The guy has a point but he seems unable to realise that the fact we did get involved means that we probably do have a duty to help them out in the aftermath.
The UK abandoned the Afghans who helped them but South Korea (a much smaller country) was able to get all nearly 400 Afghans who helped them out safely. When they arrived to Korea there were all given housing and jobs. If they can do that there is no way that the UK couldn't handle it.
South Korea is way more organised and capable plus fortunately more humane than the UK which wages these wars for evil causes and not what they pretend its for.. the hypocrisy that costs millions of lives has to end
The reasons that the US, UK, and even us here in Canada, should be helping with the refugees from Afghanistan is two-fold. Firstly, because it is humane to do so. Secondly, "you break it, you buy it".
Paul is the type of person that knows everything about everything but actually knows nothing about everything. I pity his poor wife or congratulate his ex-wife.
The UK and the US arguably have a far bigger responsibility in Afghanistan and the middle east in general because they're the reason that region is so hostile.
Europe should have told the USA that Arabia was our back yard . We went along with bombing Libya into dysfunctional country, and now Libya is the base for people smuggling into Europe. The USA would never have been so rash in Mexico.
Well, they ignored the 2014 invasion of Ukraine by Russia, and Putin hasn’t seen any repercussions for his decades of human rights violations until very recently. So I think the responsibility of the West lies equally in accepting Ukrainian refugees.
our responsibilities are laid out in law, every country that signed that agreement has a responsibility to accept refugees, If the United Kingdom wishes to withdraw from that agreement they can through their government, however there will be repercussions for this, I would like to think citizens of the UK have learned their lesson as far as consequences for bad decisions after the Brexit debacle
We had a student where I used to teach who collapsed and blacked out on his way to class. We were then told that he was suffering from PTSD after his entire village was slaughtered by the Taliban he hid and survived. It took two years to make his way across Europe to the UK and at the first time that he felt safe and settled, all the trauma caught up with him. And none of them get any mental health support.
We are spending the PTSD therapy money on teaching Ukranians to speak english. Ukraine 1st vecause they are white. Remember the MP who went to the refugee processing office and saw an entire floor of people busy working on processing only Ukrainians even as Windrush victims languished. The UK doesnt even hide its racism anymore. Its on full display for all who open their eyes to see
Lets be honest the guy didn't google anything even though he was claiming the article didn't exist. He's the type to do no research and think he's an expert.
To him what women want is not important as they are second class humans put here to be exploited just as anyone with a different skin color is or anyone born with less wealth than him
@@chatham43 My thoughts are my own but I do like to think they're influenced by compassion rather than the tabloids, I do appreciate you acknowledging my greatness though.
...how far does your compassion stretch though...words are cheap as you know...do you help out at foodbanks for example...or donate significant amounts to charity...?
@@chatham43 I spent two years helping out at a homeless hostel giving housing advice because that was my area of expertise and I have direct debits set up to a couple of charities but I'm not wealthy, I'm no Saint but I feel I do my bit.
Well yeah one lot are brown and Muslim, the others are white and European. People generally get on best with their own. Honestly if you asked most people would they have rather have Ukrainian refugee family move in or a Afghan family, most would chose the Ukrainians
@@danieloliver4558that's not the point. He's not saying he'd rather have a ukrainian in his house. Hes saying only the Ukrainians should get help. Do you really think this guy would actually help a refuge personally? I dont think so
@@brentoncarter4275 actually many have in the case of Ukrainians. There was actually a government program to pair refugees with people that were willing to take them in. Something like that would never even be suggested for Iraqis. You're just making my point for me now
@@danieloliver4558Ignorant people usually get on with their own. Decent people will get on with other decent people regardless of their ethnicity/culture
Paul in Cornwall seems to think the Taliban are nice enough to distinguish between interpreters who assisted the UK government with combat missions, and interpreters who assisted UK government with advisory missions. 🤦♂️
We are not there to build nations states, says Paul. He is right. The British have NEVER built a state. They have only looted and when they saw nothing to loot in Afghanistan they left😂
You're right in one way, The North Sentinel islanders do what GB News viewers dream off, massacring all those that show up on the island shores. So I suppose they must be your idols? @palerider955
There’s something kinda funny about a British person saying that it’s none of our business what goes on in other people’s countries 🤣 Mate, you know anything about British History? Majority of it takes place outside of Britain
I mean technically you are completely wrong but if you pick the parts only set outside of Brtain than yes you have an empty argument, however that caller is a bit of an idiot, equally I don't like the race baiting by the presenter
Paul, everything I hate about this country and it’s aging right wingers and I’m a 73 years old white male born in Manchester and lived in little england all of my life.
Paul dismissing and mocking the other caller on the basis of having compassion for other people beautifully sums up everything wrong with his way of thinking.
A very common theme on LBC (especially on James O´Brien´s show): caller phones in with a strong opinion, based on little (or no) information, then defends their position with a truculently repeated phrase or slogan in lieu of an argument. Host examines the internal contradictions of what they are saying. Caller gets angry and departs in a huff.
@@petelawless811 if you find the idea that morons exist inconceivable then i'd suggest finding the nearest mirror in your home and swiftly disabusing yourself of that notion.
I lobe tue jedi mind tricks tury play 9n people and they people admit tuey don't know anything about what they're talking about except for what ever channels theyy watch and the opinions the channels give. Tell-A-Vision and each thing you watch is called a program. So they are telling you their vision and programming you. They're telling you exactly what they are doing and people still fall ofr it.
Imagine getting red-faced at Afghan refugees and not the people who have destroyed this country The UK is over. All this country does do is move money around, and the rest of us work low paid service sector jobs to serve the city of London.
@hayleyxyz You have summed it up.. I left UK in 1987 to teach here in Germany .I look now and cannot believe what has happened .I did take a week off at my expense to protest against Brexit though . Mind you 15years out of UK voting is not allowed but I tried . Love your comment Hayley
That depends. You can’t be sure, there’s a huge number of individuals in reports that refuses to be seen by GPs that are from a particular heritage or faith. Look it up
Almost everything Paul said about Afghanistan could be applied to Ukraine but he ironically can the difference, maybe it’s because he thinks he can take advantage of the Ukrainian women 🤷🏾♂️
@@TheAArmstrong Nope it was to look for the terrorist Osama Bin Laden orriginally. It was the US that created the Taliban in the first place to get Russia out, and when the US then invades them dothey not see the US as an occupier in the similar was Russia was? As far as I recall there have been np terrorist attacks in the West by the Taliban
Was it New Zealand's responsibility to take British refugees during WW2? This is why internationally we take in refugees because one day it might be us and when that happens we would like to think other nations would help us
Kind of like what happens in a United Nations? In WW2 NZ was an independent nation there was no law that said we had to take your people, no agreement but we did it anyway, then we helped feed you and rebuild your war ravaged country. I guess NZers are just better people than the British@@db-t3175
I mean seriously @ Chris Harris???? New Zealanders just like my grandparents in Malta and Cyprus were British subjects, under the protection of His majesty the King, the Royal Navy, the British empire armed forces and the rest. Japan wanted to take over Australia and New Zealand or at least subjecting them to servitude and vassalage.
What protection did you offer when we were attacked by France? None, you turned your backs, the only time we have ever been attacked by another nation and all our allies chose economic relations with France over the debt you owed us and the agreements you signed, we owe you nothing, also you did not defend us against the Japanese, the Americans did@@eddiecalderone
@@chrisharris1522 When the incident with France happened New Zealand already had passed law to breakaway fein British influence, hence the involvement in the Vietnam war. The USA actually suspended New Zealand from their military alliance during the Reagan government because of the anti nuclear stance .
Paul is why we have Brexit... and why people of a certain 'vintage' should be excluded from such votes whilst allowing 14yr olds, who such decisions will ultimately affect, should be informed and then allowed to vote in their stead 👍
I think most people under the age of 18 don’t really have that much of an interest in politics to care - and most would just vote the same way as their parents anyway. Hypothetically if the kids were allowed to vote on Brexit, they would have consumed the exact same arguments from both sides that everyone else did, so I don’t see it making that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things for both of those reasons.
So basically your saying he’s now automatically valid in the conclusions he has drawn just because this ‘quiet’ imaginary majority of the population think the same thing. If that was the case, then surely the nazis were quite rightly justified in their rule of Germany just because the majority of whites thought the same way - how ridiculous of a thing to say
The vast majority can think that all they want and they should also remind themselves of 400 years of colonialism and the havoc that reaked all over the world. And then the Brits´stellar negotiation skills gave us India vs Pakistan and Israel vs Palestine!!!!
The UK shouldn’t have invaded Afghanistan in the first place because of a false pretext. I’m pretty sure the west actually funded and established the mujihadeen.
It's also worth noting that the UK, which obviously has no responsibility for these taliban "with their RPG's and AK-47's", sold the middle east most of it's weapons in a stunningly well thought out trade deal which could only have been projected to end in grateful allies and regional stability.
There was no reason to attack Afghanistan and Iraq the way we did. The US were just embarrassed (if we’re to believe they weren’t involved) by 9/11 and didn’t want to look weak. They could have found Bin Laden without killing millions of innocent people and destroying their country’s
None of our business when it comes to Afghanistan but it’s definitely our business when it comes to Ukraine, strange how the only difference between the women and children of each happens to be their skin colour.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yes ladies and gentlemen of the world Paul is a typical English guy who loves foreigners and then says I'm not rasict I have black friends 😂😂😂😂🎉🎉
It's not our job to fix their nation state...after we directly destabilize theirs, promise to support then, and profit off of the war that broke their nation. You Brits sound just like us Americans. We have so much in common.
By this guys logic if we shouldn't support Afghanistan because its 'not against a nation state' then according to Russia, Ukraine isn't a nation state and its just an internal issue.
@@lynnevenables7193 it's not an extension of his logic at all. Afghanistan's situation is internal. We drew lines and started withdrawing years ago. It's horrid. But 40+ countries that made up ISAF said "we've tried and spent enough, we're going now". The Afghan military and Police for the large part couldn't or wouldn't stand up for democracy or a united Afghanistan. Effectively it's been a coup in Afghanistan, that's been welcomed by many of its electorate. Ukraine is fighting an external oppressor that has illegally invaded, violating at least two treaties where the USA and the UK amongst others made guarantees to Ukrainian security. Particularly for giving up inherited nuclear weapons since the USSR fell apart. We have a moral obligation to support a sovereign, democratically elected Government fighting for the survival of its people. As I say, the Afghan Government was on borrowed time.
@@db-t3175 I don't understand how its much different. What's external and internal is subjective when you're the one drawing the borders. I don't think you're understanding that its not about leaving Afghanistan its the fact that we intervened so we're responsible for the people who risked their lives to protect OUR troops but we wouldn't help them even though they contribute to our economy and if they helped the military are likely also very skilled.
No you’re not. Your country is not spending any money on Ukraine. Is giving expired ammunition and military Tehnic who was bought tens of years ago. From the military budget who would have been spend anyway. And it’s close to be expired and to be disabled . And to disable them, will cost your country money. So in a weird way the aid to Ukraine might get you save some money for not disable them, then it might get you money in the future when Ukraine will pay you back. Beside Patriot system nothing send to Ukraine had real value on the military market. So no. Get your facts straight.
I agree with Paul that we should stop meddling in other countries, especially as there’s so much hypocrisy but perhaps ask Paul about the increase in opioids exports during the time we occupied Afghanistan.
Also don't forget it was the US and their Western allies that practically created the Taliban. It's usually the case, when there's suddenly an influx of refugees, that the West have been meddling in other nations' business. Stop that, then you stop the forced migration.
It's really weird to hear Paul talk about "They didn't resist the Taliban" when they were trained, funded and equipped by the US against the Soviets. Cornwall as a country is almost wholly dependent on EU funding and aid. These are easy facts to research, and yet people willingly lie. It's not our job to interfere- but we did, that's how the Taliban got into power
Paul doesn’t understand the moment the U.K. stepped foot in Afghanistan it became our problem. The taliban were never going to be defeated by guns and bullets. We created more of them by the poor job we did for 20 odd years. Yes Paul it’s our problem. We invading them and left them once we took the oil…
Combat missions did end in 2014 and since was a train, advise and assist mission. The British military actually withdrew in July 2021 and then returned in August for "op pitting" to assist with the evacuation of embassy staff, contractors and roughly 15,000 Afghan civilians. It's true that without American forces NATO countries would never have been able to remain. The only reason violence was fairly low since 2020 was because of the American/Taliban peace talks which part of the agreement was for all US and NATO forces would leave by the April 2021 which was extended to September.. if western forces didn't leave the peace talks would have ended and the war would more likely than not escalated, as Britain had under 1000 troops in Afghanistan would mean redeploying and prolonging an already drawn out war. The whole thing was a mess..
Which proves the point that dialogue with your enemy is and should be the first call. But as Lockheed Martin will tell you, there’s no profit in peace- this is the biggest problem.
Glad to hear Paul finally confess where his views really come from...a mindset of bigotry! How is our world populated by such people? On one hand, he says it is not the job of the UK to build another country's nation state. Which begs the question: what then was the purpose of being in there for 20 years?
How many Japanese refugees do we see in the UK? Now, how many refugees from Afghanistan, Indian, Pakistani, Bengali, Africans, Syrians do we see in the UK? I wonder why!
‘It’s not our job to build a state’ but then proceeds to say in the same sentence ‘we were there for over 20 years’ people like him are morally finished.
My friend’s sister has recently fostered a boy from Afghanistan. He is 14, he lost his family when the Taliban took them away, he doesn’t know where they are. In Afghanistan he met up with another group of kids who walked for a year to get to England. She says he is the sweetest and politest boy imaginable but he is terrible traumatised and just wants his mum and dad. Luckily there are some people in England who have compassion and want to help but clearly not Paul. 😡
I love to hear a caller schooled by another caller. Of course we couldn’t stay there once the yanks left. Nevertheless we owed the afghans a duty of care for the assistance they gave.
We are under no obligation to value the lives of non whites. I have empathy for Ukraine because they're white European. I don't see the value in black and brown lives so it's a different story when it comes to them
The same people who talk about mainstream media all the time and then get facts from said media. It's just about whatever justifies their biases and opinions that have formed into toxic feelings.
The scariest thing, regardless of your point of view, is that Paul was unable or unwilling to see the flaws in his own logic and hence looks like a total muppet. Having said that, he is in fact wrong....obvious hypocrisy does not make for a resilient argument
I used to be from Afghanistan...and Pakistan and India, Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon, Morocco, Syria, Bangladesh...the list goes on. Used to break their little hearts when I told them I'm Greek 😂
No refugees are in Cornwall .. it doesn’t concern him .. he wasn’t in Afghanistan and he wants to throw these guys to the wolfs after they have been used for our purposes ..
Anyone remember when it was the Afghanis that where the empire makers , looting , robbing, invading and doing all the other empire type stuff. ? No? There's been over 160 empires in history are they held to the same as the British.
I feel like these rows wouldn’t be such an issue if immigration, migration, refugee status / asylum seeking was handled properly by our government. Genuine refugees should be helped regardless of where they come from, especially those who helped us and sided with us. People get annoyed because of the lack of control of our own borders with illegal crossings and stuff and tend to muddle it all together - maybe if our government actually handled all of this stuff properly it wouldn’t be such an issue in peoples eyes, but they see a lack of border control and thousands of illegal crossings taking place, which is rightfully going to annoy people for many different reasons.
I look at it this way, if Britain has interfered with any other country then Britain has a moral duty to give sanctuary to people fleeing the result of that interference. As to understand the state will have got more out of the countries it has interfered with than it will cost to give sanctuary to the residue of that interference.
"I don't think it's our job to interfere in these countries" Hasn't that been the way of the UK for centuries?
Well said
The guy has a point but he seems unable to realise that the fact we did get involved means that we probably do have a duty to help them out in the aftermath.
@@MartinParnhamLabour!
@@reeling-in Eh?
Unless they are stealing from these countries
The UK abandoned the Afghans who helped them but South Korea (a much smaller country) was able to get all nearly 400 Afghans who helped them out safely. When they arrived to Korea there were all given housing and jobs. If they can do that there is no way that the UK couldn't handle it.
South Korea is way more organised and capable plus fortunately more humane than the UK which wages these wars for evil causes and not what they pretend its for.. the hypocrisy that costs millions of lives has to end
We don't have any values in this country.
You never help a colonizer. I hope those afghans learnt their lesson now.
"It's not our job to help them"
Why TF did you invade their country then???
Also we are human so lets be humane please
Spot on 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
...that was an idiotic mistake...!
@@chatham43But it's ok that the Afghan people suffer the consequences of our mistake?
@@chatham43if I made an idiotic mistake I would make up for it.
The reasons that the US, UK, and even us here in Canada, should be helping with the refugees from Afghanistan is two-fold. Firstly, because it is humane to do so. Secondly, "you break it, you buy it".
Thirdly, our countries were the ones who wrote the international refugee treaties and conventions that our governments are now trying to weasel out of
Facts
Wasn't this whole thing in response to 9/11, an attack where majority of the perpetrators were Saudi?
And third because Alex said so and he will cry like a little girl if you don’t
@@petelawless811 I can see that someone is crying
Paul is the type of person that knows everything about everything but actually knows nothing about everything. I pity his poor wife or congratulate his ex-wife.
Dunning-Kruger effect
People who know everything are incapable of learning anything.
And you’re the type of person that would get folded in the street where I come from
@@petelawless811where are you from? Imaginary land?
@@Shsjier you want to meet do you ?
Send that Paul guy to go live in Afghanistan if he thinks it’s that easy?
...an obtuse comment...you can do better...!
@chatham43 he can probably do better but you can't.
😂😂😂😂
2nd caller is a legend!!
He is certainly a something-end
@@jeffsimon9594haha correct
The UK and the US arguably have a far bigger responsibility in Afghanistan and the middle east in general because they're the reason that region is so hostile.
Europe should have told the USA that Arabia was our back yard . We went along with bombing Libya into dysfunctional country, and now Libya is the base for people smuggling into Europe.
The USA would never have been so rash in Mexico.
Exactly
Have the USA provided routes for Afghan nationals to get over there ?
Well, they ignored the 2014 invasion of Ukraine by Russia, and Putin hasn’t seen any repercussions for his decades of human rights violations until very recently. So I think the responsibility of the West lies equally in accepting Ukrainian refugees.
our responsibilities are laid out in law, every country that signed that agreement has a responsibility to accept refugees, If the United Kingdom wishes to withdraw from that agreement they can through their government, however there will be repercussions for this, I would like to think citizens of the UK have learned their lesson as far as consequences for bad decisions after the Brexit debacle
We had a student where I used to teach who collapsed and blacked out on his way to class.
We were then told that he was suffering from PTSD after his entire village was slaughtered by the Taliban he hid and survived. It took two years to make his way across Europe to the UK and at the first time that he felt safe and settled, all the trauma caught up with him. And none of them get any mental health support.
I can’t imagine what that poor man has been through? :(
Mind Begs the Question:
If in a World
X oppose occupation - Heroes
Y oppose occupation - Terrorists
World Governed by - Righteous,Evil?
Why did he comes here?
We are spending the PTSD therapy money on teaching Ukranians to speak english. Ukraine 1st vecause they are white. Remember the MP who went to the refugee processing office and saw an entire floor of people busy working on processing only Ukrainians even as Windrush victims languished. The UK doesnt even hide its racism anymore. Its on full display for all who open their eyes to see
@@balance3201useless question
Lets be honest the guy didn't google anything even though he was claiming the article didn't exist. He's the type to do no research and think he's an expert.
Alex just makes things up
The Dunning-Kruger is strong with Paul in Cornwall
Excellent Tory Ministerial Material then!
Just like a DCMS minister telling the SC C4 is funded from the License Fee.
Whatever happened to her btw?
We can’t just take every body in everywhere despite what left wing elites say
Remove benefits problem solved
Paul has a PHD. in pub politics.
😆 hahaha
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Going to use that one😂
Nice one 😂
Yep🤣💯
"Do you think the women wanted the taliban?" Brilliant question to a misogynist
To him what women want is not important as they are second class humans put here to be exploited just as anyone with a different skin color is or anyone born with less wealth than him
Yes. That was diamond....
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Yes the same people who constantly belittle Britain say we're no longer a global power yet want us to allow in everyone in and be world police
He's evidence that the Mail and Express are getting their message out there.
In order to avoid mental pollution by such propaganda, avoid contact.
...and what's your message oh great one...or haven't you read the Guardian yet...😊
@@chatham43 My thoughts are my own but I do like to think they're influenced by compassion rather than the tabloids, I do appreciate you acknowledging my greatness though.
...how far does your compassion stretch though...words are cheap as you know...do you help out at foodbanks for example...or donate significant amounts to charity...?
@@chatham43 I spent two years helping out at a homeless hostel giving housing advice because that was my area of expertise and I have direct debits set up to a couple of charities but I'm not wealthy, I'm no Saint but I feel I do my bit.
Always amazes me that someone would willingly go on public radio and advertise their ignorance to the whole country.
...but you did here deano...why?
@@chatham43 In what way?
@@deanlowdon8381 They're just a troll account who fishes for responses with the same format (using ... unnecessarily) in every comment
@@TBakerXD What’s the point in that!?
Yes... but I love it!
He hates Afghanistan 🇦🇫 women and children but loves Ukraine 🇺🇦 women and children
😂😂😂
Well yeah one lot are brown and Muslim, the others are white and European. People generally get on best with their own. Honestly if you asked most people would they have rather have Ukrainian refugee family move in or a Afghan family, most would chose the Ukrainians
@@danieloliver4558that's not the point. He's not saying he'd rather have a ukrainian in his house. Hes saying only the Ukrainians should get help. Do you really think this guy would actually help a refuge personally? I dont think so
@@Shsjierthat's also not the point. No one houses refugees personally. Lol
@@brentoncarter4275 actually many have in the case of Ukrainians. There was actually a government program to pair refugees with people that were willing to take them in. Something like that would never even be suggested for Iraqis. You're just making my point for me now
@@danieloliver4558Ignorant people usually get on with their own. Decent people will get on with other decent people regardless of their ethnicity/culture
Paul in Cornwall seems to think the Taliban are nice enough to distinguish between interpreters who assisted the UK government with combat missions, and interpreters who assisted UK government with advisory missions.
🤦♂️
south korea a smaller country got all their 400 troops out to korea and gave them houses and jobs. The UK just left them to die and saved their dogs
We are not there to build nations states, says Paul. He is right. The British have NEVER built a state. They have only looted and when they saw nothing to loot in Afghanistan they left😂
What are you on about
@@mn5499read a book
@@cash3317 Ive read many to which one are you referring.
@@mn5499cornography magazines are not the book he is talking about
It was their mates the Americans who ran out of stuff to loot.
Paul needs to stop watching GB News
...which you have never watched so in a perfect position to comment...😊😂
I see what you mean but Tbf even GB News does invite guests on that share a point of view different to the channel and its hosts.
@chatham43 why would he watch that utter tripe.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@phillydavison😂😂😂😂😂
This caller reads the Daily Mail I’ll bet dollars to donuts 😅
Guaranteed he's a GB news viewer too
GB News viewers are less informed then the North Sentinel islanders. @palerider955
Mr paddy tarmacs people’s driveways and looks out for scrap metal and every finks der inglish fault 😢
You're right in one way, The North Sentinel islanders do what GB News viewers dream off, massacring all those that show up on the island shores. So I suppose they must be your idols? @palerider955
@palerider955They are, 100% of them.
There’s something kinda funny about a British person saying that it’s none of our business what goes on in other people’s countries 🤣
Mate, you know anything about British History? Majority of it takes place outside of Britain
He's highly-educated by our world-leading education system don't you know?
except when Winston Churchill ordered troops to fire on unarmed protesters who were marching because of food shortages.
I mean technically you are completely wrong but if you pick the parts only set outside of Brtain than yes you have an empty argument, however that caller is a bit of an idiot, equally I don't like the race baiting by the presenter
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Paul, everything I hate about this country and it’s aging right wingers and I’m a 73 years old white male born in Manchester and lived in little england all of my life.
Don’t worry you won’t be here much longer so mind your own
OK boomer
@@First_Sea_Lord_Ford you want some ?
Couldn’t agree with you more, unfortunately there are still too many white middle aged or older men and women who feel like this caller, very sad.
@@gregadair1546 I’m sure the feel the same about you
This guy is educated in the UK and we're world-leaders at education. It's tragic.
you cant educate pure hatred and racism
Based on how many vote Labour, education is a massive failure
higher education or the average bloke?
He attended The Nigel Farage school of Our Gammon of xenophobes.
@@Kevinacharles 🤣
Paul dismissing and mocking the other caller on the basis of having compassion for other people beautifully sums up everything wrong with his way of thinking.
He lives by the evils of people from hundreds of years ago.
He’s fooking right
We want Britain to bring back British
@@samali4327 yep and I want IFTI 🙏🏻🇮🇪🙏🏻
Whats that mate?
Nothing but ignorance! This is what we have to live with in this society.
A very common theme on LBC (especially on James O´Brien´s show): caller phones in with a strong opinion, based on little (or no) information, then defends their position with a truculently repeated phrase or slogan in lieu of an argument. Host examines the internal contradictions of what they are saying. Caller gets angry and departs in a huff.
Yeah it’s funny that isn’t it kind of like they stage how it goes every day
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@@petelawless811 if you find the idea that morons exist inconceivable then i'd suggest finding the nearest mirror in your home and swiftly disabusing yourself of that notion.
I lobe tue jedi mind tricks tury play 9n people and they people admit tuey don't know anything about what they're talking about except for what ever channels theyy watch and the opinions the channels give.
Tell-A-Vision and each thing you watch is called a program. So they are telling you their vision and programming you. They're telling you exactly what they are doing and people still fall ofr it.
Imagine getting red-faced at Afghan refugees and not the people who have destroyed this country
The UK is over. All this country does do is move money around, and the rest of us work low paid service sector jobs to serve the city of London.
Who do you think has destroyed the country ?
@@nathanfurnival8724 I thought it was politicians
Politicians are just the middle men between us and the faceless billionaire gangsters that really rule
@hayleyxyz You have summed it up.. I left UK in 1987 to teach here in Germany .I look now and cannot believe what has happened .I did take a week off at my expense to protest against Brexit though . Mind you 15years out of UK voting is not allowed but I tried . Love your comment Hayley
We're the new Ottoman Empire - the Sick Old Man of Europe that everyone else is waiting to get a piece of once the inevitable arrives
The "we should not intervene in other countries" from a British was hilarious 😂
The mentality lol , short memories of what the British did across the world for hundreds or thousands of years
As a student of history yea that was pretty hilarious😂
I feel sorry for anyone who knows Paul in real life and needs to deal with him every day. My condolences to each and everyone of them.
He seems like the type to think they're just making the tough decisions everyone else is too "weak" to make.
Paul is a Colonel in his own private army of one.
I imagine they all just say "yeah" to keep the c**t quiet
Like the comedian Patrice O'Neil said. I would throw my watch in the garbage and say you stole it so we wouldn't be friends anymore.
Well he certainly ain't wrong about the refugees not being 15 years old and the boats are always filled with men.
Honestly if this country had more marks and Less Paul's we would be an amazing country again. That's how it used to be
dunno about that, they both sound like bellends to me.
Yes I agree. I’m from Australia and I’m in shock watching this and watching the riots is disturbing.
The two most British callers to ever exist 😂..
Tory Englander vs civilised citizen.
🤣🤣 too right!!@@stephanguitar9778
English
“Once the American left, we had to go”!! Paul: who invited us to be there?
There's a total duality of view from Paul. He compartmentalises too much and cannot see the hypocracy of what he's saying.
Hypocrisy
@@JB_inks yeah, I'm dyslexic. Thanks for trying to help.
Paul is a reminder that we should stay in school and read something other than the daily mail.
The number of people with these views in UK will shock and dismay you.
I'm here 😇
Mark sounds like someone I’d have a beer and go on a march with. The guy sounds like he has a lot of compassion.
He wouldn’t let you marry his daughter tho govindji 🇮🇳
"Our role was purely training and advising", what a clown 🤡
Paul would have no qualms being treated by a foreign doctor or surgeon of course
Exactly lool
That depends.
You can’t be sure, there’s a huge number of individuals in reports that refuses to be seen by GPs that are from a particular heritage or faith. Look it up
@@eddiecalderoneHonestly, when I think they can't be that thick... It gets worse.
Almost everything Paul said about Afghanistan could be applied to Ukraine but he ironically can the difference, maybe it’s because he thinks he can take advantage of the Ukrainian women 🤷🏾♂️
Yep! On point.
Yap. He thinks that's his chance to get himself a broodmare to sire some white babies.
They were setting preferences when asked what refugees they could take in. Guess what they requested like it was a dating forum.
I think we can safely say that it is because they is brown…
You can read what everyone thinks to can you Sherlock
@JohnSmith-ez9xq who was talking to you John smith is that the name they gave you when they found you on the door step of a church?
@@petelawless811 *too.
Suddenly colonization is not cool😂
The guy forgets the West invaded Afganistan
Yes to remove the rampant terrorism over there
@@TheAArmstrong Nope it was to look for the terrorist Osama Bin Laden orriginally. It was the US that created the Taliban in the first place to get Russia out, and when the US then invades them dothey not see the US as an occupier in the similar was Russia was? As far as I recall there have been np terrorist attacks in the West by the Taliban
@@TheAArmstrong , you are such a comedian. LOL
@@TheAArmstrong Is that what cobalt is called now? 😂
@@lucianesaid171 Can’t actually tell me why I’m wrong….
Back in the old days, Paul was the type of person who'd write letters to newspapers.
He probably still does!😂
U.K. invaded Afghanistan and bombed it for years and promised to stay and protect the people.
These two callers should have a regular slot where they discuss the issues of the day, their back and forth was hilarious!
Was it New Zealand's responsibility to take British refugees during WW2? This is why internationally we take in refugees because one day it might be us and when that happens we would like to think other nations would help us
Er, yes it was. NZ was part of the empire/Commonwealth. That's what happens in a Commonwealth.
Kind of like what happens in a United Nations? In WW2 NZ was an independent nation there was no law that said we had to take your people, no agreement but we did it anyway, then we helped feed you and rebuild your war ravaged country. I guess NZers are just better people than the British@@db-t3175
I mean seriously @ Chris Harris???? New Zealanders just like my grandparents in Malta and Cyprus were British subjects, under the protection of His majesty the King, the Royal Navy, the British empire armed forces and the rest.
Japan wanted to take over Australia and New Zealand or at least subjecting them to servitude and vassalage.
What protection did you offer when we were attacked by France? None, you turned your backs, the only time we have ever been attacked by another nation and all our allies chose economic relations with France over the debt you owed us and the agreements you signed, we owe you nothing, also you did not defend us against the Japanese, the Americans did@@eddiecalderone
@@chrisharris1522
When the incident with France happened New Zealand already had passed law to breakaway fein British influence, hence the involvement in the Vietnam war.
The USA actually suspended New Zealand from their military alliance during the Reagan government because of the anti nuclear stance .
if you listen closely you can hear a weatherspoons in the background
😂😂
The main place to find the less well off Tory voter.
Nowt wrong with spoons
Your probably the sort of person scared to go in there
@@petelawless811 *you're
Paul is why we have Brexit... and why people of a certain 'vintage' should be excluded from such votes whilst allowing 14yr olds, who such decisions will ultimately affect, should be informed and then allowed to vote in their stead 👍
I think most people under the age of 18 don’t really have that much of an interest in politics to care - and most would just vote the same way as their parents anyway.
Hypothetically if the kids were allowed to vote on Brexit, they would have consumed the exact same arguments from both sides that everyone else did, so I don’t see it making that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things for both of those reasons.
Brexit still means brexit unfortunately for you lad🇬🇧
@@andrewwigham3026 Political education targeted at the young...this would be different than what has been before
The older people have got sense to see what is happening with this country youngsters no sense
Instead of helping we destroy and extort... Real help never involves war
He is only staying what the vast majority of white British people quietly think indoors but dare not say out loud.
So basically your saying he’s now automatically valid in the conclusions he has drawn just because this ‘quiet’ imaginary majority of the population think the same thing. If that was the case, then surely the nazis were quite rightly justified in their rule of Germany just because the majority of whites thought the same way - how ridiculous of a thing to say
The vast majority can think that all they want and they should also remind themselves of 400 years of colonialism and the havoc that reaked all over the world. And then the Brits´stellar negotiation skills gave us India vs Pakistan and Israel vs Palestine!!!!
The UK shouldn’t have invaded Afghanistan in the first place because of a false pretext. I’m pretty sure the west actually funded and established the mujihadeen.
Louder for those in the back.
We shouldn’t have done, but we did and we have an ethical duty to the people that are suffering there.
It's also worth noting that the UK, which obviously has no responsibility for these taliban "with their RPG's and AK-47's", sold the middle east most of it's weapons in a stunningly well thought out trade deal which could only have been projected to end in grateful allies and regional stability.
There was no reason to attack Afghanistan and Iraq the way we did.
The US were just embarrassed (if we’re to believe they weren’t involved) by 9/11 and didn’t want to look weak.
They could have found Bin Laden without killing millions of innocent people and destroying their country’s
Exactly
Very true. Bigger agenda.
Exactly
None of our business when it comes to Afghanistan but it’s definitely our business when it comes to Ukraine, strange how the only difference between the women and children of each happens to be their skin colour.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yes ladies and gentlemen of the world Paul is a typical English guy who loves foreigners and then says I'm not rasict I have black friends 😂😂😂😂🎉🎉
It's not our job to fix their nation state...after we directly destabilize theirs, promise to support then, and profit off of the war that broke their nation. You Brits sound just like us Americans. We have so much in common.
These people will twist themselves in knots to explain why any difference between two situations is the reason they support one and not the other.
This is so aptlly demonstrated so so often on this channel... love it, just unfortuate the people exis....
The moment he googled it and saw the story 😂😂😂
he still said "The UN shot them"...OMG
A perfect example of man's inhumanity to man. This country is finished. Ruined by years of Thatcherism.
😂 Comedy gold
😂😂
By this guys logic if we shouldn't support Afghanistan because its 'not against a nation state' then according to Russia, Ukraine isn't a nation state and its just an internal issue.
Or even Palestine. There’s so much western hypocrisy.
Nah. Not the same.
@@db-t3175 why isn’t it the same?
@@lynnevenables7193 it's not an extension of his logic at all.
Afghanistan's situation is internal. We drew lines and started withdrawing years ago. It's horrid. But 40+ countries that made up ISAF said "we've tried and spent enough, we're going now".
The Afghan military and Police for the large part couldn't or wouldn't stand up for democracy or a united Afghanistan. Effectively it's been a coup in Afghanistan, that's been welcomed by many of its electorate.
Ukraine is fighting an external oppressor that has illegally invaded, violating at least two treaties where the USA and the UK amongst others made guarantees to Ukrainian security. Particularly for giving up inherited nuclear weapons since the USSR fell apart. We have a moral obligation to support a sovereign, democratically elected Government fighting for the survival of its people. As I say, the Afghan Government was on borrowed time.
@@db-t3175 I don't understand how its much different. What's external and internal is subjective when you're the one drawing the borders. I don't think you're understanding that its not about leaving Afghanistan its the fact that we intervened so we're responsible for the people who risked their lives to protect OUR troops but we wouldn't help them even though they contribute to our economy and if they helped the military are likely also very skilled.
Not "our" job to invade them either...
It absolutely was. We should do it again but properly this time.
@@kingofracismthat mentality seems to have backfired on the UK. Suddenly colonization is not cool😂
its strange to destroy countries there is money in the UK, but not to fix the problem they have done
If it’s ‘not our job’ why be there in the first place?
Why go to Afghanistan in the first place? Don't go to other countries at all if you don't want people in your country
The UK and US have sadly never been held accountable for their war crimes.
We should commit more
@@kingofracism actually...
Don't. The crazies taking over your Countries is enough. Enjoy.
WE ARE STILL GIVING UKRAINIANS TONS OF MONEY ITS CRAZY
Glad someone can comment on YT. The comment system has gone nuts today. It's suddenly very flaky.
No you’re not. Your country is not spending any money on Ukraine. Is giving expired ammunition and military Tehnic who was bought tens of years ago. From the military budget who would have been spend anyway.
And it’s close to be expired and to be disabled . And to disable them, will cost your country money. So in a weird way the aid to Ukraine might get you save some money for not disable them, then it might get you money in the future when Ukraine will pay you back. Beside Patriot system nothing send to Ukraine had real value on the military market. So no. Get your facts straight.
Why is it that men are not allowed to be refugees, very misandrist of him.
@palerider955 🥱
They can also be targeted precisely because of the that.
@palerider955 the war is over... and not all men were fighting in it either it was 0.748% of the population.
So fleeing a nation that's killing its own people is only okay if that country is at war..? The absolute state of the discourse in this country 🤦🤦🤦
...only when they're not refugees...but chancers who've abandoned their families...😊
@@chatham43 nice fantasy you've made up but 80% of people on the boats are given refugees status.
I agree with Paul that we should stop meddling in other countries, especially as there’s so much hypocrisy but perhaps ask Paul about the increase in opioids exports during the time we occupied Afghanistan.
Clearly you did not learn anything from ww2.
Yes mistakes were maid but to say entirely that is better to mind your own business… is way wrong.
Also don't forget it was the US and their Western allies that practically created the Taliban. It's usually the case, when there's suddenly an influx of refugees, that the West have been meddling in other nations' business. Stop that, then you stop the forced migration.
Callers like Paul anger me.
This clip was amazing!!!!!
Paul is such a bigot. Hate covers his heart he is blinded by his hate for the Afghans people but happy to care for the Ukrainian. Wow
Bless Ben for his valiant defense of humanity and principle.
It's really weird to hear Paul talk about "They didn't resist the Taliban" when they were trained, funded and equipped by the US against the Soviets. Cornwall as a country is almost wholly dependent on EU funding and aid. These are easy facts to research, and yet people willingly lie. It's not our job to interfere- but we did, that's how the Taliban got into power
Lol, I think we know why he really welcomes the Ukrainians!😅😅
Paul doesn’t understand the moment the U.K. stepped foot in Afghanistan it became our problem.
The taliban were never going to be defeated by guns and bullets. We created more of them by the poor job we did for 20 odd years.
Yes Paul it’s our problem. We invading them and left them once we took the oil…
Combat missions did end in 2014 and since was a train, advise and assist mission. The British military actually withdrew in July 2021 and then returned in August for "op pitting" to assist with the evacuation of embassy staff, contractors and roughly 15,000 Afghan civilians. It's true that without American forces NATO countries would never have been able to remain. The only reason violence was fairly low since 2020 was because of the American/Taliban peace talks which part of the agreement was for all US and NATO forces would leave by the April 2021 which was extended to September.. if western forces didn't leave the peace talks would have ended and the war would more likely than not escalated, as Britain had under 1000 troops in Afghanistan would mean redeploying and prolonging an already drawn out war. The whole thing was a mess..
Which proves the point that dialogue with your enemy is and should be the first call. But as Lockheed Martin will tell you, there’s no profit in peace- this is the biggest problem.
4 Times Britain invaded Afghanistan. Why ???? Stop complaining about refugees come to UK.Don't meddle in other coutry's affair.
Glad to hear Paul finally confess where his views really come from...a mindset of bigotry! How is our world populated by such people? On one hand, he says it is not the job of the UK to build another country's nation state. Which begs the question: what then was the purpose of being in there for 20 years?
Poor poor Afghan women. Zero rights.
Sorry Paul, but interfering in other countries is what Britain is built upon
It doesn't take long does it... a few questions and the mask starts to slip...
How many Japanese refugees do we see in the UK?
Now, how many refugees from Afghanistan, Indian, Pakistani, Bengali, Africans, Syrians do we see in the UK?
I wonder why!
Maybe because the west hasn't invaded & destroyed Japan? Just a thought.
‘It’s not our job to build a state’ but then proceeds to say in the same sentence ‘we were there for over 20 years’ people like him are morally finished.
My friend’s sister has recently fostered a boy from Afghanistan. He is 14, he lost his family when the Taliban took them away, he doesn’t know where they are. In Afghanistan he met up with another group of kids who walked for a year to get to England. She says he is the sweetest and politest boy imaginable but he is terrible traumatised and just wants his mum and dad. Luckily there are some people in England who have compassion and want to help but clearly not Paul. 😡
I love to hear a caller schooled by another caller.
Of course we couldn’t stay there once the yanks left. Nevertheless we owed the afghans a duty of care for the assistance they gave.
Great video ben
Poor Paul. He needs psychiatric help, proper medication and an eye. Sight test. Unfortunately there isn’t a cure for ignorance and bigotry
We are under no obligation to value the lives of non whites. I have empathy for Ukraine because they're white European. I don't see the value in black and brown lives so it's a different story when it comes to them
He's seen on TV 📺 tells you all you need to know 😂😂
The same people who talk about mainstream media all the time and then get facts from said media.
It's just about whatever justifies their biases and opinions that have formed into toxic feelings.
The right wing Murdoch press showed mee pics so i beeleaved em 🤪
The scariest thing, regardless of your point of view, is that Paul was unable or unwilling to see the flaws in his own logic and hence looks like a total muppet. Having said that, he is in fact wrong....obvious hypocrisy does not make for a resilient argument
Paul + logic? C'mon, you're kidding!
I used to be from Afghanistan...and Pakistan and India, Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon, Morocco, Syria, Bangladesh...the list goes on.
Used to break their little hearts when I told them I'm Greek 😂
Just a disgusting lack of empathy, at what point do you look in yourself and realize you're a bad person
No its not uk responsibility to take every asylum seeker but since uk has been part of the war monger committee it becomes uk responsibility.
If I remember correctly the Foreign secretary was on holidays at the time of the evacuation and couldn't be bothered to interrupt his vacation.
Wow the open bigotry of this disgusting caller is sickening
Paul is a bigot.
Someone needs to tell Paul that this the third time Britain invaded Afghanistan.
Does Paul know we invaded Afghanistan several times.
Mark tried but another daily mail reader
...you mean he uses long words...😊
No refugees are in Cornwall .. it doesn’t concern him .. he wasn’t in Afghanistan and he wants to throw these guys to the wolfs after they have been used for our purposes ..
Paul sounds really lovely….
@palerider955 Why not?
@palerider955 why not?
@palerider955bit confused by this? Do you mean the callers or the presenters??!
Am guessing around the same age as 30p Anderson and looks very similar.
@palerider955 Why not?
Anyone remember when it was the Afghanis that where the empire makers , looting , robbing, invading and doing all the other empire type stuff. ? No? There's been over 160 empires in history are they held to the same as the British.
I feel like these rows wouldn’t be such an issue if immigration, migration, refugee status / asylum seeking was handled properly by our government.
Genuine refugees should be helped regardless of where they come from, especially those who helped us and sided with us.
People get annoyed because of the lack of control of our own borders with illegal crossings and stuff and tend to muddle it all together - maybe if our government actually handled all of this stuff properly it wouldn’t be such an issue in peoples eyes, but they see a lack of border control and thousands of illegal crossings taking place, which is rightfully going to annoy people for many different reasons.
He sounds just like the American right wing
I look at it this way, if Britain has interfered with any other country then Britain has a moral duty to give sanctuary to people fleeing the result of that interference. As to understand the state will have got more out of the countries it has interfered with than it will cost to give sanctuary to the residue of that interference.