flawless logic from Matt. Hurricanes happen every year around this time and they always equate it to god's judgement.
There must be a Creator of life forms because it is impossible for chemicals combine and form a life form like a cell. It is observable even today that a living cell could only come from another living cell.
Isn't there a total solar eclipse, visible somewhere on earth, about every 22 months?
I just found this guy and i fucking love this channel. God thinks your doing a great job, She told me herself. lol
How do they distinguish signs from God from signs from Satan? Or from signs from other deities. Or from coincidences. Or from natural things, if I may be so bold.
God and Satan are one.
They cross roughly at Carbondale, IL.
I'm across the pond and have already donated.
Matt your the man!
just saw the one in south america this pass week
What does this guy do for a living?
How is it possible to know, to verify, that anything, let alone something, is " a sign from God" if, as alleged by his apologists, he, or maybe she, is independent of space and time. How do we determine which of the millions and billions of cosmological events which happen every day are a sign, and which are not. If God in his magnificence orchestrates all cosmic events how do we distinguish between those that are, so to speak, regular non-sign events and those that are intended as signs by a deity who apparently expects us to interpret cosmic events as signs without further corroboration? If the moon splits in two as the result of a collision with an asteroid is that a sign from God or not? Perhaps it indicates that we'd better buck our ideas up on recalcitrant earth or we're in for a similar fate. But how do we know that unless God tells us that's what it means. And if he has to tell us what his intentions are in order for us to interpret the meanings of his signs why doesn't he stop beating around the bush and tell us to our face?
5:10 Wasn't Darwin's theory of natural selection also mocked in the public? Yet I don't see creationists using that as evidence of Darwin being right.
The August 21 passed over Yellowstone National Park and the new earthquake zone. And the eclipse hit the west coast at the same time that the sun set on Israel. It exited at the 33rd parallel. So there are lots of coincidences that Christians believe it is a sign. When Jesus died, the area went dark. They had another eclipse. And he said that the wicked and adulterous generation would only get the sign of Jonah which many believe that was the resurrection of Christ. But the Christians who believe that the eclipse was a sign say that there was an eclipse over Ninevah before Jonah came along. And the one in 2024 will cross over the earthquake zone so that is why many Christians believe that judgement is coming.
At about 5:00 of your video you claim that Sir Isaac Newton was mocked. Isaac Newton and Robert Hooke had butter arguments, but I don't know of Newton having been mocked. What is your evidence that "people" mocked Newton? I'm willing to learn.
he did not assert that newton was mocked. he said believers use newton mocked as justification to dismiss their mockery as being unwarranted.
Adam and Eve our first parents thanks for the invite and concern. i've read the bible and i see no reason to believe the supernatural parts. but thanks anyways.
I'm certain that one or more people who play the lottery will win when they play...was I right?
A note on eclipses. There is an astronomical imaginary point required to calculate an eclipse. This is called the moon's NODE. It is the point where the orbit of the moon crosses the imaginary plane created by the Sun and Earth. A SOLAR eclipse happens when the MOON, SUN and NODE all meet in their orbits. A lunar eclipse would have the SUN and NODE on one side and the MOON on the other. This imaginary point (NODE) rotates around the Earth a little over every 19 years. There are actually two NODES calculated, one for the moon crossing from "UP" to "DOWN" and one crossing from "DOWN" to "UP".
Nothing to do with Matt's presentation, just, I hope. an interesting tidbit.
"He was wrong before -- he won't be wrong again because he has died since that last projection
...." I have to admit I giggled at this
And....Once again, Humanism takes the high road. Send thoughts toward whomever, but actually do something as well. Matt isn't saying don't pray, he is saying, "Don't pretend that praying is doing something."
Who has watched Steve Cioccolanti & Discover Ministriess' fuckin' absurd video about the Great American Eclipse.
Yes just like how the eclipse glasses said American eclipse on them. I chuckled at the absurdity.
"Don't ring me during the eclispe - it's a sign of the end times."
I just checked my calendar and it IS 2017.
Also, eclipses fall on well established patterns. Ancients predicted eclipses with nothing more than observation and math (no accurate model of what was going on). If 7 years was important, it has happened many times before.
If I knew about the fbb, I would have donated to that cause. I dislike the red cross for reasons I won't get in to here but they were already on the ground and my father lives in Houston. If I had a dollar more to spare I would give it.
The black horse and rider who carries the scales (Libra/Autumn) will be arriving in a matter of days. The earth (Joseph) will soon be wearing a coat of many colors in the Northeastern states.
What is the difference between Pat Robertson claiming that an eclipse or hurricane is a message from "God" warning about the evils of non-heterosexual intimacy and a prehistoric shaman claiming the chicken bones told him the best time to hunt for woolly mammoths?
"ridiculous ideas are by definition deserving of ridicule"
I always thought that was a weird argument
Like, "ideas that are deserving of ridicule are by definition deserving of ridicule"
Well, yeah, no shit
Most people don't find it self-evident. Especially not when it's their own ideas.
Wouldn't the Aug 21st eclipse have been a perfect opportunity for "God" to prove he existed, by causing it somehow NOT to happen, and in doing so refute what scientists had accurately predicted?
I like the outreach at the end! Disagree with your Scientism and Humanist conclusions though.
Some people are indeed unapologetic shitpiles and wear it like a medal.
Matt, I must confess that the "Miracle of Fatima" in 1917 in an interesting one. I've looked at all the ways of debunking this but they just do not fit. If only a few hundred people were there this would be easier, but the fact that tens of thousands witnessed this makes it quite an interesting case. It would be churlish for me to try and suggest some kind of collective hallucination, especially on the basis of the amount of atheists who were in attendance and their subsequent testimonies and conversions. From an objective standpoint, it does seem that the sun did appear to break cosmic laws (at a localised level) at that specific time and specific place, as was prophesised. I cannot explain how their soaking wet clothes were dried in an instant. The Press were there and the event was reported in the newspapers. The solar phenomenon was also witnessed independently by people several kilometres away who had no knowledge of the of the event. Given the facts, it's certainly a head-scratcher. I've looked at all the counter-arguments, but they seem at best a stretch and at worst absurd.
@Skydaddy Myth-Busters Thanks, I had already looked into that, but I've seen other photos from the Press that show rain and the crowd with umbrellas. It still seems perplexing that the many atheists present who simply attended attested to the miracle and also that the solar phenomena was witnessed by others who were unaware of the event several kilometres away. I agree there are indeed some inconsistences in the gospels but having looked into them I must confess that they seem to be pretty small and mainly due to translations. I've done a lot of detailed research into the Fatima incident and it remains a complete anomaly it seems to me.
Thanks. The difficulty for me Skydaddy started when began when I started looking into the cosmological and teleological arguments. After doing that, it seemed much more likely for the existence of a God than not IMHO. The statistical probabilities (even within the multiverse principle) challenged by stance as a non-believer. From a biblical perspective, the whole Christian philosophy basically hinges on one event; the resurrection. Accounts from historians verifying the exponential rise of Christianity following the death of Jesus Christ is hard to dismiss, especially as the Jewish nation rejected the very notion of the resurrection outright. Such a radical and sudden "about-face" could only have arisen if there were hard evidence of the event as they had already seen countless false prophets come and go. I speak to you respectfully when I say there are valid reasons for believing in Christianity.
@Skydaddy Myth-Busters Skydaddy, no need at all for the conversation to turn hostile. I know where you're coming from and I'm sure you're probably a nice, intelligent person. My non-Christian friends consider me a pretty level headed chap, but it's absolutely fine if you don't want to respect my views - I will certainly continue to respect yours. It's completely up to you what you believe but there's nothing wrong with us debating. Please try to understand that scientific evidence isn’t the ONLY type of evidence. Many truths exist that we cannot prove through physical evidence but are a fact. Consciousness being one. We don’t have physical evidence that life is meaningful or that murder is wrong. These statements are true, but not because we have found physical evidence to support them. The same is true for the love you have for your partner, mother, father, brother, sister, friend....you can't actually prove your love for them at all. Even if you exhibit the usual behaviours that come with loving someone, how can a cynical person be sure there isn't some strange ulterior motive? Just because they can't "see" your love (or indeed taste, smell, hear or touch it) doesn't mean your love doesn't exist. You can't find a plastic cup with a metal detector!
Having said all that, I do think that are some supernatural events that demand attention. As I've already said, nobody has ever managed to provide a rational explanation for the eye witness testimonies of the many atheists who attended the Miracle of Fatima and attested to the awesome power of miracle. Not to mention those who knew nothing of the event and were several km away, yet also independently witnessed it. Why dismiss out of hand these two groups of people given that they had absolutely nothing to gain from it?
I'm not sure why you consider it a trap, but there is and has always been One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. This was the church founded by Jesus Christ Himself 2,000 years ago. Have a good evening.
@Skydaddy Myth-Busters Not at all Skydaddy, I'm enjoying my conversation with you. No, push back is good....it's just that the tone of your replies seems a little condescending and contemptuous, but that's fine (I'm sure you haven't taken a dislike to me personally...actually, maybe it's best if I don't ask that question LOL!
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It's a shame that you seem unwilling / unable to debate with me in a rational manner and respond to the specific points I've already raised such as the sudden and exponential rise of Christianity in a Jewish nation that outright rejected the concept of the resurrection. I was also hoping for a counter-argument for the hundreds of atheist testimonies after Fatima, also the verification of the event from the independent witnesses who objectively reported the phenomena several km away and didn't know never mind care about the event. I must confess I've become a little bored with the usual monologue of untenable arguments and the long held atheistic fallacies from various people about the Catholic faith you see.
Perhaps you're were rushing, but if you care to re-read my last post you'll see that I didn't actually say that consciousness proves God. However, I DID give this as just one of example of something that certainly exists in the absence of any empirical evidence. Ask the best neurologist in the world and they'll be the first to concede this. Let's turn the tables for a second. What if someone were to say to you that consciousness is nothing more than an absurd, unverifiable, magical and delusional figment of your imagination? You get my point.
Friend, you seem to know very little about Canon Law. Like I said, there is one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. The different rites in the Catholic church simply embrace different traditions, the important thing is that these rites all remain in full communion with the Holy See. Yes, they come from distinct cultural backgrounds and from all corners of the earth, yet each of these twenty-four Churches all profess the same Catholic faith. Within these traditions, is the same unbroken Tradition (big “T”) from apostolic times. So....there we are.
If you honestly feel that the Gospels are nothing more than a bunch of fairy tales I would recommend you read "Can We Really Trust the Bible?" by Craig Blomberg. Funnily enough, he's one of my Protestant brothers. You appear to like all things rational, so I've suggested this book due to his pragmatic approach in drawing together the huge number of supporting manuscripts (over 15000 by the way) along with the additional evidence cited from non-religious historians and scholars.
I noticed you seem to associate faith with "fear". That makes me pretty sad and is not my experience at all. Maybe I should get on to this after your next response. I hope you are doing fine today.
@Skydaddy Myth-Busters It's disappointing you are consistently ignoring the information in my posts Skydaddy. I'm seriously starting to lose faith in your objective rationality! As I've already said, there is as a huge amount of historical evidence for the resurrection. Please don't take my word for it though, why not research it yourself. The journalist Lee Strobel did exactly this. A vehement atheist, Strobel was absolutely determined to disprove the resurrection of Jesus Christ and he set out to do just that. However, his final analysis of all the evidence rocked his world to the core. Check out his book "The Case for Christ" (or if you prefer, watch the movie of the same name). As I've said before, the whole theology of Christianity rests on the resurrection. If anyone can disprove the resurrection, rest assured I'll be the very first to give up my faith. But all the evidence is totally to the contrary.
Pardon me, but you seem very contemptuous towards people of faith, yet you've presented to me absolutely no arguments to show that Atheism is true. On the other hand, I've given you several arguments (including scientifically verifiable ones) in support of Christian Theism. I was hoping that you would actually engage in debating my points rather than going off on different monologues.
You have some pretty warped perceptions of the Christian faith. It had a very distinct start 2000 years ago thanks to Jesus Christ alone. It is not based on any other imaginings, thoughts, philosophy as you try to claim. You ridicule the Holy Trinity, even though this comes right from the teaching of Our Lord Jesus Christ. You say that if people choose to disobey God, He will send them to Hell. That's plain wrong - we chose Hell for ourselves. There's no limit to God's unfathomable mercy, apart from what we limit ourselves. If someone totally rejects God and wants nothing to do with Him in this life, what makes you think their sentiments would change in the next life? Hell is the eternal separation from God and, as such, is exactly what such souls desire. We ultimately get what we want....isn't that fair?? Of course, things are not always black and white, so there's the matter of Purgatory.
Incorrect. Consciousness is not observable. Please Google this. One cannot look inside someone’s head and see their feelings and experiences. We know that consciousness exists not from observation and experiment but by being conscious. The only way we can find out about the consciousness of others is by asking them, we cannot directly perceive their experience, we can only ask what they're feeling. This is just one example of something that exists that you cannot see, touch, taste, hear or smell. I'd like to see you trying to prove consciousness in your so called 'court of law'. Like I said, you cannot find a plastic cup with a metal detector.
I'm not sure why you think I would hate any particular part of science. Science is wonderful and is a brilliant resource that God has given us. You try to pit science against religion, but I say the two are not at all incompatible with one another. In fact, it's directly thanks to verifiable scientific studies that the cosmological and teleological arguments for God exist. Did you know it was a Catholic priest, Georges Lemaître, who discovered the Big Bang? Furthermore, science reveals that the initial conditions of the universe were fine tuned for the existence of intelligent life with a degree of precision and delicacy that simply defies human comprehension. For example, if the atomic weak force were altered by 1 part out of 10 to the 100th power, it would not have permitted a life-giving universe. Not to give any mention of the other variables. Or perhaps you have an aversion to quantifiable statistics too?
By the way, I'm still awaiting your thoughts about the testimonies from the many atheists who were in attendance at Fatima and also of those who independently witnessed the miracle several km away.
Sorry, but God alone is ultimate truth. In Christianity, this is expressed through the person of Jesus Christ, God incarnate, who is the way, the truth and the life. Yes, crimes are committed by Christians as is the same with atheists. We are ALL broken and in need of Christ's redemption.
If you have any doubt of God's love for you, look no further than the Cross. You may not believe in God, but He still believes in you.
Anyone else hate when someone uses "back to back" for more than two sequential things instead of just using "consecutively"?
No? Just me. :(
Matthew 22:36-40 King James Version (KJV)
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
There was a man in my Christian office, that thought the end times were going to start in 2012. He did the whole end times prepper thing, and ended up spending a lot of money on stuff he'll never use. This same man, who was an elder in his church, believed that black people were from a separate less intelligent race and not part of God's chosen people! I don't think he had ever met a black person. Needless to say, I was shocked to my core. There are all kinds of religious nuts out there, and some of them have a big platform to spread their hate. We have to shut them down.
Grandma Mo Says
No, we don't. Regardless of how wrong he is, he has a right to speak as long as he's a peaceful thinker. If he starts to become violent, then sure, take away his platform. Until then, he has a constitutional right to freely speak his mind. It's censorship to wrongly shit people up no matter how wrong or stupid they are. Are you against ANTIFA? If so, you should understand why free speech needs to be free. If not, then I can't change your opinion because you've already made up your mind, like a lot of mindless Christians and Muslims.
Jaaz Vale
I take it you're pro censorship?
No you got to get on your own platform and give a more convincing speech like Dillahunty here.
I'm shocked too.. there are Christian offices?!
Adam and Eve our first parents
Prove to me that the Christian God is real and exists.
Seeing a rainbow from an airplane is even more impressive, because if you're high enough you get a full circle.
Hence nobody will ever get the gold ,but perhaps learns to look at things from different angles.
@@ericscaillet2232 There is no gold.
@@erictaylor5462 yes of course ,just using fables and superstition for a bit of humour....
Harvey was clearly sent by god to punish people because of Trump pardoning Arpaio. I know this is true because god told me so. Case closed. (sarcasm)
Keep stroking your rod (god) and tell us more.
Obviously the hurricane was the direct result of Rick Perry praying for rain for Texas. Sure, that was 5 years ago but God answers prayers in his own time, right Christians?
+Adam and Eve our first parents
So you have no problem that Rick Perry prayed for rain and God answered with a flood that killed dozens of innocent people, caused billions of dollars in damage, and left thousands homeless? What kind of God do you worship?
He's right about one thing; there ARE lots of false prophets...
These kind of events (eclipses) are on a long list of things that were the impetus for gods by primitive people. If it could not be explained (at the time, and it couldn't) then the gods did it, was the only alternative.Strange how people still use this "god" thingy to bolster their ignorance, or flat out denial of all evidence to the contrary presented to them by Science. I can just imagine what they conjured up the first time they saw a platypus, or a two-headed turtle, or fish/birds falling from the sky (due to a tornado or waterspout ) ........ ~8^)
I saw a sign...and it opened up my eyes i saw a sign.
-Ace of Base 😂
I have a personal relationship with Jesus. In fact, he's taking me out next Saturday night... dinner and a movie. Good times, good times.
The horse and rider (Sagittarius) is horsie and rider in Revelation. White horsie = spring equinox (spring), Red horse = summer solstice, (summer) black horsie = fall equinox (fall), and pale horsie = winter solstice (winter). Taurus, Gemini, and Cancer = Age of gold (Saturn).... Leo, Virgo, Libra = Age of Silver (Jupiter),....Scorpio, Sagittarius, and Capricorn = Age of Copper/Brass/Bronze (Venus).....Aquarius, Pisces, and Aries = Age of Iron (Mars). The black horsie will arrive this month (September) are you ready???????????
I living in South Africa, 500km from an ocean. No hurricanes, no tsunamis, no earthquake, only floods my part of the country are flash floods which are child's play compared to others around the world.
How is God supposed to give us signs?
Noah is Saturn, and "god" Uranus was made into a meanie. Ham is Jupiter, Shem/Sem is Pluto, and Japheth is Dagon-Neptune. Saturn = time and Uranus is before time existed. Jesus is made to say, "before Abraham (Saturn-time) was born" I Am. We can blame Jesus for the flood.
He hands them out when someone pickets.
you know, supernovas are boring n natural, burning bushes that aren't burning is where its at, translating to 3 spared cents on the christmas tree lighting.
I will never make fun of another persons belief. I will, however, make fun of my friends.
"Go ahead and laugh! They laughed at Lenny Bruce!"
"Yeah, but he was funny."
I don't make dates by proxy, but he's welcome to ask me himself