Testing the radical new JTS dead center take down air rifle pellets..

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  • Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
  • Accuracy testing the new JTS airguns dead centre take down pellets.
    they are made in china and share some similarities with the QYS. the design is quite unique and different to anything ive seen before? are they any good or is it all just hype?
    I use the air arms xti50 which has a high spec lothar walther barrel and also use the airmaks katran which uses a CZ barrel. i test in both the magazine and single shot configuration. the results are quite surprising and the longer range performance in light wind has to be seen to be believed.
    ive also just received my new scope the falcon s40i ffp monster. the xti will shortly be getting an overhaul and this new scope might well replace the mighty arken ep5 that i have been using for the last year

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  • @PaulBeCareful
    @PaulBeCareful 17 годин тому +2

    When they first hit the market, they were priced well below JSB and H&N pellets, making them a budget-friendly option. The price likely rose due to their growing popularity. I used to shoot the 18gr .22s in my HW100, and they were incredibly accurate. They’re produced in-house by JTS, not by QYS or any other manufacturer. Great review-really enjoyed it!

  • @Qwcgvv
    @Qwcgvv 19 годин тому +2

    The never-ending search for the perfect pellet,good luck 🎉

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  17 годин тому +1

      It's fun trying them all though...well.. when it goes to plan.

  • @ebikes2xs159
    @ebikes2xs159 21 годину тому +1

    Your thorough testing and dedication are admirable. I've got a little add and could never do what you are doing. When you get done testing pellets no one can say you took any shortcuts, Thanks.

  • @scottkelly379
    @scottkelly379 21 годину тому +4

    Great review Tommy, i only use H N pellets now, mostly barracuda 8s in everything ive got ,i just got fedup with paying premium money for crap results , so now i stick to H N, the quality is much and more consistent 👍

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому +1

      If your barrels like the h&n they are a safe bet mate and their aggressive pricing is brilliant for us.. I still can't beat a decent batch of heavies myself but would love an h&n alternative to them for the long range work.. one day maybe..🤔

  • @warrenbrooks-r2h
    @warrenbrooks-r2h День тому +10

    Personally I wouldn't use anything in my Weihrauch other than H&N FTT. Never had a bad pellet out of all the tins I have ever bought and same price as these. I have in the past bought JSB and found far too many to be damaged, Air Arms are not too bad. But H&N are top quality.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому +1

      Can't argue against that mate. Ftts have been around for years for good reason 😉

    • @dennisreid4428
      @dennisreid4428 19 годин тому +1

      My HW 110 hates them. tried to zero them and they were all over the place. I'll stick with JSB's

    • @warrenbrooks-r2h
      @warrenbrooks-r2h 18 годин тому +1

      @@dennisreid4428 My 99s loves them. I think springers like a harder pellet and pcp's
      a softer lead, also FFT's are shorter and may not like being magazine loaded. But every barrel has its favoured pellet.

    • @dennisreid4428
      @dennisreid4428 18 годин тому

      @@warrenbrooks-r2h When I bought the HW 110 I bought loads of little 25 pellets bags to see what it liked. Saw a video where somebody recommended these pellets,thought I'd give them a go. conclusion,I wasted my money. I'll try them through my 1982 BSA Scorpion springer pistol and see how they do. Yup I started on springers

    • @451greenwood
      @451greenwood 17 годин тому +1

      ⁠@@dennisreid4428 my best mate I go shooting with he has the HW100 and 110 and he doesn’t like them at all,or should I say his HW don’t like them

  • @TJPockets
    @TJPockets День тому +3

    Good shooting Sir. I use a Weirauch HW98S with JSB .22 5.52 mm Exact Jumbo Diablo and they are tack drivers at 25 Metres. I weigh and size every pellet with a 5.52mm Pellet sizer then place them in soft foam holders inside tins. Ime from a farming background and also a UK Veteran so when i am shooting i make sure my pellets are as good as they can be. Every bore of every rifle is different so its a matter of finding the correct ones for your barrel and then purchase as many tins or sleeves as you can with the same batch number. If you wish to achieve the accuracy you expect then you need to weigh and size every pellet first 🙏

  • @richardhartley6777
    @richardhartley6777 День тому +10

    File em in the BIN

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому +2

      Might turn them into fishing weights 😆

  • @SNARFOLA
    @SNARFOLA 15 годин тому

    ALL THIS FROM A COUPLE CUPS OF TEA. Outstanding!!

  • @jonathanhawke2995
    @jonathanhawke2995 День тому +2

    Heyup chap, looks like you've saved me fifteen quid 😁
    Great informative content buddy, cheers, Jon 👍Hawkes eye TV 👍😁😁

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  День тому +1

      Its definitely a surprise how big they come up. Shame as they look well made,have a decent weight variation and well packed so no damaged ones 😞

  • @marshallart113
    @marshallart113 18 годин тому +1

    Thanks m8 you saved me some money.. was going to get a couple of tines to try .. 💯 won't bother now for my air arms

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  17 годин тому +1

      If you fancy some testing for fun/science, I'd definitely suggest trying the Brazilian Rtx and some of the rifle thunders. They were great fun and really good in the wind in my rigs. 😉

    • @marshallart113
      @marshallart113 16 годин тому

      @tillysgunstocks did you do a vid on these?? I must have missed it.. I'll look into those ty 👍

  • @451greenwood
    @451greenwood 17 годин тому

    I use QYS on my BSA 177, just centres 16g on my FX Dreamline .22 and I love them in the .22 but not so much on the 177, that been said I’ve been saying a long time these are just like the QYS in quality and their accuracy with the right barrel , love you’ve reviewed them and you like them, as always cracking show

  • @nickwebb9290
    @nickwebb9290 День тому +1

    A pretty exhaustive test there, you gave them every chance. I certainly wouldn’t waste money buying any more of these Tommy or giving the heavier ones a try. The term ‘buyer beware’ comes to mind

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  22 години тому +1

      Hi nick, yeah very surprising results really. They look on the face of it ,to be well made but just oversized so much they get damaged on loading. There enough vids now to see the barrels I use are all known good ones and all very accurate with consistent pellets. Shame really that there's no batch codes to try others or avoid this batch

    • @nickwebb9290
      @nickwebb9290 14 годин тому

      @@tillysgunstocks
      Thanks for your reply .Yeh, not having batch codes and or dates isn’t good. There are better pellets out there. But a big thanks for highlighting their shortfalls and saving folk some money as they’re not cheap. Safe to say we take your comments and reviews seriously

  • @jp8351
    @jp8351 День тому +1

    I would try them after putting them through a resizer. I got the biggest resizer I could find on ebay as to let the barrel grooves still do their thing. Now super smooth loading and groups are a lot better with my hades.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому

      Definitely need to be careful sizing down the biggest pellets and these are unusually large. Trying to size these down concentrically would probably be almost impossible. One of them wouldn't even fit the head measuring gauge ☹️
      A gentle size down though for a soft jsb can definitely reap rewards in some barrels 100% 😉

  • @cedhome7945
    @cedhome7945 22 години тому +2

    Great to see you shoot so well, most of the airguns I've owned would make the target look like I'd used my browning with 28g of no6 shot 😄 how much does that set up cost ?

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому +1

      I can't possibly answer that 😳🫣 my wife reads the comments 😆😆
      The red xti is about 4k worth. So pretty dear, however... Reality is that I can shoot very similar scores with my near 9 year old s510. 😉

  • @NickSchoonwinkel
    @NickSchoonwinkel 15 годин тому

    I get very good results with the 10.9gr JTS in my AAS400 Classic and in my MPR speed +- 720ft/sec I also lube it with Technical graphite oil to keep the barrel clean. It soften the fouling and it is blown out.

  • @rudigrest4013
    @rudigrest4013 День тому +2

    great review diferent barrels ect well thought out review thank you

  • @sjaakmcd1804
    @sjaakmcd1804 11 годин тому

    Hi Mr Tilly, a better title would have been "A new low in expensive pellet design". The look on your face as you were trying to gently load a pint sized pellet into a half pint barrel was priceless! The general rule(s) that every gun has it's pellet or the pellet choses the gun is busted now, let's call it "Tillys Law"- Some pellets are terrible, whatever their price in any gun.
    I've been testing (RWS) Geco, lead free flatties in my Airacuda Max .177, cheaper than chips and not too shabby for pest control (range tested) but in the field testing with card targets? If you snag a rock with one the ricochet zzzzzzzzzzzzing is embarrassingly terrifying!
    And a compliment and suggestion; So you buy a tin of pellets and test fire them which is what your average airgunner does, you give us straight out of the can findings, bravo on the testing honesty. Could I suggest that you go to a "I'll go and weigh/measure the rest of this can" cut to find out why they are so good/bad after you have done your 20m test to give us a why so good/bad before extending the range.
    If this stuff was easy it would be boring, thank you and keep on doing your thing

  • @colinstevens6837
    @colinstevens6837 21 годину тому +1

    im glad you got some, i have been shooting them a little while now and the heavies are large as well. have you not seen the ones same shape as jsb heavies as well they perform the same plus you can get them a lot cheaper than £15

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  43 хвилини тому

      I'm a little put off mate now tbh. Especially with the lack of batch codes..
      I'll happily accept this is just a bad batch/tin. It happens we all know that ,but how can we avoid this batch or find known good ones🤔

  • @Steve-s1u
    @Steve-s1u День тому +1

    I've been using these for 2-3 weeks in my Redwolf and found them 'ok' - mostly in still conditions. I agree that they are noticeably inconsistent when loading.
    However, I tried a few in my HW44 pistol and it doesn't seem to like them at all - probably due to the lower power and pellets being tight to load.
    Interestingly, the first tin I had was really good. Subsequent tins not so good.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  День тому

      I've never seen such large pellets mate. Since filming I picked a few more larger ones out and rodded them through another couple of barrels. They get really torn up😞
      Shame as they look well made,clean and well packaged. I'd be interested to see chrono results from the pistol...

    • @Steve-s1u
      @Steve-s1u День тому

      @@tillysgunstocks If I get a spare hour this week I'll do that for you.

  • @boristabacsplatt6609
    @boristabacsplatt6609 День тому +6

    The size variation explains this pellets bad performance. Perhaps the Chinese manufacturer is using a worn-out press, or running the machine faster than it was designed for. I use the .22 version in my BSA Hornet and it is OK at short range, but hopeless at 50yards. I'll stick with the Baracuda15's.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому

      Hi mate, have the .22 got batch codes on the tins ? Have you ever measured any?

    • @boristabacsplatt6609
      @boristabacsplatt6609 17 годин тому

      No batch codes as far as I can see. I didn't bother measuring them as i could feel the size was inconsistent as I fed them up the spout. Won't be buying anymore.

  • @three-phase562
    @three-phase562 День тому +1

    Morning TG. Great video, just not the best of results! How are they achieving the longer reduced centre section, is it at the expense of the head or skirt, or is the pellet longer than others overall? Maybe they had 5 different presses going and mixed and matched filling the tins. 😃😃

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  22 години тому

      Hi mate, compared to an exact the mid section is at expense of the skirts flare. They are a little longer overall than a jsb heavy too. They look well formed ,clean and no damaged skirts .weight wise they are good but they're just too large. One would barely fit in the head measure. They are getting deformed on loading and the skirts smeared off the back.
      It's weird there's no batch codes either 🤔

  • @buckshotaaa
    @buckshotaaa 14 годин тому

    It would be interesting if you tried the heavier pellets TG, after much pellet testing my BSA R10 SE .177 definitely prefers the heavier pill.
    I've settled on Bisley Magnums 10.65g which are the most accurate and consistent pellet in my rifle, followed by JSB Heavies @ 10.34g.
    Just my findings.
    An interesting presentation mate, nice one. 👍

  • @paulandrews3785
    @paulandrews3785 14 годин тому

    Thanks for the video Have tested the JTS dead center s still think the JSB 10.3gr are lots better not much in it just got a tin of snowpeak of China 10.3gr but are around 11.2gr need cleaning not tested yet but probably ok for plinking..my guns don't like H&N FFT s
    JSB 177 10.34 £12.50
    A tin win win

  • @airguntrucker
    @airguntrucker 21 годину тому +1

    It would be interesting to see what they do at FAC power levels.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому

      Yep I'm curious too. My best guess at this point is they will get worse. The larger blast of air will almost certainly shred the skirts even more... Not sure.. we'll find out next year when the fac stuff arrives 😉

  • @paulcarruthers1314
    @paulcarruthers1314 День тому +4

    Barracuda 8 much cheaper and are great in my HW100
    I use heavies in my Ghost, Red Wolf and Wolverine R, I’ve given up chasing pellets lol😂

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  День тому +4

      H&N are really picking up a huge amount of new customers of late mate. It's great for the sport and the competition between brands should help push development forward and more aggressive pricing.

    • @paulcarruthers1314
      @paulcarruthers1314 День тому

      @@tillysgunstocks they are a fair bit harder than JSB and suffer less from potential damage

    • @ianyanto123
      @ianyanto123 21 годину тому

      are you using JSB heavies in the red wolf, i shoot the same and on a mission to find the right pellet for it?

    • @paulcarruthers1314
      @paulcarruthers1314 20 годин тому

      @@ianyanto123 I’ve tried several and find them the best. I shoot on an outside range and they are the least wind affected

  • @Woodgate425
    @Woodgate425 18 годин тому

    Very disappointed in those. I use the .22 Dead Center and they have proved to be very good. Great review as always, cheers, Woody.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  17 годин тому

      Hi mate, have your.22 got any batch codes on the tins? I also pulled out the papery disc from the lid of these incase it was hidden,but nothing obvious🤔
      It was a fun test as it kept me on my toes but very disappointed with the results

  • @cliverkay
    @cliverkay 13 годин тому

    Did you try resizing the pellets ?

  • @skylinersi
    @skylinersi 19 годин тому +1

    Tried these 2 or 3 weeks back, TI50, not impressed, random grouping, flyers, may suit other barrels, maybe even the XTI 50 with some stripper adjustment, i even emailed JTS in 3 occasions to ask for the BC, no reply, so that speaks volumes, they either dont know or dont care, either way i wont be likely to buy another of their products!

    • @skylinersi
      @skylinersi 19 годин тому

      *EDIT* XTI50, not TI50 (oops)

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  17 годин тому

      I doubt they'd tighten up with any rig tweeks mate. Them large ones are getting heavily deformed on loading. I'd need a toffee hammer to bash em in the 9015 factory barrel 😆
      You noticed the little ring around the top the heads on some? That looks like the swaging dies used by h&n ,or that style of tooling...they leave a tiny area for the air to escape. Hence the nipples found on some bismags and Barracudas

  • @richardjones2811
    @richardjones2811 13 годин тому

    Don't they offer a head size to buy like Air Arms and JSB do?
    Some of my rifles love a 4.52 and others 4.51.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  2 години тому

      They do a lovely mixed pack mate, one tin contains every size you might need randomly distributed throughout 🫣

  • @roberthowe2910
    @roberthowe2910 День тому +4

    There quality ammo...good in most rifles... apparently jts..got machinery from germany. Had set up a factory in china...cheaper then setting up in usa.....

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  День тому +1

      Interesting you say that, as I've got further through the tin a few of the pellets have similar light ring marks around the heads as you occasionally see on h&n pellets.🤔
      The sizing though is not ideal through this tin

    • @mkaz3997
      @mkaz3997 День тому +2

      Doesnt shoot like quality ammo

    • @roberthowe2910
      @roberthowe2910 День тому

      @@tillysgunstocks with my testing only did 30 yards..so I would.nt no wat 50 yard groups would be..did them in daystate..hw100...s410..s510...ghost...vulcan..vixen....

  • @Nicholas-u7k
    @Nicholas-u7k День тому

    Hi great vid as normal ,who is that pellet gauge made by?

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому

      They're made by field target shop in Lithuania mate. It's my mate audrius who makes them. He makes all my hardware for me too 😀

    • @Nicholas-u7k
      @Nicholas-u7k 21 годину тому +1

      @@tillysgunstocks cheers do you have a link

  • @WCO3
    @WCO3 День тому +1

    They're not living up to the youtube Hype. No thank you. I'll take fifteen hundred econ 2s please 😂

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому +1

      Best budget pellets ever made mate.wise choice 😉

  • @anth1655
    @anth1655 День тому

    💯

  • @markhomer5704
    @markhomer5704 16 годин тому

    Those cuts in the pellets are far too deep, I recon its affecting the stability of the pellet whilst spinning, try " sizing " them down, preferably in increments, apart from that, I was expecting excellence straight out the tin, fantastic testing, there's 1000's relying on you with this one, don't mind paying £17 a tin, even if it means doing a little alteration ( sizing ) to get top notch accuracy.. I know you shouldn't have to do it, but if used for competition it would be worth it...

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  45 хвилин тому

      I'll do a vid in the future mate about sizing. I'll keep some of these for the vid as trying to size these down even incrementally is alot harder to do whilst maintaining concentricity. The rim of the head will vary hugely between them(once sized) on account of the massive variation of starting sizes . That can often cause bigger FPS spreads than is ideal. I'll go through it when I get chance but the key thing is always to start with the most consistent batches and then work them Into something useful.😀

  • @l.i.archer5379
    @l.i.archer5379 21 годину тому +1

    What does "2 Syds" mean on your target paper?? LOLOLOL

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому

      Pmsl... Don't forget I'm a cackhanded lefty.. I shoot right handed though... 25yds🫣

    • @l.i.archer5379
      @l.i.archer5379 20 годин тому

      @@tillysgunstocks I know. I was just funnin' with you. Although, come to think of it, it would be cool to start measuring airgun shooting distances in 'Syds'. One Syd would be 10 yards, 2 Syds - 20 yards, etc. etc. etc...
      "Say, how far away was that varmint?"
      "Ohh, about 3 Syds."
      Hahahaaaaa

  • @jeremyrorich1902
    @jeremyrorich1902 День тому +1

    Wow, what a waste of time and money, was going to try them, decided I would stay with JSB/H&N

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому

      I can't disagree after trying these mate. If youve not tried the Brazilian pellets yet they were great fun and they (in my barrels atleast) were mega in the wind.😉

  • @Roadsterboy500
    @Roadsterboy500 День тому

    Thsts really disappointing. I've been using the. 22 for over a year and had really fantastic results in both my .22 rifles. I was waiting to see the .177s become available, but this has inspired me to look elsewhere.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому

      Have you measured any by chance mate of the .22? Do the .22 have batch codes on them?

  • @eoinwestman6222
    @eoinwestman6222 22 години тому

    Wow those rifling groves were very heavy. Not great pellets.

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому +1

      I've done enough vids now with those barrels we can all see they are known good barrels and all very accurate in their own rights eh. I don't think I've ever seen such a broad spread in size.. ever 🤔

    • @eoinwestman6222
      @eoinwestman6222 19 годин тому

      @@tillysgunstocks shocking really. For that price range too.

  • @biketech60
    @biketech60 16 годин тому

    Once again , price is not a determining factor of quality .

  • @yalieangami6233
    @yalieangami6233 23 години тому +1

    A😘💕👍👍

  • @GrahamHenderson25x
    @GrahamHenderson25x День тому +5

    expensive junk !!! 😅

    • @tillysgunstocks
      @tillysgunstocks  21 годину тому +1

      Yeah you lot all best watch the video twice now to replenish the channel budget after these ones 😆😆
      Gotta say though, I was very disappointed. Especially at the price point ☹️

  • @johnvanberrgem286
    @johnvanberrgem286 18 годин тому +1

    Looks like expensive rubbish.