Ranking Every Subclass Fragment in Destiny 2 for Endgame PvE
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- An interesting discussion on all 76 fragments ranked against each other in their final states before The Final Shape.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:08 Methodology
04:06 Echo of Cessation
04:46 Echo of Dilation
05:37 Echo of Domineering
07:28 Echo of Exchange
08:34 Echo of Expulsion
10:04 Echo of Harvest
11:07 Echo of Instability
12:18 Echo of Leeching
13:33 Echo of Obscurity
14:30 Echo of Persistence
15:12 Echo of Provision
16:15 Echo of Remnants
17:00 Echo of Reprisal
17:57 Echo of Starvation
19:18 Echo of Undermining
20:55 Echo of Vigilance
21:55 Ember of Ashes
22:50 Ember of Beams
23:38 Ember of Benevolence
24:42 Ember of Blistering
25:53 Ember of Char
26:36 Ember of Combustion
27:42 Ember of Empyrean
29:27 Ember of Eruption
30:32 Ember of Mercy
31:38 Ember of Resolve
33:26 Ember of Searing
34:45 Ember of Singeing
36:16 Ember of Solace
37:09 Ember of Tempering
38:21 Ember of Torches
39:13 Ember of Wonder
40:36 Spark of Amplitude
41:27 Spark of Beacons
42:32 Spark of Brilliance
43:47 Spark of Discharge
44:40 Spark of Feedback
45:39 Spark of Focus
46:59 Spark of Frequency
47:42 Spark of Haste
48:25 Spark of Instinct
49:25 Spark of Ions
50:13 Spark of Magnitude
51:04 Spark of Momentum
52:13 Spark of Recharge
53:13 Spark of Resistance
53:53 Spark of Shock
54:21 Spark of Volts
55:32 Thread of Ascent
57:08 Thread of Binding
58:04 Thread of Continuity
59:08 Thread of Evolution
1:00:01 Thread of Finality
1:00:59 Thread of Fury
1:02:09 Thread of Generation
1:03:13 Thread of Isolation
1:05:08 Thread of Mind
1:06:16 Thread of Propagation
1:07:51 Thread of Rebirth
1:08:50 Thread of Transmutation
1:10:43 Thread of Warding
1:12:14 Thread of Wisdom
1:13:11 Whisper of Bonds
1:14:02 Whisper of Chains
1:15:10 Whisper of Conduction
1:16:06 Whisper of Durance
1:16:48 Whisper of Fissures
1:18:15 Whisper of Fractures
1:19:45 Whisper of Hedrons
1:20:52 Whisper of Hunger
1:21:44 Whisper of Impetus
1:23:00 Whisper of Refraction
1:23:40 Whisper of Rending
1:24:29 Whisper of Rime
1:25:44 Whisper of Shards
1:26:50 Whisper of Torment
1:27:58 Outro - Ігри
Stasis fragments walked so every other subclass could run
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Lowkey aspects too
@@wood5596I feel like having shards be tied to aspects is still an L even after the buffs, imo they should tune them to be less dense on the battlefield but make them intrinsic, but it’s not too big a deal
this video makes me realize just how cool and unique the fragment icons look
You can really tell which is which when you see them all next to each other without any names
BUNGIE ICONOGRAPHY TEAM HAS BEEN ON TOP SINCE DAY 1 BBY PUT SOME RESPECT ON THEM 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
the solar ones all look the same to me but respect to whatever artist had to work with the prompt for "idk 16 different shapes of fire"
I watch so many guides and build videos and stuff but only aegis has ever made videos that inspire me to try things and sort of delve into the game for real, its like everyone else is selling me a sandwich but aegis is teaching me how to make cook. Awesome work as always GG
I like how you put that haha glad you enjoyed
the impetus slander smh
stasis hunter on their way to execute a dps phase against this take
@arjunbaweja7755 sadly luckypants is getting nerfed by the kinetic weapon dmg change coming in TFS
@@xRedacted_ its not the biggest nerf tbf, malf on a blighted target will still do more than pre nerf wardens law
@@xRedacted_ Isn't that only for special weapons? The actual nerf is the removal of boss spec iirc
Impetus sweep
Your in-depth analysis is so much more objective than other tier lists I see. I dont care what someone's favorite is "because good" - GG as usual Aegis.
what if someones favorite was objectively the best fragment?
pizza is objectively one of the best foods - do I care if you personally like it or not? nope.
@stonemason83 right on. If people ever start liking me because I use strong stuff, I'm going to have to figure out a different way to play.
Ember of Resolve... I knew it was coming and it still hurt. I haven't had it in any of my loadouts for awhile, but it still holds a special place in my heart. It was my crutch fragment for my pre-nerf starfire build and subsequently when I was getting a handle on the sunbracers/phoenix dive ability rotation, but eventually the training wheels had to come off.
love how ur uploads make like 90% of pve destiny youtubers obsolete, fav youtuber rn
HELL YEAH. I still watch a lot of youtubers, but aegis is THE dude if I really want an ACTUAL opinion.
Arc needs 1 fragment that just gives Ionic Traces the ability to HEAL you, and it would solve so many of Arc's problems. Make it require Amplified if they think that's too straightforward.
Bungie is willing to give literally every subclass other than arc an innate way to heal. Its mind boggling why they wont do it for arc. They say “arc is supposed to be the fast subclass.” But u cant run very fast if ur dead.
This. I also think Arc needs a new buff to provide an additional playstyle besides just melee. A new buff that doubles every Kinetic/Arc shot with a second to essentially double a weapons damage would be near.
@@RangerIVStrand has no healing outside of BoW, we only have Woven Mail (which is honestly enough)
@@Aohira6538 ya, and thats one of the highest DRs in the game right? If the exotic chest in TFS gives that much DR then arc hunter will be fine. But i doubt it will.
Arc need something like Mantacore, where you are hard to hit while you are amplified, because you're fast as f boiii
New Aegis video. One and a half hours. 🍿This will be a banger!
you and itz tizzle are some of my favourite destiny youtubers. keep it up!
As an Arc main, these results were honestly expected. Arc has a lot of passive abilities that really don’t add a whole lot to the gameplay loops of the subclasses. They definitely need to come back to these since even the new buffs may not be enough for Arc besides Spark of Beacons. Spark of Recharge buff may be somewhat useful but otherwise, the other fragments need some help
Thanks for taking a second to actually say what every fragment does. I play Destiny a good amount but I'm gonna be honest, I don't think I could tell you a single one and it's effect off the top of my head, LOL. If I had to pause the video to Google every fragment I'd be here all day haha
Up wake babe posted aegis
This guy needs more subscribers for how good he is at his content. Literally, every d2 player should reference aegis' videos if they care about optimization.
Brilliance jolts with Spark of Shock (as if the blinding explosion from Brilliance was miscoded as a flashbang). Havent tested it since LF but it def did.
Interesting interaction
I use these vids to fall asleep, soothing ass voice. I also use your videos to make all of my friends’ builds obsolete when I tell them it’s not good because I got my information from someone who does the dirty work like you. Thx Aegis
Keen to see where frost armor related fragments slot in with this next episode.
benevolence heal clip goes HARDDDDD
I’m really excited for prismatic fragments. Facet of courage is just focusing lens for yourself, and command could be great for reloading with something like silence and squall
new tier list letsgoo
My goat posted🙏
40 minutes in, not shocked at the density of top-tier Solar fragments. It's a big reason I tend to avoid Gunpowder Gamble--Knock 'Em Down enables it really well, so I'd want to run them together, but On Your Mark has three fragment slots which lets you take advantage of many of these effects at the same time. Really glad they buffed GPG to make that diff smaller, but still.
Thread of isolation is just better thread of transmutation.
Since the target you sever will unwind into a tangle. And generation is not restricted to when you have woven mail (which is going to be only 5s long from orbs in TFS, so somewhat rare on warlock/hunter)
Besides that, you also sever targets. Which is good on its own. And you dont even need to run a strand weapon, since isolation is on any rapid precision hits.
Yeah Isolation is pretty cool I learned about it very recently
Im seeing a few people bring up smaller interactions or different perspectives and aegis sometimes responds, noting it will be revisited in the next tier list. I wonder if he just has a notebook or excel sheet full a madmans ramblings of niche or small interactions he needs to keep track of lmao
Thanks for all the hard work Mr. Relic :)
:)
Thanks Aegis!
The heal clip benevolence combo is one of the most slept on things in the game rn
90 min of aegis ranking fragments 😍
Thread of fury is neat on nectrotic warlock to give melee Regen for more arcane needles giving sever to make a tangles to proc the wanderer, another option to keep suspend up longer
Yay new video
Looks like I’m edging to this for an hour and a half
“Only consistent sources of suppression are Tractor and Wavesplitter” SMH my head you forgot Ruinous Effigy, heavy attack suppresses enemies
Thats not a serious strat to aegis for him to remember😂
@@bl00dkillz cannot believe you are implying Ballin’ isn’t an optimal strategy in endgame content
Damn how could I forget...
(jokes aside I think we did actually find that out on stream before I made this video, and intentionally left it out haha)
Will the video about selecting double special weapons still be coming out? Really looking forward to it! Keep up the great work man!
It's kind of already out, I don't think I'll make another one besides activity loadout creation
Echo of Expulsion is for Titan builds that DON'T use Controlled Demo.
Fair enough
I was a little shaky on where to put Expulsion and next season I think I'll revisit it for sure
The only time I equip echo of dilation is for missions with a lot of vents where you are forced to crouch walk
I do it for stats on hunter for pve or pvp unless have another fragment id rather use over the stats
Interesting!
To be fair to ember of tempering, if you're just using Gally to insta-kill ads off of spawn in some non-boss encounter or during a GM, it does at least get one use that searing can't be used for that can be pretty common depending on how you play -- Except for in this season of course, as there is currently that one artifact mod.
Yeah Gjally is like the one exception that's good for add clear, relevant with Tempering, and doesn't scorch
Domineering super underrated for Orpheus Rigs gives ability energy and spamming suppressor nades + suppressor nades alone feel great paired with strong void like Buried Bloodline
*Nonetheless nice work gamer 👍
It's not bad but suppress easily has the worst uptime of the three Void Breach fragments and it doesn't really fit well into the vast majority of builds
You forgot one part of whisper of Shards, destroying a crystal during the six seconds increases the timer by an additional 5 seconds, capping at 10 seconds. Crazy op.
Yeah that's pretty strong
Ember of Beams only noticeably affects Daybreak, allegedly blade barrage is affected only if you're far enough away from the enemy which seems like it could definitely be a bungie moment.
beams definitely affects BB, but the tracking seems to not kick in unless you are a certain distance away or further, and so often it feels very inconsistent. I found this out the not so fun way when trying to solo flawless duality back in s17, and i was trying to blade barrage Ghalran with beams and it would miss more often that not bc i was too close
Damn, I did not realize benevolence gave a 4x multiplier. I assumed it was just maxing out your regen from stats, which since I run triple hundred builds most of the time doesn't matter. But that is for sure going on my builds now, especially with the new healing auto that's about to be glued to my warlock.
My goat aegis
Btw the severance enclosure threadling thing isnt based on the tier of enemy you defeat, but rather how many enemies your explosion kills. Severance Enclosure seems to deal "finisher damage" with its exolosions, qnd unlike other options the threadling fragment has no cooldown and provudes an effect that is improved with multiple kills.
Oh really? I swear the champ wasn't really surrounded when I finished it, but I could be mistaken, thanks for telling me
Babe wake up, the yapster posted
I think thread of transmutation can actually be harmful because it's very easy to make a tangle in a bad position and be forced to wait out the cooldown before you can make one where you intend
Great video, though I wish you had the fragment effect in text while discussing it.
I was considering it
cant wait to see aegis and the squad find some god combos for running tbh
another reason that spark of brilliance sucks is because blinded enemies usually cover their face, making it unnecessarily difficult to get a precision kill on them
I want to slap the Bungie employee who knowingly made this fragment. I think Beacons and Brilliance are mixed up from what they should be. One should be: while amplified arc weapon precision final blows make a blinding explosion. The other: special weapon final blows against blinded targets creates a blinding explosion.
Then each would be useful when amped or not instead if 1 turning indebted kindness into a stun gun and the other being so difficult to proc its useless.
Hahaha yeah that's true too
Do you plan on making some prismatic theoricraftig builds? Would like to hear your opinion on what might be good, that i might have missed.
Yeah but I have really limited time :(
Aight but when do we get the full aegis tierlist video tierlist?
@ATP
I know it's marginally off topic, but can we talk about the new prismatic fragments?
Facet of Command might be the backpack reload Titans have been looking for, depending on how possible it is to get suppression or freeze in a given loadout. I'm thinking Two-Tailed Fox (which suppresses when the void rocket hits) may be a solid choice--it already gets comparable total damage to BnS Apex, going by the spreadsheet, but the problem is how slow it is to dump. Having some number of automatic reload skips on it combined with the Hazardous Propulsion exotic to boost the total damage, on a rocket that already doesn't require Gjallarhorn, seems like it has a lot of potential. It depends a lot on the cooldown or stackability of the fragment, though. Warlocks can also cook something similar with Demo heavies (I have a Demo/BnS Cataphract that seems like it'll work) and Coldsnaps.
Yeah I'm getting a lot more hyped for Prismatic now seeing some of the new fragments and slot counts
@@TheAegisRelic I'm also very interested in Facet of Courage (targets with dark debuffs take more damage from your light abilities). All it takes is someone to throw an Arcane Needle at a boss (which is pretty easy, Mataidoxia looks very strong now that we know the full details) and you have the damage buff for the whole phase. Nighthawk hunters, TCrash/void axe titans, and Song of Flame/Slowva warlocks are all gonna pop off if the buff is substantial enough.
Finisher explosion fragment plus Stylish Executioner reduces the need for Cowl on Combination Blow prismatic hunter, maybe enabling the DR from the new Arc exotic if you're running the appropriate super, or Liar's Handshake, etc etc. Facet of Blessing is also health regen on melee final blows.
My brain can't keep up, there's so much wild stuff to mine here.
What are you talking about Aegis? I love Spark of Sugma
Ember of char should be s tier, spreading 40/60 scrotch on ignition basically means the enemies in that area is half way to ignitite, setting up for a chain ignition from there won't be hard. And what's solars best keyword? ignition and restoration.
Ignitions are definitely not better than Radiant/Restoration imo, the best solar builds in the game atm are largely not even focused on ignitions (besides artifact-boosted Polaris)
Where do you look at the builds you discussed? Is it a website with all of them listed?
They're in the endgame analysis spreadsheet atm
You r GOAT
Bruh bungie should have invited you to preview the final shape. Was seeing some of the UA-camrs with their dad loadout and I was like what if aegis was there and testing this out? Could have gotten a much more in depth analysis of transcendence and what not. Smh
They did not have a lot of time. So any in depth analysis would have been dumb to do and not even possible. Let's use our thinking skills, please
@@Mr-R.R. that’s a fair point but that was not what I was saying though. I’m saying most of the UA-camrs called are not really speedrunners and it would have been nice to see a speedrunner’s perspective on some of the new stuff
Oh yeah baby. This is what we came for
your audio made me think my headphones were dying lmao
Is it buggy anywhere?
Do you have a list or know of anything that gives a rough idea of what stats you want for exotics? I have Calibans in my vault for example but I have no idea what stats Id want besides mobility for dodge. Hell Im so out of the loop I don't even know what most builds want aspect wise outside of empyrean for solar or any of the major aspects.
Generally resil + disc but for some builds str is good
I liked the part where he called a particular void fragment null and void
1 F tier for each subclass but Arc. Brutal. Think this stems mostly from amplified not holding a candle to the other subclass buffs.
Would you consider making a Second chance Void titan build. I have been trying to coook something up but getting a bit lost on what fragments I want to use. I want to try and make a build work so I can use it to swap between with aeons and ursas as they are all exotic gauntlets
Yeah there's one in the works for TFS testing
what do you think are the top tier prismatic fragments to use?
I'll make a build video soon!
“Not because I love making tier lists” - spreadsheet daddy 2024
Could NOT successfully edge for 1:30:45, will try harder next time.
Mission failed we'll get em next time
actually the goat. what the fuck
I’ve been working on a Calibans hand build but I can’t decide on the fragments. I want all the ignition synergy but I feel like I lack the healing. Suggestions?
Also is on your mark even good with it? It feels like if the ignition goes off I don’t always get the knife back
I think the fragments I have on my listed Caliban's build are Torches, Eruption, Empyrean, Mercy, and Searing
If we had old hedrons back, maybe stasis wouldn't be entirely at the bottom
ok but when are we getting the tier list tier list
:3
@ATP
Aegis blessed me
Propagation works off grapple melee too
I lowkey forgot about that interaction, but I don't think that changes its placement
Off to reevaluate my post well nerf build ideas
Does Spark of Feedback work with Glaives?
Not sure, probably does?
Buried bloodline can access harvest constantly
Yeah it's pretty nice
Yippieeee!
Edit: bro said 1 hour 30
13:04 I see what you did there
Wait, im i crazy, or do Dark subclasses have 2 fewer fragments than Light subclasses and not 2 more.
watch first season of final shape its arc build artefact up the wazoo
46:00 plinking + hunkering down = plunkering down
Oh yeah
I believe the audio cuts out for about 10 seconds during echo of harvest.
edit: false alarm
On your end I believe, doesn't happen for me
@@TheAegisRelic Looks like you're right! I thought I'd tried it on multiple platforms but I must've missed something. Guess there was an issue w/ my YT download.
Aspect tier list when
:)
I really like domineering with wavesplitter. I think it deserves d tier
I'll try Wavesplitter builds next season and maybe move it if I feel they're very strong
@@TheAegisRelic i think gyrfalcons is the only one worth using and is only strong in very ad dense situations. But the fact that domineering combined with marskman dodge makes it so you never have to reload, and gives you extra mobility so you can dodge more often makes it very strong in this niche build
A tip is when you're talking about a fragment, you should put the description in text up so people know what it does.
Yeah I tried to do my best to explain but in the future I might do that instead
@TheAegisRelic I definitley know because I play a lot but probably easier to decipher for newer ish guardians. Great work and great work recently tho you killing it man. Our clan always jokes "but what does aegis say" lmao
Arc makes me so sad... praying for (Arc)tifact 😔
This really shines a light on why I HATE arc so much. It needs some major love.
my simplest idea is that jolt can hit allied guardians to heal them for a small amount. would help a lot in one of the areas arc needs it most, and also very flavorful (think AEDs)
@life-destiny1196 what if jolt broke enemy targeting
@@ChewiestDemondThat’s what blind is for
@115zombies935 i was thinking more of a super short-term stun than blind would be cool.
My opinion dropped!
Hopefully by the time I’m done watching this video in its entirety the game will be done with maintenance
Impetus in D tier is kinda crazy
I mean, it’s only useful in one hyper specific dps loadout that also uses a class that has some of the worst neutral game in Destiny.
Yeah he gets it
half of F tier being arc fragments and S tier having 0 arc or stasis fragments says everything
Did you say echo of leeching is....null and....void?
:)
bungie sees this and they will nerf S tier, but what they should do is buff any PvE fragments in the D,E,F tier up 1-2 tiers
the fact that they nerfed arc by gutting the assasins cowl combination blow build has me scratching my head
when/how did they gut that build? idk what you’re referring to but that build works fine still
@@asaabed4200Knockout and Combination Blow can only activate it when you actually expend the melee charge.
It wasn't super gutted just made a bit less consistent but yeah
Damn feel arc is a little low. Was running some endgame the other day and and did the best out of my team whilst on arc
You had bad teammates then
That sounds more of a problem with your team.
This is arc fragments not necessarily subclasses but yeah arc is still pretty weak overall
Impetus clears
Okay this is just a little bit silly
:D
How much is needlestorm damage impacted by thread of evolution? Asking since prismatic doesn’t seem to have a thread of evolution equivalent fragment, at least as of yet since they havent all been revealed.
I have an older video where I talk about this but I believe it's somewhere in the 1X% ballpark
@@TheAegisRelicit doesn’t change the damage of the needles/needle detonations themselves though, right? Just increases the total damage cuz of the threadlings?
Only 13 seconds, but I better see Whisper Of Impetus at S tier.
Hohoho
Free aegis he pumping out too much juice!!!!
Very niche and specific use are almost the same thing… no?
Specific use is stuff I would classify as being still useful, but in specific scenarios/builds
Very niche is stuff that I would almost never use, even in the scenarios that theoretically synergize with said options
Hey ! Stop the domineering slander ! It gave Two-Tailed Fox clown cartridge from back it was remotely usable !
I mentioned that, doesn't change its placement :)
I really don't know how some of these fragments got through playtesting, they are so bad...
13:45 "hunter on void used to be the sole provider of invisibility"
Rat king: Am I a joke to you? :333
True true
@@TheAegisRelic Can you tell how much I love Rat King? xDDD