the disappearance of joe halpern | missing from rocky mountain national park
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- in 1933, joe halpern was a brilliant doctoral candidate studying astronomy at the university of chicago. that august, he took a break from work and school to travel out west with his family and a friend to spend some time outdoors. he was doing something he loved--hiking--when he mysteriously disappeared, and created a mystery that three generations of halperns have spent more than 85 years trying to solve.
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The family’s description of Joe sent to Arizona is fascinating. “Is a good chess player”, “usually goes without a hat”. A snapshot of the norms of 1933.
Yes ! I found that interesting too !
@@VioletJoy ok Violet 🙄
Very sad. I had a brother go missing in 1968. Even though we are positive of his death, there is always that hope deep in your heart especially when you have no remains to bury.
Sad. Sorry for your loss 😔
So sorry for your pain and loss.
Can't imagine how difficult it must be. My thoughts are with you and your family.
Sorry to hear that, what's the story behind that if you dont mind me asking
My condolences to you and your family.Prayers up!!!
One thing I have learned from watching these videos is that one should never hike alone. Ever.
or be smart
The odd part of missing persons are people also disappear in groups. Many people have send people at the last in line disappear in groups out hiking never to be found. The just vanished into thin air.
That's not always a guarantee. I'm starting to think that conscious awareness has something to do with it. Whatever these things are can bend this reality we have that potential as well through manifestation we haven't learned it yet to fight back.
I literally hike alone all the time. Granite my dog is always with me , I think that makes a difference
Always pray to Jesus, as to whether or not, you should go on any trip, that you have planned. In the Word of God, it says in Proverbs 27:1, in the English Standard Version: “Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring.”
We all should be as lucky as Joe to have a family & friends with such a strong love for him & who for generations would dedicate themselves to extensively search after all these years since he disappeared.💜
Pretty Princess P P Too many lose their lives living a risky lifestyle. I get that some come from hard circumstances but many have transitioned out of it.
Uh....he's not that lucky....
That he had friends who dearly missed him,
and searched for him for years.
I don't think Joe would have brought a friend hiking with him if he was planning on disappearing voluntarily.
If other person wanted go to missing too 😕
Don't forget that Joe "wasn't ready" to go back... That's y they separated. That could've meant he probably wanted to leave his life behind too.
If I wanted to vanish. I would take someone who would be the one to spread the word of my disappearance.
I agree with your assessment, if you were going to deliberately make your self disappear just to leave your life behind, why bring a friend with you knowing that they would certainly raise the alarm after realizing something is afoot?
@@JosephKulik2016 respectfully, I disagree. Joe was born around 1911, meaning that he was still a young boy when WWI ended. Many people today do not realise what a horrific war that was, with casualties unimaginable in the present time. It was very common for the families of the dead or missing in action never to know where their sons were buried. There were so many whose only knowledge amounted to "somewhere in France." Joe no doubt had knowledge about the pain that the families of the vanished go through.
Additionally, this was the height of the Great Depression (when unemployment rates were even higher than have yet happened in the US during the pandemic so far). Jobs were scarce and prized--academia probably looked pretty darn cushy during that time.
The music you play is VERY emotional. The stories you narrate are more impactful with the drama of the music. In addition, you smartly play it very softly . Thanks for video. Really, really sad.
We did that same trail this past August. Even now, almost a century later, it's not any easy trail for beginners. In the dark he could have fallen off the edge as some of the switchbacks are hard to see in the wooded parts.
it's not too bad but if you proceed past flattop, esp around sunset, you're asking for problems. I've hiked it alone a lot. start just before sunrise, back by 11
@@unprocessed_life shouldn’t do it alone but if you do carry location Beacon stay safe friend 👍🇬🇧
seems like it would be easy to just walk the trail and find someone that fell off the edge. especially now with drones. unless he fell then walked far away and died I think someone would see him
May Joe Halpern Rest In Peace. Such a tragic story
Pretty sure he has been "resting in peace" since 1933. He missed out on a wild ride that the rest of the world has been on for the past 85 years.
NEVER hike alone!
KNOW when it’s time to turn around!
BE prepared: get info on the trail before you go, and take what you may possibly need if your return is delayed.
I would also like to add to Mr. Nichols comment. Include others of your plans and stick to them. If you cannot reach your goal because of what ever reasons, turn back, stay to plan. Do not go a different rout then what was planned.
HearthCricket make sure that there is adequate cell/data service everywhere you go.
I live in Arizona. Beyond the hand-full of cities and major roads, most of Arizona has NO cell service. Can’t even utilize any low bandwidth services such as text. One can easily find themselves 100 miles from any service and still be on an improved (even paved) road. Let alone hiking away from the road.
Regina Lawson Indeed. When I heard her say that, at two in the afternoon, Joe was wanting to keep going instead of turning around, my heart sank.
Where I live, in the Phoenix area, there’s some scenic, rugged, fairly difficult hiking right in the heart of the city. And it’s amazing how often people have to be rescued at night because they started, or turned around, too late in the day. How lucky these rescuees are that they are in the middle of a city with good cell service and rescue only minutes away.
If/when I hike alone: whatever the allotted time period is that day, I turn around before half of that time period has passed. I also turn around when at 1/3 of my water is gone. Not to mention staying on well traveled trails if I’m alone.
Robert Nichols that is scary! Can’t believe that....in the US!! ?
Aileen Bremner yes. There are many places out west that remain incredibly remote. And don’t believe the cell service coverage maps the phone companies put out. They are wildly optimistic.
Thank you for covering obscure cases like this! Love your channel, keep up the great work.
Cowboy Dan Yes! I love this channel for the exact same reason. Love the narration too!
Yes
Do not hike, do not dive, do not climb mountains, do not go boating alone please
Excellent advice, not heeded often enough
Do not live
@@Janellabelle No....just be smart about things you adventure into
My absolute favorite pastime is to go way out alone in my boat, shut it off, and spend the day drifting on the wind and currents with a book in one hand, cold beer in the other. Sometimes I set a towable tube adrift and nap on it, tethered to the boat, of course. Hours will pass without seeing or hearing anyone.
@@lynnen264 I'm sorry if I sounded offensive. It's just I love to go out into nature alone with no one and listen to the wind and the birds and the bugs. Just me and mother earth. I don't feel scared or in danger. I feel at peace...so it would feel like I wasn't truly living to deny myself something so natural to the human race...
As always, exceptionally well researched, and compassionately and sweetly delivered. Great work!
If one of the areas where he might have gone missing in the park was near or around a glacier, it might be worthwhile to return and search now. Many glaciers have shrunken quite a bit, things buried or obscured by ice may be visible now.
Unfortunately glaciers drag a lot of debris with them. Even if the ice and snow melted from the area, a body could easily be buried under rock and mud.
I knew of Joe and his disappearance before watching this video. You've expanded my knowledge of this case and I thank you for your sensitive and respectful exposition. The reports of possible sightings of Joe notwithstanding, I suspect that he simply met with an accident. Almost everyone has at least one Doppelgänger out there somewhere.
I live in the mts.i walk in the forest everyday.i always have my GPS turned on my phone,have a 80# dog with me and carry a whistle and bear spray.been in many mt ranges for 40yrs and thankfully have never seen anything abnormal in the trees,air,woods
Ok this is probably a dumb question: what the heck is bear spay? I mean I'm assuming it's to keep bears at bay, is it a real product? What is it made up of?
Not even Bigfoot ????????
@@vlseaward American deodorant lol seen it on ewu videos must annoy them
well I am glad this came out after my camping trip.
Once again, you blow me away with your writing. I've never heard of this case.
Geez, that's heartbreaking.
This is a very sad story.
As a parent, I couldn't imagine the grief his parents and family felt.
I hope and pray that I never have to go through life after losing a son and to die never knowing what happened to him....
Eventhough it is unlikely that they will ever find out what happened to Him, I pray somehow they do find some closure.
God bless you all, and pray you never know this family's grief and pain!!
Heartbreaking for the family 😢
Yes I know someone who lost her son ina Canadian NP in 2011 - it is deffo a heartbreaking experience !!!!
IAN PAYNE oh, so sorry! I watch all of these mysteries and cannot imagine not knowing where my loved one was 💔
Thank you for being well spoken, straight forward getting right to the story and without the attempt to be a bad comedian. Joe was blessed to have such a caring family.. Sad for the families who never find out what ever became of their missing loved one.
Such devotion in his family.
Omg your voice! For me personally, I don't know how you manage to relax me and hold my attention at the same time. I think your channel is easily one of the best on here and I love the background music. This is such a sad casefile and what a dedicated family, just heartbreaking 💜
3 options:
1. Sam killed him (accidentally or not) and took the secret to the grave.
2. Joe slipped and fell off the edge.
3. Missing 411
411 they like to take smart ones
This is stupid! People do not realize the mistakes of carrying that kind of food into the mountains with you! Bears can smell food especially oranges up to 20 miles!! They will kill! A grizzly can take a grown man's head off in one swipe of his massive paw! Also there are hundreds of people that go missing in the mountains every year many come out alive but too many disappear! City people do not belong in the Rockies or the Sierra's! Heck, I was raised in the Rockies and I won't go without a dog, gun and a bunch of people! And I'm not dumb enough to bring a sack full of food!
Shirley Schork Using your logic, then your point is as stupid as the three mentioned above, what makes you believe he actually could have been ripped by a bear mr. know-it-all?
Lodbrok (woe, mr. Know it all) 🤣
411 For Sure.
I wonder how friendly Joe's and Sam's disagreement was.
I can't believe they didn't have bloodhounds available. They should have ordered them from another area. So disturbing.
They STILL have a hard time getting the dogs out. If he were running from jail he'd be found immediately, but a law abiding citizen going missing on the outside? Not so much...
It's not like you get them from a catalog.
There are so many people who disappear in forests and on hikes that I can't help but feel many of them get injured and hopelessly lost. And they die in these remote hiking areas. In this case I guess its possible Halpern actually wanted to appear lost so he could do something else in his life. Although it doesn't seem his life was so terrible he wanted to leave it behind. But i think a person was be incredibly selfish to disappear as a ruse is very rare. I doubt Halpern would jut tke off & vanish into thin air.
I never understand people who like to go off hiking alone
I don't care how experience someone might be ..it's too easy to just get into a twist and be gone without a trace .it happens to often
I hike In forest alone all The time. Safe, nice and peacefull but of course I do not live In USA. There are Safe beautiful countries left and I live In one of those.
@Blixem Get back to us in a year, baby Blixem. You, too, may be a Missing 411 case.
I go hiking alone often. It's not like I'm exploring Antartica on my own. Know your limitations and the difficulty of the trail and plan accordingly. People disappear just as easily from urban areas.
@Blixem Perhaps Bigfoot just likes observing humans only there for a peaceful life - LOL !!!!
Why do these disappearances seem so often to happen to bright and talented people with so much potential? Thank you for sharing Joe’s story. The heartbreak of his family must be indescribable. Hopefully this case will be one that is solved in the near future.
Perhaps only the "bright and talented people" get the attention.
kryer981 Very good point. 😔
Wow I didn't know what a "postal account" was and so I looked it up. It is a bank account where all transactions take place via mail. This is very similar to online banking today. I wonder if there were any transactions on that account at any time.
Mister Reyth, thanks for looking that up and reporting on it!
Yes, thank you. I didnt catch that, but instead thought it curious that he had to give his fingerprints to open the account. Fascinating, I had no idea.
@@mattkaustickomments ra
I bet thoses wilderness place hold on to many love ones...no one ever finds them.
It's truly frightening how easily someone can vanish out there.
Missing 411...
@@kryer981 Perhaps Mother Nature isn't always maternal !!!!
@@IanP1963 Not always. She can be abusive, too.
@@kryer981 Not abusive - protective of her own !!!!
Another excellent video. Keep it up!
The most likely scenario is normally the right one. Slipped and fell or was lost on the hike.
Alien abduction was not discussed. Seems to be the most likely scenario, given that this is the internet.
A likely scenario is always different to different people - to some it may be more bizaar !!!!!
When someone makes a truth claim they need to show evidence. Mine based on abductions is true because of the times that it has occurred.
Aliens and wild portal story’s are not truth claims.
While I believe in Bigfoot I cannot make a truth claim about Bigfoot until it has been proven. You guys are in the same category unfortunately.
@@lesgraham6602 So you can believe in B/Foot without proving it, but we and others can't believe in our ideas of what it may be ? Is that what you are saying. Load of crap if you ask me !!!!
This was one of the saddest of these stories. It was well told. My heart aches for the parents of all these missing, their loved ones who spend a lifetime hoping to hear something. Certainly, if there is a responsible party, it is pitiless and without a heart, to be unmoved all these years and all these people. Perhaps it looks on them as some people do the animals whose lives they waste, and I am almost afraid to draw the obvious analogy, but there it is.
Question is - who or what is the 'responsible party' ?
I would love to see an episode of people who are found alive long after they are declared missing.
I'm binge watching all these videos as I make candles. I love this channel.
Thank you so very much. Enjoy your episodes very much.
A fall? But nothing of his ever found? Also, my indigenous ancestors talked about portals and how to spot them when they show. Many people have gone missing and nothing found.
“Portals”, magic or fairy tales do not exist.
how do you spot them?
I totally believe portals exist. I've never seen one but based on what other have said / experienced I have no reason to not believe them.
@@ParodyAccount_ you dont know that,. none of us do
@@jediknightjairinaiki560 I totally believe the Tooth Fairy exists, based on how many kids find coins under their pillow after placing their lost tooth there the night before. I have no reason not to believe in them.
I’ve never heard this story, i hope that family finds answers
Terribly sad. I guess the family could hire a drone operator to take imagery of that whole area. maybe the boots or some clothing might still be visible. Thank you for covering these cold cases; it brings a bit of humanity back to these missing people (and awesome narration).
Good suggestion !
Joe lives on in the memories of family, friends and loved ones. No one truly ever dies. ❤️ Even we, who never knew Joe, will keep him alive through our memories of this documentary about a young man named Joe Halperin who lost his way in the Rocky Mountains.
have a great week everyone. enjoy this beautiful autumn while it lasts!!
Thank you! Same to you!
Thank you! Same to you as well! I absolutely love autumn! The best ever.
I agree, i also love Spring! The new leaves and blooms make me so happy! 💐💐💐
Be well!
I plan on enjoying this autumn once my area gets out of temps in the 90s. 😏
What a great family if I went missing my family would look for about a minute then go out to eat and go home. Great video thanks for doing this one.💜
I notice your voice-overs getting better with every upload. Keep it up! Love these.
Thank you for bringing one from 1932. Wow!
This is so sad.
Someone I knew had a cousin that just vanished. She was going somewhere. They found her suitcase just sitting on the floor at the train or bus station, which ever it was, but she was never seen again. Happened in the late 60s.
Hey there 👋👋 👋 HCF, glad you uploaded 🤗.
My gut says he fell.
Too bad he didn't have heavy casefiles. videos back then. He would've known nothing good comes from hiking alone.
Puh-lease. I've hiked alone for over 30 years. It comes down to knowing your physical limitations and paying attention to the trail.
@@zarasbazaar kind of pathetic how many scared commenters tell each other never to hike alone and to bring a gun lmao
I feel so bad for his parents. The family are so awesome, they never gave up on trying to find him. Just so sad 😞
What a sad story, one I don’t recall hearing. I wonder if the nephew has sent his own DNA for testing? If Joe did go off to change his life, perhaps he had children at some point. You never know. Worth a shot.
Thank you for doing these historical mysteries, always fascinating.
He's become the forest. Nothing is wasted.
Bio mass
very bittersweet i can imagine his parents in grief until they died just wondering its been so long its very very unlikely they will ever find anything or remains of him out there
Another well researched and presented piece of work. You have been and remain one of my absolutely favorite sources on UA-cam. Blessed Be......
What is always amazing about these disappearances is that there are often over the years several disappearances and searches in these parks, and it might be expected that in the initial search the remains of someone might be overlooked, but in the many other searches bodies might be found from previous disappearances. I guess people are always looking at the bottom of the glaciers to see what eventually is expelled.
These videos are so interesting! I've just come across your Chanel and loving it . It's so sad families are going through this sort of thing for so long! You are doing a great job reminding people and that may spark a memory with some people and help solve the case! Great video and I'm now binging on them . Thank you for bringing these cases to mind.
I'd say there are two possibilities:
First is that Joe perished in the wilderness by some sort of unfortunate incident, perhaps he fell off a cliff while hiking, or took a wrong turn, and got lost. The second, and I believe more likely scenario in this particular case, is that an unhappy Joe decided to disappear on purpose, and start a new life. This corresponds much better with those letters and what Joe told his friend privately, and the sighting of him reported later on the street begging. Perhaps he meant to reconnect with his family eventually, but maybe died before he could do so, while living the tough existence of being a hobo/transient back in those times.
I feel like you’re more confident with speaking in your videos now. Keep up the good work! You’ve definitely earned a new subscriber here 😊
This popped in to my recommendations - subscribed.
Never explain...your friends don't need it and your enemies will never believe you anyway
I want to go to this park for my birthday listening to this scares me so much I need to do more research about the area now
Be careful. Don't go alone, stay with your group, bring food etc anything.
How tragic and sad the disappearance of such a brilliant young man!; may the good Lord of Heaven grant peace and the ultimate answer to Joe Halpern's relatives: to finally find him and solve the mystery of the vanishing...
God I love your channel.
It's so sad not knowing what happened. RIP Joe. Great video!
Sam killed him.
Thanks for the video! 🏋️♀️🗄🗂 on the way the 100k!
Ty for your time. Your voice is soo soothing.
This was an excellent video, very well put together and presented as your videos always are! Its sad what happened, and upsetting that there are so many cases just like that, but it is sweet to know that his family still has not given up hope for answers, and that its a mission thats been passed down.
Superb presentation!
Have a law enforcement background. You put a cogent presentation together, well spoken and the time and work shows! I wonder if Joe had an idea or a goal but fell into a place nobody could easily aee!
Its horrific having a loved one missing. Chad Wiles 37, went missing here in Waverly, Tennessee Feb 2018 & cops searched bout 4 hours & quit. Said he prolly fell in flood waters. Chad was like a son to me. I have nightmares of floods. We have floods going on rite now & all I can think of is 🙏Where r u Chad🙏
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Marvellous. Thank you
I somehow think that Joe actually intended to start a new life on the road, as he obviously had insinuated to his friend, but who knows ? I just feel so sorry for his parents and family.
Hiking up a mountain late in the day deep in Rocky Mountain National Park is not the best way to start a life as a hobo.
@@GoGreen1977
True, but he might have doubled back somehow. However, after rethinking his case I made another comment above that you may like to read.
There's something out there waiting for us, and it aint no man...…….
Bigfoot...?
Although it seems more likely that he fell into a crevasse and perished in the wilderness it wasn't uncommon at that time for young men to ride the rails seeking work, adventure, and anonymity. The Great Depression created an enormous diaspora of desperately unemployed men and a subsequent sub-culture evolved.
It would have been VERY difficult for anyone to get down the mountain he was hiking to the trailhead at Bear Lake and THEN get down the steep, winding road to any park entrance on the east side, especially in the dark. If he tried to avoid the roads, coming down through the forests and underbrush would be extremely hazardous and would have taken a long time to do so, no matter where he may have tried to exit. It's very rugged wilderness. He's still in RMNP, somewhere.
Joe survived but suffered from amnesia so he went on and called himself Richard penn , a few years later he had a son named Arthur Penn who is the father of the famous actor Sean Penn. There is a striking resemblance between Sean and his grandfather.
Or.... Joe was abducted by aliens and I might be slightly off my rocker.
LOL !
look at Joe's picture and try to tell me he doesn't look like Sean Penn !
Has anyone ever told you that You sound a lot like Winona Ryder?!... just my opinion...lol also I love your channel and the content you make is awesome! ❤🥰
@@markjorges4257 "Sound a lot like", has nothing to do with hair color.
Such a sad, tragic story. If only Joe hadn't decided to go his separate way... I don't think he necessarily wanted to play a prank, he simply overestimated his skill and strength and had an unfortunate accident, most likely in the dark.
No mystery. Mountain lions, Mama bears, falls, freeze. Especially among the unaccomplished hiker/biker.
Thanks HC. Well done. Very disturbing like these unsolved ones always are.💔🤘🍁
I grew up at the base of Rocky Mountain National Park at the bottom of the Big Thompson Canyon. I know the park he went to so well my girl scout troop would go up there twice a year to clean trash. If he fell into the glacier they will never find him. And then there is always the mountain lions, the coyotes, the wolves and the Bears to worry about. Not to mention the fact if he came face-to-face with a ram he would have had his head bashed in. I have a feeling one day they will find one of his bones scattered across the forest or they will find him stuck in a crevice like the story said. I remember them pulling bodies out of the park as a child. And sometimes those bones would be over a hundred years old. It is extremely easy to get lost in Rocky Mountain National Park. And the temperatures drop drastically at night. And as high up as they were an altitude he may have gotten altitude sickness and died. There are so many caves and crevices and just drop-offs all over these mountains there is no telling where he could be. I hope and pray that they do find his body and are able to DNA match it to his family so that they may have some closure.
Sounds as though you know the area and conclude as the Rangers likely did. I wonder about the other thousand or so people who vanished.
I used to go on field trips to the Yerkes Observatory in middle school. It was a beautiful place but has since closed down.
I think 99.9% of the time, wilderness disappearances involve accidents and death. and, as we know, personal sightings are usually as accurate as eye witnesses to crimes so it's unlikely he had amnesia and was on the streets. It's an interesting historical piece, though, and I hope his family does get answers if at all possible.
This sounds like a case for David Paulides.
Joe Halpern's case was covered in David Paulides' first Missing 411 book.
Ye another rip off!
The fact that he was of high intelligence goes with the cases of "Missing 411".
I’d like to see the actual statistics. My guess is that many fewer people go missing in National Parks than almost anywhere else in the country, per capita. This, in spite of the fact that the Parks are NATURALLY dangerous places and many visitors, hunters and outdoorsmen fail to take proper precautions. Yes, Missing 411 is a fraud. Get smarter.
Smokey Bear not interested in spitballs and suppositions. I meant actual statistics.
Marki Faux Really now? Why is he disgraced, and other than an attitude of hurling crap, what proof do you offer that the cases in the 411 books are not true?
Lucy Fer 👍
I’ve never been interested in conspiracy theories. The Missing 411 is just a conspiracy theory. The US has 62 protected areas of national parks. Alaska alone has 8 million acres in national parks. The total area of protected national parks is around 53 million acres. That is a lot of land and when you think about much of the criteria for national parks to be natural beauty, unique terrain etc., it’s no wonder so many people get lost. I don’t think aliens are abducting smart people from national parks or that the Soviets/Russians, Chinese, CIA etc are either or that these people went missing to enter the CIA. It seems more logical to me that incredibly brilliant people find many things very easy but outside academia, they might be less prepared for an evening hike than the 8th grade drop-out living near the park who fishes for his dinner. That’s the most logical explanation to me.
Checked in 💙💪🏾
One does not just wander out of RMNP from deep inside the park. He was already at a very high elevation in the wilderness. To get down off the mountains and then make it through and out of the park in the dark, or even in daylight, AND THEN make it to a major city where he could disappear from family or friends would be quite a feat. I guess he could hitchhike out of the park, once he got down off the mountains, and beyond, but someone still probably would have come forward if they had seen him hitchhiking, especially while still in the park. There aren't that many roads and maybe fewer in the 1930s.
So sad. I've been interested in the subject of people going missing for whatever reason since I was i young man. David Paulides just pushed me more. But I do like the old missing cases like this one.
What's your take on why they go missing, I first came across Paulides in 2014.
@@IanP1963 well, I don't think everything is paranormal related. I've felt that some disappearances may be related to Men, Women and families living off the grid. Stalking and snatching folks into oblivion. The Hills Have Eyes comes to mind...
@@syella5126 Yes I have always wondered that - roughneck communities, etc. Have you noticed how the topic is hardly broached by any of the so called experts on missing people!
@@IanP1963 you're right. It's more newsworthy if you blend it we with the paranormal. From what I know of Paulides he's a big believer in the existence of Bigfoot. Read between some of his theories he sees that as a reason for some of these disappearances. Not all, just some.
@@syella5126 I am a believer in B/Foot - he never says outwardly even though he's written books on B/foot I think. But nobody knows if B/Foot would attack a human anyway, they seem private creatures, I am more scared of humans lol !!!!
#1 reason SAR is called out to rescue folks in RMNP= broken or sprained ankle.
Wear propper boots that support the ankle when you go hiking in the National Parks.
Having thought again about this sad case, could it also be an early "Missing 411" case? The profile fits in many ways - National Park missing case, highly intelligent academic, possible German heritage (German Jewish ?), lost without trace, never found, nothing of his ever found anywhere, weather changes after search starts.....there are most probably more. Regardless of what I said below, this could well fit in with David Paulides criteria, or at least shouldn't be discarded as a possible case.
A brilliant Young man, exactly the type to be targeted for a "Missing 411" case.
What is this missing 411?
@@vlseaward A series of books written by David Paulides on thousands of cases just like this.
.....and German ancestory!
How sad. Think about the difficulties of searching the Rockies back in ‘33. No jeeps, no ATV’s. No GPS. No helicopters. No infrared sensors.
So sad.
💔💔💔 I hope they find him or his remains so the closure will bring the much needed peace
This is such a case of if onlies. If the young men had not separated, if Joe had been a better prepared hiker, if Joe had not waited til dark to begin his decent. Sad all the way around.
there is a whole channel on people who go missing in National parks..not as good as this one i might add
Steve areano Which channel? Rusty West?
@@broseidonrulerofthebrocean8128 yeah..thats it
Love Rusty but doesnt upload much anymore
@@saradance-every8696 I noticed that too
Sad story Great naration as always ❤️✌️
Looks like he had a solid brother. I wish we all did.
Sam could of killed him by accident or on purpose and hid his body! We'll never know though! Sad!