In theory, it’s a good way to get some extra value from semi-bluffs without isolating against only better hands. Otherwise IP gets to bluff very cheaply with a bunch of Qx and Jx hands Works even better in practice if opponent is raising a bunch of Kx trying to get a cheaper showdown
@@shaiguelman3468 idk sometimes it seems that another computer opened up with GTO wizard would be pretty useful…wonder why NOBODY would do such a thing….🤔😏
That's crazy just yesterday I was looking for any coverage of DavyJones on this channel and couldn't find any! Glad this exceptional player finally got featured.
Great video. In my humble opinion, the folds these top players find are more impressive than the bluffs. Even though the bluffs they find are still amazing. Thanks for uploading this. All the best!
That 3bb bet by Lonis on the river is just a sick little play. Crazy how these guys can be “specialist” in one thing but find some pretty sick spots to showcase their knowledge of other disciplines.
holy shit, linus is disgustingly good at the game of poker in every sense of the word. playing against him would be terrifying lol. great video as always 2CC! Still hope that you release some more merch soon cause I would buy insanely fast
I used to crush in like 2008-2010 at 6 Max deep games. When Linus was comming up he was insane to play against. He was the only player at 250-500nl (250bb tables) that absoloutely destroyed my ass. Needless to say he kept going up quick from there.
Immediate thumb up when i see the new vidz uploaded and....as usual great content ! I've watched the entire FT before you analyse those players performance and yes, this is even more impressive when you show the gto solutions according so well to what they did ! And the heads-up in the end is damn crazy : Davyjones crushed is opponent so indecently
@@johndawgsmoke1245 Np. Exactly because of being a chop board is what makes it crazy. It usually takes really big sizes (and a range to back it up) to bluff people off of chops, for many reasons. Fold vs 50% size escapes my mind, but then again I don't play mtts.
It's a huge video again. I really enjoyed watching it. I miss you every day, but I think it will take a really long time to make a video like this. Thank you always.
Halfway through and I feel like the theme is ICM? Mainly how important your tournament life is especially when there's shorter stacks. The risk premium is so intense playing against the chip leader so you need to be extremely selective when going to war
Can’t believe people need solvers to help make decisions. By just playing the game and getting experience should be enough to help you make optimal decisions.
Definitely... Keep in mind that this is only a hand picked sample. You'll find enough spots (a lot of them covered on this channel) that are not solver approved
I think the flop raise by Davyjones with 6d6x on A85ddx flop really needed to be analyzed at least a little bit, especially considering he's up against Mikita who's UTG. Is that bluff meant to exploit fish2013's generally tight style of play?
no it is standart type of bluff hands, on A high boards with 2 low cards you wanna bluff with underpair (which unblock folding range) or bottom pairs (which block 2p, sets)
@@mattsmith9968 Would still be nice to see the charts for spots like UTG v LP since this type of move is defo underutilized at lower stakes and ace-high flops are going to be easier to find exploits to use at low stakes than most other textures.
Hi, might be a silly question but how are you able to see every hand even when players are not going to showdown? Is the site who runs the MTT releasing the whole game after the game has finished?
I haven't looked at the exact reason, but it has to be because some JcX hands in Leq's would be betting more often when they're straights (or getting to the river more often - for example one could imagine JcTc being cbet more often OTF as it has a bdfd). And/Or because JhX hands are used more often as bluffs in theory. That might not always hold true in practice for everyone however.
@@2CardConfidence that makes sense.. I am very curious about how to think about range construction properly here. I asked some questions on your discord.
common approach from theese top players as you mentioned mid video, respecting icm, winning less chips but also loosing less. so with your sum up, respecting the mtt survival.
What am I missing about the J9hearts fold from Davy? He plays the board and is calling for a chop? The solver output must be wrong for that hand, has way too many calls imo. It’s literally a call to chop with giant risk premiums… I don’t get it
11:44 i mean 2x overbet quite “ez” fold legenden has to overbluff a ton i dont think allin is good there he blocks all the board what are you getting value from
You just show hands when they folded good. Watched the whole FT replay and they kind of play antiGTO NIT strategy.. they probably have their own reasons to be so tight ...
Using such a software would create patterns and trends in their play that are actually quite detectable by game integrity departments. Furthermore, the time pressure in online tournaments makes the actual practicality of rta quite low.
@@bradensmith22 You mean by playing, scarily close to GTO, which they all seem to do….? And couldn’t you just have the solver run against another ‘GTO’ player’s range and then modify the result on the fly based on how close your opponent plays to it?
@bkb04g If you took the time to analyze all of the hands played by these players, you would find that they don't actually play scarily close to gto. In some spots of course they do, but those are just the spots that they have studied very well. If they are all playing an rta assisted strategy, and they are all following gto, then they would all be playing a close to perfect Nash equilibrium and no one's decisions would ever deviate from perfect and they would all be playing EXACTLY the same way. Obviously pokerstars would notice this. Any deviation from this strategy in order to conceal their actions would cause them to lose massively to the others. So, we have 3 possibilities: they are all cheating, none are cheating and some are cheating. For the reasons listed above, it would be very obvious to the site operator if all or if some are cheating. That only leaves us one one option: none are cheating.
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Insanely high level. Must be fun finding these Lines in real time as intuitive. That’s so high level of game sense
True! 20 years ago much of their plays would be considered fishy. Solvers legitimized some seemingly very crazy lines.
The click back with KQ is a crazy find in real time but makes complete sense
Why does it make sense?
In theory, it’s a good way to get some extra value from semi-bluffs without isolating against only better hands. Otherwise IP gets to bluff very cheaply with a bunch of Qx and Jx hands
Works even better in practice if opponent is raising a bunch of Kx trying to get a cheaper showdown
@@shaiguelman3468 idk sometimes it seems that another computer opened up with GTO wizard would be pretty useful…wonder why NOBODY would do such a thing….🤔😏
@@shaiguelman3468 what bluffs you have in that line ?
great storytelling. final hand was crazy
That's crazy just yesterday I was looking for any coverage of DavyJones on this channel and couldn't find any! Glad this exceptional player finally got featured.
Haha, just think of it and it'll get delivered!
Davyjones is maníac, loose more.
absolutely ludicrous how the first 4 hands played out. Insane discipline and knowledge fucking hell
This has honestly given me a new appreciation for the highest level of poker. Great video!
thanks for the great coverage of this amazing tournament!
My pleasure, happy you liked it!
Watching these decision makings is like admiring beautiful art.
Great video. In my humble opinion, the folds these top players find are more impressive than the bluffs. Even though the bluffs they find are still amazing. Thanks for uploading this. All the best!
Totally agree!
That 3bb bet by Lonis on the river is just a sick little play. Crazy how these guys can be “specialist” in one thing but find some pretty sick spots to showcase their knowledge of other disciplines.
10% is mad 😭don't show that to the pros from 2010
Jesse Lonis 😭
This reminds me of streamed games at Hustler Casino, except the opposite
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holy shit, linus is disgustingly good at the game of poker in every sense of the word. playing against him would be terrifying lol. great video as always 2CC! Still hope that you release some more merch soon cause I would buy insanely fast
Thanks! Can't promise anything, but good chance there's gonna be some merch this year
after careful consideration my strategy against linus would be to get aces when he has kings
I used to crush in like 2008-2010 at 6 Max deep games. When Linus was comming up he was insane to play against. He was the only player at 250-500nl (250bb tables) that absoloutely destroyed my ass. Needless to say he kept going up quick from there.
Hes gonna fold those kk😂@@pugsnhogz
@@iamwill5471 fml u rite
It's like Davy can see their cards
I don’t get why it’s high level. He’s calling for a chop. The board is a straight so he plays the board. Idk
Davyjones play with RTA.
@@boloisretratado4408 no he doesn't
goosebumps with that ending! insanely well put together video
Loved the video, please make more FT analysis would watch every one
Thanks! Won't be the last one!
Love this story telling. Very good channel
Much appreciated, thanks!
11:44 My brain finished that sentence as “Davy dodging bullets like Hellmuth” 😅
Immediate thumb up when i see the new vidz uploaded and....as usual great content ! I've watched the entire FT before you analyse those players performance and yes, this is even more impressive when you show the gto solutions according so well to what they did ! And the heads-up in the end is damn crazy : Davyjones crushed is opponent so indecently
That J9 fold from Davy is hurting my brain
The board is a chop. How is it so crazy? I don’t get it.
@@johndawgsmoke1245 Np. Exactly because of being a chop board is what makes it crazy. It usually takes really big sizes (and a range to back it up) to bluff people off of chops, for many reasons. Fold vs 50% size escapes my mind, but then again I don't play mtts.
It's a huge video again. I really enjoyed watching it. I miss you every day, but I think it will take a really long time to make a video like this. Thank you always.
It does, so I'm happy you enjoyed it so much!
Incrível como Linus e Jones podem ser tão bons!
Really like this style of content
i think most tournament regs would consider linus a top tourney player too
That was brilliant content
Nice videos Man, keep going 🚀
Great video, thank you👀👍🏼
Great video man. I asked about a month ago for this very type of video. MORE PLEASE SIR CANNI HAVE SOME MORE 🙏
Haha, won't be the last!
U made me wanna crush some MTT’s. As a regfish from micro I should be good enough 😋
Tyyy 2CC ❤
Haha let's go!
Bro I loaded up on UA-cam praying you made a new video 😂 20 minutes ago you upload this heat LFG
Haha - happy to deliver 🫡
Halfway through and I feel like the theme is ICM? Mainly how important your tournament life is especially when there's shorter stacks. The risk premium is so intense playing against the chip leader so you need to be extremely selective when going to war
Légende, sick video!
Best UA-cam channel ever !
Appreciate it a lot!
Thank you. Such a fantastic video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Legendary video
Great video
Amazing Video as always 🔥🔥
Amazing video bro, thanks for the content 😊
Thanks for watching! :)
very valuable videos bro
Thanks, glad they're helpful!
Great video 💯 as always mate.
Thank you my friend!
What a great game 👑
Great job, I love these videos. Please make more. Keep it up.
Damn Davy slow down, that man has a family!
🤣
Amazing video man
Glad you enjoyed it!
Can’t believe people need solvers to help make decisions. By just playing the game and getting experience should be enough to help you make optimal decisions.
i cant believe how close they are to the solver … how is that even possible? are there any hands that they dont nail?
At least in cashgames they sometimes blow it off completely 😅 and these are premium examples, they're not spot on every hand I guess
Definitely... Keep in mind that this is only a hand picked sample. You'll find enough spots (a lot of them covered on this channel) that are not solver approved
Top quali content
I think the flop raise by Davyjones with 6d6x on A85ddx flop really needed to be analyzed at least a little bit, especially considering he's up against Mikita who's UTG. Is that bluff meant to exploit fish2013's generally tight style of play?
no it is standart type of bluff hands, on A high boards with 2 low cards you wanna bluff with underpair (which unblock folding range) or bottom pairs (which block 2p, sets)
@@mattsmith9968 Would still be nice to see the charts for spots like UTG v LP since this type of move is defo underutilized at lower stakes and ace-high flops are going to be easier to find exploits to use at low stakes than most other textures.
Didn't solve that hand, but I would assume what matt said is pretty spot on
mikita is tight now? i’ve been away too long…
7:00 i would full caveman 2x pot mash/ob shove EYE HAZ KNUT BROKKA. Str8 folding is super user quantum computer tier
Leqenden was punting a lot on that FT, didn't work so well against Linus and Davy 😁
El video brutal
great video
What solver do you use?
Great video btw!
Thank you! In this video it's piosolver
so does the solver bet fold the KQs if it chooses not to jam it on the river??
Noo, any Q is always calling a jam
Hi, might be a silly question but how are you able to see every hand even when players are not going to showdown? Is the site who runs the MTT releasing the whole game after the game has finished?
Yes exactly, Pokerstars releases replays with all hole cards for these big MTTs. But only for the final table
superuser or genius? very impressiv!
What site is this? Thank you
Pokerstars
Hi, just curious, is that theme something available somewhere to download for pokerstars?
Please contact the yt channel "bcp poker replays" (@bcpoff) for that!
I think it's just the final table theme
Very good
7:03 Why is Jc9c a fold but hearts and spades a call in theory? Thanks in advance
I haven't looked at the exact reason, but it has to be because some JcX hands in Leq's would be betting more often when they're straights (or getting to the river more often - for example one could imagine JcTc being cbet more often OTF as it has a bdfd). And/Or because JhX hands are used more often as bluffs in theory.
That might not always hold true in practice for everyone however.
Why was there a seat change?!
Thanks... I quit NLHE MTT today
Hahaha
@@2CardConfidence your content is great, i'll keep watching, nevertheless
Why there isn’t any overbets in MTTs like we see in cash games? Only because of shallower stacks and tourney life? Are there any other reasons?
Yes short stack specifically are the most compelling reason. You definitely see some overbets when stacks are deeper
@@2CardConfidence Thank you.
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when linus had AA vs QQ BvB, why did he 4bet so small? pot odds for IP for 20% -- have never seen that before...
Stacks are quite short and aces are not that concerned with protection
@@2CardConfidence that makes sense.. I am very curious about how to think about range construction properly here. I asked some questions on your discord.
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Linus wow
common approach from theese top players as you mentioned mid video, respecting icm, winning less chips but also loosing less.
so with your sum up, respecting the mtt survival.
ESPAÑA MANDAAA🎉
What am I missing about the J9hearts fold from Davy? He plays the board and is calling for a chop? The solver output must be wrong for that hand, has way too many calls imo. It’s literally a call to chop with giant risk premiums… I don’t get it
How do you even find folds vs 50% size on a chop board?? "has too many calls" you say? I don't get how there's even folds in there. I'm lost
Linus minclick on the turn is so sexy
When i face those min bets like linus did with that 3bb bet i get annoyed af, this happens to anyone else?
25k to win 450k so 18x? Sounds more like a sitngo to me then a tournament
can Leqenden run hotter than this?
are you crazysheep poker?
No, but I see why you could think that haha
really crazy how the cash game crushers actually are the ones to play better gto than the mtt pros
why is that crazy ? mtts are full of fish high stakes cash isnt you actually have to be good
Actually it's make all the sense in the world.
Amateurs can win tournaments... But there's no way a recreational make something at NL50 and up
QQ not a 3bet vs GTO... Im done with NLHE MTT right now!
Mikita (which is an amazing guy as well) is Belarusian, not Ukrainian
I know, I didn't make the graphic
7 place paid. Kind of like a sit and go but deep stacked isn't it?
Yes these super high rollers usually don't get too many entrants
11:44 i mean 2x overbet quite “ez” fold legenden has to overbluff a ton i dont think allin is good there he blocks all the board what are you getting value from
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first
You just show hands when they folded good. Watched the whole FT replay and they kind of play antiGTO NIT strategy.. they probably have their own reasons to be so tight ...
What’s preventing these players from having a GTO program running on a second computer, e.g. RTA?
Using such a software would create patterns and trends in their play that are actually quite detectable by game integrity departments. Furthermore, the time pressure in online tournaments makes the actual practicality of rta quite low.
@@bradensmith22 You mean by playing, scarily close to GTO, which they all seem to do….? And couldn’t you just have the solver run against another ‘GTO’ player’s range and then modify the result on the fly based on how close your opponent plays to it?
@bkb04g If you took the time to analyze all of the hands played by these players, you would find that they don't actually play scarily close to gto. In some spots of course they do, but those are just the spots that they have studied very well. If they are all playing an rta assisted strategy, and they are all following gto, then they would all be playing a close to perfect Nash equilibrium and no one's decisions would ever deviate from perfect and they would all be playing EXACTLY the same way. Obviously pokerstars would notice this. Any deviation from this strategy in order to conceal their actions would cause them to lose massively to the others. So, we have 3 possibilities: they are all cheating, none are cheating and some are cheating. For the reasons listed above, it would be very obvious to the site operator if all or if some are cheating. That only leaves us one one option: none are cheating.
This crap ruined poker like StockFish ruined Chess.
Nikita is NOT Ukrainian....
I know, I didn't make the graphic
you are a bit too close to the camera mate
Literally 0,5% of the video. Not that close btw
Bring OTB_RedBaron in this table and then its pure firework 😅
Dude,you have to show more of this cashgame/mtt play 🙂
He’s retired you could name 20 other modern cash game pros who’d be at his level if not more since they actually still play
@@archie2281 different era,different game and from what i see from your comment different idea 💁🏻♂️