Been a Glock guy for decades. I have many. Tricked out as far as you can. I’ve tried every trigger. Overwatch. JG. Etc. It’s by far the best out of the box trigger. The sheer geometry of Glock triggers can’t beat it. Pdp pro with a ZR 15 lb spring is unbeatable in the striker fire market. Is what it is. I live Glock but they collect dust in the safe. 😢I can’t help but grasp the pdp pro first.
I became a Walther fan after my recent purchase of the Q4 SF optics ready for $899! My goodness it’s an excellent firearm!! Thinking of building my Walther collection with this next
It is. Americans will still buy glocks instead of Walthers or HK's though, or Sigs for modularity instead of the cheaper and more reliable Beretta APX.
Only issue with this gun is lack of distribution. Finding OEM parts is a headache and Walther arms is usually out of stock on some parts and usually you are told to contact some guy named Earl.
I have the PDP Pro Compact and love it! I added a Holsun SCS PDP specific red dot with matching serrations that doesn’t need a plate to attach. Best grip and trigger on any pistol that I’ve owned over the last 30 years.
@@9770GDoesn't matter to me that he OVERPAID for this gun. All day this can be found for under $800. I paid $729 in FDE FS PDP PRO SD. Nothing I own or have shot touches it and that is quite a few pistols over the years (at my price point)
I agree the new m&p triggers are not bad at all but they are definitely not as nice as this trigger still. Imo the only striker fire trigger thats better is the canik rival s. The spec series is definitely a close contender to the pdp pro sd tho for the $
Gonna have to say nope. I picked up a CZ -10f optic ready and threaded for $400. Compact configuration is the same price. Add in any after market trigger of your choice, and it’s still much cheaper. Mags are cheaper too.
@@FxuckSoyboyspiesgoogle I mean the trigger isn't as good, stippling, controls, ergos, serrations, optics system, size options.. you're giving up a lot with the p10. I got rid of mine a while ago for greener pastures. I don't care how much it costs, I care about features and performance
Amazing pistol. I use mine as a bedside pistol and shoot USPSA/IDPA with it. It shoots better than I do, and it’s 100% reliable. Definitely my favorite striker-fired pistol at its price point.
Its a hell of a firearm for the price. Picked mine up for 600$ with a mail in rebate for 100 rounds of hollow points. Is the nicest striker fire pistol in its price range imo. Put about 1000 rounds threw it soo far no malfunctions whatsoever. The trigger is the nicest striker fire trigger besides the canik rival s trigger imo.
I think the answer is all three! But honestly, the canik has an almost identical trigger with a lot of accessories for a very reasonable price. Walther is top of the heap. MP is also great, especially with that new comp trigger but will run you closer to a grand. Being honest, if price is an issue, Canik is the winner. If you can swing it, get the walther. Get all 3 if you are a baller. You honestly can't go wrong with any of them, they are all very solid pistols
@@greengoose3956 This is why I'm having such a hard time deciding! LoL. But I am leaning towards the Canik. That thing just looks badass.. And you cant beat Canik when it comes to what they provide you accessory wise
I love the PDPs. But I will say two things. For a gun that's supposed to be high quality like a Walther, it has a lot of slide to frame rattle and I was surprised by that. Also if you do a press check, a lot of times it needs a little bump to go back into battery. Other than that, great pistols. Issued a full-size 4.5" with TLR-7A and a Holosun ESP with the PDT trigger. And EDC a PDP-F 4.5" with the same light and optic, standard trigger.
I run this exact same gun for IDPA matches w a 507 Comp. A Sprinco recoil system ($90) and a brass back strap ($80) reduces a lot of the muzzle flip. (Zero malfunctions w 2k+ rounds. Agree with all you said about the trigger. Great review, thank you!
@@stanthebamafan I am not sure that is right. There is a weight limit on the pistol but no rule against the brass backstrap. I don't see a rule about the springco recoil system either. Here are the rules www.idpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Equipment-Division-Appendix-Master.pdf
@@stanthebamafan I didn’t know about the recoil system rule. Thanks for the heads up. That being said, I never had issues in any match. I’ll get informed about it for a sanctioned match coming up in May.
I read the main rule book and appendix A7 for CO. Nothing mentioned about recoil systems. But adding weight with no function just for the weight is mentioned in the main rule book.
Bore axis has very little impact recoil impulse and return to zero. Does having a nice trigger make up for the PDP delivering one of the worst shooting experiences among modern pistol designs?
These days all these mallninja tactitard types think every carry pistol should have a 2# or 3# trigger to make up for the fact they can't shoot. That's way too light for a carry gun that should never go below 4# - 5# bare minimum.
The PDP Pro SD was my first Walther. I wanted something larger than my p365 for off body carry and this thing had everything I wanted out of the box. The trigger is insanely good and was what sold me on it. Paired with the Holosun SCS PDP, just made for an excellent pistol for my needs. Since I was used to shooting my p365, I didnt have issues with the PDP. It is such a comfortable pistol to shoot. Just hate how the thread protector loosens so easily. Even when holstered, reminds me to look into it actually lol. Other than that, no complaints.
I have a PDP Compact and love it. Because I carry the Compact I like the trigger better then the Pro trigger because it is a little heavier but still a great trigger.
I got bought the two tone grey and black compact Walther PDP Pro SD at my local gunshop. I went installed the Aimpoint Acro with forward control design plate. The gun is awesome. The trigger is nice.
Got a PPQ way back and the DPT before the PDP was released. Didn't install the competition springs (DPT manual indicates it's not drop safe with the competition springs ) only the Metal Flat Trigger Shoe. Got the PDP-F 3.5" later and swapped the barrel with the spare 4". Walther, Karl Calther
Yeah i have the PDP 5" full size with a 507c and x300. Got a sweet Dara level 2 holster for it. Love it so much im gonna grab one of these, probably 4" compact
I also EDC the Pro Compact with the Holosun EPS and absolutely dig it! Great package and best stock striker fired trigger I’ve ever shot. Considered swapping dots for the Holosun SCS for the lower profile but really prefer the enclosed emitter.
I've been running a PPQ since they came to the U.S. back in...2011(?) and there's one thing you can say for Walther's current handguns - they make shooting easy. I've had three other people go out and buy a PPQ after shooting mine. I only recently shot my buddy's pair of PDP's and they're definitely a step up (though they "feel" chunky). The PPQ trigger is slightly better, but that's likely due to the extensive amount of rounds I have through mine. For a really squared away shooter, I don't know that the PDP brings anything "new", but it's noticeable when I have new shooters how much easier they shoot the PDP/PPQ than similar other handguns. (Glocks, M&Ps, etc.). Only thing my PPQ hates is steel cased ammo - I believe this is possibly to do with Walther using stepped barrels in many of their handguns (my PPS M2 doesn't like it either). Out of 900 rounds of Brown Bear I ran many moons ago, I had 25-30 malfunctions. It's on the short list of guns I do recommend to new shooters. I don't think you'd get much out of selling off a Glock, M&P, etc. to buy one if you own/shoot them...but Walther makes a hell of a handgun.
Thanks for another great review! Besides the trigger, I really like Walther's slide release profile, long but with a very low profile. Easy to hit and no snagging.
I EDC a compact and I have never felt more confident in my skills with a handgun then with one of these I don’t know what wizardry Walther put into this gun but it works and if you don’t have one you’re missing out.
My biggest gripe with the PDP is how thick it is. I think they did that to match the width of most red dots but they could’ve continued the profile around the chamber down the rest of the slide, like an FN 509.
That shouldn't be a concern unless you're trying to conceal carry it - but I agree. While not heavier than my PPQ, the PDP is "chonky". Not noticeable while shooting it or anything, but it does seem needlessly thick.
My only complaint: My thread protector constantly works loose, within 1 magazine. The shoulder on the barrel is minimal and won’t hold a o-ring in place. Perhaps a different thread protector would hold a o-ring better. Others wise it’s a great gun.
@@stormp8337 I see it as a design flaw. You shouldn’t have to loctite it on when you will be taking it on and off frequently with and without suppresser use. Other manufacturers have figured this out. PSA and silencerco as examples.
Just purchased mine from a pawn shop for $629. Mine came with an optic plate, so i’m very fortunate. I put 100 rds through it in succession from 7, 15, and 21m respectively. My opinion?? I used a Stacato (sp?) that I rented from the range and the Walther was “similar” in performance. “Similar” being generic terminology. I love this pistol! For something less expensive I would recommend the Stoeger ST-9. $250, 13+1…big wide double stack..so fun!
How does it conceal? I’m debating between the pdp pro compact or the pdp F for inside the waistband appendix carry. I know the F will conceal the best but wondering if the benefits of the pro are worth the extra size. I’m 6’3
Great video. Thank you. It is a gun that I am seriously considering. I'm a trigger snob, and many reviewers have mentioned how nice the trigger is. Again, thanks.
Have you introduced your wife to Walther's PDP-F series. They do a a 3 1/2 and a 4" model. This pistol is for people with smaller hands. The F is for female.
Hi MrGun, are you able or willing to review the Primary Arms SLx RS-10 1x23mm Mini Reflex Sight - 3 MOA Dot ? I'm very curious about this products. Primary arms do make good stuff, but I'm new to the red dot movement. Im trying to buy my first one dot for the G19 gen5 MOS or the P320 compact.
Anybody that knows a guntuber knows the Companies that sent you a free gun will watch the video and approve it before you post , even though it's already most likely going to be positive after receiving anything for "free" if you want to continue a relationship with them , getting paid on top of it , if it was a bad review they would say adios to you----Facts!
Walther absolute best handguns. They have been since they were H*k still. Then they split off and became Walther and two different companies and Walther makes high-quality reliable and definitely my favorite looking
the optic plates being more available and metal sights being standard...are fair complaints on the gun. the slide cuts on the pdp really would be a plus if youre dealing with adverse weather conditions vs a glock...not a plus on carry gun
Mike, thank you for your great content, and reputable take on products. However, I’m quitting this video early and heading over to mug club… after dropping a 👍🏼.
AAC 124g from Palmetto will run a comp with the factory spring out of the box with the PDP. Not sure if that would help with a suprressor. I do not know what they added to their ten herbs and spices but it was pretty hot stuff.
05:30 Bro, are you making this video in your sauna, or did you take too much preworkout this morning? I haven't seen hands that sweaty since I was barhopping in Thailand =D
If anyone is concerned about the recoil. Throw the springco recoil management rod in it and you’ll notice a difference. I also have an X300 light underneath and those two things together make it a dream to shoot, although I liked it from the beginning.
I have this in the Compact version. I put on some Trijicon sights, Holosun SCS PDP and a ZR Tactical Stainless Steel GUide Rod with 15lb spring, and Herrington Arms Compensator. Love this gun, shoots great and very accurate. One thing I learned is do not shoot my Glock 47 after shooting this one.
It’s hard not to like this gun. I’ve owned the compact pro for 10 months or so and after 1500 rounds or so with a mixed bag of ammo I’ve had zero malfunctions. The trigger is phenomenal for a striker fired gun.
Really liked the PPQ due to the paddle mag release. In the end I moved away from it. Gave the PDP a try and really wanted to like it, but the beaver tail section is just way too wide for my hand. The PDP seems to be a great option though.
I love to shoot my PDP 5" compact. Yeah, it has a little muzzle rise as the slide cycles, but the design of the pistol brings it right back on target as the slide finishes cycling. Also, love the backward compatibility that the compact has with the PPQ M2 mags.
Man Walthers are my favorite guns. I carry a PPS M2 and I want to get a PDP for a training rig but I just wish there were more holster choices available for them.
PPS 1 &2 was probably the best subcompact on the market for a long time. The trigger could be better but it’s good for a striker, and much better than a Glock, lcp, or shield.
@@FxuckSoyboyspiesgoogleI expect Walther will release a new 1.5/2.0 stacked CCW gun in the next 18 months (that's their cycle, generally). The PPS M2 is the best shooting micro 9mm I've carried/fired...but it's definitely hamstrung with low single-stack capacity. I find myself carrying it more often simply because I shoot is vastly better than my other alternatives. The 7+1 hurts though (that's with Magguts in the basic 6-rounder).
love Walther....picked up a Q5 steel frame, changed the trigger to the one here, and sprinco springs. Slick as butter. Walther makes an exceptional firearm.
FN509 tac #1, crazy you are advertising the sat phone, I use one for work and just now been looking at getting one for myself. Need it for backcountry dirtbike rides I do.
I have the 5in with the compact grip and the normal trigger, personally I dont feel the snappiness alot of people mention. The only thing about it I may change is the upgrade to the pro trigger, but its not a priority as I personally dont mind the standard trigger. Personally I believe for an edc/ duty style firearm the pdp takes the cake over most any other option for the money. Fantastic pistol forsure
Does the suppressor help with the recoil? I shoot the gun well but, just has a strange recoil impulse compared to all the Glocks I own. And does it get better the more rounds you shoot through it?
My wife and I each got one, Mike. We normally shoot Glocks and she shoots a CZ for competitions. I am 6’1, 250 bodybuilder. You aren’t kidding about how snappy this pistol is. It feels fantastic in the hand and I love the trigger, but the damn thing jumps when I shoot it. My wife was surprised and disappointed as well. We are going to sell these brand new guns.
@@Mrgunsngear - Yeah, man, I love your videos. I learn a lot from you. Just letting you know what we were thinking. I love this gun, other than that muzzle flip.
The guy that WON and the only successful person to handle shooting the T-Rex .577 cal rifle was a 5' 7" - 5' 8" guy that was probably about 175 - 185#.
Have bought two of these because I liked it so much. Compact then the full size. Carry in A PHlster Pro which is excellent (no surprise). Tenicor Velo 4 is also an outstanding option. I have and had a number of striker guns and this is easily my favorite. From my experience this gun and the VP9 are easily the most accurate striker guns I’ve shot no question.
Every time I see that gigantic optic it reminds me of a mailbox. I’m sure that giant glass window is nice but wow it really jacks up the aesthetic of what’s a great looking firearm.
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Been a Glock guy for decades. I have many. Tricked out as far as you can. I’ve tried every trigger. Overwatch. JG. Etc. It’s by far the best out of the box trigger. The sheer geometry of Glock triggers can’t beat it. Pdp pro with a ZR 15 lb spring is unbeatable in the striker fire market. Is what it is. I live Glock but they collect dust in the safe. 😢I can’t help but grasp the pdp pro first.
thanks for the report
Best striker fired trigger I’ve ever shot. It’s nuts.
it's nice for sure
Simply beautiful piece with a stupid perfect trigger! Just amazing!
As a Texan, I love seeing your tshirt. Thanks for the support.
Something is going on with Walther. I heard that the Pennsylvania State Police just started issuing PDP's.
I became a Walther fan after my recent purchase of the Q4 SF optics ready for $899! My goodness it’s an excellent firearm!! Thinking of building my Walther collection with this next
great choice
It is a superior firearm. Great feel, great trigger, great mag release. Perhaps the best feeling grip of any handgun.
hard to argue there
It is. Americans will still buy glocks instead of Walthers or HK's though, or Sigs for modularity instead of the cheaper and more reliable Beretta APX.
Only issue with this gun is lack of distribution. Finding OEM parts is a headache and Walther arms is usually out of stock on some parts and usually you are told to contact some guy named Earl.
I have the PDP Pro Compact and love it! I added a Holsun SCS PDP specific red dot with matching serrations that doesn’t need a plate to attach. Best grip and trigger on any pistol that I’ve owned over the last 30 years.
thanks for the report
I ended up getting the SCS PDP and as my first pistol optic, made the transition super easy.
@@Mrgunsngearthe apex trigger makes it even faster and better
In Illinois this gun is not legal
Have you shot an M2.0? Seriously asking because for my liking that grip is awesome.
Very consistent ejection pattern. I wish Walther would just add a set of steel sights from the factory.
Why? They're great and don't break and fall out like glock
fair enough
To date at this price point I have found NONE BETTER! The PRO SD is a beast that just performs! I paid $729 for my Full Size in FDE.
Oh stop
@@DinoNucci$tell me what out performs this at the $700ish price point that doesn't need a ton of upgrades?
@@Optimization_Coach$700? This a $1k handgun in case u missed the title.
@@9770Git's $700 - 800. It retails for a little over $800 MSRP.
@@9770GDoesn't matter to me that he OVERPAID for this gun. All day this can be found for under $800. I paid $729 in FDE FS PDP PRO SD. Nothing I own or have shot touches it and that is quite a few pistols over the years (at my price point)
Thats actually awesome. I usually don't love the look of Walther, but I'd own that no hesitation
thanks for the report
The new M&Ps with the updated trigger shoe really get there too. Even throwing in an Apex trigger you get an amazing platform under 800 bucks.
I agree the new m&p trigger is nice, but not as good as this one.
@@jarrodkav Absolutely but I generally prefer the recoil impulse on the M&Ps and mags are cheaper. Can’t go wrong with either.
the new Spec series is a contender for sure
@@TheRancor53 you are not wrong there my friend
I agree the new m&p triggers are not bad at all but they are definitely not as nice as this trigger still. Imo the only striker fire trigger thats better is the canik rival s. The spec series is definitely a close contender to the pdp pro sd tho for the $
The PDP is the best polymer handgun hands down. Especially if you're talking stock guns
That satellite phone with solar panel is actually kinda cool
thanks for the report
Gonna have to say nope. I picked up a CZ -10f optic ready and threaded for $400. Compact configuration is the same price. Add in any after market trigger of your choice, and it’s still much cheaper.
Mags are cheaper too.
@@FxuckSoyboyspiesgoogle I mean the trigger isn't as good, stippling, controls, ergos, serrations, optics system, size options.. you're giving up a lot with the p10. I got rid of mine a while ago for greener pastures. I don't care how much it costs, I care about features and performance
Amazing pistol. I use mine as a bedside pistol and shoot USPSA/IDPA with it. It shoots better than I do, and it’s 100% reliable. Definitely my favorite striker-fired pistol at its price point.
Its a hell of a firearm for the price. Picked mine up for 600$ with a mail in rebate for 100 rounds of hollow points. Is the nicest striker fire pistol in its price range imo. Put about 1000 rounds threw it soo far no malfunctions whatsoever. The trigger is the nicest striker fire trigger besides the canik rival s trigger imo.
What was the impulse difference between the 115 grain and 147 gain ammo? Great video - Thanks!
illegal in WA because of the threaded barrel 🤡
Indeed
I have the PDP and the PDP-F. I totally want to get the PRO!!! It's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!
I'm torn between the PDP, Canik Rival, and M&P Spec/Comp.. Which one! 😫
I think the answer is all three! But honestly, the canik has an almost identical trigger with a lot of accessories for a very reasonable price. Walther is top of the heap. MP is also great, especially with that new comp trigger but will run you closer to a grand. Being honest, if price is an issue, Canik is the winner. If you can swing it, get the walther. Get all 3 if you are a baller. You honestly can't go wrong with any of them, they are all very solid pistols
@@greengoose3956 This is why I'm having such a hard time deciding! LoL. But I am leaning towards the Canik. That thing just looks badass.. And you cant beat Canik when it comes to what they provide you accessory wise
They honered the return policy on mine. I did not like it at all
I love the PDPs. But I will say two things. For a gun that's supposed to be high quality like a Walther, it has a lot of slide to frame rattle and I was surprised by that. Also if you do a press check, a lot of times it needs a little bump to go back into battery. Other than that, great pistols. Issued a full-size 4.5" with TLR-7A and a Holosun ESP with the PDT trigger. And EDC a PDP-F 4.5" with the same light and optic, standard trigger.
I run this exact same gun for IDPA matches w a 507 Comp. A Sprinco recoil system ($90) and a brass back strap ($80) reduces a lot of the muzzle flip. (Zero malfunctions w 2k+ rounds. Agree with all you said about the trigger. Great review, thank you!
Sprinco recoil systems and brass backstraps are not allowed in IDPA for carry optics lol
@@stanthebamafan I am not sure that is right. There is a weight limit on the pistol but no rule against the brass backstrap. I don't see a rule about the springco recoil system either. Here are the rules www.idpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Equipment-Division-Appendix-Master.pdf
@@stanthebamafan I didn’t know about the recoil system rule. Thanks for the heads up. That being said, I never had issues in any match. I’ll get informed about it for a sanctioned match coming up in May.
You guys may want to check the IDPA rule book. I’m studying the 2024 edition for my SO test and did not see anything that would prohibit those items.
I read the main rule book and appendix A7 for CO. Nothing mentioned about recoil systems. But adding weight with no function just for the weight is mentioned in the main rule book.
Bore axis has very little impact recoil impulse and return to zero. Does having a nice trigger make up for the PDP delivering one of the worst shooting experiences among modern pistol designs?
These days all these mallninja tactitard types think every carry pistol should have a 2# or 3# trigger to make up for the fact they can't shoot. That's way too light for a carry gun that should never go below 4# - 5# bare minimum.
The PDP Pro SD was my first Walther. I wanted something larger than my p365 for off body carry and this thing had everything I wanted out of the box. The trigger is insanely good and was what sold me on it. Paired with the Holosun SCS PDP, just made for an excellent pistol for my needs.
Since I was used to shooting my p365, I didnt have issues with the PDP. It is such a comfortable pistol to shoot.
Just hate how the thread protector loosens so easily. Even when holstered, reminds me to look into it actually lol. Other than that, no complaints.
Put a small strip of teflon plumbers tape on the threads. It will keep it tight but still easy to remove for maintenance.
I have a PDP Compact and love it. Because I carry the Compact I like the trigger better then the Pro trigger because it is a little heavier but still a great trigger.
I got bought the two tone grey and black compact Walther PDP Pro SD at my local gunshop. I went installed the Aimpoint Acro with forward control design plate. The gun is awesome. The trigger is nice.
Got a PPQ way back and the DPT before the PDP was released.
Didn't install the competition springs (DPT manual indicates it's not drop safe with the competition springs ) only the Metal Flat Trigger Shoe.
Got the PDP-F 3.5" later and swapped the barrel with the spare 4".
Walther, Karl Calther
Yeah i have the PDP 5" full size with a 507c and x300. Got a sweet Dara level 2 holster for it. Love it so much im gonna grab one of these, probably 4" compact
Do you run that holster for competition or just daily carry?
I have 2 pdp. Love them. But they are chunky as far ccw
Suppressed pistols are cool, but a pain with holster compatibility and reliability
For sure,what is the disconnect with companies and us end users regarding that?
I also EDC the Pro Compact with the Holosun EPS and absolutely dig it! Great package and best stock striker fired trigger I’ve ever shot. Considered swapping dots for the Holosun SCS for the lower profile but really prefer the enclosed emitter.
I've been running a PPQ since they came to the U.S. back in...2011(?) and there's one thing you can say for Walther's current handguns - they make shooting easy. I've had three other people go out and buy a PPQ after shooting mine. I only recently shot my buddy's pair of PDP's and they're definitely a step up (though they "feel" chunky). The PPQ trigger is slightly better, but that's likely due to the extensive amount of rounds I have through mine.
For a really squared away shooter, I don't know that the PDP brings anything "new", but it's noticeable when I have new shooters how much easier they shoot the PDP/PPQ than similar other handguns. (Glocks, M&Ps, etc.).
Only thing my PPQ hates is steel cased ammo - I believe this is possibly to do with Walther using stepped barrels in many of their handguns (my PPS M2 doesn't like it either). Out of 900 rounds of Brown Bear I ran many moons ago, I had 25-30 malfunctions.
It's on the short list of guns I do recommend to new shooters. I don't think you'd get much out of selling off a Glock, M&P, etc. to buy one if you own/shoot them...but Walther makes a hell of a handgun.
Thanks for another great review! Besides the trigger, I really like Walther's slide release profile, long but with a very low profile. Easy to hit and no snagging.
i have the PDQ in .45 and PDP in 9mm never had any issues and fits my hand like a glove. Best trigger on any striker fired I know of.
I EDC a compact and I have never felt more confident in my skills with a handgun then with one of these I don’t know what wizardry Walther put into this gun but it works and if you don’t have one you’re missing out.
Where is the Texas shirt on your website? Thank you
$80 magazine makes HK blush 😳
they really that proud of them?
I just shared them last week on my socials for $34
I usually get them under $40. The OEM is Mec Gar, and the price is pretty consistent with all the other gun companies that use Mec Gar magazines.
I've seen Walther mags for PPQ/PDP all over the place for $35-45. Not sure where the $80 comes in?
But those ungodly serrations
Have this in a compact gray, one of my absolute favorites and is my current edc!
I should have become a gun tuber. $$$$$$$$$
Another great review. You're review of the APX A1 sold me and now im all in on that system.
What suppressor height sights are you running on this?
My biggest gripe with the PDP is how thick it is. I think they did that to match the width of most red dots but they could’ve continued the profile around the chamber down the rest of the slide, like an FN 509.
That shouldn't be a concern unless you're trying to conceal carry it - but I agree. While not heavier than my PPQ, the PDP is "chonky". Not noticeable while shooting it or anything, but it does seem needlessly thick.
It maybe great as a duty pistol. But no way as a conceal and carry. Way too big. The compact may be the way to go.
Indeed
Id love to see this up against the canik rival and springfield echelon!
Really like the Killswitch Engage type intro music
Just ordered mine. Hadn't even seen the review until today.
Thoughts on the steel frame as compared to this model looking forward to this review.
we shall see
My only complaint: My thread protector constantly works loose, within 1 magazine. The shoulder on the barrel is minimal and won’t hold a o-ring in place. Perhaps a different thread protector would hold a o-ring better. Others wise it’s a great gun.
Blue Look tight bro😊
@@stormp8337 I see it as a design flaw. You shouldn’t have to loctite it on when you will be taking it on and off frequently with and without suppresser use. Other manufacturers have figured this out. PSA and silencerco as examples.
Rugged recommends Teflon tape to reduce suppressor walk off. Should work here too.
I put the O ring inside the thread protector.
Walther PDP vs Springfield Echelon?
don't have an echelon
Hunt Fish Shoot has a PDP vs Echelon video
Just purchased mine from a pawn shop for $629. Mine came with an optic plate, so i’m very fortunate. I put 100 rds through it in succession from 7, 15, and 21m respectively. My opinion?? I used a Stacato (sp?) that I rented from the range and the Walther was “similar” in performance. “Similar” being generic terminology. I love this pistol! For something less expensive I would recommend the Stoeger ST-9. $250, 13+1…big wide double stack..so fun!
How does it conceal? I’m debating between the pdp pro compact or the pdp F for inside the waistband appendix carry. I know the F will conceal the best but wondering if the benefits of the pro are worth the extra size. I’m 6’3
Great video. Thank you. It is a gun that I am seriously considering. I'm a trigger snob, and many reviewers have mentioned how nice the trigger is. Again, thanks.
Have you introduced your wife to Walther's PDP-F series. They do a a 3 1/2 and a 4" model. This pistol is for people with smaller hands. The F is for female.
Hi MrGun, are you able or willing to review the Primary Arms SLx RS-10 1x23mm Mini Reflex Sight - 3 MOA Dot ? I'm very curious about this products. Primary arms do make good stuff, but I'm new to the red dot movement. Im trying to buy my first one dot for the G19 gen5 MOS or the P320 compact.
What is a limp-wrist malfunction?
Failure to feed or extract induced by a weak grip on the pistol.
I have the walther we have at home aka canik 😂
Ditto
Anybody that knows a guntuber knows the Companies that sent you a free gun will watch the video and approve it before you post , even though it's already most likely going to be positive after receiving anything for "free" if you want to continue a relationship with them , getting paid on top of it , if it was a bad review they would say adios to you----Facts!
Walther absolute best handguns. They have been since they were H*k still. Then they split off and became Walther and two different companies and Walther makes high-quality reliable and definitely my favorite looking
Looks like a great gun. However, after watching the Springfield Echelon review, I'm left wondering how those two compare.
the optic plates being more available and metal sights being standard...are fair complaints on the gun. the slide cuts on the pdp really would be a plus if youre dealing with adverse weather conditions vs a glock...not a plus on carry gun
Hello, I was going through the video a few times and read over the comments to see what kind of holster you’re running. Safariland?
I've been rocking the PPQ forever, the P99 was the first ever pistol I shot. Now I'm thinking I need this. Especially with that trigger. Mein Gott.
Canik Rival Taran Tactical is 900 bucks and will blow the Walther out of the water.
Too many good guns under $1000. It is impossible to have a definitive winner.
Satellite phones are illegal in some countries. If you take one through airport security in India, they will confiscate it.
Mike, thank you for your great content, and reputable take on products. However, I’m quitting this video early and heading over to mug club… after dropping a 👍🏼.
AAC 124g from Palmetto will run a comp with the factory spring out of the box with the PDP. Not sure if that would help with a suprressor. I do not know what they added to their ten herbs and spices but it was pretty hot stuff.
The PDP is the next evolution of the PPQ, not the P99.
It’s a direct lineage to the P99.
05:30 Bro, are you making this video in your sauna, or did you take too much preworkout this morning? I haven't seen hands that sweaty since I was barhopping in Thailand =D
If anyone is concerned about the recoil. Throw the springco recoil management rod in it and you’ll notice a difference. I also have an X300 light underneath and those two things together make it a dream to shoot, although I liked it from the beginning.
thanks for the report
Comes with a threaded barrel slap a comp on it and see if it likes it or not
I have this in the Compact version. I put on some Trijicon sights, Holosun SCS PDP and a ZR Tactical Stainless Steel GUide Rod with 15lb spring, and Herrington Arms Compensator. Love this gun, shoots great and very accurate. One thing I learned is do not shoot my Glock 47 after shooting this one.
It’s hard not to like this gun. I’ve owned the compact pro for 10 months or so and after 1500 rounds or so with a mixed bag of ammo I’ve had zero malfunctions. The trigger is phenomenal for a striker fired gun.
Really liked the PPQ due to the paddle mag release. In the end I moved away from it. Gave the PDP a try and really wanted to like it, but the beaver tail section is just way too wide for my hand. The PDP seems to be a great option though.
How does it compare to VP9 tactical please
Overall better in every way.
I love to shoot my PDP 5" compact. Yeah, it has a little muzzle rise as the slide cycles, but the design of the pistol brings it right back on target as the slide finishes cycling. Also, love the backward compatibility that the compact has with the PPQ M2 mags.
Man Walthers are my favorite guns. I carry a PPS M2 and I want to get a PDP for a training rig but I just wish there were more holster choices available for them.
PPS 1 &2 was probably the best subcompact on the market for a long time. The trigger could be better but it’s good for a striker, and much better than a Glock, lcp, or shield.
@@FxuckSoyboyspiesgoogleI expect Walther will release a new 1.5/2.0 stacked CCW gun in the next 18 months (that's their cycle, generally). The PPS M2 is the best shooting micro 9mm I've carried/fired...but it's definitely hamstrung with low single-stack capacity. I find myself carrying it more often simply because I shoot is vastly better than my other alternatives. The 7+1 hurts though (that's with Magguts in the basic 6-rounder).
@@oskar6661 Yeah the first one between walther and CZ to drop an optics ready P365 kind pistol will be getting my money
love Walther....picked up a Q5 steel frame, changed the trigger to the one here, and sprinco springs. Slick as butter. Walther makes an exceptional firearm.
FN509 tac #1, crazy you are advertising the sat phone, I use one for work and just now been looking at getting one for myself. Need it for backcountry dirtbike rides I do.
how would you compare it to the H&K VP9 tactical? vary similar on the paper.
I have the 5in with the compact grip and the normal trigger, personally I dont feel the snappiness alot of people mention. The only thing about it I may change is the upgrade to the pro trigger, but its not a priority as I personally dont mind the standard trigger. Personally I believe for an edc/ duty style firearm the pdp takes the cake over most any other option for the money. Fantastic pistol forsure
That thing below the front strap doesn’t look nearly as stupid with a mag well.
And some dare to call a Glock a blocky pistol. man this thing has a slide the size of a school bus
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@@Mrgunsngear 😄
Like the PDP midsize,best trigger, more recoil than Glock as you stated.
I ordered the 15lbs ZR tactical ss guide rod Should be perfect
Does the suppressor help with the recoil? I shoot the gun well but, just has a strange recoil impulse compared to all the Glocks I own. And does it get better the more rounds you shoot through it?
Love your reviews! You didn’t get into the second recoil spring (unless I missed it).
In the intro looks like the flashlight is turning on when shooting, but I’m not sure.
My wife and I each got one, Mike. We normally shoot Glocks and she shoots a CZ for competitions. I am 6’1, 250 bodybuilder. You aren’t kidding about how snappy this pistol is. It feels fantastic in the hand and I love the trigger, but the damn thing jumps when I shoot it. My wife was surprised and disappointed as well. We are going to sell these brand new guns.
Before you do that. I would recommend throwing a springco recoil management rod in before you count it out.
thanks for the report
@@Mrgunsngear - Yeah, man, I love your videos. I learn a lot from you. Just letting you know what we were thinking. I love this gun, other than that muzzle flip.
I want to like new guns but i always come back to glock too.
The guy that WON and the only successful person to handle shooting the T-Rex .577 cal rifle was a 5' 7" - 5' 8" guy that was probably about 175 - 185#.
I went through this whole video thinking it was a year or so old, until you mentioned the steel frame and the end. lmao
You always give honest and good reviews! That's why the viewers ask, lol
Glock hid when the walther came in. The PDQ is great as well.
One con is the threaded barrel protector comes hella loose.
I may have missed it but what is the thread pitch on the barrel?
I just bought this pdp a few days ago. I haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet but it feels great in the hands and the trigger is awesome.
Have bought two of these because I liked it so much. Compact then the full size. Carry in A PHlster Pro which is excellent (no surprise). Tenicor Velo 4 is also an outstanding option. I have and had a number of striker guns and this is easily my favorite. From my experience this gun and the VP9 are easily the most accurate striker guns I’ve shot no question.
thanks for the report
Every time I see that gigantic optic it reminds me of a mailbox. I’m sure that giant glass window is nice but wow it really jacks up the aesthetic of what’s a great looking firearm.
I thought the same thing… “jeezus, look at that mailbox”
Are those suppressor height sights for XS sights?
Minute man munitions has like no ammunition for sale lol
Purchased. Thank you for the email deal!
Most bang for the buck in its class.