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  • As Rishi Sunak calls a General Election for 4th July, James O'Brien asks his callers: Who is to blame, over the last 14 years, that has led to the current state of Britain?
    1:18 - Learning from the lessons of the last 14 years, caller Ben advises James O'Brien's listeners ahead of the election: 'Please do your homework, and don't get taken in by the snazzy suit even if it’s a bit damp.'
    2:00 - Caller Richard believes that ‘Nick Clegg’ is responsible for the downfall of Britain.
    4:55 - Caller Dawn says the blame lies with ‘Rupert Murdoch hands down’.
    6:45 - ‘George Osbourne was the architect of Britain's downfall', caller Hetty tells James O'Brien.
    8:42 - Caller Connor tells James O'Brien that Gordon Brown is the 'accidental contender' for who has contributed to the current state of the country.
    12:01 - Caller Matt blames 'Nigel Farage and the Brexit fallout'.
    Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer have launched their election campaigns ahead of July 4th, with Sunak telling Britain to ‘choose its future’, and Starmer saying ‘it’s time for change’.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 643

  • @LongDarkTeatimeOfTheSoul
    @LongDarkTeatimeOfTheSoul 4 місяці тому +297

    The biggest contributor to the downfall of Britain, Thatcher. If she’d not sold off oil&gas we’d have £1trillion pension fund like Norway, we’d have cheaper electric & gas, water would be clean…..

    • @jungleboy1
      @jungleboy1 4 місяці тому +40

      everybody would have a home without thatcher right now. She gave everyone a home in the 80s but forgot to replace them.

    • @garagenigel
      @garagenigel 4 місяці тому +22

      ​@@jungleboy1 I don't think she forgot though!

    • @jungleboy1
      @jungleboy1 4 місяці тому +9

      @@garagenigel planned all along then!

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 4 місяці тому +22

      Norways wealth fund now generates a greater income than its dwindling oil and gas.

    • @davidgreen6490
      @davidgreen6490 4 місяці тому +6

      @@johnrussell3961 Yes, but they will face the same problem we have when they have used 70% of the oil. Their oil field is much bigger than ours..

  • @ZachBobBob
    @ZachBobBob 4 місяці тому +167

    Murdoch. That man has almost singlehandedly wrecked the entire planet. He's Emperor Palpatine in real life

    • @NigelQuintyne
      @NigelQuintyne 4 місяці тому +22

      Murdoch is the devil

    • @markwalker2627
      @markwalker2627 4 місяці тому +9

      The truth right here.

    • @chrishughes3405
      @chrishughes3405 4 місяці тому +9

      On the world stage, either murdoch or putin for palpatine incarnate.

    • @timthegallant
      @timthegallant 4 місяці тому +15

      Murdoch has had such an insidious influence on our country.hes not even from our country yet he panders to the intolerant,judgemental and those that lack compassion for those that deserve our sympathy.i know evil is a very strong word but i think there is an argument for it.

    • @minui8758
      @minui8758 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes! Absolutely! 100%! The worst thing to happen to Britain and America! All of our institutions, monarchy, church, judiciary and constabulary, our parliament, our international relations with Europe and the commmonwealth, our political parties, the trade unions, all the dozens and dozens of families his hacks have persecuted… all of them, the whole fabric of society, have been irreparably damaged by the sensationalist prurient culture he brought in! Awful unspeakable man!

  • @JuneStephenson-c2d
    @JuneStephenson-c2d 4 місяці тому +63

    Wealthy businessmen running this country feeding their wealthy mates to build their businesses whilst making the poor poorer.

    • @LA-fr7fx
      @LA-fr7fx 3 місяці тому

      Spot on! An entitled elite. Labour are no better, look at champagne socialist Tony Blair!

    • @robwakelin5559
      @robwakelin5559 3 місяці тому +1

      That, right there.

    • @2fold.80
      @2fold.80 3 місяці тому

      Isn't that what humans want though? Look at any age, the majority of people have always been ruled by the toxic few. Its the natural order of primates.

  • @JamesLochridge-u1h
    @JamesLochridge-u1h 4 місяці тому +66

    I'm an OAP and as a consequence of Brexit we are still suffering the worst pension in Europe.

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 4 місяці тому +3

      Who said it would be better? Farage?

    • @manvbees
      @manvbees 4 місяці тому +3

      Haha not even close to the worst actually.

    • @darlik1
      @darlik1 4 місяці тому +4

      I hear Mexico has a higher pension.

    • @lervish1966
      @lervish1966 4 місяці тому

      Liar

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому

      @user Doubt you are...and the pensions always been poor in comparison to the rest of Europe. So none out of two!

  • @williamoram6969
    @williamoram6969 4 місяці тому +68

    All of this can be traced back to Thatcher who was unfortunately successful in changing both the political & the economic philosophy. Before Thatcher we had council houses, now we have nothing , which apparently is not a problem. That’s just one example out of thousands.

    • @Mitjitsu
      @Mitjitsu 4 місяці тому +1

      Even if that's true you should be blaming who created the conditions which allowed her to come to power.

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Mitjitsu. That was OPEC!

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому +1

      @william You actually took time out to post that?😂

    • @blazzz13
      @blazzz13 4 місяці тому +4

      @@chatham43 can you try to actually string together a coherent counter argument 🥴

    • @thejdemon
      @thejdemon 3 місяці тому

      So no leader since thatcher is responsible for the lack of building new council houses?
      Strange how not a single leader after thatcher put a foot wrong, every single blunder is her fault and hers alone, there hasn't been 30+ years since she left leadership to correct anything. 🤔

  • @Thorkil9
    @Thorkil9 4 місяці тому +137

    Thatcher - she laid the groundwork

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 4 місяці тому

      Blair laid the ground work. He destroyed this country beyond repair. Look at London.

    • @nuxkamina
      @nuxkamina 4 місяці тому

      Lol, so 34 years of no leadership since?

    • @jannenreuben7398
      @jannenreuben7398 3 місяці тому

      No, she just inherited a backwards obsolete economy. She tried - and failed - to modernise it.

  • @GeoffV-k1h
    @GeoffV-k1h 4 місяці тому +100

    There are many things wrong with this country but every single one of them has been made worse by the Troy Party and the Brexit dead end the country chose to go down.

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 4 місяці тому +4

      Most normal people would say Blair

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 4 місяці тому +12

      @@stretfordender11. Your most….is now a dwindling minority. .

    • @GeoffV-k1h
      @GeoffV-k1h 4 місяці тому +11

      @@stretfordender11 Blair had 40 consecutive quarters if economic growth.

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 4 місяці тому +5

      @@GeoffV-k1h Blair also ruined the country beyond repair. What he did was irreversible for any future PM. His policies are directly related to the housing crisis, NHS crisis and the issues of the on going mobs in London we currently seeing every weekend

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 4 місяці тому

      @@johnrussell3961 all on going issues relate to Blair and all routes lead back to them. NHS and housing crisis is caused by the population increase no matter what your little sensitive head thinks.

  • @Shellewell
    @Shellewell 4 місяці тому +82

    Murdoch, surely? His influence may have waned, but it set the course.

    • @jeffsimon9594
      @jeffsimon9594 4 місяці тому +1

      🥱

    • @tamhunter5025
      @tamhunter5025 4 місяці тому +2

      The blighty brigade are to blame them and them alone

    • @1porter
      @1porter 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@jeffsimon9594wakey wakey

    • @amcc5887
      @amcc5887 4 місяці тому +6

      Absolutely sure didn't he finance brexit, of course he did,,,torie loving Australian, the mind boggles,,,

    • @RoofLight00
      @RoofLight00 4 місяці тому +4

      Murdoch and thatcher.

  • @56postoffice
    @56postoffice 4 місяці тому +46

    Has anyone mentioned George Osborne? He seems to have been forgotten, bearing in mind he was Chancellor during David Cameron's premiership. Evil.

  • @stephfoxwell4620
    @stephfoxwell4620 4 місяці тому +101

    Tories in power for 32 of the last 45 years.
    72% of the time.

    • @dotty1774
      @dotty1774 4 місяці тому

      Yep and Only 3 Labour Leaders have ever won a General Election, we need to change the system

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому +4

      @steph We need a democratic vote in the UK!😂😂

    • @petefl1818
      @petefl1818 4 місяці тому +7

      Yes, but don't forget Tory Blair ample time to reverse much of Thatcher's harmful legislation, like the right to buy, which he could have repealed but didn't.

    • @HistoritorJimaldus
      @HistoritorJimaldus 4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks to the antidemocratic system called FPTP

    • @stephenmurray8559
      @stephenmurray8559 4 місяці тому

      And that's exactly why labour, when they came in under Blair, set about destroying the country. So it could be rebuilt in his image. This is all Labours doing.

  • @geraintevans6360
    @geraintevans6360 4 місяці тому +42

    Media has an Awful lot to answer for

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 4 місяці тому

      LBC is a dumpsterfire of Labour bias.

    • @iala2058
      @iala2058 4 місяці тому

      YES. End of.

  • @luke7708
    @luke7708 4 місяці тому +93

    George Osborne. Without a second's hesitation. And he has gotten away with it

    • @woodngames
      @woodngames 4 місяці тому

      Osborne and Cameron , couldn't agree more . They should be held accountable for there ''FLEX'' to europe that went so very wrong .

    • @dean9235
      @dean9235 4 місяці тому +3

      And he's been getting away with it all his life.

    • @luke7708
      @luke7708 4 місяці тому +5

      @@dean9235 ...I now have 'Getting Away With It by Electronic in my head

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun 3 місяці тому +1

      Yup, Gideon is one of them along with Cameron.

    • @dean9235
      @dean9235 3 місяці тому

      All cast from the same distorted and masonic mould.

  • @dandybean
    @dandybean 4 місяці тому +23

    I blame the people unable to think critically.

    • @goonerbish
      @goonerbish 3 місяці тому

      I blame the people who think they can think.

  • @clacton17
    @clacton17 4 місяці тому +37

    Austerity and Brexit the Silent Killers in our Midst. End Off.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому

      @clacton Not forgetting lockdown!

    • @manvbees
      @manvbees 4 місяці тому

      Austerity literally means the country paying off its debt and not living beyond its means. Do you think its a mistake to have responsible public spending?

    • @jcookec
      @jcookec 4 місяці тому

      Austerity when you're spending less than what's coming in, we haven't had that.

    • @syriacchristianity9007
      @syriacchristianity9007 4 місяці тому

      We now have 3x as much debt than before Tories got into power, you must speculate to accumulate

    • @SimonFrack
      @SimonFrack 3 місяці тому

      @@manvbeesAt no point did we ever begin paying off the debt under the Tories.

  • @GaryV-p3h
    @GaryV-p3h 4 місяці тому +108

    Anyone who voted Tory &/or for brexit.

    • @davidgreen6490
      @davidgreen6490 4 місяці тому

      Brexit? LOL, that has nothing to do with the problems this country has..

    • @melluques8475
      @melluques8475 4 місяці тому +6

      Agreed🙏🏻🥺🕊

    • @turnerdali4676
      @turnerdali4676 4 місяці тому +5

      Agreed!👍🏼

    • @gumboson1974
      @gumboson1974 4 місяці тому

      We still don't have Brexit, we never got it. The Torys are responsible for it all, including delivering a Brexit that isn't.

    • @GaryV-p3h
      @GaryV-p3h 4 місяці тому +7

      @@gumboson1974 Thank you gorgeous your contribution comrade. Tell Putin to give you a few extra Rubbles for all your hard work.

  • @trevormj
    @trevormj 4 місяці тому +27

    Other than Thatcher for selling off the utility companies, I also blame Blair for not introducing PR whilst he had such a vast majority - all this brexshit would not have happened under PR.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому

      @trevor You obviously prefer the EU variety of bs.

    • @trevormj
      @trevormj 4 місяці тому +3

      @@chatham43 - simply put - yes it would have been better than 14 years of tory misrule..

    • @Lynnefromlyn
      @Lynnefromlyn 3 місяці тому +3

      @@chatham43the EU is not responsible for the BS in our waterways and on our beaches. Give your head a wobble!

  • @blackdogbarking
    @blackdogbarking 4 місяці тому +68

    I agree with first caller people will vote for Trump and Tories to avoid tax

    • @davidgreen6490
      @davidgreen6490 4 місяці тому

      Not really, in most European countries people vote just to keep out the left. If there had been a credible third party in Britain, the Tories would have gone years ago..

    • @ray-wm7yd
      @ray-wm7yd 4 місяці тому +16

      You won't avoid tory stealth taxes

    • @ne-ht4zx
      @ne-ht4zx 4 місяці тому +15

      Haha! Vote tories to avoid tax! How high are taxes now?

    • @manvbees
      @manvbees 4 місяці тому +3

      You think taxes are high now. Wait until labour need to fund their multi billion public sector and public housing plans 😂 you think money is free?

    • @Jdsfbgfvbvxv
      @Jdsfbgfvbvxv 4 місяці тому

      @@manvbeesmoney is free to those who already have plenty

  • @dsf6045
    @dsf6045 4 місяці тому +101

    get tory exit done

    • @lervish1966
      @lervish1966 4 місяці тому +1

      Votery

    • @amcc5887
      @amcc5887 4 місяці тому +4

      Yes 💪💪💪💯

    • @oliverprain7613
      @oliverprain7613 4 місяці тому +5

      Get Texit done ✔️

    • @JD-eq4dp
      @JD-eq4dp 4 місяці тому

      To be replaced by that Labour shower ? Are you mad ??

    • @missizaskun
      @missizaskun 4 місяці тому +3

      Best comment of all: Get Tory exit done. Love it!

  • @Thorkil9
    @Thorkil9 4 місяці тому +30

    Or - the influence of American think tanks and the creation of UK-based American-style think tanks - e.g. the Heritage Foundation

    • @darlik1
      @darlik1 4 місяці тому +2

      The ERG

  • @ferret9800
    @ferret9800 4 місяці тому +13

    The blame lays at the feet of the tory voter.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому

      @ferret And they should remain tory voters. They deserve each other!

  • @danmayberry1185
    @danmayberry1185 4 місяці тому +25

    Powell > Thatcher > Osborne > Murdoch/Bannon > Farage > Johnson

    • @DeanWickett-i2o
      @DeanWickett-i2o 4 місяці тому +2

      WHAT HAS BARRY BANNAN DONE TO CAUSE THIS? Leave the scottish footballer alone.

    • @RoofLight00
      @RoofLight00 4 місяці тому +1

      Accurate list.

    • @sijcalv
      @sijcalv 3 місяці тому +1

      Deluded left wing nonsense.

    • @btj-oo8xc
      @btj-oo8xc 3 місяці тому

      Murdoch should be after Powell

  • @lcg8220
    @lcg8220 4 місяці тому +29

    I still see people going on about how they don't trust any politicians because [insert long list of broken TORY promises], I also personally know people who blame "duh librul eleet" for tory policies, these people deserve our contempt at this point.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому

      @log We certainly don't want them voting Labour!

  • @marksykes1191
    @marksykes1191 4 місяці тому +10

    I have absolutely no compassion for the conned , they were completely willing participants !

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 4 місяці тому +1

      You cannot con an honest man.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому

      @mark We certainly don't want them returning to Labour that's for sure!

  • @MarkInOxford
    @MarkInOxford 4 місяці тому +13

    I blame Stanley Johnson, for inflicting Boris on the nation.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому

      @Markin And your Dad shouldn't get off scot free either.😊

    • @rogerphelps9939
      @rogerphelps9939 3 місяці тому

      Stan's Mrs had a lo o do wih it as well.

  • @PaulK-ve1pu
    @PaulK-ve1pu 4 місяці тому +20

    Margaret Thatcher. She's still in power.

    • @nigelsynnott7344
      @nigelsynnott7344 4 місяці тому +3

      From beyond the grave? Really???

    • @PaulK-ve1pu
      @PaulK-ve1pu 4 місяці тому +6

      @@nigelsynnott7344 Yep.The most important and influential peacetime PM in British history. I hated her but she changed Britain in ways that still loom large today.

    • @JohnHollyoak-vx6pn
      @JohnHollyoak-vx6pn 4 місяці тому

      @@nigelsynnott7344 True evil never dies!

    • @MsSmokeandmirrors
      @MsSmokeandmirrors 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@PaulK-ve1pu with her pal Reagan. Rot set in with them

    • @jogriffiths5766
      @jogriffiths5766 4 місяці тому

      @@nigelsynnott7344 Yep. Sunak gets his ouiji board out to get 'advised'...wouldn't surprise me.

  • @fig1115
    @fig1115 4 місяці тому +12

    the rich and there minions ,on both sides of the aisle.

  • @gavinsmith9564
    @gavinsmith9564 4 місяці тому +7

    Cameron, he was too much of a coward to stand up toi the far right.

  • @poplife123
    @poplife123 4 місяці тому +6

    Defo Cameron ..... he's the architect of this dreadful mess we are in .....never vote Tory

  • @wrestlingp
    @wrestlingp 4 місяці тому +9

    Oh my, where do we start? Cameron, Osborne, Clegg, Gove, Farage, Hunt, Dacre, Murdoch, Truss, Sunak, May, Johnson, Keunssberg, IDS, Hancock, Braverman, Dorries, Anderson, Rees Mogg. Just to name a few! 12 minutes is too short for this video!

    • @wrestlingp
      @wrestlingp 4 місяці тому +4

      @@Denis.Collins Denis you're out of touch mate, there's been 14 years of decline in this country since then. 2024 calling.

  • @chrish961
    @chrish961 4 місяці тому +15

    I agree...people should be more pro active in looking into the manifesto..I wish I had a pound for every time people who voted for BJ over corbyn...only to realise later that tory policies favoured the rich and corbyns manifesto contained more of what they wanted

    • @totalvoid6234
      @totalvoid6234 3 місяці тому

      Kind of true, but also political manifestos are works of complete fiction.

    • @goonerbish
      @goonerbish 3 місяці тому

      Power of the mainly right wing media. The are tge ones really in control.

  • @jayr9952
    @jayr9952 4 місяці тому +13

    The media are to blame

  • @darthmali
    @darthmali 4 місяці тому +20

    I have colleagues saying they will still vote for Cs. It baffles me considering we work with children living in poverty and deprivation

    • @chrishughes3405
      @chrishughes3405 4 місяці тому +2

      Regarding the op I see similar thing. Care home staff constantly struggling because of the massive underfunding to social care but they simply hate labour party. I genuinely believe most are gullible, inundated by right wing media social or otherwise and unhappy with their lives.

    • @Majorcorvo
      @Majorcorvo 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@raymondo6665
      Does it matter how large the wide-screen tv is?
      If its say 50" are you more poor or less poor?
      You also forgot to mention "mobile phone".
      Like you I'm sick of hearing about people less fortunate than me having access to windscreen entertainment and food.

    • @Majorcorvo
      @Majorcorvo 4 місяці тому

      @raymondo6665
      Ahh, "officially," gotcha.
      Maybe add "fact" at the end of the statement as well? That way, it can't be mistaken for an opinion.

    • @Majorcorvo
      @Majorcorvo 4 місяці тому

      @raymondo6665Nope.
      You were defining what you see as poverty.
      OP was questioning voting for the Tories.

    • @Lynnefromlyn
      @Lynnefromlyn 3 місяці тому

      @raymondo6665don’t be silly. You obviously don’t know anything about anything.

  • @liamfox1981
    @liamfox1981 4 місяці тому +41

    Margaret Thatcher, end of

    • @jannenreuben7398
      @jannenreuben7398 3 місяці тому

      The UK's problems started decades before Thatcher.

  • @blehblehorama
    @blehblehorama 4 місяці тому +3

    David Cameron is 100% at fault for everything

  • @janetpazio9992
    @janetpazio9992 4 місяці тому +3

    I agree with the caller who said George Osborne. What a wicked wicked policy is austerity. The rich certainly didn't suffer from austerity, in fact they gained from it. It's all just too disgusting and blatant cronyism

  • @BlaizeV
    @BlaizeV 4 місяці тому +17

    Brown not going to the Polls with an 11% lead is a massive what if moment, if he does the next election would be 2012 and with the feelgood Olympics I think Labour could've won that too. Then you are looking at 20 years of Labour and I trust Brown to of kept the UK finacially stable and thriving in that period. No austerity and No brexit. What a wonderful world that would be.

    • @woodngames
      @woodngames 4 місяці тому

      I remember the English newspapers around that time ''scotsman ruling westmister ,not in this country'' (that is me putting the headlines modestly) NOW LOOK at what you got for a PM and the one before him and the one before her and the one before him and one before her then the really dodgy one before that who has managed to weasel his way back into the corruption parties top honchos again. While Osbourne sits in the BBC telling the masses ''war is great fun ,nothing to see here''

    • @totalvoid6234
      @totalvoid6234 3 місяці тому

      Ignoring that Brown was 110% an austerity PM.

    • @SimonFrack
      @SimonFrack 3 місяці тому

      @@totalvoid6234It’s all relative.

  • @JohnHollyoak-vx6pn
    @JohnHollyoak-vx6pn 4 місяці тому +28

    Nigel Farage.

  • @scottfarrell1906
    @scottfarrell1906 4 місяці тому +5

    I thought alot can be blamed on Ed Miliband stabbing his brother in the back and Davids exit from British politics.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 4 місяці тому

      @scott Wonder if they're on speaking terms yet?😊

  • @glenncraig8825
    @glenncraig8825 3 місяці тому +2

    Def Nick Clegg. He enabled the Eton Boys, wiped out the LibDems, supported austerity. If he’d gone with Labour, this would be a totally different country.

  • @chassidyswann8951
    @chassidyswann8951 3 місяці тому +1

    What Nick Clegg did broke the trust of a lot of young people in politics and politicians.

  • @ExSquaddie
    @ExSquaddie 3 місяці тому +1

    The fathers of Thatcher, Blair, Osbourne, May, Sunak. The option to pull out was there, but they didn't.

  • @paulwebster4499
    @paulwebster4499 4 місяці тому +4

    The lady was absoultey corrcert. Brexit,was voted in due to the financial malaise of the working and middle classes. Carmeron and Osbourne are 100% to blame for Brexit

    • @johnrussell3961
      @johnrussell3961 4 місяці тому

      That was like saying you had Indigestion so you sawed both legs off,
      Voting Brexit was never a cure..

    • @paulwebster4499
      @paulwebster4499 4 місяці тому

      @@johnrussell3961 absoutley, but for lots of people it was the only protest vote available

  • @divinity176
    @divinity176 4 місяці тому +6

    The electorate.

  • @ffsytube
    @ffsytube 4 місяці тому +7

    The uninformed electorate

  • @JruTxAgnt
    @JruTxAgnt 3 місяці тому +3

    Osbourne and Cameron

  • @jakeblair4215
    @jakeblair4215 3 місяці тому +2

    Privitisation and lack of written constitution, plus fptp

  • @dawnlynch6300
    @dawnlynch6300 4 місяці тому +7

    Started with Thatcher in eighties then made worse since 2010

  • @thetramp
    @thetramp 3 місяці тому +1

    I could see an argument for Nick Clegg.
    He said that they'd sort student debt, which split the labour vote between lib dem and Labour. So that caused either labour to not get in, or gave LD enough seats that a coalition with the conservatives was possible that in turn gave them a "majority" because LD and Nick Clegg was too spineless to push back on things, which in turn allowed the conservatives to do what they wanted.

  • @bahriboy
    @bahriboy 4 місяці тому +22

    Centrists, media & Labour HQ are most to blame, for denying us a Corbyn govt that would have started the real transformation of this country desperately needed.

    • @mwd331
      @mwd331 4 місяці тому +3

      It’s over. Move on.

    • @SlowhandGreg
      @SlowhandGreg 4 місяці тому +1

      we've had a Right wing - then Centre Then Right wing government for 50 years and you wanted to reverse 50 years of policies in 5 do you not know how silly that sounds and why you lost by a lot in 2019?

    • @K_Ri-mw4hr
      @K_Ri-mw4hr 4 місяці тому +5

      Corbyn would not have fixed this country.
      Not necessarily because I disagree with the policies. I haven't had a proper look into them, but some I disagree with. Some I agree with. But moreso the political reality of Britain.
      Corbyn is very left wing, compared to the wider UK. There was no realistic prospect of Corbyn winning and being able to deliver the changes to the nation whilst still being able to effectively govern. It's the same reason why a lot of modern-day Labour policies have been watered down. Reality is, we do need to cater to the right wing & the centrists, because to effectively govern, you need to compromise.

    • @susannahhunt100
      @susannahhunt100 4 місяці тому +5

      I am a Corbyn fan, but feel scared to say it. Well I just have.

    • @ecaeas4439
      @ecaeas4439 4 місяці тому

      😂😂 Yeah sure! it was definitely Labour HQ and not corbyn himself that lost him the election in 2017 when the tories were very unpopular due to the state of the NHS.

  • @Martinbeef
    @Martinbeef 4 місяці тому +4

    I agree about the Gordon Brown. If he had called his election earlier, things might be very different. I remember before 2010 being so much better on so many ways. My life has been changed for the worse by the Tories and I’m still fighting to get the healthcare I need which was taken away. I might have been able to return to work. Instead, given drug after drug (now on 20 drugs a day) as the NHS isn’t geared up for healing, just treating. It’s a massive difference.

    • @Torstenn-b3x
      @Torstenn-b3x 4 місяці тому

      Hmm maybe it is true that it was a monumental mistake on Gordon Brown's part that he didn't run the election when he could have won it, but I wouldn't put the blame at his door for all that followed. After all, nothing _made_ the Coalition Government and the subsequent Conservative Government do what they did; they _chose_ to do so, and that choice was theirs and not Gordon Brown's. They could have made different choices, choices in Britain's best interests and _they_ chose not to.

  • @jimmyjones9780
    @jimmyjones9780 4 місяці тому +6

    Your country is in an irreversible mess .... You voted them in, so blame yourselves.

    • @jaxcoss5790
      @jaxcoss5790 3 місяці тому

      Errrrr..... not all of us!

  • @matthewrotherham1
    @matthewrotherham1 4 місяці тому +21

    ''I don't see how tuition fees helped the breaking of Britain''
    ...Gatekeeping learning and trying to stop the commoners going to Uni isn't an issue to you James?
    Seems a bit of an obvious issue!

    • @mrbearbear83
      @mrbearbear83 4 місяці тому +2

      That's a huge issue.

    • @DerIchBinDa
      @DerIchBinDa 4 місяці тому +6

      Education is one of the few equalizers in modern society and tacking a price tag to it means the less wealthy are more hindered in getting education.
      This is something I am actually proud of here in Germany that there are no tuition fees (with a very few exceptions)!

    • @Stew661
      @Stew661 4 місяці тому +2

      Most unis in Britain provide an almost useless higher education anyway with the caveat of if you do a vocational programme like medicine or engineering, or else want to be a professional academic. Its a relic of a bygone age of scholarship, digging into some arcane study on how Henry 8th dismantled the church in history, or in economics trying to figure out if inflation and employment are connected, etc etc. Its become a big industry over the decades and doesnt produce the skills which are actually needed in business or in the public sector. On the question specifically of fees, if the taxpayer pays for higher education what happens is an electrician in Manchester ends up subsidising the daughter of a property developer in knightsbridge to read Jane Austin novels in English literature class when not going out for drinks with her friends in the student bar. Should the person receiving the benefit, perceived or real, not pay the cost for it? Isn't that real social justice?

    • @michaelnobbs5028
      @michaelnobbs5028 4 місяці тому

      You only pay it back if you earn enough and it’s out of your tax you can even resit a year and get funding

    • @DerIchBinDa
      @DerIchBinDa 3 місяці тому

      @@michaelnobbs5028 Still worse then just fund it upfront as lot of studies showed that putting tuition fees on higher education has an chilling effect especially for kids from poorer background.

  • @Ukandy19
    @Ukandy19 4 місяці тому +1

    Let’s not forget that O’Brien is the man who spends most of his time crying about how biased everyone else is…incredible

  • @harryfieldson
    @harryfieldson 4 місяці тому +7

    The likes of Johnson and Farage obviously sicken me for what they consciously did, but they were acting in their own self interest and it's kind of in their nature. The one who really frustrates me is Jeremy Corbyn. At a time where we needed a Keir Starmer and a rock solid labour party, we had an ideologue who refused to put electability above his personal passions. To allow him to sit there ruminating on socialism whilst for years people were telling him "Dianne Abbott is a liability", "the antisemitism business NEEDS sorting out", "the general populace who aren't young adults do not want this socialist rhetoric, they want sensible social democratic liberalism and they want you to give them a reason to swing red as opposed to blue" - it makes me want to blame him for letting us continue rolling on past him down the hill, even if he wasn't the one who gave us the push to begin with. What a waste of an opportunity to stop this carnage his campaign was.

    • @ThaigressWhisperer
      @ThaigressWhisperer 4 місяці тому +1

      Well said. I would only replace "frustrates" by "infuriates", but other than that, my thoughts exactly.

    • @garagenigel
      @garagenigel 4 місяці тому +3

      To be fair if the client media didn't destroy Ed Miliband over a photo of him eating a bacon sandwich we probably wouldn't be in this mess now! But you are right Corbyn should have done what Starmer is doing now.....play the long game and when in power you can start talking about more socialist things!

    • @colinmack8655
      @colinmack8655 4 місяці тому +1

      So you want Sir Kid Starver rather than a man of principal

    • @garagenigel
      @garagenigel 4 місяці тому

      @@colinmack8655 the man of principle lost an election because he sat on his hands over Brexit!

    • @ThaigressWhisperer
      @ThaigressWhisperer 4 місяці тому

      ​@@colinmack8655 You're confusing principles and dogma. Doesn't come as a surprise, given the fact that you seem only capable of conjuring a gratuitous trumpian-level insult that better suits platforms like X.

  • @matthewcook9404
    @matthewcook9404 4 місяці тому +5

    It can’t be denied that Nigel “Man of the PayPal” Farage played a crucial role in Brexit and the UK leaving the EU. His name will forever be synonymous with the success, the year on year improvements in the quality of life, living standards, economic prosperity, health and welfare, environmental standards, and international reputation and influence of our wonderful country since Brexit. We can only thank the Lord that he wasn’t successful in getting his German / EU passport ( unlike his children, who did, via his German ex wife )and moving to Germany.

    • @JC-un4bg
      @JC-un4bg 3 місяці тому

      After Brexit trades man wages actually went up

  • @shahdrah
    @shahdrah 3 місяці тому +1

    Blair! When he followed and pushed to war in Iraq and subsequently many after. Started a spiral of a wider conflict could have been avoided. Since then the “Special Relationship” and then Brexit has affected us badly and a Tory government for far too long.

  • @robinmcara793
    @robinmcara793 4 місяці тому +6

    This is all our faults. We as a nation, all stood by and watched it happen. The media enabled it all. We watched them lie every single day. Can't blame anyone else.

  • @ohtheirony7723
    @ohtheirony7723 3 місяці тому +1

    The caller regarding Nick Clegg has a point but from a different perspective. The thing that broke Britain is absolute majorities, whips and spineless MPs who go with the party no matter what. Lib Dem’s had a sizeable contribution to politics as the 3rd party and were key in removing this binary 2 party chaos. But since Nick Cleggs pathetic performance, Lib Dem’s have been decimated and therefore, the polarisation and further push to total binary parties is absolute chaos. The next election, I fear a huge majority Labour Party. No healthy democracy functions with huge majorities and strict 3 line whips. We need MPs to vote with their beliefs regardless of party.

  • @dotty1774
    @dotty1774 4 місяці тому +1

    Osborne has said Rachael Reeves is the heir to David Cameron and has praised her fiscal policies.

  • @PercivalBlakeney
    @PercivalBlakeney 3 місяці тому +1

    "If you want better politics, you don't need better politicians… you need a better electorate."
    - Christopher Hitchens.

  • @derekarnold3665
    @derekarnold3665 4 місяці тому +15

    The solution to Britain's problem is to rejoin the Single Market.

    • @andrewelder8212
      @andrewelder8212 4 місяці тому +2

      Maybe the solution, but will the EU swallow it!

  • @FizzzieCat
    @FizzzieCat 3 місяці тому +1

    I think it is the wrong question; it’s not who, but what is to blame. This isn’t one person’s fault.

  • @andyfalcon5163
    @andyfalcon5163 4 місяці тому +1

    Tony Blair, shifted Overton window by shifting Labour right of center took Britain from boom to bust and made the current tories swing far right.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 4 місяці тому +1

    I guess James ignores the fact that even though George ruined the country Reeves fiscal rules is just a continuation of Osbornes policies.

  • @effinjamieTT
    @effinjamieTT 3 місяці тому +1

    At the end of the day, the Libdems enabled the Tories. It was the coalition’s policies of austerity that led to Brexit.

  • @RoofLight00
    @RoofLight00 4 місяці тому +1

    Thatcher - privatisation/right to buy
    Murdoch - privatisation
    Cameron - Brexit
    Gove - Brexit
    Farage - Brexit
    Osbourne - Brexit
    May - Brexit
    DePfiffel- Brexit
    Truss - budget/crashing the pound
    Crispin odey/hedge fund billionaires/ultra rich
    Sunak - Brexit

  • @robertcoleman6153
    @robertcoleman6153 4 місяці тому +1

    Anyone considering voting Tory needs to remember that this is not the conservative party of pre 2016. The centrists like Rory Stewart etc have been purged and what remains is something completely different. To be honest, the current labour party is nearer to what the old Tories were pre '16.

  • @robh8814
    @robh8814 4 місяці тому +1

    Clegg has an awful lot to answer for. Without Clegg then Cameron wouldn't have got in. He also wouldn't have won 2015, Brexit & the rest is history..

  • @James-ld2jc
    @James-ld2jc 4 місяці тому +2

    So much of the chaos started with Thatcher

    • @jannenreuben7398
      @jannenreuben7398 3 місяці тому

      No it didn't. Britain was overtaken economically by Germany in the 1870s and has been playing catchup ever since.

  • @james970027
    @james970027 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm not that old (30) but i honestly feel this decline has been happening for the last half a century based on datasets and statistics on factors in healthcare and the housing market:-
    For example in 1970 you could buy the average home on the average wage in around 4.2 years salary (fully paid off) while by 2020 this had effectively doubled to 8.4 years.
    In healthcare on the other side, there has been a continuous decline in hospital bed capacity year upon year (statista for reference - cant share links on YT anymore it seems). The health of the local population appears to have been continuous devalued in the view of many politicians while we have seen an increase in people out of work and difficulties accessing NHS services.
    I'm confident there are a lot more factors involved which are clear but the point I make is that the country has not kept wages fairly in line with essential costs and those with ill health struggle more now to get support and treatments they require. When you make it so difficult to survive for many, people lose hope and stop looking after themselves which leads to a deadly combination of ill health with a system that can't effectively deal with it. Politicians in this country effectively need to bite the bullet and begin to look at balancing wages fairly in line with the cost of essentials or they can go for what economic outcome they want but the reality is businesses will continue to struggle to get quality workers, particularly with the housing crisis and pushback on reliance of foreign workers whom historically they have been able to pay less than uk minimum wage.

  • @soviet700
    @soviet700 4 місяці тому +1

    Thatcher. By a mile. Many links. James Buchanan. Edward Bernays. John Nash.

  • @SimonProctor
    @SimonProctor 4 місяці тому +1

    On thing Nick Clegg did was give Cameron a taste for referendums with the AV referendum. And because it was a referendum for something the Lib Dems didn't want they didn't campaign that hard.
    Cameron got to see just how neat referendums could be and how some creative story telling coyld help you get the result you want.
    So arguably it led to the later Tory majority (when a bunch of Lib Dems stopped voting in disgust with the coalition) and the Brexit referendum...
    That's my argument for why Nick Clegg should be on the list.

    • @SimonProctor
      @SimonProctor 4 місяці тому

      But very low down on the list.

  • @ilikehorses57
    @ilikehorses57 4 місяці тому +3

    Haven't watched yet but being 12 minutes long, I bet at least one person says Corbyn

  • @muaythaimarkthailand
    @muaythaimarkthailand 3 місяці тому

    This is one of my favourite segments James has actually done.

  • @djmartin5240
    @djmartin5240 4 місяці тому +13

    The media

    • @danmayberry1185
      @danmayberry1185 4 місяці тому

      What .. all of it?

    • @welliamd2463
      @welliamd2463 4 місяці тому

      @@danmayberry1185 who is *most* to blame. Not all of it, *most* of it.

    • @AntonSmyth-od6rc
      @AntonSmyth-od6rc 4 місяці тому +2

      *Meedja

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 4 місяці тому

      Most people get their news from social media which is a cesspool of bias and misinformation

  • @OrcusMaximus
    @OrcusMaximus 4 місяці тому +1

    Gordon Brown didn't contribute to bringing the country to its knees? Have we forgotten the 2008 global financial crash, of which GB was one of the main architects with his encouragement of the house price boom?

  • @timhandley7408
    @timhandley7408 3 місяці тому +1

    Forgot to mention that George Osborne collected more tax revenue than anyone before him !

  • @S-Ltd1000
    @S-Ltd1000 4 місяці тому +3

    Anyone mentioned Tony Blair yet? Starmer just might top that w⚓.

  • @jasonsmithy6822
    @jasonsmithy6822 3 місяці тому +2

    Without doubt Arthur Fowler from Eastenders

    • @terencemeikle534
      @terencemeikle534 3 місяці тому

      Nah, you're barking up the wrong tree, squire. It's Roly who done it. It's him. I never trusted that poodle. Eyes too close together. 🐩

  • @JimmyDreadNDMS
    @JimmyDreadNDMS 3 місяці тому

    Arron Banks, Richard Tice & Nigel Farage and their Brexit machinations, enabling that shitshow

  • @pip1723
    @pip1723 4 місяці тому +1

    For me it started with Cameron and his austerity and got progressively worse .

  • @stephenjameslawley3731
    @stephenjameslawley3731 4 місяці тому +2

    The human species and the British are to blame . change the system and educated the population

  • @ukbuddhist
    @ukbuddhist 4 місяці тому +1

    Biggest downfall - Tory and Brexit voters.

  • @rev.olution583
    @rev.olution583 4 місяці тому +1

    Blimey Your not accusing Corbyn LBC wanted the Tories before Corbyn LBC have to take their share of the blame

  • @RazorMouth
    @RazorMouth 4 місяці тому +8

    Labour of course, havent they been in power for the last 14 years.
    Oh wait.

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 4 місяці тому

      Yeah Labour did so well when the Global economy in the 90s and early 2000s (best the World has ever seen) made it so hard for them to succeed, and they didn't leave a note to the Tories to say they ran out of money. Oh wait...

  • @stepearceu2
    @stepearceu2 4 місяці тому +2

    In a way, it's nice the incompetence and corruption has continued since Boris ran away in shame - we all have short memories and had there been even a few months of stability and tangible improvements, that may have all been forgotten and there may have been a real chance we'd have had another 4 years of the leavers who won't leave.

  • @jordanwalker2804
    @jordanwalker2804 3 місяці тому

    Peter Thiel - American tech CEO and venture capitalist who won the NHS IT contract.
    I feel like there was another one where the NHS were given software on the cheap/free but then the renewal cost was astronomical- as was the quote for moving everything over to a new system... Maybe it was the Thiel contract, maybe it was American healthcare... But anyone who goes into the NHS for a profit margin could justifiably go in an appendices, at the very least.

  • @mrwidestrides4802
    @mrwidestrides4802 4 місяці тому +3

    Free cup of sewage water if you tick conservative

    • @totalvoid6234
      @totalvoid6234 3 місяці тому

      Free cup of sewage water if you tick labour too.

  • @v-4-vendetta
    @v-4-vendetta 4 місяці тому +1

    Gordon Brown who dithered and lost to Cameron who then brought about Farage, Gove, Boris and Brexit

  • @tombartram7384
    @tombartram7384 4 місяці тому

    We've gone from 2.5 million unemployed in 2009 to "we need unlimited immigration" 15 years later.

  • @mattyr40
    @mattyr40 3 місяці тому

    The medias lack of real journalism where it matters

  • @gary1642
    @gary1642 2 місяці тому

    Nick Clegg never seems to get a mention when these questions are asked. Clegg constantly complained he had fights every day with Cameron and Osborne over austerity cuts. Never forget it was Clegg that handed the keys of Downing St to the terrible twosome...

  • @LA-fr7fx
    @LA-fr7fx 3 місяці тому

    We have become a very lazy nation. Bosses/managers/employees laziness and incompetance are all to blame!

  • @boris1066
    @boris1066 4 місяці тому +1

    To blame David Davis for single handedly changed an Indicative Referendum into a legally binding vote to leave during a few moments speach in the commons !!!

  • @murder13love
    @murder13love 3 місяці тому

    The public are.

  • @weezer5442
    @weezer5442 3 місяці тому

    England is living in the 12th Century. No Constitution, no bill of rights, just what? The Magna Carta, of rights and liberties put forth by King John in 1215. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!

  • @stevenovetsky3274
    @stevenovetsky3274 4 місяці тому +1

    George Osborne is most responsible.

  • @lordnoodle2146
    @lordnoodle2146 3 місяці тому

    I think Nick Clegg should maybe get a notable mention because at the time labour wasn't as strong of an opposition as it is today. When the Lib Dems went to bed with the Tories. It weakened their over arching appeal as another alternative and were seen as Diet Tory which meant people who didn't want to vote Labour didn't feel like voting Lib Dems were worth it so they voted Tory which was seen as the lesser of Two evils at the time

  • @michaelsimpson4400
    @michaelsimpson4400 4 місяці тому +3

    Something happened in 1997... Blair. Cameron became the Tory Blair and Sir Kier is being advised by the same people as Blair.

    • @shaun906
      @shaun906 4 місяці тому +1

      he's working class like me, he has my vote.

    • @michaelsimpson4400
      @michaelsimpson4400 4 місяці тому

      @@shaun906 who? Sir Kier? Lol net worth almost £8 million

    • @garagenigel
      @garagenigel 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@michaelsimpson4400 he came from nothing and worked his way up to become the best in the country at his job and was awarded a knighthood for it as everyone in that job does when they leave the role! I don't see why someone doing well for themselves should be ashamed of it! Are you jealous?
      Just to add, your hero Corbyn is just as wealthy as him!

  • @JamesRicketts-y7y
    @JamesRicketts-y7y 3 місяці тому

    Clegg said if he won he wouldn’t raise tuition fees and people are still blaming him for something he didn’t do because he didn’t win.