Ranking Every Relevant Damage Rotation Before The Final Shape
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- No ingame audio because I was playing very copyrightable music during stream, but I hope you guys like seeing the result of one week of Templar sessions!
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:36 Retrofit Escapade
02:46 Thunderlord
03:30 Cataclysmic
04:26 The Lament
05:01 Double pellet Gjally
05:35 Briar's Contempt
06:17 One Thousand Voices
06:47 Leviathan's Breath
07:17 Whisper of the Worm
07:56 Double pellet Parasite
08:28 Wither 140 Deconstruct Edge
09:00 Double slug Tractor
09:35 Izi 140 Deconstruct Edge
10:08 Izi GL Apex Apotheosis
10:39 Verity's Apex
11:19 Izi GL Apex Dragon's
11:48 Izi GL Apex RoF
12:14 Legend of Acrius
12:45 Izi GL Apex Foetracer
13:17 Wither Cartesian Apex
13:42 Izi 140 BnS Edge
14:02 Envious Edge
14:27 Malfeasance Edge
15:04 Double slug Apex
15:29 Lumina Cold Comfort
15:55 Wither 140 BnS Edge
16:16 Warden's Edge
16:51 Surrounded Koraxis
17:17 Izi Nessa Edge Nighthawk
17:46 Izi GL Apex Necrotic
18:10 Izi Nessa Edge Necrotic
18:38 Supremacy Edge
19:01 Izi Cold Comfort
19:20 Syntho grapple melees
20:07 Horseman Surrounded Crux
20:32 Horseman Overture Edge
20:50 Horseman Impetus Edge
21:12 Horseman Parasite Edge
21:28 Wormgod grapple melees
22:03 Outro - Ігри
Some of the images are incorrect in some of these rotations - I'm sure you guys can tell which, but just in case, all the correct loadouts are in fact in the Ranking tab if you need to confirm a piece of equipment :)
Also, a lot of people asking for this: github.com/A2TC-YT/Destiny-Damage-Tracker
pls make a vid about Izi Nessa Edge Necrotic cuz idk what rolls u have on the weapons
Recon vorpal Nessa, cascade bns edge. The common theme here is Cascade bns edge
How do you know that 🤔
Do you need lunas for any bosses to use horseman? Or is it usually fine
@@Rudeuslul recon we know from the mag size, vorpal is the only fourth column perk that really makes sense for this use. cascade point and bait and switch are both visible in the buff ui during the phase
"Horseman Impetus Edge" Is the kinda thing those pills at gas stations are called. Hopefully these damage rotations will give me the same results.
Bull shark horseman impetus edge testosterone pills
@@TheAegisRelicah my favorite
If you want large amounts of pain, I'm sure it's going to be great
Absolutely, and Izi GL Apex sounds like the dankest dank you've ever danked
That's what I call big dick damage
Horseman surrounded crux:
Aka kicked from lfg any%
You are not procing surrounded in LFG 😢
@@thecanadiankiwibirb4512most skill issued perk in the whole game fr
Gonna instruct my little league raid team like a college professor with this
My Little League raid team gonna make monkey noises and stick with their sticks and rocks wtf.
TL:DR
Hunters:
For total damage, use the chicken rotation
For dps with a splash of total, use the horseman impetus edge
For raw burst use the parasite horseman dump
Titans:
Hehe punch
Warlocks:
If not well, izi nessa edge necrotic will be your friend
If well use wither 140 bns edge with rain of fire
(if "hehe punch" gets nerfed, just do izi nessa edge like a warlock, per other comments on this page)
Nessa perks?
@@y_strikes2770 iirc recon + vorpal and then assault mag
Why not Verity’s Apex? That had the highest total damage.
@@willphelps40it's slow and very few phases last that long to get all the damage from a rotation
I'm really happy to see that this video out of all of them all is getting algo'd. The wider community needs to understand what real DPS looks like and I hope a few of them have their eyes opened.
Great video, even if "Horseman Impetus Edge" sounds like a hardcore Friday night alone lmfao
:)
I absolutely love it when some proper players show actual dps rotations instead of just firing a weapon on its own. Too many players get caught up with a singular best heavy weapon they forget that it only is one part of a greater whole.
I commend your valiant effort in the face of Aztecross machine gun dps videos with 800k total damage topping the charts
and we love cross for that
But they don’t block tp in those videos so doesn’t it make sense for totals to be so much lower?
@@zachcate7102 youre right, but he still doesnt use perks properly and realistically so it still isnt a good showcase of a weapons capabilities. i.e. he uses bait and switch weapons and keeps shooting after bns runs out, only uses cascade point once per weapon, doesnt pick up more orbs for explosive light etc.
Massive respect for the time it took to test all this and get the data into an extremely easily read format. Thanks aegis!
Sending this to my friends so all of this information can go in one ear out the other
im really curious to see if prismatic replaces certain subclasses for damage rotations. like prismatic hunter has access to goldie so it can do nighthawk swaps, and prismatic warlock has access to needlestorm etc.
assuming grapple melee doesn’t get completely gutted combination blow might work with it as well
Ya though I see warlocks doing more verity spam if prismatic on variety is just what your super is
especially once we get stareater scales on all classes with the class armor
aaaand grapple resets gutted
@@DanielMorales-jm3llnot really, if ur fast enough the nerf may as well not be there. The one two punch thing will hurt though
@@wood5596 it was gutted.
Been waiting for you to drop another dps rotation video 🔥🔥 me and the boys just been living in the spreadsheet the last few weeks
Whats the roll to go for on nessas for the izi nessa edge necrotic rotation?
also how much worse is envious/bns compared to cascade/bns on edge transit? My best roll is envious/bns, am i cooked?
Anything with Vorpal, Env BnS is fine but not very high DPS
This is very helpful, thanks for spending the time on making this.
You're a legend. Been waiting for something like this for a long time. Your service is appreciated!
This is absolutely incredible and i trully trully appreciate the effort you put into this. Subbed.
most informative content in the community. another great video eggis
I was waiting to see Chickens damage rotations and I’m glad they’re so high up
Thanks for this list. Amazing how Deeps change over time.
Nice video. Thanks for all the work. I'm so glad Chicken is getting the recognition he deserves
Underrated asf. Your video quality is exceptionally high. A true endgame endGAMER
The depth of these vids is insane. Was looking for whether I should continue using wither or Izzy rotations on my strand lock but after seeing this vid I’ll probably be running lumina cold comfort for final shape raid.
Legit the only channel i have the bell on for. Quality stuff.
No way I watched this whole video just to have Excluded hit the griddy on us in the last 30 seconds
Its so funny how PUNCHING is just so effective in this game
From what I remember, it's even lore accurate in some way xD
Horseman impetus edge looks like a lot of fun.
Cheers for sharing that one in particular Aegis.
Hey man can I say how awesome your vids are? Please keep it up I just found your channel in the past week and you've been more helpfull/informative than the vast majority of Dyoutubers
Glad you're enjoying!
praying bungie gives titan a reload exoitc, since after grapple melee nerf well be stuck with standart dps swapping rotations :(
Rocket grapple nerf?
@@carnage9536 most people are assuming the grapple melee rotations at the end of this video are getting gutted in some way. (me personally, I'd rather they be, like, Lucky Pants tier, rather than dead entirely, but who knows.)
@@life-destiny1196 ah ok, I thought they meant there were confirmed nerfs
@@carnage9536 right now, we only have the gun tuning from last Wednesday, and a promise for more information on abilities and exotics this coming Wednesday. so I guess we'll know what's actually going on then
Synthoceps give reload?
Thanks for uploading! This is great!
wow this is an epic research project, thank you so much.
i look forward to ur videos big time thanks for helping me optimize
Great work as always!
The follow through is invredible!
Your hard work to provide us this information is extremely appreciated, would you ever consider doing an episode of the podcast, Podcast Versus Enemies, on Destiny Massive Breakdowns?
I feel like your styles mesh extremely well!
I'm not super familiar with that podcast in particular but I'm in the DMB server from time to time so that sounds interesting
Commenting for the algorithm. Another absolute banger, thank you for making this!
Thank you so much for all the resources, you've put out so much info already but other vids I would def be interested in:
Recommended loadouts/rotations where you have sacrificed a weapon slot for add clear/objectives. I'm, mostly a solo joining pugs or pulling more casual friends and I don't think I'm personally good enough to be doing loadout swaps AND generating enough ammo and super for something like izi/shotgun or witherhoard/sniper WHILE ALSO trying to carry objectives when the groups I play with are extremely random.
Recommended loadouts split by either particular fights or DPS lengths, ie:
- Recs for generic 15-30s damage dump (atheon, rhulk, captain avarokk)
- recs for staggered damage phases (caretaker, planets, taniks, golgoroth)
- Close Range / Long range / No Precision vs Precision Multiplier fights / Wizard floating in the sky swinging back and forth
Total Damage recs when you need to carry a fireteam & PUG recs for what you would bring when you either need to carry underperforming members with total damage or what you would bring to a group who might be missing support or debuff options.
I can and do cobble stuff together based on what you've made for everyones vs what I'm comfortable doing myself, but I also just enjoy watching videos on these topics.
thanks again d( '.' )b
You are the goat of destiny stats!
Hey Aegis, this is absolutely HUGE! Is there a way for us to see the rolls you're using on certain weapons in the spreadsheet? Or am I blind 😵💫
The grapple melee rotations look so satisfying
You absolutely love to see it
120k views already. Aegis popping off
words cannot describe how surprised i am that wormgod grapple melee topped the charts /s
For us visual learners, this was a great video. Thx 4 the extra effort
Supercluster about to have a glow up in TFS since it can get Surrounded or Vorpal with Reconstruction
Eh not really it's still a slug
Ngl aegis putting the most effort I’ve seen into destiny rn bro deserves more subs
Great video and thank you
Much appreciated 🙏
Brilliant video
aegis is the freaking 🐐 man
Having both loadouts being on there is such a great additive and qol
The crux rotation was fun to watch on stream lol
baby wake up Aegis dropped another vid
This is really cool. I'm sure you'll tighten this up, but it's effective. I didn't know about the witherhoard, cartesion, apex rota and it was really helpful for some farming. Simple but effective. Need to rework some of my others here.
Thanks for the video dude!
Personally i love foetracer, horseman with goldtusk.
Love it for sword damage 👌
How are you getting nade energy back that fast on the necrotic rotations in order to reload from the grapple multiple times?
strand fragment
Generation + instant grapple cancel
CHICKEN SI-2 MENTIONED 🗣🗣🗣
why isn't UA-cam suggesting your content??? was searching for a video like this for ages.
I like these type of videos, and appreciate the amount of work you put into them, you would consider trying a stasis hunter with wardens law, devils ruin and I’ve been using cascade bns edge transit, with a solar holster mod on, started using devils ruin as a back up for when had no special ammo to keep a rotation going
Idk about Devil's Ruin
Hello, love your channel a ton, very interesting content and thankful for your interesting analysis and insight on destiny with such a technical pov in pve. Tho I am very curious in the last clip presented with speedruning Kings fall, to be precise the part where you(titan) use its class unique glaive and set up a mini-bubble in a location, could you please explain if there's a certain gimmick involved in doing that, or its purely for players to stack without danger ?
It's a 5% buff that stacks with everything and I'm not doing damage anyways
great videos so much information appreciate all the work you put in to this. with the deconstruct nerf what's the next best edge rolls cascade and bait ? or envious and bait ? thank you
Can go for both
This is definitely one of the most unique meta’s we’ve been in with the best options being HEAVILY dependent on the boss encounter with regards to range and boss movement.
Also deconstruct has INSANE total damage for a spike edge GL giving it about 60% more total damage. (Mag dependent 4 mag gives 75% and 6 mag giving 60%). Unfortunately bungo is nerfing its ability to get ammo from thin air next season so its not even worth testing anymore
Thank mr.ageis
"Their favorite child" LOL
Guess who’s back, back again, Horseman’s back, tell a friend.
Wow what perfect timing
gonna link this vid to all the thunderlord and retrofit defenders
I mean there’s still nothing wrong with using Thunderlord or Retrofit, just because better options exist doesn’t mean its bad, 99% of content in this game does not need these crazy Doom Eternal-ass weapon combos that very few people even know about
I very much look forward to your investigation to the machinegun damage issue. Retrofit's dps seems much lower here than in your old spreadsheet.
I knew it that strand Titan was gonna be in here, it’s like the best Titan dps thing you can do
I do have a logistical question, how do you run double special? swap to double special loadout right before damage? having ammo laying around?
Video coming very soon on this
my king
Whats the deal with Nessa all of a sudden? I always thought it was a pretty meh shotgun, and you gave it a C on your tier list a while back. Did it get a major buff or something? Or is it purely for void matching with Edge Transit?
It matches void and the crit lets you proc cascade
It's not a great shotgun it just happens to fit the job description here
Ah I didn't even think about proccing cascade with it, thank you!
I think a lot of us would really appreciate the Day 1 video as a top priority to give teams time for practice and such
Great video, do you think a chill clip autoloading lingering dread would be a good alternative to mountain top for the edge transit/horseman rotation? Just to keep the slow more consistent
Eh not really
aegis my beloved
Hey guys a stupid question here. The strand warlock rocket/gl build, why necrotic grip? It doesn’t seem to have any good function?
poison adds a bit of extra damage and no other exotics really do anything for grapple rotationd
Is this highest DPS damage rotation a Well-lock can run Izi 140 edge? I assume Icarus CD is too long for horseman impetus edge right?
I'm going to try RoF Horseman Edge next season
It will be interesting to see now that gls are the default , it frees up the potential for alot more funny non stackable dps options. Most notably dragon's breath. It will be intersting to see dragon's breath in a real rotation to see if is at all viable for even just a single person to use compared to the other stuff. (like double slug or double pellet)
A build I used to use was witherhoard special gl and cold comfort(envious bait) with strand and rain of fire for pure rocket spam.
YES ITS HERE
two questions, when you swap to dps loadouts, what makes ammo go to zero or very low? is it swapping from primary to special? how to avoid it? and also idk why Impetus is super iffy for me. barely reloads my weapons when I use it. i know there's a cooldown but it still seems to almost never work
Primary to special
I was actually so curious to see them done in game, if you don't mind me asking, what are your recommendations for pantheon this upcoming tuesday? It will be 20 under with so many different bosses, what loadouts do you think would work best for getting the optimal damage to make plat time?
Heavily depends on surge
@@TheAegisRelic I was under the assumption it would loop back around to void again
Probably edging then
“Me n Mars kissing is the aegis dps testing”
Hello dr aegis, thoughts on a braytech osprey with impact casing, field prep and envious in first column + bipod in second?
Good for GMs
i havent used a slug shotgun in a while, but do rotations using those generally require a lunafaction to boost range?
and if too far of a boss, what general loadout would you recommend?
Yes, you can use a 140 sniper instead to proc Cascade
How are you swapping exotic armor mid damage without using in game preset build? Is it through DIM? I’ve only just recently got into raiding, looking for any help.
Loadout swaps
new ranking video letsgooo
great info. ty
Hello Sir,
I was messing around with the Graphing data, however, for Malfeasance Edge, at 3.187s the total damage is lower than that of 3.125s, same phenomena happened multiple times for Malfeasance Edge column, and once for Legend of Acrius, are those inherent bug that the game shows wrong damage or wrong data get filled in the rows?
Just a detection bug from DDT
You're the best!
my goat
Aegis, what is giving you the large "chunk" of grenade energy when doing the Izzy Nessa Edge rotation? After grappling, your grenade seems to go instantly back to about 40%, doesn't seem to be a kickstart mod since you retain armor charges and I can't figure out what would be causing that.
Insta canceling grapple refunds some of its energy
Pretty sure I don't have the hand eye coordination for some of these, but the whole breakdown is really cool.
Additionally, I noticed that Magnificent Howl can stack with the boost from Lucky Pants, and due to the way the perk activation works where it triggers on a full reload, you can... "engineer" a situation where you have a full stack of 10 Mag Howl bullets pretty consistently via reloader mods.
Maybe if we get the perk on a kinetic weapon in the future, it might be worth attempting over Warden's Law? (as is, it's still stupid-good as a boost to a solar hunter rotation)
Not worth, simulated it earlier at ITL release, not a bad idea though
@@TheAegisRelic Yeah, it requires maybe too much setup to make it work, but for a 140, it's fun enough to use with Solar Surge right now.
Why not wild style over wilderflight when pairing with a solar heavy? I know damage perks suck but would it not be more worthwhile matching surges for 22% compared to the 15 of vorpal/frenzy?
Auto loading holster
Technically better with Envious but I don't have one and it's not that big
@@TheAegisRelic yeah fairs, I grinded for that envious roll for it only to be made near useless with edge transit coming out
@@TheOnlyBritishGuy im down bad for a solar gl that isn't ass
@@gavinlambert2896 might need to keep looking sadly, mate
In your Verity's Apex clip, how are you getting your fusion grenades back so quickly? Is there a second Warlock with Verity's recharging it?
Teammate with Feel :P
Was nice to see the horseman in gameplay for a change.
GOATED
The conclusso rotation reigns supreme
The goat
really curious when and how to swap to these dps build in raid situation while some of them are hard to do the ad clear
Thanks, was looking forward to this. When you look at things again next would you include a Dragon's Breath rotation. I know it doesn't scale well into group content but I'm curious how things like Dragon's Breath with warden's law or Dragon's Breath with supremacy compare to these.
I tried some and they were bad but I'll try harder with making them next season
Is there any reason to use Ikelos (other than it´s crafteable/enhanceabled) over others shotguns for 1-2 punch?
Depends what other shotguns you're talking about but I think most people agree it strikes the best balance of ammo, accessibility, and perks
@@TheAegisRelic I was just wondering because I have seen many ppl using it and may be it was for something I didn´t know, thanks for the answer
ty a lot!